PDA

View Full Version : John Pilger - The War On Democracy


synergy777
21-08-2007, 01:03 PM
I WAS GOING TO POST THIS YESTERDAY, BUT I WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY WERE AWARE OF THE POLITICAL SIDE TO THIS AND NOT JUST THE ICKE/CONSPIRACY ANGLE. IT SEEMS WE NEED TO EVOLVE AND USE TANGIBLE EVIDENCE EG POLITICAL ACTIVITIES/LEGISLATION TO ADD CREDIBILITY. JOHN PILGER ON CELLUOID, COMMUNICATED A CONSPIRACY CATHARISIS TO THE WORLD, IN A CONCISE, CLEAR AND CONFIDENT MANNER. WE ARE RIGHT, WHAT WE KNOW IS HAPPENING AND IS ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE INFORMED, WHAT WE DO NEXT, IS THE CRUCIAL PART.

http://www.johnpilger.com/

John Pilger - The War On Democracy

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2836380690124302202&q=john+pilger&total=145&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=9


COLLECTION OF WONDERFUL DOCO'S.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=john+pilger


THE ENDING OF THE FILM, COMPLETELY VINDICATES US.


http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=407

30 Aug 2006

John Pilger reaches behind the news of war and suffering and is inspired by the rise of popular resistance throughout the world: from Lebanon to Latin America, to an unprecedented level of political awareness in Britain.

Here in the west, we have much to learn from resistance movements in dangerous places and their tactics of informed direct action.

In researching a new film, I have been watching documentary archive from the 1980s, the era of Ronald Reagan and his “secret war” against Central America. What is striking is the relentless lying. A department of lying was set up under Reagan with the coy name, “office of public diplomacy”. Its purpose was to dispense “white” and “black” propaganda – lies – and to smear journalists who told the truth. Almost everything Reagan himself said on the subject was false. Time and again, he warned Americans of an “imminent threat” from the tiny impoverished nations that occupy the isthmus between the two continents of the western hemisphere. “Central America is too close and its strategic stakes are too high for us to ignore the danger of governments seizing power with military ties to the Soviet Union,” he said. Nicaragua was “a Soviet base” and “communism is about to take over the Caribbean”. The United States, said the president, “is engaged in a war on terrorism, a war for freedom”.

How familiar it all sounds. Merely replace Soviet Union and communism with al-Qaeda, and you are up to date. And it was all a fantasy. The Soviet Union had no bases in or designs on Central America; on the contrary, the Soviets were adamant in turning down appeals for their aid. The comic strips of “missile storage depots” that American officials presented to the United Nations were precursors to the lies told by Colin Powell in his infamous promotion of Iraq’s non-existent weapons of mass destruction at the Security Council in 2003.

Whereas Powell’s lies paved the way for the invasion of Iraq and the violent death of at least 100,000 people, Reagan’s lies disguised his onslaught on Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala. By the end of his two terms, 300,000 people were dead. In Guatemala, his proxies – armed and tutored in torture by the CIA – were described by the UN as perpetrators of genocide. There is one major difference today. That is the level of awareness among people everywhere of the true purpose of Bush and Blair’s “war on terror” and the scale and diversity of the popular resistance to it. In Reagan’s day, the notion that presidents and prime ministers lied as deliberate, calculated acts was considered exotic; Nixon’s Watergate lies were said to be shocking because presidents did not lie outright.

Almost no one believes that any more. In Britain, thanks to Blair, a sea-change in public attitudes has taken place. No less than 80 per cent regard him as a liar; 82 per cent believe his warmongering was a principal cause of the London bombings; 72 per cent believe he has made this country a target. No modern prime minister has been the object of such informed opprobrium. In addition, a majority remain sceptical about the veracity of a “plot” to blow up aircraft flying from Heathrow. The recent, thuggish self-promotion of the Home Secretary (Interior Minister) John Reid is rejected by a clear majority, along with the media-promotion of Treasurer Gordon Brown as the man who brought economic prosperity to Britain while acting as paymaster for various imperial adventures. More than three-quarters of the population believe Brown and Blair have merely made the rich richer (YouGov and Guardian/ICM).

In my experience, this critical public intelligence and moral sense have always been ahead of those who claim to speak for the public. What Vandana Shiva calls an “insurrection of subjugated knowledge” is on the rise in Britain and across the world, perhaps as never before, thanks to a revived internationalism aided by new technologies. Whereas Reagan could get away with many of his lies, Bush and Blair cannot. People know too much. And there is the presence of history; no imperial power has been able to sustain three simultaneous colonial wars indefinitely. That is already true of the United States and Britain in Afghanistan, where the “democratic” puppet regime is in predictable trouble and the besieged British army is having to call in American bombers, which, on 26 August, killed 13 fleeing civilians, including nine children, a common atrocity.

In Iraq, in contrast to the embedded lie that the killings are now almost entirely sectarian, 70 per cent of the 1,666 bombs exploded by the resistance in July were directed against the American occupiers and 20 per cent against the puppet police force. Civilian casualties amounted to 10 per cent. In other words, unlike the collective punishment meted out by the US, such as the killing of several thousand people in Fallujah, the resistance is fighting basically a military war and it is winning. That truth is suppressed, as it was in Vietnam.

In Lebanon, the pattern continues. An armed resistance a few thousand strong has humbled the fifth-most powerful army in the world, which is supplied and backed by the superpower. That much we know. What is not known is the extraordinary and decisive part played by the unarmed people of southern Lebanon. Reported as a trail of victims, the spectacle of people heading back to their homes was an epic act of defiance and resistance. On 13 August, as the Israeli army advanced in southern Lebanon, they warned people not to return to their homes. This was defied almost to a man, woman and child, who abandoned the refugee centres and headed south, jamming the roads and flashing victory signs.

An eyewitness, Simon Assaf, described “gangs of local men along the route clearing paths by dragging away the piles of electrical cable, rubble and twisted metal that littered the highway. A new stream of cars would rapidly form through every breach in the rubble. There were no army or police... it was the locals who directed traffic, guided cars past dangerous craters and pushed buses up dirt tracks around collapsed bridges. As they neared their homes, the refugees would form great processions. Town after town, village after village was reclaimed. Powerless to confront this human wave, the Israelis abandoned their positions and began fleeing to the border. This flood of people emerged out of an unprecedented mass movement that grew up across the country as the bombs rained down.”

The Lebanese resistance, armed and unarmed, is from the same wellspring as other movements throughout the world. Each has learned to put aside its sectarian differences in the face of a common enemy – rampant empire and its proxies. In Bolivia, Latin America’s poorest country, the first government of indigenous people since their enslavement by Spain was elected by a landslide this year, after hundreds of thousands of unarmed campesinos and former miners faced the guns of an army sent by the oligarchic dictator, Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada. Marching on

La Paz, the capital, they forced him to flee to the United States, where he had sent his millions. This followed a mass resistance to the privatising of the water supply of Cochabamba, Bolivia’s second city, and its takeover by a consortium dominated by the mighty Bechtel company. Now Bechtel, too, has been forced to flee.

Throughout Latin America, mass resistance movements have grown so fast that they now overshadow traditional parties. In Venezuela, they provide the popular support for the reforms of Hugo Chávez. Having emerged spontaneously in 1989 during the Caracazo, an eruption of political rage against Venezuela’s subservience to the free-market demands of the IMF and World Bank, they have provided the imagination and dynamism with which the Chávez government is attacking the scourge of poverty.

Here in the west, as people abandon the political parties they once thought were theirs, there is much to learn from resistance movements in dangerous places and their tactics of informed direct action. We have our own examples in Britain, such as the achievements of the growing resistance to Blair and Brown’s privatising of the National Health Service by stealth. An American giant, United Health Europe, has been prevented from taking control of GP (local medical) services in Derbyshire, after the community was not consulted and fought back. Pat Smith, a pensioner, took the case to court and won. “This shows what people power can do,” she said, as if speaking for millions.

There is no difference in principle between Pat Smith’s campaign of resistance and that of the people of Cochabamba who refused to pay almost half their income to an American company for their water. There is no difference in principle between the people’s movement that saw off the Israeli invaders and the stirring of people everywhere as they become aware of the real meaning of the ambitions and hypocrisy of Bush and his vassal, who want us to be ever fearful of and cowed by “terrorism” when, in truth, the greatest terrorists of all are them.

dondaz
21-08-2007, 02:48 PM
Good thread synergy.

John Pilger is a don. He's made some good documentaries over the years.

Looking for the complete film.

lookfar
21-08-2007, 03:47 PM
Thanks for the info synergy, I was talking to Lottie about him this morning!!:)

lumukanda
21-08-2007, 03:59 PM
i've been reading pilger for ages, i recently found a copy of one of his books (the name eludes me now) about what really happened in australia re. the aboriginal people there, pretty eye opening stuff.

lydia78
21-08-2007, 04:02 PM
Ahhh brilliant synergy,

Just tried to find this documentary after reading a different thread on J Pilger, couldn't find it, seems to be that the essential 'THE (war on democracy)' is needed in order to manifest the vid.....so cheers, much appreciated!!

soglad
21-08-2007, 04:04 PM
Shouldn't have called it the "war" on democracy. Last thing we need is another war.

Should be the rejection of democracy or something...:)

moonoodoo
21-08-2007, 04:59 PM
Here is another link to the film.

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_intelligence.htm

Another excellent documentary by a remarkable man.

Shouldn't have called it the "war" on democracy. Last thing we need is another war.

Should be the rejection of democracy or something...:)

Perhaps it's DEMOCRACY (tm)

synergy777
21-08-2007, 05:24 PM
COLLECTION OF WONDERFUL DOCO'S.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=john+pilger

this link has most of his previous work/docus etc. also can anyone find a link to the whole thing, i'm not sure if itv are going to repeat it.

power to the people.

THE PEOPLES UNITED COLLECTIVE (TPUC)
http://www.tpuc.org/

ACTION TO STOP NEW EU CONSTITUTION. Please log on to our sister site www.socfund.co.uk A campaign to raise the funds needed to force a declaration for judicial review on the legitimacy of what the Government is intending to impose on the nation.

Welcome to PowerToThePeople.org.uk, an independent democratic accountability website designed to empower you to hold those in power to account.
http://www.powertothepeople.org.uk/

STOP THE WAR
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance
MUJCA-NET is a group of scholars, religious leaders and activists dedicated to uniting members of the Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths in pursuit of 9/11 truth. We believe that the process of joining together in search of the truth about 9/11 will bring enormous benefits, regardless of what truths we may discover. While our endorsers and supporters have different views about the probable level of US government complicity in 9/11, all of us agree that a new, honest investigation of the possibility of official complicity is a matter of the most urgent national and global importance.
http://www.mujca.com/


http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/


NETUREI KARTA AROUND THE WORLD
http://www.nkusa.org/

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/20070609.cfm
Protest in Trafalgar Square, London
June 9, 2007

Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews and supporters of the Neturei Karta in the U.K. joined in a demonstration held in Trafalgar Square, London protesting the "state" of Israel, it's atrocities and oppression for over half a century

With G-d's Help, A Saloom Aleikem.

In the name of Torah Jewry throughout the whole word we declare our solidarity and sympathy with the Palestinian people.

Torah Jewry decries and condemns the Zionist oppression and subjugation of innocent people and the brutal theft of their land. It has been forty long years since the occupation of Jerusalem and fifty-nine since the taking of the entire Palestine.

Torah-Jewry declares:

The Zionists who have discarded G-d and His Torah have no right to speak in the name of world-wide Jewry. They have usurped the name of "Israel" and thereby misrepresent the true Jewish people.

Torah-true Jews have never recognized the Zionist state, and never will!

We challenge the G-dless Zionists:

Why do you rebel against G-d Who sent us in exile and has forbidden us to return and to establish a state? You disgrace the name of the Jewish people! Torah-Jewry, faithful children of the one G-d, accepts His decrees and will not try to escape them by force.

We firmly believe that revolt against G-d, evil and oppression of innocent people, will never succeed! The Zionist entity cannot endure.

We hope and pray for a quick and peaceful dismantling of the Zionist state. We hope to live together in peace in the Holy Land under a Palestinian rulership of the entire land.

Ultimately we pray for the revelation of the glory of the Almighty when all humanity will serve Him together in harmony. Amen.

A Saloom Aleichem

Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists
Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm

SEE ALL THE PEOPLE ARE UNITING, ONE LOVE.


The Art Of War For The Anti-War Movement
By Scott Ritter
01 April, 2006
Alternet

http://www.countercurrents.org/us-ritter010406.htm

The anti-war movement, first and foremost, needs to develop a laser-like focus on being nothing more or less than anti-war.

The anti-war movement lacks any notion of strategic thinking, operational planning, or sense of sound tactics. So much energy is wasted because of this failure to centrally plan and organize. As a result, when the anti-war movement does get it right (and on occasion it does), the success is frittered away by a failure to have planned effective follow-up efforts, failure to have implemented any supporting operations, an inability to recognize opportunities as they emerge and a lack of resources to exploit such opportunities if in fact they were recognized to begin with. In short, the anti-war movement is little more than a walk-on squad of high school football players drawing plays in the sand, taking on the National Football League Super Bowl Champions.

In order to even have a chance of prevailing with the American people, the anti-war movement is going to need much more than just good ideals and values. It needs to start thinking like a warrior would, in full recognition that we as a nation are engaged in a life-or-death struggle of competing ideologies with those who promote war as an American value and virtue.

The anti-war movement needs to study the philosophies of those who have mastered the art of conflict, from Caesar to Napoleon, from Sun Tzu to Clausewitz. It needs to study the "enemy" learning to understand the pro-war movement as well as it understands itself. It needs to comprehend the art of campaigning, of waging battles only when necessary, and having the ability to wage a struggle on several fronts simultaneously, synchronizing each struggle so that a synergy is created which maximizes whatever energy is being expended. The anti-war movement needs to understand the pro-war movement's center of gravity, and design measures to defeat this. It needs to grasp the pro-war movement's decision-making cycle, then undertake a comprehensive course of action that learns to pre-empt this cycle, getting 'inside' the pro-war system of making decisions, and thereby forcing the pro-war movement to react to the anti-war agenda, instead of vice versa.

There is an old adage in the military that “intelligence drives operations.” The anti-war movement needs to develop a centralized intelligence operation, not a spy organization, but rather a think-tank that produces sound analysis based upon fact that can be used to empower those who are waging the struggle against war. Far too often the anti-war movement dilutes its effectiveness by either being unable to produce facts during a debate, or when it does, producing facts that are inaccurate, incomplete, or both. The mainstream media treats the anti-war movement as a joke because many times that is exactly what the anti-war movement, through its lack of preparation and grasp of the facts, allows itself to become.

The anti-war movement lacks organization. There is no central leadership, or mechanism to effectively muster and control resources. The anti-war movement takes pride in its “democratic” composition, but in fact it operates as little more than controlled chaos, creating ample opportunity for the pro-war movement to effectively execute a “divide and conquer” strategy to minimize and nullify whatever good the anti-war movement achieves through its efforts. The anti-war movement would do well to take a page from the fire service and implement a version of the Incident Command System (ICS) that firefighters use when fighting complex fires involving the integration of several departments, organizations and jurisdictions. The anti-war movement needs to develop its own “ICS for the anti-war” that is universally applied throughout the movement, so that an anti-war effort in Seattle, Washington operates the same as an anti-war effort in New York City, and as such can be coordinated and controlled by an overall command staff operating from Denver, Colorado.

lydia78
21-08-2007, 05:25 PM
Here is another link to the film.

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_intelligence.htm

Another excellent documentary by a remarkable man.



Perhaps it's DEMOCRACY (tm)


Again, Brilliant....thanks for the link!! shall be going into 'favorites' me thinks.

ambersky
21-08-2007, 05:30 PM
Saw this film 'War on Democracy' a couple of months back, was showing in local cinemas in London.

Really excellent.

Shows a real example of a real democracy, with president Chavez in Venezuela.

I met John Pilger a few years ago when he showed a film and answered questions afterwards in Camden, London.

Afterwards, he just walked out and got a tube home. No airs and graces, just an ordinary bloke.

I've been reading his articles since I was around 6 years old, he reported on the Vietman war back then. Does journalism like I believe journalism should be done. Showing us what's really going on in this world.

Brilliant documentaries, brilliant books. Watch them. Read them.

randyt
21-08-2007, 05:34 PM
Superb recommendation for viewing Synergy777.
I collect educational documentaries so I will certainly wait for the DVD to come out, or till I find it on the Internet. I don't live in the UK (..and I don't watch television) so again Thanks!

I can recommend two more documentaries by John Pilger:

John Pilger - Breaking the silence
http://www.veoh.com/videos/e164789jm27pTAG?searchId=946857493592250608&rank=1
ITV presents Breaking the Silence, a documentary showing the truth and lies of the American/British invasion and occupation of Iraq.

John Pilger - The new rulers of the world
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1995956C9E8TqK?searchId=946857493592250608&rank=2
John Pilger, possibly the only decent British journalist exposes Globalism for what it is.



Randy

synergy777
21-08-2007, 06:03 PM
cheers bro, its all coming along now, people are awakening, informing and uniting.

randyt
21-08-2007, 06:27 PM
Hi Synergy777,

Don't let my first name fool you - I'm a female so it would have to be "sis". ;)
My second name is Jennifer and a while ago I seriously considered to use that as a 1st. :) (..because of the confusion with Randy being a unisex name)

grtz,
Randy

synergy777
21-08-2007, 06:47 PM
cool, everybody got an agenda, a false face, lol only joking .

randyt
21-08-2007, 06:57 PM
...and to make matters worse I'm from another planet too! :):):) LOL

grtz,
Randy

stickwhistler
21-08-2007, 07:10 PM
Good thread synergy.

John Pilger is a don. He's made some good documentaries over the years.

Looking for the complete film.

Quite good documentary videos here,

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_cover-ups.htm

may even be the one you're looking for :D

synergy777
21-08-2007, 07:15 PM
http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_cover-ups.htm

John Pilger - The War on Democracy (2007)

This film explores Washington's relationship with countries such as Venezuela, Bolivia and Chile. It examines the theme of disenchantment with democracy, concentrating on those parts of the world where people have struggled with blood, sweat and tears to plant democracy, only to see it brutally crushed. Archive footage demonstrates how democracy has been wiped out in country after country in Latin America since the 1950s

nice 1 bro, welcome to the forum.

synergy777
22-08-2007, 12:09 AM
xdnax - cheers bro

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8143

synergy777
22-08-2007, 12:37 PM
George W. Bush and Black Holes!

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=656

George W. Bush and Black Holes!
By Reggie, Contributing Editor, TvNewsLIES.org

Most of us don’t know a helluva lot about black holes, and probably don’t really care to know very much about them. But in truth, black holes are really fascinating once you take a closer look…even to a lay person with not much background. Trust me on that for a bit.

For starters, what I do know is that a black hole is an area out in space that’s so huge that its gravitational pull is astounding. So, astounding, in fact, that nothing, absolutely nothing that gets close can escape being sucked into it. That means everything, no matter how massive, would be able to escape its pull and nothing we know could move fast enough to draw away from its gravitational power. Not even a beam of light.

Stay with me here and you’ll see where I going.

One more interesting bit: According to Einstein, objects of very great mass distort time and space so that the usual rules of geometry just can’t be used to explain their behavior. So, when it comes to a black hole, something strange happens. It has a boundary that’s very unusual. If you reached that boundary, you could pass through it, but you would not be able to back out. In fact, once you’ve passed through the boundary you’d be doomed to move closer and closer to the center of the black hole.

And then it would only be a very short time until you die.

Now, that’s all fairly interesting, but why would I want to write about black holes at all? Stay with me just a little bit longer, I promise to connect.

For the record, and just in case you do happen to get pulled into a black hole, rest assured that you wouldn’t really feel anything terribly unusual at first. If the hole was a really big one, you wouldn’t be torn apart until you were about half a million kilometers from the center. Imagine that. Even as you were being pulled towards certain doom you might not suspect that anything was terribly wrong.

I suppose, when it comes it black holes, in a way, bigger is better.

And in a way, a really big black hole has formed right here on earth, and right here in the good old USA. And in a most precarious way, we all are dangerously close to the boundary from which there is no return. For in an undeniable and almost inevitable way there is a direct nexus between a barely discernible black hole in our own land and the reign of George W. Bush.

For the sake of simplicity, let’s call it the Bush Black Hole and understand that we can’t see into its abyss because black holes are devoid of light. But if we take a look around, we become painfully aware of the things that have disappeared from our lives in the past seven years, never ever to be seen again. Some vanished in secret while others were tossed into the chasm with arrogant disregard of all that we once were as a nation.

No matter how it came to pass, so much of value has crossed a mysterious boundary into the oblivion of the Bush Black Hole. Tragically, much of what has disappeared has not yet been missed by so many Americans. They don’t have a clue that so much that was so vital to their lives has been hauled forever into the bowels of this administration.

So many Americans are still unaware that the Bush Black Hole contains the dismembered remains of:

• Elections free of Supreme Court interference
• Congressional oversight
• Separation of church and state
• An impartial investigation of the events of 9/11
• Checks and balances
• The right of dissent without fear
• The Fourth Amendment
• Habeas corpus
• A responsible White House Press Corps
• Respect of the US by people around the world
• New Orleans
• Protection of covert CIA operatives
• Respect for international treaties
• Rejection of pre-emptive or preventive war
• The Geneva Conventions
• International Law
• Truth and integrity in government
• Diplomacy and cooperation with other nations
• Investigative reporting by mainstream media
• Environmental protections
• The FISA Court
• Nuclear disarmament and non proliferation
• An overburdened and under equipped military
• Almost four thousand American and coalition troops
• Hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Afghanis
• Fiscal responsibility
• America’s middle class
• Health care for all children
• A nation free of PNAC control
• Democracy

And that, as the saying goes, is the short list. But not to worry, there’s lots of room in the Bush Black Hole for more. Black holes are notoriously immense and George W. Bush, with his dreams of empire, has more time to carry out his goals than you might think.

A recent Presidential Directive has given the Bush administration full power to transfer control of this nation from the Congress and place it into the hands of the White House. Another such directive gives this President the right to declare martial law when and if he deems it necessary. Every day the drums of war beat more loudly for an attack against the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran. Do the math.

Then try to assess just how close we all are to the boundary that separates us from the Bush Black Hole. We already have lost so much that is totally irretrievable. If we endure as a free nation and as a free people we might recreate what we have lost one day in the future. But right now we are in a fight for survival.

Understand that it is possible to enter a black hole with no sensation of the destructive force about to be encountered. Passing the boundary can be relatively uneventful and temporarily comfortable. But once over the line there is no way to retreat, and the fate of all who pass the boundary is forever sealed.

And so it has come to pass in the Bush administration that they have acted with impunity and hubris in a terrorized nation and an intimidated world. The have not been stopped nor will anyone stop them any time soon. And, like the children who followed the Pied Piper to the river, so many Americans are walking willingly towards the Black Hole that George Bush has created.

The choice, then, is clear. We can work to make others aware of the dangers they still do not see. We can direct others to the truth of what has happened and shake them out of their passivity and blindness. Or, as happens to so many bodies in space that unwittingly find themselves heading directly towards the boundaries from which they will never escape, we can just do nothing but sit back and enjoy the ride.

August 21st, 2007
Categories: Politics, George W. Bush, Reggie's thoughts . Author: Reggie