Fakes can lead to mind control...

[thirdwave]

people who make fakes are fools.... it just adds to the confusion among the truth....

I can tell so many people look for something just so they can have peace of mind they exist... that clearly will not be the way... as long as fakes are around... as for every real one you find...there will be a fake next to it.... and when there is a fake next to it, you wont be convinced... there for all they need to do is keep the fakes looking good and you are hook line and sinker....

I don't need videos ... i know they are real.. know they are there.... and they can stick their fakes where the sun don't shine.

ahhh sorry had to let that out.

[freedomnonfighter]

Yea, it upsets me to the core to have people fake things of such importance.

But I understand why it's done (from the PTB's perspective).

I've seen two in my life, so I know they are 'real' as well :)

Afterall, "the only real valuable thing is Intuition" - Einstein

While there may be a million alleged UFO videos, to think that they are
ALL fake or natural phenomena is absurdity in my book.

When people ask me if I "believe in aliens" I simply ask them- "Have you ever looked up?"

[lydia78]

Charlitans, abound. Intuition is the key in these situations as you know already, but I understand the frustration.

If you know, you know!!:D
Don't let them get you down for to long, we're with you!!:)

[lightbeing]

If someone asks me 'do you believe in ufos/ets', I now say 'no I don't believe in them, I know they exist'.......................;):)

[eternal_spirit]

Guys these UFO's are man made flown by men. But if you wan't to believe in Aliens fine, I'm not saying there aren't aliens and UFo's out there. I can't see how anyone could prove it if they captured on film/picture that it is a real UFO or not. That's the problem

[freedomnonfighter]

I believe most if not all UFOs are terrestrial, whether they are flown by man or not I couldn't tell you. Probably pilotted by men most of the time, but I couldn't say for sure.

[lydia78]

UFO technology came from somewhere.

There's no doubt there have been quantum leaps made from the old style planes and cars, etc in the last 50 yrs alone.......where did they get the advanced technology from if not from outside help?

[2013]

i have this argument a few times with people i know concerning technology .They insist that it has come on in leaps and bounds while it has in lots of areas i maintain not being in the least mechanical so there for an expert (i used to be slimmer but not anymore so i am an ex - pert ) that the basic engine and process of running a car hasnt changed really in lthe last 100 years maybe we get better milage etc but you would of thought considering the advances made elsewhere that we would have far more efficant cars to use , enter suppressed technology etc .Must check out who killed th electric car t oadd to my argument , well its not really an argument more a well intentioned discussion whereby if they can defeat my logic then they can disprove all my other pet theories lol .logic ? who needs it :D

[graflok]

Guys these UFO's are man made flown by men. But if you wan't to believe in Aliens fine, I'm not saying there aren't aliens and UFo's out there. I can't see how anyone could prove it if they captured on film/picture that it is a real UFO or not. That's the problem

Your avatar is perfect. ;)

[graflok]

I believe most if not all UFOs are terrestrial


I agree.

In my opinion the actual ET craft are the ones that "crash" (i.e., are shot
down). The ones that fly around unmolested belong to the landlords of
this planet or to the "government."


whether they are flown by man or not I couldn't tell you. Probably pilotted by men most of the time, but I couldn't say for sure.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "men."

[woghd]

Well said!

Archangel

[thirdwave]

Guys these UFO's are man made flown by men. But if you wan't to believe in Aliens fine, I'm not saying there aren't aliens and UFo's out there. I can't see how anyone could prove it if they captured on film/picture that it is a real UFO or not. That's the problem

I think the elite will be more happy to have people believe what you do... at least for now...

I think they want to slow down the realization that aliens are as real as a cup of coffee....

its clear in history books aliens have come down to us, every religion... many old texts... sulptures..pictures.... stories... .. and its clear that not all of these UFOs are man made by how they can move... maybe now they have some or some that are very good but not quite as good as the ETEs ....

but saying that we have UFOs that can zoom around the planet in seconds and surf around space, and saying that none of them are from ETEs is just far fetched in my view.... if we can get up there like that then there must be other beings that can do 100 times more.... and thus could very easily be here.... the question is why do we not see them down the pub?.... and thats easy

1,most people don't want to know about them and shit their pants when thinking of them, they know this.... 2, the government would probably shoot them when they come near, and even if they can win that fight its not for them to over throw our crooks its for us to do it..... 3, any ETE of negative intention would feel we are not as manipulative as we once were so would either bugger off elsewhere or try and work through our higher powers and try to manipulate them in order to get what they want as it would be less challenging than trying to overpower the masses..

so all we get is the odd UFO siting that people don't even pay attention to ...or if they do they think its one of our military in some super air craft. (that for some reason they have kept a secret from us for since we can remember)

[kha zarr]

anyway i dont 'believe' in ufos as in depend on their having existed to believe in extraterrestrials. This is one of the most difficult things to 'prove'. I saw something once but it was very small, very high up in the sky [clear night] but looked like a random flashing and spiraling of light, similar to how ...hmm...in police academy officers sweetchuck and zed had to pick up trash outside so they got dogs to bite the flashlights and fight, so it looked like flashlights were spinning all over the place, looking on the ground. Those two lights I saw kinda looked like that XP. Only months ago I saw a black triangle but it was def. a plane like F117 or something very close to that, and it was flying low, I definitely could make it out. It flew straight like our planes fly, no random deviations, also was ours b/c you could see those undergear lights which 'looked' earth designed. So no Ive never really definitively seen a ufo, myself. It was late dusk and so the only way I saw it was the lights underneath it made the shape easy to see.

The universe is huge but it has a type of order suggesting much life. theres so much out there we could only hope to see right now. But it would be neat to fly that way, wouldn't it??? Imagine a flight from new york to sydney in a noiseless g-force dampened spacecraft, takes only 20 - 50 minutes flight time [versus 20 hours]! I wouldn't mind having improvements in transportation like that.

I had a dream the other night I saw a spaceship, Ive actually had various dreams about them, and Im never afraid, infact quite the opposite. Well there was anticipation. In a few of them I was inside one. One was like a shopping mall, the other just a small little car-sized one. Of course after seeing fire in the sky I was totally afraid of aliens, but I was younger. Many films depict a hostile craft that may shoot lazers at them. Perhaps in earth history something like this happened so the fear is transmitted down [mahabharata, vimana/vailixi, laser weapons?]. ill admit i watch a lot of sci fi though.

[tinmenace]

...the landlords of
this planet...


I like that expression. May I borrow it?

[god is love]

Some U.F.O. s are man made secret weapons . Some are made by beings from this world that are not human. Some are made by beings from other dimensions . Some are made by beings from other planets.

It is absurd to suggest that all are Alien or all are Human made . It is equally absurd to suggest that all are fakes. I never took much notice of U.F.O.s until this Year . From August 13/08/2007 I have filmed 8 videos of U.F.O. footage in my street/ town , on the South Coast of England. My house / street has been & is being targeted by Silent black aircraft spraying chem trails & Silent white Aircraft spraying chem trails on a massive scale. I have the evidence check for yourself.My pc is probed hundreds of times a week by DOD & Military and this is a boring quiet dull town that was voted into the Book " Crap Towns U.K." . Thus the attention my area is getting
is a sign that my U.F.O. reports are being monitored. There are no military bases , no heliports , nothing but seagulls , chavs & old people.

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