Secrets of the Freemasons found in the Temple of S

[h2one2]

In Solomon’s Temple there are three references to Pi = 3.14 times 100. Archimedes got around the fractions by just working with a Pi number times 100. The first reference is in the great circle of the 20 diameter circle. Second Pi reference is in the volume of the 10 diameter circle and lastly in the square of the circle.

This square of a circle can be found by making a right triangle can be used to find the longest length, the hypotenuse when implementing the Pythagorean theorem (a ² + b² = c²). Utilizing the Pythagorean Theorem of (a ² + b² = c²) will produce (5.83333 ² + 35² = c²), so (c) equals 35.48278088. Dividing this number by two equals, 17.74139044 which is the length and width of the square intended to equal the great circle and is the final Pi location for magic Pi. Multiplying the square means (17.74139044 times 17.74139044), which will produce an area of 314.7569347.

The number 13.33 is the base of the secret pyramid which immerges out of the Holy of Holies box. 13 = the number of arrows and leaves held by the eagle on the one dollar bill. 33 = 33 degrees of freemasonry. And, 13.33 / 2 = 6.665 the number John gave the beast in Revelations. Lastly the Roman numeral number at the base of the pyramid is MDCCLXXVI which stand for 1776. This number is a wrong length of the hypotenuse and it should have been 17.74.

This book is just wild. Not sure how long it will last posted online, I got my haters.

http://www.disclose.tv/files/photos/f6a673f09493afcL.jpg

[stevepenny]

In Solomon’s Temple there are three references to Pi = 3.14 times 100. Archimedes got around the fractions by just working with a Pi number times 100. The first reference is in the great circle of the 20 diameter circle. Second Pi reference is in the volume of the 10 diameter circle and lastly in the square of the circle.

This square of a circle can be found by making a right triangle can be used to find the longest length, the hypotenuse when implementing the Pythagorean theorem (a ² + b² = c²). Utilizing the Pythagorean Theorem of (a ² + b² = c²) will produce (5.83333 ² + 35² = c²), so (c) equals 35.48278088. Dividing this number by two equals, 17.74139044 which is the length and width of the square intended to equal the great circle and is the final Pi location for magic Pi. Multiplying the square means (17.74139044 times 17.74139044), which will produce an area of 314.7569347.

The number 13.33 is the base of the secret pyramid which immerges out of the Holy of Holies box. 13 = the number of arrows and leaves held by the eagle on the one dollar bill. 33 = 33 degrees of freemasonry. And, 13.33 / 2 = 6.665 the number John gave the beast in Revelations. Lastly the Roman numeral number at the base of the pyramid is MDCCLXXVI which stand for 1776. This number is a wrong length of the hypotenuse and it should have been 17.74.

This book is just wild. Not sure how long it will last posted online, I got my haters.

http://www.disclose.tv/files/photos/f6a673f09493afcL.jpg

13.33....

13 = the number of my house
33 = the number of my Dad's house
6.665 = the number John gave the beast in Revelations + 0.005
1776 = A very nice beer.

:)

[raphael]

interesting that the Great Pyramid follows a different pi.

22/7

The completed design dimensions, as suggested by Petrie's survey and later studies, are estimated to have originally been 280 cubits in height by 440 cubits in length at each of the four sides of its base. These proportions equate to π/2 to an accuracy of better than 0.05% (corresponding to the approximation of π as 22/7). Some Egyptologists consider this to have been the result of deliberate design proportion[14]. Verner wrote, "We can conclude that although the ancient Egyptians could not precisely define the value of π, in practise they used it".[15] Petrie, author of ‘The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh', who was the first accurate surveyor of Giza and the excavator and surveyor of the Pyramid of Meidum, concluded: "but these relations of areas and of circular ratio are so systematic that we should grant that they were in the builders design".[16] Earlier in the chapter he wrote more specifically, that: “We conclude therefore that the approximation of 7 to 22 as the ratio of diameter to circumference was recognised”.[17] These proportions equated to the four outer faces sloping by approximately 51.842º or 51º 50' 35", which would have been understood and expressed by the Ancient Egyptians as a seked slope of 5 1/2 palms [18].

And if SS = Holy Spirit = pi = 22/7
(want to see my notes?)

And if Freemasonry is built on the Egyptian mysteries...?

So Solomon's Temple based on one pi is an alteration of the other pi used by the Egyptians?

i.e. pi 22/7 egyptian >>> pi = 3.141 greek/hebrew

namaste

[h2one2]

Interesting stuff raphael, I will need a few days to look into to this.

[keystone]

And if Freemasonry is built on the Egyptian mysteries...?Mmm - yes indeed.

Cheers

[raphael]

Mmm - yes indeed.

Cheers

it is clear to me...using the archetypal clues laid down, that at some point a switch occurred, or became MORE apparent.

I might even conclude that the differences between the two pieces of pi, can be understood simply by realizing...that the sons and daughters of darkness are served one piece of pi and the sons and daughters of light are served the other piece of humble pie...

;)

face it
thousands of years of belief MUST manifest somehow in what we do, and how we do it.

and the swastika is the key of all keys.

How did I connect the swastika to the pyramids?
What I wrote here...took NO thought at all.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/06/24/pyramids-and-swastikas-how-squares-become-circles/

I was simply taking dictation from the other side. ;)

The other side of, my brain or?

namaste

[raphael]

Interesting stuff raphael, I will need a few days to look into to this.

want to see how I arrived at HOLY SPIRIT = SS = pi?
;)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SSSanctusSpiritusTheHOLYSPIRIT.jpg

Symbol for the HOLY SPIRIT or SS or St. Peter and St. Paul

note it is surrounded by 7 doves...
Leonardo da Vinci whispered into my ear one night, feel the force Raphael, hold the image up to a MIRROR.

I did.
I saw.

22/7 = Holy Spirit = pi

As you know any number divided by '7' (other than 7 or 0) yields the following 6 numbers.
What 6 numbers always appear in the solution of x/7=?

Easy enough to remember what they are.
Remove the magic of Tesla's 3, 6, and 9.

You are left with those 6 numbers that always appear when you divide by 7 doves.
1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8

i.e. 22/7 = 3.142857

And the difference between the two pi is the following.

pi = 3.141 to infinity ... and a repeating sequence has NOT been found.
pi = 22/7 = 3.142857 however the sequence 142857 repeats to infinity...

hmm, the Egyptian hieroglyphs have many repeating sequences that befuddle the Egyptologist.
hmm, DNA is comprised of 95% 'junk' ... again we find many repeating sequences were noted, that is why they termed it junk...

Those are the 6 numbers 124578, Marko Rodin used to build his 'torus'.
Do you know who Marko Rodin is?

Tell me when you are ready to move on with my pi in the sky theory.

namaste

[h2one2]

Hi raphael,

Now you provide even more stuff to look through, more time, more time. I called the swastika in my book "H3onE3" a broken cross demonstrating that this group, the Nazi's are breaking with church traditions but are still tied through its developmental origin. So in the SS German Swastika it is an evolution of the Christian Cross. But might also have origins in Ancient Greece as you say, this I call Duality.

[keystone]

Those are the 6 numbers 124578, Marko Rodin used to build his 'torus'.
Do you know who Marko Rodin is?No I didn't but I do now. WoW! Kerching!

Tell me when you are ready to move on with my pi in the sky theory.Not yet. Too much to take in quickly here.

Cheers

[raphael]

Hi raphael,

Now you provide even more stuff to look through, more time, more time. I called the swastika in my book "H3onE3" a broken cross demonstrating that this group, the Nazi's are breaking with church traditions but are still tied through its developmental origin. So in the SS German Swastika it is an evolution of the Christian Cross. But might also have origins in Ancient Greece as you say, this I call Duality.

what you call duality...I like to call asymmetry.

hitler probably was planning on breaking with church traditions, the ego knows no bounds...but lets face it, he used the german christian plebes to his advantage.
I do not need to provide proof.

the origins of the German adopted swastika are in question.
many theories nothing conclusive.
I have traced a mandala that could be in some way connected to the source.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SantaCantalinaMandala.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png

Do those images look similar?

BLACK CROSS X
WHITE CIRCLE O
RED BACKGROUND

I dare anybody to find a better match.
Really.
I then show how both symbols above are very similar to this Buddhist mandala called the Universe of the Lamas.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/UniverseoftheLamas.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SantaCantalinaMandala.jpg

Note the TWO Pillars in both.
Note the stuff spewing out of the top, it is a gold 'crown' in one image.
So essentially I have confirmed a buddhist/tibetan link to the swastika...

But where did I photograph that other image?

All the above fits nicely into a theory that deals with archetypes that will not die.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/left-hand-pathuniversal-asymmetryright-hand-path/

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/chirality.jpg

A very simple theory that puts our destiny into the palms of our two asymmetrical hands.

namaste

[h2one2]

If the Great pyramids have angle of 51.842º than your saying they have a rise and run of 22/7 = "m" slope. This being the Slope of a line y = mx + b.

Here is a slope calculator.
http://www.1728.com/distance.htm

If the Giza pyramid has a height of 480 feet and a base of 756 and half of which = 378 than.

(Y2-Y1) / (x2-X1) = slope or M

(480-0) / (378-0) = side distance = 610.9697210173349
slope = 1.2698412698412698
Angle = 51.77956794514996
Slope of a line y = mx + bY =
1.2698412698412698 X + 0

I am getting a rise and run of 1.2 not 3.14.

what you call duality...I like to call asymmetry.

hitler probably was planning on breaking with church traditions, the ego knows no bounds...but lets face it, he used the german christian plebes to his advantage.
I do not need to provide proof.

To make a really strong connection I like to find two things, one a physical connection and two a spiritual correlation. And, it is nice to find a similar group which preforms the same fundamental physical and spiritual connection.

1. Physically the swastika looks like a broken cross. Although the KKK does not brake their cross they do set it on fire which will eventually bring it down in a burning mess, when it brakes.

2 Spiritually did the Nazi's and do the KKK feel they are fulfilling biblical prophecy? Now, this been the case the spiritual elements can be extracted between the two similar groups. Instead of thinking each group breaks with tradition, let us consider the possibility that they are church lead. This is when this get really ugly.

[raphael]

If the Great pyramids have angle of 51.842º than your saying they have a rise and run of 22/7 = "m" slope.



If the Great pyramids have angle of 51.842º

do you believe that is correct?
I have seen 51.83 also.
This site suggests 51.83.
http://goldennumber.net/architecture.htm
btw, based on the info above linking 51.83 to phi, and to Arabian alchemy and also to the LO SHU magic square, I therefore lean toward 51.83 having some significance.

And are not the four sides 'different'?
Actually does it not have concave sides...really 8 sides not 4?

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2conc3.gif

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm
more food for thought eh?

sorry to have misled you.
I did not say anything about anything.
I just forgot to attach a link or two.
I merely suggested as food for thought that 22/7 was used as an approximation of pi.

If you feel wikipedia is WRONG...do humanity a favor...sign on and correct it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza

or try this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_22/7_exceeds_%CF%80

this is interesting too.
http://www.gizapyramid.com/Great%20Pyramid%20Architect%20Had%20A%20Secret.pdf

Are you interpreting ALL the info correctly?
You seem to have reduced that entire article to one sentence.

Many folks have given this much thought...and you reduced it all to a one line response?
Are you missing something in your calculations?
Did you leave something out?

Can you prove to me those articles are wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt?
make it real simple, math is not my best defense.

namaste

[stevepenny]

If the Great pyramids have angle of 51.842º

do you believe that is correct?
I have seen 51.83 also.
This site suggests 51.83.
http://goldennumber.net/architecture.htm
btw, based on the info above linking 51.83 to phi, and to Arabian alchemy and also to the LO SHU magic square, I therefore lean toward 51.83 having some significance.

What happened Ralphie; did you run out of fingers and toes to count on?

Typical BS, you got it wrong....again

[grandsecretary]

The use of Wikipaedia Edward Heath was Jamaica's Minister for Sport in 1876 is banned in my home.

Wikipedia acknowledges that it should not be used as a primary source for serious research. (SOURCE: Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia)

Wikipedia errs in billing itself as an encyclopedia, because that word implies a level of authority and accountability that I believe cannot be possessed by an openly editable reference. (SOURCE: Robert McHenry, former Editor-in-chief, Encyclopædia Britannica)

[keystone]

Wikipedia acknowledges that it should not be used as a primary source for serious research. (SOURCE: Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia)

But that's the CYA clause. Nothing else.

Cheers

[raphael]

What happened Ralphie; did you run out of fingers and toes to count on?

Typical BS, you got it wrong....again

ONE IGNORANT RUFFIAN/STOOGE ACCOSTING CHiram

:eek:

I see an archetypal pattern unfolding?
goldilocks and the three boors?

WHY DIDN'T EWE COMMENT ON POST #10?

[raphael]

The use of Wikipaedia Edward Heath was Jamaica's Minister for Sport in 1876 is banned in my home.

#2 IGNORANT RUFFIAN/STOOGE ACCOSTING CHiram
:p

or maybe the pattern is goldilocks and the three moors?


WHY DIDN'T EWE COMMENT ON POST #10?

[raphael]

But that's the CYA clause. Nothing else.

Cheers

THE 3RD IGNORANT RUFFIAN/STOOGE ACCOSTING CHiram
:cool:

no, apparently it is the Three Stooges.


WHY DIDN'T EWE COMMENT ON POST #10?

[raphael]

What happened Ralphie; did you run out of fingers and toes to count on?

Typical BS, you got it wrong....again

Got what wrong?
You haven't presented your evidence?
Duhhh
Only a refutation wiki...that is just a lame tactic fellas...attack the messenger, attack his sources...attack attack
EWE fellas tickle me pink the way EWE follow me around...
I must be getting close?
Why else hound me like a pack of fucking wild dogs, like those running loose in Mexican streets drinking each other's piSS...you ever seen that stevie boy?
I did, in Cozumel.

NOT ALL info on wiki is BS.
Just like with EWE ignorant freemasons.
NOT ALL your info is BS.

Also do you claim I can NOT connect 51.83 to phi, and to Arabian alchemy and also to the LO SHU magic square?
I therefore lean toward 51.83 having some significance....

I could be taking the herd of ewe down a new path Freemason plebe who is probably down a rung or two....take a look up me kilt laddie...
See me one eyed serpent...hiSSin' at ewe?

namaste

[raphael]

To make a really strong connection I like to find two things, one a physical connection and two a spiritual correlation. And, it is nice to find a similar group which preforms the same fundamental physical and spiritual connection.


Hey h2one2, try to ignore the bleats from the 3 freemasons ruffians, who do not know what they do...

I agree totally.
If you make the MICROcosm = MACROcosm connection, it speaks of a truth.
If it is missing, the anomaly is worthy of investigation.
The connection could merely be veiled.
Heaven above meets the heaven below....all are the same...one leads to another...etc...


1. Physically the swastika looks like a broken cross. Although the KKK does not brake their cross they do set it on fire which will eventually bring it down in a burning mess, when it brakes.

2 Spiritually did the Nazi's and do the KKK feel they are fulfilling biblical prophecy? Now, this been the case the spiritual elements can be extracted between the two similar groups. Instead of thinking each group breaks with tradition, let us consider the possibility that they are church lead. This is when this get really ugly.

This post illustrates the many similarities between temples.
Obviously I am trying to etch out a TRUTH, here.
Shall we ignore the 3 Stooges h2one2? ;)

http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14153&p=188992#p188992

namaste

[h2one2]

Hi Raphael

I total ignore the Masons, if fact I don't like them all that much. My American Holocaust video can contest to that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO-eVe2xJZs&feature=channel_page

do you believe that is correct?
I have seen 51.83

I am fine with this angle 51.842º or even 51.83.

I just can't figure out where you are getting 22/7. I would like to know but I can't seem to mathematically find the answer.

[raphael]

Hi Raphael

I total ignore the Masons, if fact I don't like them all that much. My American Holocaust video can contest to that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO-eVe2xJZs&feature=channel_page



nice
I will watch the video.


I am fine with this angle 51.842º or even 51.83.


wow = 51.83 connections ... ;)


I just can't figure out where you are getting 22/7. I would like to know but I can't seem to mathematically find the answer.

are you saying that you are unfamiliar with 22/7 as a representation of pi?
was that the first time you have seen it expressed that way?
or that the computations don't compute...

namaste

[h2one2]

http://www.disclose.tv/files/photos/bee8b2cc16ae69bL.jpg

This might help, details are hard to put in the big picture.

[raphael]

re: 22/7

Archimedes termed it 3 1/7 = 22/7?

does that help?

namaste

[h2one2]

Hi namaste,

22/7 I think came from an ancient Egyptian scroll, I can not recall the name of the scroll. What I can not find is 22/7 in a representation in the Great pyramid. I want to but I can not find it.:confused:

Billy

[keystone]

Shall we ignore the 3 Stooges h2one2? ;)

I total ignore the Masons

Oh lookie - a conspiracy! :D :p

Cheers

[keystone]

Hi namaste,

22/7 I think came from an ancient Egyptian scroll, I can not recall the name of the scroll. What I can not find is 22/7 in a representation in the Great pyramid. I want to but I can not find it.:confused:

Billy

His name is Ralphie not namaste. Namaste means "I bow to that inherent in you" and also "I respect that divinity within you that is also within me". His usage normally disrespects the term in the context of his posts.

Oh and BTW he is playing with you in this thread.

HTH

Cheers

[h2one2]

His name is Ralphie not namaste. Namaste means "I bow to that inherent in you" and also "I respect that divinity within you that is also within me". His usage normally disrespects the term in the context of his posts.

Oh and BTW he is playing with you in this thread.

HTH

Cheers

Its hard to tell who is playing and who is a nut ball, without seeing their poker face. I get a whole lot a both.

[raphael]

Its hard to tell who is playing and who is a nut ball, without seeing their poker face. I get a whole lot a both.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=15657&dateline=1221735977

maybe lizard face should expose my poker face and suggest what my hand reveals then?

what an ignorant piece of freemason poo poo ewe are.

Maybe keystone the freemason plebe can comment on this site:
http://holyspiritvictorious4ever.blogspot.com/2008/07/pi-links-unas-egyptian-texts-to-nasa.html

namaste

[raphael]

Hi namaste,

22/7 I think came from an ancient Egyptian scroll, I can not recall the name of the scroll. What I can not find is 22/7 in a representation in the Great pyramid. I want to but I can not find it.:confused:

Billy

so you cannot find any proof when searching 22/7 within the architecture of the great pyramid?
what about this link?
http://www.jimloy.com/pseudo/pyramid.htm
You are the math guy?
does it jive?

can you find any fibonacci or phi connections to the pyramid?
as you may know these are 'contentious' issues.

the great pyramid containing phi as part of its architecture is an issue.

It is not surprising if 22/7 vs. pi is an issue.

namaste

[boots]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=15657&dateline=1221735977

maybe lizard face should expose my poker face and suggest what my hand reveals then?

what an ignorant piece of freemason poo poo ewe are.

Maybe keystone the freemason plebe can comment on this site:
http://holyspiritvictorious4ever.blogspot.com/2008/07/pi-links-unas-egyptian-texts-to-nasa.html

namaste

The guy is not as ignorant as you make him out to be. He does have knowledge that there is something not quite right with the top echelons of masonry.

All this name calling wont get you far raphael.

You have some interesting info pal but your doing yourself a disservice but not playing it cool.

.

[raphael]

The guy is not as ignorant as you make him out to be. He does have knowledge that there is something not quite right with the top echelons of masonry.

All this name calling wont get you far raphael.

You have some interesting info pal but your doing yourself a disservice but not playing it cool.

.

well you do not understand our history boots...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058285278&postcount=1471
here is an example of the banter that goes on between the holier than thou freemason plebe called keystone who takes oaths, and a fella like myself who has also taken an oath, not to let ignorance become the gate keeper...

keystone is another ignorant freemason that shadows me.
evidently I have drawn the wrath of dumb and dumber and all mobsters who give funny handshakes.
I met these pathetic individuals all my life, in cubs, scouts, all the way up the chain of command, yes sir no sir, the plebes lead me right to the fire department and the Maltese cross.

he has yet to enlighten me about anything that I did not know, that is not readily available on the internet...

And his insistence that the term nazi is a recent adoption, WWII, that has no connection to the ancient term ashkenazi (hebrew for german) is laughable.

Just another indication that his ignorance based on freemason dogma can be exposed by studying other esoteric beliefs other than freemasonry.

eh keystone?
who still has yet to share anything of WOW value re: swastika with me or anybody else?

go ahead Keystone you plebe...explain the significance of the swastika to the big picture and 'Precession'.

Boots this is the kind of info...freemason plebes never post.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/%E2%80%9C%E2%80%A6a-noble-theory-of-everything-must-include-the-swastika%E2%80%9D/

remember the rules...this secretive ancient boy's club are among those who claim holier than thou status, because ?

why play it cool with ole' lizard face, history has proved it is a bluff, 99% of the time, 99% of freemasons know nothing of value anyway that cannot be learned elsewhere.

Half the trick in veiling a mystery is pretending there is a great mystery.
When really it is up front and center and fucking OBVIOUS.
The swastika and phi are two of those OBVIOUS distortions.

There is a story that if you ever saw the contents of the Ark of the Covenant, the priests would need to kill you.
You want to know why?

because the Ark is an empty box.
...out of nothing comes something.

That is how you veil nothing, with something.
Go ahead make something up, make it interesting, make sure it captivates.

namaste

[boots]

I have that book by Frank Walters, "The book of Hopi" It's a bit late here so I'll drag it out tomorrow and have a look at those symbols on the clay tablet's.

Hopi Prophecy: PAHANA/jesus has RETURNED with the miSSing Cornerstone

Posted by: raphael on: July 6, 2009



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I do hate to bang my own war drum….but hey somebody must do it.
We all have a CROSS to bear as we ascend the mountain of the adepts.
And somebody long ago uttered this parable…
1. And he said, “Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death.”
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html
The indigenous HOPI elders speak of ‘Pahana’, the equivalent of the archetypal ‘jesus’.
Quote: The Hopi have awaited three people for many, many years–for centuries. Were these three people Cherokee elder John Red Hat, his partner Dorothy (Dottie) Daigle (The Lady in White), and an anthropologist friend? Chief Mike of Oraibi accepted these three as carrying the Pahana anointing, although there is one more prophecy to be fulfilled that will validate Pahana–the small piece of sacred tablet that the White Brother took with him when he left. When he returns, it is prophesied he will bring it back with him. Hopefully, the complete write-up in the book “Red Hat’s Wisdom” will help clear up some questions, and also reveal why Elder Red Hat told me the angels wept!Creator’s plans often seem to be complex, multi-threaded. Were the three that the Hopi have been waiting for actually just three people, or could they also be three forces? In any case, the three are identified by symbols, and legend has it that they will help the Hopi people survive when all appears hopeless, and this will occur prior to the time of the Great Purification. These three legendary symbols are the Sun symbol, the Moha symbol (swastika) , and the Red symbol. Dottie believes the Sun symbol is symbolic of Creator, the Moha symbol is symbolic of the four forces of nature which will be set in motion, air, water, earth, and fire, and the Red symbol is the Walking the Red Road spiritual path which the ancestors directed her to write. Walking the Red Road is included in the book currently available, “Red Hat Speaks.” These three forces will purify humble people and the earth, and will finally bring us to a new age of peace and harmony.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Hopi-Prophecy—Return-of-Pahana&id=1035095 (http://ezinearticles.com/?Hopi-Prophecy---Return-of-Pahana&id=1035095)
:cool:

[raphael]

I have that book by Frank Walters, "The book of Hopi" It's a bit late here so I'll drag it out tomorrow and have a look at those symbols on the clay tablet's.

Hopi Prophecy: PAHANA/jesus has RETURNED with the miSSing Cornerstone

Posted by: raphael on: July 6, 2009




another great example of where I can take you but the ignorant/mum freemason cannot or will not?

Are the freemasons going to talk about the return of the great Pahana and stir up ole' Hopi cosmology and discuss sacred ancient haunts?

Especially since it is probably a bunch of freemasons who not only designed AREA 51 and NORAD inside the granite Cheyenne Mountain, but occupy most of that area with military installations and designated parks?

Area 51/NORAD occupy what the Hopi suggested are their 'promised' lands?
;)

Seeing a pattern?
Why did the US really go into Iraq to occupy?

Another sacred site close by?
hmm

namaste

[cruise4]

I just listened to a get together with Rodin and Nassim, available from http://tracker.concen.org/ (used to be Conspiracy Central Torrent Archive). Nassim mentioned how using Phi he calculates a spiral, but when he uses the Rodin maths it creates a slightly 'off' spiral. Then there's this http://quadrature.ro/

That image entitled 'chiral asymmetric helical DNA' from this link http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/%E2%80%9C%E2%80%A6a-noble-theory-of-everything-must-include-the-swastika%E2%80%9D/ might be very interesting if done with a star of david shaped field instead of squares.

[keystone]

I just listened to a get together with Rodin and nassim, available from http://tracker.concen.org/ (used to be Conspiracy Central Torrent Archive). Nassim mentioned how using Phi he calculates a spiral, but when he uses the Rodin maths it creates a slightly 'off' spiral. Then there's this http://quadrature.ro/

That image entitled 'chiral asymmetric helical DNA' from this link http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/%E2%80%9C%E2%80%A6a-noble-theory-of-everything-must-include-the-swastika%E2%80%9D/ might be very interesting if done with a star of david shaped field instead of squares.The author of the work at the link you reference wrote the post immediately above yours.

Cheers

[boots]

another great example of where I can take you but the ignorant/mum freemason cannot or will not?

Are the freemasons going to talk about the return of the great Pahana and stir up ole' Hopi cosmology and discuss sacred ancient haunts?

Especially since it is probably a bunch of freemasons who not only designed AREA 51 and NORAD inside the granite Cheyenne Mountain, but occupy most of that area with military installations and designated parks?

Area 51/NORAD occupy what the Hopi suggested are their 'promised' lands?
;)

Seeing a pattern?
Why did the US really go into Iraq to occupy?

Another sacred site close by?
hmm

namaste

How is this relate to Freemasonry? excuse the ignorance, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

Wasn't Saddam Hussein rebuilding Babylon???..... and present day Iraq is the site of the Sumerian's civilisation.




I checked the book and yes that symbol is on the fire clan tablet, the one with the missing corner.


http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Winter/GrandCanyon/ThePlaceOfEmergenceSubhead.gif
http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Winter/GrandCanyon/USAEmergence.gif (http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/)
Though not to scale, this is the approximate path that Masaw, Prince of the Fourth World, gave to the chosen people to inhabit the newly configured world. Each of the four tribes was to travel in one of the principle directions — north, south, east or west — and then turn right, forming a swastika pattern. from there they were to continue turning right in every-increasing inward spirals until the reached their final destination, which was indicated on special sets of stone tablets that Masaw gave to them. This swastika path is essentially the same taken by the sons of Japheth (http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Autumn/Giants/#TheTableOfNations) after the Flood, except their "Place of Emergence" was in the Caucasus (http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/#TheKurgans), on the other side of the world.
And so, the chosen people fanned out towards the four winds — north, south, east and west — from their "Place of Emergence" in the Desert Southwest. However, the exact location of this "Place of Emergence", or Sipapu (http://sipapu.gsu.edu/html/faq.html#1), is not clear. Tradition places it in or near the Grand Canyon region, or perhaps farther north, near Denver (http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/) which, oddly enough, appears to contain some interesting symbolism in its construction which may be relevant here. Perhaps the most likely place might be the "Four Corners (http://www.navajonationparks.org/fourcorners_monument.htm)" area where the states of Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Utah meet, forming a grand cross (http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/tethys.htm) in the middle of the Desert Southwest, though why that area was chosen for such a configuration is also a bit of a mystery.
At any rate, in order to help them find their proper places in this new world, Masaw gave the chosen people clear directions, even writing instructions on tablets so that they would always have a reference and a remembrance to guide them. Interestingly, their journey was not merely to the four corners of the Earth, but in a swastika pattern. Each of the four tribes was to follow their stars towards the four cardinal directions, then turn right, their paths forming a giant swastika across the Americas.















.

[marpat]

another great example of where I can take you but the ignorant/mum freemason cannot or will not?

Are the freemasons going to talk about the return of the great Pahana and stir up ole' Hopi cosmology and discuss sacred ancient haunts?

Especially since it is probably a bunch of freemasons who not only designed AREA 51 and NORAD inside the granite Cheyenne Mountain, but occupy most of that area with military installations and designated parks?

Area 51/NORAD occupy what the Hopi suggested are their 'promised' lands?
;)

Seeing a pattern?
Why did the US really go into Iraq to occupy?

Another sacred site close by?
hmm

namaste

There are sacred sites in every country so you could make that statement about any country the US fight in. I think they care more about oil and money than religion though.

[raphael]

There are sacred sites in every country so you could make that statement about any country the US fight in. I think they care more about oil and money than religion though.

many of the discussions on these forums in regards to the apparent crimes to secure resources in a shrinking world can be reduced to the same line of questioning that begins with...

motivation

what really motivates those who have attained or caught a glimpse of the Power and the Glory?
what really motivates a power and glory structure like the Vatican or the House of Windsor or or or?

a study of archetype that penetrates SpaceTime is helpful in answering those questions.
IMHO

namaste

[raphael]

How is this relate to Freemasonry? excuse the ignorance, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.


Freemasonry at the UPPER levels are about 'knowledge'.
The levels below that are the plebes who form the barrier between THEY and us...this is where confusion and dis-information plays a role to help veil the 'knowledge'.

HERE is a fact to keep in mind when trying to understand the bigger picture.
Hypnotists will say that 'ambiguities' play a role in forming the hypnotic trance state.
THUS disinformation plays a vital role in keeping folks entranced by providing many many many ambiguities.
Do you doubt that?

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Wasn't Saddam Hussein rebuilding Babylon???..... and present day Iraq is the site of the Sumerian's civilisation.


IF I was a freemason/zionist/mossad/whatever, I also would claim he was.
Then I would take possession of his efforts, and continue on with the project. ;)
So Saddam was rebuilding an archetypal 'babylon' and others are following another part of the archetypal script contained in the ARKetypal scriptures and re-building another ARKetypal Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, because of certain covenants?

archetypes are sometimes revealed as those repetitive patterns of history, that we seem to fail to learn from.
Carl Jung would say this deNILE of our history has reached a pandemic of global proportions... :p

No wonder swine flu is a threat that looms on the horrorzion, pearls of wisdom have been cast before the swine for centuries...and ignored by the herd.

We are destined to rebleat HIS-story.


I checked the book and yes that symbol is on the fire clan tablet, the one with the missing corner.

good book by Frank Walters. ;)


Each of the four tribes was to travel in one of the principle directions — north, south, east or west — and then turn right, forming a swastika pattern. from there they were to continue turning right in every-increasing inward spirals until the reached their final destination,

Interesting description.
We end up with 4 spirals turning inward?
And I will always remind folks that whenever I see the word spiral, I think golden thoughts about golden spirals and phi and the Fibonacci CODE 11258 found on CARD X of the Tarot, authored by the Freemason, A.E. Waite.

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/malta/images/tarxien-6.jpg

4 spirals?
Found in Tarxien, Malta?
One of the oldest settlements in Europe?
As old as the Old Egyptian Dynasty.

Something I wrote about those 4 spirals:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/tree-of-life-and-ka-and-magnetism/
TREE of LIFE and KA and MAGNETISM

forming a grand cross (http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/tethys.htm) in the middle of the Desert Southwest, though why that area was chosen for such a configuration is also a bit of a mystery.


interesting eh?
Are they the only 4 states that form a CROSS?
check it out...

But but but...are those the only questionable behaviors of the 'builders' of our society.
What other bizarre coincidences can we find out regarding the 4 Corners region re: swastikas and Denver airport?

http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/us_co_denver_airport_vp.gif

for discussion go here:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10554
I am waiting. ;)

namaste

[marpat]

many of the discussions on these forums in regards to the apparent crimes to secure resources in a shrinking world can be reduced to the same line of questioning that begins with...

motivation

what really motivates those who have attained or caught a glimpse of the Power and the Glory?
what really motivates a power and glory structure like the Vatican or the House of Windsor or or or?

a study of archetype that penetrates SpaceTime is helpful in answering those questions.
IMHO

namaste

We could also ask what really motivates conspiracy theorists who are happy to make accusations on subjects which for the best part are based on assumptions rather than actual knowledge and experience.

[raphael]

We could also ask what really motivates conspiracy theorists who are happy to make accusations on subjects which for the best part are based on assumptions rather than actual knowledge and experience.

:p

history explains my reasons for asking questions.
the right to free speech so I can address the OBVIOUS ignorance.

HIS-story suggests fellas like ewe will step forward at every turn and bleat nonsense.

FACT is you only need two wankers to form a conspiracy.
I believe a SS conspiracy exists.
Two fellas called St. Peter and St. Paul conspired to form a conspiracy.

The biggest conspiracy is supported by critics like EWE who bleat and say "no conspiracy exists".
That is one of the biggest FIBs going.

Discuss the info I present or shut up dude.
Stop attacking the messenger based on your ignorance.
discuss what I post specifically or just shut up droll troll, otherwise unless you debate what I present specifically I will assume it is over your head, and you are ignorant plain and simple.

I would figure after 6000+ posts EWE would have learned how to debate without going for the jugular of the messenger himself?

Is that why all the fellas who speak truth lose their heads?
c'ya put me on ignore.
I ignore your bleats but I will address your ignorance at every turn or opportunity EWE give me.

namaste

[marpat]

Why would I put you on ignore?

The fact is that almost anything can be analaysed and be left open to question, even Ickes work.

Lets face it, how many people in the forum have any actual experience of freemasonry and how many only read about it on the internet presented from a conspiracy angle?

You are right that after 6000 posts I should have learned something. What I see is loads of people throwing a lot of accusations at freemasons who are far more diplomatic and intelligent than the people who accuse them.

I suppose the fact that you are going to write a book on the matter means that you hope to make some cash out of conspiracy theories as well. Nothing like vested interests is there.

[raphael]

The fact is that almost anything can be analaysed and be left open to question, even Ickes work.



like this?
this is a good video...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058289482&posted=1#post1058289482

do I trust the EWE.S.A government?
:p

free speech = challenge ignorance and those who promote it.
homeland security = one official story

freemasons have a history of stirring the pot.


I suppose the fact that you are going to write a book on the matter means that you hope to make some cash out of conspiracy theories as well. Nothing like vested interests is there.


there EWE go again you ignorant __________!!!
why attack me ... especially on the issue regarding money as motivation?

funny the freemasons (via affiliation with Knights Templar) are credited with setting up the one of the first 'banking systems'...
eh?

how fucking ironic EWE should mention I have monetary motivations. :D
:p:p

funny how the archetypal jesus said something in parable about the terrible money traders?

are you blinded by your own ignorance in some matters, thus your ability to debate suffers in these arenas?
the fact that you end your responses with digs against me, along with rarely discussing what I present...speaks volumes re: your motivations OR your ignorance.
I am not sure which it is.
take your bleats elsewhere, really...

I am curious, are you a freemason plebe too?

namaste

[marpat]

Who said anything about trusting governments? I dont. Not being an American I have no reason no trust the US government.

Why is it ironic that I mention your money interests?

I think jesus was only pissed off because it was happening in the temple. If it was outside I dont think he would have cared.

[raphael]

Why is it ironic that I mention your money interests?


what if I made a deal with the jinn, asking for secrets, to be posted for free.
like I do.
I get between 500-1000 hits per day on my wordblog, some folks read what I post on several forums, have I made a dime for all my time?

The formula is simple enough.
I tell two people, and you tell two people and they each tell two people, and and and ... the growth is logarithmic in nature.

Quite similar to the phi golden spiral which is based on the Fibonacci code, which is based on the golden ratio, which is based on the golden mean, follow the yellow brick road dorothy to a TRUTH, eventually arriving back in kanSaS, after having stepped through the looking glass into a land called Oz, then returning after clicking those ruby red slippers three times?

Auntie M I want to go home.
Auntie M I want to go home.
Anti-Matter I want to go home.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_02/popeFM2304_228x536.jpg

humour re: above image:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5433&p=163896


I think jesus was only pissed off because it was happening in the temple. If it was outside I dont think he would have cared.

good point.

Yes there are two temples.
Jesus message was worship the inner gold?
...bring it forth from the inner temple and share it with humanity?

Is that why there are two 'genesis' stories?
1/ the outer macrocosm ruled by laws of relativity.
2/ the inner microcosm ruled by quantum mechanics..

namaste

[marpat]

I dont think jesus thought of worshipping any gold. The reason he booted them out of the temple is because they were bartering for business in a sacred place. A spiritual place is where offerings are made to the deity not where items are bought and sold to people.

I can related to two temples, one being an image of the other. I thought was pretty much standard magical/ spiritual philosophy.

Two genesis stories? do you refer to the two differing accounts of Adam?

[raphael]

Two genesis stories? do you refer to the two differing accounts of Adam?

two genesis?
two adams?
one eve one lilith?

where do you start?
here is one spot...of thousands
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/genesis2.html#u7Oa8pmOuBH6

namaste

[decim]

Another.

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/arms_masons_germany.jpg

[raphael]

Another.

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/arms_masons_germany.jpg

nice image
two comments

that specific one is attributed to st. john / johannes the evangelist

AND

the year 1515

1515 = ISIS ;)

namaste