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lostinstrangeworld
21-08-2007, 04:58 PM
Please post all your ideas surrounding the mystery of polarity...must positive and negative....opposites....exist??
What is it like in other, higher dimensions, I wonder? Is polarity an essential part of existence?
:confused:
kblood
21-08-2007, 05:25 PM
As I see it we need both. We cant be happy all the time since happiness would then become something we wouldnt be able to feel, and therefore nullifying the feeling of happiness. Im not really sure that the world is split up in good and evil as much as some might believe, but how would we be able to appreciate what we have and love if it wasnt something fragile in any way? Fragileness is relative of course. Some things might last several years, and have ups and downs, like love and marriage, but it makes it all the more worth it. Without our struggles, small or big, we would just be monotonous,if you get my meaning.
Did I understand your question correctly? On higher planes with devils and demons, I dont believe they interfere with each other directly, if they even exist. As I see it they simply try to push in in different directions.
john white
21-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Please post all your ideas surrounding the mystery of polarity...must positive and negative....opposites....exist??
What is it like in other, higher dimensions, I wonder? Is polarity an essential part of existence?
:confused:
No. Polarity is simply mental identification with a point of seperation from balance
If i'm at the maximum "positive" polarity, I'm at the maximum distance from the "negative polarity", and there appears to be a vast differnce between them that has to be traveled: and visa versa
But if i'm at the point of balance, i'm still, and it is polarity traveling away and traveling towards me
lostinstrangeworld
21-08-2007, 08:03 PM
What is perfect balance?:)
lapis
21-08-2007, 09:40 PM
We incarnate into physicality and polarity because these qualities don't exist in higher vibrating dimensions. This is one big reason why Earth life has been such a popular hot spot; it's the only place to experience and live in polarity in physicality.
Polarity teaches us how much more seemingly separate and/or individuated we can get away from Source. As far as balancing polarity.....that just freezes and keeps one in polarity and it dosen't last long anyway. It's painful tightrope-walking across a razor's edge! ;)
Eventually we realize that the way back up and out of polarity is through inner polarity resolution in ourselves. Reclaiming, facing, dealing with and then reintegrating all our rejected and projected 'stuff'......all the light all the dark/male and female, all of it. This is what much of humanity is currently living through (the ascension process or simply our spiritual alchemical evolution). When this process starts for someone, they know they've entered a totally different phase of life and evolution!
The higher faster or less dense we energetically evolve, above a certain level of frequency and dimension, polarity simply does not exist. Instead, increasing layers or levels of unity is experienced instead of increased separation as has been the case here on Earth for so long.
lostinstrangeworld
21-08-2007, 11:25 PM
The higher faster or less dense we energetically evolve, above a certain level of frequency and dimension, polarity simply does not exist. Instead, increasing layers or levels of unity is experienced instead of increased separation as has been the case here on Earth for so long.
Great- interesting.
Do you guys understand the meaning of balancing our duality is to accept it.....forgiving ourselves, not blaming ourselves......not to identify with a 'negative' emotion but to try and distance ourselves from it, viewing it more objectively?
Are we all subject to the ebb and flow of life as long as we live; that no-one can be 'perfect'.......
Then what about self-mastery?
john white
22-08-2007, 02:52 AM
Great- interesting.
Do you guys understand the meaning of balancing our duality is to accept it.....forgiving ourselves, not blaming ourselves......not to identify with a 'negative' emotion but to try and distance ourselves from it, viewing it more objectively?
Are we all subject to the ebb and flow of life as long as we live; that no-one can be 'perfect'.......
Then what about self-mastery?
Observe everything
What is perfect balance?
we/i/you are
Consciousness is always the centre
"think" about it: wherever you are, what ever your think, whatever you feel, whatever you do:
"you" are always the centre of "you're" Universe
What then is duality but empathy with a point of distance?
john white
22-08-2007, 02:54 AM
We desire to become more "good" by "moving forwards"
We desire not to be "evil" by not "going backwards":
but neither is where we are NOW
both are projections
lostinstrangeworld
22-08-2007, 08:59 AM
That is what I wonder.....both are projections of empathy with a point of distance......
What about all this talking of "ascending" to higher dimensions?
I'm very interested in these philosophies, of altering one's vibrational frequency by changing one's diet, thoughts, etc.
lostinstrangeworld
22-08-2007, 12:02 PM
Just came across this....this spiritual teacher gives me such a sense of timelessness, by the way he speaks.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXwi601VnVc
Perhaps, then, the material world represents the 'native' end of the pole, and the spiritual the 'positive'??
Just a thought.
He might not have assembled all of the pieces of the puzzle.
Who knows?
lostinstrangeworld
22-08-2007, 12:48 PM
I know David had the revelation when he went into his trance, as described in his book.....What I'm wondering is maybe he got a lot of truth from it, but not the full picture. Maybe.
Infinite Love is the only truth- therefor polarity is just a part of the illusion.
But what if it does matter how we live our lives, and it isn't all "boll*cks"??
What if, for every thing we do that helps others, we are infinitely rewarded, in the next spiritual realm? A sort of love flowing through you that you helped flow through others and connects you to all you have done?
I don't know if it makes sense or not.
lifeofbrian
22-08-2007, 05:30 PM
I know David had the revelation when he went into his trance, as described in his book.....What I'm wondering is maybe he got a lot of truth from it, but not the full picture. Maybe.
Infinite Love is the only truth- therefor polarity is just a part of the illusion.
But what if it does matter how we live our lives, and it isn't all "boll*cks"??
What if, for every thing we do that helps others, we are infinitely rewarded, in the next spiritual realm? A sort of love flowing through you that you helped flow through others and connects you to all you have done?
I don't know if it makes sense or not.
Spot on.
For some reason, life on Earth has been downplayed as of less importance than floating about as a spirit somewhere else. That is very curious. Especially since we in human form are so very attractive to those without physical bodies. They envy us and our opportunities. Oh yes, discarnates have very 'human' qualities and are capable of envy, jealousy, resentment, manipulation, addictions, deceit, etc.
A fact of life is that we cannot think or feel our way out of this experience as in earning a continued evolution elsewhere. Action is required.
Maybe some time in the future the 3D reality will be one full of grays, with huge heads and wasted limbs. Obsessed with and lost in thought and unable to do anything about their thoughts.
There is a reason for everything. Even our physical form being the way it is.
lostinstrangeworld
22-08-2007, 10:34 PM
"Action is required".
Reminds me of something I read recently.
http://www.holisticlearningcenter.com/absolutely.html
john white
22-08-2007, 11:00 PM
But what if it does matter how we live our lives, and it isn't all "boll*cks"??
What if, for every thing we do that helps others, we are infinitely rewarded, in the next spiritual realm? A sort of love flowing through you that you helped flow through others and connects you to all you have done?
I don't know if it makes sense or not.
I believe/perceive that it does matter, in that the consciousness we hold and exist in is our contribution to the consciousness of the whole
"Everything is illusion" helps as long as it is helpful: but not if it is unhelpful
We might as well say "Everything is real: but has a greater nature than we currently understand"
In fact, it doesn't matter what we say: what matters is where we are at
I have chosen to believe/percieve that the ideal is always to seek harmony, both within and without: thats what feels most "real" to me