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[nihil]

The Secret Societies section of Icke's forum is full of useless threads as:

expose your lodge - how to join a lodge - lodges here and there

I think masons should head to their own forums or should create one, if not still existing...

I find these threads boring and just a sort of spamming, so asked in here
...but I got an elitarian reply.

What do you think? It is just me? Too many pro-masons threads in here?

Poll lasts one month and vote is kept secret.

[grandsecretary]

I have never used a forum to recruit.

Our problem is handling the number of enquiries that we receive in the normal course of events. From discussions that I have with other Grand Secretaries they all seem to struggle with the same problem. Too many applications from those who are either not serious (fishing trips), or not suitable.

We would not try to recruit on an anti-Masons forum. A quite ridiculous notion.

I vote that this is a non-issue. Please add the radial button.

[nihil]

Good reply, but still unconvinced.

[raphael]

I have never used a forum to recruit.


bullshit
your mere presence is advertising...




We would not try to recruit on an anti-Masons forum. A quite ridiculous notion.


bullshit
your presence on any forum would be called 'damage control'


I vote that this is a non-issue. Please add the radial button.

I vote Freemasons don't get a vote. :p
Not qualified...you have proved yourself somebody that can NOT be trusted with a vote...or setting up a fair voting system...

Betcha the guy who invented the diebold machines was a freemason... ;)
On a hunch I googled it.
170,000 articles on google deal with diebold and freemasons?

namaste

[grandsecretary]

Good reply, but still unconvinced.

Am I bovvered?

Here is a good survey:

Who stole raphael's brain?

1) he lost it

2) he ate it

3) it was thrown away with the afterbirth, by mistake

4) it was thrown away deliberately

I vote 4.

[raphael]

Am I bovvered?

Here is a good survey:

Who stole raphael's brain?

1) he lost it

2) he ate it

3) it was thrown away with the afterbirth, by mistake

4) it was thrown away deliberately

I vote 4.

I will note how the Freemason grand secretary is losing 'control' to a nobody on the internet. :p
Nice composure from the gs.

Mirror mirror on the wailing wall
Who is the unfairest one of them all

Here is a good survey too gs:

Who stole the hearts and minds of humanity?

1) Freemason scum

2) Temple Priest scum

3) Secret Society Patriarchal scum

4) Holier than thou righteous fascist Secular Scum we could call the SS

5) All of the above.

I vote 5 because I can count higher than EWE.
I have fingers...EWE have hooves.

give it up ole' man, I will make you look like the ignoramus you and me both know you to be...
I merely need to hold up a magic MIRROR and reflect back what you project.

All about xyz axis and the w. ;)

Like how we can rotate the Rotas or the Sator magic squares, eh dude?
Clockwise vs. counterclockwise?

http://trinityacresusa.com/CatholicLiving/SaintOfTheDay/ChairPeter.jpg

tick tock tick tock tick tock
hey gs what time do you see...on the Holy Spirit end zone timeclock above the Chair of St. Peter?

go on ole' man...tell the folks what time it is...

namaste

[krakhead]

FYI -it was a DIF member that alerted masons to this forum when they decided to go and spam mason forums and tell them all about this one :rolleyes:

You reap what you sow.......

[keystone]

The Secret Societies section of Icke's forum is full of useless threads as:

expose your lodge - how to join a lodge - lodges here and there

I think masons should head to their own forums or should create one, if not still existing...

I find these threads boring and just a sort of spamming, so asked in here
...but I got an elitarian reply.

What do you think? It is just me? Too many pro-masons threads in here?

Poll lasts one month and vote is kept secret.

I am not voting - there are insufficient options and the options are deliberately skewed to get the answer the pollster wants to see.

In the meantime here is a little story.

Once upon a time there werer two nice forums called the David Icke Forum and The Freemason Forum. Very few members here had ever heard of or cared about the TFM Forum. Very few members on TFM had ever heard of or cared about the DI forum. With me so far?

Over here were a number posters filling this particular section with all sorts of dirt they thought that they had found (or could get away with inventing) about the masons and were quite happy having their cosy little chats and mutual backscratching about how clever they were. Over on TFM much the same was going on but with a far different emphasis obviously.

Now one day a very naughty boy decided he was bored here and getting up a posse decided to invade TFM to try their stuff out over there. They were treated with a certain degree of courtesy but sometimes contempt as well when they seriously overstepped the mark.

As a result of that certain members from TFM decided they would come here and defend themselves against some of the garbage being thrown. Most of these have now left, some look in from time to time and some have stayed on a more or less permanent basis.

Interestingly enough NOT one of the invading team from here was banned at TFM, not one post was censored or deleted. Threads may have been closed but no more than that. Ironically those same people and others who piled in when masons arrived here have got themselves banned from DI for being immature emough to gather themselves enough naughty points to achieve that result. Not one mason has been banned from here although some have acquired naughty points (yes including me) and in certain cases have been stuck on the naughty step for a while.

So the "truth" is that if it wasn't for members here being very silly in the first place there probably would not be masons posting here at all. Thats life, thats tough, what goes around comes around.

I with others have been here a lot longer than peeps that are now complaining. If there is a desire to make this place a mutual back scratching society and a conspiracy "comfort zone" then it will have failed.

Posters here have a "choice" and be thankful that it exists, to read or not to read certain threads whether they are boring or interesting. Spamming threads is NOT unique amongst masons on this site. There are even posters who spam their own threads for heavens sake!

As I type there have been 72 views of this poll/thread and only 8 votes cast. That must say something about the poll.

Cheers

Edit: Ha - Krackers beat me to it.

[keystone]

98 views and only 8 votes. Peeps don't give a rats backside Nihil.

Cheers

[raphael]

http://trinityacresusa.com/CatholicLiving/SaintOfTheDay/ChairPeter.jpg

what time is it Keystone?

namaste

[bluehorseman]

This poll is skewed and I don't think it is serious really. Are there too many proi masonry threads here? Well I have just cast over the threads and the majority fo them start off "anti" masonry I suppose you would call it then what seems to happen is the various freemasons onboard bind them up with counterclaims (often based in logic and fact) and they wind up closing. You see this section is called "illuminti/secret societies" but the main focus seems to be Freemasonry and from what i have read here the main protagonists pushing forward a new world order agenda are not the Freemasons, they are still arguing about whos form of freemasonry was first/more freemasonic - meanwhile the illuminati - the serious fish - are doing their evil workings.

The illuminati and those connected with things like the protocols of Zion and the Georgia guide stones may be members of the Freemasons but they are more likely to be in the higher echelons of Royal houses, international commisions, banks, military etc. and in my opinion this is where investigation and exposure should be directed. Can any Freemasons help us do that?

[grandsecretary]

what time is it Keystone?

namaste

I'll answer that for you keystone, with your permission - PAST high time.

Menasty.

[nihil]

30 days left :p

[keystone]

I'll answer that for you keystone, with your permission - PAST high time.

Menasty.Oh right - I'd better put this cuppa down and get on with my accounts then (bloody tax man grrr).

Cheers

[keystone]

30 days left :pYep 126 views now and still only eight votes and your poll is still useless in terms of arriving at a consensus because the options don't allow anything but your predetermined resut. Never mind. :D

[keystone]

Can any Freemasons help us do that?We can but try.

Cheers

[deathbeast]

bullshit
your mere presence is advertising...



bullshit
your presence on any forum would be called 'damage control'



I vote Freemasons don't get a vote. :p
Not qualified...you have proved yourself somebody that can NOT be trusted with a vote...or setting up a fair voting system...

Betcha the guy who invented the diebold machines was a freemason... ;)
On a hunch I googled it.
170,000 articles on google deal with diebold and freemasons?

namaste

surely your presence here is advertising?
Advertising the need for birth control and the need for tighter controls on drunk people having sex!
to quote red dwarf : everyone has something to bring the this conversation, and the thing you can bring is SILENCE

[keystone]

surely your presence here is advertising?
Advertising the need for birth control and the need for tighter controls on drunk people having sex!
to quote red dwarf : everyone has something to bring the this conversation, and the thing you can bring is SILENCEHe'll calm down. :D

Let me see now. 14 votes and 353 views. How long's this one been running Nihil? Very popular poll. ;)

Cheers

[grandsecretary]

But surely polls have no purpose? Or is it more important than life itself? I doubt it.

[nihil]

We'll win. Deceptives are in minority.

TACE :)

[keystone]

We'll win. Deceptives are in minority.Yes, very clearly.

[grandsecretary]

We'll win. Deceptives are in minority.

TACE :)

But there is nothing to win is there?

We'll win.

"will" is in "we'll" is from the verb "to be".

:confused:

[raphael]

the verb "to be".



first the droll freemason troll posts his usual nonsense ...
however I will be the first to admit that we all serve a purpose...the grand secretary's purpose is to serve me cues.

swasti is composed of su- (cognate with Greek ευ-, eu-), meaning "good, well" and asti, a verbal abstract to the root as "to be"

thus "to be" is my cue to post something worth reading.

insight into what really makes humans tick and how it is connected to all the Freemason blah blah blah, they seem to know nothing about...

to bee or not to bee:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/to-bee-or-not-to-bee/

namaste

[grandsecretary]

To be:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/CuldeebeehivehutsatSkelligMichael.jpg

[marpat]

The Secret Societies section of Icke's forum is full of useless threads as:

expose your lodge - how to join a lodge - lodges here and there

I think masons should head to their own forums or should create one, if not still existing...

I find these threads boring and just a sort of spamming, so asked in here
...but I got an elitarian reply.

What do you think? It is just me? Too many pro-masons threads in here?

Poll lasts one month and vote is kept secret.

I think what you really want is repression of anything that favours the freemasons so that you can all rant about them without any comeback.

[raphael]

I agree that we should be able to give the 3rd graders called phreemasons the 3rd degree.
they should NEED to 'identify' themselves

level, degree, are they christian, muslim etc...
all of the above has a direct bearing
even their current age has some significance.
are they alcoholics?
etc...

This is an OBVIOUS conclusion.
How much and what kind of dogma you digest has a bearing in the makeup of cosmic cosmetics...
What goes in...eventually must come out.

Here is my theory of why the muslims use a particular hand for cleaning up their mess re: what must come out:
It deals with asymmetry of the hands, again, predictable eh?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/learning-to-wipe-your-own-ass-will-help-save-the-world/

namaste

[zenith82]

Is it that much of a problem for them to be represented especially as they are hot topic of conversation on this forum. I really don't see it as an issue. If I or somehitng I was part of was being discussed in great depths i'd be sure to get myself over there to have a look, and to set the record straight if needs be.

I'm not much of a fan of christianity or any religion for that matter and religion isn't really something thats in keeping with David Icke's work but they are still here, with their own subsection and I have no problem interacting with them on the forum and I actually enjoy reading the posts even if only for entertainment value.

Banning certain members wouldn't be in the spirit of the place would it? If you view members as trolls then avoid them, you don't need to read their posts and definitely don't need to respond to them.

I'm not voting :)

[marpat]

I agree that we should be able to give the 3rd graders called phreemasons the 3rd degree.
they should NEED to 'identify' themselves

level, degree, are they christian, muslim etc...
all of the above has a direct bearing
even their current age has some significance.
are they alcoholics?
etc...

This is an OBVIOUS conclusion.
How much and what kind of dogma you digest has a bearing in the makeup of cosmic cosmetics...
What goes in...eventually must come out.

Here is my theory of why the muslims use a particular hand for cleaning up their mess re: what must come out:
It deals with asymmetry of the hands, again, predictable eh?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/learning-to-wipe-your-own-ass-will-help-save-the-world/

namaste

Why? people complain about their privacy being invaded but what you are saying there is also an invasion of somebody elses privacy. Lets say as an example 1% of freemasons were a bit dodgy, the rest being quite diligent, good people trying to better themelves. That means 99% would then be forced to have their privacy invaded just for the sake of curios people and those who assume and accuse before they know.

Do you know any masons yourself and if you do what sort of people are they?

[keystone]

I agree that we should be able to give the 3rd graders called phreemasons the 3rd degree.
they should NEED to 'identify' themselves

level, degree, are they christian, muslim etc...
all of the above has a direct bearing
even their current age has some significance.
are they alcoholics?
etc...

and no doubt have all of them wearing a yellow diamond pinned to the jacket. Tyrant!

It deals with asymmetry of the hands, again, predictable eh?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/learning-to-wipe-your-own-ass-will-help-save-the-world/
Your writings in your blogs are sometimes a great deal more cogent than your posts here. :D

Cheers

[free thinker]

I'll answer that for you keystone, with your permission - PAST high time.

Menasty.

or should that be low tide?;)

[keystone]

or should that be low tide?;)Heh Heh. Very witty but actually GS was more correct. Never mind.

Cheers

[raphael]

Do you know any masons yourself and if you do what sort of people are they?

I knew lots on the fire department.
many rose through the ranks and becoming a captain or chief often had nothing to do with FF merit.

It was mostly on funny handshakes and based on favoritism, cronyism, and nepotism many rose.
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/practicing/focusareas/government_ethics/introduction/cronyism.html

end of story...

ALL secret societies have the same structure.
An apex and a foundation of plebes.

namaste

[marpat]

I knew lots on the fire department.
many rose through the ranks and becoming a captain or chief often had nothing to do with FF merit.

It was mostly on funny handshakes and based on favoritism, cronyism, and nepotism many rose.
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/practicing/focusareas/government_ethics/introduction/cronyism.html

end of story...

ALL secret societies have the same structure.
An apex and a foundation of plebes.

namaste

But what sort of people were they in themselves? perhaps you feel bitter because they were more successful than yourself? are you sure their promotions were based on connections or is that your excuse for being less succesful than them?

Is there anything in life that does not have a structure?

[grandsecretary]

There is absolutely no doubt that Freemasonry has been misused in order to corrupt the promotions system in many fields including the police, and the fire services. It is a great shame that Freemasons seek to cover this up rather than facing up to the truth, and dealing with it.

It is a public disgrace.

[decim]

This made me laugh.

Cheers (by kind permission of course)


I vote 5 because I can count higher than EWE.
I have fingers...EWE have hooves.
namaste

[decim]

Skellig Michael

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Skellig_Michael.jpg/250px-Skellig_Michael.jpg

Skellig Michael (from Sceilig Mhichíl in the Irish language, meaning Michael's rock), also known as Great Skellig, is a steep rocky island about 15 kilometres west off the coast of County Kerry, Ireland. It is the larger of the two Skellig Islands. After probably being founded in the 7th century, for 600 years the island was a centre of monastic life for Irish Christian monks. The Celtic monastery, which is situated almost at the summit of the 230-metre-high rock became a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1996. It is one of Europe's better known but least accessible monasteries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skellig_Michael

To be:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/CuldeebeehivehutsatSkelligMichael.jpg

[decim]

From events over recent years it would appear there were a covert 'war' 'skirmishes' going on within certain 'police' forces.

Well what are you and your fellow defenders of England at the GLAE going to do about them GS?

Us minions have 0 influence.


There is absolutely no doubt that Freemasonry has been misused in order to corrupt the promotions system in many fields including the police, and the fire services. It is a great shame that Freemasons seek to cover this up rather than facing up to the truth, and dealing with it.

It is a public disgrace.

[grandsecretary]

From events over recent years it would appear there were a covert 'war' 'skirmishes' going on within certain 'police' forces.

Well what are you and your fellow defenders of England at the GLAE going to do about them GS?

Us minions have 0 influence.

Knowledge is power decim. We will do what we have done here. Expose corruption in the name of Freemasonry to severe public scrutiny, and counter the deliberate misinformation and disinformation that David Icke so rightly opposes and campaigns against. That is NOT to say that I agree with everything that he says and does, I don't.

I repeat: There is absolutely no doubt that Freemasonry has been misused in order to corrupt the promotions system in many fields including the police, and the fire services. It is a great shame that Freemasons seek to cover this up rather than facing up to the truth, and dealing with it.

It is a public disgrace.

[delamo1999]

From what I have observed is that someone starts a mason forum with an antagonistic theme. Then the masons come in to argue it. Then the digging and name calling kicks in. As a result I have seen many masons get banned.

[decim]

Good.

Knowledge is power decim. We will do what we have done here. Expose corruption in the name of Freemasonry to severe public scrutiny, and counter the deliberate misinformation and disinformation that David Icke so rightly opposes and campaigns against. That is NOT to say that I agree with everything that he says and does, I don't.

I repeat: There is absolutely no doubt that Freemasonry has been misused in order to corrupt the promotions system in many fields including the police, and the fire services. It is a great shame that Freemasons seek to cover this up rather than facing up to the truth, and dealing with it.

It is a public disgrace.

[decim]

Mention of 'Bees' earlier reminded me of the 'Riddle' of Samson & this article & the dual opposing assignation of Bees as good & also by some as 'evil' or 'unclean'.

By Christopher Howse
Published: 12:01AM BST 28 Jun 2008

The bees are back at Lambeth Palace. Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, sought out experts to set up hives in its grounds shortly after his appointment, and now there are 10.

Bees have been having a hard time of it recently, what with the varroa virus and the mysterious new syndrome that wipes out colonies. Their troubles seem sad, for bees have been regarded highly both in reality and in imagery for hundreds of years.

At the most solemn time of the Christian year, the feast of Easter, the bee figures in the formal hymn of praise to the light of the candle lit at the Vigil, representing the light of the risen Christ. "Accept this Easter candle, a flame divided but undimmed, a pillar of fire that glows to the honour of God," sings the deacon. "For it is fed by the melting wax, which the mother bee brought forth to make this precious candle."

The natural history may be a little vague but the sentiment is just. A similarly vague notion of beelike habits is evinced by a most humane spiritual guide, St Francis de Sales, "The bee not only shuns all carrion, but abhors and flies far from the faintest smell proceeding from it," he writes in his Introduction to the Devout Life.

I'm not sure where he gets that from, for a common notion in the medieval and ancient worlds was that bees were generated spontaneously from rotting flesh. "They are born from the bodies of oxen, or from the decaying flesh of slaughtered calves; worms form in the flesh and then turn into bees," says a manuscript of the popular medieval Bestiary.

St Augustine of Hippo, in discussing the contents of Noah's ark (City of God, Book 15, Chapter 27) classes bees among insects that are born from decay and do not propagate sexually. Two hundred years later, the one-man depository of inherited knowledge, Isidore of Seville, passes on this information about bees' generation from corrupt flesh, and hazards that their Latin names apes may derive from their being born without feet - a-pes.

The notion of being generated from corrupt flesh is not an invention of Christian homilists, for it is found in Pliny the Elder and in Virgil too. Philo, the first-century Jewish philosopher, speculates that the reason sacrifices should be free from honey is that the bee is unclean in deriving its birth from putrefaction.

One cannot help being reminded of the golden syrup tin with its picture of a dead lion and the motto "Out of the strong came forth sweetness." This glorious design was introduced in 1885. There must be quite a few children pouring it on their suet pudding, if they are lucky enough to be given suet pudding, who do not realise that the quotation comes from the story of Samson in the book of Judges in the Bible.

The incidents recounted are striking but puzzling. At their heart is a riddle, and riddles have been very attractive in several different cultures - among the Anglo-Saxons, and, centuries before, among Semitic peoples. In this case, Samson kills a lion with his bare hands and, passing the beast's body later, finds a swarm of bees in the carcase. He eats honey from the comb.

At a dinner he bets 30 men a change of garments that they cannot guess his riddle: "Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness." Having threatened to burn her, the men succeed in getting Samson's Philistine wife to entice the answer from him. Samson agrees to pay up, but to do so he has to kill 30 men at Ashkelon, to take their garments.

Philo would have been well aware of this tale of bees and mistrust between Samson and the Philistines, and he'd also have known the passing reference to dangerous wild bees in Deuteronomy and the Psalms. Since those days, bees' approval ratings, as politicians would put it, have improved markedly.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, in his book Silence and Honey Cakes, recounts a story of a desert father appearing to one of his fellow hermits in a dream, not lost in silent prayer, but sitting in a boat conversing with the angels of God, and all of them eating honey-cakes. The dream is used to illustrate the diversity of personal vocations. But no one gets honey cakes without bees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherhowse/3559948/The-riddle-of-the-golden-syrup-tin.html

[grandsecretary]

Hermit's Song

I wish, O son of the living god, O ancient, eternal King,
For a hidden little hut in the wilderness that it may be my dwelling.
An all-grey lithe little lark to be by its side,
A clear pool to wash away sins through the grace of the Holy Spirit.

Quite near, a beautiful wood around it on every side,
To nurse many-voiced birds, hiding it with its shelter.
A southern aspect for warmth; a little brook across its floor,
A choice land with many gracious gifts such as be good for every plant.

A few men of sense - we will tell their number -
Humble and obedient, to pray to the King:-
Four times three, three times four, fit for every need,
Twice this in the church, both North and South:-

Six pairs besides myself,
Praying forever to the King who makes the sun shine.
A pleasant church and with the linen altar cloth,
a dwelling for God from Heaven;

Then, shining candles above the pure white scriptures.
One house for all to go to
for the care of the body,
Without ribaldry, without boasting, without thought of evil.

This is the husbandry I would take, I would choose, and will not hide it:
Fragrant leek, hens, salmon, trout, bees:
Raiment and food for me from the King of fair fame,
And I to be sitting for a while praying God in every place.

The distinguished Celtic scholar, Kuno Meyer.

[moon monkey]

Hermit's Song

I wish, O son of the living god, O ancient, eternal King,
For a hidden little hut in the wilderness that it may be my dwelling.
An all-grey lithe little lark to be by its side,
A clear pool to wash away sins through the grace of the Holy Spirit.

Quite near, a beautiful wood around it on every side,
To nurse many-voiced birds, hiding it with its shelter.
A southern aspect for warmth; a little brook across its floor,
A choice land with many gracious gifts such as be good for every plant.

A few men of sense - we will tell their number -
Humble and obedient, to pray to the King:-
Four times three, three times four, fit for every need,
Twice this in the church, both North and South:-

Six pairs besides myself,
Praying forever to the King who makes the sun shine.
A pleasant church and with the linen altar cloth,
a dwelling for God from Heaven;

Then, shining candles above the pure white scriptures.
One house for all to go to
for the care of the body,
Without ribaldry, without boasting, without thought of evil.

This is the husbandry I would take, I would choose, and will not hide it:
Fragrant leek, hens, salmon, trout, bees:
Raiment and food for me from the King of fair fame,
And I to be sitting for a while praying God in every place.

The distinguished Celtic scholar, Kuno Meyer.

Wonderful prose................soulful.