"Diversity" - a bunch of talentless black kids [Archive]

flip side

17-09-2009, 01:56 AM

So what did people expect with a name like that?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090916/ten-diversity-dance-at-downing-street-5f8abb3.html

Yet the PM gives them an audience at Downing Street. When will this ridiculous pc nonsense stop?

It's called PR!...Gordon Brown loves to associate himself with the young, cool and trendies. It's so obvious...BUT....

...I dont think these guys are talentless. In fact, what is wrong with a group of young lads doing something productive with their time, keeping fit and producing an original dance act that ultimately keeps them off the streets and sets others their own age a good example?

joe911

17-09-2009, 02:06 AM

It's called PR!...Gordon Brown loves to associate himself with the young, cool and trendies. It's so obvious...BUT....

...I dont think these guys are talentless. In fact, what is wrong with a group of young lads doing something productive with their time, keeping fit and producing an original dance act that ultimately keeps them off the streets and sets others their own age a good example?

Well said :)

swethirte i also think your "talentless black kids" comment was out of order,they are talented,and thier colour is irrelivent.

the nine

17-09-2009, 02:16 AM

So what did people expect with a name like that?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090916/ten-diversity-dance-at-downing-street-5f8abb3.html

Yet the PM gives them an audience at Downing Street. When will this ridiculous pc nonsense stop?

why mention that they are black?
when you describe people, do you always mention their colour, regardless?

just curious, "Diversity" a bunch of talentless kids would have sufficed IMHO.

ps,
not flaming or trying to aggrivate to you :)

swethirte

17-09-2009, 02:18 AM

why mention that they are black?
when you describe people, do you always mention their colour, regardless?

just curious, "Diversity" a bunch of talentless kids would have sufficed IMHO.

ps,
not flaming or trying to aggrivate to you :)

No, that's the whole point. If they weren't black, they'd have never won anything nor got an audience with the PM.

bluegrazz

17-09-2009, 02:22 AM

Without watching the Vid- were there white performers as well? Here in the States 'Diversity' means Black, brown, red, and yellow. Whites need not apply.

We also have so much 'affirmative action' here its sick. Blacks are allowed to do lower on their S.A.T.'s to get into College's, Businesses are forced to hire a % of minorities but minority owned businesses do not have to hire any whites, Minorities are promoted faster in the Military and in Government Jobs (by Law), Blacks have a 'Black Entertainment Channel', 'Black miss America, etc, etc. (try having a 'White miss America'), Blacks and minorities take precedent in sec. 8 housing, Blacks have 'Black only' scholarships, and Blacks represent a disproportionate percentage of our population in Movies and on T.V.

The list goes on, and on and on- So, anytime I hear "Diversity' I am pretty sure that does not include me and those with my skin color.... That's pretty racist dont ya think?

bendoon

17-09-2009, 02:24 AM

No, that's the whole point. If they weren't black, they'd have never won anything nor got an audience with the PM.

Thats true, and the name diversity is a joke because they aren't even diverse. Just part of the drip drip multicultural propaganda to make us sit back and take it whilst we are ethnically cleansed.

Now this is more realistic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nBNBpkalM&feature=player_embedded

mynameis

17-09-2009, 02:34 AM

Now this is more realistic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nBNBpkalM&feature=player_embedded

Not exactly realistic.

"The incident appears now to be more about a couple of bullies on a bus dictating where people sit," said Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax, who originally said Monday's attack may have been racially motivated.

The school suspended the two attackers for 10 days today, pending an expulsion hearing, and suspended three bystanders, including D'Vante, for five days for laughing at the incident, D'Vante and his mother said the principal told them.

D'Vante's mother, Shenico Greer, was very upset outside Belleville West this afternoon, as she picked up her son.

"He was not in the fight!" Greer said.

"Everybody on that bus, mostly, was laughing and standing up," she said.

She said her son even helped the victim after the attacks, picking up his glasses and asking him if he was OK.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/60D37B6EC5FF4711862576320011605B?OpenDocument

mrerisian

17-09-2009, 02:36 AM

No, that's the whole point. If they weren't black, they'd have never won anything nor got an audience with the PM.

Wow - here's a guy with real insider knowledge. This is incredible information. Where's your proof? I imagine you'll be all over the news tomorrow with this big scoop.

I imagine you work in Government and were present during the decision making process? If not I can only guess that you have a very good contact who was.

I'm sure all the other posters here literally cannot wait for the evidence you've based your outrageous (thrillingly non PC) conclusions on...

... can't wait to read it.

Oooh - I imagine you're a big hunky man who takes no nonsense and is sick to the back teeth of political correctness because frankly, and yes I dare say it, it's gone mad hasn't it?

flip side

17-09-2009, 02:37 AM

No, that's the whole point. If they weren't black, they'd have never won anything nor got an audience with the PM.

Weren't they voted by the public in 'Britain's Got Talent'?...so you're saying the British public only voted for them because they were black?! hmm I smell bullshit! I think as far as the 'talent' that is paraded on that particular program goes, these guys aint so bad. But hey I'm only saying that cos they're black right? Get over it mate!

As for the audience with the PM, there could be some truth in what you're saying. I dare say a big group of young black males at 10 Downing Street does boost his PR!

Are they undeserving, well that's all down to personal taste I suppose. Why you're so pissed off these guys got to perform at a one eyed, two faced, lying twat's house is beyond me but still. ;) :rolleyes:

mrerisian

17-09-2009, 02:40 AM

I think the thing is ... the opening poster is clearly black and it seems to cloud his vision a little.

He sees everything in terms of a racial struggle.

bendoon

17-09-2009, 02:48 AM

Weren't they voted by the public in 'Britain's Got Talent'?...:

How many voting and competition phone in scams have been uncovered on British TV and radio in the last couple of years, loads.

redskywalker

17-09-2009, 02:48 AM

pish

mrerisian

17-09-2009, 02:50 AM

How many voting and competition phone in scams have been uncovered on British TV and radio in the last couple of years, loads.

Proves it.:rolleyes:

flip side

17-09-2009, 03:04 AM

How many voting and competition phone in scams have been uncovered on British TV and radio in the last couple of years, loads.

Indeed, was there a voting scandal that year though? If you know of one I'm sure you can provide the evidence. What you're suggesting is that they rigged the vote so the black guys could win. I'm not totally ruling it out as a possibility, but I have seen no evidence that they did so until I do they won fair and square.

aaaggghhhhh what am I doing? I'm arguing about Diversity & Britain's Got Talent...a new low!

bornfree

17-09-2009, 03:05 AM

They werent talentless by any means...

But their name was a sure-fire winner with the PC champagne socialist brigade...

mrerisian

17-09-2009, 03:11 AM

they won fair and square.

Freemasonic terminology. More proooves it! You're pushing an agenda you illuminati scum. An evil agenda of people getting along without undue attention to colour and creed. You'll be saying you think gays are alright next.

kingmonkey

17-09-2009, 03:15 AM

No, that's the whole point. If they weren't black, they'd have never won anything nor got an audience with the PM.

Here we go...Another race thread...What a fucking crock. They're not even all black, your bigotry's blinded your judgement!

flip side

17-09-2009, 03:18 AM

Freemasonic terminology. More proooves it! You're pushing an agenda you illuminati scum. An evil agenda of people getting along without undue attention to colour and creed. You'll be saying you think gays are alright next.

Well my brother's gay and I love him with all my heart so yeah! Pushing the NWO agenda so much you might as well call me Rockefella :rolleyes:

deem

17-09-2009, 03:22 AM

The only one there with no talent was Gordon Brown. Im a bit diappointed in Diversity performing for that clown.:D

655321

17-09-2009, 05:56 AM

Diversity is strength.

sickleblade

17-09-2009, 08:28 AM

mrerisian

17-09-2009, 08:33 AM

Here we go...Another race thread...What a fucking crock. They're not even all black, your bigotry's blinded your judgement!

You've got to ask yourself why this keeps happening. It's a problem with the movement itself IMO.

It's not Disinfo agents, it's not random, it's people who are drawn to conspiracy theory who have hate in their hearts. Simple as that.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 10:14 AM

Wow - here's a guy with real insider knowledge. This is incredible information. Where's your proof? I imagine you'll be all over the news tomorrow with this big scoop.

I imagine you work in Government and were present during the decision making process? If not I can only guess that you have a very good contact who was.

I'm sure all the other posters here literally cannot wait for the evidence you've based your outrageous (thrillingly non PC) conclusions on...

... can't wait to read it.

Oooh - I imagine you're a big hunky man who takes no nonsense and is sick to the back teeth of political correctness because frankly, and yes I dare say it, it's gone mad hasn't it?

Lol. I'm a woman.

As for proof of what going on, just look around you, and especially at the media. Black "culture" (if that's the right word) is rammed down our throats at every possible opportunity.

anthony65

17-09-2009, 10:18 AM

You've got to ask yourself why this keeps happening. It's a problem with the movement itself IMO.

It's not Disinfo agents, it's not random, it's people who are drawn to conspiracy theory who have hate in their hearts. Simple as that.

You don't find similar people elsewhere?

You don't think that some of them are here to intentionally discredit the debates.

Please define "the movement".

An organization?

An umbrella term for all who question the mainstream?

There is no "truth movement".

lupa

17-09-2009, 10:29 AM

Sorry that's bullshit. 1. How are they talentless. 2. WTF has being black got to do with the pm meeting them. Any White or asian would of won that show and made headlines with them moves. They were insane

loving the la haine avatar sickleblade that's a good film. agrees @ insane ;) they deserved to win even if the whole show is a joke.

itsallundercontrol

17-09-2009, 12:04 PM

The savage soldier sticks his head
In sand and then complains
unto the shoeless hunter
who's gone deaf but still remains
upon the beach where hound dogs bay
at ships with tattoed sails
heading for the gates of eden

djhooker

17-09-2009, 12:15 PM

the goverment are letting us know that they will be indiscriminate in the culling of the useless eaters.

anthony65

17-09-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by flip side
It's called PR!...Gordon Brown loves to associate himself with the young, cool and trendies. It's so obvious...BUT....

...I dont think these guys are talentless. In fact, what is wrong with a group of young lads doing something productive with their time, keeping fit and producing an original dance act that ultimately keeps them off the streets and sets others their own age a good example?

Joe911 replied...

Well said

swethirte i also think your "talentless black kids" comment was out of order,they are talented,and thier colour is irrelivent.

Sorry that the quotes are a bit muddled, but I wanted to include flip sides comment and Joe's reply.

Believe it or not, I'd never heard of Diversity before... I thought Susan Boyle had won this...

The talentless black kids thread title is stupid.

I just watched the final performance and they are clearly not just black and they clearly have talent. Not the kind of stuff I'd want to watch, but as acrobats they are very good.

** Getting away from the misleading title...

The final performance, which is all I've seen of this group, is very, very matrix / death / human robot inspired. :eek:

Is all of their stuff like this?

alzee

17-09-2009, 12:29 PM

Lol. I'm a woman.

As for proof of what going on, just look around you, and especially at the media. Black "culture" (if that's the right word) is rammed down our throats at every possible opportunity.

we're still waiting for proof.

take your hate elsewhere, bigot.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 12:32 PM

we're still waiting for proof.

take your hate elsewhere, bigot.

You may want to live in a dumbed down, Ali G (without the irony) culture, but I don't.

alzee

17-09-2009, 12:37 PM

You may want to live in a dumbed down, Ali G (without the irony) culture, but I don't.

I couldn't care less how you want to live your life, it means nothing to me.

I do care that your threads are so often full of hate and bigotry - perhaps you should follow a religion that preaches understanding and compassion instead of one that forbids sex and wrecks your knees :rolleyes:

Btw, still waiting for this proof you keep mentioning....

brainfreeze

17-09-2009, 12:47 PM

From what I recall having seen them on the show, the older guys were either working or at uni. I'd not say they were a bunch of talentless black kids. They're good kids who formed a dance group that kept them off the streets and out of trouble, which is a problem with a lot of kids of today who are bored and don't know how to entertain themselves. This group did good. But as with all life, there will always be someone waiting to put them down. That's what is sad, the taletless judging others because their own lives are incomplete.

redskywalker

17-09-2009, 12:56 PM

You are an incredibly damaged individual, and have posted here to fill yourself on the replies you knew you would get. You are programmed /posessed and feel massively insecure within your pre-packaged aspartame fuelled existance, no doubt through understanding your inadequacy, as you see those you consider your inferiors daring to share, daring to unite and trampling all over your fascistic degrading repulsive views of humanity. You no doubt agree with massive population control, wars and the dumbing down of the thought centres. I'm so glad you are here and not somewhere else, at least we here can pin the likes of you down.
What's that you say? Projecting? Who? Me? But am I? Am I really?

Can others who find this individuls views sad rate this 1 star

swethirte

17-09-2009, 01:02 PM

You are an incredibly damaged individual, and have posted here to fill yourself on the replies you knew you would get. You are programmed /posessed and feel massively insecure within your pre-packaged aspartame fuelled existance, no doubt through understanding your inadequacy, as you see those you consider your inferiors daring to share, daring to unite and trampling all over your fascistic degrading repulsive views of humanity. You no doubt agree with massive population control, wars and the dumbing down of the thought centres. I'm so glad you are here and not somewhere else, at least we here can pin the likes of you down.
What's that you say? Projecting? Who? Me? But am I? Am I really?

Thank you for your reasoned response. My point is very simple really. Our society is being dumbed down, and ethnic minorities are being promoted beyond their talent over the native population, in the media for example. This will only lead to trouble.

P.S. I have no idea why you mentioned aspartame, but since its a drug we avoid it.

kingmonkey

17-09-2009, 01:48 PM

Thank you for your reasoned response. My point is very simple really. Our society is being dumbed down, and ethnic minorities are being promoted beyond their talent over the native population, in the media for example. This will only lead to trouble.

P.S. I have no idea why you mentioned aspartame, but since its a drug we avoid it.

So...In your opinion, who should have won that competition that Diversity won? And what have ethnic minorities got to do with being dumbed down?

swethirte

17-09-2009, 01:55 PM

So...In your opinion, who should have won that competition that Diversity won? And what have ethnic minorities got to do with being dumbed down?

I have no idea I didn't watch it.

The promotion of ethnic minorities and the dumbing down of society go hand in hand, as experience has shown. As to why this should be, I'll leave that one to others to suggest.

pureheart

17-09-2009, 01:59 PM

I find your thread title really offensive. I personally voted for Diversity to win Britain's Got Talent because I thought they were pretty amazing. The choreography was really innovative and they had immense energy and positivity. They were also humble and likeable lads who had put a lot of hard work into their performance. My daughter was really inspired by them and wants to learn to dance as a result.

I'd be delighted to have 'an audience' with them and I'm sure Gordon Brown was too.

kingmonkey

17-09-2009, 02:02 PM

I have no idea I didn't watch it.

The promotion of ethnic minorities and the dumbing down of society go hand in hand, as experience has shown. As to why this should be, I'll leave that one to others to suggest.

Right, so what about all the white people that are in the public eye that are thick as pigshit??? I suppose Jade Goody, Jack Tweed, Jordan, Peter Andre etc. are all fucking geniuses. Do they not "dumb down" the public? The members of that diversity group are all quite well educated with half decent jobs; how is that dumbing down? I'd have thought they were good role models if anything.

They won the show because they were good at what they do. If Gordon Brown aligned himself with them for PR purposes, that's another issue.

sickleblade

17-09-2009, 02:04 PM

loving the la haine avatar sickleblade that's a good film.

:D Fanx lol. Yea love la haine also should of ended differently tho

alzee

17-09-2009, 02:05 PM

I have no idea I didn't watch it.

The promotion of ethnic minorities and the dumbing down of society go hand in hand, as experience has shown. As to why this should be, I'll leave that one to others to suggest.

Typical. Spew your inciteful shite then suggest others should offer ways to support your arguments.

You should backup with examples your assertion that promotion of black society and dumbing down of whites go hand in hand.

Put up or shutup.

sickleblade

17-09-2009, 02:08 PM

LOL @ dumbing down of whites

Some people on here have really got race issues

bendoon

17-09-2009, 04:03 PM

And what have ethnic minorities got to do with being dumbed down?

The average IQ of white Europeans is 100, the average IQ of Africans is 70. So if you bring Africans into europe and put them in schools with white children you have to lower the standards, which is why A levels today are easier than O levels were 60 years ago and one of the reasons why the country is going down the pan.

Sorry for the blunt response but I find that stating the truth plainly is always the best option rather than pussyfooting around with PC crap.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 04:08 PM

The average IQ of white Europeans is 100, the average IQ of Africans is 70. So if you bring Africans into europe and put them in schools with white children you have to lower the standards, which is why A levels today are easier than O levels were 60 years ago and one of the reasons why the country is going down the pan.

Sorry for the blunt response but I find that stating the truth plainly is always the best option rather than pussyfooting around with PC crap.

This is, unfortunately, completely correct. I also note in passing that all the liberals who bleat about multiculturalism live as far away from "ethnically diverse" areas as their pockets will allow, monopolising the few good schools still left. Hypocrites.

kingmonkey

17-09-2009, 04:15 PM

The average IQ of white Europeans is 100, the average IQ of Africans is 70. So if you bring Africans into europe and put them in schools with white children you have to lower the standards, which is why A levels today are easier than O levels were 60 years ago and one of the reasons why the country is going down the pan.

Sorry for the blunt response but I find that stating the truth plainly is always the best option rather than pussyfooting around with PC crap.

Source?

Edit: In fact, I'm not getting into it, you're a creationist and a white supremacist; I really don't care what you have to say. But feel free to back up your statement for the benefit of anyone else who may be interested.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 04:35 PM

Certain Amazon tribes would probably fare poorly on an IQ test, but by the time their children are school age they can identify forty species of ants. Can white kids do that? What good is the IQ test version of intelligence if a person has no understanding of the natural world and no wisdom? It's so good to be a bunch of clever little jerks, is it?

bendoon

17-09-2009, 04:37 PM

Source?

a white supremacist; .

How do you work that bit of ingenious information out ?

Because I recognise that there are differences between races does not mean I am a white supremacist whatever it says in the Guardian.

Source?

If its not immediately obvious to you, you could find out yourself within 5 minutes.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 04:38 PM

swethirte

17-09-2009, 04:41 PM

The IQ of races is certainly a contoversial subject, but it's true that in all studies blacks tend to come out lower. If not by 30% then certainly by 15 to 20%. Orientals also tend to score a couple of points higher than Europeans, but as a European I feel no embarrassment in admitting such. It must also be remembered that these are just averages, and in no way preclude the possibility of very intelligent black people, and very stupid white ones.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 04:52 PM

As I understand it, an IQ test is designed to measure pure intelligence, reasoning and the like, independent of learnt information.

But it doesn't apply to some cultures. You can't measure their intelligence in the same way. For example some cultures do not have 2D representations of 3D objects as you would have in a drawing. They would wonder why some things would be smaller or larger than others in the picture. It's not because they are born incapable of understanding it. They just have no need for it since the natural world eclipses such abstractions.

bendoon

17-09-2009, 04:54 PM

But it doesn't apply to some cultures. You can't measure their intelligence in the same way. For example some cultures do not have 2D representations of 3D objects as you would have in a drawing. They would wonder why some things would be smaller or larger than others in the picture. It's not because they are born incapable of understanding it. They just have no need for it since the natural world eclipses such abstractions.

Then why do tests done with Mexicans and Africans born in the US display exactly the same results ?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4ify7vDXrDs/R1HljHAlzpI/AAAAAAAABTw/OlKaZOqUClA/s1600-R/iq-test.eu.png

macdon

17-09-2009, 05:02 PM

why mention that they are black?
when you describe people, do you always mention their colour, regardless?

just curious, "Diversity" a bunch of talentless kids would have sufficed IMHO.

ps,
not flaming or trying to aggrivate to you :)
Why the heck do you care? I've got brown hair, brown eyes and, oh yeah, white skin. I'm also 177cm tall. I could go on, but that's enough.

I'm proud of all this too!

kingmonkey

17-09-2009, 05:06 PM

Then why do tests done with Mexicans and Africans born in the US display exactly the same results ?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4ify7vDXrDs/R1HljHAlzpI/AAAAAAAABTw/OlKaZOqUClA/s1600-R/iq-test.eu.png

Because they're both marginalized minority groups with a lower level of education.

Don't you find it curious that two separate races have the same result? Or are you alleging that all non white people have the same level of stupidity? Where's the chart from?

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:08 PM

Because they're both marginalized minority groups with a lower level of education.

Don't you find it curious that two separate races have the same result? Or are you alleging that all non white people have the same level of stupidity? Where's the chart from?

That's just special pleading I'm afraid. And in any case, the hispanics score better than blacks, despite their similar level of marginalisation. And how do you explain the fact that orientals score higher than whites? Are their prospects better than those of whites?

bendoon

17-09-2009, 05:15 PM

Or are you alleging that all non white people have the same level of stupidity? Where's the chart from?

Don't be lazy there are similar charts all over the web, and its not alleging anything its just the plain simple truth.

Because they're both marginalized minority groups with a lower level of education.

PC gobbledegook, if you had been washed up on a desert island when you were 6 months old and never seen another human you would still have the same IQ as you do now, intelligence and education are not connected in any way.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 05:21 PM

Then why do tests done with Mexicans and Africans born in the US display exactly the same results ?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4ify7vDXrDs/R1HljHAlzpI/AAAAAAAABTw/OlKaZOqUClA/s1600-R/iq-test.eu.png

Maybe because the descendents of these naturalistic cultures are having difficulty adjusting to a very unnatural one.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 05:24 PM

if you were had been washed up on a desert island when you were 6 months old and never seen another human you would still have the same IQ as you do now, intelligence and education are not connected in any way.

Is that so? Hard to believe. My daughter has been read to every single day of her life and had far more attention than most of her peers. Guess what? She is a linguistic genius according to a formal IQ test. Who woulda think it? :confused:

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:26 PM

Maybe because the descendents of these naturalistic cultures are having difficulty adjusting to a very unnatural one.

Europeans adapted to the very same thing, so in effect you're actually agreeing with the premise.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 05:27 PM

Europeans adapted to the very same thing, so in effect you're actually agreeing with the premise.

The unnatural culture I speak of developed in Europe, so not really.

bendoon

17-09-2009, 05:28 PM

Maybe because the descendents of these naturalistic cultures are having difficulty adjusting to a very unnatural one.

Yes, you could be right there. The point is that there are differences between races other than colour, whatever the PC brigade says. It might just be that the differences are there because of the natural habitat that each race found themselves in.

But sadly we get the same suspects who always resort to name calling to try and stifle discussion on these matters.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:31 PM

Yes, you could be right there. The point is that there are differences between races other than colour, whatever the PC brigade says. It might just be that the differences are there because of the natural habitat that each race found themselves in.

But sadly we get the same suspects who always resort to name calling to try and stifle discussion on these matters.

Isn't it blatantly noticeable how no one ever comments about how blacks dominate sprinting events and other such races?

zenith82

17-09-2009, 05:35 PM

Isn't it blatantly noticeable how no one ever comments about how blacks dominate sprinting events and other such races?

Thats more to do with their sporting prowess than anything else.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:37 PM

Thats more to do with their sporting prowess than anything else.

Yes, that's rather the point. Why are blacks better at sport? How is it possible that blacks are better at sport if the only difference between races is skin colour?

redskywalker

17-09-2009, 05:37 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NvImAq3oaNA/SgvZqMALX8I/AAAAAAAAA0M/F5QKNFWanpc/s400/racist-brain-ad.jpg

supertzar

17-09-2009, 05:38 PM

Isn't it blatantly noticeable how no one ever comments about how blacks dominate sprinting events and other such races?

I don't know about where you live, but it is pretty well accepted over here that a high percentage of elite athletes are African in origin. It's kind of hard to deny. Personally I appreciate all the different types of human beings and their talents. Black musicians pretty much rule, too. What would the modern world be like without Blues, Jazz and Rock'n'Roll?

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:39 PM

I don't know about where you live, but it is pretty well accepted over here that a high percentage of elite athletes are African in origin. It's kind of hard to deny. Personally I appreciate all the different types of human beings and their talents. Black musicians pretty much rule, too. What would the modern world be like without Blues, Jazz and Rock'n'Roll?

Again, proof that different races have different talents.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:41 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NvImAq3oaNA/SgvZqMALX8I/AAAAAAAAA0M/F5QKNFWanpc/s400/racist-brain-ad.jpg

Typical. Instead of trying to counter the arguments, you are attempting to stop them by personal attacks.

zenith82

17-09-2009, 05:41 PM

Yes, that's rather the point. Why are blacks better at sport? How is it possible that blacks are better at sport if the only difference between races is skin colour?

There are some key physical differences, different levels of ability, agility, speed etc, but thats not enough to say that black people are better at sports, thats far too general a statement.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:43 PM

There are some key physical differences, different levels of ability, agility, speed etc, but thats not enough to say that black people are better at sports, thats far too general a statement.

We are only talking about averages here. And in fact only certain types of sports as well. Especially those that involve running.

zenith82

17-09-2009, 05:43 PM

Typical. Instead of trying to counter the arguments, you are attempting to stop them by personal attacks.

I need to ask why have you taken that as a personal attack? there was no direct dialogue with you merely an image that only racist folk would take offence to.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:44 PM

I need to ask why have you taken that as a personal attack? there was no direct dialogue with you merely an image that only racist folk would take offence to.

And those who feel they are unfairly being branded a racist.

redskywalker

17-09-2009, 05:46 PM

Stating the obvious can never be seen or taken as a personal attack.
WOULD YOU CARE FOR SOME FISH FINGERS TO GO WITH THAT LARGE CHIP YOU APPEAR TO BE CARRYING? :D

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:47 PM

No thanks I'm a vegetarian.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 05:51 PM

Again, proof that different races have different talents.

Evidence, sure. Of course there are differences. I am cool with that. Not really cool with the thread title. For one I wouldn't call these people talentless and I can't see how they could reasonably be described as a bunch of black kids.

I don't support Affirmative Action. To me it is racist to give a certain racial group special privelages. I have been called a "sick, disgusting racist" for this and I think it is ridiculous. I want to change the world so that it is so good for all of us no one would ever think of special privelages.

redskywalker

17-09-2009, 05:52 PM

wonders what the fishy smell is then

supertzar

17-09-2009, 05:55 PM

wonders what the fishy smell is then

Could it be emanating from between the chaste, well-developed thighs of Frya herself?

swethirte

17-09-2009, 05:59 PM

Evidence, sure. Of course there are differences. I am cool with that. Not really cool with the thread title. For one I wouldn't call these people talentless and I can't see how they could reasonably be described as a bunch of black kids.

I don't support Affirmative Action. To me it is racist to give a certain racial group special privelages. I have been called a "sick, disgusting racist" for this and I think it is ridiculous. I want to change the world so that it is so good for all of us no one would ever think of special privelages.

And that's the problem. All around us people from ethnic minorities are given fast tracks to jobs. If you want to be a teacher, for example, you can get the course paid for completely, if you're black.

swethirte

17-09-2009, 06:00 PM

Could it be emanating from between the chaste, well-developed thighs of Frya herself?

I don't find that particularly amusing.

kingmonkey

17-09-2009, 06:03 PM

if you had been washed up on a desert island when you were 6 months old and never seen another human you would still have the same IQ as you do now, intelligence and education are not connected in any way.

What a load of bollocks. The IQ test has written language and maths does it not? Then how do you put a person that's been on a desert island all their life against someone who's been at school and expect them to answer the questions similarly? Most of the IQ test is based round education, and what's more their culturally bias in the west towards first language english speakers. So in essence, if you don't speak english well or have less education, you'll suffer a little bit from the desert island syndrome; ie, not being intellectually able to answer the questions. IQ tests are not an accurate way of judging intelligence. The issue is not with IQ, but with the test. Minorities who are known to have lower education levels within a given society are at a disadvantage.

Same can be said for whites; give a deprived area with less education the test compared with say, a higher class area with good schools, higher attendance rates, they'll do better. Give both of them practical tasks, there's often no difference. But you won't be interested in data like that will you, because it muddles your white/black issue up.

The very nature of iq tests are academic and favour the better educated.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 06:04 PM

I don't find that particularly amusing.

So sorry, my frigid friend. :(

swethirte

17-09-2009, 06:06 PM

What a load of bollocks. The IQ test has written language and maths does it not? Then how do you put a person that's been on a desert island all their life against someone who's been at school and expect them to answer the questions similarly? Most of the IQ test is based round education, and what's more their culturally bias in the west towards first language english speakers. So in essence, if you don't speak english well or have less education, you'll suffer a little bit from the desert island symptoms; ie, not being intellectually able to answer the questions. IQ tests are not an accurate way of judging intelligence. The issue is not with IQ, but with the test. Minorities who are known to have lower education levels within a given society are at a disadvantage.

Or at least, that's the excuse. IQ tests are available in all languages, and do indeed assume minimum requirements such as being able to read. After that, they are based around reasoning, logic, and such. There are also special ones available for kids, and the results in those cases have to be adjusted.

redskywalker

17-09-2009, 06:07 PM

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swethirte

17-09-2009, 06:07 PM

So sorry, my frigid friend. :(

I'm not frigid, in fact I have a very well developed sex drive. I just choose to channel it elsewhere.

supertzar

17-09-2009, 06:09 PM

And that's the problem. All around us people from ethnic minorities are given fast tracks to jobs. If you want to be a teacher, for example, you can get the course paid for completely, if you're black.

I agree. It's not good. When my position was being made into a permanent position I had been doing it for a year and was the preferred candidate. I had to wait for weeks to find out if the job was still mine because the public University had targets to meet for hiring women and minorities. None applied for the job, so it remained mine. Would I have been pissed if they got someone else less qualified, though!

swethirte

17-09-2009, 06:11 PM

I agree. It's not good. When my position was being made into a permanent position I had been doing it for a year and was the preferred candidate. I had to wait for weeks to find out if the job was still mine because the public University had targets to meet for hiring women and minorities. None applied for the job, so it remained mine. Would I have been pissed if they got someone else less qualified, though!

I agree totally. In fact, as a woman I also abhore positive sexual discrimination too, because it's obvious to me that women are better at certain things than men, and vice versa.

themime

17-09-2009, 09:10 PM

Mr Brown said their achievements were "a small snapshot of how much skill, talent and potential young people have to offer our country".

"There is so much talent in young people out there, waiting to be discovered and developed so they too can achieve their dreams."

Yes that's right kids of Britain dance away your intelligence while the world goes to Hell.

bendoon

18-09-2009, 02:51 AM

What a load of bollocks.

snip.

Look, you are just going round in circles trying to deny reality. Asians have the largest brain size, followed by Europeans and then Africans, and whooo big surprise thats also the order of intelligence.

Thats just a plain fact, so you can come out with all the mumbo jumbo PC jargon and platitudes you like, but you can't change reality and personally I can't see why people want to, especially on the DI forum where we are supposed to be "exposing the dreamworld we believe to be real"

mrerisian

18-09-2009, 06:57 AM

You don't find similar people elsewhere?

You don't think that some of them are here to intentionally discredit the debates.

Nope, I do not. They're not agents or whatever. They're idiots attracted to a simple world view inherent in conspiracy theory.

Hence the confusion when asked for things like proof:

Lol. I'm a woman.

As for proof of what going on, just look around you, and especially at the media. Black "culture" (if that's the right word) is rammed down our throats at every possible opportunity.

That only proves one thing. The opening poster is a moron.

kingmonkey

18-09-2009, 12:01 PM

Look, you are just going round in circles trying to deny reality. Asians have the largest brain size, followed by Europeans and then Africans, and whooo big surprise thats also the order of intelligence.

According to who? And on what data and method?

(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=neurosci.box.1833)

bendoon

18-09-2009, 05:15 PM

According to who? And on what data and method?

Do you need lessons in googling or something :D

kingmonkey

18-09-2009, 06:59 PM

Do you need lessons in googling or something :D

You know as well as I that there are different methods/results related to researching brain size/shape vs intelligence. or if you don't you should. I was asking you what data you were using to base your opinion on. I could google all day long and find different studies.

supertzar

18-09-2009, 07:05 PM

kingmonkey

18-09-2009, 07:15 PM

Brain size isn't necessarily correlated to intelligence. Neanderthals had larger brains, but probably weren't more intelligent than modern humans (maybe they were?) It's more about the number of folds in the surface of the brain from what I've heard.

Don't know about folds, but what is correlated re: brain size is the size of particular parts of the brain,and their structure which varies as much between individuals as racial groups.

That's why I wanted to know what data/study method bendoon is referring to. It's an area with a lot of conflicting positions.