Are evangelical Christians ruining this forum?

[dhama_initiative]

So what if evangelical Christians are on here pushing their beliefs and calling David Icke a Devil?
Do you think that David Icke gives a damn?


Yes, it upset him when an "anti new age" book by a fundy Christian condemned him, and then Christians kept posting copies of the book through his letterbox. He wrote about it in the robots rebellion. There are also a couple of videos on youtube of him defeating ridicolously irrational, over-emotional fundy christians in debate.

[dhama_initiative]

Is "persecuting" nesacarily a bad thing? Could you "persecute" a bad group like say, Nazis or Pedophiles for good? Was Jesus persecuting the temple traders he whipped?

[stfd]

It's not my re-definition, stfc.

"Fundamentalist Christianity, also known as Christian fundamentalism or fundamentalist evangelicalism, is a movement that arose mainly within British and American Protestantism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries among conservative evangelical Christians, who, in a reaction to liberal theology, actively affirmed a fundamental set of Christian beliefs: the inerrancy of the Bible, Sola Scriptura, the virgin birth of Christ, the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, and the imminent personal return of Jesus Christ."

"Some who hold these beliefs reject the label of "fundamentalism", seeing it as a pejorative term for historic Christian doctrine,[1] while to others it has become a banner of pride. Some left-leaning and centrist Christians since the turn of the twentieth century have taken to the use of the word "extremist" instead, feeling that use of "fundamentalism" provides the views of such groups with an authority they do not deserve.

I personally have problems with the term myself - For instance, I don't agree that my liberal catholic friends are not following the "fundamentals" of their faith - however, the term is in common usage, and so communicaties the meaning to readers.





Those 'definitions' are wrong and made to cause disention.
thats that.
I really dont care if those 'definitions' are off wikipedia or any other sites or places with more or less credibility.
Point is - stuff has been re-define, re-shaped , re-formed and so manufactured in order for therms ,words and even ideeas to partially or entirely loose their TRUE meaning.

But whatever , you can believe whichever you feel like.
I for one , remain 'oldschool' and i feel good this way and more importantly FREE.

[stfd]

Is "persecuting" nesacarily a bad thing? Could you "persecute" a bad group like say, Nazis or Pedophiles for good? Was Jesus persecuting the temple traders he whipped?

Perscuting is a bad thing.

Jesus wasnt persecuting the 'traders' in the temple.


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incredible

[baxter]

Evangelical Christians ruin everything :D

+1

[dhama_initiative]

You're just getting sniffy, stfd. Where's your Christian love? Compassion and patience.

[the moral man]

Dear Michael Christopher
kind regards
In response to your comments.

In actuality, I was complaining about being attacked by people with other belief systems.

Your moaning is something along the lines of pot calling the kettle black.
You probably attacked the religionists for their beliefs and cried like a baby when they retaliated.

But you can perceive it however you wish - as you are just another religionist. Moral condescension from a Matrix idolator is like salt on a steak for this thread.

Actually the Matrix V trilogy is a guide, not a Bible.
The only belief that I have is in the perfectness of my Spirit and the imperfection of the World and everything within it.
Graduation should be the only objective of an intelligent being and mostly everything else should be seen as deceptive.
yours thankfully
John

[thirdwave]

You're just getting sniffy, stfd. Where's your Christian love? Compassion and patience.

In all honesty I know a couple people who are Christians and they are cool, but the bottom line is and although it might offend them, I don't think they are really Christians, they are more people who use Jesus and various parts of the bible as inspiration to help them...

If I got into a row with them about if Jesus had lived they would not have a leg to stand on, but because they keep it to them selves I don't bother..

Thats the Ironic thing, when people say, "THEY are not real Christians" because they are so full on and bad and stuff, well they ARE the real Christians, the mellow ones are just people who chip in..

Ok we all know that people like Mr Bush, and Obama don't think Jesus is their messiah.. ok... We know when Hitler was talking in the name of Christianity he was just telling people what they wanted to hear and was about as much of a Christian as a brick.

what niggles me is a good majority of the Christians here do think that the Jews! are in those positions though. No, they wont say that this person or that person are not real Jews... they will prosecute them for it.

And of course the same goes for Islam, when they show a group of thugs cutting someone head off, as if they are the ambassadors of Islam... when most of them are probably CIA casualties anyway.

This is what bugs me... none of them catch on though, so thats the bottom line, they all never learn and all continue being the victims and villans.

[stfd]

You're just getting sniffy, stfd. Where's your Christian love? Compassion and patience.

i appologise...
I got a bit ... well sniffy -real sorry.
I have calmed down now :) is all cool

[truth finder]

Everyone almost can take and give a bit of banter with jokes. But it gets way beyond that at times and ends up a cacophony of personal abuse/insults with false labels (character defamation) leading to a bad reputation based on falsity.



Thats what i was saying earlier, the thread starts out good, but give it 5 pages and it all turns nasty and pesonal...

[michael christopher]

Dear Michael Christopher
kind regards
In response to your comments.



Your moaning is something along the lines of pot calling the kettle black.
You probably attacked the religionists for their beliefs and cried like a baby when they retaliated.

Actually, whenever I post my research on Christianity I am attacked as a pagan. People put my names in the tags for threads and act like I am "slag-tagging" - I have been told to kill myself, called a devil-worshiper, etc.

Merely for posting my own research or thoughts. I don't bitch about it very often.

Actually the Matrix V trilogy is a guide, not a Bible.

Well, you are entitled to your point of view on that. I'm entitled to mine.

The only belief that I have is in the perfectness of my Spirit and the imperfection of the World and everything within it.

And of course in the Matrix theory of "graduation."

Graduation should be the only objective of an intelligent being and mostly everything else should be seen as deceptive.
yours thankfully
John

Right, I'm sure you're very sincere with the "kind regards" and "yours thankfully" - you know little falsities are a sign of a larger spiritual deception.

"Peace." :)

[thirdwave]

Actually, whenever I post my research on Christianity I am attacked as a pagan.

If I was forced to lable my self in some way, then a Pagan would be my first port of call.

I might at some day create my own bible and officially become one, who knows.

[michael christopher]

If I was forced to lable my self in some way, then a Pagan would be my first port of call.

I might at some day create my own bible and officially become one, who knows.

I communicate with many spirits and feel like they help me all the time, however we have a clear relationship where I do not worship them. I should be clear though, I think all people are helped by these spirits, I just choose to be more aware of them. So I guess I can't be called a pagan for that reason. I believe there is no higher power than the one God that is the singularity (just the omnipresent All) and that we all work toward becoming one with it. I don't try to convert people to my beliefs though. I just don't like being called a Satanist whenever I make any sort of thread that posits an idea contradictory to Christian ideas.

[danceswithbunnies]

I communicate with many spirits and feel like they help me all the time, however we have a clear relationship where I do not worship them. I should be clear though, I think all people are helped by these spirits, I just choose to be more aware of them. So I guess I can't be called a pagan for that reason. I believe there is no higher power than the one God that is the singularity (just the omnipresent All) and that we all work toward becoming one with it. I don't try to convert people to my beliefs though. I just don't like being called a Satanist whenever I make any sort of thread that posits an idea contradictory to Christian ideas.

My experience has shown me that if I try to go against experiences like you have had, or negate them...it is actually like negating part of myself, and will disempower me..

[michael christopher]

My experience has shown me that if I try to go against experiences like you have had, or negate them...it is actually like negating part of myself, and will disempower me..

Yeah, I think I am beyond the point of no return when it comes to belief in spirits. Too many weird things have happened.

[dhama_initiative]

I want to get in touch with spirits, but its not really happen. I meditate and feel peaceful and clear, but no communication, i do feel it guiding me sometimes but i cant make it happen when i want to.

[michael christopher]

I want to get in touch with spirits, but its not really happen. I meditate and feel peaceful and clear, but no communication, i do feel it guiding me sometimes but i cant make it happen when i want to.

Just in your mind speak out loud and see if you start getting spontaneous responses. Spirits speak to most people and yet most people think they are just thinking to themselves. They go with your expectations so if they speak to you, they will sound how you expect them to sound. If you expect them to have your own voice, they will.

Just say, "Hey, higher self. You there?" You don't have to be meditating but you do have to be in a meditative state. So just kind trance out sometime, being in nature helps.

If you can communicate with your higher self you can communicate with other spirits the same way. I would suggest you only listen to your higher self though - it will reflect on what other spirits are saying and guide you through lies, which they have a habit of speaking.

[rhydra]

I don't mind religion, I don't want to be part of theistic religion, I hate it being forced upon me, I don't think anyone really appreciates ideas being forced upon them. Having said that, I do find most Christians are alright, there are a few though, but there are a few in any religion, even without religion who can be a bit... Much. :p

[phildee3]

I don't mind religion, I don't want to be part of theistic religion,



Uhm, is there such a thing as an atheist religion?

[thirdwave]

I communicate with many spirits and feel like they help me all the time, however we have a clear relationship where I do not worship them. I should be clear though, I think all people are helped by these spirits, I just choose to be more aware of them. So I guess I can't be called a pagan for that reason. I believe there is no higher power than the one God that is the singularity (just the omnipresent All) and that we all work toward becoming one with it. I don't try to convert people to my beliefs though. I just don't like being called a Satanist whenever I make any sort of thread that posits an idea contradictory to Christian ideas.

I used to get wound up at smiler things, my new adopted style is to only take in words for what they really mean, and not what they want them to mean..

for example when people say I like Lucifer, I hear it for what they are actually saying which is

"I like the bringer of light"

And yes I do, I love enlightenment and knowledge.

And if they can no longer work out what I am saying, then they need to go and do some more research. :)

[thirdwave]

I want to get in touch with spirits, but its not really happen. I meditate and feel peaceful and clear, but no communication, i do feel it guiding me sometimes but i cant make it happen when i want to.

I know what you mean, I think most of us are not very discipline in our lives and I think that stuff takes lots of focus and concentration and discipline...

many old fashion occult rituals had to be done over months.. that's how long the process was, like most things as time goes on new methods and insights have come to the surface, but I think we are living in times where there is a war going on to shut those senses off, its hard work... and also very easy to be lazy and not care about it..

[michael christopher]

I know what you mean, I think most of us are not very discipline in our lives and I think that stuff takes lots of focus and concentration and discipline...

many old fashion occult rituals had to be done over months.. that's how long the process was, like most things as time goes on new methods and insights have come to the surface, but I think we are living in times where there is was going on to shut those senses off, its hard work... and also very easy to be lazy and not care about it..

I don't know why people think it's so hard. :(

They talk to us all the time. They are the muses, inspiration, they are ideas.

[thirdwave]

I don't know why people think it's so hard. :(

They talk to us all the time. They are the muses, inspiration, they are ideas.

I go through fazes, usually they come to me when im not looking, and when I look they could not be further..

[michael christopher]

I go through fazes, usually they come to me when im not looking, and when I look they could not be further..

The funny thing about spirits is they don't identify themselves since they are really just influencing that part of you that identifies with them. They communicate through the imagination since they are otherwise inconceivable. People just name them out of convenience but in reality the spirits are the feelings/emotions of those spirits.

I do find that they communicate through using synchronistic numbers, which leads me to believe they are intelligent and not just merely emotions. So they have will, identities, etc. but they are just extremely broad and encompassing. I almost feel like it's impossible not to be in constant communion with them. Even those who are apathetic are in touch with the spirit of Discord.

[edelweiss pirate]

Dear Friends
kind regards
Is it ever possible for Michael Christopher to do anything BUT complain about other people's belief systems?
So what if evangelical Christians are on here pushing their beliefs and calling David Icke a Devil?
Do you think that David Icke gives a damn?
Religion is a weapon of The Game used against the Higher Selves, much in the same way that Secularism and New Age ideology is used against Higher Selves.
The Game demands that religion exists and is promoted to both lower evolved Higher Selves and Minions to maintain polarization of the planet.
I used to be a Christian fundamentalist also, but I outgrew it.
There is no point in wanting to rid the World of polarization because The Game IS polarized chaos.
Do you want this nonsense to end in your reality?
I have the answer, learn, evolve and then graduate.
yours thankfully
John


Sounds good.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

I've had the same problems with Muslims and Jews as MC has with Christians.

I can sympathise that he doesn't like being labeled a Satanist demon worshipper etc. I debate the Koran Talmud Judasim Islam more than Christian baggage. So get labeled allsorts of false labels myself. No need to spell them out here, most will know what I mean.

I feel ya man, but if the Slipper Fits, I'm gonna call ya Cinderella. ;)

Vaya Con Yahweh

[eternal_spirit]

I feel ya man, but if the Slipper Fits, I'm gonna call ya Cinderella. ;)

Vaya Con Yahweh
Con being the appropriate word. Obvious you'll never put a cork in it Bubba :D

[thirdwave]

Your moaning is something along the lines of pot calling the kettle black.
You probably attacked the religionists for their beliefs and cried like a baby when they retaliated.



The thing is, what one must do is simply look at the info being put forward.

Are people like me and him attacking it mindlessly, or are we presenting facts and genuine info that shows that there are flaws there?

The latter is true.

for a start, no one really attacks Christians here, this thread is probably the most heat they have ever had.

People here have a go at this lot and that lot.... say the Jews are ruling.. say the Muslims are ruling...

But Its very rare that people have a pop at the Christians, what is usually said is the evidence behind Jesus is a joke, but not that the Christian movement is behind the evil, more that is is a trick.

for a start a Christian would tell you that Z is aimed at attacking their religion when the truth is it attacks them all. On this forum there is far more Christian input than any other, but in the world it is all of them, Yes there is a huge Muslim problem, Yes the Jewish thing is a pain in the arse, they all work as a great team.

Show me where MC is at fault?

If one is gay then why should he not have the right to oppose the bible or a religion that brands them?
If one likes to sleep with more that one person, tell me why he should not oppose it?
If one does not believe in Jesus or feel the holey spirit and is constantly branded lost or lead by Satan here, then why must they not oppose it?

People can say, well I defend the occult and you defend this and there for a hypocrite...I say

RUBBISH, and that very accusation expresses the brainwashing of religion, because it generalises anything outside of it... enough to think that you a, have religion and b, have its enemy. ...no, there is VASTNESS outside of religion, and to brand it is a form of imprisonment.

The occult is a vast and huge space, Pagans can be of all kinds and all creeds... there are no laws there, no judgement, other than on the self and the planet..... so to prosecute and attack such a free thinking and vast movement is fascist..

answer me that.


To express an opinion on something that clearly targets and judges your interests and inspirations and wishes those to suffer in at the feet of the earths end days because of it, is perfectly ok IMO and should be permitted in a free world.

Simple as that... if one does not believe this, then they are not completely convinced by the bible and should tere for not object when people look to expose it.

[clachan]

The fact of the matter is this whole thread was created by MC because he has a resentment against me, (yes folks it's all my fault) that’s all, I don’t let him brow beat me with his usual assaults on the Christian faith, and he cant stand it. I am cleverer, smarter, funnier, wittier and better at insulting him than he is at insulting me, plus I'm much more better looking than him not to mention I'm always right and he is always wrong. And I’m humble too. SO what does he do? He starts a thread to curry support because his demands to moderators that I get banned have not been met. Its just so funny, I mean really it is, it is humorous and childish, is it not?

As a Christian, I have no issue with anyone having a different belief. My issue is when people tell out right blatant lies about the Christian faith with out providing a sceric of evidence to back up these lies, and yet we as Christians are expected to manifest the Lord Jesus Christ himself as proof? It's a double standard which I don’t back down from.

And I have learned to play the game the way it has to be played in here, and I have won.

I’ve gotten under your skins and it sickens you to the eye teeth, why is that, is it because you hate me? No it’s because you are in the world and the world hates the very name of Jesus Christ. My challenge to you all is sit down and really think hard as to where this hatred and I MEAN HATRED is coming from, because there might just be some truth to the words that Christ said, "they will hate you because of me."

I have said this many times before, but this time I am really leaving the forum, it's time for me to move on. Who cares? Probably no one, I’m not asking you too. However there will always be Christians who come to this forum not because they are Christians, but because the are human beings who happen to have a Christian faith, they don’t come to evangelize or proselytize; they come to enjoy the discussions and the topics that we are all interested in. Life! Love, Faith, Hope, Where have we come from? How did we get here? Where are we going?

If you insult a Christian, yes they should probably take it on the chin, I haven’t done that, and yet someone has the audacity to say they have been turned off Christianity because of me, whilst at the same time saying they like the example of other Christians better than me HUH? The thing is you won't be excused on judgment day because I didn’t take shit and gave as good as I got. “But God I rejected Christ because miracles was a smart ass.”

“Tough Shit!” God will say your going down.

God bless you.


Why did I post this to you, Oh yeah what information are you sharing and putting out there and supporting? I havent seen any of it in a year and I have practically begged you for evidence of your claims, you havent ever posted any. Its a talk fest with you. That's all it ever is.

PS:
By the way its the lies and the liars that Ive had a guts full of.

Clachan dont worry about dances with bunnies, its a waste of time, she is the worst form of Christian, the one who walked away from the faith. But God will call her back. She wont get away with that crap for much longer. Oh and DWB, Im leaving this forum because of you. (yeah right!)

I would just like to say that Miracles is one of the only men of principle I have met on this forum,he has often had 5 or 6 at him at once,regardless of your opinion of his religion he has stood his ground and never flinched.
I admire him,he is my friend too..go well mate,best wishes always....Lee

OK, Im happy this thread has calmed down a bit but this needs saying:Why did MC drag his own personal battle of choice with Christians out of the religious section into the general section ? Maybe to broaden the battlefeild into areas where it is not welcome ? To set up a poll to test the water to see if he has enough support to really kick it off ?
If you dont like Christians then dont post in threads were you will find them...simple. But he has gone into that area of the forum with the soul purpose of causing conflict and is now trying to expand it to the rest of the forum.
WHO is ruining the forum by infecting it with personal issues ??
I feel i must say one more time how i came across Micheal Christopher.
He started a thread in the religious section called " Prove Jesus existed",my first post simply said that unless you were in Judea 2000 years ago you could neither prove or dis-prove Jesus lived and breathed.His reply was rude,insulting and disrespectfull....why couldn,t he have met in that no mans land ? I will tell you....he did not want to,he WANTED conflict.
And here we are today...I dont tell lies.

[danceswithbunnies]

Clachan dont worry about dances with bunnies, its a waste of time, she is the worst form of Christian, the one who walked away from the faith. But God will call her back. She wont get away with that crap for much longer. Oh and DWB, Im leaving this forum because of you. (yeah right!)

See this is exactly what i was talking about..this is exactly what Michael is talking about too.

See my thread that you all hijacked about shamanism and witchcraft in the religion thread.

Yes, i walked away from the faith largely because of Christians like you and in fact you did me a huge favor...so thanks there miracles. Because i saw Christianity, the REAL thing demonstrated to me with all its hateful hypocrisy and venomous posts..
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And BTW MICHAEL CHRISTOPHER you are correct about the favoritism for the christians here...they allow them full reign on the religion board, all the venomous spew that went on for months and months..

I live in an area where the christians come to my door at least once a month, i get proselytized when i use the services in the area (doctor, mechanic)..and it is getting on my tits.

[marpat]

Of course not, they just tell you that you are an evil sinner and they alone know what is true :D

[phildee3]

Yes, i walked away from the faith largely because of Christians like you and in fact you did me a huge favor...so thanks there miracles. Because i saw Christianity, the REAL thing demonstrated to me with all its hateful hypocrisy and venomous posts.



I don't think that's what you saw.
I think you saw the hateful hypocrisy and venomous posts of individuals - using a perverted version of Christianity to justify their venom.

Consider it...

[amethyst]

You need to remember the term 'nutters' is purley subjective, according to mainstream thinking 95% of our members would be considered nutters.

So long as you abide by the forum guidelines anybody is welcome to post on the board..

And that is the beauty of the Icke forum.

Give credit to the man for his most magnanimous and generous nature ;)

[stfd]

See this is exactly what i was talking about..this is exactly what Michael is talking about too.

See my thread that you all hijacked about shamanism and witchcraft in the religion thread.

Yes, i walked away from the faith largely because of Christians like you and in fact you did me a huge favor...so thanks there miracles. Because i saw Christianity, the REAL thing demonstrated to me with all its hateful hypocrisy and venomous posts..
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And BTW MICHAEL CHRISTOPHER you are correct about the favoritism for the christians here...they allow them full reign on the religion board, all the venomous spew that went on for months and months..

I live in an area where the christians come to my door at least once a month, i get proselytized when i use the services in the area (doctor, mechanic)..and it is getting on my tits.



Yea some people ( they actually came and knocked at my door and said they were Christians) came and said they bring news of whatever blah blah blah , i listened because i was curious of what they had to say.
Ultimatelly to reveal that they were jehova's whitneses ... and the ywanted me to check out their 'reunion house' ( not church okay ... is reunion house , churches only Christias have). So it told them im not interested, they are like " oh but you should reconsider " im like " no i already have , now please go" they're like oh but what religion are you?" is said " Christian" they responded " we are too " , i'm like " great ! then make the sign of the Cross - the Christian symbol of faith in the name of the Father , the Son and the Holy Spirit" theyre like " oh but were not Catholics " i responded " i'm also not Catholic ... no please remove yourself from my property or i call the cops..."

So they went... and never came back.


See?


Happy ending :)

[amethyst]

I used to get wound up at smiler things, my new adopted style is to only take in words for what they really mean, and not what they want them to mean..

for example when people say I like Lucifer, I hear it for what they are actually saying which is

"I like the bringer of light"

And yes I do, I love enlightenment and knowledge.

And if they can no longer work out what I am saying, then they need to go and do some more research. :)

Well that's a wonderful thing to love enlightenment and knowledge :) IMO

[clachan]

See this is exactly what i was talking about..this is exactly what Michael is talking about too.

See my thread that you all hijacked about shamanism and witchcraft in the religion thread.

Yes, i walked away from the faith largely because of Christians like you and in fact you did me a huge favor...so thanks there miracles. Because i saw Christianity, the REAL thing demonstrated to me with all its hateful hypocrisy and venomous posts..
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And BTW MICHAEL CHRISTOPHER you are correct about the favoritism for the christians here...they allow them full reign on the religion board, all the venomous spew that went on for months and months..

I live in an area where the christians come to my door at least once a month, i get proselytized when i use the services in the area (doctor, mechanic)..and it is getting on my tits.

First off do you really think Micheal christopher enter the religious section with an open and honest heart looking for proof of Christ on earth ??
His intentions are obvious but you,re not likely to acknowledge that are you ?
I did not hyjack your thread,I was involved in your "hobby" for some years and have knowledge of it so made my posts accordingly.Im happy i found the real deal....for me.
MC obviously has a personal issue with Christianity and has used this forum to vent his anger,maybe Miracles doesn,t take kindly to personal insults and just hits back...like i do.


Now,you have lied about me on this thread and all you can do is post a childish picture of Dr Spock because you cant own up to the lie.
Have you any blood relatives in the CIA ??

[clachan]

Of course not, they just tell you that you are an evil sinner and they alone know what is true :D

I like your new avatar marpat,what a nice guy eh ?
Loved his kids didn,t he ?

[itsallinus]

Yea some people ( they actually came and knocked at my door and said they were Christians) came and said (....)

Or you could just tell them you are god whose taken human form as your on vacation, so get down on your knees and worship me.. that should send them packing (you could say your a satanist as that seems to work well).

[miracles]

The Christ is within your heart mate. All else is an illusion.

BTW. My auntie was in the council of ruling nun's and resided within the Vatican, Her job was to oversee all the financial and personal affairs of Europe. Here name was Sister Mary Ursula. Look it up if you care too. You know what, she would never behave the way you are portray yourself. She gained a more worldly view of things and just let them be.

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Would she behave the way you do?

[miracles]

I've had the same problems with Muslims and Jews as MC has with Christians.

I can sympathise that he doesn't like being labeled a Satanist demon worshipper etc. I debate the Koran Talmud Judasim Islam more than Christian baggage. So get labeled allsorts of false labels myself. No need to spell them out here, most will know what I mean.
Its forum with differing opinions people. Get used to it.

[miracles]

I don't know why people think it's so hard. :(

They talk to us all the time. They are the muses, inspiration, they are ideas.


If you have all these "spirits" guiding you and talking to you, then why are you so angry with Christians who are also deeply spiritual, perhaps these spirits are not benevolent spirits. Just a thought.

[miracles]

I would just like to say that Miracles is one of the only men of principle I have met on this forum,he has often had 5 or 6 at him at once,regardless of your opinion of his religion he has stood his ground and never flinched.
I admire him,he is my friend too..go well mate,best wishes always....Lee

OK, Im happy this thread has calmed down a bit but this needs saying:Why did MC drag his own personal battle of choice with Christians out of the religious section into the general section ? Maybe to broaden the battlefeild into areas where it is not welcome ? To set up a poll to test the water to see if he has enough support to really kick it off ?
If you dont like Christians then dont post in threads were you will find them...simple. But he has gone into that area of the forum with the soul purpose of causing conflict and is now trying to expand it to the rest of the forum.
WHO is ruining the forum by infecting it with personal issues ??
I feel i must say one more time how i came across Micheal Christopher.
He started a thread in the religious section called " Prove Jesus existed",my first post simply said that unless you were in Judea 2000 years ago you could neither prove or dis-prove Jesus lived and breathed.His reply was rude,insulting and disrespectfull....why couldn,t he have met in that no mans land ? I will tell you....he did not want to,he WANTED conflict.
And here we are today...I dont tell lies.

Thanks Lee, all the best to you my brother. :)

[miracles]

Of course not, they just tell you that you are an evil sinner and they alone know what is true :D
1Jo 1:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#comm/4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gif1Jo 1:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#comm/5)¶This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gif1Jo 1:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#comm/6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gif1Jo 1:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#comm/7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gif1Jo 1:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#comm/8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gif1Jo 1:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#comm/9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gif1Jo 1:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#comm/10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

[brucel]

tho satanistazzz are trailing behind, they are well within the marjin of error.
im undecided and have yet to cast my vote so which satanista wish to try
and convert me for my vote... ??


im rooting for you guys.


:)

[boots]

Would she behave the way you do?

I am not her we follow different paths and you are not in the same league as her.

Did you not take notice of the Ecumenical movement, where ALL religions come together to discuss and make peace??

You know I still love you:)

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[miracles]

I am not her we follow different paths and you are not in the same league as her.

Did you not take notice of the Ecumenical movement, where ALL religions come together to discuss and make peace??

You know I still love you:)

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The ecumunical movement is sanctioned by the UN and is part of the NWO. How long have you been here and you still dont know this stuff???

[limelady]

Wow! At one point yesterday I thought I was going to have to rant this thread. But I decided to wait, and I'm very glad I did, as I see there has been a dramatic change of attitude form most of the posters here.

Well done people! :D

However, its had its had a good run in general, and I'm now moving it to the religion sub-forum.

[miracles]

This thread was a freaken rant form day one against me and I think it's very unfair that it was even allowed to stay in the general section at all, so why is it being thrown back in here now I wonder?

Just the usual Christian bashing beat up BS, and now when theyve had their fun in the general section, it's thrown back in here. Brilliant!!

Hey ES why dont you start a Muslim's are ruining the forum threads and you all get stuck into them now.

I'm going to start one called "assholes are ruining the forum" Its definately time to go. Bye all.

[stfd]

:D

yea good question, why is this thread in the religion section ?!

[boots]

The ecumunical movement is sanctioned by the UN and is part of the NWO. How long have you been here and you still dont know this stuff???

Hahaha, yeah I know this stuff. There is always two sides to a coin miracle's.

There are battles going on between the good and bad, light and darkness, (them's the label we put on them). The fact is that. It's a meeting of minds. Whether you follow the heart or follow your ego. Thats the point.

Would you rather exist in a world of duality?

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[stfd]

The world is not dualist...

[boots]

:D

yea good question, why is this thread in the religion section ?!

Um because it's about religion.

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[miracles]

Um because it's about religion.

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Right so why was it general for so long whil people wher having arant about Christians???????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????

Can you ask your Aunty what she thinks about hat please???????????????? Let us all know. Or perhaps she is too busy organising the finances to usher in the anit- christ.

[boots]

This thread It was a freaken rant form day one againts me and I think it's very unfare that it was even allowed to stay in the general section at all, so why is it being thrown back in here now I wonder?

Just the usual Christian bashing beat up BS, and now when theyve had their fun in the general section, it's thrown back in here. Brilliant!!

Hey ES why dont you start a Muslim's are ruining the forum threads and you all get stuck into them now.

I'm going to start one called "assholes are ruining the forum" Its definately time to go. Bye all.

There you go, you fell into the trap of duality.

Not very Christ like.

Dont feel hurt about it miracle. It just is. You have let the ego get the better of you.

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[miracles]

There you go, you fell into the trap of duality.

Not very Christ like.

Dont feel hurt about it miracle. It just is. You have let the ego get the better of you.

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No I have let common sense get the better of me. Ive been trapped in lal la la land for way to long and am losing ,my grip on reality.

[limelady]

O.K. This thread is heading down hill again. I think I'll close it off now that everyone has had their say.

:)