Dogtrust calls for compulsory microchip

[lewi]

The animal charity Dogstrust is calling on the Government to make the microchipping of all dogs compulsory.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/Compulsory-Dog-Microchipping-Call/Video/200909215377776?lid=VIDEO_15377776_CompulsoryDogMi crochippingCall&lpos=searchresults

Should it be compulsory ?

[comma berenices]

I have a rescue dog that is not chipped,the vet tried to talk me into getting him chipped,he wasted his time.

We have a german shepherd that is chipped,my husband insisted he was chipped, as he's his dog and made the choice when he was a small pup,so we have one for and one against in our household.

It really should be down to choice.

[windeyaho]

What stalled chipping in the US was the fact that tumors began growing around the chip and resulting in cancer (Verichip). I guess TPTB don't care about that in dogs (and I'm sure it will be brought up for cats also).

Seeing as how the chip can be cut out of the animal and therefore any means of tracking it can be stopped, I would be more in favor of tattooing. In order to get rid of the tattoo, the perp would have to either cut off an ear or do a drastic surgical removal that would be a telltale sign the dog had been tattooed. The incision for a chip removal would simply look like a cut from a rusty piece of barbed wire, no suspicious markings there.

A bit off thread track here:They wanted to chip all the children (what is this constant experimentation on the children in this country -now it's the vaccinations) so as to give their parents assurances that they could be tracked if they were kidnapped or "lost". Most said no thank you, we can keep track of our kids ourselves. Some did it and advocated it because of the "criminal element" out there.

Well, blimey.....where the hell are the parents? If they are afraid of something happening, why aren't they supervising their kids themselves? Oh, have to work luv, can't get a sitter, darling? Then take the little blighter WITH you and if the boss doesn't approve tell him it was this or leaving the poor thing at home alone and you have more responsibility than that. However, if the boss would prefer that you stay at home, with the resultant loss in work load and pay, then you would kindly oblige. Can't do that, need the bloody check? Then find a friend, a relative or a nanny, even a temporary day care center, SOMETHING that insures the kid is safe. Secondly, I would think twice about having kids if they seem to be in the way all the time. You are missing out on most of the best days of their lives and those days will never come back.

Back on track: Chipping animals might be good business for the chippers, but as far as security for the animals, it's a farce.

[delamo1999]

None of my cats are chipped and I am not going to chip any future cats that I may adopt.


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[krakhead]

All my dogs are, but I have no choice, they're all rescues from the Dog's Trust and they chip them automatically.

[christuffer]

Personally, I think there should be a total ban on breeding for a couple of years when there are so many poor unwanted dogs.

There are those that sit on the dole and use dog breeding as a living with no care for the dogs.

[measle_weasel]

No, it should not. If a person wants to chip their "pet", they should be OK being chipped themselves as well. If they are not, they are just hypocrites who set double standards; one for themselves, and another for others. Their words thus hold little to no value on the subject in question, and should be ignored.

[krakhead]

No, it should not. If a person wants to chip their "pet", they should be OK being chipped themselves as well. If they are not, they are just hypocrites who set double standards; one for themselves, and another for others. Their words thus hold little to no value on the subject in question, and should be ignored.

Not necessarily, if I get lost, I can tell someone where I'm from, my dogs can't.

[lewi]

(and I'm sure it will be brought up for cats also).





Last summer, though an initiative supported by the Winn Feline Foundation, nearly 52,000 cats were micrcochipped and enrolled in the HomeAgain Pet Recovery System.

http://www.stevedalepetworld.com/print-archive/tribune-media-services/weekly-features/411-its-a-win-winn-microchip-your-cat-you-will-help-all-cats
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[bluegrazz]

Iwill never willingly chip mt dog.

If they want to come try and Chip my Pit Bull (a Monster) or German Shepard (another Monster) they can come and try- BUT to make things fair I am not going to allow them to use tranquilizers (they can come onto my land and try to do it with their bare hands or I will view this as an assault on my family)

If they want to try with their bare hands , I wont stop them- I will actually Pop some popcorn and pull up a chair- If they are on MY LAND, my dog has the legal right to protect himself and once he latches on the other dogs jump in- I am not getting involved.

This stuff pisses me off.

[beldazar]

No my dog will NOT get a chip!! :mad:

[rixxmixxhell]

The only animals i have had tracking devices on are Birds of prey and 2 very special monitor lizards.

The reason is to enable them to be found when they went AWOL. Dangerous animals as large monitors WILL eat your cats and small dogs. Need i say more about Russian Steep Eagles?? Bye bye Cat also, so it's important to have them trackable.

But, these aren't under the skin they are attached to the guides and removed when they aren't out, or leathers so i guess it don't count.

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The chip is nefarious for Joe public animals.

It's about control

Money revenue

Fines

Database

More silent oppression

Taxes will cover the cost, but you will still ave to pay - day light robbery.

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+ from animal science conferences its known the chips still in use cause skin problems, some have caused tumors...some have been perfectly fine. But this is the issue, they are not completely safe. (Depends on the type)

Too many dogs are breed and sold when their are thousands in homes hundreds put down every week in the U.K.

If you have working dogs there are alternatives so you don't lose your kennel (home groups) or pack (wild) depending on their use. If you are using them in areas where lion, such as mountain lion may be, or similar threats thorough training is more suitable as these trackers cost lots!

So we have economic factors too regarding control vs safety issues.

It's slightly different such as Horses and animals at risk from abduction.

From the point of view of disarming the public, they have a function for the Goverbent - as for animals used to hunt other animals that have over taken foreign ecologies such as Ferrets accidentally released on islands where rare ground nesting birds have lived with no natural predators, ferreting these animals with other animals need tracking as they disappear down holes for long periods and they need to be caught.

So yes tracking is required where its needed, but for homestead animals it has totally separate functions.

But again, working animals, conservation projects to stop poachers or priceless breeds might warrant a form of tracking, but chipping simply isn't safe.

It's important to know how many animals are living for prosperity in my opinion - CITES is very important data. Without it we would be blind as to the status of species.

Lots of inconsiderate breeding for money - the pet sector is a large one, large revenues and the government want to tighten the freedom we have to keep animals.

Registering a dog i think is now compulsory, and to travel a pet passport is still accepted for most animals. Having a pet passport means it's been registered.

It's a hard area where emotions run and opinions split because of our attachments to our animals, but selfish needs can sometimes cause harm...the gene pool of the K9 is very healthy, but neglecting them due to their obvious large numbers has been our fault alone.

Cons out weigh the pros for pets.

Don't let your pets be chipped if you feel they are seen as a risk by the Goverbent. They can just take them away. Give it all the ''they have no right to come on my land''. They will take them, vets are corrupted just like doctors, they'll use every trick in the very large book. I've witnessed it myself. Naivety gets you nowhere.

As Krakhead said, they are chipped automatically as rescues. And if they get lost, you can be reunited with them and not left to a horrid realization that you will never each other again. You have the right to chip/track your animals if you feel it's for safety and can make these decisions yourself. As i did for dangerous wild animals. This obviously is different for each persons circumstance.

Some animals simply do not know whats best for them, you have to decide.


Sorry for rambling.

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I once tried to get my mother chipped does this count :o:D

[gilly]

Tyler wouldn't have got his beloved dog back the other week if it hadn't been chipped.

[rixxmixxhell]

Precisely - it's not a one sided argument. Too many factors surround this issue that can't be prepared to suit all animal owners.

It's something i worry over more than not when discussion this on a professional level within the industry.

Just because the government demand something doesn't mean its simply no for the sake of it if you get my meaning.

Well, do what you feel best, and know that your decisions should be made on functional basis with the safety of your animals as the deciding factor.

Rick

[lauren_almighty]

One of my cats is chipped because I got her from a cattery and they chip all cats.
I wouldn't have any of my pets chipped. If I had children I wouldn't let them get chipped so why would I let my animals get chipped. It looks painful too.

[element]

Not necessarily, if I get lost, I can tell someone where I'm from, my dogs can't.
Always love your common sense, Krak. :D

It should be the owner's choice..
I can't imagine I would let my pets be chipped though.

[krakhead]

Always love your common sense, Krak. :D

It should be the owner's choice..
I can't imagine I would let my pets be chipped though.

Thank you - although, in all honesty, that was a paraphrase of a poster at my vets :o :D