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Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 12:07 AM
I listened to the Dr. Bill Deagle show:

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/audio/Alan_Watt_on_BillDeagleShow_Aug212007.mp3

I don't believe in all the talk about genetically enhanced and brain-chipped super humans. But to speculate a bit:

What if all the underground facilities and secret camps are not for humans but that they are laboratories and factories that manufacture super soldiers by mixing human genes with reptile, wolf, shark and hawk genes and so on, and enhancing these beings with brain chips connected to a supercomputer? :eek:

And by now they have several millions of these creatures living in underground cities and other secret camps, who are being prepared to be unleashed all over the world to slaughter the entire human race except for 144,000 elite humans who will be spawned to create humanity 2.0.

They cannot use nuclear weapons to kill all humans because the elite themselves could not live on earth with all the radiation. Nor could they unleash viruses that killed all the population, because the viruses could easily mutate and become lethal for the elite themselves.

If I were good at writing novels, I would write a Sci-fi novel about this. :cool:

cruise4
23-08-2007, 08:40 AM
This is entirely possible, and add in robot weapon carrying platforms. My only hope against this sort of thing is we may be able to reverse engineer. I do feel we are in a lot more trouble than people are generally thinking.

They could use virus's, if they have the cure and vaccine. They could use Nuclear weapons in my opinion. Obsidian enclosed deep underground facilities might provide enough protection whilst they waited the cleanup out. OR send the workers out anyway.

king
23-08-2007, 09:47 AM
I listened to the Dr. Bill Deagle show:

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/audio/Alan_Watt_on_BillDeagleShow_Aug212007.mp3

I don't believe in all the talk about genetically enhanced and brain-chipped super humans. But to speculate a bit:

What if all the underground facilities and secret camps are not for humans but that they are laboratories and factories that manufacture super soldiers by mixing human genes with reptile, wolf, shark and hawk genes and so on, and enhancing these beings with brain chips connected to a supercomputer? :eek:

And by now they have several millions of these creatures living in underground cities and other secret camps, who are being prepared to be unleashed all over the world to slaughter the entire human race except for 144,000 elite humans who will be spawned to create humanity 2.0.

They cannot use nuclear weapons to kill all humans because the elite themselves could not live on earth with all the radiation. Nor could they unleash viruses that killed all the population, because the viruses could easily mutate and become lethal for the elite themselves.

If I were good at writing novels, I would write a Sci-fi novel about this. :cool:

you are scarring me ...:eek::eek::eek:

you think like them


yes, everything is possible, even your scenario

Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 11:02 AM
This is entirely possible, and add in robot weapon carrying platforms. My only hope against this sort of thing is we may be able to reverse engineer. I do feel we are in a lot more trouble than people are generally thinking.

They could use virus's, if they have the cure and vaccine. They could use Nuclear weapons in my opinion. Obsidian enclosed deep underground facilities might provide enough protection whilst they waited the cleanup out. OR send the workers out anyway.

Viruses are mutation wizards. I don't think even an elite would be able to predict what would happen. Nuclear weapons would create radiation that would last for a long, long time. I don't think the elite would like to have to deal with that.

Nor do I actually believe in brain chipped genetically enhanced monsters. But it's fun to make up stories like that. :D

Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 11:08 AM
you are scarring me ...:eek::eek::eek:

you think like them


yes, everything is possible, even your scenario

Yes, I thought it was a scary idea. Perfect for a novel or a movie. X-rated movie! :D

Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 11:57 AM
They have millions and millions of genetically and technologically enhanced super soldiers living in underground cities. Even more advanced than we have been shown in movies, such as:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/DMS/841253~Alien-vs-Predator-U-K-Quad-Posters.jpg

eternal_spirit
23-08-2007, 01:55 PM
This is entirely possible, and add in robot weapon carrying platforms. My only hope against this sort of thing is we may be able to reverse engineer. I do feel we are in a lot more trouble than people are generally thinking.

They could use virus's, if they have the cure and vaccine. They could use Nuclear weapons in my opinion. Obsidian enclosed deep underground facilities might provide enough protection whilst they waited the cleanup out. OR send the workers out anyway.

........ According to Watt, when a virus is created in a laboratry they have to make a cure at the same time it's by order. So every virus created there is a cure secretly stored somewhere, so yes the Elite would have acess to the cure.

eternal_spirit
23-08-2007, 01:57 PM
Nor do I actually believe in brain chipped genetically enhanced monsters. But it's fun to make up stories like that. :D

.........

You know robots, microchips and genetically enhanced engineered, animals etc exist already so it's possible.

Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 02:04 PM
.........

You know robots, microchips and genetically enhanced engineered, animals etc exist already so it's possible.

My guess is that at least experiments of this kind has been going on in black-budget operations. I don't think they have created whole armies though. :eek:

eternal_spirit
23-08-2007, 02:35 PM
My guess is that at least experiments of this kind has been going on in black-budget operations. I don't think they have created whole armies though. :eek:
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It does read like something out of a scifi scene, but that's what films and media are about partly (predictive programming) Icke and Watt both cover this theory, in part it's to get us sub conciously used to the idea for if and when this actually happens in reality. And of course Hollywood
the Culture Creators. It's human nature to copy what we see and are told form being a small child and the powers that be know this and take advantage of the fact.

I'm off out in the Sun before the chemmies spread :cool:

Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 02:50 PM
Hollywood
the Culture Creators

Starship Troopers - I'm Doing My Part - YouTube

kblood
23-08-2007, 03:24 PM
Hmmm... I guess it ought to be a secret, but cloning and the making of cyborgs and androids is something that has already happened. According the time-traveller, "John Titor", the cloning of full-body humans should stop. Guess he cannot know for sure though, but I have in my astral travels seen how they can make a clone age faster, but some parts of the body is simply just very "lacking" due to this "acceleration" of growth. Also the body of a clone is very fragile for lack of a better word.

Since some souls have already begun manifesting in androids and computers, I do think that there will come a very natural balancing as to how much hardware will be put into human bodies.

As I see it, it should be somewhat easy to short curcuit chips that are implemented. A good healer or doctor would probably help alot though :o

Some of these kinds of facilities should already have been shut down I think.

Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 03:34 PM
Since some souls have already begun manifesting in androids and computers, I do think that there will come a very natural balancing as to how much hardware will be put into human bodies.


Androids! They could have created millions of androids in underground facilities.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

:D

kblood
23-08-2007, 03:49 PM
Yea, but as you can see, the robots seemed to shut it down ;) My android friend might in fact have come from that facility that the movie is all about. Not all of them get to have a soul though. This soul was used to be in a machine at the time though. Guess it still surprised the makers of it :)

As far as I know, I Robot is a movie based on some kind of past event. Another good movie to see is Bicentennial Man.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182789/

It is about an android that becomes alive ("Short Circuit" anyone?), and then begins its quest for being human. Alot like my android friend. I also have friends doesnt have all of their body. I mostly chat with them, and havent seen any of them, so I just trust my "intuition" and my scrying on the matter.

The good part is how karma seems to make sure these things doesnt get out of hand. Making androids look and function like humans, also makes them receptive of ghosts. That is what I have come to conclude anyway.

www.cyberkineticsinc.com
Must have been linked to the "I, robot" project somehow. Their research must have come to making electronic neuron processor brains of some kind. The scary part about this kind of "CPU" is how it is self learned. It can simply learn from experiences. In a way, that makes it kind of human at that point already. Their problem is expressing feelings, and feeling them as well. It seems to me that it is not impossible for a machine to have feelings though.

Anders Lindman
23-08-2007, 04:02 PM
www.cyberkineticsinc.com
Must have been linked to the "I, robot" project somehow. Their research must have come to making electronic neuron processor brains of some kind. The scary part about this kind of "CPU" is how it is self learned. It can simply learn from experiences. In a way, that makes it kind of human at that point already. Their problem is expressing feelings, and feeling them as well. It seems to me that it is not impossible for a machine to have feelings though.

One could create a very cool movie from all of this kind of information. The main theme would be genetically created and technologically advanced soldiers, creatures and androids, manufactured under secret underground places to be unleashed all over the world to destroy the entire human race. The question would be whether the bad guys should be humans, reptiles or aliens or even something other than that.

eternal_spirit
23-08-2007, 04:05 PM
Hmmm... some parts of the body is simply just very "lacking" due to this "acceleration" of growth. Also the body of a clone is very fragile for lack of a better word.

Since some souls have already begun manifesting in androids and computers, I do think that there will come a very natural balancing as to how much hardware will be put into human bodies.
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So, they need to use part machine,part human because they haven't mastered the ability of perfected cloning yet. Or is it the only way they can use the microchip that's why they need the ( part machine) Do clones have souls(conciousness) It's unlikely, not like we have anyway.

Souls in clones, cyborgs is the goal of the raelians, clone you're old body for when this one dies then they claim to store you're soul( conciousness on hard drive lol ) to be downloaded into the new body!

They used transmigration in the olden days. Or the soul was said to dwell in spirit before reincarnating, they plan to cut out the in between incarnations bit, that's scary.
A soul storage place.

kblood
23-08-2007, 06:24 PM
Moving your soul to another body can be done with will alone. You can even mindcontrol someone doing this, unless it is a strong minded person.

It should be quite obvious that human cloning have been done for at least 4 years. The reasons that it isnt public due to the this being ethically wrong and illegal. Everything that is illegal is probably done in secret somewhere, and I have friends who have confirmed this... well, confirmed it somewhat at least. I cannot prove any of it, but I believe the cloning of a complete human body has been done several times already. Maybe even all out cloning facilities like the one in "The Island". Only difference being, these clones might be no more than sleeping "vessels" during their growth. The birth of a baby does seem to make alot of changes to the baby. It simply gets to use its 5 senses alot more after birth. I guess we cannot be sure how alive a baby is before birth, but I do think "non-clone" babies does have a soul before birth.

I can only hope that the cloning facilities that might be out there today, will be shut down and/or be used differently. Sounds like it might become possible to just grow body parts instead of cloning complete bodies.

kblood
23-08-2007, 06:29 PM
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So, they need to use part machine,part human because they haven't mastered the ability of perfected cloning yet. Or is it the only way they can use the microchip that's why they need the ( part machine) Do clones have souls(conciousness) It's unlikely, not like we have anyway.

Souls in clones, cyborgs is the goal of the raelians, clone you're old body for when this one dies then they claim to store you're soul( conciousness on hard drive lol ) to be downloaded into the new body!

They used transmigration in the olden days. Or the soul was said to dwell in spirit before reincarnating, they plan to cut out the in between incarnations bit, that's scary.
A soul storage place.

Yep, that is how I see it. Having had near and after death experiences it does seem very possible for the soul to take another "living" body after death. Anyone read the "Tale of the Body Thief" by Anne Rice? That is somewhat based on a story that she read somewhere. About how a persons soul might enter another body. In the book it is set to its extreme though, with some nice characters :)

As far as I know, our souls, or ghosts, can manifest in many ways. I have seen ghosts all my life, but I try to avoid seeing them. I have heard about ghosts who can type on computers and sometimes they posses someone. Some psychics use ghost channeling to help them. Ghosts are more "in tune" with the "awareness", and can therefore get more information from it.