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james777

23-08-2007, 04:51 AM

I had the opportunity to meet a 33rd degree mason this past weekend and got some quality time to speak to him. He wasn't a bad guy or a shape-shifting reptilian or anything like that. He was all about bringing races together and ending racism.

It was almost like standing face to face with the 're-incarnation' of Dr. Martin Luther the KING. It was trippin me the fuck out......anyone wanna talk about some theories here?

soglad

23-08-2007, 04:54 AM

How high is that on the masonry rank?

james777

23-08-2007, 04:55 AM

34th is the highest known rank

edit

23-08-2007, 05:19 AM

Southern Moonscape (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html)
[IMG]link to..nasa.gov[IMG] (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0708/MoretusCurtius_higgins720.jpg)
Credit & Copyright: Wes Higgins (http://higginsandsons.com/astro/)

soglad

23-08-2007, 05:23 AM

Southern Moonscape (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html)
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0708/MoretusCurtius_higgins720.jpg
Credit & Copyright: Wes Higgins (http://higginsandsons.com/astro/)

Any reason at all for that? :confused:

james777

23-08-2007, 05:24 AM

limelady

23-08-2007, 05:29 AM

No, edit isn't trying to get you rant-roomed James, she just has
a different take on some things.

Edit, can you please explain this a bit more for us?

LL :)

soglad

23-08-2007, 05:30 AM

Freemasons, moon, Freemasons, moon, Freemasons, moon, Freemasons, moon, Freemasons, moon, Freemasons, moon............nah, nothing clicking yet! C'mon edit, the suspense is killing me! :D

edit

23-08-2007, 05:32 AM

link 2...scienceteecher PI T-SHIRT (http://www.scienceteecher.com/pi_shirt.htm)

soglad

23-08-2007, 05:34 AM

Mmmm............hmmm........

:confused:

edit

23-08-2007, 05:43 AM

edit

23-08-2007, 05:46 AM

http://www.emotionalyoga.com/images/healthsecrets/meditation.jpg
inquiry link to.... (http://www.moonsinger.com/meditation.htm)

limelady

23-08-2007, 05:49 AM

Thanks edit! I get it now ;)

LL

teslafire

23-08-2007, 05:50 AM

"When in grade school we are taught that the three smallest particles of matter were the proton, neutron and electron. Today, we know there are a multitude of yet even smaller particles that make up those first particles. Could we in the 5th grade have understood the quarks, leptons, and other smaller particles without understanding the proton, neutron and electron first? I sincerely doubt it.

Masonry is the same way. The first three degrees are referred to as Symbolic Masonry. Degrees four through 32 are part of what is referred to as Philosophical Masonry. The degrees that follow, from the 34th and up are referred to as the Esoteric Degrees. Again, notice how things are taught in steps."

http://threeworldwars.com/dogma.htm

james777

23-08-2007, 06:00 AM

43-64-normaal (http://www.raven.nl/data/merken/4364-normaal.jpg)
%20astilleros%20lunamar (http://www.astillerolunamar.com.ar/imagenes/01turismo/256%20embarcaciones%20semirrigidas%20neumaticas%20 MOON%20560%20pesca%20astilleros%20lunamar.jpg)
sport-fitzmaroon
http://www.sweetwaterfishing.com.au/images/fitzmaroon.jpg
... swear by fishing the full moon.
(http://www.sweetwaterfishing.com.au/SurfaceLuringBass.htm)

http://www.emotionalyoga.com/images/healthsecrets/meditation.jpg
inquiry link to.... (http://www.moonsinger.com/meditation.htm)

Thanks edit! I get it now ;)

LL

Seriously.....wut the fuck???

Lime, why are you co-signing?? why don't you explain it since it makes so much sense......

Anytime some real shit is brought up that could actually impact somebody, they release the dogs! This 'forum' will never allow too much info to actually be discussed............quite comical when you actually see and realize this and can take a step back and see the 'suppression' that actually goes on here in many ways shapes and forms........this is one of them..........anyways....off to the 'rant-room' we go.............LOL...........wut a fuckin joke

this 'Forum' has caused me to lose any belief in David's cause.......before this 'forum' I really saw eye-to-eye with him..........I wonder if this site is actually 'illuminati' controlled in an effort to make 'Icke' look fucked up......

pollock

23-08-2007, 06:12 AM

Seriously.....wut the fuck???

Lime, why are you co-signing?? why don't you explain it since it makes so much sense......

Anytime some real shit is brought up that could actually impact somebody, they release the dogs! This 'forum' will never allow too much info to actually be discussed............quite comical when you actually see and realize this and can take a step back and see the 'suppression' that actually goes on here in many ways shapes and forms........this is one of them..........anyways....off to the 'rant-room' we go.............LOL...........wut a fuckin joke

this 'Forum' has caused me to lose any belief in David's cause.......before this 'forum' I really saw eye-to-eye with him..........I wonder if this site is actually 'illuminati' controlled in an effort to make 'Icke' look fucked up......

It seems to me the only one turning this thread into a rant is yourself James!
Can't you tell us about this Martin Luther Mason instead, or was that not why this thread was created?
Maybe you are fishing (in the moonlight) for a fight???

Well
F

limelady

23-08-2007, 06:16 AM

Edits message was indeed cryptic, but her intention was clear....at
least to me.

I won't speak for Edit, but see what you get from this......

*Moon (as in dark side of)
*Fishing (as in trip/this thread)
*Meditation (rising above/reconnection to something greater than)

It does take a bit of right-brain work I admit, but its all there IMO :)

james777

23-08-2007, 06:22 AM

It seems to me the only one turning this thread into a rant is yourself James!
Can't you tell us about this Martin Luther Mason instead, or was that not why this thread was created?
Maybe you are fishing (in the moonlight) for a fight???

Well
F

Well I tried to open it up and discuss this.......you see though...first the 'subtle' approach.......now they've already started to saturate the original intent and the process continues.....thread after thread......why do you think they created the rant room anyways.......YAWN....BOOOORING.it's not even really worth trying to post anymore........let the blind lead the blind......

and then you asking me if I'm trying to 'fish for a fight'......I mean common......

i_am

23-08-2007, 06:24 AM

Seriously.....wut the fuck???

Lime, why are you co-signing?? why don't you explain it since it makes so much sense......

Anytime some real shit is brought up that could actually impact somebody, they release the dogs! This 'forum' will never allow too much info to actually be discussed............quite comical when you actually see and realize this and can take a step back and see the 'suppression' that actually goes on here in many ways shapes and forms........this is one of them..........anyways....off to the 'rant-room' we go.............LOL...........wut a fuckin joke
this 'Forum' has caused me to lose any belief in David's cause.......before this 'forum' I really saw eye-to-eye with him..........I wonder if this site is actually 'illuminati' controlled in an effort to make 'Icke' look fucked up......

James I believe you are correct. I also believe that there are forces at work here to disrupt, discredit and detract. I do not believe edit is one of them, however. I doubt a thread has ever been moved because of anything edit has contributed no matter how cryptic, so lighten up. It is not abusive in any way.

teslafire

23-08-2007, 06:25 AM

You've been saying this forum is shit and that its not even worth posting, since you signed up.

oneofmany

23-08-2007, 06:26 AM

Well I tried to open it up and discuss this.......you see though...first the 'subtle' approach.......now they've already started to saturate the original intent and the process continues.....thread after thread......why do you think they created the rant room anyways.......YAWN....BOOOORING.it's not even really worth trying to post anymore........let the blind lead the blind......

and then you asking me if I'm trying to 'fish for a fight'......I mean common......
If you have any info on 33rd degree Freemasons, I for one would like to hear it.

edit

23-08-2007, 06:31 AM

and i wonder...from what you get all those nicly put formations of words thoughts and wishies and are they separated from the rest of the universal points

:blink:

pollock

23-08-2007, 06:33 AM

If you have any info on 33rd degree Freemasons, I for one would like to hear it.

Me too!

or is this thread too boring now?

F

james777

23-08-2007, 06:34 AM

You've been saying this forum is shit and that its not even worth posting, since you signed up.

First of all, that is not true and secondly, I was on this site waaay before I signed up, but thanks for trying to mind my business

If you have any info on 33rd degree Freemasons, I for one would like to hear it.

I do have info on the subject, but honestly I would like to hear what others have to say about it first and also, I hate posting 'jewels' when people are just gonna shit all over and thus lose the meaning in all..........

james777

23-08-2007, 06:37 AM

limelady

23-08-2007, 06:41 AM

Just to lightly touch on the direction I'm going here........I have a belief that all 'Mason's' are 're-incarnates' of murdered, martyred and mistaken people from the history of our planet.....

Does anyone know about the book 'Oahspe'?

This sounds very interesting James. I'd like to hear more, but
I can't say I've heard of the "Oahspe' book. Can you give us a
bit of a low-down on that?

LL

james777

23-08-2007, 06:47 AM

This sounds very interesting James. I'd like to hear more, but
I can't say I've heard of the "Oahspe' book. Can you give us a
bit of a low-down on that?

LL

'Oahspe' is a book of the history of the planet, detailing the last 24,000+ years. It was written in the LATE 1800's by a man who wrote it through 'light' automatic writing. It has great detail and even explains things in our modern Bible that are in question. I'm not claiming it's truth, but very interesting..........

.........I'll tell you though, the simple fact that it is so 'well hidden' most people don't know anything about it and it's nearly $300US proves to me that something is up.....

Another interesting book is 'The Book Of Enoch: Knowledge'

james777

23-08-2007, 06:52 AM

I believe that the 'Illuminati' uses the freemason's to blame a lot of the world's problems on.......they don't truly want us to understand that the 'freemason's' are actually on our side so they use slander techniques and dis-information to throw us off and have us believe that 'freemason's' are evil. Anyone who knows any 'real' mason's know's that they aren't what the media/illuminati claims they are..........and...........I've received new knowledge about how the 'illuminati' itself is a separate 'machine' to keep us focused on the wrong issues here.......
.......shit is deep and I'm not sure if I should even talk about it....

james777

23-08-2007, 06:57 AM

If you have any info on 33rd degree Freemasons, I for one would like to hear it.

33rd Degree Mason's work mostly 'behind the scenes' in -first world- politics.....

limelady

23-08-2007, 07:02 AM

.......shit is deep and I'm not sure if I should even talk about it....

Like I said on another thread earlier today, let the shit
flow....it is ALL going to come out sooner or later anyway, so
it might as well be now!

So, feed us all the shit you have please James :)

james777

23-08-2007, 07:07 AM

Like I said on another thread earlier today, let the shit
flow....it is ALL going to come out sooner or later anyway, so
it might as well be now!

So, feed us all the shit you have please James :)

My IP address is very 'trace-able' from here....I'm not trying to be hunted right now......do you know how to read 'third-letter code reduction algorythyms'?

If so perhaps we can communicate through encypted 'hush' mail.......

_invisibleplane_

23-08-2007, 07:47 AM

here's the connection between masons and the moon, thought this was well known

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/spacemason/

limelady

23-08-2007, 07:49 AM

My IP address is very 'trace-able' from here....I'm not trying to be hunted right now......do you know how to read 'third-letter code reduction algorythyms'?

If so perhaps we can communicate through encypted 'hush' mail.......

Blimey, this sounds very James Bondish.....:eek:

No I don't know how to read whatever that was you asked above.....
but maybe its time I learnt!

limelady

23-08-2007, 07:53 AM

here's the connection between masons and the moon, thought this was well known

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/spacemason/

Indeed invisibleplane, Mason's laid their claim to the moon via the
NASA space-program. :)

See....Edit knows her stuff so well her moon post was full of information
for those with eyes to see.

i am all i am

23-08-2007, 08:29 AM

I LOVE YOU.

3 - 30 - 3.

3 degrees = 3.
30 degrees = 3.
3 degrees = 3.

36 degrees, 3 + 6 = 9.

3 + 3 + 3 = 9.

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

6 + 6 + 6 = 18, 1 + 8 = 9.

Nine is the three-fold number (three aspects, for example, mind / body / soul), the number representing MANkind.

600, 6 is the creative nimber, 0 represents The Creator, = creating a dual Creator.

Threescore, or 3 x 3 = 9, = MANkind.

6, the creative number, when used postively is creative, when used negatively is destructive.

Lies 6 Truth
Pain 6 Joy
Fear 6 Love

"his number is six hundred threescore and six.", MANkind is seperating that which is one, The Creator, and is creating/destroying itself through the belief of seperation.

THANK YOU.

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S34.gif With LOVE http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

The origin of the temporal and spiritual streams of evolution is as follows:

Jehovah created Eve, a human being.

The Lucifer Spirit Samael united with Eve and begat a semi-divine son, Cain. As he left Eve before the birth of the child, CAIN WAS THE SON OF A WIDOW, AND A SERPENT OF WISDOM.

Then Jehovah created Adam, a human being like Eve.

Adam and Eve united and begat a child, human like themselves, whose name was Abel. Jehovah, being the Lunar God, is associated with the water, hence there was enmity between CAIN, THE SON OF FIRE, and ABEL, THE SON OF WATER. So Cain slew Abel and Abel was replaced by Seth.

In time and through generations, the Sons of Cain became the CRAFTSMEN of the world, skilled in the use of fire and metal. Their ideal was MALE, Hiram Abiff, the Master workman.

The Sons of Seth, on the other hand, became the CHURCHMEN, upholding the FEMININE ideal, the Virgin Mary, and ruling their people by the magic WATER placed at their temple doors.

Various attempts have been made to unite the two streams of humanity and emancipate them from their progenitors, Jehovah and the Lucifer Spirits. With this end in view the symbolical TEMPLE was built according to the instruction of SOLOMON, the Son of Seth and the Molten Sea was cast by HIRAM ABIFF, the Son of Cain; but the main object was frustrated as we have seen, and the attempt at unification proved abortive.

Moses, the divinely appointed leader of the old dispensation, afterward reborn as Elijah, guided humanity through its ages of infancy, and was finally embodied as John the Baptist, the herald of the new dispensation, the Christian Era. At the same point in time the other actors in the World Drama were also brought to birth that they might serve their brothers.

At the casting of the Molten Sea HIRAM ABIFF had been given the baptism of fire by Cain, which freed him from the LUCIFER SPIRITS; he was also given a new Hammer and a new Word. When the new Era dawned, he was born as Lazarus, the widow's son of Nain, and raised by the strong grip of the lion's paw to the rank of Immortals as Christian Rosenkreuz.

SOLOMON, the Son of Seth, was reborn as JESUS. The BAPTISM OF WATER administered by John as representative of Jehovah freed him also. He yielded his body at that moment to the descending Christ Spirit and ranged himself with the new leader.

Religion has been terribly tarnished in the course of time, its pristine purity has long since vanished under the regime of creed, and it is no longer CATHOLIC, that is to say, UNIVERSAL. Sects and "isms" have branched out in one direction and another, but still JESUS from the invisible worlds enfolds in his love all THE SONS OF SETH who will call upon his name BY FAITH, and he will eventually unite the scattered churches in the Kingdom of Christ.

CHRISTIAN ROSENKREUZ was given charge of the Sons of Cain who seek the light of KNOWLEDGE at the sacred fires of the Mystic Shrine. As the creative energy implanted by their divine ancestor Samael caused Cain to work out their own salvation through the fire of tribulation, and fashion for themselves the Golden Wedding Garment, which is the "Open Sesame" to the Invisible World. And though the cleansing blood of Jesus is an absolute necessity to millions of weaker brothers, there can scarcely be any question when we assert that THE MORE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ENGAGE IN MYSTIC MASONRY TO CONSCIOUSLY BUILD THIS TEMPLE OF THE SOUL, THE SOONER WE SHALL SEE THE SECOND ADVENT OF CHRIST, AND THE STRONGER WILL BE THE RACE WHICH HE SHALL RULE BY THE LAW OF LOVE.

Freemasonry and Catholicism by Max Heindell, 33 degree freemason.

http://www.polachek.net/books/index.html

cruise4

23-08-2007, 09:05 AM

I keep seeing different 'highest' degrees, 33rd, 34th, 96....
why so many different figures? Are they different within branches or something?

edelweiss pirate

23-08-2007, 10:16 AM

My IP address is very 'trace-able' from here....I'm not trying to be hunted right now......do you know how to read 'third-letter code reduction algorythyms'?

If so perhaps we can communicate through encypted 'hush' mail.......

What are you scared of if as your op suggests, Masons are so nice?

BTW your point about Masons being reincarnates is an excellent one. There is a whole cycle of reincarnation that one undergoes as a mason. However, from what I understood, a mason by definition must always reincarnate, because Masons are by definintion imperfect people... you won't believe this but the message I got was that if they were good and did what they were told, masons die and reincarnate as Christians!

That's just the system as I understood it.

Someone on the old forum told me that I had been headhunted by the masons because I had been a mason in a previous life and that I had no free will in the matter and that I must be a mason this lifetime to do the 'work' Bollocks of course but if you believe it it becomes real.

james777

23-08-2007, 03:15 PM

What are you scared of if as your op suggests, Masons are so nice?

Ya brudda, I'm not talking about the 'Mason's' tracking me my friend.

mada88

23-08-2007, 04:23 PM

34th is the highest known rank

One question, how many degrees are there in a circle??? 360! its not 33 thats important its 33 and a third. You can only get to the 360th degree by birth right only by then you become a god.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2018284938536095474&q=2012
I reckon that the 33rd and a third degree is the top degree.

tinmenace

26-08-2007, 01:20 AM

archangel

26-08-2007, 01:31 AM

What all did you talk about?

Did you ask him any questions?

was the extend of your conversation that he'd like to see racism disappear??

sean~infinte

26-08-2007, 01:42 AM

on the subject of masons it is in my belief that not all of them are evil or at least kno wat they are doing much like some people in politics

although even if the masons were all good n all and they do have info and knowledge right? why do they seek to keep it secret and not share this information it could also be true that the illumies who are high initiates of freemasonry use the term freemason as a means of protection

like george bush he calls him self a christian but he clearly isnt, same with big jew families

although him being a high member suprises me its a possibility that he doesnt kno wats truly going on as freemasonry is on a need to kno bases but also keep in mind that the founding father B.Franklin says he was against slavery (being a high ranking mason) yet he had 200 black slaves and also the children found dead in his house also backs his lies and corruption

mada88

26-08-2007, 01:55 AM

eternal_spirit

26-08-2007, 02:02 AM

34th is the highest known rank
.........

I've heard of a 98th degree and others say there are 360 degrees, that's a nice round figure, would make sense.

whitenight639

26-08-2007, 02:39 AM

.........

I've heard of a 98th degree and others say there are 360 degrees, that's a nice round figure, would make sense.

its not 33 thats for sure everyone i talk to that knows/ knew a mason was 33 degree, it must be like first yr of secondary school above the plebs but bottom of the yop peeps, anyway i want to hear what james has to say...

mada88

26-08-2007, 03:15 AM

its not 33 thats for sure everyone i talk to that knows/ knew a mason was 33 degree, it must be like first yr of secondary school above the plebs but bottom of the yop peeps, anyway i want to hear what james has to say...

A compass is for drawing circles and it is a masonic symbol so it would make sense if it went to 360 degrees. But then again who knows it could go to 900 degrees maybe when you get to 360 degrees you become a 1 circle lol then you have to get to 360 circles. All these titles that people want for themselves.
Its not the number 33 its 33 and a third. I reckon its either got to do with maths being the language of nature or its to do with maps and time and seeing where you are in the cosmic game.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2018284938536095474&q=David+Flynn+-+The+Doomsday+Clock+and+2012&total=19&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 An interesting video about the significance of the 33 and a third among other things.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=David+Flynn+-+The+Doomsday+Clock+and+2012 more David Flynn videos

When you are getting close they will acuse you of working for them. Talk about the monkeys in the cage and the hanging banana and the ladder! lmao

quetzalcoatl

26-08-2007, 03:20 AM

Did he ask you the time James777 if so how did you reply. Also did he ask your age? again what did you reply with.
I feel this thread should go into the rubbish bin. I mean the "rant" room like all of your other posts.

That's hardly a sound way to gauge a Mason any-more. Having no time, or being very old.

I liked the Moon Edit, very clever. Since space is closed to everyone but Masons & the super-rich.

I've meet a few Masons. & I can sum them up with one word ARROGANT! Their superiority complexes, patronising laughter, boarder-line derogatory humour, really turns my gut!. That's my experience though. & I know they're not all pure evil, in-fact the majority do good things in the community. & some see themselves as Earths saviours (in a sort of 'you'd be fucked with-out us' kinda way).

mada88

26-08-2007, 04:18 AM

That's hardly a sound way to gauge a Mason any-more. Having no time, or being very old.

I liked the Moon Edit, very clever. Since space is closed to everyone but Masons & the super-rich.

I've meet a few Masons. & I can sum them up with one word ARROGANT! Their superiority complexes, patronising laughter, boarder-line derogatory humour, really turns my gut!. That's my experience though. & I know they're not all pure evil, in-fact the majority do good things in the community. & some see themselves as Earths saviours (in a sort of 'you'd be fucked with-out us' kinda way).

I dout they where high masons. I bet they where just the blue lodge masses lol the front of masonary.

quetzalcoatl

26-08-2007, 04:49 AM

I dout they where high masons. I bet they where just the blue lodge masses lol the front of masonary.

Yea, far from 33rd°. Although I'm not exactly sure of their rank. Which brings us full-circle to what has this to do with the threads subject matter?. Well, I got lost reading through this thread & forgot James's discussion is regarding the 'big boys'.

I've too, heard of ranks going up to the 90th°. So much for it being based on the 33 ascending stairs of Solomon's Temple.