Super health through body-mind control

[Anders Lindman]

I have a hypothesis that by using the mind to make it integrated with the body we can achieve remarkable health, such as:

* Reversing the aging of the body
* Removing all diseases
* Make body and mind free from negative stress
* Make the body fit without the need for repetitive physical exercise
* Improve body posture and physical appearance
* Establish a sound foundation for healthy emotions
* Improve the mind's ability to think
* Improve our physical senses

[chad]

Care to elaborate?

[Anders Lindman]

Care to elaborate?

Bruce Lipton has talked about how our beliefs affect our biology. What if he is correct? What if it's our beliefs that make us sick?

To test this, the first thing would then be to change one's beliefs. It's not just an intellectual thing. Most of the mental programs are in the subconscious, and those programs must be altered too.

How to change beliefs down to the deeper levels? One practice to use may be Eckhart Tolle's body awareness technique, which is simply about putting awareness inside of the body, in combination with thoughts about changing one's beliefs. And not be afraid of the great doubt and confusion that will bring initially.

[clozaril]

here is the nlp belief change technique

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSTLXnOcjDk&feature=PlayList&p=4D8C6E401C467F51&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14


eft technique if you change the dialogue and insert your own but follow along on the tapping points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsW7EC9xvM&feature=channel

[mark1963]

Agree with your posts. There is also a very powerful technique called the sedona method, which enables you to just let go of the emotions you are having including the ego. Therefore you decide whether to use it or not.

It's incredible, I have been using it for some weeks now with incredible results.

Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrT3xBoF6Wk

[Anders Lindman]

Another technique for changing beliefs is Byron Katie's The Work.

I don't know the complete technique, but the simple version is to question a belief and ask oneself: "Am I sure that it's true? Am I ABSOLUTELY sure it's true?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzJlHg9Lc9k

[drooh]

If only.

If only I could utilise some sort of mental power to transmute the muscularity of my body from saggy to Mens Health Cover model shape I'd be happy.

We all would.

No more gym fees, no more money spent on sports clothing, no more time spent on exercising. Everyone looking their absolute physical best ALL the time.

And aging well, not physically degrading etc.

I agree to a point you can use NLP techniques and stuff to 'program' yourself into certain behaviours and then achieve physical exercise results more swiftly due to having a more conducive mindset, though I don't agree you can use your mind to physically alter your body in a fashion akin to the waving of a hand and uttering a magic word.

Then presto, killer abs and ripped body, 8 percent body fat...

[Anders Lindman]

No more gym fees, no more money spent on sports clothing, no more time spent on exercising. Everyone looking their absolute physical best ALL the time.


I think we need to do actual physical exercise to train the body (at least, that's probably a faster way to learn than only using visualization). What I question is necessity of the constant and mechanical repetition that is the current belief today.

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylmwoJDYGjk

[danceswithbunnies]

Check out Eugene Gendlin's work or his student Anne Weiser on Focussing Anders..using somatic awareness and somatic experiencing..

The body stores alot of unconscious material and you may be able to change the unconscious beliefs by somatic experiencing.
(Somatic experiencing is a whole new area i am exploring for trauma treatment...unreleased trauma stores nervous energy in the body which can cause disease)

[Anders Lindman]

Check out Eugene Gendlin's work or his student Anne Weiser on Focussing Anders..using somatic awareness and somatic experiencing..

The body stores alot of unconscious material and you may be able to change the unconscious beliefs by somatic experiencing.
(Somatic experiencing is a whole new area i am exploring for trauma treatment...unreleased trauma stores nervous energy in the body which can cause disease)

I'm watching a video now with Eugene Gendlin and he talks about how the body level is deeper than thoughts and emotions, although they are connected. Something like that. I think he has a point there. And that's why Eckhart Tolle talks about the importance of inner body awareness. We are so used to staying almost only 'in the head' without any deeper grounding inside the body. So it's no wonder why we have so much diseases. We have a severe disconnect between body and mind.

[danceswithbunnies]

I'm watching a video now with Eugene Gendlin and he talks about how the body level is deeper than thoughts and emotions, although they are connected. Something like that. I think he has a point there. And that's why Eckhart Tolle talks about the importance of inner body awareness. We are so used to staying almost only 'in the head' without any deeper grounding inside the body. So it's no wonder why we have so much diseases. We have a severe disconnect between body and mind.

This is an area i have been investigating on and off..
(plus the fact that child abuse in human cultures appears to have been almost systematic)

If you have any material to share on discoveries i would deeply appreciate it..and i could start another thread about it if you would prefer not to clutter this one.

Here is a link to a review of Tolle's book by a "primal therapist".
(i am posting it because you may find it interesting..i just found this website and there are some amazing articles on it)
http://primal-page.com/tolle.htm

[supertzar]

There have been studies showing that people who spend time every day imagining lifting weights actually gain muscle. It's no substitute for actually lifting, but is a powerful booster. A lot of lifters and bodybuilders practice mentally when not in the gym. Arnold Schwarzenegger envisioned his muscles growing to the size of mountains as part of his training. Read Project Superman by Andy Pero to find out about an extreme example of this.http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml Fred Hatfield or Dr. Squat as he is otherwise known wrote of a hypnosis experiment where a lifter who was normally able to squat 225 pounds for some forty reps was able to do it for hundreds of reps under hypnosis. The experimenter stopped him before he was done.

Also, I know for a fact that we can exert control over autonomic processes like heart rate by using our mind because my Dad taught me to do it when I was a kid. He taught me how to increase the flow of blood to one hand so that the effect was visible. You could see that the one hand had grown puffier than the other.

[Anders Lindman]

This is an area i have been investigating on and off..
(plus the fact that child abuse in human cultures appears to have been almost systematic)

If you have any material to share on discoveries i would deeply appreciate it..and i could start another thread about it if you would prefer not to clutter this one.

Here is a link to a review of Tolle's book by a "primal therapist".
(i am posting it because you may find it interesting..i just found this website and there are some amazing articles on it)
http://primal-page.com/tolle.htm

I don't have any direct material about this, but I can post it when I find some.

[Anders Lindman]

There have been studies showing that people who spend time every day imagining lifting weights actually gain muscle. It's no substitute for actually lifting, but is a powerful booster. A lot of lifters and bodybuilders practice mentally when not in the gym. Arnold Schwarzenegger envisioned his muscles growing to the size of mountains as part of his training. Read Project Superman by Andy Pero to find out about an extreme example of this.http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml Fred Hatfield or Dr. Squat as he is otherwise known wrote of a hypnosis experiment where a lifter who was normally able to squat 225 pounds for some forty reps was able to do it for hundreds of reps under hypnosis. The experimenter stopped him before he was done.

Also, I know for a fact that we can exert control over autonomic processes like heart rate by using our mind because my Dad taught me to do it when I was a kid. He taught me how to increase the flow of blood to one hand so that the effect was visible. You could see that the one hand had grown puffier than the other.

Yes, I have heard similar such things with visualization. One study showed that the same muscle nerves fired when Olympic athletes used visualization as when they were actually running. And some monks can control their body temperature with their mind so they can sit more or less naked in cold places.

[Anders Lindman]

Buddha said that when a string is too tense it will snap and when it is too loose it will not play. The same with the body. Bones should not be too soft nor too hard. Muscles not too tense nor too relaxed, and so on.

[Anders Lindman]

One important visualization technique is surely the regulation of the blood flow throughout the body. The blood doesn't flow properly in us humans today. There are cramp-like contractions everywhere in the body, impairing the flow of the blood. This makes the delivery of nutrition and signal molecules to cells inadequate, leading to biological deterioration. For example, the capillaries (the tiniest blood vessels) get 'trimmed' as we grow older, meaning they become destroyed.

So we need to visualize a healthy and powerful blood flow within the body, and then begin to FEEL actual improvements. For example, first some areas inside the body feel numb, and then when they become 'awake' by mental practice they start to feel cramped and even painful. That is a good thing. If the tissue is completely numb, then it's deteriorating! Not good. After the feeling inside the tissue has returned, the next step is to increase/improve the blood flow within that tissue. When the blood starts to flow correctly, it is felt as a release/relief and a sense of aliveness returning to the tissue.

[Anders Lindman]

Another huge problem is stress. Temporary stresses are usually not problematic. It's the chronic stress that makes the biology to deteriorate. In nature, wild animals are in a state of constant stress, making them age. We humans too have constant stress, causing us to age.

Some of the big stress causes are: fear of getting diseases, fear of aging, personal relationship problems and financial worries. Of these the first can be resolved more or less directly. So the key thing to focus on is financial worries.

[chad]

I've been using EFT for the past year now and it has helped my health a ton. I also recall in What the bleep down the rabbit hole, they did a study where two groups of people ate, I believe it was a chocolate bar. The people that felt no guilt about eating the food digested it way better and didn't reap the negative effects as much as the people who did feel guilty about it.

its all mental people!! :P

[motleyhoo]

I have a hypothesis that by using the mind to make it integrated with the body we can achieve remarkable health, such as:

* Reversing the aging of the body
* Removing all diseases
* Make body and mind free from negative stress
* Make the body fit without the need for repetitive physical exercise
* Improve body posture and physical appearance
* Establish a sound foundation for healthy emotions
* Improve the mind's ability to think
* Improve our physical senses

The most important thing we can do in this age of high-stress modern societies that bombard us with propaganda while demanding more and more from us every day is to manage stress. Stress is one of the biggest killers out there. It shuts down all of your body's defense systems, makes you age, affects your IQ, and is the precursor to many common diseases like heart disease, diabetes and cancer.

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[Anders Lindman]

I've been using EFT for the past year now and it has helped my health a ton. I also recall in What the bleep down the rabbit hole, they did a study where two groups of people ate, I believe it was a chocolate bar. The people that felt no guilt about eating the food digested it way better and didn't reap the negative effects as much as the people who did feel guilty about it.

its all mental people!! :P

At least, the mental level is a part of the whole picture. How we think and how we feel is EXTREMELY important I think. It can make the difference between say a patient suffering terminal cancer having what is called a spontaneous remission or dies within a few weeks.

Stress is a huge factor in health. Even mainstream science talk about that. And stress is very much related to our beliefs, how we think and feel.

[Anders Lindman]

The most important thing we can do in this age of high-stress modern societies that bombard us with propaganda while demanding more and more from us every day is to manage stress. Stress is one of the biggest killers out there. It shuts down all of your body's defense systems, makes you age, affects your IQ, and is the precursor to many common diseases like heart disease, diabetes and cancer.

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Exactly! It's good that even mainstream science has established that. I'm a great fan of science, but often science can be 'lagging' and it will take decades before new findings become mainstream.

I have a hypothesis that stress is actually what is causing aging.

On a biological level, the basic fear response is the so-called fight-or-flight response. This response is activated in animals when they for example are threatened by predators. It causes the blood flow to be directed away from the internal organs and into muscles for defense or for running away. It also causes the immune system to shut down, and in humans it makes the blood in the brain to move from the forebrain used for rational thinking into the hindbrain which increases instinctual and reflex behavior.

Animals in nature live more or less under constant stress of survival. I wouldn't be surprised if the high average stress level in animals is what makes them age. In humans (and in pets through osmosis) the fears have to a large extent moved from direct physical threats to psychological fears such as financial worries and relationship problems.

The natural fight-or-flight response is useful for temporary situations but the problem is that in us humans many of our fears are chronic, meaning that the fears instead of being temporary responses stay in us constantly or over longer periods of time. The stress level that is useful over short periods of time becomes detrimental when prolonged or chronic, with an impaired immune system, deterioration of internal organs and reduced mental capacity as a result.

So the hypothesis here is that our high constant stress level, just as in animals, is the root cause of biological aging. We humans may not feel threatened by wild animals in our ordinary daily lives, but instead we have chronic fears related to our personal financial situation, fears of what other people will think about us or do to us, fears about getting diseases and even fears about aging itself.

If this hypothesis is true, then one way of reducing the aging of our bodies is to reduce stress and fears in our lives. We humans have the ability to use reasoning to understand and manage our own fears. By understanding how fear can be removed from our lives we can reduce, and perhaps even reverse, the aging process in our bodies.

[Anders Lindman]

If our thoughts can change our body, then our thoughts should also be able to change the brain since the brain is also a part of the body. Is there any proof that this is possible in practice? Oh yes there is! Check out this mainstream science presentation about neuroplasticity called Transform Your Mind, Change Your Brain (one hour lecture):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tRdDqXgsJ0

[Anders Lindman]

Getting new teeth would also be a part of the body growing younger. There are some people who get a third tooth sometimes, but that's usually a problem rather than something good.

I was thinking more of a new set of teeth like in children, where an old tooth pops out and a new one grows up in its place. Would it perhaps be possible to do that same stunt even as an adult by a change of belief?

[Anders Lindman]

Another thing which I suspect is obvious is that when the body comes into harmony, then the whole body will feel really, really good. Instead of feeling good, humanity has been pushed down for thousands of years, so our bodies have become severely contorted, unbalanced, twisted and burdened by countless chronic cramps.

So we need to fix our mental level, so that our emotional level heals, and with that the physical level of the body will heal.

[Anders Lindman]

In theory is should be possible to feel good even when we have problems in life. My guess is that most people, like me, have some personal problems. The trick is probably to acknowledge personal problems and STILL create a change in the mind so that the body starts to feel good. Usually things like financial problems, relationship problems and other social problems make us feel really bad, but in theory that should not be necessary.

[natty]

Good for clearing negativity

http://www.zpointforpeace.com/index.php

[Anders Lindman]

Good for clearing negativity

http://www.zpointforpeace.com/index.php

Hi natty,

Thanks. I am listening to the podcasts now. Could be interesting.