You've Got Mail (that you don't want)

[bsmurph83]

I'm interested in peoples' thoughts on receiving mail, particularly an enforcement order notice from a magistrate's court.

I've managed to drag this out for 9 months already, and if I can make it another 15 weeks, the Statute of Limitations kicks in and they have to let it drop (traffic infringements).

My question is: what are peoples' thoughts on marking the mail with 'Person Has Moved' or 'Person Moved Interstate'? They have to let it drop if you move interstate. Since it's all fiction anyway and the person isn't real, but dead, what do people think? It might dissuade them from further pursuit? How could they prove it was me who returned the mail marked like that and not someone else?

Alternatively, I suppose I could legitimately mark it 'Incorrectly Addressed', but am interested in opinions on the former option... Buy some time?

Followup question is: If they set a court date for a hearing before the 15 weeks is up but the hearing DOESN'T occur within that 15 weeks, can they still pursue it? Am I screwed if they DO set a date in the next 15 weeks? (Oddly, they don't mention a hearing, only an enforcement warrant)

Thirdly, if I HAVE moved interstate and they then set a date for a hearing, anyone know what happens?

The cutoff time on this enforcement notice is SEP 17th, which means basically they'd have 15 weeks from there to extract the money from me before Stat Lim kicks in. BUT - the notice states a warrant will be issued against me for enforcement - does the warrant have to be carried out before Stat Lim deadline or it dies in the arse?

I think there's a decent chance of making it the final 15 weeks without the Sheriff showing up on the doorstep, as I imagine they are swamped with this shit and can't physically follow it all up.

WE DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR LATELY ANYWAY! :D

Thoughts gratefully received. :)

[rjl9332]

Hi, the enforcement order notice that comes a bit after notice of further steps does it not?

Thats where I am now after an extended series of letters going back and forth between the DVLA and my person, they've been after an out of court settlement for no tax on my car since feb.

I got something from the antiterrorist which can be put in the envelope from the court, sealed up, and sent back using their postage - paid return to sender, And have pasted below. Where you've got the blank passage fill in as you please - perhaps something along the lines of 'an offer to contract' - seems right?

Anyway, a discussion of what this action may entail seems a good idea. It is similar in principle to what John Harris does (no contract, return to sender). In this way there is no assumption/presumption of a contract being formed.

Document follows.
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These enclosed documents were inadvertently received, and opened by mistake. These enclosed document(s), which appear to be________________________________________________ ____, are not understandable, acknowledgeable or recognizable under the penalty of False Personation must be returned.

The enclosure herein contains the aforementioned and misdirected documents; as there is not enough knowledge or information disclosed to form a responsive answer, said documents are being returned forthwith.


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Let me know your feelings on this one chaps. Its all about lawful rebellion - this fits nicely with me!

[bsmurph83]

interesting! thanks for the input, rjl.

i guess i can try that or simply ignore them altogether and hope Stat of Lim's kicks in before they can collect.

interested to see others' thoughts on this approach...

[nameless]

Have just read this thread; thanks for the link, bsmurph83.

The cutoff time on this enforcement notice is SEP 17th

Would be interested to hear if there is a follow up to this yet.

[disorder2k8]

I'm interested in peoples' thoughts on receiving mail, particularly an enforcement order notice from a magistrate's court.

I've managed to drag this out for 9 months already, and if I can make it another 15 weeks, the Statute of Limitations kicks in and they have to let it drop (traffic infringements).

My question is: what are peoples' thoughts on marking the mail with 'Person Has Moved' or 'Person Moved Interstate'? They have to let it drop if you move interstate. Since it's all fiction anyway and the person isn't real, but dead, what do people think? It might dissuade them from further pursuit? How could they prove it was me who returned the mail marked like that and not someone else?

Alternatively, I suppose I could legitimately mark it 'Incorrectly Addressed', but am interested in opinions on the former option... Buy some time?

Followup question is: If they set a court date for a hearing before the 15 weeks is up but the hearing DOESN'T occur within that 15 weeks, can they still pursue it? Am I screwed if they DO set a date in the next 15 weeks? (Oddly, they don't mention a hearing, only an enforcement warrant)

Thirdly, if I HAVE moved interstate and they then set a date for a hearing, anyone know what happens?

The cutoff time on this enforcement notice is SEP 17th, which means basically they'd have 15 weeks from there to extract the money from me before Stat Lim kicks in. BUT - the notice states a warrant will be issued against me for enforcement - does the warrant have to be carried out before Stat Lim deadline or it dies in the arse?

I think there's a decent chance of making it the final 15 weeks without the Sheriff showing up on the doorstep, as I imagine they are swamped with this shit and can't physically follow it all up.

WE DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR LATELY ANYWAY! :D

Thoughts gratefully received. :)

forward it to an address that doesnt exist, or that does exist but the residents dont know you, they will just return it to sender

or forward it to a P.O box or something, but i think they cost money.