Can I stil send noi&affidavit if receivin benefit?

[wildhorse]

I want to send in my affidavit/NOIU, however, due to circumstances, I am going to be receiving housing benefit and council tax benefit.

can I still state my intentions to live by common law jurisdiction?

first off I thought no, bit of a cheek, but then I thought well they got my money by deception...its my money anyway with regards to my bond...

I am trying to save up to buy some organic stock for my own biz, and until then, I cant sell anything, and full time slave jobs are not what you call rife in my little country village.

your thoughts pls?

[scotfree]

Tis not "YOU" which is recieving the "benefits"
it is your "PERSON"

[rob menard]

Your person is that thing by which you receive the benefits, and whoever wants the benefits are liable for the burdens of those benefits.
Imagine you are married, if you are not already.
Your 'husband' cheats on you and tries claiming that it was not the 'husband' component of him that cheated, but the 'man' part and thus your 'husband' did not cheat on you.
Would you buy that?

Now that is not to say that you could not craft a COR establishing amongst your rights, the ability to collect so-called benefits.

[tompax]

The way I see it, if you need government handouts and can't survive on your own... you are not a freeman but a slave.

[dondaz]

Now that is not to say that you could not craft a COR establishing amongst your rights, the ability to collect so-called benefits.

I agree, benefits are for the strawman after all. The only contract I am aware of that gives consent to be governed is that bit of paper showing you have elected for representation.

I claim benefits for my 'person'. My contract with the 'dole' does not state I am obligated to allow dodgy polititions to run my life.

[girlgye]

Not so fast. The BENEFITS of admiralty are just that BENEFITS OF ADMIRALTY opt in either as a person or a flesh and blood which they are about to change to mean both things regardless and you take on the garb of ADMIRALTY rules.

Now I know commercial redemption is an entirely different ball park but i'd really like to see some true results with it. as an individ my view is you are saying you are your person so thus you ARE THE live BIRTH. Therefore you joinder to all liens put against you.

On my court papers i just put my freeman name all rights reserved.

Perhaps you need to do that on your benefit papers but see whether they will pay you your benefits then.

[wildhorse]

The way I see it, if you need government handouts and can't survive on your own... you are not a freeman but a slave.

gee thanks for that pearl of wisdom

i am not claiming to be a freeman - just this is a path I hope to follow one day, I am new to this taking it step by step, and have had alot of shit last few years, so getting back on my feet is a big feat in itself. In a perfect world I would be in a certain off grid house, tending to a certain veg patch and getting some certain hens back in their hutch...but guess what...thats not happening just yet. I need to plough whatever money I have into my own biz and get back self employed before the recession hit and no-one wanted to know after.

however, I am a human being and this human being wishes to act under common law jurisdiction regardless. Yes my 'strawman' collects the benefit, but this human, and strawman and all, cannot agree to how this country is dictated.

I might just blast a letter off to the Queen, it might not be an Affidavit as such, but I made my own contract with her boss anyhow.

[dondaz]

Not so fast. The BENEFITS of admiralty are just that BENEFITS OF ADMIRALTY opt in either as a person or a flesh and blood which they are about to change to mean both things regardless and you take on the garb of ADMIRALTY rules.


Where'd you get this info from???:confused::confused::confused:

[tien an]

Where'd you get this info from???:confused::confused::confused:

I'm not answering in GG's place, but what I think (and fear) she means is that when we eventually join the EU, there will be no common law...at least as far as TPTB are concerned.
If I'm not mistaken, these islands on which we dwell will then become a civil law (= Napoleonic) jurisdiction.

Please, someone tell me I am wrong; I'd love it to be so.


tian an.

[dondaz]

when we eventually join the EU, there will be no common law...at least as far as TPTB are concerned.
If I'm not mistaken, these islands on which we dwell will then become a civil law (= Napoleonic) jurisdiction.

Please, someone tell me I am wrong; I'd love it to be so.

Sure, we know this is one of their plans. But that doesn't mean we have to accept it. Just because they say it is so, doesn't meant that it is. The truth of it is we do not have to abide by their legislation. We do not!

The good people of Ireland have been showing true courage and determination in standing up against the eu, we should do the same!:)

[tien an]

Sure, we know this is one of their plans. But that doesn't mean we have to accept it. Just because they say it is so, doesn't meant that it is. The truth of it is we do not have to abide by their legislation. We do not!

The good people of Ireland have been showing true courage and determination in standing up against the eu, we should do the same!:)

I completely agree Daz...if only we had a bloody referendum!

But back to the OP's question: Benefits or not as a freeman?

tian an.

[dondaz]

But back to the OP's question: Benefits or not as a freeman?

tian an.

Benefits are for the strawman, not the freeman:)

I believe the choice is mine. If there is a new path, I try walking a few steps down it and see what happens, regardless if some screem 'don't go down there,' when they haven't walked that path themselves.

Those running the system have to refute what I do, not anyone on here. That's my take on it anyway.

[ghostdogg]

what if the strawman hands his benefits over to you ... through a written statement ? :) :) :)

[girlgye]

Benefits are for the strawman, not the freeman:)

I believe the choice is mine. If there is a new path, I try walking a few steps down it and see what happens, regardless if some screem 'don't go down there,' when they haven't walked that path themselves.

Those running the system have to refute what I do, not anyone on here. That's my take on it anyway.



I don't know if you are insinuating i'm having a go at you for collecting benefits as I am not. Personally i'd rather have much more mileage in collecting my real benefits of £34 million a year. Not some insult of a handout for being a good slave. The system of admiralty law has benefits many of them driving licence, birth cert, mortgage, passport, benefits on tax, benefits to the poor all designed to create dependence rather than dissent on them. Look up some books on admiralty darren and there you will find. You can't be a free man and be in the system which keeps it trapped together. That is my view today it is not a personal attack on anyone who quite rightly chooses to receive debt notes in exchange for their existence when they have at present no other means to exist.

Personally though, I'm moving away from seeing this as a good system. I could change my mind again next week. That's just the way i feel today.

As for the common law being banished what a palava in order to get us to kneel before our masters but then so was the twin towers debacle. Maybe these bastards are running just a tad scared.

HOwever, the common law is the common law. IT CANNOT BE ABOLISHED.

We don't have to do anything they demand of us and least of all they don't get to gun tote us unless we keep them up their high standards using debt notes.
No debt notes. No power. Simple.

[dondaz]

I can diferentiate between myself and the strawman. I have read much on Admirality. It doesn't apply to me unless I submit. I am not the strawman, I am not a birth certificate. A freeman isn't part of the system, clearly. A legal person, a bit of paper, is part of the system.

I've never had a driving licence or passport either.

You can't be a free man and be in the system which keeps it trapped together.....

........Personally i'd rather have much more mileage in collecting my real benefits of £34 million a year.

So you're not interested in being a freeman-on-the-land, you're interested in Commercial Redemption. You can't do that without taking control of your strawman. To take control of your strawman you must first realise you are not the strawman, your bc is. When you realise that you will realise that Admirality or the eu or anything else that wants to control you must also know you are not the 'person/strawman.'

They can never make me believe I am that 'person' because of the benefits. That's bollocks and nonsense.

[girlgye]

I don't think this person thing is going to matter much soon. I was being sarcastic. You think i'm that deluded that i think i'm going to go on the holy grail of set off. I came bloody close to the right people though and now they've blocked the government site. So much for Labours vision of transparency in all government departments eh?

Accept the benefits joinder the person simple as that. Perhaps you can say in an NOUI that some benefits you'll take without prejudice but let's just see whether that actually works in principal.

In fact at the time of body being stolen they teef my drivers licence out of my bag and pretended that i gave them my person details. It is now 7 days and no video evidence has been produced to my home which i asked for.

[malvern]

Benefits


Are they Benefits ...... or is it just a claim against your National Insurance ?



freedom is the grandchildren we are the caretakers

[girlgye]

:p
yes point in point.

[dondaz]

Accept the benefits joinder the person simple as that.

I don't believe in that at all. A person can not be joined with a man. It's not possible, so how can it be done? Where is this clarified??? Don't tell me it is implied, who implied it?

It's just an illusion. I claim benefits on behalf of my strawman and refute statute and act obligations on me as a human. I have put this to the test and the system can't refute it!

They can't!

Therefore it stands as the truth!

EU or no EU, it makes no difference. They all need your consent. End of! I've had the police, CID, try to pull the 'well if you're claiming benefits,' then you have to obey.'

Well charge me and watch your case fall to bits in court. They had no answer and cool sharp harped it.

The truth will set you free!

[scottmurray]

i have to say .....that to claim benifits whilst standing up against the system that pays them is an absolute contradiction as far as im concerned"moraly" at least.
The problem with this movment is its full of freeloaders trying to get something for nothing.DO WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY LIKE BANGLADESH.....no of course not.sureley if you are inteligent enough to see that you have a choice then and only then are you deemed able to self govern.
I for one have had several encounters with the establishment on such issues my most recent was a fifty in a thirty speeding and after i established that i was MASTER rather than opportunist and i knew the truth "in my heart"and not from some silly template letter i walked away unscathed......becuase i knew rather than hoped i was correct ..you got me?
See the PIKEY freeloaders are bringing the whole thing down as some sort of stupid anarchistic problem with authority child like movement rather than an enlightened fellowship(hi guys im new on here and just been done for being 16 times over the limit can anyone help me beat it?......yes we can ).
How many of the decent educated sorts on here the real ones who actually contibuted to the progress have stopped posting and distanced themselves from this shit.....come on folks think about it,is this what we have become????????

[wakeupworld]

Claiming benefits is NOT a contradiction whatsoever. We were/are tricked into becoming the strawman and many for years pay unlawful taxes in other words the money is stolen from us, so a freeman claiming benefits is taking back what is theirs in the first place and he/she can do this on behalf of the strawman as Dondaz correctly put it.

[scottmurray]

Claiming benefits is NOT a contradiction whatsoever. We were/are tricked into becoming the strawman and many for years pay unlawful taxes in other words the money is stolen from us, so a freeman claiming benefits is taking back what is theirs in the first place and he/she can do this on behalf of the strawman as Dondaz correctly put it. oh right waiting for their clemency and generosity not the behavior of a master now is it dont freeman take responsibility for their own affairs?
if you accept their part of the contract then sureley you must accept yours.......AM I WRONG?

[wakeupworld]

Their generosity??? Sorry you lost me there.

[scottmurray]

Their generosity??? Sorry you lost me there.
oh a sarchastic take at their handouts.