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nihil
11-09-2009, 09:13 PM
Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE

Brother Masons, next Dan Brown sell-out book will accuse YOU, masons, and
hopefully will doom your deceptive satanist trait d' union forever.

Dan Brown
Take any good street map of downtown Washington and find the Capital
Building. Facing the Capital from the Mall and using the Capital as the
head or top of the compass, the left leg is represented by Pennsylvania
Avenue and the right leg by Maryland Avenue. The square is found in the usual Masonic
position with the intersection of Canal Street and Louisiana Avenue. The
left leg of the et aass stands on the White House and the right leg stands on
the Jefferson Memorial. The circle drive and short streets behind the
Capital form the head and ears of what Satanists call the GOAT OF
MENDES, or the GOAT'S HEAD!
dan brown

Good boy Danny includes a Map of Washington D.C. Showing Masonic Symbols.
Look at the Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE:
just in the middle of the pentagram!

the lost symbol
On top of the White House is an inverted 5 pointed star, or
PENTAGRAM. The point is facing south in true occult fashion.
It sits within the intersections of Connecticut and Vermont
Avenues, north to Dupont and Logan Circles, with Rhode Island and
Massachusetts going to Washington Circle to the West and Mt. Vernon
Square to the East.
The center of the pentagram is 16th Street where, thirteen blocks due north
of the very center of the White House, one finds the Masonic HOUSE OF
THE TEMPLE, which sits at the top of this occult iceberg.
The Washington Monument stands in perfect line to the intersecting point
of the form of the Masonic Square, stretching from the House of the
Temple to the Capital Building. Within the hypotenuse of that right
triangle sit many of the headquarter buildings for the most powerful
departments of government, such as the Justice Department, U.S. Senate,
and the Internal Revenue Service.
It would be great to know that your nation's Capital is bathed in continual
prayer and to believe that its building and monuments have been dedicated
in prayer, but do you realize that every key Federal building from the
White House to the Capital has had a cornerstone laid in a Masonic ritual
and has specific Masonic paraphernalia placed in each one. Again,
wonderful if we were talking about our one true God in all this, but such is
not the case. The cornerstone of all these buildings have been laid in
Masonic ritual, dedicated to the demonic god of Freemasonry, JAO-BULON
That is the secret name of the Masonic god, the LOST WORD in the
rite of the Royal Arch Degree. JAO is the Greek name for the god of the
Gnostics "ladabaoth or lao;" BUL is a rendering of the name "Ba'al" and
ON is the Babylonian name for the Egyptian god "OSIRIS."
What we see represented in this name of the Masonic deity is a three headed
pagan deity so remote from the Christian faith as to damn the eternal soul of anyone
who would dare to
pronounce its name in worship. The full explanation for this is found in
-Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor, Third Ed. pp. 224-226, 249-
251.

The Washington Monument actually represents the PHALLIC
PRINCIPLE upon which SPECULATIVE Masonry is based. From above,
the monument and its circular drive, form the esoteric Masonic "Point
within a circle." The Reflecting Pool bears its shadow image, with the
illusion duplicated in the Lincoln Memorial.
Strange? Not if you understand the occult principles involved. The
respected Masonic author and authority, Albert Mackey, states in
MACKEY'S MASONIC RITUALIST; (pp. 62-63):
"The point within a circle is an interesting and important
symbol in Freemasonry ... The symbol is a beautiful but
somewhat obtuse allusion to ... sun-worship and introduces
us for the first time to that modification among the ancients
as the worship of the PHALLUS. The Phallus was an
imitation of the male generative organ. It was represented
usually by a column, which was surrounded by a circle at
its base, intended for the cteis, or female generative orge
39This union of the Phallus and the Cteis, which is well
represented by the point within the circle, was intended by
the ancients as a type of the prolific powers of nature,
which they worshipped under the united form of the
activity or male principle and the passive or female
principle."

The Satanic pentagram under which the White House sits is an
open door through which Satan has access to the White House.
The Pentagram, or five-pointed star is, of course, both a Masonic symbol
and an ancient symbol of witchcraft. With its point facing down (or south),
it is especially found in Satanism. Satanists can be seen wearing the
inverted pentagram; and it appears in many black magic books, including
THE SATANIC BIBLE. It is also the signet of the EASTERN STAR, the
lady's Masonic organization.
Dan Brown

Adieu Masons... you won't miss us!! You're doomed: 1st edition is out
on 15 sept. in a mere 5 million copies :)
Wouldn't you buy them all to cover your forthcoming doom ?!

Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE

nihil
12-09-2009, 12:05 AM
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1070/lostsymbol.jpg

Supreme Council 33 - 1733 16th St Nw, Washington, DC 20009

About the Building: Located at 1733 Sixteenth Street, NW in the District of Columbia,
this monumental building in the nation’s capital has been the national headquarters of the Supreme Council since 1915...


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7609/danbrown.jpg (http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AnatNIeILkW1U3f0JcytpleHNcIF;_ylv=3?p =Supreme+Council&csz=Washington%2C+DC+&viewtype=map#mapnav=lat%3D38.91347595437975%26lon% 3D-77.03699111938477%26radius%3D1.01%26radiuspx%3D0%2 6p%3DSupreme%20Council%26zoom%3D5)

Y! location here, with the perfect diameter of 1 mile (http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AnatNIeILkW1U3f0JcytpleHNcIF;_ylv=3?p =Supreme+Council&csz=Washington%2C+DC+&viewtype=map#mapnav=lat%3D38.91347595437975%26lon% 3D-77.03699111938477%26radius%3D1.01%26radiuspx%3D0%2 6p%3DSupreme%20Council%26zoom%3D5) .

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2858/freemasonssatanism.jpg (http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AnatNIeILkW1U3f0JcytpleHNcIF;_ylv=3?p =Supreme+Council&csz=Washington%2C+DC+&viewtype=map#mapnav=lat%3D38.91347595437975%26lon% 3D-77.03699111938477%26radius%3D1.01%26radiuspx%3D0%2 6p%3DSupreme%20Council%26zoom%3D5)

...once upon a time,
a group of trolls dwelled in the middle of a pentagram, within a circle of one mile in diameter (http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AnatNIeILkW1U3f0JcytpleHNcIF;_ylv=3?p =Supreme+Council&csz=Washington%2C+DC+&viewtype=map#mapnav=lat%3D38.91347595437975%26lon% 3D-77.03699111938477%26radius%3D1.01%26radiuspx%3D0%2 6p%3DSupreme%20Council%26zoom%3D5) .

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boots
12-09-2009, 02:08 AM
There never think that they give their power away to these symbols. It's just something they have been associated with for a very long time so it's just natural to them. What they fail to realise is that symbols that are turned around produce a negative energy.

With all their infighting they fail to see the true meaning behind it. It matters not if its the grand lodge of all England or the moderns.

IMO the York rite is the worst of the bunch.

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nihil
12-09-2009, 07:24 PM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5044/baphomet12.jpg


Sculpture of Baphomet from Templar Shrine


http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8010/albaph.jpg


Aleister Crowley in Masonic Regalia


http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9650/13l.gif


Illuminati Structure


http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8632/14p.gif


Washington D.C. Inverted Pentegram Layout... Connect the dots!


In his own defense, Weishaupt said: "Whoever does not close his ear to the lamentations of the miserable, nor his heart to gentle pity; whoever is the friend and brother of the unfortunate ... ; whoever does not mock and despise the weak; whose soul is susceptible of conceiving great designs, desirous of rising superior to all base motives, and of distinguishing itself by deeds of benevolence; whoever shuns idleness; whoever considers no knowledge as unessential which he may have the opportunity of acquiring, regarding the knowledge of mankind as his chief study; whoever, when truth and virtue are in question, despising the approbation of the multitude, is sufficiently courageous to follow the dictates of his own heart, - such a one is a proper candidate."

nihil
12-09-2009, 07:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ZwFREy-xg

The late Robert Anton Wilson's lecture of conspiracy,the Masonic P-2 Lodge, banking and the Priory of Sion...

nihil
13-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Within a building known as the "House of the Temple" in Washington, D.C. lies the body of Confederate general Albert Pike. This building is the grandiose headquarters of a particular brand of Freemasonry known as the Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction. Egyptian iconography adorns the entrance, and the pyramidal construction which surmounts the House of the Temple bears a striking resemblance to the truncated pyramid seen on the enigmatic Great Seal of the United States - right down to the number of courses of stonework.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/30/lostkeysoffreemasonryby.jpg

The privileged resting place is a testament to Pike’s contribution to the Scottish Rite - he composed the ritual, and quite amazingly presided as the Sovereign Grand Commander of the group from 1859 right up until his death in 1891. A lawyer and newspaper editor, Pike also authored a number of books on Freemasonry. The best known of these is Morals and Dogma, a massive tome which was meant as a supplement to the rituals he designed for the Scottish Rite.


Masons are Illuminati puppets. 5 millions are eating the RED PILL and will awake about what really stands behind the masonic curtains.


Masonic organizations that are limited to Freemasons:

* Masonic Lodge (Blue Lodge)
* Scottish Rite
* York Rite
* Knights Templar
* Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (Shriners)
* Ancient Egyptian Order of Sciots
* National Sojourners
* The Philalethes Society
* Tall Cedars of Lebanon

keystone
14-09-2009, 08:49 AM
Here we are then - just to help the hysteria along its way - click here (http://www.parade.com/news/2009/09/13-dan-brown-the-lost-symbol.html).

Don't forget its a novel.

Cheers

humason
14-09-2009, 11:24 AM
Here we are then - just to help the hysteria along its way - click here (http://www.parade.com/news/2009/09/13-dan-brown-the-lost-symbol.html).

Don't forget its a novel.

Cheers

They will all forget that :)
I've read the preface available on-line, and there appear to be Masons dressed in monk-like habits and drinking wine out of human skulls while wearing sashes. :) The sashes and description make it sound like a York rite ritual, so I'm really confused what the SR House of the Temple has to do with this :)

So, nice fiction there :) "Supreme Worshipful Master"? New title, must have missed it. Little bit of Craft, little bit of SR, some York thrown in for the gory bits... "prehistoric" Emulation-Craft ritual being quoted...

It's all going to end in serious confusion.

keystone
14-09-2009, 01:32 PM
Just for completeness I posted this in another thread last week:

Its a novel for crying out loud. He can say what he wants in it as long as it fits his plot. Trouble is peeps are going to lap it up and "Proof - say told you so, told you so."

Heres my prediction - Dan Brown and his publishers will walk away with a pocket full of moolah and we will see a quite moronic form of hysterical sheeplism which will be just a stupid as those who believe the 911 Commission Report.

Now can I get a cheque the same size as Derren Brown's please for this weeks little stunt?

You don't think Dan, Derren and Gordon are related do you? :eek:


Cheers

barney_rubble
14-09-2009, 02:21 PM
They will all forget that :)
I've read the preface available on-line, and there appear to be Masons dressed in monk-like habits and drinking wine out of human skulls while wearing sashes. :) The sashes and description make it sound like a York rite ritual, so I'm really confused what the SR House of the Temple has to do with this :)

So, nice fiction there :) "Supreme Worshipful Master"? New title, must have missed it. Little bit of Craft, little bit of SR, some York thrown in for the gory bits... "prehistoric" Emulation-Craft ritual being quoted...

It's all going to end in serious confusion.

Careful the ritual in my jurisdiction is very close to Emulation, as one of my mentors told me it is it is as close to the original Emulation Ritual you can get and is the longest continuously used ritual today virtual unchanged since 1859. (My only source for this is my mentor - whom I trust)

barney_rubble
14-09-2009, 02:40 PM
Actually Dan Brown books always bring a flurry of activity at our lodge and our district in general.

They cause a influx of questions which result in a number of petitions which leads to a handful (or more) of candidates.

So no harm done. Just a little time to weed out the ones who are not serious

humason
14-09-2009, 03:16 PM
Careful the ritual in my jurisdiction is very close to Emulation, as one of my mentors told me it is it is as close to the original Emulation Ritual you can get and is the longest continuously used ritual today virtual unchanged since 1859. (My only source for this is my mentor - whom I trust)

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm Emulation as well :)

However, the one bit that's quoted in the book is the one detailing what's going to happen to you if you spill the secrets - something I haven't heard used out here for a while...

D

nihil
14-09-2009, 07:08 PM
The sashes and description make it sound like a York rite ritual, so I'm really confused what the SR House of the Temple has to do with this :)
lost symbols satanic rituals

Supreme Council Location (http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AnatNIeILkW1U3f0JcytpleHNcIF;_ylv=3?p =Supreme+Council&csz=Washington%2C+DC+&viewtype=map#mapnav=lat%3D38.91347595437975%26lon% 3D-77.03699111938477%26radius%3D1.01%26radiuspx%3D0%2 6p%3DSupreme%20Council%26zoom%3D5)

Supreme Council 33 1733 16th St Nw, Washington, DC

Scottish Rite Supreme Council 1733 16th St Nw, Washington, DC

It's just in the middle of the pentacle. It's there. Mere coincidences? (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80669)

masonic pentacles

nihil
14-09-2009, 08:04 PM
Author Dan Brown's new book is expected to reveal a more mysterious side to the city by exposing the influence that freemasonry exerted not only on the design of Washington DC but on the founding fathers .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXlYHjQJZ4Y

The theory goes that if you draw a line along the avenues connecting the White House with four key road intersections it traces a five-pointed star or pentagram.
The Temple of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry sits directly in line with the White House and is odds-on to feature in The Lost Symbol. The forbidding Temple is guarded by two male sphinxes and supported by 33 columns, a significant number in freemasonry. The 1.5 million members of America's 2,000 lodges are, however, routinely accused of occultism and Satanism, which they vigorously deny.


http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/610/mdpike.jpg

MORALS AND DOGMA BY ALBERT PIKE

In order to understand the complex symbols and philosophy used by US country's forefathers, we have to make a detailed study of the background sources, history, and explanations given by the creators of the icons and the authors of the volumes of texts on the esoteric and masonry.

"Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"

Albert Pike will figure in The Lost Symbol. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62014&highlight=washington) Pike was a powerful mason, a Confederate general, accused of leading the Ku Klux Klan and assassinating Abraham Lincoln. He is interred at the Temple of the Scottish Rite.
When Albert Pike referred to Lucifer in his work he was, as the foreword of the book states, being rather bookish and flaunting his vast knowledge of comparative religion and ancient history. It is unfortunate that his ego did not allow him to explain himself more clearly. We shall see and, Mr. Brown will not doubt explain how the negative connotation of things like the term Lucifer and an inverted pentagram, came much later in history - at least the 1200s - and have been misinterpreted and taken out of their original context by out and out hoaxes perpetrated for the age old reasons of fame and fortune - and simply disinformation.
Just across the Potomac, the George Washington National Masonic Memorial towers over Alexandria, Virginia. Inside is a statue of Washington posing exactly as Baphomet.

nihil
14-09-2009, 08:29 PM
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4245/doubleheadedeagle.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61813&highlight=washington)


Ordo ab Chao - Deus meumque Jus (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78374)


The idolatrous image of the double-headed eagle—shown here on the cover of Albert Pike's classic text, Morals and Dogma—is a much-treasured symbol of Jewish Masons. It represents the Babylonian god of money and forces, Mammon-Ra, as well as the Hegelian dialectical process practiced by the Jewish elite. This same symbol is the "Masonic Jewel" awarded high-level Masons initiated into the 33rd degree.

kadosh
14-09-2009, 08:31 PM
The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital : The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C. - by David Ovason. Published July 2000. http://www.masonicinfo.com/books/secretarchitecture.htm

http://images.swaptree.com/images/books/83/0060953683.jpg

nihil
14-09-2009, 08:56 PM
The village of Hamburgh was founded in 1765
by Jacob Funk and was originally known as Funks-
town. It lay along the Potomac about a quarter
of a mile to the west of what are now the Monu-
ment Grounds. The owners of land in Hamburgh
and Carrollsburgh transferred their interests to
the Commissioners in 1793 and 1794 in considera-
tion of receiving certain lots in other parts of the
city.

The survey had been completed and on April 15, 1791,
the corner-stone which now forms part of the founda-
tion of the Jones Point Light-house, was laid at
the extremity of " the upper cape of Hunting
Creek, in Virginia," by Doctor Elisha Cullen Dick
with Masonic rites.*

* Doctor Dick was the first physician to reach the bedside
of Washington in bis fatal illness and remained with him
to the last moments.

It will be observed that in the agreement with
the proprietors, the name " Federal City " occurs
several times and as this is the first record of that
designation it may be attributed to Washington,
for he doubtless drafted the document in question.
A few months later the Commissioners wrote to
Major L'Enfant : " We have agreed that the Fed-
eral district shall be called the Territory of Co-
lumbia and the Federal City the ' City of Wash-
ington.' The title of the map will, therefore, be
A Map of the City of Washington in the Terri-
tory of Columbia.' "

" We have also agreed the streets to be named
alphabetically one way, and numerically the other,
the former divided into north and south letters
and the latter into east and west numbers from
the Capitol."

Towards the close of March, 1791, Washington
went to Georgetown to confer with the commis-
sioners as to the actual location of the city and
to secure from the owners the necessary land. The
site was already settled in his mind and overtures
of a definite character had doubtless been made to
the proprietors, for at the close of the day on which
the President went over the ground, the following
agreement was signed and witnessed:

We, the subscribers, in consideration of the good
benefits we expect to derive from having the Fed-
eral City laid off upon our lands, do hereby agree
and bind ourselves, heirs, executors, and adminis-
trators, to convey in trust to the President of the
U. S. or Commissioners, or such person or persons
as he shall appoint, by good and sufficient deeds
in fee simple, the whole of our respective lands
which he may think proper to include in the lines
of the Federal City, for the purpose and on the con-
ditions following:

The President shall have the sole power of direct-
ing the Federal City to be laid off in what manner
he pleases. He may retain any number of squares
he may think proper for any public improvements
or other public uses, and the lots only which shall
be laid off shall be joint property between the
trustees on behalf of the public, and equally di-
vided between the public and the individuals as
soon as may be after the city is laid off.

For the streets the proprietors shall receive no
compensation, but for the squares or lands in any
form which shall be taken for public buildings
or any kind of public improvements or uses, the
proprietors whose land shall be taken shall receive
at the rate of £25* per acre, to be paid by the public.

* Equivalent to $66.66 in Pennsylvania currency.

Carrollsburgh and Hamburgh were two flourish-
ing but unincorporated settlements. The former,
situated at the junction of the Potomac and the
Anacostia, occupied part of the original " Dudding-
ton " property which passed in 1770 from Charles
Carrol, junior, to Daniel Carrol, Notley Young and
Henry Rozer.

is frequently mentioned in statutes as the " Dis-
trict of Columbia " previous to that year, it is first
so definitely designated by law in the opening para-
graph of an act passed June 11, 1878, which pro-
vides :

" That all the territory which was ceded by the
State of Maryland to the Congress of the United
States for the permanent seat of the Government
of the United States shall continue to be designated
as the District of Columbia/' (20 Stats. 102.)


WASHINGTON THE CITY AND THE SEAT OF GOVERNMENT (excerpt)

kadosh
14-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Please can you provide the links for the above text (and future messages) that you copy and paste here.

nihil
14-09-2009, 09:06 PM
Federal Lodge No. 1. — room corner of
12th street and Pennsylvania avenue ; re-
gular night of meeting, first Monday in eve-
ry month.

Potomac Lodge, No. 5, Georgetown —
room in Bridge street, opposite Union ho-
tel; regular night of meeting, fourth Fri-
day in every month.

Lebanon Lodge, No. 7— room comer of
12th street and Pennsylvania avenue; re-
gular night of meetings first Friday in every
month.

New Jerusalem Lodge, No, 9 — ^room cor-
ner of 4^ street and Pennsylvania avenue;
meets on third Tuesday in every month.

Hiram Lodge, No. 10 — ^room over West
market, first ward; regular meeting, first
Wednesday in every month.

Grand Lodge of District of Columbia —
annual communication first Tuesday in No-
vember, semi-annual, first Tuesday in May.
Installation meeting, St. John's day.


Central Lodge, No. 1 — ^room City hall ;
night of regular meeting, Friday.

Washington Lodge, No. 6— room City
hall ; night of regular meeting, Tuesday.

Eastern Lodge, No. 7 — ^at present occu-
pying a room in Masonic hall, navy yard ;
night of regular meeting, Friday.


Potomac Lodge, No. 8^— Odd Fellows'
hall, Alexandria; regular night of meeting,
Friday.

Harmony Lodge, No. 10 — ^roomCity hall;
regular night of meeting, Thursday;

Union Lodge No. 11 — Odd Fellows hall,
navy yard; regular night of meeting, Wed-
nesday.

Friendship Lodge, No. 12— room over
West market, first ward j night of regular
meeting, Thursday.

Covenant Lodge, No. 13 — Odd Fellows
hall, Jefferson street, (Georgetown ; regular
night of meeting, Monday.

Columbian Encampment, No. 1 — ^room
City hall; regular night of meeting, last
Wednesday in every month

Marley Encampment, No. 2 — Odd Fel-
lows' hall, Alexandria; regular nights of
meeting, second and fourth Mondays in eve-
ry month.

Grand Lodge of the District of Columbia
meets annually on the second Monday in
November, and quarterly on the second
Mondays of January, April, July and Oct.


Mysteries of Washington city, during several months of the session of the 28th Congress (excerpt)

humason
14-09-2009, 09:09 PM
All-Seeing Eye in the Masonic Lodges is a symbol of Satan

Supreme Council Location (http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AnatNIeILkW1U3f0JcytpleHNcIF;_ylv=3?p =Supreme+Council&csz=Washington%2C+DC+&viewtype=map#mapnav=lat%3D38.91347595437975%26lon% 3D-77.03699111938477%26radius%3D1.01%26radiuspx%3D0%2 6p%3DSupreme%20Council%26zoom%3D5)

Supreme Council 33 1733 16th St Nw, Washington, DC

Scottish Rite Supreme Council 1733 16th St Nw, Washington, DC

It's just in the middle of the pentacle. It's there. Mere coincidence?

A condemnation of Freemasonry

York Rite.
Scottish Rite.

Apples.
Oranges.


See my point? It's a hodgepodge of what outsiders think they know, each part pulled together for maximum shock effect. I won't be surprised of there will be the usual Pike miss-quotes, ex-cathedra statements based on the "work" of Leo Taxil, a slight sprinkling of Memphis-Misraim and, of course, the obligatory ritual murder.

Take myths about Masonry. Put into blender. Turn on high.

That being said, I ordered three copies - one for me, two for some of my friends. On each one that I bought for my friends, I'll add the note: "If you ever want to know, come and ask.", with my full "rank and title", and my seal.

You see, I find it funny :) And in the end, people like you will go on misunderstanding everything and seeing conspiracies, and the inquisitive ones will come and ask.

nihil
14-09-2009, 09:14 PM
I usually provide the title at the bottom. Just head to http://www.archive.org and search for the titles provided, otherwise use metacrawler or Y!


The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God. The Devil is the personification of Atheism or Idolatry.

For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythologic and horned form of the God PAN; thence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer or Phosphor, of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend.

Gold, to the eyes of the Initiates, is Light condensed.

Morals and Dogma: III. The Master (http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/md04.htm)

raphael
14-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Here we are then - just to help the hysteria along its way - click here (http://www.parade.com/news/2009/09/13-dan-brown-the-lost-symbol.html).

Don't forget its a novel.

Cheers

What is the novel the Freemasons buy into Keystone?

The Legend of Hiram Abiff?

Why did Manley P. Hall spell it CHiram?
Guess what Keystone...I have an answer for what the architect CHiram possibly represents, found in science/chemistry/biology/math and even electro-magnetics dude....
Would that surprise you?
CHirality is one of the architects that helped build the mythical Solomon's Temple...CHirality or CHiram of Tyre, take your pick.
The story is allegorical...the best part is, you can use ancient allegory to solve modern riddles...this I do believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality

Because because because the SWASTIKA, DNA and your LEFT and RIGHT hands are in fact chiral AND asymmetric. ;)

Here is a link to a fella who shares my passion for CARD X of the Tarot and PRECESSION of the EQUINOXES?
http://www.keyofsolomon.org/The%20Lost%20Symbol%20Dan%20Brown.php

http://www.keyofsolomon.org/images/The%20Lost%20Symbol%20True%20Cross.jpg

We both believe the 4 Beasts found on that CARD and elsewhere is directly connected to something real special.
Celestial in nature.

The website also connects 'Washington DC' to sacred geometry.
Scroll down.

namaste

nihil
14-09-2009, 09:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQEOC-MUg78

kadosh
14-09-2009, 09:45 PM
I usually provide the title at the bottom. Just head to http://www.archive.org and search for the titles provided, otherwise use metacrawler or Y!
It seems to me that you should be providing the links for the actual text without the reader having to search for it. Your method is lazy research I'm afraid.

nihil
14-09-2009, 09:53 PM
Why do your parents let you alone in front of a PC connected to the internet? (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78978)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/355/hotaerial.jpg

It is not good for young children to browse forums about conspiracy practices!

nihil
14-09-2009, 10:31 PM
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6672/79100.jpg

...the 4 Beasts found on that CARD and elsewhere is directly connected to something celestial in nature.

namaste

barney_rubble
14-09-2009, 11:31 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm Emulation as well :)

However, the one bit that's quoted in the book is the one detailing what's going to happen to you if you spill the secrets - something I haven't heard used out here for a while...

D

All still included in my jurisdiction . Something I am proud of

nihil
15-09-2009, 12:19 AM
The Occult Origins of America

In "Talisman", Hancock and Bauval raise the possibility that the street-plan of Washington D.C. incorporates
the Kabbalistic 'Tree of Life' symbol. They see the Capitol building as the 'head' of the esoteric symbol (designated as 'Kether'),
with the Tree of Life unfolding to the west. One of the major landmarks which they see sitting within this symbol,
at a point corresponding to the Kabbalistic sephirah of 'Tipheret', is the gigantic obelisk of the Washington Monument."

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4217/scale3.jpg

Washington's remarkable openness is the legacy of Pierre Charles L'Enfant (http://www.answers.com/topic/pierre-charles-l-enfant), the French engineer who, with surveyor Andrew Ellicott (http://www.virtualology.com/revolutionarywarhall/ANDREWELLICOTT.COM/) and mathematician Benjamin Banneker (http://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/special/banneker-benjamin.html), laid out the city in 1791. L'Enfant wanted his fledgling capital to make a powerful symbolic statement, so he designed a city of broad avenues and imposing public spaces that radiate outward from the "President's House" and the "Congress House" like spokes on a wheel. Space - great, unfolding expanses of it - was a way to distinguish America from Europe, and new world capitals from old.
Throughout the Federal City, L'Enfant superimposed a system of broad diagonal avenues over a conventional street grid. Spaced throughout the grid, he designed squares and circles to link neighborhoods visually and physically both with one another and with key federal features. Since L'Enfant believed that new construction would be attracted to the avenues and to the vicinity of major public buildings, this system both unified the city's many functional centers and provided a means of directing development. Centrally, he plotted a grand four-hundred-foot-wide ceremonial avenue to be lined with imposing houses and gardens, due west from the Capitol to the Washington Monument site. Now termed The Mall, this stretch of land was to remain a "vast esplanade" where the "sort of places as may be attractive to the learned and afford diversion to the idle" would grace and minimize the ceremonial distance between the Capitol and White House.

Washington, DC and The Alchemic Tree of Life

nihil
15-09-2009, 12:51 AM
washington, dc tree of life
GOVERNMENT MALL IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

+

TREE OF LIFE ( SEPHIROTH )

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8485/malloverhead.jpg

+

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2322/tensephirothtreelife.jpg

GOVERNMENT MALL IN WASHINGTON

Masonic and Rosicrucian Founding Fathers considered the capital of the United States to be of such critical importance. As we fully explain in the article referenced above, our Founding Fathers were secretly fulfilling the Rosicrucian Plan originally envisioned by Sir Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth I in the late 1500's, to found the North American colonies as the occult New Atlantis, chosen by their Guiding Spirits to lead the world into the New World Order, the Kingdom of the New Age.

"This division of the ten Sephiroth into three triads was arranged into a form called by the Cabalists the Cabalistic Tree, or the Tree of Life. These ten Sephiroth are collectively denominated the archetypal man, the Microcosm... each of them refers to a particular part of the body. Thus the Crown is the head; Wisdom the brain and Intelligence the heart, which is deemed the seat of understanding...
These three are the first triad and is called the Intellectual World. Justice is the right arm and Mercy the left arm, and Beauty is the chest [note that the Washington Monument forms the position, Beauty, and is elevated into the chest region]. This second triad is called the Moral World. Splendor is the right leg, and Firmness the left leg, and Foundation the privates. These three represent power and stability, hence the third triad is called the Material World . Lastly, Kingdom is the feet, the basis upon which all stand, and represents the harmony of the whole archetypal man." - Mackey's Masonic Encyclopedia

Crowley wrote thus:

'How wonderful is the Qabalah!How great is its security from the profane; how splendid its secrets to the initiate!
Verily and Amen! yet here we are at the old dilemma , that one must know Truth before one can rely upon Qabalah to show Truth.
Like the immortal burglar :
"Bill wouldn't hurt a baby - he's a pal you can trust,
He's all right when yer know him; but yer've got to know 'im fust"

nihil
15-09-2009, 01:24 AM
Empire of the Cities

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3649/fascesright500.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f4vD-PcE8g)

There are three cities (city-states) across this planet that share striking
similarities and play a crucial role in the global governmental system we have
long been living under. The three city-states, along with the role they serve:


- City of London (finance)

- Washington DC (military)

- Vatican City (religion)

the 3 cities that rule the world

nihil
15-09-2009, 02:21 AM
District Flag:

* The official flag of the District of Columbia features a rectangular white background three (3) red five-pointed stars, called mullets, that appear above two horizontal bars in red with the 3 red five-pointed stars in a row in the upper white space of the flag.

* The design was essentially adopted from the family coat of arms of George Washington, the first President of the United States

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4201/gwcoat.jpg

...hmm, nicey, what's written there ??

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3240/gwcoatdet.jpg

“Exitus acta probat”

which means

“the result validates the deeds”

more popularly known as

“the ends justify the means”

lycan
15-09-2009, 01:20 PM
It seem so far a good read....the masons dont seem to have a bad role in the book.
Only cost $25Aus

raphael
15-09-2009, 03:41 PM
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6672/79100.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Tarot52811.jpghttp://www.keyofsolomon.org/images/The%20Lost%20Symbol%20True%20Cross.jpg

YES the same 4 beasts of burden depicting the 4 ages appear in many different archetypal representations of the same TRUTH.

however we note a difference in the positions on the cross of time.

Is this a clue to how that cross of time can be connected to 'celestial' time demarcated by Precession of the Equinoxes aka Platonic Year ie 25920 year cycle?

YES

WHY?

Apply xyz of physics...ROTATIONS and REFLECTIONS of the wxyz axis. ;)

namaste

raphael
15-09-2009, 03:51 PM
The three city-states, along with the role they serve:


- City of London (finance)

- Washington DC (military)

- Vatican City (religion)[/SIZE]

the 3 cities that rule the world

I would be tempted to remove the Vatican and add Paris, France to the list?

All share the same colors of heraldry, within their flags, the RED WHITE and BLUE.
And heraldry is connected to heredity which is connected to Holy BLOOD.

What if the London/Paris/Washington triumvirate represent the western freemason forces, the non-religious forces that are doing battle with what the Vatican represents...the Holy Grail.

But wait...is not the Holy GRAIL, a chalice containing the Holy BLOOD?

Thus can we conclude that behind the scenes all four western powers have in fact agreed to play to a stalemate, after sacrificing all the pawns?
:rolleyes:

namaste

nihil
15-09-2009, 04:31 PM
Raphael you're right in pointing to Paris - masonic city - and in seeing some rotational differences...

On the little scale we focused on the pentacle with masons HQ just in the midst.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3672/mapforcapcom.jpg

On a medium scale we see that the pentacle points to the mall, where
the romboidal figure - as a coffin - can easily resemble a human figure.
On the human body the structure of Tree of Life is resembled, too.


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7996/treeoflifebwnames.gif


A note about the Sephiroth (Sepheroth) or Tree of Life:

The Zohar contains many references to the "rigorous severity" of God
(another synonym for Gevurah) and its being the
source of evil in the creation. However, when one considers that
the creation and uncontrolled growth of a cancer would correspond
to Chesed, and the attempts of the immune system to contain and
destroy it would correspond to Gevurah, it should be clear that
it is not useful to consider creation and destruction in terms of
good and evil. It is useful [sic] to look at a living, organic system
as a *balance* between these two opposed tendencies, and the
manifest Creation in Kabbalah is very definitely pictured as a
living, organic system.


Traditional Hebrew Kabbalah depicts the tree of life in various forms,
some of them have the sephira Gevurah (strength, power)
Chesed corresponds to the creative aspects of leadership,
and early texts are one-sided in characterising this by love,
mercy and majesty. Gevurah (Geburah)
corresponds to the conservative aspects of leadership, to the
power to preserve the status-quo, and the power to destroy
anything opposed to it. These two aspects go hand-in-hand - try
to change anything of consequence in society, and someone will
invariably oppose that change. To bring about change it is often
necessary to have the power to over-rule opposition. Consensus is
an impossibility in society - there will always be someone whose
opinions are at best ignored and at worst suppressed - and Chesed
and Gevurah represent respectively the kingly obligation to seek
what is good for the many, and the power to judge and
punish those opposed to the will of the kings.

In his commentary on The Bahir, Aryeh Kaplan writes:

"The concept of Gevurah-Strength is that of restraint.
When it is said that Strength is restraint, it is in the sense of the
teaching "Who is strong, he who restrains his urge". It is
obvious that man can restrain his nature, but if man can do
so, then God certainly can. God's nature, however, is to do
good and therefore, when He restrains His nature, the result
is evil. The sephira of Gevurah-Strength is therefore seen
as the source of evil."


Is the white house the house of Gevurah (Severity; גבורה) and Din
(Judgment) of the Sefirot in Jewish Kabbalah?
Gebrah and Din (Judgment) sits across from Chesed.


"The chief foundations of all states, new as well as old or
mixed, are good laws and good arms; and because there cannot
be good laws where there are not good arms, and where there
are good arms there must needs be good laws, I will omit
speaking of the laws and speak of the arms."

- Machiavelli

Geburah Gebrah or Geburah and Judgment in the Kabbalah of Judaism

nihil
15-09-2009, 04:46 PM
The sephira Gevurah is as often misunderstood as the sephira
Chesed. The planet associated with Chesed is Tzedek or
Jupiter - leader of the gods; the planet associated with
Gevurah is Madim or Mars - the god of war and destruction.

The illusion of Chesed is Right, in the sense of "being
right". It is difficult to lead without conviction, when one sits
on every fence and wavers on every question, but no-one is ever
right with a capital "R", and anyone who seeks the reassurance of
Being Right is evading the essence of responsibility.
The qlippoth of Chesed is "political ideology". The
rationale behind this is that it is very easy to take a creed, or
a doctrine, or a dogma, or whatever, and use it as a platform for
leadership. A politian (or a religious leader) being
interviewed on television gives the response to every question in
just the same old empty jargon, the same old formulae, the same
old evasions, the same old arguments and irrefutable assertions,
and you feel you have heard the same thing a dozen times before
out of a dozen different mouths, then this is the dead, empty
shell of leadership.
Tyranny, bigotry, hypocricy and gluttony, the vices of
Chesed, are the meat and drink of daily newspapers. Tyranny is
leadership without authority, an illegitimate or unconstitutional
leadership usually oiled with large helpings of cruelty, the Vice
of Gevurah.

raphael
15-09-2009, 04:47 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7996/treeoflifebwnames.gif




the evolution and synthesis of the tree of life is step in step with quantum mechanics.

11 string theory and the 11th spot called Daath?

this is NOT a coincidence.
folks who want to believe it is...
can remain grounded.

I am outta here.
Daath is a gate...an archetypal porthole to a greater understanding.

Archetype transcends and depicts SPACETIME and MOTION.
Archetype announces truth is truth is truth is truth ... to infinity and beyond.

Take a look at the paths that surround Daath?
Daath is the 13th path on the Tree?
Daath sounds like Death which is CARD 13 of the Tarot?
Daath path 13 is flanked by paths 15 (tarot = devil) and 17 (tarot = star)?

And now apply that to the map of Washington Monument and the surrounding amenities.

namaste

nihil
15-09-2009, 04:55 PM
white house tree of life illuminati
The sephira Gevurah and Chesed are strictly related :

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1702/kab3.jpg



Couldn't be the White House called the house of Chesed instead?


Inbetween Gevurah and Chesed there's a Sephira that has a symbol
associated with the Illuminati :

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8493/spsephirottreeivjpg.gif

cabala tipharet

keystone
15-09-2009, 05:07 PM
Well if these (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23744189-details/moronic-derivative-and-clunky-in-fact-everything-his-fans-were-hoping-for/article.do) reviews are anything to go by Nihil's optimism in the thread title is woefully misplaced. :D

Cheers

nihil
15-09-2009, 05:14 PM
Well if some reviews are anything to go by Nihil's optimism in the thread title is woefully misplaced.

I'm just arguing here...

nihil
15-09-2009, 05:40 PM
Who instructed the ignorant masons about the Kaballah (Cabala) ?

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2933/shadow.gif

The aristocratic Societas Rosicruciana in Scotia, as well as the Societas Rosicruciana in the U.S.A. were branches from the same Rosicrucian source and sprang from a rejuvenation by Frater Robert Wentworth Little.

A certain eminent Jew named Falk, or Dr. Falcon, lived in London and was of high repute as a teacher of the kabalah and of other studies of a Rosicrucian character. Mackenzie (in the "Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry") classes Dr. Falk among the Rosicrucians of eminence, under his magical instructions many Christian students adopted a modification of the old Jewish kabalah, so perhaps some Jews have been allied to the Christian Rosicrucians.

Magus Frater R. W. Little surrounded himself with several other notable Rosicrucian students, as the late Supreme Magus in Anglia, Dr. William Robert Woodman, a learned Kabalist and Hebrew scholar; W.J. Hughan, the great (?) Masonic historian; William Carpenter, editor of Calmet's "Dictionary of the Bible"; Alphonse Constant, better known as "Eliphaz Levi," who gave Fratres Little and Kenneth Mackenzie much assistance, and was in return elected an honorary member of the Metropolitan College in 1873.

The late Lord Lytton, the author of "Zanoni" and "The Strange Story," who was in 1871 Grand Patron of our Society, took very great interest in this form of Philosophy, although he never reached the highest degree of knowledge; for public reasons he once made a disavowal of his membership of the Rosicrucians, but he had been admitted as a Frater of the German Rosicrucian College at Frankfort on the Main; that College was closed after 1850.

The German "Fama Fraternitatis" of 1614, in an English translation by Thomas Vaughan of 1652, presents you with the History of Christian Rosenkreuz: its companion tract the "Confessio Fraternitatis" gives you a slight insight into the views of the Rosicrucians of a date a hundred years later. The "Chymische Hochzeit" or "Chemical Wedding" by C.R., and the "Secret Symbols of the Rosicrucians" by F. Hartman, are tractates of Rosicrucian Allegory which will well repay, not only perusal, but deep study; while the elucidation of the whole set of Medieval Divinatory Sciences, Astrology, Geomancy, etc, are suitable themes for lectures. For such as can understand medieval Latin a most interesting work is the "Oedipus Aegyptiacus" of Athanasius Kircher.

The basis of the Western occultism of medieval Europe is the Kabalah of the medieval Hebrew Rabbis.

This philosophy, although at first sight barbarous and crude, yet will be found, when one has grown familiar with the nomenclature, to be a concrete scheme of Theology, cosmology and metaphysics, serving to throw light on many obscure Biblical passages and to suggest original views of the meaning of most of the allegorical descriptions found in the Old Testament.

The works of the great Rosicrucian Kabalist, Eliphas Levi, are full of magical formulas. His "Histoire de la Magie" is a storehouse of information relating to the Secret Sciences and Secret Fraternities of all times and among many nations.


German Rock Group Rammstein, well into RosenKreutz imagery, chants this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY


- What happened at Rammstein, Germany?

rosecross Societas Rosicruciana

nihil
15-09-2009, 07:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bRnsbdCF5s

zero1
15-09-2009, 08:02 PM
My local lodge recently got done up, paint job and all, looks very quaint and inviting now...

nihil
15-09-2009, 08:10 PM
Masonic authority Albert Pike, in his book Morals and Dogma, states that Masonry is identical with the "ancient mysteries", also called recently Mystery Schools by W.M.Cooper et al., and the ancient mystery religions involved sacred worship rites.

With this background, it is not surprising that in the 19th level (or degree) of Freemasonry, the degree of Grand Pontiff, the Mason is taught that Lucifer (Satan) is not evil, but good! Lucifer (the light-bearer) supposedly brings the light of knowledge to human beings. Remember that the average Mason in the Blue Lodge has never been exposed to the teachings just mentioned, but the higher degrees of Masonry reveal more and more clearly who is the source of the Lodge's teachings. In fact, Albert Pike states that Masons in the first three degrees are deliberately deceived as to the true meaning of the Masonic symbols. Every Mason is acquainted with symbols such as the point within the circle, the letter G, the fivepointed star, the two-sided square, the lamb-skin apron, and the sprig of evergreen which is thrown into the grave of a deceased Mason.

Blue Lodge Masons are given a Christian interpretation of the symbols just named, but the symbols are really occult in nature. Albert Pike says, 'The Blue degrees are but the outer court or portico of the temple. Some of the symbols are displayed there to initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them'.

kadosh
15-09-2009, 08:26 PM
Masonic authority Albert Pike, .....
He was not a Masonic authority and is unknown outside of America. Most Craft (Blue Lodge) Masons would never hear about Pike who was predominantly involved in the Scottish Rite of Masonry in America.

Anti-masonry Frequently Asked Questions http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/anti-masonry01.html

Hoaxes and Frauds - http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/anti-masonry06.html

Freemasonry Watch, or its anonymous author, claims to have proven that Freemasonry worships Lucifer. His collection of quotes though, are taken from non-masons and authors who do not represent Freemasonry. http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/freemason_watch.html

nihil
15-09-2009, 08:28 PM
...due to the previous randomic masonic posts...


It's Funny Time !!



http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8982/baph.gif (http://www.archive.org/stream/TheCurseOfBaphomet?ui=embed)

A Chick tract on the evils of freemasonry !!


Read The Curse Of Baphomet online, it's B/W comics, it's funny and it multilingual too !! (http://www.archive.org/stream/TheCurseOfBaphomet/Baph#page/n1/mode/2up)


the evils of freemasonry exposed to the public

nihil
15-09-2009, 09:19 PM
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7708/pentag.jpg

The Pentagram From Eliphas Levi's (1810-1875) Transcendental Magic

The symbol is a ritual in its compact form. The pentagram is first a sign of the five elements, fire, water, air, earth and spirit. It represents man and the microcosm. To invert the figure is considered by some as a sign of relegating Spirit to the bottom of the metaphysical heap. Others take inversion to be mockery such as inverting the cross or saying the Mass backwards.

The A for Alpha also looks like a Masonic compass.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2738/baphomet1.jpg

Baphomet (The Goat of Mendes, The Sabbatic Goat) drawn by Eliphas Levi


* The name Baphomet according to the wicked E.Levi is a reversed composition of three abbreviations:

Tem - Oph - Ab,

standing for the Latin Templi omnium hominum pacis abhas "The Father of the Temple of Peace Of All Men".

* Chaos Magick author Peter J. Carroll says that Baphomet probably arises from the Greek word Baph-metis which means “Union with Wisdom."

* “Dr. Hugh Schonfield, one of the scholars who worked on the Dead Sea Scrolls believed the Word Baphomet was applied with the Knowledge of the Atbash Cipher. The Atbash Cipher is a Hebrew code which substitutes the first letter of the alphabet for the last and the second letter for the second last and so on. When Baphomet is applied to this code, it generates the Greek word Sophia that is translated in English as "Wisdom." The Greek Goddess Sophia is brought to mind here.” - templarhistory.com


“It is the goat of lust attacking the Heavens with its horns. It is the sign execrated by the initiates of a superior rank, even at the sabbath” say’s Levi.

"Those who regard this ritual as a mere device to invoke or banish spirits, are unworthy to possess it. Properly understood, it is the Medicine of Metals and the Stone of the Wise."

- Aleister Crowley: Palace of the World


pentacles in pseudo-masonic Transcendental Magick

kadosh
15-09-2009, 09:31 PM
Do you have any original thoughts?

nihil
15-09-2009, 09:32 PM
And You?

kadosh
15-09-2009, 09:34 PM
I don't keep posting cut and paste items that have no relevance.

nihil
15-09-2009, 09:37 PM
To you. I argue about what's inside that blockbuster.
Just imagine, mason, a book dedicated to neo-pagan cults...
intriguing, isn't it ??

Can we consider masonry as neo-paganism :confused:

nihil
15-09-2009, 10:49 PM
"Albert Mackey in his Encyclopedia of Freemasonry gives the doctrine of the Masonic Kadosh system. Kadosh doctrine centers around the story of the execution of Jacques de Molay by the Pope and the King of France for satanic crimes. Jacques de Molay was the last head of the Knights Templar and Mackey contends that the Templars continue on in Freemasonry.

Traditions of vengeance upon the execrable King and Pope and the Traitor passed down throughout the ages, and were interwoven with the Egyptian tradition corresponding to our Black Masonry, culminating in what we now call the 30º: this is confirmed by Masonic authority, Albert Pike, who honors Jacques de Molay as the founder of the Scottish Rite.

Just before his execution, the Chief of the doomed Order organized and instituted what afterward came to be called the Occult, Hermetic, or Scottish Masonry."

- The Occult Conspiracy, Michael Howard

keystone
15-09-2009, 10:53 PM
To you. I argue about what's inside that blockbuster.
Just imagine, mason, a book dedicated to neo-pagan cults...
intriguing, isn't it ??

Can we consider masonry as neo-paganism :confused:Have you read it yet, word for word, cover to cover? If you haven't then I don't see how you are in a position to "argue about what's inside that blockbuster". I haven't read it yet (but I will) for for the time being it will most certainly take second place to the Royal Secret that Raphael has suggested that I read.

Cheers

nihil
15-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Well, a tweet told me that fella - as you stated here and there with some links provided - do not seem to exit with completely broken bones from 'good boy' Danny's pen...

But there's an horrible figure in the book, a 33^ with a completely tattoed body, that isn't so puritan in dan brown's pages. Agree it's a novel, but agree that some basic real facts are here: Washington Masonic symbolism is one for sure.

keystone
15-09-2009, 11:29 PM
A tweet! :eek: Oh FFS (excuse my French). My prediction seems to be coming true. :(

Tell you what try this (http://www.slate.com/id/2228327/) automatic sequel generator - enter a city name - enter a society / sect you want to pick on - press go and it does the rest. Then twitter that. Good grief!

Cheers

nihil
15-09-2009, 11:33 PM
In Australia someone has read it. All. Newswpapers asked him about masonry.

His reply was the act of vomit.

keystone
15-09-2009, 11:35 PM
:cool:. Link?

nihil
15-09-2009, 11:38 PM
OK. it is http://www.randomhouse.com.au/ that prized the fastest reader.

Not Brothafella involved... yet :D

nihil
16-09-2009, 12:22 AM
A Novel with some sparkle of truth, as masons that apply for the sorcery àla Sulaiman (Solomon) .

lase
16-09-2009, 04:18 AM
Actually Dan Brown books always bring a flurry of activity at our lodge and our district in general.

They cause a influx of questions which result in a number of petitions which leads to a handful (or more) of candidates.

So no harm done. Just a little time to weed out the ones who are not serious

And you assume the largest majority will be straight down to the lodge steps, bicycle clips, pretractor, porny mag and kneckerchief in hand do you?

Whilst I think that this guys books are damaging to awareness, I think you'll find that the majority of 'weeded out serious ones' will be coming to our side mate.

keystone
16-09-2009, 11:07 AM
Whilst I think that this guys books are damaging to awareness, I think you'll find that the majority of 'weeded out serious ones' will be coming to our side mate.This guys books are works of fiction and not very well written either. Whose side would that be?

Cheers

humason
16-09-2009, 12:04 PM
I'm on page 279 - all I had time for since I got it yesterday.

Sorry, dear Anti-Masons, it's not casting us in a bad light. If anything, it's saying that we should be stricter in guarding our Secrets ;)

Of course, it's full of "minor" fallacies with regards to Masonry, when what happens and the Scottish Rite, but all in all, it's not bad :)

I'll report back when I've read the whole thing.

P.S.: I see Bro. Chris has finished it already, here are his comments:
http://freemasonsfordummies.blogspot.com/

nihil
16-09-2009, 03:50 PM
Illuminati-driven Western Freemasonry has long desired to rebuild Solomon's Temple on the Temple Mount. So evil Masonic forces of the United Kingdom, United States, and Israel are determined to rebuild Solomon's Temple. This plan will bring about a secular World War III. This Temple which was destroyed by the Roman Army that sieged to the city in A.D. 70.


" Of all the objects which constitute the Masonic science of symbolism, the most important, the most cherished, by the Mason, and by far the most significant, is the Temple of Jerusalem. The spiritualizing of the Temple is the first, the most prominent and the most pervading, of all symbols of Freemasonry. Take from Freemasonry its dependence on the Temple; leave out of its ritual all references to that sacred edifice, and to the legends and traditions connected with it, and the system itself would at once decay and die " - Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry, by Albert Mackey, MD, 33º and Charles McClenachan, 33º, Revised Edition, Volume II, published by the Masonic History Company

"Masonry may rightfully claim to be called a religious institution." - A New and Revised Edition: An Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences, by Albert Mackey, M.D., 33º, Volume II, p. 618


So Freemasonry is a syncretic neo-pagan religion: it is stated in many masonic corpuses. "The traditions and romance of King Solomon's Temple are of transcendent importance to Masons." - The Bible and King Solomon's Temple in Masonry, by John Wesley Kelchner

"But the Masons of the Royal Arch, looking beyond this Temple of Solomon, find in Scriptural history another Temple, which years after the destruction of the first one, was erected upon its ruins; and they have selected the second Temple, the Temple of Zerubbabel, as their prominent symbol. And, as the first class of Masons find in their Temple the symbol of mortal life, limited and perishable, they, on the contrary, see in this second Temple, built upon the foundations of the first, a symbol of life eternal, where the lost truth shall be found, where new incense shall arise from a new altar, and whose perpetuity their great Master had promised when, in the very spirit of symbolism, he exclaimed, 'Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up'." Ibid.

Masonic Secrets and the Restoration: Did the Restoration account of Enoch sprang from Masonic lore?
In the teachings of the Royal Arch Order, the revelation about Enoch and the hope of establishing Zion, which are so central to the purpose of the Restoration, came from Masonic lore and not God.
The Royal Arch rite celebrates the discovery of treasure hidden on Mount Moriah and re-enacts how the scrolls unearthed by the Knights Templar under Solomon's Temple were retrieved.

According to Masonic investigators, Egypt began with the unification of two lands, which the ancients symbolized with two pillars. They wrote, 'The Egyptian hieroglyph for the Two Lands, called taui, was what could be described as two east-ward facing pillars. Facing this doorway from the east, the right hand pillar was the one in Lower Egypt, corresponding with the Masonic right-hand pillar Jachin, which represents 'to establish'. For the Egyptians the left-hand pillar marked the connection with Heaven for upper Egypt and in Masonic ritual it is identified as Boaz, said to mean 'strength'. Freemasonry states that the unification of the two pillars represent 'stability'.

Modern Masonry teaches that Hiram Abiff served as chief mason when Solomon built the Temple on Mount Moriah and died in a confrontation in which he was required to divulge where the secret chambers were in the building that held the king's treasures. The high degrees of The Royal Arch claims that they came from two pillars built by Enoch, while pther sources state that Shem built them in Egypt after the flood.

Hence Masonry venerates two pillars. They formed the foundation for ancient Egypt's unification. The left hand pillar, called Boaz, named after the great-grandfather of King David, represents the kingly office, while the right hand pillar, Jachin, named after the high priest who assisted at the dedication of Solomon's Temple, represents the prophetic function. Divine government, according to this symbolism, is stabilized by the proper operation of both the kingly and prophetic duties. A nation is sturdiest when its rightful king and authorized prophet work together.

The Temple of Masonry is hence forward the office of the promised Messiah...


http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8162/antichristcuptea143t.jpg


But which Messiah exactly?


Sources: Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, Henry Linclon - Holy Blood, Holy Grail, Dell Publishing - Page 252

Edward Waite - A New Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and of Cognate Instituted Mysteries: The Rites, Literature and History, Volume II, by Weathervane Books, p. 314

John Ankerberg & John Wedon - The Secret Teachings of the Masonic Lodge, Moody Press, Chicago, Page 120

Ed Decker & Dave Hunt - The God Makers, Harvest House, Eugene

Tertullian - On Idolatry

nihil
16-09-2009, 04:42 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8010/albaph.jpg

Aleister Crowley in Masonic Regalia

Crowley (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76944&highlight=solomon), satanist super-star of modern and contemporary nihilists, dealt with a pseudo-philosophy mixed with sorcery. He was a MI5 (British Intelligence) Agent during WWII, and member of some hidden cults as the OTO.

Established a century ago, the OTO is the "graduate school" of Freemasonry, and is self-titled the "Masonic Academy." It contains all the degrees of Masonry and Illuminism and is the highest secret society for elite Freemasons. An international organization, the OTO is a tax-exempt organized religion in the United States. The writings of its long-time head, Aleister Crowley, who called himself the Great Beast 666, reveal the OTO is grounded in satanism:

Crowley called Satan "my Lord" and said, with regards to the OTO, "We have no scruple in restoring 'devil worship.'" However, in the OTO, the devil worship is not openly done under the name of Satan, but surreptitiously under the name of the goat-headed satanic idol Baphomet. Also termed Lion and Serpent, Baphomet is worshipped as God in the Gnostic Mass, the OTO's central liturgy.

The universal model adopted by modern black-magicians (beginning with Aleister crowley) was derived from the ancient Jewish mystical tradition of the Qabbalah. This tradition possesses three key literatures: the Old Testament, the Talmud, (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10703&highlight=solomon) and the Qabalah itself. While the Talmud is a collection of learned commentaries on the Old Testament, the basis of Qabalah is its mystical interpretation.

Among the chief written works of the Qabalah is the Sefer Yetzirah, The Book of Creation. This book is without doubt the oldest and most arcane of all Qabalistic works. References to the text have been traced to the first century, and the traditions of its use indicate its probable existence in early biblical times. Indeed, this book is so ancient that it is not possible to accurately date either its origins or its author with certainty.
(See: Magick and The Aquarius Key by Keith Rowley)

The Secret Brotherhood is nothing more than a plethora of various neo-pagan secret sects that derive from the ancient Mystery Schools and hide their agenda from the non-member and the neophite.

The Cryptocracy is involved in treacherous acts of deception (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78978&highlight=solomon), the transformation or "alchemical processing" of mass consciousness by psychological mind manipulation. With the help of the secret societies, tests are set up and responses measured, to "shape" world events. The goal is to have the masses live as controlled puppets in the Masonic New World Order.

humason
16-09-2009, 05:00 PM
Are you capable of spewing... you know... relevant comments? How is the same old "Masons are a religion that worships the Devil, Albert Pike was a Satanist and Crowley is the father of the Illuminati Goat that begot all the Masons" - relevant to the discussion on...

How "The Lost Symbol" is going to ruin and expose freemasonry? :)

nihil
16-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Masons are a religion that worships the Devil, Albert Pike was a Satanist and Crowley is the father of the Illuminati Goat that begot all the Masons

The Lost Symbol is going to ruin and expose freemasonry? . Are you masons fearing an over-exposition??

Too many uneducated tourists inside the pentacle???. It's a masonic representative that responded about the skull ritual, cited from The Lost Symbol first chapters: We do not deal with skull on rituals, he said.

"We don't do many rituals."

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8105/0e656eb555a929c597ac498.jpg

Aha. The ritual hide masonic tactics. A secret society opened his rituals thru a best seller novel. Really Creepy.

skulls, rituals, cults

kadosh
16-09-2009, 06:02 PM
All the anti-masons out there and others who buy-in to all the stupid conspiracy theories will be very disappointed with the new book by Brown named The Lost Symbol.

humason
16-09-2009, 06:06 PM
You're kidding, right?

The rituals used in the novel are the age of my father, and haven't been in use in quite some time in the regular masonic Jurisdictions (GS, do you guys still have the "I'll cut my balls off and open my scrotum" bits)?

As to:

"Too many uneducated tourists inside the pentacle???. It's a masonic representative that responded about the skull ritual, cited from The Lost Symbol first chapters: We do not deal with skull on rituals, he said."

Did I miss something? I've read the first chapters, I've never seen that statement, and they're actually using a skull to drink sacramental wine out of? I haven't seen that one around... But, granted, I'm not 33rd SR ;) Not to mention that the SR degrees are "audited" - meaning you look at nice little play given by fat men in costumes - not "worked" as an active participant :) The skull can be found in the "meditation room" as mr. Brown calls it (Chamber of Reflection for everyone else), and in certain aspects of the THIRD degree...

But, I'm sure you're going to come up with some additional "inner" circle which only 34deg and higher know of ;)

P.S.: Nice twisting of my quote and taking it out of context. Go you.

keystone
16-09-2009, 06:10 PM
Now come on - don't be too hard on those who thought it was the endtimes for masonry with this book. Its not very pleasant to have your illusions shattered.

Cheers

kadosh
16-09-2009, 06:17 PM
Phoney Masonry of the O.T.O. - http://users.erols.com/solequis/secret_societies/phoneymasonry.htm - While Crowley was never a member of any legitimate Masonic Lodge, he gloried in the titles of the Scottish Rite and the Antient and Primitive Rite and made several remarkable comments about Freemasonry in his autobiography (or autohagiography, as he called it) as well as in his Equinox. See The Confessions of Aleister Crowley Chapter 72, etc.). His remarks on Freemasonry show a profound lack of knowledge on the subject. He believed, for instance that by merely sitting in Lodge with one irregular "mason" that any and all genuine Masons thereby became "automatically excommunicated" from their Regular Lodges. And further, that any Mason or Masons that they sat with in any Lodge would also be "automatically excommunicated" and so on (see Confessions, Chapt. 72, pp. 695-697). Crowley may only be excused for such idiocy only by the fact that he himself was never a member of any regular Masonic Lodge and actually knew very little about Masonic law, history and custom. He did know that he was not a regular Mason and inquired of the Grand Secretary of the United Grand Lodge of England how to heal his situation, but he never did do anything about it. His phallic interpretation of Freemasonry while not uninteresting was by no means original. See the works of Pike and Mackey on the subject. These ideas had been kicked around for many decades before Crowley came upon them (so to speak).

About OTO - http://oto-usa.org/about_oto.html - O.T.O. was originally affiliated with European Masonry but is no longer a Masonic organization, though it shares some terminology and traditions with Masonry.

thelonious
16-09-2009, 09:26 PM
All the anti-masons out there and others who buy-in to all the stupid conspiracy theories will be very disappointed with the new book by Brown named The Lost Symbol.

It is my understanding that the book is favorable toward Freemasonry, and Lodges are expecting a boom in membership applications because of it (similar to what happened when the film "National Treasure" was released).

kadosh
16-09-2009, 09:35 PM
It is my understanding that the book is favorable toward Freemasonry, and Lodges are expecting a boom in membership applications because of it (similar to what happened when the film "National Treasure" was released).
Yes, my point exactly.

nihil
17-09-2009, 12:07 AM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4604/ktcrest.jpg

1- Royal

2- Exalted

3- Religious

4- Military Order (of)

5- Masonic Knights Templar


Did they keep yo'house clean for a small fee, too?

The poor templors did worship Baphomet.
According to the wicked E.Levi the name is a reversed composition of three abbreviations:

Tem - Oph - Ab

kadosh
17-09-2009, 12:27 AM
1- Royal

2- Exalted

3- Religious

4- Military Order (of)

5- Masonic Knights Templar

nihil - Can I suggest you start now to provide the proper links for where you continue to copy and paste images and text from. Your current method is dishonest.
This is the primary source for what you posted.
The Royal Exalted Religious and Military Order of Masonic Knights Templar of England and Wales
http://www.brad.ac.uk/webofhiram/?section=masonic_knights_templar

nihil
17-09-2009, 12:28 AM
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/482/firsttrace.jpg

- Three great pillars called Wisdom, Strength, and Beauty.



http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2322/tensephirothtreelife.jpg


The Sephira Tiphareth on the Cabala (Kabballah) is called Beauty...


http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7176/1252241257579.gif

- So why don't you tell the newcomers, the ones enthusiastically seeking for
Illuminati symbolism into Washington, DC that they should go directly
to a Rabbi to be enlightened about the Sephirot and the Tiphareth (Beauty) in particular?

- Its sign is the dot inside a circle.

sephira tiphareth masonic or cabalistic

nihil
17-09-2009, 12:40 AM
Your current method is dishonest

For those interested, see:
http://www.brad.ac.uk/webofhiram/?section=masonic_knights_templar


kadosh (member, I suppose) you forgot to quote that The poor templors did worship Baphomet (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=840095&postcount=3) .


See: Eliphas Levi explains Baphomet in Dogme et Rituel, Chapter XV

nihil
17-09-2009, 12:52 AM
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/img1E.jpg

exagram, the female and the male - square and compass - PENTACLE

The US Army pentagon is outside this map.

- Washington, DC Mall has a Rosicrucian cross - note in the middle there's

- the Egypto-masonic Obelisk called Washington monument

- that appears as a dot within a circle.

kadosh
17-09-2009, 01:34 AM
....... you forgot to mention that The poor templors did worship Baphomet.
No, I did not. That myth is complete BS. You seem to believe all these anti-masons websites that quote selective information to make some point - albeit incorrect points when the matter is properly researched. Can I recommend you research the details properly before posting urls and text that is simply ridiculous age old propoganda.

Baphomet - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet - " ... As Karen Ralls, author of Knights Templar Encyclopedia argues that this is significant: "There is no mention of Baphomet either in the Templar Rule or in other medieval period Templar documents. .... Some modern scholars such as Peter Partner and Malcolm Barber agree that the name of Baphomet was an Old French corruption of the name Muhammad, with the interpretation being that some of the Templars, through their long military occupation of the Outremer, had begun incorporating Islamic ideas into their belief system, and that this was seen and documented by the Inquisitors as heresy. .... "

The Baphomet Mythos - http://www.templarhistory.com/baphomet.html - "Although the popular mythology related to the Templars gives this idol the name of Baphomet, the fact remains that in all the testimonies against the Templars, the term Baphomet was used but twice. .... "

Myth of the Baphomet - http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/baphomet.html - "The Baphomet is not a masonic symbol, nor is it worshiped by freemasons. It has no traditional relation to the pentagram, nor the Goat of Mendes, nor Pan, nor the Green Man. The name seems to have first appeared in twelfth century France and its image first appeared in 1855. Then Anton Szandor LaVey and his atheistic Church of Satan adopted it in 1966. But it all starts with the Roman Catholic Inquisition and the Knights Templar. ... "

To understand the association of this goat-headed devil figure with Freemasonry as claimed by anti-Masons, one must follow a long and tortured path which begins in the 12th Century. - http://www.masonicinfo.com/baphomet.htm - "The hoax, despite the recanting by its creator, continues and is accepted as 'gospel' by new generations of religious intolerants. Freemasonry is defamed by a ludicrous charge and those thinking they're religious and right, perpetuate a lie. And the drawing of a goat's head now grotesquely changed becomes the rallying point of those who, in ignorance and/or hatred, defame Freemasonry."

nihil
17-09-2009, 01:43 AM
Baphomet, as depicted by Eliphas Lévi http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Baphomet

...obviously a satanic fake, or not ??

By the way, in The Story of Sex in Religion (p 177):

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2412/templaridol.gif

Idol of Knights Templar, showing semitic influences

See: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/conspiracy/baphomet.html

nihil
17-09-2009, 01:52 AM
Who or what was Baphomet and how did it connect the Templars to the Johannites? The contemporary Johannites, who became separated from mainstream Templarism in the mid 19th century, claim to know. Supposedly their church, the Apostolic Johannite Church, is in possession of secret wisdom descended directly from the chiefs of the Knights Templar.
According to James Foster, former Primate of the Johannite Church, Baphomet of the Templars was the decapitated head of John the Baptist, the “Messiah” of the Johannite tradition. This would explain the extreme sanctity the Templars ascribed to the head and why it was in the sole possession of the Orders’ second in command. According to the Templars at their trial the head possessed special power and could make “trees blossom and the land to produce.” Legend has it that when John’s head was found by the Templars in the Boukoleon Palace in Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade the head had been used to keep an Eleventh Century emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire vibrant and alive through daily passes near his body. This power, known as the Holy Spirit in the West and Kundalini in the East, is the same power John was saturated with during his lifetime
in the Holy Land. It is this power that can awaken itself as a normally dormant evolutionary energy at the base of the spine and culminate in gnostic awareness.

- The Templars & the Vatican by Mark Amaru Pinkham, Atlantis Rising

kadosh
17-09-2009, 01:52 AM
Éliphas Lévi a prolific writer on Magical Freemasonry, was a freemason — but only very briefly. Initiated: 14 March 1861. Quit/dropped from rolls: 21 August 1861. Lodge Rose du Parfait Silence, Grand Orient of France, Paris. - http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/esoterica/levi_e/levi_notes.html

nihil
17-09-2009, 01:56 AM
So the late Baphomet was satanic, due to Eliphas Levi alias Alphonse Louis Constant.

...while the 'original' Baphomet, the Templar one, was simply heretic.

kadosh
17-09-2009, 01:59 AM
.... Legend has it .....
Yes, simply a legend. Not a shred of evidence.

nihil
17-09-2009, 02:01 AM
Unless the head is exposed at public vision.

nihil
17-09-2009, 03:17 AM
The Pentagram is a powerful symbol representing the operation of the Eternal Spirit and the Four Elements under the divine Presidency of the letters of the Name Yeheshuah. The elements themselves in the symbol of the Cross are governed by Yhvh. But the letter Shin, representing the Ruach Elohim, the Divine Spirit, being added thereto, the Name becometh Yeheshuab or Yehovashah - the latter when the letter Shin is placed between ruling Earth and the other three letters of Tetragrammaton.

From each re-entering angle of the Pentagram, therefore, issueth a ray, representing a radiation from the Divine. Therefore is it called the Flaming Pentagram, or Star of the Great Light, in affirmation of the forces of Divine Light to be found therein.

Traced as a symbol of good, it should be placed with the single point upward, representing the rule of the Divine Spirit. For if thou shouldst write it with the two points upward, it is an evil symbol, affirming the empire of matter over that Divine Spirit which should govern it. See that thou doest it not.

Yet, if there may arise an absolute necessity for working or conversing with a Spirit of evil nature, and that to retain him before thee without tormenting him, thou hast to employ the symbol of the Pentagram reversed - for, know thou well, thou canst have no right to injure or hurt even evil Spirits to gratify curiousity or caprice - in such a case, thou shalt hold the blade of thy Magical Sword upon the single lowest point of the Pentagram, until such time as thou shalt license him to depart. Also, revile not evil spirits - but remember that the Archangel Michael of whom St. Jude speaketh, when contending with Satan, durst not bring a railing accusation against him but said:

‘The Lord rebuke thee’.

- Golden Dawn Outer and Inner Order Rituals by Frater Alastor, F.R.C., M.S.T., M:.M:.

The ritual of the pentagram in the Golden Dawn

nihil
17-09-2009, 03:22 AM
The history of the Pentagram Ritual is somewhat obscure, according to recent occultists. According to Regardie, Eliphas Levi makes the first reference to the Pentagram Ritual in TRANSCENDENTAL MAGIC:

"The sign of the Cross adopted by the Christians does not exclusively belong to them. It is also Kabbalistic and represents the oppositions and tetradic equilibrium of the Elements. There were originally two methods of making it (the Cross); one reserved for the priests and initiates, the other set apart for the neophytes and profane. Thus, for example, the initiate, raising his hand to his forehead said: 'Thine is', then brought his hand to his breast, saying: 'the Kingdom', then, transferred his hand to the left shoulder saying: 'Justice', and finally, to the right shoulder, saying: 'and Mercy'. Then, joining his hands together, added: 'through the generating age'. TIBI SUNT MALCHUT ET GEBURAH (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1270734&postcount=36) ET CHESED (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1270748&postcount=38) PER AEONAS - a sign of the cross which is absolutely and splendidly Kabbalistic, and which the profanations of the Gnosis have entirely lost to the official and militant church. The sign made in this manner should precede and terminate the Conjuration of the Four".

That Levi's work is the first place that Regardie finds reference to the Ritual is not surprising since, according to LEGENDA DES FRERES AINES DE LA ROSE CROIX: Levi was the 52nd Imperator of the Rose Croix, succeeding Lord Bulwar Lytton, 51st Imperator, author of ZANONI, and succeeded by W. Wynn Westcott, 53rd Imperator of the Rose Croix, Supreme Magus of the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia, and one of the founding Heads of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.

- Further notes on The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

raphael
17-09-2009, 12:58 PM
- Further notes on The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

pentagram = golden mean = golden ratio = golden spiral = phi = Fibonacci is the most important thing to know about the pentagram.

the golden dawn also used the swastika in their 'rituals'.

I feel Dan Brown's book would have been much much better had he focused on the SWASTIKA as the Lost Symbol.
Maybe I will need to write the sequel to his drivel...

In the Freemason book called The Royal Secret on page 159 we find the quote...

The swastika is the key of all keys, and a knowledge of the numerals of the Hebrew alphabet is necessary to unravel the Mysteries attached thereto.


Is that why every time I quiz the ignorant Freemasons on this site, they know NOTHING about this symbol?
OR
Is that why the arrogant Freemasons are saying nothing on this forum about the SWASTIKA and its merits, and its connection to the Precession of the Equinox cycle and its connection to the bigger picture, because they have taken an oath of silence?

Eh?

The secret is out of the bag dudes.
The 10,000+ year old swastika is the "KEY to unlocking the mysteries..."
;)

And the best part is?
There is NO shortage of evidence.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/about/

namaste

raphael
17-09-2009, 01:15 PM
Yes, simply a legend. Not a shred of evidence.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/BaphometEarly1.gif

Von Hammer-Pürgstall associated a series of carved or engraved figures found on a number of supposed 13th century Templar artifacts (such as cups, bowls and coffers) with the Baphometic idol.

Supposed?
However IF true...
Same ole' symbolism eh?
Sun and the Moon, the pentagram (Venus) and the 7 pointed star.

Like I always say...'THEY' keep re-inventing the wheel of fortunes for us, there is NOTHING NEW under the SUN and the MOON that the ancients had not recorded for posterity.

http://www.ww1westernfront.gov.au/amiens-cathedral/images/amiens-11.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png
Head of St. John the Baptist in Amiens Cathedral

And the skull?
Skull = St. John the Baptist?
Can we connect the HEAD or 'skull' of St. John the Baptist to the Maltese Cross and the Swastika?
YES we can.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/st-john-the-baptist-knights-templar-were-nazis/
Please note the colors used in the composition of the above 'TOMB' of St. John.

Black Grid
White Circle
Red Background

Were the same colors used again and again?
Why are these colors so popular?
The same 3 colors plus gold/yellow can be found on the ameri-Indian medicine wheel too?
YES

But the astute among you will say, hey the gold is missing from the NAZI flag?
WHY?
Because Jews historically were represented by GOLD pointed hats (go sit in the corner mister jew), GOLD rings Frodo (go throw the GOLD ring representing the jew in the fiery Mt. Doom Frodo that is your quest...), and of course the NAZIs simply put a GOLD Star of David on the jew's LEFT side before throwing them into the modern archetypal Mt. Doom, represented by the Holycaust.

SAME COLORS WERE USED again and again ... by the ancients ... always made reference too.
The 3 Norns are also associated with the three colors BLACK< WHITE and RED, the Nordic weavers of fate can be connected to this fundamental archetype also?
YES
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/the-magic-of-3-6-9-and-solfeggio-and-the-3-norns/

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SantaCantalinaMandala.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png

Take a look at my avatar.

The above mandala on the left I photographed in a Roman Catholic Monastery in Peru in 2006.
It is a valuable clue to solving X.
As we can plainly see the NAZI swastika is a direct match.
The architecture is identical.

Black Cross
White Circle
Red Background

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/HalafCeramicsIraqSyria4900BC_7.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikaSamarraIraq4900BCMaltese-1.jpg

http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/%E2%80%9C%E2%80%A6a-noble-theory-of-everything-must-include-the-swastika%E2%80%9D/
This blog investigates the importance of three clay handcrafted plates from around 5000 BC found in Samarra Iraq.
(three plates that were in fact crafted by chiral asymmetric L/R hands connected to the asymmetrical brain...no potter's wheel was used in making these plates.)

Please note one plate has 7 points...and the other plate contains the Maltese Cross.
And the third plate contains an even more amazing symbol in the center.
In the center is usually a spot reserved for really important concepts.
Like gods who were the center of attention...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikaSamarraIraq5000BC-1.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Ondes_cisaillement_2d_20_petit.gif

But the best part of the blog, is it shows how these symbols are in fact representations of SOUND, LIGHT and the 'Holy Spirit', recognized within the RC clergy as simply SS.

And the Holy Spirit = 22/7 = pi?
YES!!!

go read the blog I offered above.
some of you will be glad you did.
some of EWE will be pissed off and start reBLEATING some nonsense about blah blah blah...
>>to be awoken from a deep shleep is rarely appreciated.

namaste

Raphael

thelonious
17-09-2009, 02:32 PM
According to the wicked E.Levi


How exactly was Eliphas Levi "wicked"?

He seems to have been a nice enough chap, and a very prolific writer.

nihil
17-09-2009, 03:48 PM
Opinions make discourse flowing, so a person who says he spawns demons and such is wicked. That's my opinion.

nihil
17-09-2009, 04:06 PM
There's a review that calls the lost symbol something as a Scooby-Doo for adults: a good review to me. The fact that a novel deals with criminal societies, as the Ku Klux Klan and the Rosicrucians, exposing the links between the Templars and Freemasonry, should sound as an alarm to all you masons out there. Dan Brown previously managed to infuriate the Catholic Church and Opus Dei, as well as introducing the Illuminati to the public, now the Tavistock approved Dan Brown spreads into his writings the shadowy organization which have been secretly manipulating history, and other sectarian groups: in The Lost Symbol appears a racist white-suprematist secret society - The KKK.

Ku Klux Klan (http://www.knightskkk.com/whoisbok.html) will be introduced with Albert Pike (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62014&highlight=pike+lucifer) , a US Southern Freemason and Klan member.

nihil
17-09-2009, 04:17 PM
Da Vinci Code was a clash of religion and science, while The Lost Symbol is a power struggle between secret societies and the experiment known as democracy. As expected The Lost Symbol is a fictional book focused at hidden motives of the Founding Fathers. Author John Hafnor says: "So unhealthy was the site of Washington, D.C. that some early presidents conducted business in the roughshod capital only to retreat each night to sleep in on higher ground."

Hafnor then goes mad: "Finally, a recent Sunday New York Post carried the book’s zany tale of George Washington’s doctor proposing to resurrect the frozen corpse of the president. The Frankenstein-like plan was firmly vetoed by Martha Washington."

See: Strange but True America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-O7-pZpz3o)

nihil
17-09-2009, 04:25 PM
So far we got:

Pentacles, White Power, the Experiment of Democracy - my belief that Danny boy is a Tavistock approved agent raises here - and what's next??
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7613/ouijallgrls.jpg

Spiritism for Children ???

See more here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1092284&postcount=4)

nihil
17-09-2009, 05:28 PM
Although the Rose-Cross (RosenKreutz) is an elitarian and originally european cult, his members are known for some of the most famous killings in recent history. Investigators that wrote about Jack the Ripper, or some recent cases as the Zodiac Killer and the Monster of Florence, encountered an unsurpassable wall of silence, as long as their researches focused on lunar phases and ritual aspects related to the serial killings. Most of these criminal investigations just touched the lower portions of the occult pyramid which the Rose-Cross belongs to.
This aristocratic group is well above the standard masonry and the lesser brothers did help the rosicrucians to escape the investigations of such criminous actions.


The Order of Rosicrucians is a sacrifice order. - John Todd.

thelonious
17-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Opinions make discourse flowing, so a person who says he spawns demons and such is wicked.

Where did he say that?

thelonious
17-09-2009, 06:03 PM
The Order of Rosicrucians is a sacrifice order. - John Todd.

As a long-time Rosicrucian, I would say that's true. Rosicrucians are constantly sacrificing their time, money, and talents in order to benefit other people.

kadosh
17-09-2009, 06:11 PM
Stop reading all the propaganda nonsense and read the truth on the matter of Pike and the KKK. All the rubbish posted here concerning conspiracy theories and links concerning those who are anti-masons such as religious zealots can be rebutted with the truth.

Albert Pike - http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/pike_a/pike_a.html

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/images/pike_a.jpg

Albert Pike: The Man Behind the Mysteries: http://community.middlebury.edu/~beyer/sk/%20skforweb/JLevinsPike.doc

nihil
17-09-2009, 06:12 PM
I used the term WICKED.

Ritual sacrifice is the cause of serial killings in Zodiac and Monster of Florence cases.

Not even funny, due to the criminal actions involved here.

Maybe 'in order to benefit from other people' is the right statement.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6786/albertpike.jpg

- Ueberkommander Pike

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6094/giuseppemazzini.gif

-Illuminated Puppeteer Mazzini

- who took the seat of Weishaupt on November 18, 1830


ALBERT PIKE 33 DEGREE MASTER MASON writes to fellow Giuseppe Mazzini on August 15, 1871:


"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social-cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute-atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Again:

"The true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, equal to Adonai, but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is fighting for humanity against Adonai, God of Darkness and God of Evil."

- Albert Pike, Confederate General, 33rd Degree Mason and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry, address to the 23 Confederated Supreme Councils of the World, 14 July 1889

masons, the puppets of the new world order
The 'Illustrious' Manly P. Hall in his book, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, reveals this of the Cult of Freemasonry:

"Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity, an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect. it is necessary to establish the existence of these two separate and yet interdependent orders, the one visible and the other invisible. The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of 'free and accepted' men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most August fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcanum arcanorum."

nihil
17-09-2009, 07:19 PM
"Much of the writings of Albert Pike are extracted from the books of the French magician Eliphas Levi, one of the greatest transcendentalists of modern times. Levi was an occultist, a metaphysician, a Platonic philosopher, who by the rituals of magic invoked even the spirit of Apollonius of Tyana, and yet Pike has inserted in his Morals and Dogma whole pages, and even chapters, practically verbatim. To Pike the following remarkable tribute was paid by Stirling Kerr Jr. , 33 Deputy for the Inspector-General for the District of Columbia, upon crowning with laurel the bust of Pike in the House of the Temple: 'Pike was an oracle greater than that of Delphi. He was Truth's minister and priest. His victories were those of peace. Long may his memory live in the hearts of the Brethren.' Affectionately termed 'Albertus Magnus' by his admirers, Pike wrote of Hermeticism and alchemy and hinted at the Mysteries of the Temple. Through his zeal and unflagging energy, American Freemasonry was raised from comparative obscurity to become the most powerful organization in the land."

- Manly P. Hall, Rosicrucian and Masonic Origins pp 413-414

nihil
17-09-2009, 07:45 PM
By the 1770s, the Illuminati was exposed and banned in Germany and then throughout Europe. Weishaupt made a strategic change that worked miracles for the international spread of his goals. He infiltrated agents into the Freemasonic lodges of England and Scotland, changing their highest tenets to his own, until every lodge in every nation accepted them. Thus, the Illuminati now had two centers of activity, Germany and Britain. It was from Germany to London that the apostate Jews Karl Marx and Frederick Engels were sent to spread the roots of communism. Shortly after that task was done, the Rothschilds sent their agents John Jacob Astor and Jacob Schiff from Germany to America. They financed the robber barons like Rockefeller and Morgan, who in 1922, founded the Council On Foreign Relations, to overthrow the American constitution and switch the nation's diplomacy to Illuminatiism.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1257/karlmarxmeddk7.jpg

" Religion is 'the opiate of the people' "

- Karl Marx, a 32nd degree Grand Orient Mason
(See: Miller, Occult Theocracy, p.726)

Marx, the so-called father of Communism, was paid for his services by the League of the Just. The League of the Just is an extension of the Illuminati. Members in the League were all illuminated Grand Orient Masons. The League of the Just, or 'Bund' was later to become known as the International Communist Party.

Secret Societies and the First International - Boris I. Nicolaevsky (http://libcom.org/library/secret-societies-and-first-international-boris-i-nicolaevsky)

nihil
17-09-2009, 08:15 PM
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6093/newcapitalistpyramidnt1.jpg

The Illuminaten Orden was exposed and suppressed in 1783. After being replaced at the University in February, Weishaupt fled across the border into Regensburg, finally settling in Gotha, where he found refuge with another Illuminati member, the Duke of Saxe-Gotha. Doesn't sound familiar?

See: www.modernhistoryproject.org (http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn01-2#Exposed)

nihil
17-09-2009, 08:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_9D4RtkoMQ

nihil
17-09-2009, 08:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIpbMXRQzoE

The media are just a tool.

nihil
17-09-2009, 09:26 PM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3067/10525108.png

See: Asher Cook - Ku Klux Klan PAGE 10 (http://www.archive.org/details/kukluxklansecret00cookiala)

The Klan early fell a victim to the abuses inseparable
from secrecy. It happened that Tennessee, the birthplace
of the hooded institution, was also the first southern state
to find itself turned upside down in reconstruction. "Dem
Ku-Kluxes," as the negro called the mysterious union, be-
came a band of regulators. Their first official convention
was held in Nashville early in 1867.

The Klan, which, until then, had been bound together
only by the deference which priority rights gave to the
grand cyclops of the parental Pulaski "den," was organized
into the "Invisible Empire of the South." It was ruled by
a grand wizard of the whole empire, a grand dragon of
each realm, or state, a grand titan of each dominion, or
county, a grand cyclops of each den, and staff officers with
names as equally suggestive of Arabian Nights.

For the first time its laws defined serious objects. First
was the duty of protecting people, presumably white south-
erners, from indignities and wrongs; second was the duty
of succoring the suffering, particularly among the families
of dead confederate soldiers ; finally was the oath to defend
"the constitution of the United States and all laws passed
in conformity thereto," and of the states also, to aid in
executing all constitutional laws, and to protect the people
from unlawful seizures and from trial otherwise than by
jury.

It is these purposes which Imperial Wizard Simmons of
the modern clan pretends to perpetuate, plus persecutions
of Jews, Catholics and negroes, while denying charges of
terrorizing outbreaks.

The Nashville convention chose Gen. Nathan B. Forrest,
the confederate cavalry leader, as its supreme ruler. He
is known to have increased the membership of the hooded
horsemen in the old south to 550,000. Among his aids
were Generals John B. Gordon, A. H. Colquitt, G. T. An-
derson, A. B. Lawton, W. J. Hardee, John C. Brown,
George W. Gordon and Albert Pike.

The KKK is just a tool, as the Italian Mafia - these are corrupted' Brotherhoods
with their inner degrees. Designed to keep People divided and more easily
conquered by hidden agendas.

keystone
17-09-2009, 11:01 PM
Seriously man - what's the point of spamming your own thread?

Cheers

nihil
17-09-2009, 11:05 PM
A book is just a tool. Tourists in Washington will ask for the Pentagram, the Sephirot (what?) and the so-above so-below imagery on the enthroned Baphomet

--- Sorry, the enthroned G. Washington, the Fellow.


http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1976/baphometmasonic.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1204/occultwashingtondc23.jpg

George Washington & The Baphomet

Go, youngster! Take the King's sword and slay those infidels!
While at home play America's Army! It's Free!

humason
18-09-2009, 08:51 AM
Seriously man - what's the point of spamming your own thread?

Cheers

Glad I'm not the only one confused. I'd think it's "oh, look, not going in the directin I wanted, let's spam it and see if they give up"?

bluehorseman
18-09-2009, 10:11 AM
^^ I think his posts are pretty informative and his quotes are referenced.:)

keystone
18-09-2009, 10:40 AM
^^ I think his posts are pretty informative and his quotes are referenced.:)To a certain extent you are not wrong. However, he's screwing up his own thread which is about a book. The point of these posts becomes lost in this scenario as does the thread get derailed. Scattergun posting is counterproductive for everybody unless, as an individual, you have time to do the sorting.

Cheeers

nihil
18-09-2009, 01:23 PM
Either you like our-beloved-open-society or you constructively criticize it.
You can oppose other ideals against the Leviathanic System we're into.

Call it tyranny, oligarchy or cryptocracy... it's the zeks control, the making
of a silent majority - the shaping of a society of slaves that actually like to
be enslaved, stumbling from home, to work, to the local church or minor lodge.

Oh. You can hate this system, too. City of London, City of Vatican and
the Columbia District of Washington: financial, religious and weaponry
control over western earth economy, in which a 'democratic' and
'self-governing' nation is cryptically controlled against the will of the people.
It is a clear indication that there must be a sovra-national and well-financed
occult organization which plans and directs world affairs.

US Constitution exists in three realities – the literal paper document, the body
of judicial evaluation and rulings accumulated over the years, and - the most important –
the idea of a living Constitution, that is the value that living men and women give
to the Constitutional paper, the values recognized by the people into the words
of the founding fathers, and the decisions carried into action, according to that value.

Sadly, it is not the realization of a perfect aristotelic government, but it is a
materialistic war machine that follows its own agenda. Not mine, not yours.
So you like it? OBEY and enjoy your slavery. Don't forget to chant the mantras:

It is a fight for freedom! It is a war on terror!

Otherwise you won't accept the neo-colonialist principles of today.
The just war theory won't determine whether or not a war is just based on just cause,
right intention, legitimate authority and other political factors, it is a neocon blabbery,
applied nowadays and taken from ancient roman times. jus ad bellum means
justice for going to war and, as political principle, was applied to the Vietnam war
and the current wars on terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan.

* * *

Against Leviathan: Government Power and a Free Society (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0945999968/lewrockwell/)

The Constitution Con by Michael Tsarion (http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/weapons-additional.html)

thelonious
18-09-2009, 02:16 PM
^^ I think his posts are pretty informative and his quotes are referenced.:)

He quotes fake documents (like the non-existent "letter" from Pike to Mazzini), and can't answer simple questions (like "Where did Levi say anything about spawning demons"?).

Not very informative, and even less referenced.

nihil
18-09-2009, 02:46 PM
Not very informative, and even less referenced.

Pike was fascinated by the idea of a one-world government and ultimately he became the head of this luciferian conspiracy.

Between 1859 and 1871 he, Pike, worked out a military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world which he considered would forward the conspiracy to its final stage in the 20th century. Again I remind you that these conspirators were never concerned with immediate success. They also operated on a long-range view.

Pike did most of his work in his home in Little Rock, Arkansas. But a few years later; when the Illuminati's Lodges of the Grand Orient became suspect and repudiated because of Mazzini's revolutionary activities in Europe, Pike organized what he called the New and Reformed Palladian Right.

- Myron Fagan, The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations

He describes how one Jacob H. Schiff was sent to the United States by the Rothschilds to further the Illuminati plot and how Schiff plotted to get control of both the Democratic and the Republican Parties. How Schiff seduced our Congress and our Presidents to achieve control of our entire money system and create the Income Tax cancer and how Schiff and his co-conspirators created the Council on Foreign Relations to control our elected officials to gradually drive the U.S. into becoming an enslaved unit of a United Nations, One World Government.

Above is an excerpt from his own words, it was 1967. The transcript is widely available (http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu9TVf7NKexcB3pZXNyoA?p=ILLUMINATI+ AND+THE+COUNCIL+ON+FOREIGN+RELATIONS&y=Search&fr=moz35&fr2=sb-top&sao=1), while the original audio tape has been transcribed in mp3 format. Some torrent can be found after a dedicated search as: Myron Fagan - The Illuminati and CFR (Tape Noise Cleaned Out)

After Adam Weishaupt death, Giuseppe Mazzini was appointed as Leader of the Illuminati. He held the position from 1834 till 1872. Under the direction of Giuseppe Mazzini an obscure intellectual joined one of the branch organizations of the Illuminati called The League of the Just. He was Karl Heinrich Marx.

Karl Marx wrote, with the help of Fredrich Engels, the book Das Kapital which became the Bible of the Communist Movement. In 1847 Marx wrote the book known as the Communist Manifesto. A Manifesto is a public declaration of motives and intentions: this text outlined the plans for the future which urged laborers to revolt and urged the government to own all property. The Communist Manifesto was basically an adaptation of the writings of Adam Weishaupt and Clinton Roosevelt (hhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Roosevelt). Just another chapter in a worldwide agenda.


"The high office of President has been used
to foment a plot to destroy the American's
freedom, and before I leave office I must
inform the citizen of his plight."

John F. Kennedy at
Columbia University, 10 days
before his assassination.

nihil
18-09-2009, 03:05 PM
This letter, part of the dispatches between the two puppets, was on display in the British Museum Library in London until its apparent deletion from the official catalogue. C'mon everyone with a minimum grane of salt knows that every museum or library has both catalogued AND uncatalogued items.

During his tenure at the library, Panizzi was embroiled in many controversies, including a long-term dispute with famous historian Thomas Carlyle. While working on his history of The French Revolution, Carlyle had complained in a magazine article that "a certain sub-librarian" had not been very helpful to him, restricting access to uncatalogued documents held by the British Museum. Panizzi never forgot the slight and when Carlyle, then working on the biography of Cromwell, requested the use of a private room at the library for his researches, the request was predictably denied. Despite high-level complaints, Carlyle lost the argument and, miffed, he and his supporters (which included Queen Victoria's husband) started their own library, the London Library.

Re-organize a library could mean delete sometimes...

While at the library, Panizzi undertook the creation of a new catalogue, based on the "Ninety-One Cataloguing Rules" (1841) which he devised with his assistants. These rules served as the basis for all subsequent catalogue rules of the 19th and 20th centuries, and are at the origins of the ISBD and of digital cataloguing elements such as Dublin Core. He was also influential in enforcing the Copyright Act of 1842, which required British publishers to deposit with the library a copy of every book printed in Britain.

- See the re-organization of the British Library by a controversial assistant on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Panizzi) .


After the Civil War, Pike relocated to New York and later to Canada. In 1865, President Andrew Jackson, a fellow Freemason, gave Pike a formal pardon for his military misdeeds, which were found to be lacking in evidence. Free to practice law once again, Pike became an associate justice of the Arkansas Supreme Court. In 1867, he practiced law in Memphis, Tennessee, where he also served as editor of the newspaper Memphis Appeal. He finally moved his law office to Washington, D.C. in 1870 and became editor of the Patriot newspaper.
An obvious agent and puppet of an elitarian international agenda.

nihil
18-09-2009, 03:34 PM
"Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country for a peculiar and particular purpose, known only to the initiated few."

- Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI

secret body
What's this secret and augustus rotten corpse?

It's the New and Reformed Palladian Ritual or “New and Reformed Palladium”

New and Reformed Ritual
Again, the chaotic-anarchist Mazzini is hereby cited:

“we instead must create a Supreme Ritual, that it will remain secret, in which we will convene those massoni of high degree that we will choose. In the comparisons of the other siblings in the masonry we must demand the most absolute secret. Through this Supreme Ritual, we will govern on the Masonry that will become, thus, the international center still more powerful because its direction will be disowned”

See: Lady Queensborough, Occult Theocracy.

Palladian Rite
“In the Palladian Rite were admitted the Kadosh Knights (30° of the R.S.A.A.) or degrees equivalents of other rituals, as the M. M. The palladian hierarchy had three degrees: “Palladian Kadosh”, “Palladian Gerarch”, “Elect Wizard”. The Palladists were placed over the Supreme Councils formed from the exponents of the 33° degree of the R.S.A.A and, from such positions, it came down to the inferior degrees for successive infiltrations”

See: Epiphanius, Massoneria e Sette Segrete: la Faccia Occulta della Storia, Page 104.

R.S.A.A. is the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Italian Freemasonry
and M. M. is the Masonic Order of the Ancient and Primitive Rite of Memphis-Misraim.

nihil
18-09-2009, 03:53 PM
So don't tell me there's NOT some Palladian Rite in masonry... The Palladian Society of Skull and Bones (est. 1876) is known for the Leadership puppets chosen between the Bonesmen… the Palladian Order of Skull and Bones, chapter 592 of the Palladian Rite.

Don't you know?

kadosh
18-09-2009, 04:07 PM
Edith Starr Miller, Lady Queensborough (1887-1933) was a New York socialite, conspiracy theorist. Her theories were outlined in her posthumously published Occult Theocrasy, though in fact she brought nothing new to the discussion of the secret societies and their alleged conspiracies. Her information was drawn from existing sources - the hoaxers Dr. Karl Hacks and Leo Taxil; Taxil's supporter, Clarin de la Rive, the anti-mason Samuel Paul Rosen; the theosophist Alice Bailey; the anti-semite Nesta H. Webster; and Christina M. Stoddard, who wrote under the pseudonym "Inquire Within".

Rewriting History - http://www.masonicinfo.com/rewrite.htm - One of the more hilarious things about the author of the Freemasonry Watch website.

Is It True What They Say About Freemasonry? The Methods of Anti-Masons - http://www.srmason-sj.org/web/SRpublications/DeHoyos.htm - But for readers who resent being lied to and resent even more the implication that they are too stupid to know the difference, this book will come as something of a revelation.

nihil
18-09-2009, 04:52 PM
Edith Starr Miller, who became known as an anti-Mormon agitator.

Occult Theocrasy was originally published in the UK in 1933. An excerpt:

“Theurgy is the highest degree of occultism. Necromancy is limited to the summoning of dead souls, but the Theurgists of the nineteenth century evoke entities qualified to them as genii, angels of light, exalted spirits, spirits of fire, etc. In their meetings, scattered throughout the world, they worship Lucifer. The three mysterious letters J .’. B .’. M .’., that the common initiates see in the Masonic Temples, are reproduced in the meeting rooms of the Luciferians, but they no longer mean Jakin, Bohaz, Mahabone, as in the Lodges, nor Jacques Bourguignon Molay, as with the Knights Kadosch; in Theurgy these three letters mean; Jesus Bethlemitus Maledictus. Theurgy is therefore pure Satanism.”


Occult Theocrasy is available here:

www.archive.org

www.scribd.org

marpat
18-09-2009, 04:55 PM
Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE

Brother Masons, next Dan Brown sell-out book will accuse YOU, masons, and
hopefully will doom your deceptive satanist trait d' union forever.

Dan Brown
Take any good street map of downtown Washington and find the Capital
Building. Facing the Capital from the Mall and using the Capital as the
head or top of the compass, the left leg is represented by Pennsylvania
Avenue and the right leg by Maryland Avenue. The square is found in the usual Masonic
position with the intersection of Canal Street and Louisiana Avenue. The
left leg of the et aass stands on the White House and the right leg stands on
the Jefferson Memorial. The circle drive and short streets behind the
Capital form the head and ears of what Satanists call the GOAT OF
MENDES, or the GOAT'S HEAD!
dan brown

Good boy Danny includes a Map of Washington D.C. Showing Masonic Symbols.
Look at the Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE:
just in the middle of the pentagram!

the lost symbol
On top of the White House is an inverted 5 pointed star, or
PENTAGRAM. The point is facing south in true occult fashion.
It sits within the intersections of Connecticut and Vermont
Avenues, north to Dupont and Logan Circles, with Rhode Island and
Massachusetts going to Washington Circle to the West and Mt. Vernon
Square to the East.
The center of the pentagram is 16th Street where, thirteen blocks due north
of the very center of the White House, one finds the Masonic HOUSE OF
THE TEMPLE, which sits at the top of this occult iceberg.
The Washington Monument stands in perfect line to the intersecting point
of the form of the Masonic Square, stretching from the House of the
Temple to the Capital Building. Within the hypotenuse of that right
triangle sit many of the headquarter buildings for the most powerful
departments of government, such as the Justice Department, U.S. Senate,
and the Internal Revenue Service.
It would be great to know that your nation's Capital is bathed in continual
prayer and to believe that its building and monuments have been dedicated
in prayer, but do you realize that every key Federal building from the
White House to the Capital has had a cornerstone laid in a Masonic ritual
and has specific Masonic paraphernalia placed in each one. Again,
wonderful if we were talking about our one true God in all this, but such is
not the case. The cornerstone of all these buildings have been laid in
Masonic ritual, dedicated to the demonic god of Freemasonry, JAO-BULON
That is the secret name of the Masonic god, the LOST WORD in the
rite of the Royal Arch Degree. JAO is the Greek name for the god of the
Gnostics "ladabaoth or lao;" BUL is a rendering of the name "Ba'al" and
ON is the Babylonian name for the Egyptian god "OSIRIS."
What we see represented in this name of the Masonic deity is a three headed
pagan deity so remote from the Christian faith as to damn the eternal soul of anyone
who would dare to
pronounce its name in worship. The full explanation for this is found in
-Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor, Third Ed. pp. 224-226, 249-
251.

The Washington Monument actually represents the PHALLIC
PRINCIPLE upon which SPECULATIVE Masonry is based. From above,
the monument and its circular drive, form the esoteric Masonic "Point
within a circle." The Reflecting Pool bears its shadow image, with the
illusion duplicated in the Lincoln Memorial.
Strange? Not if you understand the occult principles involved. The
respected Masonic author and authority, Albert Mackey, states in
MACKEY'S MASONIC RITUALIST; (pp. 62-63):
"The point within a circle is an interesting and important
symbol in Freemasonry ... The symbol is a beautiful but
somewhat obtuse allusion to ... sun-worship and introduces
us for the first time to that modification among the ancients
as the worship of the PHALLUS. The Phallus was an
imitation of the male generative organ. It was represented
usually by a column, which was surrounded by a circle at
its base, intended for the cteis, or female generative orge
39This union of the Phallus and the Cteis, which is well
represented by the point within the circle, was intended by
the ancients as a type of the prolific powers of nature,
which they worshipped under the united form of the
activity or male principle and the passive or female
principle."

The Satanic pentagram under which the White House sits is an
open door through which Satan has access to the White House.
The Pentagram, or five-pointed star is, of course, both a Masonic symbol
and an ancient symbol of witchcraft. With its point facing down (or south),
it is especially found in Satanism. Satanists can be seen wearing the
inverted pentagram; and it appears in many black magic books, including
THE SATANIC BIBLE. It is also the signet of the EASTERN STAR, the
lady's Masonic organization.
Dan Brown

Adieu Masons... you won't miss us!! You're doomed: 1st edition is out
on 15 sept. in a mere 5 million copies :)
Wouldn't you buy them all to cover your forthcoming doom ?!

Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE

Its pretty sad that you think a fictional book will destroy the masons. Did the Da Vinci code detroy the church? did it fuck.

nihil
18-09-2009, 04:56 PM
"God loves the Void, which He has made that He may fill it; Knowledge loves Ignorance, which it enlightens; Force loves Weakness, which it sustains; the Good loves the Apparent Evil, which makes it glorious; the Day is amorous of the Night, and incessantly pursues it around the world. Love is at once a thirst, and a fullness that must flow forthabroad. Whatever gives movement receives it; and whatever receives it gives it. It is a perpetual exchange."

"Satan is then necessary to Michael, as the pedestal to the statue; and Michael to Satan, as the brake to the locomotive."

- Albert Pike, Legendas XIX° ~ XXX°, pp. 40 - 44. No date, no publishing data.

kadosh
18-09-2009, 05:00 PM
nihil - You need to get a life for yourself.

marpat
18-09-2009, 05:00 PM
You quote it but do you have any idea what is being said? do you know the essence of that which you quote?

nihil
18-09-2009, 05:02 PM
Its pretty sad that you think a fictional book will destroy the masons. Did the Da Vinci code destroy the church?

Please Don't Feed the Trolls: "either a person who sends messages on the Internet hoping to entice other users into angry or fruitless responses, or a message sent by such a person."

I'm arguing here... why the pentacles? Do you like your Oaths? Good for you, but I don't like'em. So respect my idea, even if it's different from yours. Thank you.

It's all in the bloodlines, so either you're into a luciferian illuminati (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82342) bloodline, or you're a pawn in this wicked game.

marpat
18-09-2009, 05:07 PM
Please Don't Feed the Trolls: "either a person who sends messages on the Internet hoping to entice other users into angry or fruitless responses, or a message sent by such a person."

I'm arguing here... why the pentacles? Do you like your Oaths? Good for you, but I don't like'em. So respect my idea, even if it's different from yours. Thank you.

You are not arguing. You are making a pathetic claim based on personal fantasy. FYI I am not a mason either!! the only person who fears oaths is one that lacks the honour to fulfil them.

Can you tell me what is wrong with pentacles? you quote Dan Browns work but in the da Vinci code the pentalce isclaimed as a goddess siymbol. What is wrong with that? in modern rituals it indicates the five elements. Again, why is that a problem? the pentacle can also relate to the name of Jesus when written in Hewbrew letters, YHShVH, Jeheshau.

nihil
18-09-2009, 05:07 PM
nihil - You need to get a life for yourself.

And you should buy and read this: Proofs of a Conspiracy Against All the Religions and Governments of Europe (http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Religions-Governments-Freemasons-Illuminati/dp/0766181243)

Unless you want to be a useless puppet of the Illuminati (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82342), obviously. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/editor/smilie.gif

marpat
18-09-2009, 05:09 PM
And you should buy and read this: Proofs of a Conspiracy Against All the Religions and Governments of Europe (http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Religions-Governments-Freemasons-Illuminati/dp/0766181243)

Unless you want to be a useless puppet, obviously. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/editor/smilie.gif

Is this the method of control that you submit to, believe this or be a puppet?

nihil
18-09-2009, 05:17 PM
Can you tell me what is wrong with pentacles? The pentacle can also relate to the name of Jesus when written in Hewbrew letters, YHShVH, Jeheshau.

YHShVH can be interpreted Jeheshau or not, due to the fact that Hebrew doesn't provide vowels. It is the Key to the 72 Names of God of the Kabbalah. It is negative Shem Hamphorash.

See: Agrippa: "De Occulta Philosophia", book III, chapter 25

nihil
18-09-2009, 05:23 PM
Where was Aleister Crowley during Hitler's miserable stay in Pasewalk Hospital? (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Pasewalk+Military+Hospital&btnG=Google+Search)

keystone
18-09-2009, 05:28 PM
Where was Aleister Crowley during Hitler's miserable stay in Pasewalk Hospital? (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Pasewalk+Military+Hospital&btnG=Google+Search)OK I'll bite - where was he?

Cheers

nihil
18-09-2009, 05:36 PM
Hitler as Crowley's Guinea Pig. Link provided. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Pasewalk+Military+Hospital&btnG=Google+Search)

See:

Nigel West, MI5: British Security Service Operations 1909-1945, (Great Britain, 1981).

Anthony Masters, The Man Who Was M (Oxford, 1984).

marpat
18-09-2009, 07:01 PM
YHShVH can be interpreted Jeheshau or not, due to the fact that Hebrew doesn't provide vowels. It is the Key to the 72 Names of God of the Kabbalah.

See: Agrippa: "De Occulta Philosophia", book III, chapter 25

Is that the only source book you know? read some modern ones and you will see that YHShVH is often attributed to the 5 points of the pyramid. Its almost funny having somebody like you tell me what to study.

marpat
18-09-2009, 07:03 PM
Where was Aleister Crowley during Hitler's miserable stay in Pasewalk Hospital? (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Pasewalk+Military+Hospital&btnG=Google+Search)

Is this related to the masons being doomed or are you taking your own thread off topic?

nihil
18-09-2009, 07:05 PM
religion against spirituality

Freemasonry is Shabbataism for gentiles.

tools of an unknown god
It's an option, you can follow it - or NOT.

- Want to follow a not-well-known Light Bearer?

- No a problem to me.

Religious choices are personal, so I don't give a s**t.

But, Sirs, political choices do influence everyone's life,

so the funny masons here and there could explain the

following:


“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a National system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer not being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be non the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two would figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner; every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”

- Edward Mandell House, illuminati agent to the Bro. AND President Woodrow Wilson.

nihil
18-09-2009, 07:17 PM
Is this related to the masons being doomed or are you taking your own thread off topic?

Vaguely related to an occult agent that appears in some Signatures, from trolls into this very thread.

By the way,

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9026/crowley1.jpg

Thelema's alive & kickin'

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3561/jayzthouwilt.jpg

See: Jay-Zs-Run-This-Town-and-the-Occult-Connections (http://justgetthere.us/blog/archives/Jay-Zs-Run-This-Town-and-the-Occult-Connections.html)

marpat
18-09-2009, 07:30 PM
So what is the point about thelema?

nihil
18-09-2009, 07:44 PM
“How restore faith in the Gods? There is only one way; we must get to know them personally. And that, of course, is one of the principal tasks of the Magician.”

-Aleister Crowley, Magick Without Tears, Cap. LXXVI

Crowley tells us that the only way to really accomplish the Great Work, on the personal scale or in light of human development as a whole, is to “make contact with higher intelligences.” The force that these intelligences exert upon us divides the Will, because they act on the psychological complexes inherent in the human mind giving them ‘a Will of their own,’ which they use to manifest their separate agendas through spontaneous unconscious actions. Crowley tries to ride the tiger without even knowing it. Obviously a schizophrenic personality type.

“Freud is seeking the complexes, I am not. That is just the difference. I am looking for what the unconscious is doing with the complexes, because that interests me very much more than the fact that people have complexes. We all have complexes. It is a highly banal and uninteresting fact. Even the incest complex, which you can find everywhere if you look for it, is highly banal and uninteresting. It is only interesting to know what people do with their complexes; that is the practical question that matters.”

-C.G. Jung, Analytical Psychology in Theory and Practice, p. 93-94

Jung describes the analysis of the complex as “uninteresting” .

marpat
18-09-2009, 09:14 PM
-Aleister Crowley, Magick Without Tears, Cap. LXXVI

Crowley tells us that the only way to really accomplish the Great Work, on the personal scale or in light of human development as a whole, is to “make contact with higher intelligences.” The force that these intelligences exert upon us divides the Will, because they act on the psychological complexes inherent in the human mind giving them ‘a Will of their own,’ which they use to manifest their separate agendas through spontaneous unconscious actions. Crowley tries to ride the tiger without even knowing it. Obviously a schizophrenic personality type.



-C.G. Jung, Analytical Psychology in Theory and Practice, p. 93-94

Jung describes the analysis of the complex as “uninteresting” .

According to who? why dont you actually quote the Crowley text rather than giving a personal opinion on it. The chances are that you are just distorting it. What you write seem unconnected to the quote.

What has jung got to do with anything?

nihil
18-09-2009, 09:26 PM
Karl G. Jung gave the answers to many of our human spiritual questions. The archetypal imprinting is in every one of us. A complete comprehension of our spiritual needs - what is commonly known as religion - should include a study of the junghian archetypes, otherwise we all fall into the useless hype of the Clichés.

See: Marshal McLuhan, From the Cliché to the Archetype.

marpat
18-09-2009, 09:30 PM
Karl G. Jung gave the answers to many of our human spiritual questions. The archetypal imprinting is in every one of us. A complete comprehension of our spiritual needs - what is commonly known as religion - should include a study of the junghian archetypes, otherwise we all fall into the useless hype of the Clichés.

See: Marshal McLuhan, From the Cliché to the Archetype.

Not everybody agrees with jungs work you know. All he did was to take old ideas and relabel them. Many of the human questions have been answered long before jung came along, just using different explanations.

nihil
18-09-2009, 09:57 PM
'Hand of the Mysteries' is it The good ol'Left Hand Path in disguise ??


http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3544/phandmys2.jpg


"The wise take their oath by this hand that they will not teach the
Art without parables." To the Qabbalist the figure signifies the operation of the One
Power [the crowded thumb] in the four worlds (the fingers with their emblems).
Besides its alchemical and Qabbalistic meanings, the figure symbolizes the hand of a
Master Mason with which he "raises" the martyred Builder of the Divine House.

_ __ __________________________ __ _


Post the above image to your profile in any blog ! (http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=blogpost&files=img32/3544/phandmys2.jpg)

_ __ _________________________ __ _

marpat
18-09-2009, 10:07 PM
Thats odd because I could swear that the picture shows a right hand.

nihil
18-09-2009, 10:34 PM
In the George Washington Masonic Memorial in Virginia, USA, there is an anteroom with a large portrait of the Colonial period Grand Master Lafayette wearing the Templar Apron bearing the skull and crossbones. The same apron images have also been found elsewhere, such as Michigan, Detroit and Jackson and I am sure that these are not the only ones, as several members have also pointed out to me that they too have seen the aprons.

According to Masonic history the apron can only be dated back to the late 18th century and to the revisions carried out by Thomas Smith Webb where he pointed out that The flap black, and a skull and cross bones embroidered in silver thereon.

On another apron is described by Cornelius Moore in 1859, An Apron of black velvet of a triangular form, trimmed in silver lace. On the top or flap is a triangle, with twelve holes perforated through it; in the centre of the triangle is a cross and serpent; on the centre of the apron is a scull and cross bones, and at equal distance from them, in a triangular form, a star with seven points; in the centre of each star a red cross. - From The Craftsman and Freemasons Guide, 1859.

The Untold Tale of the Templar Shining Ones (http://www.esolibris.com/articles/alternative_history/skull_crossbones.php)

The esoteric element was more prominent in the 'Red' Masonry than in the 'Blue'. But Red or Scottish Masonry can also be seen as a return to more traditional ideas of hierarchy and social order....But the Scottish higher degrees meant the implied rejection of at least a part of the ideal of egalitarianism. The higher grades involved the subordination of the lower, and also the ignorance on the part of the lower grades of the wisdom enjoyed by the higher." - Peter Partner, The Murdered Magicians

marpat
19-09-2009, 12:08 AM
So what?

nihil
19-09-2009, 12:47 AM
If you click on the link provided, you'll find a story that I found interesting. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Keys of Solomon (Clavicula Salomonis)

On this Grimoire, or medieval handbook of Magic, we find some pentacles, as:

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2659/s164r.gif

The second pentacle of Venus (folio 64 recto)


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9954/s166r.gif


The first pentacle of Mercury - It serveth to invoke the spirits who are under the Firmament. (folio 66 recto)


Kabbalah: The sacred books of Orthodox Judaism which form a large part of the basis of the western secret societies, from Rosicrucianism to Freemasonry (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=82647) and the OTO. Kabbalism is itself derived from the sorcery of ancient Babylon and Pharaonic Egypt.

- Craig Heimbichner, Blood on the Altar


The Cabalists compared the Talmud to an unfruitful rock, while the study of the Cabala is like a fresh gushing spring. Author Rubin, in Kabbala and Agada, 1895, says that, according to Abulafia the Cabalists only were genuine men, and the Talmudists monkeys.

Cabalists searched to enable the soul to connect itself with the realm of light and its spirits, or to be transplanted after death into its heavenly abode. With the mysterious name of God they believed themselves enabled to heal the sick, to deliver demoniacs and to extinguish conflagrations. By application of the right formulas of prayer, man was to have power and influence on both the kingdoms of light and darkness. When the Cabalist prays, the magical names of God can even deliver the condemned and free them from their torments in their place of punishment. In this respect we even meet with the doctrine of the Catholic mass for the souls.

The Book of Psalms with its songs and prayers was especially considered as a means of producing all manner of miracles and magic, as may be seen from the Sepher Shimmush Thehillim (the Book of the Cabalistic Application of the Psalms), by Gottfried Selig, Berlin, 1788.

See: http://www.omsh.net/


Chesed is the third Sephira is located in the right arm, and is about the creative, nourishing energies in the universe.

Gevurah is the fourth Sephira and is about severity, discipline and force.
It' represented as the severe left arm of God.
This fourth insight is about competition, and using force or strength to take energy from others to nourish ourselves.

Tiphareth is located in the heart, and is about beauty, balance, and harmony. Tiphareth balances Chesed and Gevurah, creativity and discipline. Beauty is a form or aspect of harmony and balance.

marpat
19-09-2009, 06:23 PM
Actually chesed is the fourth sephira and is associated with the left arm. Geburah is associated with the right arm because it represents strength.

Fucking hell, where do you get your material from?

nihil
19-09-2009, 07:06 PM
James Redfield's The Celestine Prophecy - New Age Guidebook: a novel bestseller.

raphael
19-09-2009, 07:22 PM
Actually chesed is the fourth sephira and is associated with the left arm. Geburah is associated with the right arm because it represents strength.

Fucking hell, where do you get your material from?

Not from me...because I would go further and point out how ALL of this Iluminati/Freemason/Rosicrucian/Vatican CRAP can be traced to much older cultures that were 'wiped out' by the same wankers running the secret societies, that now want to control the symbolism.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Rosenkreutz-1.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/NazcaTreeofLifeHeron.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Symbols/IndianArchitectureTheGREATSERPENTMO.jpg

First image: European 17th century Christian Rosenkreuz and the TREE of LIFE
Second image: 900 ft Heron NAZCA LINES circa BCE 200.
Third image: 600 ft Serpent Mounds in Ohio. BCE 1000

http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=186750#p186750
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/nazca-line-mystery-solved-part-ii/

namaste

marpat
19-09-2009, 08:32 PM
Not from me...because I would go further and point out how ALL of this Iluminati/Freemason/Rosicrucian/Vatican CRAP can be traced to much older cultures that were 'wiped out' by the same wankers running the secret societies, that now want to control the symbolism.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Rosenkreutz-1.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/NazcaTreeofLifeHeron.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Symbols/IndianArchitectureTheGREATSERPENTMO.jpg

First image: European 17th century Christian Rosenkreuz and the TREE of LIFE
Second image: 900 ft Heron NAZCA LINES circa BCE 200.
Third image: 600 ft Serpent Mounds in Ohio. BCE 1000

http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=186750#p186750
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/nazca-line-mystery-solved-part-ii/

namaste

But if you cant get simple things right then how can anybody trust anything you post? the error I highlighted was very simple yet you screwed up.

Its one thing posting pics but its is pointless if you dont know anything about what they show.

nihil
19-09-2009, 08:34 PM
I told you, that was a wrong quote from a novel.

Next time I'll quote Athanasius Kirchner.

nihil
19-09-2009, 08:45 PM
"Most people are familiar with the twelve constellations assigned to the zodiac. But the sun actually travels through thirteen each year. The forgotten constellation is Ophiuchus vel Serpentarius (Latin for Ophiuchus the Serpent Holder), known also as Serpentaire in French. He fills most of the large void between Antares and Vega.

"Ophiuchus holds a serpent named Serpens, divided into two parts. Its head, shown on the map as Serpens Caput, extends to the west of Ophiuchus, while its tail, Serpens Cauda, lies to the east...

"Ophiuchus is best seen in summer in the Northern Hemisphere and winter in the Southern Hemisphere."

- Serpentarius - Serpentaire: http://serpentaire.farault.com/about.htm

marpat
19-09-2009, 08:58 PM
This is not actually very secret you know. I remember that it was mentioned in the tabloids many years ago.

nihil
19-09-2009, 09:03 PM
Not secret, but out of the present zodiac. Hindus count many more constellations.

marpat
19-09-2009, 09:12 PM
Not secret, but out of the present zodiac. Hindus count many more constellations.

Not all cultures use the same style of astrology. The fact is that no matter how you divide the sky up there is no clear dividing line between one sign and the next. It is a gradual merging so in effect you could introduce signs to count for this and use any small star in that region as a marker. These are not precise, exact sciences you know.

nihil
19-09-2009, 09:17 PM
Occultistm consider the Tetragrammaton [YHWH] to be the 'Ineffable Name' too sacred to pronounce, which in effect denies that Jesus Christ came into flesh. The kingdom of the Antichrist will seek to present itself as the 'Kingdom of God', however its 'god' is Saturn/Satan.

"The West Semitic deity Shalem or Shulman is the god whose name is perpetuated in that of the city of Jerusalem, 'the foundation of Shalem.' In the Assyrian vocabulary...he is identified with Ninurta, the Assyro-Babylonian diety manifested in the planet Saturn...just as Ninurta in Assyria and Babylonia was looked upon as the founder of a number of cities and El Kronos, the Saturn diety of the Canaanites, was deemed the founder of Byblos in Phoenicia...so too was the Saturn deity of Jerusalem was regarded as the city's founder. His city, particularly the sacred precinct within it, restrained the waters of chaos beneath, and was considered the center of the earth."


- Crimm, Keith, Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, Supplementary Volume, Abingdon Press,1976.

marpat
19-09-2009, 09:34 PM
Occultistm consider the Tetragrammaton [YHWH] to be the 'Ineffable Name' too sacred to pronounce, which in effect denies that Jesus Christ came into flesh. The kingdom of the Antichrist will seek to present itself as the 'Kingdom of God', however its 'god' is Saturn/Satan.

"The West Semitic deity Shalem or Shulman is the god whose name is perpetuated in that of the city of Jerusalem, 'the foundation of Shalem.' In the Assyrian vocabulary...he is identified with Ninurta, the Assyro-Babylonian diety manifested in the planet Saturn...just as Ninurta in Assyria and Babylonia was looked upon as the founder of a number of cities and El Kronos, the Saturn diety of the Canaanites, was deemed the founder of Byblos in Phoenicia...so too was the Saturn deity of Jerusalem was regarded as the city's founder. His city, particularly the sacred precinct within it, restrained the waters of chaos beneath, and was considered the center of the earth."


- Crimm, Keith, Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, Supplementary Volume, Abingdon Press,1976.

How can it deny jesus coming into being? his name in Hebew is YHShVH. Can you explain this theory as I have never heard it before and I would appreciate your personal knowledge and experience. To my mind the only person who would make such a claim would be a christian trying to demonise the god of the jews, which even happens in this very forum.

So how long do you think it will take until Dan Brown eliminates the masons with his fictional books?

nihil
19-09-2009, 09:46 PM
The Hebrew YHShVH has many meanings. Again, vowels must be inserted here to speak in tongue. So you care about masonry? Good for you, for me a novel dealing with masonry and the occult as Dan Brown does, just exposes the correlations between masons and other teachings as the Cabala. The Pike figure, if studied, shows his real face soon. Pike introduces the White Brotherhood as outpost of Arianism in the new world. Aryan principles to the new world: A new world Aryan order.

Blavatsky and Olcott with their Theosophy ideology (pure rubbish IMHO) became popular at the end of the 1800's because of its introduction to Eastern religions and the calculated time-lapse of their offspring. Blavatsky claimed to have been party to revelations from Hidden Masters called the 'Great White Brotherhood' who, she later admitted in letters to her sister, were the Rosicrucian hierarchy who funded her. It is clear her work is influenced, in the work of Masonic demagogue General Albert Pike - the American South's Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, Civil War criminal, and leading member of the Ku Klux Klan - who revealed Rosicrucian/Masonic doctrine and its Aryan heritage in his unpublished pamphlet that was distributed to the Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret (32nd degree) Scottish Rite initiates.

nihil
19-09-2009, 09:59 PM
Albert Pike is regarded as bringing order out of chaos by rewriting the ancient rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, formerly devised by groups in France - including the Council of the Emperors of the East and West (now known as the European Council of Princes) and the Royal Stewart's Chapter of Clermont, based at the College of the Jesuits, Paris in 1761. Pike 'modernized' these rituals and explained their Aryan source and meaning in Morals & Dogma and other works.

Blavatsky's breakthrough book The Secret Doctrine (1888) was an attempt to popularize the racist concepts of Rosicrucian belief at a time when America was recovering from the Civil War, and the abolition of Slavery was forcing a redefinition of the West's perception of Race.

Just notice the perfect timing, as in the French Masonic Revolution and the rise of Napoleon.

See the thread HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80669) .

marpat
19-09-2009, 10:26 PM
The Hebrew YHShVH has many meanings. Again, vowels must be inserted here to speak in tongue. So you care about masonry? Good for you, for me a novel dealing with masonry and the occult as Dan Brown does, just exposes the correlations between masons and other teachings as the Cabala. The Pike figure, if studied, shows his real face soon. Pike introduces the White Brotherhood as outpost of Arianism in the new world. Aryan principles to the new world: A new world Aryan order.

Blavatsky and Olcott with their Theosophy ideology (pure rubbish IMHO) became popular at the end of the 1800's because of its introduction to Eastern religions and the calculated time-lapse of their offspring. Blavatsky claimed to have been party to revelations from Hidden Masters called the 'Great White Brotherhood' who, she later admitted in letters to her sister, were the Rosicrucian hierarchy who funded her. It is clear her work is influenced, in the work of Masonic demagogue General Albert Pike - the American South's Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, Civil War criminal, and leading member of the Ku Klux Klan - who revealed Rosicrucian/Masonic doctrine and its Aryan heritage in his unpublished pamphlet that was distributed to the Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret (32nd degree) Scottish Rite initiates.

If I care about anything its about people who condemn things they know nothing of, or only know through the scewed words of enemies of those systems. I guess the modus operandi of the conpsiracy theorist is if you throw enough shit hopefully some will stick, the same methods the church used to smear any rivals.

marpat
19-09-2009, 10:28 PM
Albert Pike is regarded as bringing order out of chaos by rewriting the ancient rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, formerly devised by groups in France - including the Council of the Emperors of the East and West (now known as the European Council of Princes) and the Royal Stewart's Chapter of Clermont, based at the College of the Jesuits, Paris in 1761. Pike 'modernized' these rituals and explained their Aryan source and meaning in Morals & Dogma and other works.

Blavatsky's breakthrough book The Secret Doctrine (1888) was an attempt to popularize the racist concepts of Rosicrucian belief at a time when America was recovering from the Civil War, and the abolition of Slavery was forcing a redefinition of the West's perception of Race.

Just notice the perfect timing, as in the French Masonic Revolution and the rise of Napoleon.

See the thread HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80669) .

Anti-masons talk as if Pike is the only mason who ever lived or wrote a book. I am not a mason but if I were going to get a real idea of a subject I would read more than one author. I know full well why people constantly use Pike though, its because Icke mentions it in his books and his sheep just follow his words rather than looking into the subject on a broader scale. It would be like constantly posting the words on an ancient, long dead pope in order to prove a point when so many others have lived since then and said other things.

bluehorseman
20-09-2009, 02:21 AM
He quotes fake documents (like the non-existent "letter" from Pike to Mazzini), and can't answer simple questions (like "Where did Levi say anything about spawning demons"?).

Not very informative, and even less referenced.

Hello thelonius - are all of them fake? Does he not answer many of the questions? and anyway many on here (Free masons included) claim to answer all questions and don't. I think that he has touched on some sensitive areas of the fraternal brotherhoods that people don't want exposed - imo.

raphael
20-09-2009, 02:23 AM
But if you cant get simple things right then how can anybody trust anything you post? the error I highlighted was very simple yet you screwed up.

Its one thing posting pics but its is pointless if you dont know anything about what they show.

really why don't you enlighten everybody then what my error was?
instead of just implying?

you sound even more arrogant than me.

namaste

raphael
20-09-2009, 02:33 AM
"Most people are familiar with the twelve constellations assigned to the zodiac. But the sun actually travels through thirteen each year.

13 or 12?

More evidence of how the big FIB and phi penetrate our musical universe.
Music of the Spheres?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Tad4UOfdqXs/R7vwuk0pjYI/AAAAAAAAAeI/uOKyYUa-2sU/s400/piano_keyboard-note_names-large.jpg
8 keys are white, and 5 keys are black.

13 or 12?

There are 13 notes in the span of any note through its octave.
A scale is comprised of 8 notes, of which the
5th and 3rd notes create the basic foundation of all chords, and are based on whole tone which is
2 steps from the root tone, that is the
1st note of the scale.

13, 8, 5, 3, 2, 1, ... source
http://goldennumber.net/music.htm

what does phi have to do with anything...?
ask a Freemason.

ask him/her if it is in some way connected to Precession of the Equinoxes.
ask him/her if it is in some way connected to the SWASTIKA.

namaste

lycan
20-09-2009, 08:29 AM
KEEP ON TOPIC.

This is a thread about The Lost Symbol. Not any/every thing you can find about freemasonry.:confused:

marpat
20-09-2009, 10:42 AM
really why don't you enlighten everybody then what my error was?
instead of just implying?

you sound even more arrogant than me.

namaste

Actually I was referring to somebody else and they were very wrong

marpat
20-09-2009, 10:48 AM
Hello thelonius - are all of them fake? Does he not answer many of the questions? and anyway many on here (Free masons included) claim to answer all questions and don't. I think that he has touched on some sensitive areas of the fraternal brotherhoods that people don't want exposed - imo.

Well I think that is a load of crap for a start. 20 years ago there was a big uproar because it appeared that many top jobs were given to freemasons and there was the suspicion that it was all done through the back door, and this was all in the public domain. Even now people with no interest in conspiracy theories will happily accept that such tings are probably so Dan Browns books are hardly exposing anything. The only people who believe so are those who fantasise about the freemasons being brought down, which is not going to happen. Did the Da Vinci code bring the church down? no it did not!! people who are part of these societies/ religions are not going to change their lives because of something that even the author said is a fiction and those who read the books and watch the films are not going to suddenly start trying to expose people. The only people interested in such things are those who hate secret societies because they cant stand not knowing other people business and what they get up to. It is purely an invasion of privacy issue in most cases yet the same people who want the masons to be made completely open are those who want their private lives kept behnd closed doors. They cant have their cake and eat it but they want to.

bluehorseman
20-09-2009, 12:10 PM
^^Hi marpat - you are having a go at me out of context here, I was refering to Thelonius' opinion of nihils posts.
However thats cool because you bring up an opinion that has much merit, and in some regard I agree with you. I think that what has happened in general society is a sort of prejudice against freemasons that is often unwarranted because as I have said many times all the Freemasons I know personally are great guys. I actually think that Dan Browns new book will boost the masonic numbers as any publicity is good publicity. I hope that the book will encourage freemasons to look inward at themselves to find their true freemasonry and root out the bad elements in it that are causing so much bother for their lodges.

nihil
20-09-2009, 12:35 PM
20 years ago there was a big uproar because it appeared that many top jobs were given to freemasons
and there was the suspicion that it was all done through the back door...

Oh really?? :eek: Conspiracy Theorists (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82570). ...about. real (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82731) . practices (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61403).

marpat
20-09-2009, 01:19 PM
Oh really?? :eek: Conspiracy Theorists (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82570) . ...about. real (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82731) .practices .

Yes really. Do you ever watch 'The Thin Blue Line'? they even include comedy piss takes of it where a copper tries to join the masons to get up the promotion ladder.

Go and ask people if they think being a freemason helps you get advantages and see how many of them say yes, even though those people may have no interest in the subject whatsoever.

nihil
20-09-2009, 01:36 PM
Hi guyz. Secrecy is something that just doesn't fit with politics. At the birth of democracies there was the Agorà (Greek word for public square) as the place for discussing problems about the public life of a city. Sadly, that time has gone so far. We're living a Cryptocracy right now: big questions had been answered long time before they become public - in secret places and lodges. The neophyte just seems to be enthusiast about the big brotherhood that makes world go round, while the unintiated simply sees a Videocracy that sets what the majority of the people has to think about. There's an agenda set for you to think about the war on terror, the economical crisis and the swine flu. It is a form of Psycracy that flushes rubbish information directly into your own mind, thanks to Hollywood, cable TV talking heads and the directions of media-mongers as Rupert - hardtech - Murdock. But there's still some freedom to the mob for sure and it is to search info from alternative sources.

Want to get enlightenment? Just step into a Library. So we got some so-called secret societies and private think-tank that seem to act as supervisors of our society. Now, do you know when was founded the pentagon? It was founded exactly 60 years before 9/11. Coincidence?
Anyone can find informations about the military training that occurred at NORAD that same day. Do you find a coincidence that the same kind of trainings happened in London on 7/7 bombings? I repeat - in those days some gov. institutions were faking a terrorist attack - that attacks sadly revealed true. Do you know terms as agent provocateur?

All those terrorist actions are part of a bigger plan and I find that authors as Lyndon LaRouche and Richard Hoagland are well into an honest way of exposing what's going on here.

raphael
20-09-2009, 02:09 PM
KEEP ON TOPIC.

This is a thread about The Lost Symbol. Not any/every thing you can find about freemasonry.:confused:

you don't like commercial breaks pushing a new product for consumption?

;)

Fact is dude, this thread you claim is about the Lost Symbol?
What does it look like exactly?

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2659/s164r.gif

5 pointed star perhaps as some suggest, inscribed within a circle?
The two examples given on a previous page that are making references to Mercury (Hermes / Thoth) and Venus?

http://goldennumber.net/solarsys.htm
Go to this site and you will see why phi is important when discussing the pentagram, Venus and Mercury and pi.

The big FIB being hidden from view, its importance to our 'reality' is connected to phi and the FIBonacci code.

You fellas discussing 'secret societies' are stuck in the MIDDLE ages...like those Christians who were not permitted to star gaze.
You have to go back further than the past 2000 years.

history did NOT begin with the contrived HIS-story (supported by Egyptian/Christian/Freemason mysteries) that obviously ignores the 20,000+ years of HER-story that preceded it.

Now, do you know when was founded the pentagon? It was founded exactly 60 years before 9/11.

Pentagon = pentagram = GOLDEN mean = GOLDEN ratio = GOLDEN spiral = FIBONACCI = phi

So tell me...what is the source of the FIBONACCI code eh?
Forget when the Pentagon was founded...tell me about the history and source of the FIBONACCI.

Go ahead make my day.
Another mystery that challenges the moderns.
Nobody knows where it came from 'exactly'.
Many theories, but NO conclusive evidence.
And it reappears in the 12th century, when Fibonacci resurrects it within the western minds, his insight arriving via Persia of course?

Was Euclid perhaps the source?
Where did Euclid, the know-it-all get his info?
Did you know that Euclid's book called Elements was the #1 ALL-time best seller until the Bible assumed that position sometime in the 18th-19th century?

namaste

raphael
20-09-2009, 02:15 PM
Hi guyz. Secrecy is something that just doesn't fit with politics. At the birth of democracies there was the Agorà (Greek word for public square) as the place for discussing problems about the public life of a city. Sadly, that time has gone so far. We're living a Cryptocracy right now: big questions had been answered long time before they become public - in secret places and lodges.

you can back much much much further to prove your point.
go back to the time when writing did not exist.

go back to when the ORAL traditions when the stories/folklore/song and dance were a way of transmitting complex astronomical and astrological information that had been accumulated.

I am not making this up.
Same year we sent somebody to the MOON, 1969, a book was released call Hamlet's Mill.
It discussed all of the above, that I claim.
The book makes it clear, in my mind, there was never any reason to go to the MOON to understand the mysteries that had been encoded/embedded in the tales we told each other and our children.
RESPECT your elders, homeschooling, meant something.

The ancients never went to the moon.
Sir Isaac Newton the alchemist never went to the moon, though he helped get us there.....
...think about it. ;)

namaste

marpat
20-09-2009, 02:34 PM
Hi guyz. Secrecy is something that just doesn't fit with politics. At the birth of democracies there was the Agorà (Greek word for public square) as the place for discussing problems about the public life of a city. Sadly, that time has gone so far. We're living a Cryptocracy right now: big questions had been answered long time before they become public - in secret places and lodges. The neophyte just seems to be enthusiast about the big brotherhood that makes world go round, while the unintiated simply sees a Videocracy that sets what the majority of the people has to think about. There's an agenda set for you to think about the war on terror, the economical crisis and the swine flu. It is a form of Psycracy that flushes rubbish information directly into your own mind, thanks to Hollywood, cable TV talking heads and the directions of media-mongers as Rupert - hardtech - Murdock. But there's still some freedom to the mob for sure and it is to search info from alternative sources.

Want to get enlightenment? Just step into a Library. So we got some so-called secret societies and private think-tank that seem to act as supervisors of our society. Now, do you know when was founded the pentagon? It was founded exactly 60 years before 9/11. Coincidence?
Anyone can find informations about the military training that occurred at NORAD that same day. Do you find a coincidence that the same kind of trainings happened in London on 7/7 bombings? I repeat - in those days some gov. institutions were faking a terrorist attack - that attacks sadly revealed true. Do you know terms as agent provocateur?

All those terrorist actions are part of a bigger plan and I find that authors as Lyndon LaRouche and Richard Hoagland are well into an honest way of exposing what's going on here.

You go on about secret stuff but would you like every aspect of your personal life, what you do, what groups you join to be made available for public scrutiny? people have a right to privacy, or secrecy as you put it. Anti-masons want the freemasons to be completely transparent but dont want such things for everybody, which smacks of double standards to me.

Again I say to you that Dan Browns book will not be the end of freemasonry.

raphael
20-09-2009, 02:44 PM
Again I say to you that Dan Browns book will not be the end of freemasonry.

I agree.

My book will be.
It shows how the SWASTIKA is in fact the LOST Symbol of Freemasonry.

http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/about/
I have hundreds of blogs written showing connections between the SWASTIKA, SOUND, LIGHT, HEAT and the Fibonacci Code = phi.

And may I point out that SOUND, HEAT and LIGHT is what the modern magicians use to interpret the info they receive from COBE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Background_Explorer

I do not expect the wankers on this site to follow the simple premise that a symbol that has been with us for 10,000+ years still has influence over our minds and hearts.
Duh didn't Hitler prove it?

But others who are prepared to see the TRUTH will see the simplicity that is veiled by a contrived complexity.
The rest of EWE will continue to bleat nonsense for eternity.
Keep grazing on the story that is being scripted for you, using the scriptures.

namaste

keystone
20-09-2009, 03:02 PM
I agree.Good.

My book will be.Why - Lost Symbol or not its an ancient symbol ill deserving of the hysteria that has been attached to it since the 1940s.

It shows how the SWASTIKA is in fact the LOST Symbol of Freemasonry.Oh I thought that was the Royal Secret? Did you not say that? Not got a copy in my hands yet but looking forward to it. Not plagiarising that one are you? :D

I have hundreds of blogs written showing connections between the SWASTIKA, SOUND, LIGHT, HEAT and the Fibonacci Code = phi.

And may I point out that SOUND, HEAT and LIGHT is what the modern magicians use to interpret the info they receive from COBE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Background_ExplorerWorking my way through your blogs atm.

I do not expect the wankers on this site to follow the simple premise that a symbol that has been with us for 10,000+ years still has influence over our minds and hearts.Why ever not?

Duh didn't Hitler prove it?No Hitlers use of it leads to hysterical nonsense about it - oh but that may be what you mean. :D

Cheers

nihil
20-09-2009, 03:32 PM
I admit that the title of the thread could be: Is masonry doomed? But I think that freemasonry will be framed by all this hype about his secret practices. Danny 'Tavistock' Brown keeps on exposing some less-known facts about Catholic Church and US Freemasonry. Astronomy charts and Rome or Washington, DC just didn't fit in the recent past. But now - after some holy wood brainwash - with the hints of movies as Star Wars or Space Odyssey and with great quantities of blood filmed in many B-Movies, the public is prone to consider other points of view on religion - thanks to the Videocracy.

33 degree mason tatoos
First Civilizations of the Ancient Man: Canaan (Palestine-Israel-Lebanon)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9305/sumerel.jpg

Heil !! Ich bin El. Bow down before your master or... Geh' Los !!

scottish rite nasa
In Canaan the main cities were Jericho, Ugarit, Tyre, Sidon, Ebla, Biblos, Lachish, Hazor, Megiddo, Jerusalem and later, the originally Phoenician settlement of Carthage. Like all the other ancient societies, the Canaanite's had many gods, but their main gods were "El" and "Baal", with El being the supreme god. Some modern names evoke the name of El: Michael - he who is like God, Daniel - God is my judge, Gabriel - strong man of God, Gamaliel - benefit of God, Hazael - one that sees God, Emmanuel - God is with us, Ishmael - God will hear, Israel - God contented.

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5953/flagms.jpg

Storm Bird of Lagash


- Deus meumque jus: The Nazi Motto, The Masons and... Bibleman (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78374) .

There are two great heroes of Babylonian fame who link with Perseus and Hercules, Sigurd and Siegfried, Dietrich and Finn-mac-Coul. These are Etana and Gilgamesh, two legendary kings who resemble Tammuz the Patriarch referred to by Berosus, a form of Tammuz the Sleeper of the Sumerian psalms. One journeys to the Nether World to obtain the Plant of Birth and the other to obtain the Plant of Life. The floating legends with which they were associated were utilized and developed by the priests, when engaged in the process of systematizing and symbolizing religious beliefs, with purpose to unfold the secrets of creation and the Otherworld.

- Brand's Popular Antiquities, 1899, vol. ii, Page 66

The eagle figures in various mythologies, and appears to have been at one time worshipped as the god or goddess of fertility, and storm and lightning, as the bringer of children, and the deity who carried souls to Hades. It was also the symbol of royalty, because the earthly ruler represented the controlling deity. Nin-Girsu, the god of Lagash, who was identified with Tammuz, was depicted as a lion-headed eagle. Zeus, the Greek sky and air god, was attended by an eagle, and may, at one time, have been simply an eagle. In Egypt the place of the eagle is taken by Nekhebit, the vulture goddess whom the Greeks identified with "Eileithyia, the goddess of birth; she was usually represented as a vulture hovering over the king".

- Wiedemann, Religion of the Ancient Egyptians - page 14

It is of interest, therefore, to find the Etana eagle figuring as a symbol of royalty at Rome. The deified Roman Emperor's waxen image was burned on a pyre after his death, and an eagle was let loose from the great pile to carry his soul to heaven. 2 This custom was probably a relic of seasonal fire worship, which may have been introduced into Northern and Western Syria and Asia Minor by the mysterious Mitanni rulers, if it was not an archaic Babylonian custom 3 associated with fire-and-water magical ceremonies, represented in the British Isles by May-Day and Midsummer fire-and-water festivals. Sandan, the mythical founder of Tarsus, was honoured each year at that city by burning a great bonfire, and he was identified with Hercules. Probably he was a form of Moloch and Melkarth.

- Raoul Rochette, Mémoires de l’Académie des Inscriptions, Page. 178

Melkarth or Melqart, properly Phoenician Milk-Qart 'King of the City', less accurately Melkart, Melkarth or Melgart, Akkadian Milqartu, was a tutelary god of the Phoenicians.

According to the commentators of the Koran, Nimrod, the Babylonian king, who cast victims in his annual bon-fires at Cuthah, died on the eighth day of the Tammuz month, which, according to the Syrian calendar, fell on 13th July.

- G. Sale, Koran, Page 246.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8569/molechflame.jpg

Molech worship in Near-Orient Antiquity Times

nihil
20-09-2009, 04:29 PM
Melkarth

In Islamic belief this deity is called Malec or Malik, and considered to be the principle angel in charge in Djahannam, while the Jews say Malakh ha-Mavet is the Angel of Death, that 'malak' means angel or messenger, and that 'melek' means "king" - See: The New Jewish Encyclopedia

raphael
20-09-2009, 04:56 PM
No Hitlers use of it leads to hysterical nonsense about it - oh but that may be what you mean. :D

Cheers

yes...

without a doubt the swastika is attached to our heart strings...and THEY know it.

why else has it endured for 10,000+ years and managed to stay front and center?

what is the source of this symbol...that is a clue to how it ended up in Hitler's hands.

I trace it back to the Vatican.

Was Hitler a NAZI scumbag?

OR

Was Hitler raised a roman catholic christian who became also a NAZI scumbag leading a nation of rabid goose-stepping christians to fulfill their biblical purpose?

Funny how the Judeao/christian WESTERN hysterical media NEVER describe him as such?

namaste

nihil
20-09-2009, 06:38 PM
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/263/apothcenter.jpg

Apotheosis of Washington, Constantino Brumidi, 1865

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3649/fascesright500.jpg

Apotheosis of Washington, John James Barralet, 1800

keystone
20-09-2009, 06:50 PM
yes...

without a doubt the swastika is attached to our heart strings...and THEY know it.

why else has it endured for 10,000+ years and managed to stay front and center?

what is the source of this symbol...that is a clue to how it ended up in Hitler's hands.

I trace it back to the Vatican.

Was Hitler a NAZI scumbag?

OR

Was Hitler raised a roman catholic christian who became also a NAZI scumbag leading a nation of rabid goose-stepping christians to fulfill their biblical purpose?

Funny how the Judeao/christian WESTERN hysterical media NEVER describe him as such?

namaste

Well Nazi is a shortform of the German for National Socialist rather than having religious overtones so lets suggest your second alternative.

Is it a coincidence that the word Aryan is derived from Sanskrit like Swastika?

Funny ha ha or funny peculiar.


Cheers

nihil
20-09-2009, 07:06 PM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3761/pic79700.jpg

Seal of Black Hand (Serbian: Црна рука / Crna Ruka), officially Unification or Death.

Black Hand - Secret Serbian society formed in 1911 primarily by army officers, which used terrorist methods to promote the liberation of Serbs outside Serbia from Habsburg or Ottoman rule. It gained its greatest notoriety with the assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand in June, 28 1914. After a trial in 1917, three of its leaders were executed.

The assassination in Sarajevo of Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria is considered to have been the main catalyst to the start of World War I.

secret plots in history
The Constitution of the Unification or Death Society

IV. The Seal and the Oath of Allegiance

Article 34. The Organisation's official seal is thus composed: In the
centre of the seal there is a powerful arm holding in its hand an
unfurled flag on which - as a coat of arms - there is a skull with
crossed bones; by the side of the flag, a knife, a bomb and a phial of
poison. Around, in a circle, there is the following inscription, reading
from left to right: "Unification or Death", and in the base: "The
Supreme Central Directorate".

Article 35. On entering into the organisation the joining member must
pronounce the following oath of allegiance:

"I (the Christian name and surname of the joining member), by entering
into the organisation "Unification or Death", do hereby swear by the Sun
which shineth upon me, by the Earth which feedeth me, by God, by the
blood of my forefathers, by my honour and by my life, that from this
moment onward and until my death, I shall faithfully serve the task of
this organisation and that I shall at all times be prepared to bear for
it any sacrifice. I further swear by God, by my honour and by my life,
that I shall unconditionally carry into effect all its orders and
commands. I further swear by my God, by my honour and by my life, that I
shall keep within myself all the secrets of this organisation and carry
them with me into my grave. May God and my comrades in this organisation
be my judges if at any time I should wittingly fail or break this oath!"

V. Supplementary Orders

Article 36. The present Constitution shall come into force immediately.
Article 37. The present Constitution must not be altered.

Done at Belgrade this 9th day of May, 1911 A.D.


- Joachim Remak, Origins of World War I: 1871-1914

- Henri Pozzi, Black Hand Over Europe, 1935

kadosh
20-09-2009, 07:23 PM
http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/symbolism/swastika/swastika.jpg
The swastika - http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/symbolism/swastika/index.html - "The word swastika is derived from the Sanskrit, svastikah, which means 'being fortunate': SVASTI-, can be divided into two parts: SU- 'good; well', and -ASTI- 'is'; -ASTIKAH means 'being'. While it has also been said that it is derived from Sanskrit words meaning "health mark" and that the reverse swastika represents darkness, misfortune, and suffering, this etymology is unsupported. The meaning, if any, of the direction of the swastika arms is ambiguous. .... "

nihil
20-09-2009, 08:19 PM
The Illuminati can be traced back to 1776. On Walpurgis Nacht (night) of 1776, five men met in Ingolstadt, Neues Schloss, in Bavaria. The following day, one of these five men proclaimed the foundation of the Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria, using the name 'Adam Weishaupt', which means 'the first man to know the Superiors'. The term Illuminati was largely used by outsiders, members seemed to have referred to themselves as Perfectibilists, i.e., those who have been made (or seek to become) “perfect” in the ancient sense of complete or, in a more modern sense, “initiated” into the fullness of the mysteries.

Munich has a famous university, founded 1472 at Ingolstadt in Upper Bavaria. The principal buildings are the old palace of the dukes of Bavaria-Ingolstadt, now used as an arsenal; the new palace on the Danube; the remains of the earliest Jesuits' college in Germany, founded in 1555; the former university buildings, the theatre, the large Gothic Frauenkirche, founded in 1425, with two massive towers. Ingolstadt is mentioned in the novel Frankenstein or, The Modern Prometheus, written by the British author Mary Shelley: it is the birthplace of the monster as created by the scientist Victor Frankenstein.

raphael
20-09-2009, 09:41 PM
Well Nazi is a shortform of the German for National Socialist rather than having religious overtones so lets suggest your second alternative.

Is it a coincidence that the word Aryan is derived from Sanskrit like Swastika?

Funny ha ha or funny peculiar.


Cheers

trace the source of the word NAZI please?

NAZI is taken from AshkeNAZI

which is Hebrew for GERMAN
And the Ashkenazi were the Old testament Jews who were targeted primarily by the NAZI party composed of a base of mostly New Testament Christians?
Wow what sublime poetry.

Just because NAZI BECAME an acronym for the party, does not mean it is the source fella.
Anything else you need corrected?
Give it up Keystone...I have done my homeverk comrade.

Maybe you should relax and hold off on your comments, till you read the best FREEMASON book out there available to the public?

The Royal Secret ... order it today.

namaste

marpat
20-09-2009, 10:00 PM
http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/symbolism/swastika/swastika.jpg
The swastika - http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/symbolism/swastika/index.html - "The word swastika is derived from the Sanskrit, svastikah, which means 'being fortunate': SVASTI-, can be divided into two parts: SU- 'good; well', and -ASTI- 'is'; -ASTIKAH means 'being'. While it has also been said that it is derived from Sanskrit words meaning "health mark" and that the reverse swastika represents darkness, misfortune, and suffering, this etymology is unsupported. The meaning, if any, of the direction of the swastika arms is ambiguous. .... "

It is also a hebrew symbol that symbolises the first swirlings, the motion of the universe coming into being. In a physical sense it could be an early concept of the galaxy.

nihil
20-09-2009, 10:04 PM
" The city of Washington DC was built under the guidance of the Columbian faction of Weishaupt's Illuminati. It was to become the centre of governorship for the Order of the New World and became known among the adepts as `the New Egypt'. The Rothschilds, Hapsburgs, Hanovers and others who made up the ranks of the `Illuminated Ones' already controlled Europe, having subverted almost all the monarchies of that continent through the introduction of paper debt and fractional reserve banking. Thus the power brokers were able to move in and seize control of the financial and economic apparatus of the target nations in question.

Upon seceding from the British empire through force of arms, the Founding Fathers were nevertheless themselves not immune to the encroaching and omnipresent influence of the European banking cartels upon their freshly won soil. The war of 1812, financed almost completely by the Rothschilds, was a desperate attempt to bring the disobedient, colonial `red-headed stepchild' to heel. Behind the scenes, plans had been laid for a new capital to be constructed based on the ancient esoteric knowledge and magic of Old Egypt. Weishaupt's Illuminati had taken many of its guiding principles from the top levels of freemasonry and had incorporated them into its charter.

Thus a site had to be found in the New World which faithfully reflected that of the worship home of the ancient demonic trinity, Osiris, Isis and Horus of Egypt. A fever-ridden swamp along the banks of the Potomac suited their purposes admirably; its river course and tributaries closely resembled that of the Nile and its course southward into the African interior. The land chosen by this river was parcelled into lots and numbered, the city plans having been drawn up by French masonic designer L'Enfant years before. The positioning of the US town of Alexandria faithfully mirrors its counterpart in Egypt. Later, other towns and monuments celebrating the pervading demons of Egypt would be constructed such as the pyramid in Memphis, and the Luxor hotel in Las Vegas.

Today the city of Washington, District of Columbia, is a city-temple meticulously constructed according to the religious rites of freemasonry. Incorporated into its street design can be seen the Sphinx, the thirteen tiered pyramid with the All Seeing Eye of Horus staring down an avenue into the White House. The US Capitol, built upon Lot 666, is shaped into the Goat of Baphomet and sits atop a truncated pyramid. The Washington Monument symbolises the venerated male organ of Osiris. According to legend, the ancient antichrist emperor, Nimrod (later deified as Osiris), was hunted down shortly after the Flood by one of Noah's sons, Shem, and brought to trial for crimes and abominations committed against YAHWEH. Nimrod was tried by an assize of 49 judges in Egypt and sentenced to death by dismemberment, his 13 body parts carried into the various corners of the known world and displayed as an example to the world of the consequences of blasphemy and apostasy against the Invisible Mighty One of Israel. Nimrod's wife, the beautiful witch Semiramis, resolved to seek out the pieces of her husband's body and found all but the penis, which later became a symbol of veneration and worship by the pagans as the bringer of life and the ultimate generative principle. Thus phallic worship became a staple of ancient Egyptian religious culture, Nimrod became deified as Osiris (Ammon-Ra), his wife Semiramis as Isis, the Earth mother goddess. The Jewish leader, Shem, became the wicked god, Seth, forever plaguing the peoples of the Earth with restrictive covenants and binding moralities (Levitican Law).

The Washington Monument is 555 feet in visible height (6,660 inches). However tourist guides to the obelisk tell us that 20% of its overall height forms part of the foundations in order to stabilise the monument. Thus the true height of the obelisk is 666 feet, accurately reflecting the accursed number of the forthcoming antichrist leader of the New World Order, Lucifer.

The Washington Beltway is shaped like the skull of Satan with the little horn of the antichrist mentioned in the book of Daniel. The mouth of the skull is formed by Gallows Road, the nasal cavity by Route 66 and the eye to the skull is the CIA headquarters at Langley, Virginia. The total circumference of the Beltway (Route 495 (4+9+5=18=6x6x6)) is 66.6 miles precisely.

Arlington cemetery contains pathways that seem to be randomly shaped. However if one maps these and shades them in, the face of Isis is clearly seen, and if the pattern is reversed, the child (french: L'Enfant) of Satan (the AntiChrist) becomes visible. Bordering this area is the military headquarters of the New World Order, the Pentagon.

The Watergate center is shaped as a reversed `JC' (Jesus Christ). In satanic circles, the reversal of holiness is unholiness. A little to the east, decorating the frieze of the Department of Agriculture building is a row of stone swastikas which stare directly across the avenue at the Jewish Holocaust Memorial. Rock Creek Park is in the shape of a goat - plainly so. Other research documents display an intricacy to the artwork contained in the streets that map out mythological scenes from ancient Egypt and the pantheon of the pagan gods. This is clearly not the capital city of the God referred to in the Founding Documents, but of another, yet to make his final, if futile attempt, to subvert the eternal rule of Jesus Christ, our Savior. The name of this `god' is Lucifer, the Shining One, represented by the sun, so faithfully depicted on the Shell Oil logo, 76 gasoline, United Artists, the Japanese national flag and countless other seemingly innocuous decorations. The ARCO gasoline symbol is a vertical view of the truncated pyramid, as is the Maltese Cross employed by Adolf Hitler, the Royal Family of England and many others. One must remember that much thought goes into the construction of corporate, national and religious symbolism. It is certainly not arrived at by chance.

The city of Washington is of course named after the first president of the United States, George Washington. Much is made of George Washington's masonic connections, yet very little is discussed about his final renouncing of the evils of freemasonry and his subsequent baptism by a primitive baptist preacher into the grace and forgiveness of Jesus Christ. The disavowal of freemasonry by this great leader and patriarch no doubt led to his ultimate demise at the hands of his physicians who bled him to death in 1797.

Today Washington DC is a city built in the shape of a 10-mile square. The square is oriented like a diamond, split into the upper and lower triangles. This is the same shape as the so-named "Star of David" which also symbolises the two-god theology of paganism: the good god, Lucifer, the sun, the bringer of life and the bad god, Seth, YAHWEH, the bringer of rules and restrictions preventing the citizen from "doing whatever you want". Satan's philosophy is the philosophy of liberalism, of "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law" (Aleister Crowley). Paganism seeks to place Satan on the same level as YAHWEH (Jesus Christ). Yet Satan is a created being, had a Creator and therefore cannot be anything other than who the Bible portrays him to be: an angel, ultimately mortal and already judged and damned by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. It is not hard to see the footprints of luciferian philosophy down through the epochs of history and their identical, inevitable and self-destructive consequences. Nothing is going to change the results of this behavior in the future.

Washington DC today is the murder capital of the world. Coincidence? Perhaps not. Perhaps what you are witnessing is the final denouement of the plan of YAHWEH, as depicted in the pages of Holy Scripture. God is determining at this time who will ultimately follow His ways and who will swear allegiance to the emerging human system of the AntiChrist. He makes this determination based on how we live our lives, whether we are fit for the kingdom of heaven, or whether ultimately we will reject His Son by living a life of disobedience to Him. Thus the only question which remains in God's eyes is this: Where do you stand? "


- Freemasonry: Satan's Door to America? by J. Edward Decker

eternal_spirit
20-09-2009, 10:17 PM
trace the source of the word NAZI please?

NAZI is taken from AshkeNAZI

which is Hebrew for GERMAN
And the Ashkenazi were the Old testament Jews who were targeted primarily by the NAZI party composed of a base of mostly New Testament Christians?
Wow what sublime poetry.

Just because NAZI BECAME an acronym for the party, does not mean it is the source fella.
Anything else you need corrected?
Give it up Keystone...I have done my homeverk comrade.

Maybe you should relax and hold off on your comments, till you read the best FREEMASON book out there available to the public?

The Royal Secret ... order it today.

namaste
The word Nasi with an S maybe pronounced the same or not? But remember in Germany Nazi was an abbreviation of a political party "National Socialist" (not the same as Nasi imo)
I don't know the German words? for National Socialist.

Nasi in Judaism
"530 BCE - 70 CE), the nasi was the highest-ranking member and president of the Sanhedrin or Assembly, including when it sat as a criminal court. ..." of Talmudic laws.


"The office of Nasi was created in 191 BCE to act as the head of the Sanhedrin. Before 191 BCE the High Priest acted as the ex officio head of the Sanhedrin. ..."

Under Jewish law (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Halakha)Halakha

Halakha ? also Hebrew transliteration Halocho and Halacha ? is the collective body of Judaism religious law, including biblical law and later talmudic and rabbinic law, as well as customs and traditions....


Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz or Adin Even Yisrael is most commonly known for his popular commentary and translation of both Talmuds into Hebrew language, French language, Russian language and Spanish language....
has taken the title nasi in an attempt to re-establish the Sanhedrin in its judicial capacity as the Supreme Court (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Supreme_court)Supreme court

A supreme court, also called a court of last resort or high court, is in some jurisdictions the highest court within that jurisdiction's court system, whose rulings are not subject to further review by another court....
of Judaism (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Judaism)Judaism

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.j...=N&search=Nasi (http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=77&letter=N&search=Nasi)

eternal_spirit
20-09-2009, 10:25 PM
Sons of the Covenant.” No one who is not a Jew may enter the B’nai B’rith


B'nai B'rith means "Sons of the Covenant" or "the Cut" (Circumcision Covenant)

http://www.centralpark.com/pages/attractions/obelisk.jpg

B'nai B'rith is Hebrew for Sons of the Covenant, and the covenant that God made with Abraham, the first Jew, and afterward renewed with Moses, is the central and deathless theme and constitution of Judaism. --B'NAI B'RITH: The Story of a Covenant, by Edward E. Grusd, Editor of National Jewish Monthly, Appleton-Century/Affiliate of Meredith Press, 1966, New York, p. 19.
This Covenant is repeated several times in the Bible, notably in Deuteronomy 5: 1-3: "And Moses called unto all Israel, and said unto them . . . The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day." And again, in Isaiah 59:21: "As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My Spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not de-part out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and forever." --B'NAI B'RITH: The Story of a Covenant, by Edward E. Grusd, Editor of National Jewish Monthly, Appleton-Century/Affiliate of Meredith Press, 1966, New York, p. 19.
Menorah Chosen as the B'nai B'rith Symbol because it Stood for 'Light" (also, the symbol of Lucifer or Satan, because Lucens stands for "Light" and Ferens for "Fallen"-e.g., Satan, "The Fallen Light" or "He Who Fell from Heaven Via His Rebellion Against God" which are Masonic Concepts.

And at that second meeting [1843 B'nai B'rith beginning meetings], or soon after, the founders adopted the menorah-the seven-branched cande-labrum-as B'nai B'rith's symbol, not only because the original menorah stood in the ancient Temple in Jeru-salem, but because it is the symbol of light. --B'NAI B'RITH: The Story of a Covenant, by Edward E. Grusd, Editor of National Jewish Monthly, Appleton-Century/Affiliate of Meredith Press, 1966, New York, p. 19.
How B'nai B'rith Lodge Officers Titles & Degrees Mimick the Hocus Pocus of the Names of Masonic Lodge Officers, Illuminati, and the Other Grand Conspiracies for Internationalism and One World Orders…
In line with their desire to have a Hebrew name for the group, they also chose Hebrew titles for their officers. The president was called the Grand Nasi Abh; the vice president, Grand Aleph; the secretary, Grand Sopher, etc. The ritual was similarly florid. It consisted of six degrees which imparted the aims and purposes of the Order, each illustrated by examples from Jewish history, thus imparting knowledge sadly lacking in most of the new members. --B'NAI B'RITH: The Story of a Covenant, by Edward E. Grusd, Editor of National Jewish Monthly, Appleton-Century/Affiliate of Meredith Press, 1966, New York, p. 21
B'Nai B'rith's "Congregation of Grand Lodges" Created as the Controlling Organization (1843) The Constitution [of B'nai B'rith] created a supreme ruling body, called the Constitution Grand Lodge (CGL), which alone had the authority to issue and revoke charters for local lodges, frame laws binding upon all, confer degrees, and act as a final court in all disputes. It was to consist of the twelve founders plus the past presidents of all local lodges. In other words, the pioneers set up a ruling body the majority of which was to consist of past presidents of lodges that did not yet exist! --B'NAI B'RITH: The Story of a Covenant, by Edward E. Grusd, Editor of National Jewish Monthly, Appleton-Century/Affiliate of Meredith Press, 1966, New York, p. 20-21.


"B’nai B’rith, the secret Jewish Fraternity, began in 1843 under the name of “ Sons of the Covenant.” No one who is not a Jew may enter the B’nai B’rith

B'nai B'rith has about 500,000 members in 58 countries. The national office, located in Washington, D.C., publishes the International Jewish Monthly and other periodicals.

keystone
20-09-2009, 10:25 PM
trace the source of the word NAZI please?

NAZI is taken from AshkeNAZI

which is Hebrew for GERMAN
And the Ashkenazi were the Old testament Jews who were targeted primarily by the NAZI party composed of a base of mostly New Testament Christians?
Wow what sublime poetry.

Just because NAZI BECAME an acronym for the party, does not mean it is the source fella.No it isn't - you have made a bad connection it is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter-Partei.

The modern hebrew word Ashkenazi is derived from Genesis where it is written that one of Gomer's (Gimmiri) three sons is called Ashkenaz.

Anything else you need corrected?No not at the moment thank you if this "correction" is anything to go by. :D

Give it up Keystone...I have done my homeverk comrade.You are not the only vun who can do homework. :D

Maybe you should relax and hold off on your comments, till you read the best FREEMASON book out there available to the public?I'll comment as and when I feel like it thanks.

The Royal Secret ... order it today.Do you not read? Clicky (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1282745&postcount=1447).

And did you miss the Aryan connection I posted? Here's a hint - its tied up with the area which includes modern day Iran and the nomadic peoples inhabiting the region in ancient times. PS This area is from where Ashkenaz (Ashkuza or Ishkuza) (and Gimmiri for that matter) got into the OT as well.

Cheers

marpat
20-09-2009, 10:26 PM
The German workers party was actualy NSDAP, which was shortened to nazi to piss them off.

keystone
20-09-2009, 10:28 PM
I don't know the German words? for National Socialist.See my post 187 above - NAtionalsoZIalistische Deutsche Arbeiter-Partei.

Cheers

lisaw
20-09-2009, 10:51 PM
well i bought the book yesterday and am half way through already, it is a good read, as with all his books, and isn't that whats its ment to be about, and plus he is making a lot of money out of it.

raphael
20-09-2009, 11:10 PM
It is also a hebrew symbol that symbolises the first swirlings, the motion of the universe coming into being. In a physical sense it could be an early concept of the galaxy.

you might enjoy this.
my theory is that it was...a concept of the galaxy, of the Milky Way.

and the evidence is accumulating...
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/swastika-plate-5000-bc-is-a-model-of-the-milky-way/

if I was a Graham Hancock or a respected known author or researcher, this evidence would NOT be taken lightly.
IMHO

namaste

keystone
21-09-2009, 12:03 AM
you might enjoy this.
my theory is that it was...a concept of the galaxy, of the Milky Way.

and the evidence is accumulating...
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/swastika-plate-5000-bc-is-a-model-of-the-milky-way/

if I was a Graham Hancock or a respected known author or researcher, this evidence would NOT be taken lightly.
IMHO

namaste

Nice work in the blog but I would suggest it isn't a new theory. Its been around for a long time.

Cheers

nihil
21-09-2009, 12:38 AM
The Martian Legacy: Washington, District of Cydonia (http://www.bob-wonderland.supanet.com/conspiracy_7.htm) .

keystone
21-09-2009, 12:44 AM
The Martian Legacy: Washington, District of Cydonia (http://www.bob-wonderland.supanet.com/conspiracy_7.htm) .At a cursory glance this looks an interesting find. For study later in the week methinks.

Cheers

nihil
21-09-2009, 12:56 AM
Strictly related to the hyperdimensional physics theory, as exposed by Richard Hoagland.

nihil
21-09-2009, 03:14 AM
Robert Anton Wilson's lecture of conspiracy,the Masonic P-2 Lodge, banking and the Priory of Sion.



THEIR tube deleted link, so try THIS (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Robert+Anton+Wilson+Masonic+S ion&search_type=&aq=f) .

nihil
21-09-2009, 03:26 AM
eagle has landed
Dark Mission by Richard Hoagland

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9421/frontcovervj.jpg

Funny lecture about an Egypto-Masonic Association known as: NASA
space mission is nasa masonic

nihil
21-09-2009, 04:29 PM
The Nöosphere

The term Noosphere was coined by a russian scientist (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu8yYvrdKRIEA1PpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTBybnZlZnR lBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=123c0mfit/EXP=1253642264/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Vernadsky). I like to consider this term as the thoughts of Gaia. Pitifully it has been bastardized in modern times. It's original noun was that the collective intelligence of Mother Earth (all the bunch of ideas by me, the masons, the black people, the jews, the muslims etc.) could develop an autonomous system of concretions, or ideas, that will be fed by the thoughts of everyone of us (and every animal) so that this collective knowledge will grow similarly as the human society grows.

Why the term, as originally stated, is wickedly distorted in present days? Simple fact - as seen into the Dan Brown's book itself - if you throw-in a certain system of beliefs (Luciferianism? Isis-Osiris-Sai Babaism?) and you throw-out other systems (The Hippy Jew known as Christ?), you're just giving a huge shock to the collective tree of knowledge that grows onto the noosphere.

I know, my dear masonic puppets, a novel is a novel, who cares of Tavistock Agent's last blockbuster, this is NOT our plan... So give a look at common references in movies, just look at Fox News, just pile all this huge BS into a NWO Pyramidion...

Now got the idea?
noun meaning of noethics

'...as struck by a noetic lightning' - Terence Mc Kenna

the noosphere and how to hack collective thoughts

raphael
21-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Nice work in the blog but I would suggest it isn't a new theory. Its been around for a long time.

Cheers

really...?

Q/ a quick google search of the terms 'swastika milky way' yields what?
A/ 5 of the top 10 hits are my blog.

Q/ a quick google search of 'swastika DNA asymmetry' yields what?
A/ ALL 10 returns are mine. On the second page, 5 of 10. ;)

you OBVIOUSLY haven't a clue, YET, as to how far my theory penetrates Keystone...but I can see you have an open mind.

here is something you can digest along with my post connecting those plates from Samarra Iraq.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/greek-astrologers-and-nazis-had-king-solomon-in-a-knot/

The above post was and still is one of my favorite 'revelations'...something my intuition helped uncover/recover for me...
(though it could use an update)

I will be the first to admit, that I, that no human being, discovers anything NEW.
It is more of a recovery process...putting the pieces back together again.

And when the puzzle is completed...
Past, present and future shall appear unified.

namaste

nihil
21-09-2009, 06:19 PM
By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany. The Tavistock Clinic was set up in London in 1921 to study the breaking point of humans, at about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism.

Tavistock Clinic then evolved to the Institute of Human Relations, or simply:

TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE
30 Tabernacle Street, London EC2A 4DD

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, a novel, interdisciplinary, action orientated research organisation, was founded in London in 1946 with the aid of a grant from the Rockefeller Foundation. It was set up for the specific purpose of actively relating the psychological and social sciences to the needs and concerns of society. In sustaining this endeavour for more than fifty years, it has won international recognition.

The circumstances of World War Two brought together a group of psychiatrists and anthropologists. They became known as the Tavistock Group because the core members had been at the pre-war Tavistock Clinic. Though only some of them continued their involvement with the post-war Tavistock organisation, those who did built on the war-time achievements to introduce a number of far-reaching developments in several fields. This style of research related theory and practice in a new way.

http://www.tavinstitute.org

Tavistock Institute originated the mass civilian bombing raids carried out by Roosevelt and Churchill purely as a clinical experiment in mass terror, keeping records of the results as they watched the "guinea pigs" reacting under "controlled laboratory conditions". All Tavistock and American foundation techniques have a single goal---to break down the psychological strength of the individual and render him helpless to oppose the dictators of the World Order. Any technique which helps to break down the family unit, and family inculcated principles of religion, honor, patriotism and sexual behavior, is used by the Tavistock scientists as weapons of crowd control. The methods of Freudian psychotherapy induce permanent mental illness in those who undergo this treatment by destabilizing their character. The victim is then advised to "establish new rituals of personal interaction", that is, to indulge in brief sexual encounters which actually set the participants adrift with no stable personal relationships in their lives, destroying their ability to establish or maintain a family.

http://www.barefootsworld.net/tavistok.html

raphael
21-09-2009, 06:23 PM
At a cursory glance this looks an interesting find. For study later in the week methinks.

Cheers

http://www.bob-wonderland.supanet.com/SpinningBall.jpg

YES I agree.
The above image was taken from that site.
How do I connect DaPalma's Spinning Ball experiment to the Fibonacci Code 11258?

It is a beautiful synthesis.
IMHO

But before we go there...how do I connect MARS to the Tarot code found on CARD X?
go here:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/12/07/fibonacci-cahokia-monk-mounds-and-mars-artifacts/

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/cahokia400.gifhttp://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/ebgb_2006/Mars.gif

The Fibonacci/phi CODE 112358 is universal folks.
I would NOT be the first to connect the universe to the Fibonacci numbers, and infer a Music of the Spheres cosmology, would I?

Ah Kepler comes to mind when discussing the musical universe.
Tesla also believed the same thing.
And so did Pythagoras.

How do we connect the Fibonacci code to the 88 constellations.
Can we use the 88 keys of the piano?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Tad4UOfdqXs/R7vwuk0pjYI/AAAAAAAAAeI/uOKyYUa-2sU/s400/piano_keyboard-note_names-large.jpg

go here:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?mode=unread&p=58017

And Kepler noted the conjunctions between Saturn and Jupiter.
An approx. 800 year cycle.
Again, can I connect Kepler to the Fibonacci Code embedded on CARD X and the numbers 11, 2, 5, 8?

YES of course I can because the equation is simple.
Truth is truth is truth and there exists a golden string we can follow ... to become King Midas or a golden boy who spoke of golden rules to live by.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/keplerSaturnandJupiterconjunctions.jpg

I highlighted those numbers on this sketch drawn by Kepler.
re: 40 conjunctions occurring about every 20 years = 800 year cycle.

2, 5, 8, 11 are coincidentally the Fixed Signs in astrology.

1, 4, 7, 10 are the Cardinal Signs
3, 6, 9, 12 are the Mutable Signs

shall we continue after digestion?

namaste

nihil
21-09-2009, 06:33 PM
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Tavistock Institutions in The United States are:

Flow Laboratories, Merle Thomas Corporation, Walden Research, Planning Research Corporation, Atlantic Richfield Company, Brookings Institution, Esalen Institute, Hudson Institute, National Training Laboratories, Institute for Social Research, Institute For The Future, Institute For Policy Studies (IPS), Stanford Research Institute (SRI), Massachusetts Institute Of Technology (MIT), RAND Research And Development Corporation.

Some of RAND clients include American Telephone and Telegraph (AT&T), Chase Manhattan Bank, International Business Machines (IBM), Lockheed Martin, National Science Foundation, Republican Party, TRW, US Air Force, US Department of Health, US Department of Energy.

....as in a pyramidal system..Eye of Horus image NOT included.

.
http://hardtruth.navhost.com/tavistock.html

nihil
21-09-2009, 06:50 PM
Music of the Spheres vs Tavistock Institutions

God vs :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

raphael
21-09-2009, 07:12 PM
No it isn't - you have made a bad connection it is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter-Partei.



oh geesh which came first...?

you don't think these folks layer their symbolism?
don't assume they are as ignorant of you keystone.

take a look at washington?
duhhhhhhhhhhhhh
stop it stop it...

you still HAVE NOT told me what you know about the swastika that I can add to my database or about PRECESSION which the swastika/solomon's knot are amulets that was worn by the ancients?

did you know that the swastika was the MOST COMMON CROSS WORN BY folks in the Mediterranean when jesus was walking on water?
I suspect not, because you keep proving yourself ignornant.

maybe that is how it got around? :p
jesus walked on water...depositing it in places in Troy...Carthage...Pompeii...Rome...Jerusalem?

namaste

keystone
21-09-2009, 09:43 PM
oh geesh which came first...?

you don't think these folks layer their symbolism?
don't assume they are as ignorant of you keystone.I'm finding it quite interesting that when you are challenged about anything then you immediately resort to insults. You got something wrong and you can't take it. By the way you are ignoring other things I have suggested to you. Now if you want this to be a one way conversation with you just preaching thats fine by me - I'll not waste my time further. I'm still working through your blogs BTW whist waiting for Royal Secret to arrive.

you still HAVE NOT told me what you know about the swastika that I can add to my database or about PRECESSION which the swastika/solomon's knot are amulets that was worn by the ancients?

did you know that the swastika was the MOST COMMON CROSS WORN BY folks in the Mediterranean when jesus was walking on water?
I suspect not, because you keep proving yourself ignornant.

maybe that is how it got around? :p
jesus walked on water...depositing it in places in Troy...Carthage...Pompeii...Rome...Jerusalem?I've told you once - no more than once. I am saying nothing more than I have already about the swastika until I have read the book you suggested I read. End of. OK?

Cheers

nihil
21-09-2009, 11:33 PM
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8100/confederatestatesofamer.jpg

With God our protector

It's odd to me that one of the founders of the KKK had some Natives under his command in the Civil War... so I did some searches:

- Union And Confederate Indians In The Civil War:

The Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Seminole tribes were the only Indian tribes who took an active part in the civil war. Before the war very few of the Indians of these tribes manifested any interest in the question of slavery, and only a small number owned slave property. Slavery among them was not regarded in the same light as among the whites, for in many instances the slaves acted as if they were on an equality with their masters.

Please note, it's from a site (http://www.jcs-group.com/military/war1861civil/indian.html) dealing with all-military sort of stuff, so the text must be translated to the non-brainwashed. The term Slavery/Masters actually refers to Tribes and the Chiefs of the Natives Tribes.

But the tribes named occupied valuable territory, and the Confederate authorities lost no time in sending agents among them to win them over. When the Confederate agents first approached the full-blood leaders of the Cherokee and Creek tribes on the subject of severing their relations with the United States, the Indian expressed themselves cautiously but decidedly as preferring to remain neutral.

I had responded the same!

Conspicuous among these who took a decided stand against organizing the Indians to oppose the Federal Government was Hopoeithelyohola, the old chief of the Creek tribe. The Confederate agents had succeeded in winning over ex-Chief McIntosh, by appointing him colonel, but, perhaps, two-thirds of the people preferred to be guided by the advice of their valuable old chief, Hopoeithleyohola.

So we got deceptive military 'Divide et Impera' exploitations... but what was doing exactly Albertus Pike? Here (http://www.civilwaralbum.com/indian/mcculloch1.htm) are his own words:

The Indian troops having been in the service for several months without pay, and not being supplied with clothing, tents, and blankets, I had made great exertions to collect supplies for them. In their thin clothing part of them, Creeks, Choctaws, and Chickasaws, had, under Colonel Cooper, pursued Hopoeithleyohola in the snow and cold, and fought him twice, first in the dark night and then in open daylight, killing in the last action nearly 400 of his men, and compelling him to retreat and abandon the country...

That mason was just heading the Natives against members of their own very Tribes.

- Native Americans in the Civil War:

Brigadier General Chief Stand Watie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_Watie) was one of the signers of a treaty that agreed to the removal of the Cherokee from their home in Georgia to what was then the Oklahoma territory. This split the tribes into two factions, and Stand Watie became the leader of the minority party.

At the outbreak of the Civil War, the minority party gave its allegiance to the Confederacy,
while the majority party went for the North.

After the Civil War... The official army policy was to provide necessities for the tribes during the winter, then to face the reality of fighting the same people when the weather cleared and they wished to change hunting grounds; this policy was known ironically to the common soldier as "feed 'em in winter, fight 'em in summer."


- The US and the Crime of Genocide Against Native Americans:

From the forced relocation and assimilation of the sauvage to the white man's way of life to the forced sterilization of Native Americans, the BIA set out to "destroy all things Indian". Through the exploration of the United States' Federal Indian policy, it is evident that this policy intended to "destroy, in whole or in part," the Native American population. The extreme disparity in the number of Native American people living within the United States' borders at the time Columbus arrived, approximately ten million compared to the approximate 2.4 million Indians and Eskimos alive in the United States today, is but one factor that illustrates the success of the government's plan of "Manifest Destiny".


- http://www.civilwarhome.com/nativeamericans.htm

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_Civil_War

- http://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/NorthAmerica/UnitedStates02.htm

nihil
22-09-2009, 12:36 AM
the aristocratic rose and cross sect
Manifest Destiny: A policy of imperialistic expansion defended as necessary or benevolent.

Here (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Manifest_Destiny) Columbia, intended as a personification of the United States, leads civilization westward with American settlers, stringing telegraph wire as she travels. In the 1840s, westward expansion proceeded at a rapid pace. Promises of wide-open spaces and inexpensive land with rich soil enticed many people in the East to pack up their possessions and head West.

Manifest Destiny is a Rosicrucian Utopia
Francis Bacon, a Rosicrucian, wrote the book New Atlantis: a fantasy with a Scientific Utopia underneath.


"No colony in the history of European colonization ranked above Massachusetts Bay in wealth, station, education, or capacity....their purpose was to accomplish in the new world that which they had been prevented from accomplishing at home. Their intention was to create in the American wilderness a new Zion..." (Encyclopedia Britannica 1970 Volume 18, Page 881)


Massachusetts was admitted as one of the original Thirteen Colonies in 1788. The first European settlement was made by the Pilgrims of the Mayflower. Year 1641: Although Virginia is the first colony to have slaves, Massachusetts is the first English colony to legally recognize slavery, which is already a common practice in the colonies.


Rosicrucians seek a 'Rosicrucian Utopia' through a 'world government composed of leaders of all nations'.

- http://www.rosicrucian.org/downloads/manifesto.pdf
New Atlantis: the American Dream

raphael
22-09-2009, 03:43 AM
I'm finding it quite interesting that when you are challenged about anything then you immediately resort to insults.
Cheers

I am finding it quite interesting that you are as entrenched in your ignorance as you are.

nazi comes from ashkenazi which means german in hebrew.
who cares what the WWII german nazis worked into their slogans.

>>the swastika is 10,000+ years old.
>>the nazi heraldry was the same as the ancient romans.
>>thus it is highly likely that the word nazi derives from ashkenazi, those were/are the JEWS that still adhere to the olde ways...those that bred like Fibonacci rabbits too. ;) ...logarithmically.

another final thing
swastika flag = jehovah

thus the nazis had adopted/enlisted an old testament jewish god to oppress the jews with.

namaste

keystone
22-09-2009, 08:20 AM
I am finding it quite interesting that you are as entrenched in your ignorance as you are.

nazi comes from ashkenazi which means german in hebrew.
who cares what the WWII german nazis worked into their slogans.

Well I disagree. If you are so certain please provide some academic evidence to support that theory.

>>the swastika is 10,000+ years old.
>>the nazi heraldry was the same as the ancient romans.
>>thus it is highly likely that the word nazi derives from ashkenazi, those were/are the JEWS that still adhere to the olde ways...those that bred like Fibonacci rabbits too. ;) ...logarithmically.

another final thing
swastika flag = jehovah

thus the nazis had adopted/enlisted an old testament jewish god to oppress the jews with.
However true thats a different subject so lets park it for the moment - we are discussing the origin of the word Nazi and its important to concentrate on that for the moment.

Cheers

nihil
22-09-2009, 06:12 PM
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1408/baconfraetext00nwatl11.jpg

The New Atlantis

Francis Bacon:

"Father of modern science, remodeler of modern law, editor of the modern Bible, patron of modern democracy, and one of the founders of modern Freemasonry, Sir Francis Bacon was a man of many aims and purposes. He was a Rosicrucian, some have intimated the Rosicrucian... Scores of volumes have been written to establish Sir Francis Bacon as the real author of the plays and sonnets popularly ascribed to William Shakspeare... The Bacon/Shakspeare controversy, as its most able advocates realize, involves the most profound aspects of science, religion, and ethics; he who solves the mystery may yet find therein the key to the supposedly lost wisdom of antiquity". - Manly P. Hall the Secret Teachings of All Ages, Page 542

Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were Rosicrucians, too.

"Rosicrucians were thought unorthodox and hence undesirable in the eye of the politico-religious powers of Europe.
They were accused of mixing Christian tenets with the practices of Ancient Egypt and some of the doctrines of Zoroaster". - John Palo, New World Mystics.


As reference to THIS (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1278360&postcount=126) previous post:

A book can be easily found in different editions, from the 1700 and the 1800, in Philadelphia area museums and libraries only. The general theme is that of the power of names, a Jewish Kabbalist belief. But this notion is conjoined with a medieval tradition that holds that many of the Psalms, and particularly those attributed to King David, contain within them hidden syllables which, when spoken aloud, will cause certain effects. To be accomplished, some breathing excercises and intoning of certain vowel sounds to musical notes unto secretive rituals.

See: 'The Secret of the Psalms' by Godfrey Selig Please note that it is a german noun translated to an english name


As reference to the Apotheosis of Washington:


http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3462/enoch.jpg

The Ascension of Enoch


Nothing more than old copy n' paste from Hindu Avatara.


More here:

Robert Hieronimus, America's Secret Destiny

Raymond Bernard, Great Secret Count St Germain

Linda Santucci, Bacons's 'Secret Society': The Ephrata Connection

Phylos, A Dweller on Two Planets

nihil
22-09-2009, 07:17 PM
Rosicrucians trace their traditional history to ancient Egypt and the Mystery School of Pharaoh Thutmose the Third. His descendent was Akhenaten, the heretic king. The Rosicrucians view Akhenaten as their traditional first Grand Master.


"My father is the Secret Doctrine and my mother is the Mysteries" - Comte De St Germain


rosecross agent
The Speech of the Unknown

Signing the Declaration of Independence

- Independence Hall at Philadelphia -


"Look at this strange history of a band of exiles and outcasts, suddenly transformed into a people–look at this wonderful Exodus of the oppressed of the Old World into the New, where they came, weak in arms but mighty in Godlike faith–nay, look at this history of your Bunker Hill–your Lexington–where a band of plain farmers mocked and trampled down the panoply of British arms, and then tell me, if you can, that God has not given America to the free?

(applause)

"It is not given to our poor human intellect to climb the skies, to pierce the councils of the Almighty One. But methinks I stand among the awful clouds which veil the brightness of Jehovah's throne. Methinks I see the Recording Angel–pale as an angel is pale, weeping as an angel can weep–come trembling up to that Throne, and speak his dread message–

"`Father! the old world is baptized in blood! Father, it is drenched with the blood of millions, butchered in war, in persecution, in slow and grinding oppression! Father–look, with one glance of Thine Eternal eye, look over Europe, Asia, Africa, and behold evermore, that terrible sight, man trodden down beneath the oppressor's feet–nations lost in blood–Murder and Superstition walking hand in hand over the graves of their victims, and not a single voice to whisper, "Hope to Man!"'

"He stands there, the Angel, his hands trembling with the black record of human guilt. But hark! The voice of Jehovah speaks out from the awful cloud–`Let there be light again. Let there be a New World. Tell my people–the poor–the trodden down millions, to go out from the Old World. Tell them to go out from wrong, oppression and blood–tell them to go out from this Old World–to build my altar in the New!'

(applause)

- George Lippard, Washington and His Generals: or Legends of the Revolution, 1847.
rosicrucians inthe usa

keystone
22-09-2009, 11:42 PM
really...?Yes really. Here's (http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zfl_51.htm) one clue. You don't get any more just yet.

Q/ a quick google search of the terms 'swastika milky way' yields what?
A/ 5 of the top 10 hits are my blog.

Q/ a quick google search of 'swastika DNA asymmetry' yields what?
A/ ALL 10 returns are mine. On the second page, 5 of 10. ;)OMG he uses Google for his data. Never mind.

you OBVIOUSLY haven't a clue, YET, as to how far my theory penetrates KeystoneOh I think you know I've got far more of a clue than you curently know

....but I can see you have an open mind.I like to think so which is one reason I ain't commenting too much (yet) until I've read the book you kindly pointed me at. Thanks for mentioning it.

here is something you can digest along with my post connecting those plates from Samarra Iraq.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/greek-astrologers-and-nazis-had-king-solomon-in-a-knot/

The above post was and still is one of my favorite 'revelations'...something my intuition helped uncover/recover for me...
(though it could use an update)

I will be the first to admit, that I, that no human being, discovers anything NEW.
It is more of a recovery process...putting the pieces back together again.

And when the puzzle is completed...
Past, present and future shall appear unified.

namasteThank you I shall have a look.

Cheers

keystone
22-09-2009, 11:49 PM
Well I'm going to have to answer this one fully now seeing as how you haven't responded to the invitation to discuss the origins of the word Nazi specifically and in isolation:

I am finding it quite interesting that you are as entrenched in your ignorance as you are.Resorting to insult again if challenged huh? :rolleyes:

nazi comes from ashkenazi which means german in hebrew.
who cares what the WWII german nazis worked into their slogans.I do not accept that. It may be your view but I don't agree.

>>the swastika is 10,000+ years old.Agreed.
>>the nazi heraldry was the same as the ancient romans.I'd prefer similar but on balance I agree.
>>thus it is highly likely that the word nazi derives from ashkenazi,Oh no you can't get away with that. You've just declared it to be a fact earlier in you post and told me I am ignorant for not accepting your statement - now you change it to "highly likely". I'd accept "possibility" but not "highly likely" and certainly not "fact"

another final thing
swastika flag = jehovahNo the swastika is a symbol for the godhead. Specifically reducing it to a single named OT god (Jehovah) is incorrect

thus the nazis had adopted/enlisted an old testament jewish god to oppress the jews with.That could well be correct and is not in conflict with what I have just written above.

Cheers

nihil
23-09-2009, 03:16 AM
The City of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - The City of Brotherly Love.

Its Motto: 'Philadelphia maneto' or 'Let brotherly love endure'


Philadelphia is strictly related to The Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis - AMORC .

A plan was started in Europe, around 1693, to send a colony of leaders in the Rosicrucian work from the principal European branches to America. The plan had its inspiration in the book called the New Atlantis by Francis Bacon. Bacon, while Imperator of the Rosicrucian Order in Europe, presented in detail his endeavors to the members of the principal Lodge of the Rosicrucian Order in London, known as the Philadelphia Lodge or the Philadelphic Lodge, named after the city in the East where one of the original mystery schools was located: at the site of the Oracle of Delphi.


Curiously enough, many fraternities in schools have greek letters names.

The same origin had the fraternity called Phi Beta Kappa, the first of a plethora of secret and non-secret societies created in colleges that was established by Thomas Jefferson[- (http://www.archive.org/details/greeklettermenof00maxw)]. Phi Theta Kappa (http://web.archive.org/web/20050907221435/http://www.harpercollege.edu/learning/ptk.shtml) is still existing today and is a direct offshoot of Phi Beta Kappa.


It is an old world disorder, indeed... US Debt:


http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/170/gnubookimagesphp.jpg


Rosenbach, Hyman Polock, The Jews in Philadelphia, prior to 1800
(http://www.archive.org/details/jewsinphiladelph00rose)

Description: This lecture was prepared for delivery before the Young Men's Hebrew Association of Philadelphia, on November 24th, 1883.

Made in AMORC

raphael
23-09-2009, 02:59 PM
No the swastika is a symbol for the godhead. Specifically reducing it to a single named OT god (Jehovah) is incorrect



whatever...no problem
if you want to elevate this symbol to the top of the apex ... it does NOT bother me.

can I quote you?
I already have. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/98-animate.gif

Nuremberg
berg = mountain.

blowing up the mountain?
climb every mountain....
Is that how we make the mountain come to us Mohammed?
Boom?
What does jesus the boy blunder say about mountains in the 5th Gospel of Thomas?
Maybe we should put him on trial in Nuremberg and ask him?
Hey Archimedes, tell me how you would move the world?

So the Judaeo/Christians really blew it eh?
LITERALLY and FIGURATIVELY?

Yup
Obviously we live under the domain of evil.
In the here and now.

The fact WE know swastika = godhead and has been marginalized with an INTENT since 1945 says what?
Come on now...what does logic suggest?

Let me tell EWE all.
This symbol is so powerful to the 'collective consciousness' that THEY have twisted its meaning for their benefit, and our demise, or shall I say servitude, dude.

And the Freemason plebe is just another tool used to tend to the garden of good and evil.
Some shovel shit.
Some rake in the dough.
Others clip our wings...
And most are spiritual Hoes who fuck others for a living.
Is that called getting ahead or getting head?
I suspect EWE know the difference when EWE finally arrive.

namaste

raphael
23-09-2009, 05:35 PM
Rosicrucians trace their traditional history to ancient Egypt and the Mystery School of Pharaoh Thutmose the Third. His descendent was Akhenaten, the heretic king. The Rosicrucians view Akhenaten as their traditional first Grand Master.




interesting the not so rosy link.

interesting also because Akhenaten was an obvious, shall we say, a Sun of God worshiper? ;)

..and what should we make of king tut, Akhenaten's sun, err I mean son, who was known as 'king tut' or Tutankhamen, who it appeared started reversing, re-instating the MOON as a deity?

namaste

nihil
23-09-2009, 09:25 PM
The Pilgrims were English Separatists who founded a Colony in New England. They actually departed from Leyden, in Holland, and went to London, where they found a financial agreement to substain that long oceanic trip. This agreement was a partnership and lasted the space of seven years

" …during which time all profits and benefits remain in the common stock until division ".

At the end of the seven years, the capital and profits to be equally divided between who financed and the so-called planters in Plymouth, New England. So the Pilgrims agreed to establish a commune, with all property and the fruits of all labor contributed into a common pool to be divided equally among the Pilgrims for their daily survival, and between the Pilgrims and the financiers at the end of the seven year contract.
They called their arrangement a "commonwealth", where all wealth was held in common, and there was no private property. In short, socialism was founded in the States. Even back then they had a word, derived from the concept of commonly owned property: communism.


Strange and grotesque decorations did the outside of the earliest
meeting-houses bear, grinning wolves' heads nailed under the windows and
by the side of the door, while splashes of blood, which had dripped
from the severed neck, reddened the logs beneath. The wolf, for his
destructiveness, was much more dreaded by the settlers than the bear,
which did not so frequently attack the flocks.

It is Puritan Civilization, folks...

In Salem and in Ipswich, in 1640, any man who brought a living wolf to the meeting-house
was paid fifteen shillings by the town; if the wolf were dead, ten shillings.
In 1664, if the wolf-killer wished to obtain the reward, he was
ordered to bring the wolf's head and "nayle it to the meeting-house and
give notis thereof." In Hampton, the inhabitants were ordered to "nayle the
same to a little red oake tree at northeast end of the meeting-house."


"Old house of Puritanic wood,
Through whose unpainted windows streamed,
On seats as primitive and rude
As Jacob's pillow when he dreamed,
The white and undiluted day"


- Alice Morse Earle, The Sabbath in Puritan New England

- W. A. Alcott, Among the Puritans

nihil
23-09-2009, 11:24 PM
Epigaea repens, the mayflower or trailing arbutus, has been the official floral emblem of Nova Scotia since 1901.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4210/800pxtrailingarbutus200.jpg

Epigaea repens is a low, spreading shrub in the Ericaceae family. The species flowers are pink, fading to nearly white.

Epigaea Meaning: On the Earth

repens Meaning: Spreading, creeping

Epigaea repens is the floral emblem of both Nova Scotia and Massachusetts.

raphael
23-09-2009, 11:31 PM
http://www.mysticmerchant.com/fairyseeds/whitemoonflower1a.jpg

the epigaea repens reminds me of the MOON flower....which has a distinct pentagram...
MOON = phi?

yup...

Epigaea repens is the floral emblem of both Nova Scotia and Massachusetts.

all I know about Nova Scotia is that one of their banks wuz robbed on 911.
took place while the big distraction above ground was happening.

http://www.911review.com/motive/gold.html


namaste

nihil
23-09-2009, 11:44 PM
I assimilated that whitish as White Brotherhood.

nihil
24-09-2009, 06:58 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8569/150pxphotoofrssmember.jpg

' Hi Guyz. I am the only good person in this post '.


Buddhism originated in India in the 5th century BC and inherited the manji or swastika. Also known as a "yung drung" in ancient Tibet, it was a graphical representation of eternity.

In 1922, the Chinese Syncretist movement Daoyuan founded the philanthropic association Red Swastika Society in imitation of the Red Cross. The association was very active in China during the 1920s and the 1930s.


Pledge of Allegiance in the USA

Francis Bellamy (author of the "Pledge of Allegiance") and Edward Bellamy (author of the novel "Looking Backward") and Charles Bellamy (author of "A Moment of Madness") and Frederick Bellamy (who introduced Edward to socialistic "Fourierism") were socialists. Francis and Edward were both self-proclaimed National Socialists and they supported the "Nationalism" movement in the USA, the "Nationalist" magazine, and the "Nationalist Educational Association." They wanted to nationalize everything and they wanted all of society to ape the military and they touted "military socialism" and the "industrial army". Francis' pledge was the origin of the Nazi salute.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9048/usapledgeofallegiancere.jpg

The original Pledge of Allegiance began with a military salute that then stretched out toward the flag.

Girl Scouts & Boy Scouts (from 1907) and other Americans helped spread the USA's "Nazi" salute worldwide, and the swastika, and robotic chanting to flags in military formation. The stiff-armed American salute spread through various groups including the Theosophical Society and Freemasons that supported Edward and Francis Bellamy. It also spread globally through Girl Scout and Boy Scouts.

In 1888, Edward Bellamy wrote 'Looking Backward' and it became known as the bible of National Socialism. It inspired Nationalism movements worldwide. Madame Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society, openly endorsed Bellamy's book. The swastika symbol was used by the Theosophical Society (from 1875) during the time when the Bellamys, Freemasons and the Theosophical Society worked together to promote socialism.

American socialists bear some blame for altering the notorious symbol used as overlapping S-letters for socialism society under the National Socialist German Workers Party. As German socialism's notorious flag symbol, the swastika was deliberately turned 45 degrees to the horizontal and always oriented in the direction similar to the S alphabetic symbol.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3125/swastikaalphabeticsymbo.jpg
* swastika is banned in Germany and may not be shown publicly *


Near the same period, the well-known and long-time socialist Benito Mussolini began to mimick American socialists in their use of the stiff-arm salute, robotic chanting to flags, the use of the fasces as a symbol of government, and the glorification of ancient Rome (NWO). In 1921, Mussolini created a new sub-group called Fasci di combattimento (also known as the Fascio nazionale di combattimento - Note the use of the word "Nazionale" in another eerie parallel to the same use for the National Socialist German Workers Party, the origin of the word Nazi).

The term "fascio" was the Italian word for workers' groups, peasant organizations, labor unions and the other socialist groups where Mussolini had developed a large following. It meant "band" or people banding together, and referred to his socialist band of combat. It is similar to the word "faction" in that Mussolini's group was another of many socialist-inspired factions. Socialism is always faction against faction. Obviously they were the ruling factions in a society based on terror...

When Mussolini chose the ancient Roman fasces as a symbol of his socialist group, he was at the same time playing with the similarity of the words fascio and fasces, choosing an ancient symbol, and drawing a parallel between it and the socialists who had banded together, spellbound by Mussolini's leadership.

German National Socialists used the term "Hakenkreuz". The oldest reference for the symbol of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party is “Hakenkreuz”, not “swastika”.


http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=pub-0262891402493658&channel=1784370543&cof=FORID:13%3BAH:left%3BCX:NTK%3BL:http://www.google.com/intl/en/images/logos/custom_search_logo_sm.gif%3BLH:30%3BLP:1%3BLC:%230 000ff%3BVLC:%23663399%3BGFNT:%230000ff%3BGIMP:%230 000ff%3BDIV:%23336699%3B&cx=partner-pub-0262891402493658:o8xtsj-6wbl&adkw=AELymgVkf9ABEQ31Rw6g78KfAQuCcPWWE3eHrDX4RxF4z mgLYoigDCdRATK-Wm4VTBU4w-VlKsItvqn3lUY1GDwb815TjJwRtP87EnN1uPE7DBfEOLs-pgU&q=nazi+party+in+usa&start=0&sa=N

christuffer
24-09-2009, 07:40 PM
Dan Brown is a Mason and the book is full of disinfo, like all of his other books.

He leads you on a wild goose chase to make you think you've uncovered something.

Look at his mason 'm' hand pose on the inside cover.


Plus, his English is terrible

nihil
24-09-2009, 07:45 PM
"If you join the Masons you take a vow of secrecy. I could not have written this book if I were a Mason" says author Dan Brown.

Dan Brown may loathe Catholics, but he just adores the Masons. League president Bill Donohue comments: “Brown goes out of his way in ‘The Lost Symbol’ to present the lodge as essentially benign and misunderstood”. The Catholic Church, of course, is seen by Brown as essentially wicked and misunderstood only by its followers. “Masons are praised for their religious tolerance,” the article says. Somehow Catholics failed to notice: so abhorrent were Masons in their thrashing of Catholicism that the 1917 Code of Canon Law provided for automatic excommunication to any Catholic who joined a lodge. The current stricture in the Church, following the 1983 revisions to the Code, doesn’t mention Masons by name, but does retain excommunication for those who join anti-Catholic organizations.


The United States' entrance into the Korean conflict prompted a resumption of anxiety about protecting the target area of Washington, D.C., and its residents in case of a bombing attack. In 1954, an underground defense communications establishment was begun at Fort Reno. Radar and other sound-sensitive antennas, dishes, and horns were installed atop a new brick tower at Reno—the one that does not hold water. The underground communications center reportedly links the White House with other larger centers in the Middle Atlantic states.

- Judith Beck Helm,Tenleytown, D.C. Country Village Into City Neighborhood

Plus, his English is terrible

From Fahrenheit to Danny B. :)

keystone
24-09-2009, 09:22 PM
Dan Brown is a Mason and the book is full of disinfo, like all of his other books.No he isn't and its a work of fiction.

He leads you on a wild goose chase to make you think you've uncovered something.Well... erm.. that would be ..... because .... its a novel!

Look at his mason 'm' hand pose on the inside cover.Oh dear - someone else fallen for that load of old tosh.

Plus, his English is terribleON that we can agree. Not at all well written.

Oh but hang on. I'm starting to see your POV. Dan's book is fiction as is Eric's. Yes you are right - both lead you on a wild goose chase to make you think you've uncovered something.

Cheers

nihil
25-09-2009, 03:17 PM
Tavistock Institute Mind Control at archive.org:

http://www.archive.org/flow/flowplayer.commercial-3.0.5.swf

The Tavistock Institute

Tavistock House 30 Tabernacle Street London EC2A 4UE/n

Formed in 1947, the Tavistock Institute is an independent not-for-profit organisation which seeks to combine research in the social sciences with professional practice. Problems of institution-building and organisational design and change are being tackled in all sectors - government, industry and commerce, health and welfare, education, etc, nationally and internationally, and clients range from multinationals to small community groups.

nihil
25-09-2009, 03:23 PM
Coleman - The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations - Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political and Economic Decline of The United States of America (2005)

This dr. John Coleman's shocking book The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations - Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political and Economic Decline of The United States of America (2005) which is the biggest expose of the world famous brainwashing Tavistock Institute and its catastrophic impact on world affairs since its inception. The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations has had a profound effect on the moral, spiritual, cultural, political and economic policies of the United States of America and Great Britain. It has been in the front line of the attack on the U.S. Constitution and State constitutions. No group did more to propagandize the U.S. to participate in WWI at a time when the majority of the American people were opposed to it. Much of the same tactics were used by the Social Science scientists at Tavistock to get the United States into WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Serbia and both wars against Iraq. Tavistock began as a propaganda creating and disseminating organization at Wellington House in London in the run-up to WWI, what Toynbee called 'that black hole of disinformation, a lie factory.' In 1821, operations that were to shape the destinies of Germany, Russia, Britain and the United States were transferred to the Tavistock Institute. The people of these nations were unaware that they were being 'brainwashed.' Tavistock's 'mind control,' 'inner directional conditioning' and mass 'brainwashing' methods, still very much in use today, are explained in this easy to understand book written with great authority. The fall of dynasties, the Bolshevik Revolution, WWI and WWII saw the destruction of old alliances and boundaries, the convulsions in religion, morals, family life, economic and political conduct and the decadence in music and art that can all be traced back to mass indoctrination (mass brainwashing) practiced by the Tavistock Institute Social Science scientists. Prominent among Tavistock's faculty was Edward Bernays, the double nephew of Sigmund Freud. It is said that Herr Goebbels, Propaganda Minister in the German Third Reich used methodology devised by Bernays as well as that of Willy Munzenberg. This is a book about the past, present and future. Without Tavistock, there would have been no Bolshevik Revolution and no WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Serbia and Iraq wars. But for Tavistock, the United States would not be rushing down the road to dissolution and collapse. Find out how much of the world's history has simple been 'made' by specialists for propaganda and mass brainwashing. 285 pages, some pictures. A must read for everyone.

nihil
25-09-2009, 03:24 PM
The United States, harried, hounded, pushed and shoved is
headed of a fast track to the New World Order, propelled
along by the Radical Republicans of the War Party who have
been taken over by the scientists at the Tavistock Institute for
Human Relations.

Just recently I was asked by a subscriber "where do we find
the Tavistock Institute?" My response was: "Look around the
U.S. Senate, the House of Representatives, the White House,
the State Department, the Defense Department, Wall Street,
Fox T.V. and you will see their change agents in
every one of these places."

Without going into the technicalities of the Club of Rome,
(hereinafter referred to as "the Club,") its purpose was to act
as a counterweight against post-industrial agricultural and
military expansion, a so-called "post-industrial agricultural
zero growth society," which was meant to halt America's
burgeoning manufacturing industries and growing
mechanized farming food production capability. Memberships
of the Club and NATO were interchangeable.

Stanford Research, the Tavistock Institute and other centers of
applied social psychiatry joined it. In 1994 Tavistock signed
a major contract with NASA to evaluate the effects of its
space program. The Club itself was only founded in 1968 as
part of the call for a New World Order inside a One World
Government. What the Club became was an instrument to
enforce limits of growth on industrial nations, and the United
States was the first country to be targeted.

This was in fact one of the earliest steps taken to implement
the "300" goal of returning the U.S. to a state of feudalism, a
feudal society. One of the industries the Club railed against
was nuclear energy, and they were successful in halting
construction of all nuclear electricity generating plants that
has put demand a thousand years ahead of the supply of
electrical power. NATO was its military alliance meant to
keep Russia in line.

On the agenda of the 1980 meeting referred to above were
the following:

* Women's liberation movement.

* Black consciousness, racial mixing, breaking down taboos
against mixed marriages as propounded by anthropologist
Margaret Meade and Gregory Bateson of Tavistock.

* It was decided at this meeting that an aggressive program
would be launched to portray "colored races" as superior to
Western Civilization white persons. From this forum came
Oprah Winfrey and a host of black persons who were picked
up and trained for their roles to portray "mixed races" as
superior to whites.

*It could also be seen in movies where black movie stars
suddenly proliferated until they became household names. It
was seen also where a black person was placed in the role a
high position of authority over whites, such a judge, or a
district head of the FBI and the military, CEOs of large
corporations etc.

* Youth rebellion against imagined societal wrongs.

* Emerging interest in social responsibility of business.

* The generation gap implying a changing paradigm.

* Experimentation with new family structures
interpersonal relationships in which homosexuality and
lesbianism became "normalized" and "no different
from other people acceptable at all levels of society, two
lesbian "moms."

* The emergence of the fake conservation/ecology
movements such as "Greenpeace"

* A surge in interest in Eastern religious and philosophical
perspectives.

* A renewed interest in "fundamentalist" Christianity.

* Labor unions shifting emphasis to quality of the work
environment.

* An increasing interest in meditation and other spiritual
disciplines The "Kabala" was to supplant Christian culture
and special people were chosen to teach and spread Kabala.
Early chosen disciples were Shirley McLean, Roseanne Barr
and later, Madonna and Demi Moore.

* The increasing importance of "self-realization" processes.

*Reinvention of music, "hip-hop" and "rap," by such groups
as "Ice Cube."

* A new language form in which English is so mutilated
as to be unintelligible. This is being carried over into
news readers on prime time television.

These disparate trends signified the emergence of a created
climate of social upheaval and far-reaching changes as a new
image of human beings began to take hold bringing with
them radical changes in Western civilization.

nihil
25-09-2009, 05:33 PM
The United Nations and the Freemasonry (Die Freimauerei) have both a common chamber in their palaces, either called chambers of reflection, or room for silent reflection, as at the UN headquarters. Parallel terms to indicate a space where members of UN and/or masonry silently acquire the old notion of Memento Mori. While grimy masons adorn the space with symbols of death, the news't creation of an Old World Dis-order (UN) deals with raw stone blocks and an unknown source of light ...is it an Unknown Luciferous Altar??

According to the paper “Spirituality at the United Nations”, by Donald Keys, in the early 1950’s the Layman’s Movement worked successfully to create one room at UN headquarters for silent reflection. This room was open on October 14, 1952. In 1956 Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjöld with the cooperation of the Laymen’s Movement set out to redesign the room. In November 1957 the transformed meditation room reopened to create an atmosphere of stillness by placing a six and a half ton block of crystalline block of iron ore from a Swedish mine in the middle of the room with a beam of light striking from an unseen source on the stone, a symbol of the transcendent light of the skies gives life to the earth on which we stand—a symbol, according to Mr. Hammarskjöld, of how the light of the spirit gives life to matter.

Dag Hammarskjöld said in 1956:

The Meditation Room is a kind of stepchild of the architects of this house. We have a very small space within which we sought to achieve a room of stillness. This house must have one room, one place, which is dedicated to Silence, dedicated to silence in the outer sense and stillness in the inner sense. We must do everything possible in creating such a room to create an atmosphere where people could really withdraw into themselves and feel the void.


http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7118/chambeofreflectionfeat3.png

Image Source (http://www.freemasoninformation.com/2009/06/the-anterroom-or-chamber-of-reflection/) - Freemasonic chambers of reflection are rooms containing various symbols, as the Death of the Tarot. The Grim Reaper - The Tarot card:


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2991/msasonicdeath.jpg



masons related ? NWO room for silent reflection, as at the UN headquarters.

nihil
27-09-2009, 10:28 PM
"I tell you now that Freemasonry is one of the most wicked and terrible organizations upon this earth. The Masons are major players in the struggle for world domination. The 33rd Degree is split into two. One split contains the core of the Luciferian Illuminati and the other contains those who have no knowledge of it whatsoever."

- Behold A Pale Horse , p. 78

raphael
28-09-2009, 05:02 PM
The United Nations and the Freemasonry (Die Freimauerei) have both a common chamber in their palaces, either called chambers of reflection...


On this post I showed how ALL the temples seem to follow the same architecture...that of DNA. ;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058285531&postcount=1456

Would the Vatican = UN = Freemasonry, be any different?

http://www.state.gov/cms_images/030801_UN_Approves_peacekeeping_force_512_copy2.jp ghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Arecibo_message_part_4.png

The UN Chamber and a 'binary code' representation of our DNA, sent out as part of encrypted meSSage sent out into space.
The Arceibo message.



The Meditation Room is a kind of stepchild of the architects of this house. We have a very small space within which we sought to achieve a room of stillness. This house must have one room, one place, which is dedicated to Silence, dedicated to silence in the outer sense and stillness in the inner sense. We must do everything possible in creating such a room to create an atmosphere where people could really withdraw into themselves and feel the void.


http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7118/chambeofreflectionfeat3.pnghttp://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2991/msasonicdeath.jpg

Image Source (http://www.freemasoninformation.com/2009/06/the-anterroom-or-chamber-of-reflection/) -
Freemasonic chambers of reflection are rooms containing various symbols, as the Death card #13, of the Tarot. The Grim Reaper -


How do we further connect all of the above BACK to the SWASTIKA and Amiens Cathedral in France and the lowly Freemason, who do not know what they do, or really support?

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/1595625-Things_To_Do-Amiens.jpg

Quote:
THE TEMPLAR HEAD: ” a great head of gilded silver, most beautiful, in the image of a woman. Inside were two head bones, wrapped in white linen with another red cloth around it. “
On an attached label is written “CAPUT LVIIIm” - “HEAD 58″.

HEAD 58 of St. John the Baptist ... even presented on a platter!!
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/13-the-knights-templar-and-head-58-st-john-the-baptist/
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/st-john-the-baptist-knights-templar-were-aeon-pagan-nazis/
http://en.wordpress.com/tag/st-john-the-baptist-knights-templar-were-nazis/

58 = 13 = 4

follow the trail of blood.
follow the trail of bloodlines.

bloodlines >> heredity >> heraldry >> left and right >> asymmetry >> DNA >> bloodlines
bloodlines >> use various semitic alphabets.

a.k.a. the proto-semitic Runes
fehu = alpha and odal = omega

A big clue to the bloodlines we are tracking using the archetypes that withstand the distortions of space and time.

And let me point out something else about Left hand vs. Right Hand asymmetry.
The Grim Reaper uses a scythe.

Scythes were primarily right handed.
Left handed scythes are about as rare as the messiah these end of daze.

namaste

Raphael

raphael
28-09-2009, 05:38 PM
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7118/chambeofreflectionfeat3.png



WOW I knew that image looked familiar.
Real familiar ... beyond the 'skull' and the St. John the Baptist connections.

In addition to my above post...let me take it a step further...this gets interesting and is a path to respect.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatGuide.jpg
The Great Guide

Take a look at the bottom of the image.
Look familiar? ;)

Zoroaster had 4 Oracles...I have written about one of them:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/37-solfeggio-zoroasters-oracles-seed-of-life/
All about the patterns I noticed.

The same archetypal patterns that keep reappearing.
That can be recognized by the archetypal company they keep.

The Chaldæan Oracles of Zoroaster
by W. Wynn Westcott
[1895]
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/coz/index.htm

As you may know, Wynn Westcott and A.E. Waite and A. Crowley were buddies?

namaste