A-slop-bucket@home or Ministers-plan-impose-fines

[richardhastings]

Plans are being considered which could see people fined up to £500 for failing to recycle food scraps.
It could mean a slop bucket - or a kitchen caddy - is issued to every home across the UK.

Under the scheme, supported by Environment Secretary Hilary Benn, councils would be able to introduce fines of between £80 and £500


When I was a child we had a 5 gallon drum to put our food waste in. These were collected by a lorry every week and taken to a pig farm. The driver left an empty drum and so the process continued..

Don't pigs eat food scraps now? We use far too much packaging and plastics. Lets go back to spud bags and fresh vegetables! One word describes today's consumers - LAZY (that includes me).

[kweli]

When I was a child we had a 5 gallon drum to put our food waste in. These were collected by a lorry every week and taken to a pig farm. The driver left an empty drum and so the process continued..

Don't pigs eat food scraps now? We use far too much packaging and plastics. Lets go back to spud bags and fresh vegetables! One word describes today's consumers - LAZY (that includes me).

You have a good point but I don't believe it's all our fault. I believe it's been engineered this way - planned to make us pay more & more & more...

I grew up in a mining village; everybody had coal fires back then and most of the rubbish was burnt. All we had was one of those small galvanised bins for a family of six, yet we managed just fine. Glass bottles had a deposit on them - so if you took them back to the shop you'd get money back. We also had an old lady that lived next door but one, she kept pigs on her allotment and all the neighbourhood kids took the food waste (potato peelings etc..) to her in exchange for some fusty sweeties wrapped up in a cone of newspaper. - happy memories. :)

[decim]

Woodburning stove.

[grenadene]

I'm always shocked at how much rubbish some people produce especially when they take no responsibility for how it is disposed of. Surely we have to take responsibility for the whole life cycle of the products that we buy? We are humans not pets that the council has a responsibility to clean out.

[richardhastings]

I'm always shocked at how much rubbish some people produce especially when they take no responsibility for how it is disposed of. Surely we have to take responsibility for the whole life cycle of the products that we buy? We are humans not pets that the council has a responsibility to clean out.

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also sounds like a another stealth tax

all you gotta do is feed the pigs say i say

[decim]

The vast majority have no means of providing their own food (ie. land) & have to purchase shop produce.
The public does not manufacture non biodegradable packaging, manufacturers & corporations do.
We don't have a responsibility to fund a council, a private money making corporation either.

[gilly]

The vast majority have no means of providing their own food (ie. land) & have to purchase shop produce.
The public does not manufacture non biodegradable packaging, manufacturers & corporations do.
We don't have a responsibility to fund a council, a private money making corporation either.

Agreed.

And I buy 'plastic' type water resistant bags to line my kitchen compost collection bin which are completely biodegradeable, and inexpensive. (Once wet, they'll start to decompose within a few days). This stuff could easily be used for any number of other applications, so there's a lot of bollocks being pushed, as per usual, by tptb.

[grenadene]

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also sounds like a another stealth tax

all you gotta do is feed the pigs say i say

It's sad that such a huge amount of food is wasted in this country, but apparently farmers not allowed to feed household waste to pigs any more, I'm sure no one would know if it were your own....personally I don't have any.

Chickens are pretty good.... I've got a couple in my rented accommodation garden (just in case anyone thinks I've got a vast estate). Allotments cost about £25 a year and if there aren't enough, six like minded souls is all it takes to 'force' your council to reallocate some land.

Indeed the public don't produce their own packaging, but they do buy the products in the shops and ethical consumption is in my opinion sensible and responsible. Sourcing our food and eating it is one of the most vital of human activities leaving it to a band of genocidal maniacs is more than a bit crazy.

[richardhastings]

A stinking idea by a stinking Goverment, they have got to be the most inept Goverment since Labour came to be.

[enga]

A stinking idea by a stinking Goverment, they have got to be the most inept Goverment since Labour came to be.

I agree completely. I think the idea itself is good...producing less waste but stores should be encouraged to sell produce loose and separate without huge prices. The idea of recycling food waste is great but I know what this lot will do with this idea and where it'll end up. It's always MONEY. Produce too much eventually pay a fine, produce too little pay a fine. MONEY.

[leviathanstaar]

I was not included in any form of decision making regarding packaging, waste management vs funds available, ect, ect (the list is quite large)

I take nor accept any responisbility for the results of decisions I had no part in.

More need to understand that.

This notion of common people being responsible for these things at all the different levels is sickening.

They allow everything from corporate business, to production ect with little or no rules and then tell the average people 'look what you've done'

It disgusts me that people are made to beleive it now requires annoyances in their lives because of what 'they' did.

Had the space, the funds, the resources for all such problems been dealt with properly by the people drive the expensive cars this would never, EVER have been a problem.

Now they wish to convince you it's you.

Reminds me of them doing various things to ruin the atmosphere and then telling the citizen 'it's you'

[merlincove]

I was not included in any form of decision making regarding packaging, waste management vs funds available, ect, ect (the list is quite large)

I take nor accept any responisbility for the results of decisions I had no part in.

More need to understand that.

This notion of common people being responsible for these things at all the different levels is sickening.



it is trully sickening how the buck keeps getting passed. And it always ends up at our door.

Their sickening demands against the people who they are supposed to serve get more and more ridiculous and incredulous every day.

£££££££ is the end game for them, and how much they can screw out of the common family, trying its best to survive in a world of stealth taxes.

Part of me says let them carry on digging their hole, because soon the common man and woman will say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and a revolution will come. The doors of these hidden statute makers will tremble at the hammering of the people and they will know we will not lie down any more.

These pathetic 'juristictions' will tally against those who create them soon enough.

Let us hope the revolution is a peacefull one of one man saying NO followed by two men saying NO, until every voice in this land proclaims their right not to be subjigated by this bullshit any more.

i can hardly believe this BS.

[richardhastings]

Every family will keep a kitchen slop bucket according to plans for the future of rubbish collections published by Government advisers.


It said that households in areas with fortnightly rubbish collections were enthusiastic about having their food waste collected once a week.

Those who still have weekly rubbish collections were more likely to continue to put their food waste in their wheelie bin, its report said.

The scheme for weekly collection of food waste was put forward by ministers last year in the face of public opposition to the imposition of fortnightly collections in half the country.

'The Government has hit the council taxpayer with a £1.5billion bill over the next three years by going back on its undertaking to refund money raised through landfill tax to local authorities

'Rather than helping the environment, this will only lead to a surge in fly-tipping and backyard burning. Under Labour, families are paying ever more in taxes, but their local services are being cut.'


The 'old-fashioned slop bucket' that attracts maggots and flies for some beleaguered homeowners


'Slop buckets have no place in a modern society.'

[richardhastings]

:)

'Slop buckets have no place in a modern society.'

[keystone]

Sadly this has already been implemented by a council adjacent to mine. Their parishioners now have a brown wheelie bin for X, a green one for Y, a black one for something else, a box to put newsprint in and now the (tiny) slop bucket as well.

In my area we had no less than 4 refuse vehicles round on a single day last week - one to do the brown bin (general rubbish), one to do the green (recyclables), one for the nice little blue box for glass and a fourth for garden waste. My full recyclable was NOT emptied which means double next fortnight (where the hell am I supposed to put the next lot?) on the grounds that they found a tiny bit of balsa wood from a kids model in the top which was classified as "Timber - not recyclable".

Thats 4 vehicles with 4 crews and 4 lots of fuel bills and pollution - never mind the carbon footprint which is all bollocks anyway.

Are these people totally nuckin' futs?

Cheers

[kweli]

Sadly this has already been implemented by a council adjacent to mine. Their parishioners now have a brown wheelie bin for X, a green one for Y, a black one for something else, a box to put newsprint in and now the (tiny) slop bucket as well.

In my area we had no less than 4 refuse vehicles round on a single day last week - one to do the brown bin (general rubbish), one to do the green (recyclables), one for the nice little blue box for glass and a fourth for garden waste. My full recyclable was NOT emptied which means double next fortnight (where the hell am I supposed to put the next lot?) on the grounds that they found a tiny bit of balsa wood from a kids model in the top which was classified as "Timber - not recyclable".

Thats 4 vehicles with 4 crews and 4 lots of fuel bills and pollution - never mind the carbon footprint which is all bollocks anyway.

Are these people totally nuckin' futs?

Cheers

No.. we are for putting up with it.

[keystone]

No.. we are for putting up with it.Good point! But I feel better after my little rant. :D

Cheers

[yellowbentine]

My council been doing this for about 4 months now. It's working really well. They give you biodegradable bags to put in the bucket/caddy and they collect it every week. Doesn't smell at all. Goes to horticultural use and cuts down on methane produced from landfill sites. All well & good.

If they start to introduce erroneous charges for 'getting it wrong' - then that's a different matter...

[tien an]

I do this myself anyway...(except with meat scraps)...it's called a compost heap.
Then again...with Codex Alimentarius on the way...I probably won't be able to grow veg. for much longer...


I totally agree yellowbentine.


tian an.

[grenadene]

I do this myself anyway...(except with meat scraps)...it's called a compost heap.
Then again...with Codex Alimentarius on the way...I probably won't be able to grow veg. for much longer...


I totally agree yellowbentine.


tian an.

http://www.realseeds.co.uk/

join their 'seed club' for 1p a year and they'll sell you wonderful seeds :)

[enga]

Previously I said it was money as the motivation behind this but it's also largely a control issue too. If they can control what people do with their trash then they pretty well control everything.