A 'Dream Web' to understand the 5th Dimension

[mr_moon]

Hello ladies and gentlemen.

I have had a flash of inspiration. An idea that could help us to understand the activity of the 5th Dimension.

Collective consciousness is a powerful, untapped tool. We are not using it to its full potential and i think an experiment would be a fantastic way to observe some changes in the way we exist!

I believe we can do this with our dreams- especially if we connect them all together in a forum and link the common themes etc... to pull the activity of the 5th Dimension into a comprehensible 3rd / 4th Dimension.

We may discover our sub-conscious being manipulated and how. We may discover what we need to do in order to accomplish certain things we want to see in the World. Who knows but i feel it will be an exciting journey nontheless!!

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

[Anders Lindman]

Collective consciousness is a powerful, untapped tool.

I like to visualize collective consciousness as a massive telepathic ability. It would then be possible to use one's mind to see through everything and receive information from the whole world. BUT, this telepathic ability will not access private information. It will not break people's or organizations integrity. It CAN use private and the most secret information, because it cuts through everything, but only to get the bigger picture, not to access the concrete private information itself.

For example, when using this ability, I would be able to penetrate even the darkest secrets of the Illuminati, but I will not be able to tell specific details about the information. I would be able to access all the information in the minds of all people, but I would not be able to read a person's mind, because the information would be totally collective, not individual. Individual information would still be kept totally private. The collective information would be like an ocean. I can access the ocean, but I cannot identify individual droplets. So the collective consciousness would be an extra ability and not something that could replace person-to-person communication. That would be a hive-mind, and we would then all become Borgs. :eek:

[mr_moon]

I like to visualize collective consciousness as a massive telepathic ability. It would then be possible to use one's mind to see through everything and receive information from the whole world. BUT, this telepathic ability will not access private information. It will not break people's or organizations integrity. It CAN use private and the most secret information, because it cuts through everything, but only to get the bigger picture, not to access the concrete private information itself.

For example, when using this ability, I would be able to penetrate even the darkest secrets of the Illuminati, but I will not be able to tell specific details about the information. I would be able to access all the information in the minds of all people, but I would not be able to read a person's mind, because the information would be totally collective, not individual. Individual information would still be kept totally private. The collective information would be like an ocean. I can access the ocean, but I cannot identify individual droplets. So the collective consciousness would be an extra ability and not something that could replace person-to-person communication. That would be a hive-mind, and we would then all become Borgs. :eek:

I just thought it would be interesting to see a World Perspective on what was occurring in the 5th Dimension, so we could understand how it operates as a whole and manifests things in 3D.

[Anders Lindman]

I just thought it would be interesting to see a World Perspective on what was occurring in the 5th Dimension, so we could understand how it operates as a whole and manifests things in 3D.

I think collective consciousness could be used as a powerful tool for understanding things. But I believe collective consciousness is blind to details. For details we need individual consciousness. If I want to know specific information, then I will still have to ask someone or do a search on Wikipedia for example. And even accessing information outside the physical 3D spectrum must then be done with individual consciousness.

[Anders Lindman]

And even accessing information outside the physical 3D spectrum must then be done with individual consciousness.

A Dream Web would as I see it be a group consciousness, not a collective consciousness. It depends on what definitions we use of course, but I think of collective consciousness as collective free will, and since it is free it is not bound to a particular agenda.

A Dream Web would be a group of people who join together to try to synchronize their dreams to go into the 5th dimension, do astral travel together or other such activities. That would be group consciousness. The same with meditation events or law of attraction practice done by a group of people. It would be group consciousness. And the advantage of group consciousness is that it can deal with specific details, just as an individual consciousness, whereas collective consciousness is blind to details and specific information and events. But again, that depends on how we define these different types of consciousness.

[mr_moon]

A Dream Web would as I see it be a group consciousness, not a collective consciousness. It depends on what definitions we use of course, but I think of collective consciousness as collective free will, and since it is free it is not bound to a particular agenda.

A Dream Web would be a group of people who join together to try to synchronize their dreams to go into the 5th dimension, do astral travel together or other such activities. That would be group consciousness. The same with meditation events or law of attraction practice done by a group of people. It would be group consciousness. And the advantage of group consciousness is that it can deal with specific details, just as an individual consciousness, whereas collective consciousness is blind to details and specific information and events. But again, that depends on how we define these different types of consciousness.

Well you see i think we are doing this already... we are all dreaming on the same plane and experiencing the same things but in different places on the Dream Plane.

This is why i feel it would be interesting to carry out such an experiment as a Worldwide task- being able to explore the 5th Dimension as a group (which i suppose it would be as you rightly say) would give us a great insight into what is going on in there.

[Anders Lindman]

Well you see i think we are doing this already... we are all dreaming on the same plane and experiencing the same things but in different places on the Dream Plane.

This is why i feel it would be interesting to carry out such an experiment as a Worldwide task- being able to explore the 5th Dimension as a group (which i suppose it would be as you rightly say) would give us a great insight into what is going on in there.

I found this book:

Amazon.com: Group Dreaming: Dreams to the Tenth Power (9780972910323): Jean Campbell: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SSJS83MFL.@@AMEPARAM@@51SSJS83MFL

Looks like serious stuff!

[mr_moon]

I found this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Group-Dreaming-Dreams-Tenth-Power/dp/0972910328

Looks like serious stuff!

Oh me oh my!

It's already in operation!!

This is fantastic news- i'll see if i can find the website...

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

[friendsinthesky]

Hello ladies and gentlemen.

I have had a flash of inspiration. An idea that could help us to understand the activity of the 5th Dimension.


That's great mr_moon, BUT what can you tell me about the 1st and 2nd dimension?

[mr_moon]

That's great mr_moon, BUT what can you tell me about the 1st and 2nd dimension?

The 1st dimension is a perception that nothing exists beyond here to there. A Line or Point A to point B and nothing more. Point X.

The 2nd Dimension is a perception of things being flat without any concept of the 3rd dimension- so X and Y appear the consciousness and things get bigger. Sideways movement is possible after all!

The 3rd dimension is a perception of X, Y and Z. We can move in any direction and therefore objects exist in all directions. Solid matter.

The 4th Dimension is a perception of Time. It is not solid but we know that it exists in some form- even though not solid. We understand that 3D objects exist in both 3D and 4D simultaneously, although 3D perception is lower in frequency than 4D perception. 3D objects DISSOLVE in 4 Dimensional Space.

The 5th Dimension is our Perception of THOUGHT and IMAGINATION. 3D and 4D perceptions exist here but dissolve in it quite easily, just as 3D dissolves in 4D- 4D dissolves in 5D. This is the Dimension in which Energy exists. Time does not really exist here and can be disintegrated just as 3D objects can be disintegrated in the 3D world.

Anything that exists as thought or Energy in the 5th Dimension passes down through the 4th dimension and into the 3rd dimension- this is the Knowledge that the Ancient Civilisations posessed and they understood that anything could be manifested into the 3rd Dimension by thought and dreams alone...

...This is why they saw the pyramids as such important machines. They understood the levels of consciousness or the different dimensions that exist!

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

[auron]

The 1st dimension is a perception that nothing exists beyond here to there. A Line or Point A to point B and nothing more. Point X.

The 2nd Dimension is a perception of things being flat without any concept of the 3rd dimension- so X and Y appear the consciousness and things get bigger. Sideways movement is possible after all!

The 3rd dimension is a perception of X, Y and Z. We can move in any direction and therefore objects exist in all directions. Solid matter.

The 4th Dimension is a perception of Time. It is not solid but we know that it exists in some form- even though not solid. We understand that 3D objects exist in both 3D and 4D simultaneously, although 3D perception is lower in frequency than 4D perception. 3D objects DISSOLVE in 4 Dimensional Space.

The 5th Dimension is our Perception of THOUGHT and IMAGINATION. 3D and 4D perceptions exist here but dissolve in it quite easily, just as 3D dissolves in 4D- 4D dissolves in 5D. This is the Dimension in which Energy exists. Time does not really exist here and can be disintegrated just as 3D objects can be disintegrated in the 3D world.

Anything that exists as thought or Energy in the 5th Dimension passes down through the 4th dimension and into the 3rd dimension- this is the Knowledge that the Ancient Civilisations posessed and they understood that anything could be manifested into the 3rd Dimension by thought and dreams alone...

...This is why they saw the pyramids as such important machines. They understood the levels of consciousness or the different dimensions that exist!

Much Love,

Jay
xxx



Nice explanation there Mr Moon. :)

[Anders Lindman]

The 5th Dimension is our Perception of THOUGHT and IMAGINATION.

That is correct! I haven't thought about it that way before. When I think about the past or the future, then that is a movement in a fifth dimension. The thought is not moving physically as a 3D object. Nor is the thought moving along with the fourth dimension which is time. The thought is sliding backward and forward perpendicular to the actual movement of time, i.e. the thought moves in another dimension than time itself.

[kblood]

Nice post :)
I guess the 5th dimension is also the one used for scrying then. I think your eyes might turn all white when scrying... or so I have been told ;) As far as I know, you "open" your mind while scrying, by closing your eyes. Thereby telepathy, and thoughts get much stronger. Can give quite a headache, unless focused on something specific. I guess the books and so on that have been linked are good at explaining how to do it.

I usually try to stick with my 5 senses, since it seems to drain your own energy when using other abilities, and they can be quite hard to stop using, a while after. Opening your mind to it is one thing, getting back to a normal state of mind is the hard part. For me anyway. Different for all of us I believe.

[mr_moon]

Nice post :)
I guess the 5th dimension is also the one used for scrying then. I think your eyes might turn all white when scrying... or so I have been told ;) As far as I know, you "open" your mind while scrying, by closing your eyes. Thereby telepathy, and thoughts get much stronger. Can give quite a headache, unless focused on something specific. I guess the books and so on that have been linked are good at explaining how to do it.

I usually try to stick with my 5 senses, since it seems to drain your own energy when using other abilities, and they can be quite hard to stop using, a while after. Opening your mind to it is one thing, getting back to a normal state of mind is the hard part. For me anyway. Different for all of us I believe.

The real key is to exist in ALL of these dimensions at the same time- which we do anyway- but to be aware of it and akcnowledge it. It doesn't mean we shouldn't exist in the 3rd dimension because obviously this is where we are right now! We shouldn't even FOCUS on other Dimensions but to acknowledge even its existence as a reality, is important groundwork for experiencing it unavoidably one day...

We are experiencing Energy Shifts and Transitional periods in all aspects of our lives now both personally and collectively and we are being encouraged to keep OUT of the 5th Dimension and stay in the 3rd and 4th. Now as the Beings that we are, staying in those dimensions when we are evolving BEYOND that is going to be stressful, conflicting and confusing.

This is why I feel it would be an exciting and useful activity, to explore the 5th Dimension as a group to see what's going on there! Acknowledging that when we dream, we are essentially in the 5th Dimensional Realm, i feel would be a fantastic eye-opener!!

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

[kblood]

I cant really control it much. Sometimes I am shown visions of the future or the past. Sometimes I know something is going to happen, before it does. Usually I just try to keep my mind focused on simple things in the present just to avoid it. When I do try to focus it though, and I have some good reason to do so, it seems quite easy for me. Scrying directly 5th dimension style, seems to take quite a toll on the mind though. Maybe because I was asking an ambigious question, that I then sent flowing to other minds that I know of. I thought some of them might have had an answer, but all I got back was "leave me alone" and so on. Biggest problem was that it was all at once, so I could not really distingious any one voice. This is the only time I did it conciously though. As far as I remember, and my memory seems to show me things I have forgotten alot, since I usually have periods where I get alot of new knowledge in a very short time. Takes time to get this knowledge fully into the memory I believe. It is like watching a movie on 8x speed, then having to remember everything later. With hypnosis for example, the mind can focus its memory, or when a situation makes you remember something.

Also, most people dont have a clear memory of all that happens during out of body travels. When possessed most people forgot what they are saying while being so. I think the memory is still in our head after, just takes longer to dig out. Some memories are regretable to get back though. I once hoped to just forgot everything. Every time I helped someone, just because I knew how to. Every time something bad happened, or every memory of something bad going to happen or happening somewhere else. I have begun trying not to hide these things from myself anymore. Seems I sometimes really need to make sure my memory is correct, so that I can make the right choices.

In groups it should be easier to use all the dimensions better, only problem is that it all can have more serious side effects as well.