GAME-SET-and-MATCH!

[shipoffools]

Just Watched Matt Williams interviewed for 'On The Edge'

(A Topical alternative chat show featuring guests who discuss the alternative viewpoint.)

(Edge Media Television is broadcast in the UK on the Sky platform, Channel 200 from 6am until 10pm.)

And can`t find any link to the show online as yet - but, this really was
GAME, SET and MATCH as far as crop circles go.

[spock]

this fella?
Matthew Williams Interview Promo - YouTube

[jamesc]

Just Watched Matt Williams interviewed for 'On The Edge'

(A Topical alternative chat show featuring guests who discuss the alternative viewpoint.)

(Edge Media Television is broadcast in the UK on the Sky platform, Channel 200 from 6am until 10pm.)

And can`t find any link to the show online as yet - but, this really was
GAME, SET and MATCH as far as crop circles go.

What is game set and match for crop formations ,is he claiming that he or others can reproduce complicated formations or are responsible for them ALL.:rolleyes::rolleyes::cool:

[spock]

What is game set and match for crop formations ,is he claiming that he or others can reproduce complicated formations or are responsible for them ALL.:rolleyes::rolleyes::cool:

I haven't seen the vid the op mentioned.
but he seems to be making crops circles and recons he sees dark figures when he makes them.


so game set and match prob means that he (mr williams) has admited making some with friends.
the obvious man made ones like the giant Y-fronts.
no one has taken credit for the massive complex ones tho so i think it's more of "double fault" than "game set and match"

[jamesc]

Fake Crop Circle Exposed
17-Jul-2009

Update - http://www.unknowncountry.com/img/news/062009/natgeo-1.jpg

Nat Geo fake circle. Nancy Talbot of the BLT Research Team has announced that the National Geographic has refused to affirm that it will provide an unbiased approach to the crop circle phenomenon in its upcoming documentary. The National Geographic has had a documentary crew in the fields of England this summer, apparently attempting to prove that crop formations are manmade by commissioning one or more to be made by artists. Researchers entering the circle pictured above, which was commissioned by the National Geographic and is, indeed, manmade, were immediately aware of the fact that the lay of the plants was shoddy and the plants themselves were full of clear evidence of mechanical manipulation. This crop circle season has exhibited many extraordinary formations, but because crop formations in southern England have become such a tourist attraction, researchers are now having difficulty getting into them before the crowds, to get a good idea of whether or not the lay is genuine.
http://www.unknowncountry.com/img/news/072009/rapeseed-1.jpg
Authentic unknown. Above formation. Early in the season, though, it was much easier, and an example of a formation that is almost certainly anomalous is the "flaring sun" formation that appeared in a field of blooming rapeseed on April 23. Researchers, including Lucy Pringle, were able to reach the formation without any disturbance from tourists, and the only marks in it come from their movements. This crop would be all but impossible to create a formation in using conventional techniques, because the stems are so tough and brittle. Like a number of other formations, this one has been related by researchers to possible intense solar activity in the future. At present, there is no evidence that any such activity will take place, and solar scientists are not able to predict solar activity with more than a few days accuracy.

In June when a formation appeared at Mill Hill representing a Phoenix and pointing in the direction of sunset on July 7, many researchers incorrectly predicted that there would be a solar event that day. In fact, there was a substantial one on July 4, which faded away on the 7th, disappearing at about the time the sun set in England. While the formation was being laid down on June 12, a meeting of solar scientists was taking place in Denver asking the question: is the sun going into hibernation? The only suggestion that this might not be the case seemed connected to this formation. There are many proficient hoaxers in the fields of England. Crop formations have become a valuable tourist industry. But the hoaxed formations can usually still be detected if researchers have time to enter them before the inevitable stampede. Nevertheless, as the National Geographic formation reveals, many of the hoaxed articles are obvious to a trained eye.

There are lots of "fakes" out there, spewing out false news and drumming up hysteria.
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=7710
Photos copyright Lucy Pringle

[jamesc]

I haven't seen the vid the op mentioned.
but he seems to be making crops circles and recons he sees dark figures when he makes them.


so game set and match prob means that he (mr williams) has admited making some with friends.
the obvious man made ones like the giant Y-fronts.
no one has taken credit for the massive complex ones tho so i think it's more of "double fault" than "game set and match"

Yes i wonder why no one has claimed responsibilities for the massive complex ones. Is it because they know if they were asked to replicate these ones and they had the permission to do so THEY COULD NOT DO IT.Gven the facts that that there are formations showing abnormalities in the crops and earth in side these formations also signs of possible high heat or microwave/radiation IS IT ANY WONDER THEY REMAIN SILENT ON THESE COMPLICATED FORMATIONS.Also the formations that show no signs of trampling or evidence of human origins and the ones that have appeared in fields with no TRAM LINES for easy access in and out of the fields.

[shipoffools]

Well - That didn`t take long...

You could at least wait until you have seen the prog. before protesting - me thinks - TOO much.

[spock]

Well - That didn`t take long...

You could at least wait until you have seen the prog. before protesting - me thinks - TOO much.


well find it for us then.................coz i canny find it.

[jamesc]

Well - That didn`t take long...

You could at least wait until you have seen the prog. before protesting - me thinks - TOO much.

" Nancy Talbot of the BLT Research Team has announced that the National Geographic has refused to affirm that it will provide an unbiased approach to the crop circle phenomenon in its upcoming documentary. The National Geographic has had a documentary crew in the fields of England this summer, apparently attempting to prove that crop formations are manmade by commissioning one or more to be made by artists.:rolleyes: Researchers entering the circle pictured above, which was commissioned by the National Geographic and is, indeed, manmade, were immediately aware of the fact that the lay of the plants was shoddy and the plants themselves were full of clear evidence of mechanical manipulation.";):cool:

Watch Edge TV ALL THE TIME when its on or i record programmes that i am interested in, did see the first parts but got board of his apparent bull shit.The above seems to sum him up and dudes like him.:D

[shipoffools]

Watch Edge TV ALL THE TIME when its on or i record programmes that i am interested in, did see the first parts but got board of his apparent bull shit.The above seems to sum him up and dudes like him.:D

Says it all and proves a point. Listen to yourself.

[jamesc]

Says it all and proves a point. Listen to yourself.

Could you expand on what point it proves and your subliminal message of reiteration of" listen to your self " is not really working.:D

[shipoffools]

You need to stop ranting, then take a step back, then look at your constant posting, then take a good look at yourself.

It`s never a bad thing every now and again to just step back and take a look at how others may view your stuff.

You may be losing any credibility you could get for your own personal point of view by dismissing any other points outright and cherry picking what suits your personal crusade best...

[jamesc]

You need to stop ranting, then take a step back, then look at your constant posting, then take a good look at yourself.

It`s never a bad thing every now and again to just step back and take a look at how others may view your stuff.

You may be losing any credibility you could get for your own personal point of view by dismissing any other points outright and cherry picking what suits your personal crusade best...

Why are you constantly avoiding questions with attacks on my credibility?? What evidence do you have to support that i am cheery picking?What is your substance of your constant posting of certain material without your own personal views or WHY you have posted this information?? Please explain and highlight what other points i am dismissing out right??I have over the years looked at both arguments on what the origins could be for genuine formations and have the view that not all are man made, simple as that i am afraid.Please do not be concerned for how other people will view me and try and concentrate on how you could be coming across in your reluctance to answer questions on your views on the following.

1.What is your conclusions or views on the origins of complicated formations and what origins could be responsible.:confused:
2 Why did you start a thread titled "Crop circles,game set and match", then fail to provide enough proof or information to back this claim up.:confused:
3.In view of the lack off any material from serious and experience researchers like Colin Andrews and people like him who have shown that not ALL formations can be easily explained away as man made in origin , do you not think that that can seriously damage or effect any credibility that you have or are seeking.To be taken seriously is not a process of carelessness.
3.Do you realise that by ignoring the findings of people like Andrews ect can be seen as cherry picking by you??
Relax and step back from the fraudsters and charlatans, for not all us are fooled by them but only those who want to see it that way are fooled.:D

[polestar]

Not another thread ruined by constant point scoring...tut tut:(

[shipoffools]

When and if you get to see the 'On the edge' interview, you (well not you, clearly) might realise why it is 'game-set &-match'.

Until then, you can pull down the shutters for a bit longer.

[spock]

dude....you got to do better than that.
no evidence, just a bit of name calling.....not even a link to a vid?
so forgive me if i don't take your word for it it.

prove it was game set and match. i really want you to.
tell me why you rate this man. what he knows. which circles he made. why croppies are dying.
who the men in black are, and who is doing the circles that they are not.

if you can't answer me, fine, but don't attack someone else in frustration..

[shipoffools]

dude....you got to do better than that.
no evidence, just a bit of name calling.....not even a link to a vid?
so forgive me if i don't take your word for it it.

prove it was game set and match. i really want you to.
tell me why you rate this man. what he knows. which circles he made. why croppies are dying.
who the men in black are, and who is doing the circles that they are not.

if you can't answer me, fine, but don't attack someone else in frustration..

What? - ME attack?

Can`t find a link yet, when I do I will post it. I don`t believe I attacked anyone - The other way round if you ask me. Anyway, you don`t have to take my word for anything at all. Unlike some people, I couldn`t give a flying fuck what you or anyone else thinks about my opinions. I am not trying to persuade anyone of anything. I think though that having watched this prog - it seemed game set and match to me. You can decide what you think if you get to see it can`t you. (although, one thing I am sure of is that some people will have made up their mind on the prog. before having seen it)

Good Day

[jamesc]

What? - ME attack?

Can`t find a link yet, when I do I will post it. I don`t believe I attacked anyone - The other way round if you ask me. Anyway, you don`t have to take my word for anything at all. Unlike some people, I couldn`t give a flying fuck what you or anyone else thinks about my opinions. I am not trying to persuade anyone of anything. I think though that having watched this prog - it seemed game set and match to me. You can decide what you think if you get to see it can`t you. (although, one thing I am sure of is that some people will have made up their mind on the prog. before having seen it)

Good Day



That is the point is it not , you do not give a fuck about evidence that points to the exact opposite of what your are claiming in this video .You have not even got a link for this and yet expect people to just except it without proper debate and fair interactions of information.The reason i did not watch all of it was because of the sheer stupidity of these men trying to claim responsibility of ALL formations.Are you seriously claiming that these men can produce elongated node stems in these formations.:eek::rolleyes: If you are is it any wonder that with that absurd claim and your complete lack of evidence to back that up you feel that people are making judgements on this film before they watch it.April fools day is a long way off don't you think.;):cool:


I suggest that you watch this and then explain or post proof that these people can create ELONGATED nodes in these formations and leave traces of radiation

http://www.youtube.com/v/-MLvq73TX94


"The producers also interviewed physicist Dr. Eltjo Haselhoff of the Netherlands. Dr. Haselhoff offers scientific proof that at least some crop circles are indeed formed by balls of light. His research and evidence was even accepted after peer review for the internationally recognized scientific journal, Physiologia Plantarum".;) http://goldenagetoday.com/departments/paranormal/78-lifting-of-the-veil-crop-circles/458-witness-illuminated-object-created-crop-circle


http://goldenagetoday.com/departments/paranormal/35-paranormal-events/95-lightcreatescropcircle

[shipoffools]

That is the point is it not , you do not give a fuck about evidence that points to the exact opposite of what your are claiming in this video .You have not even got a link for this and yet expect people to just except it without proper debate and fair interactions of information.The reason i did not watch all of it was because of the sheer stupidity of these men trying to claim responsibility of ALL formations.Are you seriously claiming that these men can produce elongated node stems in these formations.:eek::rolleyes: If you are is it any wonder that with that absurd claim and your complete lack of evidence to back that up you feel that people are making judgements on this film before they watch it.April fools day is a long way off don't you think.;):cool:


I suggest that you watch this and then explain or post proof that these people can create ELONGATED nodes in these formations and leave traces of radiation

http://www.youtube.com/v/-MLvq73TX94


"The producers also interviewed physicist Dr. Eltjo Haselhoff of the Netherlands. Dr. Haselhoff offers scientific proof that at least some crop circles are indeed formed by balls of light. His research and evidence was even accepted after peer review for the internationally recognized scientific journal, Physiologia Plantarum".;) http://goldenagetoday.com/departments/paranormal/78-lifting-of-the-veil-crop-circles/458-witness-illuminated-object-created-crop-circle


http://goldenagetoday.com/departments/paranormal/35-paranormal-events/95-lightcreatescropcircle

You trust a man with a haircut like haselhoff ?

[cruise4]

The elongations also differ in length from inside to outside some circles. In other words there is a graduation to the elongation. Acording to this guy anyway...

http://goldenagetoday.com/departments/paranormal/35-paranormal-events/95-lightcreatescropcircle

[shipoffools]

The elongations also differ in length from inside to outside some circles. In other words there is a graduation to the elongation. Acording to this guy anyway...

http://goldenagetoday.com/departments/paranormal/35-paranormal-events/95-lightcreatescropcircle

There seems to be some evidence to support the BALLS theory