Why does David Icke hate ganja?

[ninpo]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?

[edelweiss pirate]

Weed makes you a lazy bastard.

I wish I could smoke for ever and ever but I can't..

I've a job to hold down.

Shit! Lucky you... spark up a fatty for me!

[ninpo]

Weed makes you a lazy bastard.


Not me. It just makes you not want to do what society wants you to do like work, slave at stupid jobs and shit.


I wish I could smoke for ever and ever but I can't..

I've a job to hold down.

Shit! Lucky you... spark up a fatty for me!

Bowl is packed brah.

[eternal_spirit]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?
...........

He prefers a pint. It's a common thing for drinkers to have a laugh at smokers. when the smokers can see what drink does to them lol. Know what I mean.

[montag]

Not me. It just makes you not want to do what society wants you to do like work, slave at stupid jobs and shit.
Thats exactly why the system bans pot yet legislates to make sure we get enough coffee(caffeine) breaks during the work day..:D

[joss classey]

seems that icke is trapped by stereotypes just like us all

i guess this is just proof that he's only human like the rest of us

[ninpo]

...........

He prefers a pint. It's a common thing for drinkers to have a laugh at smokers. when the smokers can see what drink does to them lol. Know what I mean.

Drinking and smoking cigarettes is the worst thing you can do for your body.

But if you ain't smoking in britain, you mineaswell be wearing a dress, I guess....

[sensimillia]

i suffer from a mild form of adhd, and pot is the only thing that makes me concentrated and creative. or thats what i´m telling myself...;)

[ninpo]

seems that icke is trapped by stereotypes just like us all

i guess this is just proof that he's only human like the rest of us

Might that not affect his message though?

[rasnalgoul]

ninpo i totally agree with you, pot allows you to see how pointless the rules of society are, like work ethic, and proper edicate. Its all bullshit. People are supposed to be lazy bastards. Tribal people spend a good portion of there day laying around relaxing. And they have the best lifes of all people. Also, I think weed makes you slow down and contemplate everything, so inevetibly your gonna spend time just sitting around questioning everything instead of slaving away- exactly what 'they' dont want.

smoke de herb mon!

[ninpo]

Thats exactly why the system bans pot yet legislates to make sure we get enough coffee(caffeine) breaks during the work day..:D

And people put sugar in their coffee. Sugar is a worse addiction than heroin.

How many people you know stop taking sugar unless they have too?

Plus, it destroys the planet.

[joss classey]

Might that not affect his message though?

it's a bit ironic how he quotes bill hicks on his 'just a ride'

when bill is the man who said that pot should be mandatory

[ninpo]

ninpo i totally agree with you, pot allows you to see how pointless the rules of society are, like work ethic, and proper edicate. Its all bullshit. People are supposed to be lazy bastards. Tribal people spend a good portion of there day laying around relaxing. And they have the best lifes of all people. Also, I think weed makes you slow down and contemplate everything, so inevetibly your gonna spend time just sitting around questioning everything instead of slaving away- exactly what 'they' dont want.

smoke de herb mon!


It works for me.

[ninpo]

it's a bit ironic how he quotes bill hicks on his 'just a ride'

when bill is the man who said that pot should be mandatory

He also complains about his health, but he has a huge ass gut and drinks pints.


And his favorite food is beef?

Is icke really changing, or is he just staying the same and paying lip service?

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Well well well....



It seems that I couldn't give a shit...


Yeah...


Smoke em' if you got em'... I guess...:cool:

[joss classey]

Well well well....



It seems that I couldn't give a shit...


Yeah...


Smoke em' if you got em'... I guess...:cool:

you are the second 666 poster i have seen this evening!

it's a fucking epidemic

[mada88]

We need saving! what from? Then if we need saying we need a goalkeeper (gatekeeper?) like David :D with the in the zone slow mo moves klkl.

[ninpo]

We need saving! what from? Then if we need saying we need a goalkeeper (gatekeeper?) like David :D with the in the zone slow mo moves klkl.

You obviously have better stuff than I.

Canadian?

[bigus_dickus]

you are the second 666 poster i have seen this evening!

it's a fucking epidemic

and by that post, you made your 66th

but don't panic. the beast's dial has changed to 616 which is more cute.

[joss classey]

and by that post, you made your 66th

but don't panic. the beast's dial has changed to 616 which is more cute.

jesus christ i didn't even realise that!

coincifuckingmental

[auron]

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5008/jointun9.gif
ninpo i totally agree with you, pot allows you to see how pointless the rules of society are, like work ethic, and proper edicate. Its all bullshit. People are supposed to be lazy bastards. Tribal people spend a good portion of there day laying around relaxing. And they have the best lifes of all people. Also, I think weed makes you slow down and contemplate everything, so inevetibly your gonna spend time just sitting around questioning everything instead of slaving away- exactly what 'they' dont want.

smoke de herb mon!

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[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.


ahh he probably got ppl giving him shit-like u'v smoked too much or something. probably trying to distance himself from things that make him seem untrustwrothy or crazy. pot can make u nuts, but it depends on the person, sme ppl really need it- it makes them actually a nice person lol, and others it's quite bad for-they loop the fuck out. don't take it personally, i would say that i am a retired pro pothead, and now just a hobbiest lol- being a pro pothead is about as expensive as going pro racing driver lol...but more fun and less dangerous

[ninpo]

ahh he probably got ppl giving him shit-like u'v smoked too much or something. probably trying to distance himself from things that make him seem untrustwrothy or crazy.

That makes sense.

[joss classey]

That makes sense.

not to me

[yeiayel]

I agree with rasnalgoul. But I knew someone working as truck driver
and he smoke during the work. I think if a person want to smoke he must smoke when he hasn't any responsability over other persons.
If you has a quiet work at home etc.

[peachped]

And people put sugar in their coffee. Sugar is a worse addiction than heroin.

How many people you know stop taking sugar unless they have too?

Plus, it destroys the planet.

People don't knock old biddies over to steal their handbags because they want a sweet brew.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

i was watching that Matrix doco (some of it anyway-gotta finsih the download..oops i didn't just say that) and he said something along the lines u were talking about. he looks like he got into at one point, the stuff he knows could only have come from drug use (of the hardest caliber)!

speakin of bud, what kind do u like the best natural or hydro, and whats the quality like ur way?

i like a bit of both, but natural has that horrible taste-unless u get some from someone who fully knows what they're doing. iv had bushies that had no side effects and iv never been higher from, but were completly organic, it was really good shit. but then again it's nice to have some hydro to get you plain fucked up...iv got alittle chop ittin next to me, iv been looing at it planning and plotting for the past 5 hours, grrrrrrrrrrr *loosing self control*....

[ninpo]

not to me

I suppose it makes sense if he does not want to dissuade new people to what he is telling.

[joss classey]

People don't knock old biddies over to steal their handbags because they want a sweet brew.

haha

[ninpo]

i was watching that Matrix doco (some of it anyway-gotta finsih the download..oops i didn't just say that) and he said something along the lines u were talking about. he looks like he got into at one point, the stuff he knows could only have come from drug use (of the hardest caliber)!

speakin of bud, what kind do u like the best natural or hydro, and whats the quality like ur way?


I live in florida, we have good bud but it ain't always available.


i like a bit of both, but natural has that horrible taste-unless u get some from someone who fully knows what they're doing. iv had bushies that had no side effects and iv never been higher from, but were completly organic, it was really good shit. but then again it's nice to have some hydro to get you plain fucked up...iv got alittle chop ittin next to me, iv been looing at it planning and plotting for the past 5 hours, grrrrrrrrrrr *loosing self control*....

I have only smoked totally organic once. And stuff that his hydro is not as good tasting to me as stuff that is grown from the earth.

PLus, you don't know what people put with it to make it smell different...

[ninpo]

People don't knock old biddies over to steal their handbags because they want a sweet brew.

Cause sugar is cheap.

WTF is "biddies"?

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

"And people put sugar in their coffee. Sugar is a worse addiction than heroin."

damn straight!-i would choose a coke over a shot anyday! lol speaking coke how addictive is that shit man, i need rehab for that stuff....

iv heard of one guy (in my life) that hocked his freind's stuff for weed, it rare...kill anyonbe for it? well iv thought abou...um er...never!

yaiyel- yeahi agree, not good idea to smoke while driving a big heavey truck for many hours....bad plan. if id dosn't hurt others what's the big deal?

[yeiayel]

Sugar cause "ADHD"

[yeiayel]

mad people can be dangerous

[joss classey]

i just realised.

the thread is called, 'why does david icke hate ganja?'

i mean we really don't know this for sure

[yeiayel]

he like beer

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

availablity is a prob, damn cops! always goes dry just after a bust-and then half of what they "confiscate" disappears...

i would chosse the taste of good hydies over crap bush, but good bush beats good hydies. iv managed to get organic like twice and only through friend of friends kind a thing, it's really rare these days, which is a shame. man that was some killa shit, and no after afects....
yeah u don't know what they put in shit these days! (or rather u DO know and that's why u avoid it! lol) like my mate who smoke the best shit he had ever had-and i mean the best, it was like half cone wonders- the ppl who grew it thought it would be a good idea to spray it-not only with hydro chemicals but also WD40! yay, another victory for vegitablism

[lydia78]

Can't imagine David 'hating' much. least not a wee pot plant.:)

[yeiayel]

yes avalablity is a real problem legal ganja or if you do a personal cultivation is the best

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

"least not a wee pot plant"

man i can imagine that dude getting into more than a wee one, lol. if he dosn't smoke now he's tried it for sure, i would bet money on it...if i had any

[peachped]

Cause sugar is cheap.

WTF is "biddies"?

Biddies = old people, my apologies for my colloqialism, so if sugar was £10 - or $10 a bag people crazed with a sugar habit would knock old folk to the ground in order to get their hands on the stuff? I don't think so!

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

yeah i would love to grow it myself if i had the right place. prob is ppl don't mind their own business. i know i donn't, not when it involves weed! lol i walk past houses all the time that u could sware had a plantation...my neibours would call the cops pretty quick. ur allowed to have 2 bushies but not hydro. but even so, a guy was telling me that this new law is dodgy and if u get caught u don't get a charge but they are allowed to follow u and go into any house that you do, or sum shit, i havn't checked this out myself so don't quote me

[yeiayel]

Too much work!

[king]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?

that explains a lot about you posts
:D

[ninpo]

that explains a lot about you posts
:D


Yes and?

[ninpo]

Biddies = old people, my apologies for my colloqialism, so if sugar was £10 - or $10 a bag people crazed with a sugar habit would knock old folk to the ground in order to get their hands on the stuff? I don't think so!

I bet if people had to pay more for their coffee, tea and sugar there would be riots in the streets of limeyland, yes.

[yeiayel]

You can use artificial light to grow the plants

[auron]

I have loads of books on how to cultivate. PM and i will e-mail them to you. :)

EDIT: Check this page out too:

http://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32

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[lydia78]

"least not a wee pot plant"

man i can imagine that dude getting into more than a wee one, lol. if he dosn't smoke now he's tried it for sure, i would bet money on it...if i had any

Can't imagine him smoking, can see him eating it though.......share em' out Dave!!:D

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

yeah iv thought of that, the prob is iv heard of ppl being done coz their electricity suddenly went up (don't ask me how cops wuld noe-but iv heard it from heaps of ppl) and then i thought of generators, but then it's getting too expensive, especially coz i wuld need a silent generator. and then if you get caught, with any kind of indoor plants-ur fucked thats growing for supply

[yeiayel]

I can

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

mmm cookies, he could be a cookie monster, but that's my nickname..wait sorry thats CANDY monster

[yeiayel]

you can go in open unknown place in country an spread the seeds. Wait...and
pick up.

[yeiayel]

mmm cookies, he could be a cookie monster, but that's my nickname..wait sorry thats CANDY monster

???

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

lol yeah iv talked about this with my friend who livein the country but the said to do it properly so none sees it and steals it u have to get a motor bike and go into the bush and find a spot no one has been for 100 years, then it would be safe, or live in an apartment!

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

Originally Posted by binhdinh_khiwarrior View Post
mmm cookies, he could be a cookie monster, but that's my nickname..wait sorry thats CANDY monster
???

sorry that was to lydia, about david eating weed, so i said he could be a cookie monster and the other bit's just a joke

[freedomnonfighter]

"Doesn't making NATURE Illegal seem a bit... I dunno... UNNATURAL?" - Bill Hicks
--
We grew 2 cannabis sativa plants in a closet in our apartment... they reached the ceiling. And fast.

That was our first time though, many many mistakes were made.

Then not two weeks before they were completely ready,
we got an "Emergency Fire Marshal Inspection Notice" -
the next morning all apartments will be inspected for
'working' sprinklers, alarms, yadda yadda.

So we spent half of that night contemplating what to do,
and the other half chopping and clipping it all up :(
Some friends were like "c'mon dudes let's just throw a huge
garbage bag over them and I'll drive them in the flatbed!"
Uhhhhhhhhhhh NO.

(Oh yeah and OF COURSE they never showed up, dammit!!!) :(

I wouldn't recommend growing in a place that you don't OWN.
Every knock on the door is like "uhhmmmm... who might that be!?"

Yes, the power bill will shoot up ;)

Ninpo whereabouts in Florida?

Edit- on topic:
I believe Icke said "It's not like I came up with all this while sitting in a dark room and smoking a weed."
I believe he was just saying that to not SOUND (to other people's conditioned perspectives) like his work wasn't credible.
The man ate mushrooms and drank ayahuasca, I don't think he has anything against nature (cannabis)...
Although he does prefer the drink...

Something I'll never understand, the preference for alcohol over cannabis. To each his own :)

[yeiayel]

what time your clock do?___________what time is it? no the forum time.

[yeiayel]

goodnight everyone

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

8:30 am here night mate!

[yeiayel]

2,22 in the night.

[irak]

ever wondered how and why marijuana got illegal? :)

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

[auron]

THE EMPEROR WEARS NO CLOTHES

by Jack Herer

Introduction
Preface
Foreword
Prologue

CHAPTER 1 - OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORY OF CANNABIS HEMP

Explanatory Notes
Cannabis Hemp
What’s in a Name?
American Historical Notes
World Historical Notes
Great Wars Were Fought
Why is Hemp So Important?
Footnotes
Peasants harvesting hemp

CHAPTER 2 - BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE USES OF HEMP

Ships & Sailors
Textiles & Fabrics
Paper
Rope, Twine, & Cordage
Art Canvas
Paints & Varnish
Lighting Oil
Biomass Energy
Medicine
Food Protein
Building Materials & Housing
Smoking, Leisure, & Creativity
Economic Stability, Profitability, & Free Trade
Plant Diagram
The Challenge
Footnotes
When Hemp Saved Bush
Ship Rigging
The Greenhouse Effect and the Bureaucrat
G.W. Schlichten and the Decordicator

CHAPTER 3 - NEW BILLION DOLLAR CROP

Popular mechanics
Mechanical Engineering
Kentucky Hemp Fields
The Many Uses of Hemp

CHAPTER 4 - THE LAST DAYS OF LEGAL CANNABIS

Breakthrough in Papermaking
A Plan to Save Our Forests
Conservation & Source Reduction
“Social Reorganization”
Hearst’s Disinformation
Bigotry & Apartheid
Marijuana Tax
“Did Anyone Ask the A.M.A.?”
Others Spoke Out
Protecting Special Interests
Self Perpetuating Lies
Bulletin 404
Man-Made Fiber
Roundup of Headlines

CHAPTER 5 - MARIJUANA PROHIBITION

Crushing Dissent
Pot & Threat of Peace
A Program of Control
Criminal Misconduct
The Bush/Quayle/Lilly Pharmaceutical Sell Out

CHAPTER 6 - MEDICAL LITERATURE ON CANNABIS MEDICINE

Affordable Health Care
19th Century
20th Century
Popular Acceptance
Asilomar Conference
Research Banned
DEA Judge Rules in Favor of Medical Marijuana
Pharmaceutical Companies
Fox & Chicken Coop
Undermining the Natural Competition
Poisoning the Third World
Rewriting History
They Call it CRAP

CHAPTER 7 - THERAPEUTIC USE OF CANNABIS

Asthma
Glaucoma
Tumors
Nausea/Cancer Chemotherapy
Epilepsy, Multiple Sclerosis, Back Pain & Spasms
Antibiotics & Antibacterial CBDs
Herpes, Cystic Fibrosis, Arthritis & Rheumatism
Expectorant
Sleep & Relaxation
Emphysema
Stress, Migraines
Appetite
Salivation
AIDS, Depression, Etc.
Acceptable Risks
One Man’s Determination
Compassionate Cannabis & Cruel Cops
Merck Manual
War on Drugs

CHAPTER 8 - HEMPSEED AS THE BASIC WORLD FOOD

Humanity’s Best Single Food Source
Spectre of World Wide Famine
Fundamental Link in the Food Chain
Hemp Seed Nutrition

CHAPTER 9 - ECONOMICS: ENERGY, ENVIRONMENT & COMMERCE

Energy & Economy
Clean Renewable Fuel
Biomass for Energy Abundance
Family Farms or Fossil Fuels
What’s the Catch
Energy Security
Free Enterprise, High Profit
Change in High Fashion
Sturdy Paper Products
Biodegradable Replacement for Plastic
Spin Off Trades & Taxes
Green Economy
Land & Soil Reclamation
Natural Guard
Henry Ford’s Biomass Car
World War II

CHAPTER 10 - MYTH, MAGIC & MEDICINE

What’s in a Name (2)
First Known Marijuana Users
2,300-1,000 B.C.E.
Hemp & Scythe
Thread of Civilization
Hemp to Enforce Law
Cannabis Herbal Medicine
Mystic Philosophers
Natural Mind
Cloaked in Secrecy
Judaic Line
What the Bible Says
Early Christianity
Holy Roman Empire
Church/State Aristocracy
Politics of Paper
Cannabis Medicines Banned
Legal Medieval Medicines
Contradictions
Yet Hemp Endured
Age of Enlightenment
Economic Model of Forfeiture Laws
Jefferson’s Comparison to Tobacco

CHAPTER 11 - THE (HEMP) WAR OF 1812, NAPOLEON AND RUSSIA

The untold story of hemp’s role in an important era of history from 1740 to 1815

CHAPTER 12 - CANNABIS DRUG USE IN 19TH CENTURY AMERICA

Marijuana Medicine
Literary Inspiration
Hashish Candy
Turkish Smoking Parlors
American as Apple Pie
The Smear

CHAPTER 13 - PREJUDICE AND JIM CROW LAWS

Smoking in America
Blackface
All That Jazz
Mexican Americans
South Africa
Remnants
Anslinger’s Hatred of Jazz

CHAPTER 14 - MORE THAN SIXTY YEARS OF REPRESSION

Factories, the Navy
Privacy is a Right
Urine Testing
Babe Ruth
Dividing Families
Surveillance & Seizures
UnAmerican Policies
Police, Secrets, & Blackmail
Public Humiliation
Feudal Law
Entrapment, Intolerance, Ignorance
PDFA
DARE
Media’s Stupor
Ongoing Injustice
LaRouche Against Rock
Paul McCartney/Band on the Run
Ultimate Hypocrisy

CHAPTER 15 - THE OFFICIAL STORY: DEBUNKING "GUTTER SCIENCE"

Wasting Time & Lives
Doublespeak
Brain Damage Reports
Lingering Effects
Lung Damage Reports
Radioactivity in Tobacco
Nahas’ Studies
& So On
Alcohol
Studies the Feds Don’t Talk About
Coptic Study
Jamaican Studies
Costa Rican Study
Amsterdam Model
Bush Strikes Again
Corruption/Carlton Turner

CHAPTER 16 - THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES

The Parable
Logical Analogy
Smithsonian’s Suppression of Facts
Truth & Consequences of Prohibition
High-Tech Repression
Wasting Our Tax Money
Double Standards
Policies of Ignorance
What is the Law?
Conclusion
What Justice Demands
What You Can Do

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[Anders Lindman]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?

He meant that taking pot that is not home-grown is not very smart. AIDS for example, is not caused by HIV. AIDS is caused by chemicals added to street drugs.

[cleft_asunder]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?

I hate to sound egoistic, but you are so n00b. You're like at square 1 of understanding the pot issue, which is where the sheep are.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

you are the second 666 poster i have seen this evening!

it's a fucking epidemic

No, not at all

[cruise4]

"pot makes you a lazy bastard"

"Not me. It just makes you not want to do what society wants you to do like work, slave at stupid jobs and shit."

No, nor me. I like doing things stoned. I find it hard to sit down and do nothing on it to be honest.

I gave up sugar in Tea for lent as a kid at catholic school. 40 days later I heaped a load into my cup and couldn't stand it. Since that day I don't take sugar.

" think if a person want to smoke he must smoke when he hasn't any responsability over other persons."

In general I agree with this statement, but people behave in very different ways. I have seen people who can't drive properly anymore on dope but others can drive better. This goes across the board with activities. One rule does not fit all. There's plenty of straights that are lethal to work with. No awareness or common sense at all.

"People don't knock old biddies over to steal their handbags because they want a sweet brew."

People don't knock old biddies over the head to get hold of drugs or money unless in a society that ensures this sort of thing will happen.
There's no need for this behaviour, but the system has to change as per usual. Its a fault of illegality for one.

"I bet if people had to pay more for their coffee, tea and sugar there would be riots in the streets of limeyland, yes."

I'd certainly rather give up fags than Tea!

"AIDS is caused by chemicals added to street drugs."

Got a source for this statement?

[thirdwave]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?

I have not really heard him state he does not like pot.... He has traveled abroad to do Ayahuasca which is stronger than any pot you can find...

But I don't think because someone is a pot head they are open minded or enlightened.... I have a friend who was addicted to pot (which any form of addiction closes your mind) and was far from enlightened.... you could say he was open minded... but was just so lazy he could sit in doors and the adverts on the TV would entertain him....

IMO lost of pot is pushed by the CIA and so on.... and I would not entirely trust it all to have come from mother earth.... its not as if you can read the label.

[dr_strangelove]

aaargh POT !

[spiraltrance]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?

Weed will not save humanity. Pot doesn't enlighten you though it expands your consciousness a little but only temporarily. It drains your body of energy and makes you docile.

[lydia78]

Why would Dave talk about Infinite Love but hate Weed??

I'm betting it's a non-issue.

[lydia78]

Weed will not save humanity. Pot doesn't enlighten you though it expands your consciousness a little but only temporarily. It drains your body of energy and makes you docile.

Speak for yourself......LOL!!:D

[eternal_spirit]

Why would Dave talk about Infinite Love but hate Weed??

I'm betting it's a non-issue.
.........

If he was pro weed, many would think it's the smoke that would make him delusional and would dismiss his ideas as that of a mad pothead.:(

David Shayler said " yes I smoke pot every day" or something like that. The interviewer then asked the question.."Doesn't that cause one to hallucanate"?
The reply " It may do,But not me...... I'm used to the effects" Sigh
:confused:

[dark86]

i used to smoke alot of weed and giving it up was one of the best things i did.

one word:

lethargic.



also ppl i know who smoke daily are just a little, hmm... slow and forgetful.

but hey, if it works for you no problem, but dont kid yourself and think its healthy in any way.

[synergy777]

he thinks weed is bad, its up to him. i'll take the rasta/hindu/sikh view as a useful medicinal herb, used in moderation. as for the masses, their opinion is that weed is bad, alcohol good, when lets be honest, most are shallow, materialistic, herd menatlity, serfs.

[Anders Lindman]

he thinks weed is bad, its up to him. i'll take the rasta/hindu/sikh view as a useful medicinal herb, used in moderation. as for the masses, their opinion is that weed is bad, alcohol good, when lets be honest, most are shallow, materialistic, herd menatlity, serfs.

But you can't compare street pot which is saturated by nasty chemicals, with clean undiluted pot. CIA is shooting itself in the foot.

[lydia78]

he thinks weed is bad, its up to him. i'll take the rasta/hindu/sikh view as a useful medicinal herb, used in moderation. as for the masses, their opinion is that weed is bad, alcohol good, when lets be honest, most are shallow, materialistic, herd menatlity, serfs.

:)

[synergy777]

first weed is collie. skunk is hydro, not weed but skunk. regular collie weed is what rastas/hindus/sikhs smoke, they don't smoke skunk. they smoke weed from the earth, organic. skunk is grown at an industrial rate, with hydrophonics, sunlamps, bio food etc. theres a huge difference between the organic/sunlight and the skunk/lamp/hydrophonic/greenhouse stuff.

[Anders Lindman]

first weed is collie. skunk is hydro, not weed but skunk. regular collie weed is what rastas/hindus/sikhs smoke, they don't smoke skunk. they smoke weed from the earth, organic. skunk is grown at an industrial rate, with hydrophonics, sunlamps, bio food etc. theres a huge difference between the organic/sunlight and the skunk/lamp/hydrophonic/greenhouse stuff.

Even bigger difference is weed with nasty chemicals in them, even if it's collie. It seems like marijuana substances are not laced with AIDS chemicals, but I wouldn't bet on it. Legalize it. But CIA wouldn't like that.

[cf24]

availablity is a prob, damn cops! always goes dry just after a bust-and then half of what they "confiscate" disappears...

i would chosse the taste of good hydies over crap bush, but good bush beats good hydies. iv managed to get organic like twice and only through friend of friends kind a thing, it's really rare these days, which is a shame. man that was some killa shit, and no after afects....
yeah u don't know what they put in shit these days! (or rather u DO know and that's why u avoid it! lol) like my mate who smoke the best shit he had ever had-and i mean the best, it was like half cone wonders- the ppl who grew it thought it would be a good idea to spray it-not only with hydro chemicals but also WD40! yay, another victory for vegitablism


I used to smoke anything that came my way, but these days im a bit fussy. If it dont look good enough, I just wont buy it, id rather go without. Im lucky enough to know someone to get organic from, which is an absolute delight. Most of the stuff doing the rounds is average at best, and whats with that glass weed shit. Pot dealers got no morals these days, well most of them....:mad:

[Anders Lindman]

I used to smoke anything that came my way, but these days im a bit fussy. If it dont look good enough, I just wont buy it, id rather go without. Im lucky enough to know someone to get organic from, which is an absolute delight. Most of the stuff doing the rounds is average at best, and whats with that glass weed shit. Pot dealers got no morals these days, well most of them....:mad:

Unfortunately you cannot spot chemicals in weed. Other than using your gut feeling/intuition. Or by using some advanced technical measuring equipment.

[synergy777]

you gotta have the right connect.

[lydia78]

I used to smoke anything that came my way, but these days im a bit fussy. If it dont look good enough, I just wont buy it, id rather go without. Im lucky enough to know someone to get organic from, which is an absolute delight. Most of the stuff doing the rounds is average at best, and whats with that glass weed shit. Pot dealers got no morals these days, well most of them....:mad:

Discernment is a must when buying!!

Some of the solid stuff I've seen about is pretty scary, plastic etc, all melted into the bar.....

Everyone should have a weed plant!!:)

[cf24]

Well I can taste the difference between a bud thats been grown using organic fertilizer and salt based. IMO the salt based fert which is the hydro food produces a harsher smoke and less taste. The bud also doesn't burn so well. Organic bud burns properly and are full of flavour......

Yummy.

[synergy777]

the emerald forest, lol

[lydia78]

Hahaha.....or everyone should have a field of weed:)

[cf24]

Hahaha.....or everyone should have a field of weed:)

But weed never get anything done....lol:D

[lydia78]

But weed never get anything done....lol:D

Well it's never stopped me from doing what i need to. :)

[cf24]

Well it's never stopped me from doing what i need to. :)

Can make me lazy, but thats a good thing sometimes. You gotta have your time to chill so you can disconnect from all the bullshit.....

Oh, and the laughter is a bonus too.:D

[synergy777]

weed is one of the things that opened me up to the this side of life, before that i was a full blown capitalist, young tory, gordon gecko, reading investors chronicle since 14. well i am still very good with money, you have to be, out of necessity/survival/responisbility. its about balance, the gecko with the guru, yin/yang lol.

[lydia78]

weed is one of the things that opened me up to the this side of life, before that i was a full blown capitalist, young tory, gordon gecko, reading investors chronicle since 14. well i am still very good with money, you have to be, out of necessity/survival/responisbility. its about balance, the gecko with the guru, yin/yang lol.


Which is exactly why Icky Baby, doesn't hate weed, or anything for that matter!!

You do what you must to wake up and as far as weed goes, it's not a bad place to begin!!:D

Tory hey......LOL, I identify!!LOL:D

[synergy777]

the brother drinks tennant super, and tells us not to blaze the fyah, work that one out.

a fello tory, lol telgraphh/times are still the most powerful/informative papers, i read the guardian for a bit, too wishy washy, the independant is good. but i think the telegraph carries the most weight/signals of elite policy. their stance on financial/military issues is always ahead of the curve and spot on.

[lydia78]

the brother drinks tennant super, and tells us not to blaze the fyah, work that one out.

a fello tory, lol telgraphh/times are still the most powerful/informative papers, i read the guardian for a bit, too wishy washy, the independant is good. but i think the telegraph carries the most weight/signals of elite policy. their stance on financial/military issues is always ahead of the curve and spot on.

Well, we are self confessed Geeks S777:D

[synergy777]

the geeks/meek shall inherit, lol

[yeiayel]

Unfortunately you cannot spot chemicals in weed. Other than using your gut feeling/intuition. Or by using some advanced technical measuring equipment.

Illegal gangia is dangerous because they add ammonia and chemicals.
Legal gangia must be under control to keep away this content. So ,it isn't dangerous . But perhaps is "they" don't want this happens.

[lydia78]

the geeks/meek shall inherit, lol

The weed fields!! LOL!!:D:D

[synergy777]

i'll have old trafford, lol

[yeiayel]

Some criminals spray ammonia on the foils to have a fast dehydrate.
The purpose is the trade and the money. They do this whidely i think.

[auron]

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[yeiayel]

In solid hascis they add glue.
there is a lot of difference between a good ganja and adulterated gangia.

someone give me alot of dud.

When the smoke is not good i get angry

[yeiayel]

weed is one of the things that opened me up to the this side of life, before that i was a full blown capitalist, young tory, gordon gecko, reading investors chronicle since 14. well i am still very good with money, you have to be, out of necessity/survival/responisbility. its about balance, the gecko with the guru, yin/yang lol.


If you look at the manual that speak about the mind control ganja is ban because using ganjia you can escape from mind controll

[sensimillia]

i´ll be receiving some maroccan pollen today, can´t wait...:D

[lydia78]

In solid hascis they add glue.
there is a lot of difference between a good ganja and adulterated gangia.

someone give me alot of dud.

When the smoke is not good i get angry

You and me both!!
Stick to the herb if your going to smoke and get a good contact!!:)

[yeiayel]

if you smoke a very good ganja you can see the matrix where most the people is.
I think is this motivation bad ganja is widely diffuse.

[soglad]

I smoke it kind of regularly. I might get a bit every month or two months or more. But I'm thinking about not doing it at all for a few simple reasons. Even though cannabis can make you see the matrix for what it is, doing anything about it while stoned is the problem. We can all see when stoned that the world is fucked and needs love, but what are you going to do stuck to a couch giggling at The Simpsons? A bit of an egotistical route again.

The quality and price of it these days is ridiculous too. I mean they put EVERYTHING in soap bar hash these days and they're SOOO toxic, and I see kids (no joke) going around my way smoking this shit and they're brain dead, psycho thugs. Cannabis although it can give me the will to see things in a different light, it's nothing I can't do with meditation and critical thinking/debating with my mates.

[yeiayel]

I report what the book say: *Cannabis(aka Marijuana, a sedative, change in perception, colors and sounds more distinct, time distorted. This drug is not used much in Monarch Programming because it IMPEDES mind control. It has been experimented with in combination with other drugs as an interrogation tool. The CIA listed it as being used in MK-Ultra, but it served as an experimental drug rather for programming.) (wheeler-Springmeier)

So: why Icke hate ganja?

[soglad]

I report what the book say: *Cannabis(aka Marijuana, a sedative, change in perception, colors and sounds more distinct, time distorted. This drug is not used much in Monarch Programming because it IMPEDES mind control. It has been experimented with in combination with other drugs as an interrogation tool. The CIA listed it as being used in MK-Ultra, but it served as an experimental drug rather for programming.) (wheeler-Springmeier)

So: why Icke hate ganja?

It doesn't expand consciousness. It's another thing to keep us in the matrix, although it gives us a small taste of what it's like without the matrix.

[yeiayel]

I smoke it kind of regularly. I might get a bit every month or two months or more. But I'm thinking about not doing it at all for a few simple reasons. Even though cannabis can make you see the matrix for what it is, doing anything about it while stoned is the problem. We can all see when stoned that the world is fucked and needs love, but what are you going to do stuck to a couch giggling at The Simpsons? A bit of an egotistical route again.

The quality and price of it these days is ridiculous too. I mean they put EVERYTHING in soap bar hash these days and they're SOOO toxic, and I see kids (no joke) going around my way smoking this shit and they're brain dead, psycho thugs. Cannabis although it can give me the will to see things in a different light, it's nothing I can't do with meditation and critical thinking/debating with my mates.

You are right.

You must have the ability to see the matrix before.

Sure, if someone is brain dead and he smoke he remains brain dead or worse

[synergy777]

weed helps you to feel empathy, compassion, a connection with others, nature etc.

weed and wine is a great buzz, in vino veritas!

[supertzar]

So many misconceptions about the herb. For starters, there is nothing unnatural about "skunk." Skunk #1 is a stable hybrid of three kinds of cannabis from around the world. You can grow it organically just as well as conventionally.

[soglad]

You are right.

You must have the ability to see the matrix before.

Sure, if someone is brain dead and he smoke he remains brain dead or worse

Yes, and therefore to the REALLY closed minded people, I would encourage cannabis or a hallucinogens, but after them some people can continually use/abuse them, fooling themselves they're on the right path, when it's long been time to fly on their own.

Seriously, the kids around here were born brain dead apes, now they're just becoming some kind of hyper breed, retard, brain dead, violent Gorillas.

These are the type of kids who shout abuse and throw things at you, just because you're walking down the road.

I've little sympathy for those kid's choices.

[lydia78]

I report what the book say: *Cannabis(aka Marijuana, a sedative, change in perception, colors and sounds more distinct, time distorted. This drug is not used much in Monarch Programming because it IMPEDES mind control. It has been experimented with in combination with other drugs as an interrogation tool. The CIA listed it as being used in MK-Ultra, but it served as an experimental drug rather for programming.) (wheeler-Springmeier)

So: why Icke hate ganja?



Dude.....Icke hates nobody, nothing, including ganja.......you don't talk infinite love and demonstrate the opposite!!

[yeiayel]

We are different persons with different effects.

Someone has more hard mind than another

[lydia78]

weed helps you to feel empathy, compassion, a connection with others, nature etc.

weed and wine is a great buzz, in vino veritas!

Weed and Wine sends me into greenout land....LOL...lightweights hey..lol:D

[yeiayel]

Dude.....Icke hates nobody, nothing, including ganja.......you don't talk infinite love and demonstrate the opposite!!

Icke is wrong! we must hate criminals give us bad ganja add with glue if we want to stop this.

[supertzar]

What is the exact quote in context? I'm thinking he is defending himself from the perception that he is always out of his mind on drugs.

[yeiayel]

A person who see a criminal act (in general) and do not get angry. (and hate)
do the trick of the criminals! I do not call this love.

[lydia78]

Icke is wrong! we must hate criminals give us bad ganja add with glue if we want to stop this.

Hate.

The polarised opposite to love.

Icke speaks about and explains of the potentials happening all around us, but his end message is one of Love.

This is why I state, icke does not hate herb, why would he?

Dealers who are ripping people off, well that's down to personal discernment.

You don't have to buy anything you don't want, therefore eliminating the Hate principal.

Even crims have they're reasons for selling crappy solid.

It's simple, just don't buy it off them.

[yeiayel]

Apathy if you want. Apathy is not infinite love

[lydia78]

Apathy if you want. Apathy is not infinite love

I agree with you.

[yeiayel]

Hate.

The polarised opposite to love.

Icke speaks about and explains of the potentials happening all around us, but his end message is one of Love.

This is why I state, icke does not hate herb, why would he?

Dealers who are ripping people off, well that's down to personal discernment.

You don't have to buy anything you don't want, therefore eliminating the Hate principal.

Even crims have they're reasons for selling crappy solid.

It's simple, just don't buy it off them.

Do not mix up apathy and love_______________ Indifference is our beast

[lydia78]

Do not mix up apathy and love_______________ Indifference is our beast

I wasn't talking about apathy, I was talking about personal discernment when buying dodgy weed.

It's your call.

You don't have to buy.

I'm not going to hate someone for selling below average solid.

Doesn't mean I agree with it though.

You bought up apathy, which is a whole different thing altogether.

[yeiayel]

ok ok can explain to me how is possible existence of love if do not exist hate?

[yeiayel]

Maybe infinite love include the hate?

[ninpo]

Seriously, the kids around here were born brain dead apes, now they're just becoming some kind of hyper breed, retard, brain dead, violent Gorillas.


Yes, exactly how I feel about you mods. Thanks for pointing this out about yourselves.

[soglad]

Yes, exactly how I feel about you mods. Thanks for pointing this out about yourselves.

Completely unnecessary ninpo. I hope your stay here was nice.

[yeiayel]

I agree with you soglad

[Anders Lindman]

you gotta have the right connect.

CIA is running the whole illegal drug show. Unless you have direct access to the manufacturer. But then you have to be really high up in the drug traffic pyramid.

[unique one]

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Introduction
Preface
Foreword
Prologue

CHAPTER 1 - OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORY OF CANNABIS HEMP

Explanatory Notes
Cannabis Hemp
What’s in a Name?
American Historical Notes
World Historical Notes
Great Wars Were Fought
Why is Hemp So Important?
Footnotes
Peasants harvesting hemp

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Textiles & Fabrics
Paper
Rope, Twine, & Cordage
Art Canvas
Paints & Varnish
Lighting Oil
Biomass Energy
Medicine
Food Protein
Building Materials & Housing
Smoking, Leisure, & Creativity
Economic Stability, Profitability, & Free Trade
Plant Diagram
The Challenge
Footnotes
When Hemp Saved Bush
Ship Rigging
The Greenhouse Effect and the Bureaucrat
G.W. Schlichten and the Decordicator

CHAPTER 3 - NEW BILLION DOLLAR CROP

Popular mechanics
Mechanical Engineering
Kentucky Hemp Fields
The Many Uses of Hemp

CHAPTER 4 - THE LAST DAYS OF LEGAL CANNABIS

Breakthrough in Papermaking
A Plan to Save Our Forests
Conservation & Source Reduction
“Social Reorganization”
Hearst’s Disinformation
Bigotry & Apartheid
Marijuana Tax
“Did Anyone Ask the A.M.A.?”
Others Spoke Out
Protecting Special Interests
Self Perpetuating Lies
Bulletin 404
Man-Made Fiber
Roundup of Headlines

CHAPTER 5 - MARIJUANA PROHIBITION

Crushing Dissent
Pot & Threat of Peace
A Program of Control
Criminal Misconduct
The Bush/Quayle/Lilly Pharmaceutical Sell Out

CHAPTER 6 - MEDICAL LITERATURE ON CANNABIS MEDICINE

Affordable Health Care
19th Century
20th Century
Popular Acceptance
Asilomar Conference
Research Banned
DEA Judge Rules in Favor of Medical Marijuana
Pharmaceutical Companies
Fox & Chicken Coop
Undermining the Natural Competition
Poisoning the Third World
Rewriting History
They Call it CRAP

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Asthma
Glaucoma
Tumors
Nausea/Cancer Chemotherapy
Epilepsy, Multiple Sclerosis, Back Pain & Spasms
Antibiotics & Antibacterial CBDs
Herpes, Cystic Fibrosis, Arthritis & Rheumatism
Expectorant
Sleep & Relaxation
Emphysema
Stress, Migraines
Appetite
Salivation
AIDS, Depression, Etc.
Acceptable Risks
One Man’s Determination
Compassionate Cannabis & Cruel Cops
Merck Manual
War on Drugs

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Humanity’s Best Single Food Source
Spectre of World Wide Famine
Fundamental Link in the Food Chain
Hemp Seed Nutrition

CHAPTER 9 - ECONOMICS: ENERGY, ENVIRONMENT & COMMERCE

Energy & Economy
Clean Renewable Fuel
Biomass for Energy Abundance
Family Farms or Fossil Fuels
What’s the Catch
Energy Security
Free Enterprise, High Profit
Change in High Fashion
Sturdy Paper Products
Biodegradable Replacement for Plastic
Spin Off Trades & Taxes
Green Economy
Land & Soil Reclamation
Natural Guard
Henry Ford’s Biomass Car
World War II

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What’s in a Name (2)
First Known Marijuana Users
2,300-1,000 B.C.E.
Hemp & Scythe
Thread of Civilization
Hemp to Enforce Law
Cannabis Herbal Medicine
Mystic Philosophers
Natural Mind
Cloaked in Secrecy
Judaic Line
What the Bible Says
Early Christianity
Holy Roman Empire
Church/State Aristocracy
Politics of Paper
Cannabis Medicines Banned
Legal Medieval Medicines
Contradictions
Yet Hemp Endured
Age of Enlightenment
Economic Model of Forfeiture Laws
Jefferson’s Comparison to Tobacco

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The untold story of hemp’s role in an important era of history from 1740 to 1815

CHAPTER 12 - CANNABIS DRUG USE IN 19TH CENTURY AMERICA

Marijuana Medicine
Literary Inspiration
Hashish Candy
Turkish Smoking Parlors
American as Apple Pie
The Smear

CHAPTER 13 - PREJUDICE AND JIM CROW LAWS

Smoking in America
Blackface
All That Jazz
Mexican Americans
South Africa
Remnants
Anslinger’s Hatred of Jazz

CHAPTER 14 - MORE THAN SIXTY YEARS OF REPRESSION

Factories, the Navy
Privacy is a Right
Urine Testing
Babe Ruth
Dividing Families
Surveillance & Seizures
UnAmerican Policies
Police, Secrets, & Blackmail
Public Humiliation
Feudal Law
Entrapment, Intolerance, Ignorance
PDFA
DARE
Media’s Stupor
Ongoing Injustice
LaRouche Against Rock
Paul McCartney/Band on the Run
Ultimate Hypocrisy

CHAPTER 15 - THE OFFICIAL STORY: DEBUNKING "GUTTER SCIENCE"

Wasting Time & Lives
Doublespeak
Brain Damage Reports
Lingering Effects
Lung Damage Reports
Radioactivity in Tobacco
Nahas’ Studies
& So On
Alcohol
Studies the Feds Don’t Talk About
Coptic Study
Jamaican Studies
Costa Rican Study
Amsterdam Model
Bush Strikes Again
Corruption/Carlton Turner

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The Parable
Logical Analogy
Smithsonian’s Suppression of Facts
Truth & Consequences of Prohibition
High-Tech Repression
Wasting Our Tax Money
Double Standards
Policies of Ignorance
What is the Law?
Conclusion
What Justice Demands
What You Can Do

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[supertzar]

CIA is running the whole illegal drug show. Unless you have direct access to the manufacturer. But then you have to be really high up in the drug traffic pyramid.

You are aware that probably millions of people in North America alone grow their own pot, right Anders? Don't get carried away.

[supertzar]

Everyone should read The Emperor Wears No Clothes. It will help any person to understand the 20th century regardless of their interest in cannabis.

[Anders Lindman]

You are aware that probably millions of people in North America alone grow their own pot, right Anders? Don't get carried away.

That's what mass media want you to believe.

Here is a video about the CIA:

CIA, Drugs and The US Economy - YouTube

[supertzar]

That's what mass media want you to believe.

Please tell me you are not serious.

[supertzar]

I mean WTF?

[Anders Lindman]

Please tell me you are not serious.

There may be an increase in home-grown pot, but the CIA will not allow that increase to become significant. Hence scare tactics against home-grown pot.

From the video: "Based on 2003 figures, drug trafficking constitutes the 3rd biggest cash commodity after oil and the arms trade."

[supertzar]

Why is it the biggest cash crop in many states? Because a shitload of people grow it. It's not the CIA growing domestic pot. At least not that I have ever heard of. They import it, I'm sure, but it's not nearly as profitable/practical as importing coke and heroin. That's where the real trafficking $$$ is.

[Anders Lindman]

It's not the CIA growing domestic pot.

Not growing it. Controlling it. U.S. domestic pot is a whole industry controlled by the CIA.

Michael Ruppert confronts CIA director about Drug Laundering - YouTube

[sensimillia]

i strongly doubt that CIA, illuminati, or whatever you wanna call them mix glue and whatever in hasch. maybe it has happened, but you have to realize the quantetis of hasch that is produced. here in sweden theres mostly hasch, and i can say i have never encountered something like that during my 15 years of smoking. are we a little paranoid?;)

[lydia78]

i strongly doubt that CIA, illuminati, or whatever you wanna call them mix glue and whatever in hasch. maybe it has happened, but you have to realize the quantetis of hasch that is produced. here in sweden theres mostly hasch, and i can say i have never encountered something like that during my 15 years of smoking. are we a little paranoid?;)

Nope, sparking up a well deserved cheech&chong, right now. :D

[sensimillia]

Nope, sparking up a well deserved cheech&chong, right now. :D

wonderfull:D

[soglad]

are we a little paranoid?;)

Nope, I have a LOT of experience with dealers and how they make the mix here in Ireland and I can tell you, Ireland gets the WORST quality blow due to its location. It gets handed to so many different people, who bulk it up with shit and pass it on. Trust me, blow over here is toxic beyond belief.

[Anders Lindman]

i strongly doubt that CIA, illuminati, or whatever you wanna call them mix glue and whatever in hasch. maybe it has happened, but you have to realize the quantetis of hasch that is produced. here in sweden theres mostly hasch, and i can say i have never encountered something like that during my 15 years of smoking. are we a little paranoid?;)

Pot is probably relatively safe. Much nastier is this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916

But if they can tamper with other drugs, pot could become a future potential target.

[28th kingdom]

I saw in one of his videos he was making fun of pot heads, or saying "it's not like I am some refer addict" or something along those lines.

As a professional pothead, I was taken back by that comment.

Isn't he being a little politically correct against the only weed that can save humanity?

I don't smoke weed or do any other drugs... but that post right there deserves an award.

"Only weed that can save humanity..."

I love potheads. :D

[lydia78]

wonderfull:D

Sending out the incorruptible stoner vibes to y'all......LOL:D

[sensimillia]

Trust me, blow over here is toxic beyond belief.


blow? are we talking about cocaine? i know cocaine get mixed out, but that is only to increase profits, no conspiracy...

[supertzar]

Not growing it. Controlling it. U.S. domestic pot is a whole industry controlled by the CIA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t3pl5Wxgyg

Why would growers sell to the CIA? I don't know where you get these ideas. Is it in your video clip? I can't watch it at the moment.

[Anders Lindman]

Why would growers sell to the CIA? I don't know where you get these ideas. Is it in your video clip? I can't watch it at the moment.

My speculation was that big interests are controlling all major drug sources. In one of the videos they talk about the "man behind the curtain". Illicit drugs is big, big money. The big psychopaths at the top of the power pyramid don't let small-time criminals run the huge drug market. Very, very big power interests, going straight up to the top of the pyramid, are involved in this. Not least the banking elite.

[supertzar]

People grow quantities of pot because they need money. Then they sell it to a middle man who sells it either to another middle man or to a customer. That is not speculation. It's a fact. I would be shocked to find that a large percentage of this pot is somehow controlled by the CIA.

[Anders Lindman]

People grow quantities of pot because they need money. Then they sell it to a middle man who sells it either to another middle man or to a customer. That is not speculation. It's a fact. I would be shocked to find that a large percentage of this pot is somehow controlled by the CIA.

We should not underestimate the hierarchical structure of power. Organized crime is particularly hierarchical. The big players don't just willy nilly leave the 3rd biggest industry in the world alone. If someone would try to grab some of the drug market on their own, then they would be crushed very quickly.

[supertzar]

That doesn't make sense when it comes to domestic pot, Anders. How exactly does the CIA "control" all this pot grown by regular guys? I have never heard anything about it and you don't seem to have any information on it. You are just saying what you "think" and that is the extent of it.

"NO one could POSSIBLY grow MARIJUANA and get it to the market without being utterly DESTROYED by the POWERS THAT BE!!! It's just not possible to DO that sort of thing and GET AWAY with it!"

[lydia78]

This is a quite a good article about why the nwo doesn't want you having a smoke....maybe because it's telling me what i want to hear...LOL:D


http://www.rense.com/general39/refer.htm

[supertzar]

The Iceman found in l997 in the Swiss-Italian Alps of Europe was found to be wearing hemp clothing that had survived 7000 years of ice. Marked and tattooed the Iceman is now believed to have been a Holy man or Shaman because among the many things he carried with him was pharmaceutical quality marijuana in a pouch among the many herbs he carried. This was astounding in itself, but the clothing is the oldest ever found and was woven hemp.

Mindblowing. I knew he had hemp clothes, but did not know about the herb he carried.

[Anders Lindman]

That doesn't make sense when it comes to domestic pot, Anders. How exactly does the CIA "control" all this pot grown by regular guys? I have never heard anything about it and you don't seem to have any information on it. You are just saying what you "think" and that is the extent of it.

I just wouldn't recommend people to run their own drug business. It's not so peachy as it appear on the surface. As a customer you are very safe, but as soon as profit is involved you will have all the sharks come swimming in from all directions!

[baron von lotsov]

Weed makes you a lazy bastard.

I wish I could smoke for ever and ever but I can't..

I've a job to hold down.

Shit! Lucky you... spark up a fatty for me!



I can't do my job unless I'm stoned. I program computers and I just can't focus my mind sufficiently to do it when straight. It's to do with having it all in your head at once and I tend to use physical analogues of what I'm working on, like I have to visualise the system. When I'm stoned I can do this far more easily and as for being lazy, well the opposite is true. I can work for more than 12 hours non-stop around the clock for days when I have something particularly tricky to get working. I just stock up on weed and food and go for it. I pull the phone socket out of the wall as well.

[supertzar]

I just wouldn't recommend people to run their own drug business. It's not so peachy as it appear on the surface. As a customer you are very safe, but as soon as profit is involved you will have all the sharks come swimming in from all directions!

That is an opinion I have no objection to.

[spiraltrance]

Speak for yourself......LOL!!:D

I am speaking for myself. I use to smoke it heavily on a daily basis. If you really want mind expansion the artificial and temporary way then mushrooms are the best way to go. Weed is to psychologicaly addictive to be useful and doesn't have enough kick to it to open you to the other dimensions.

[soglad]

Weed is to psychologicaly addictive to be useful and doesn't have enough kick to it to open you to the other dimensions.

This is true. I've got a few friends who will even admit to that.

[earthseed]

Hmm I don't think pot people really get much done but chillin and eating snacks. David probably thinks you should use drugs only when necessary to help your awareness along when you need it. Not use them to round off a meal. He has a right to not want it for himself like you have a right to need it like water. That's life.

[albie]

Dope Makes me want to swallow my own tongue.

Kitchen wall!

So I gave it up.

[lydia78]

Fuck Off Mavis

[synergy777]

coke is the most mixed drug, i know from first hand, my amigos use to cook it. it gets fucked from the field, before its transpoted. they mix it with chemicals, to stop detection and it going bad. then when you get the brick, you cut it with baking soda, glucose etc than sell it on. the best shit is peruvian/fishscale, thats the chivas whiskey shit, lol.

all drugs are suspect to corruption, from alocohol, tobacco, weed, etc. they put loads of chemcials in beer, to make it ferment quicker, in industrial sized barrels. just know you product, get a good connect.

[revolution 9]

Hmm I don't think pot people really get much done but chillin and eating snacks.

Aside from the various pot smokers who own their own houses, have kids, go to work every day, etc, yeah, all just a bunch of lazy bums.

[eat_a_grey]

I am not sure I actually ever heard Dave say he hates pot?

Can someone tell me where he said this at?

Mind you I am not wanting to cause shit about this,I just want to know so I can read it/hear him say it so I can dissect what he is saying.

I cant speculate on what he said,or why he said it,its just a context thing you dig?

Personally,hell yeah,I self medicate with pot all the time.Pot is a hell of a lot better than the fucking dope that the shrinks were trying to kill me off with.

Dont get me wrong here,I usually dont smoke pot 24/7 but in the evenings when the lights go down,damn right I fire up a doobie now and then,relax and it really helps me unwind.

I am lucky enough to live in a state that allows medical marijuana,and from what I understand is that some of the ailments that 'they' say I have,I can get it,I just dont know a doctor in my area that will prescribe it to me.

[synergy777]

they should make pot legal, tax it. they should give pot free to those with medical problems. look at the how the fascist treat the grannies who use pot for their ailments.

[whitelightrabbit]

I don't smoke weed or do any other drugs... but that post right there deserves an award.

"Only weed that can save humanity..."

I love potheads. :D

i love you too.

the fact is, cannabis CAN save humanity. it is the most amazing plant on earth IMO. it's versatile! nutritionally complete, the longest strongest natural fibre known to man, does not require pesticides, provides oil and fuel (renewable and combats pollutants burning the oil cause), and powerful medicine. look into it, read 'the emperor wears no clothes' by jack herer.

edit: link: http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html (free, online reference, the entire book!)

ps jack herer has a $100,000 challenge for anyone who can prove that cannabis can't save the world.

[sentient]

I don't advocate it, either. I think it should be legal, but I also think it should be less available. I've known too many people who let it run their lives.

I smoke cigarettes, and I do so by choice. It was an experience I enjoyed, and so I continue to do so. Plus, my understanding of the nature of reality works as an immunity from its famous long-term effects. An illusion can't effect another illusion unless you believe it can. ;)

If someone doesn't want me to smoke around them because their reality dictates that they are allergic to it or annoyed by it, then out of respect I'll not smoke. With potsmokers, on the other hand, that's normally not the case. They will prefer to smoke out alone than have your company. If you're not bothered by it, sure, they'll hang out. But if you are, well, then they'd rather just not be around you so they can have their fix and you can be happy by not being around it.

If there are exceptions to this, then let it be so. I don't care if anyone smokes it, but I will care if it interferes with a friendship. It's certainly my choice to be bothered by it, just as it is their choice to let a drug become more of a friend than another human being.

Other reasons why I don't like it: The smell annoys me, and after smoking it myself I knew it wasn't for me due to the whole "stoned" effect. I hated it. It also has a tendency to slow down reaction time and cognition, and I don't like interacting with people who are on such a low level of consciousness. I don't even understand why they call it being "high", because you're far from it.

My choice drug as a teen was acid, and I used it for intellectual purposes. I doubt I'll ever do it again, though.

As I mentioned in a different thread, I know a girl here in WA that I think is awesome. She's a truthseeker and is very open-minded to things like quantum physics. I'd love to hang out with her, but she smokes pot quite a bit. She's even admitted to me that when she thinks about hanging out with me, she's usually high, and she knows I don't like that. So instead of NOT smoking for a day, she just never makes an attempt to hang out. It's sad, really.

[chris]

People shouldn't try to legalise it by being willing to pay taxes as an incentive for the politicians. Politicians should keep their horrible smeggy hands off my money.

It may hurt or help the individual, it's their choice.

Its a freaking herb.

Hemp is one of the finest crops in the world.

The drug industry and crime that goes along with it is only here because its illegal.

Banks would go under or declare their earnings if they legalised drugs.

Wars around the 3rd world will stop without the drug industry.

[auron]

Bingo! :)

[whitelightrabbit]

As I mentioned in a different thread, I know a girl here in WA that I think is awesome. She's a truthseeker and is very open-minded to things like quantum physics. I'd love to hang out with her, but she smokes pot quite a bit. She's even admitted to me that when she thinks about hanging out with me, she's usually high, and she knows I don't like that. So instead of NOT smoking for a day, she just never makes an attempt to hang out. It's sad, really.

sentient, do you see the hypocricy there?

[sentient]

sentient, do you see the hypocricy there?

No, I don't.

[rasnalgoul]

I dont know about all you people, but when I smoke I get really far out there. Many friends have told me I must be getting way higher than everyone else and bhindi warrior on that forum has seconded that. When I get high though I constantly think critically, I dont just loaf around and munch. I can fight the muchies. I think it depends on how you going into the situation. When I smoke I like sit around a bon fire with a few friends. We smoke and then just talk and tell what we are experiencing. I think you just need to stay away from the crappy stuff, and go into it expecting to learn. Well in my area there is alot of homegrown so Im lucky in that aspect.

[synergy777]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe-weed

Smoke on the Shire

Smoke on the Shire - YouTube

[thirdwave]

smoke chills me out in some cases but it also makes me feel vulnerable... so don't do it much nowadays

[lydia78]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe-weed

Smoke on the Shire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZmvgawPf7E&mode=related&search=

ROFL:D

Gonna go get me a hobbit!

[synergy777]

it magnifies existing anxieties, hence do it sparingly, its down to personal tolerance. like most things, it has good/bad qualities.

[synergy777]

watching it on ch4, whilst doing this. cheers for the pms/links, will correspond in 2/3 days, cheers. i would like a hobbit house, but with the latest gadgets, i love me gadgets, get the bang and olufsen/bose/plasma and alienware pcs.

[lydia78]

watching it on ch4, whilst doing this. cheers for the pms/links, will correspond in 2/3 days, cheers. i would like a hobbit house, but with the latest gadgets, i love me gadgets, get the bang and olufsen/bose/plasma and alienware pcs.

you just wanna be gandalf!!lol:D:D

[synergy777]

gandalf with a little bit of gordon gekko, lol gandalf is my fave, then aragon. i like merlin aswell, more than arthur. gandalf/aragon, merlin/arthur.

[lydia78]

gandalf with a little bit of gordon gekko, lol gandalf is my fave, then aragon. i like merlin aswell, more than arthur. gandalf/aragon, merlin/arthur.

lol.. you know it, you should go down to st nectars glen and the caves/castle tintagel, boscastle...seriously, you'll love it there man:)

and dont forget your smoke;)

[synergy777]

i keep my smoke to weekends now, after coming back in after going to pubs/clubs. i would love to go to the place, merlins cave etc. the place i like, have dreams about is hill of tara, thats the one place i want to go. i went to scotland earlier this year, loch lomond, loch ness, ben nevis, fort william. although i think loch lomond is far better than loch ness, loch lomond is breathtaking. the highlands are awesome, great drive, we we went on 4 day stagnight/sight seeing weekend with lads, enjoyed many a fine single malt, lol.

[lydia78]

i keep my smoke to weekends now, after coming back in after going to pubs/clubs. i would love to go to the place, merlins cave etc. the place i like, have dreams about is hill of tara, thats the one place i want to go. i went to scotland earlier this year, loch lomond, loch ness, ben nevis, fort william. although i think loch lomond is far better than loch ness, loch lomond is breathtaking. the highlands are awesome, great drive, we we went on 4 day stagnight/sight seeing weekend with lads, enjoyed many a fine single malt, lol.

Loch lomond, :)
used to live up that way a few yrs back when I worked in glasgow....amazing place...but the malt is for the brave lol:)

i'll stick with me herbal:)

Tintagel is something else though!!

[synergy777]

use to live up there, awesome. i like the hill of tara, its a pivotal place.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

Hahaha.....or everyone should have a field of weed


My dream is to have my own island...i think i need to go to rehad...or reHERB

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

ganja has great medicinal uses.

When i was treatingm y mum's thyroid cancer i used it as a mthod of not being tired(like so ic could keep working without feeling like I was using all my energy)-ganja keep ur energy field movving and prevents stagnation-and therefor pain and sickness. I was able to do much, much longer energy work with it for my mum, so fuck what the cops say-they smoke it too...


It is pretty scary what people do to smoke, why change it if u want a better high go start a heroine addiction- you can say good vuy to ur soul though....once someone isn't satisfied with teh high, that's when the problems start they needs something stronger, but i suggest in that kinda of situation that they are abusing weed not using it.

[sentient]

Hahaha.....or everyone should have a field of weed

I'll pass on that.

[cf24]

ganja has great medicinal uses.

When i was treatingm y mum's thyroid cancer i used it as a mthod of not being tired(like so ic could keep working without feeling like I was using all my energy)-ganja keep ur energy field movving and prevents stagnation-and therefor pain and sickness. I was able to do much, much longer energy work with it for my mum, so fuck what the cops say-they smoke it too...


It is pretty scary what people do to smoke, why change it if u want a better high go start a heroine addiction- you can say good vuy to ur soul though....once someone isn't satisfied with teh high, that's when the problems start they needs something stronger, but i suggest in that kinda of situation that they are abusing weed not using it.

Vaporizing is the way to go with it these days, as it cuts out 90% of the carcinogens. Way better high too with no tobacco to boot. I do love a spliff though....:D

[auron]

I'll pass on that.
I wont! :D

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Felicitations!:

cf24: This 'vaporization' of Keneh-Bas intriques me, as I was unaware of this process. For Scientific Research Purposes only, can anyone share some knowledge of this process.

My gratitude in advance, Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[cf24]

Well my first go on a vaporizer was years ago in 'the dam'. They got this huge glass one in the Hemp museum. Wondering what it was, as it was obviously a device to get smashed on I fancied a go. This fella had a kind of paint stripping gun which he heated up and aimed into the chamber which heated the weed up to a certain temperature so that it releases the vapour, but very little smoke. The result is that you hardly realize you have taken a lung full of thc until you blow out a kind of vapour/smoke. Needless to say, I walked out of there with a big smile on my face, or rather, shitfaced and went in search of a vaporizer immediately. The commercial devices available then were pretty crap, so I bought one and threw it away after a while, but there are some excellent ones out now.

Don't go for a cheap one, you'll be wasting your money. Think of it as an investment in your health!

The Volcano is the Rolls Royce, but Vapir make decent ones too....

http://www.maps.org/mmj/volcano.jpg

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations:

Far Out....Man!

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/marijuanahippies.jpg

[notaslave]

Maybe he took a whitey

[sentient]

A cigarette smoker can go his entire life never coughing up a lung, but pot smokers always seem to have hacking fits. So maybe cigs are more unhealthy, but pot smoking is just disgusting. Everyone should be free to do what they want, but I think pot a neanderthal drug.

[cf24]

A cigarette smoker can go his entire life never coughing up a lung, but pot smokers always seem to have hacking fits. So maybe cigs are more unhealthy, but pot smoking is just disgusting. Everyone should be free to do what they want, but I think pot a neanderthal drug.

Whats neanderthal about it?

[synergy777]

what do you know about neanderthals, they had a bigger brain capacity, lol they were stronger, fitter and from studies, more compassionate to animals/nature.

[jologriffiths]

this thread just caught my eye...
haven't been here for a while....

I don't think the original thread is fair, it indicates hatred from David, something which I have never really felt from him, even about prats like Mr. Bush, sounds to me like he's had very little experience of the herb.

Did you know that 'ganga' opens up the chakras and if used with respect will give you access to your truth?
The respect part is the tricky bit, smoking it with tobacco is a definate no no, tobacco especially from manufactured cigs will give you a very distorted experience of 'ganga' allowing negative, destructive energies to enter your being: paranoia, aggression and fear.
The papers used to roll it are also laced with nasty addictive chemicals which should be avoided.
In public there are many negative energies attached to people, if you are open and in a vulnerable state you will be very sensitive to these bad vibes, so it is best to experience this change of consciousness in a safe environment unless you know how to handle it.
It is a sacred consciousness changing herb which has to be handled with care, obviously it has been well abused and not good for everyone especially in this crazy place...

One Love

I LOVE YOU
THANK YOU

[synergy777]

best way is bong/chalice, or a blunt, lol

[cf24]

best way is bong/chalice, or a blunt, lol

Knows it.....:D

[sentient]

Whats neanderthal about it?

Are you not willing to understand the opposing viewpoint?

[cf24]

Of course, I just asked whats Neanderthal about it?

[supertzar]

It sounds like cf24 wants to understand your viewpoint, sentient. Cannabis enhances any aesthetic experience for me so I would characterize it as an evolutionary agent, the opposite of your caveman implication.

[sentient]

It sounds like cf24 wants to understand your viewpoint, sentient. Cannabis enhances any aesthetic experience for me so I would characterize it as an evolutionary agent, the opposite of your caveman implication.

I think if anything is an evolutionary agent it would be psilocybin mushrooms, ayahuasca, or salvia. Even LSD has had mind-enhancing effects. I've smoked pot, and I don't see how it is at all beneficial except maybe for pain relief or as a sleep aid.

If your intention is mature, then go for it. I just cannot stand the stoner mentality, and how weed has damaged friendships and relationships due to the users [i]need to be "high". This pot culture that has spawned is pathetic. If you were to ask most potheads why they smoke, I guarantee you they're not thinking about spiritual evolution. They're thinking "I just like gettin stoned, knowm'sayin?"

And these anti-pot ads like Above The Influence have no serious message about them. It just gives the stoner something to laugh at. I see that as media's reverse psychology to keep kids smoking and distracted from serious issues.

Those of you here, of course, aren't distracted, and that sets you apart. Nonetheless, I still don't think pot has any real benefits.