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flox
13-09-2009, 06:43 PM
What type of planes exactly are they using to deploy chemtrails in the sky? Military or civilian?

It's a beautiful day here in Northern Ireland, and the previously clear sky has been ruined with puffy white lines. I've just watched another plane pass over which has started to deploy it.

The planes that do it always seem to stay at a high altitude.

soothseeker
13-09-2009, 06:50 PM
I too would love to know the answer to this question. I've tried putting my binoculars on them to no avail, as you say they are normally very high in the sky.

nihil
13-09-2009, 06:56 PM
Civilian airplanes dismissed by companies due to long time of use.

There will be military, but the transfers from mil. bases will make the operations
more visible.

An ld plane, out of a depot, departing without any logo seems the best choice.

Just look at the whole: http://www.scribd.com/doc/3581837/haarp-as-seen-on-google-earth

rapunzel
13-09-2009, 08:03 PM
Why are the planes flying so high? It seems very inefficient to me. When crop dusting the planes fly at treetop level so that most of the chemical gets onto the designated field. Some of the allegedly chemtrail planes are so high you can hardly see them and why do they "spray" over the ocean? since I've seen these trails way out on the open sea.

diggers_1
13-09-2009, 08:32 PM
I had this question myself. Then I found this word aerotoxic. I suggest you google it and then you will get a bigger picture. I was going to start a post on it.

http://www.aerotoxic.org/

http://www.ei-resource.org/news/general-environmental-health-news/aerotoxic-syndrome-investigated/

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/cabin-fever-a-bad-case-of-aerotoxic-syndrome-1646350.html

Aerotoxic Syndrome: Just one flight could devastate your health for years to come...

Aerotoxic Syndrome is a severely debilitating condition that can affect air passengers and aircrew after they have been exposed to noxious fumes from the jet engines entering the cabin. This is known as a "fume event".

Fume events typically (but not always) produce an unusual smell, haze or smoke. According to a UK government report (para 69), fume events occur on 1 in 100 flights, and on certain aircraft types, crew experience fumes on every flight.

Because the fumes contain highly toxic chemicals - in particular organophosphates (once compulsory in sheep dip but now banned after making many farmers seriously ill) - exposure can have serious long-term effects on your health.

Many aircraft are susceptible to fume events. Top of the list are: British Aerospace 146 and Boeing 757


If you've ever felt ill, sick, tired and exhausted for days, weeks or months after a flight, you could well be suffering from Aerotoxic Syndrome.

Symptoms include:

Chronic fatigue.
Respiratory problems - shortness of breath, chest tightness.
Cognitive dysfunction, bad short-term memory, confusion.
Dizziness, light-headedness.
Heart palpitations.
Digestive problems - nausea, diarrhoea.
Speech problems - slurring words, word-finding difficulties.
Skin disorders - rashes, itchy or burning skin.
... or other neurological symptoms.
And is your doctor totally in the dark as to why you should be suffering from any of the above? Were you diagnosed with "just" having chronic fatigue, jet lag or a mysterious virus with flu-like symptoms?

The truth is: you may be suffering from Aerotoxic Syndrome...

Pilots, cabin crew (flight attendants) and, of course, passengers may be affected, and ill-health can appear after just one flight involving a serious fume event, or after a long period of flying aircraft known for poor cabin air quality.

It is feared that around 196,000 UK passengers a year are exposed to neurotoxic fumes and would be going to their GPs with symptoms of acute toxicity. (UCL 2006 page 523)

Aerotoxic Association
The Aerotoxic Association is run by a group of former aircrew, whose careers ended prematurely due to Aerotoxic Syndrome, which was caused as a result of exposure to fumes. They now want to help others who may be suffering from the condition.

What's more, they want the Government and airline industry to take responsibility for the fact that the design of the breathing air supply system is flawed and that the "bleed air" is not filtered. This poses a serious health threat to anyone who flies.

rapunzel
14-09-2009, 07:34 PM
I had this question myself. Then I found this word aerotoxic. I suggest you google it and then you will get a bigger picture. I was going to start a post on it.

http://www.aerotoxic.org/

http://www.ei-resource.org/news/general-environmental-health-news/aerotoxic-syndrome-investigated/

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/cabin-fever-a-bad-case-of-aerotoxic-syndrome-1646350.html

Aerotoxic Syndrome: Just one flight could devastate your health for years to come...

Aerotoxic Syndrome is a severely debilitating condition that can affect air passengers and aircrew after they have been exposed to noxious fumes from the jet engines entering the cabin. This is known as a "fume event".

Fume events typically (but not always) produce an unusual smell, haze or smoke. According to a UK government report (para 69), fume events occur on 1 in 100 flights, and on certain aircraft types, crew experience fumes on every flight.

Because the fumes contain highly toxic chemicals - in particular organophosphates (once compulsory in sheep dip but now banned after making many farmers seriously ill) - exposure can have serious long-term effects on your health.

Many aircraft are susceptible to fume events. Top of the list are: British Aerospace 146 and Boeing 757


If you've ever felt ill, sick, tired and exhausted for days, weeks or months after a flight, you could well be suffering from Aerotoxic Syndrome.

Symptoms include:

Chronic fatigue.
Respiratory problems - shortness of breath, chest tightness.
Cognitive dysfunction, bad short-term memory, confusion.
Dizziness, light-headedness.
Heart palpitations.
Digestive problems - nausea, diarrhoea.
Speech problems - slurring words, word-finding difficulties.
Skin disorders - rashes, itchy or burning skin.
... or other neurological symptoms.
And is your doctor totally in the dark as to why you should be suffering from any of the above? Were you diagnosed with "just" having chronic fatigue, jet lag or a mysterious virus with flu-like symptoms?

The truth is: you may be suffering from Aerotoxic Syndrome...

Pilots, cabin crew (flight attendants) and, of course, passengers may be affected, and ill-health can appear after just one flight involving a serious fume event, or after a long period of flying aircraft known for poor cabin air quality.

It is feared that around 196,000 UK passengers a year are exposed to neurotoxic fumes and would be going to their GPs with symptoms of acute toxicity. (UCL 2006 page 523)

Aerotoxic Association
The Aerotoxic Association is run by a group of former aircrew, whose careers ended prematurely due to Aerotoxic Syndrome, which was caused as a result of exposure to fumes. They now want to help others who may be suffering from the condition.

What's more, they want the Government and airline industry to take responsibility for the fact that the design of the breathing air supply system is flawed and that the "bleed air" is not filtered. This poses a serious health threat to anyone who flies.

Yes but that's different to the allegations that noxious substances are deliberately being sprayed into the atmosphere for nefarious reasons. The in cabin problems are doubtless caused by airlines running the aircraft as cheaply as possible. I have heard that since the smoking ban came into force airlines have taken the opportunity to reduce the number of times fresh air is recycled into the cabins as this saves them money. This has resulted in more passenger illness.

lw71
14-09-2009, 08:32 PM
Why are the planes flying so high? It seems very inefficient to me. When crop dusting the planes fly at treetop level so that most of the chemical gets onto the designated field. Some of the allegedly chemtrail planes are so high you can hardly see them and why do they "spray" over the ocean? since I've seen these trails way out on the open sea.

If you are downwind of where they put, then it's coming your way.

anthony65
14-09-2009, 08:55 PM
Why are the planes flying so high? It seems very inefficient to me. When crop dusting the planes fly at treetop level so that most of the chemical gets onto the designated field. Some of the allegedly chemtrail planes are so high you can hardly see them and why do they "spray" over the ocean? since I've seen these trails way out on the open sea.

Why do they spray over the ocean?

Because this is a global, multi-purpose operation.

This is not just about spraying people, although that is feasible and has been done before.

In my opinion it's more about altering the atmosphere for military purposes.

It's linked to HAARP and the ionispheric heaters.

Global / planetary engineering.

Owning the weather.

Various reasons; all sick. and all without our consent.

anthony65
14-09-2009, 09:01 PM
What type of planes exactly are they using to deploy chemtrails in the sky? Military or civilian?

It's a beautiful day here in Northern Ireland, and the previously clear sky has been ruined with puffy white lines. I've just watched another plane pass over which has started to deploy it.

The planes that do it always seem to stay at a high altitude.

I think its a mix.

Civilian planes leave trails when the sky has been screwed up by the ground based antennas... haarp, mobile phone masts, tv towers, etc.

There are studies decades old that showed that electricity pylons were altering the upper atmosphere.

The wall street journal reported in the early 90's that a russian company was using ground based antennas to modify the weather.

There are various programs to creatre fake clouds; see the gorbachev bush artificial cloud institute for example, and others...

What is in regular jet fuel? Lots of nasty chemicals. Every batch is potentially different. Who knows what is really in there?

Add to this military planes flying on nasty nato jet fuel.

Plus black ops flights, maybe drones... Watch the sky and note how there are often massive differences between the trails. Some are incredibly thick, belching plumes, sometimes they are even different colours.. orange, yellow.

To summarize. Some trails are produced as a by product of the emf polluted skies and nasty regular jet fuel. Other trails are laid by even nastier chemical combinations, especially barium and sulphur...

soothseeker
15-09-2009, 02:14 PM
I think its a mix.

Civilian planes leave trails when the sky has been screwed up by the ground based antennas... haarp, mobile phone masts, tv towers, etc.

There are studies decades old that showed that electricity pylons were altering the upper atmosphere.

The wall street journal reported in the early 90's that a russian company was using ground based antennas to modify the weather.

There are various programs to creatre fake clouds; see the gorbachev bush artificial cloud institute for example, and others...

What is in regular jet fuel? Lots of nasty chemicals. Every batch is potentially different. Who knows what is really in there?

Add to this military planes flying on nasty nato jet fuel.

Plus black ops flights, maybe drones... Watch the sky and note how there are often massive differences between the trails. Some are incredibly thick, belching plumes, sometimes they are even different colours.. orange, yellow.

To summarize. Some trails are produced as a by product of the emf polluted skies and nasty regular jet fuel. Other trails are laid by even nastier chemical combinations, especially barium and sulphur...

That made a lot of sense imo. Cheers

anthony65
15-09-2009, 02:26 PM
That made a lot of sense imo. Cheers

You're welcome! :)