Judge orders trial on (Obama) eligibility issue

[rodin]

A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

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http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=405892

[martg]

Great news, I wonder what it means by 'tentatively', surely he either scheduled a trial or didn't. :confused:

[take it easy]

Top news, just imagining him following the freeman path

"I am Barack of the Obama family and i wave all benefits and realease the court from its duty to perfom"

[secret66mechanism]

A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/babyfootprint200.jpg

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=405892

should'nt that date be sooner rather than later, it would be #1 on my serious to do list:confused:

[smoke n mirrors]

Top news, just imagining him following the freeman path

"I am Barack of the Obama family and i wave all benefits and realease the court from its duty to perfom"

I think taking the oath of office, makes that a little difficult as he has clearly consented. Misrepresentation and causing harm to others, would also render him liable.

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[ozpixie]

If it actually does get to a hearing any one of the following is possible, the judge:
might find himself in the front carriage of a train that collides at peak hour;
he might have a sudden and unexpected heart attack;
he might be found with a single shot to the back of the head with a suicide note;
he might resign for 'family reasons'; or
he might be found in the woods with slit writs and a knife with no fingerprints

Who knows what might happen in this crazy, mixed-up kind of world we live in?

[hadabusa]

If it actually does get to a hearing any one of the following is possible, the judge:
might find himself in the front carriage of a train that collides at peak hour;
he might have a sudden and unexpected heart attack;
he might be found with a single shot to the back of the head with a suicide note;
he might resign for 'family reasons'; or
he might be found in the woods with slit writs and a knife with no fingerprints

Who knows what might happen in this crazy, mixed-up kind of world we live in?

well,no.

id say it smells like obama 0 has been set up to fail.

s66m, court takes its time because theyve got him,imo.

lol, can obama veto the ruling?
he could also declare martial law.he alone.

this could be a nasty setup
:confused:

[kappy0405]

"tentatively" - meaning hahaha yeah right. :cool:

[ozpixie]

well,no.

id say it smells like obama 0 has been set up to fail.

s66m, court takes its time because theyve got him,imo.

lol, can obama veto the ruling?
he could also declare martial law.he alone.

this could be a nasty setup
:confused:


I guess time will tell :)

[creamfields usa]

The judge should resign.

[hadabusa]

The judge should resign.
maybe he will be resigned.


you mean , drop the charges?

obama 0 had enough time to forge everything by now.

kinda like the fed will be clean,once audited.

[mynameis]

Looks like his stupidity and lack of evidence is getting the case dismissed on its own merit. Without real proof of anything. These idjots are the laughing stock of the intelligent communities everywhere. Seems like cause celebre to file tortuous claims in court these days among the insane folks who are racist and believe Pres. B. H. Obama was born elsewhere.

Keyes/Barnett v Obama – Sept 8 Hearing

Posted by Exploring the Natural Born Citizen Clause on September 8, 2009

Get your own copy of the hearing notes here

Morning: The first indications are that the court is moving through a backlog of cases and that the hearing will likely be delayed by a few hours.

Noon: Still no updates as to the hearing. I assume the Court will recess for lunch.. Oops wrong, the update for 11:00 came in at 12:50.

12:50 Case was called at 11:00AM when judged itemized three issues: 1. service of process 2. Drake/Robinson 3. Motion for recusal. So far the only issue dealt with was 1. where West (DeJute’s boss at the DOJ) accepted that service had been effected. The Judge then went over the whole service fiasco.

1:00 Judge forced Kreep and Orly to work together on count 2. Two down, one to go…

1:05 Orly lost on all motions. Details will follow when I receive the final courtroom updates.

In the mean time, enjoy WorldNet Daily’s misunderstanding in Panic in D.C.? Justice urges birth suit tossed: Late motion filed by feds as case ready for hearing.

The late motion as they call it, is in fact a timely motion for the October 5 hearing on the actual complaint. The September 8 hearing is a mere formality to discuss the motion to remove the judge Magistrate, the continued inability by Orly to correctly serve the defendants and the motion by Gary Kreep to reinstate two dropped clients of Orly’s.


http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19547316/Keyes-v-Obama-Motions-Hearing-8SEP-2009

[mynameis]

Sometimes you don't really want to hear from all sides of an argument. My ears are bleeding now. Thanks birthers!

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[yozhik]

"tentatively" - meaning hahaha yeah right. :cool:

Tentatively = I'm open to offer$

[yozhik]

Sometimes you don't really want to hear from all sides of an argument. My ears are bleeding now. Thanks birthers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqo9HPP-kU

Man ... she is annoying.
I was reaching for a hand gun half way thru that - not for her ... for ME!

But ... don't shoot the messenger.
She is a TERRIBLE spokesperson for the "Birthers" ... it doesn't/shouldn't have any influence on the information and the investigations.

[mynameis]

Man ... she is annoying.
I was reaching for a hand gun half way thru that - not for her ... for ME!

But ... don't shoot the messenger.

Must be her Jewish upbringing.

[rayne]

The key guy behind the 'birthers', a Democratic party guy, says he believes Taitz to be a fraud, in that she's really working to discredit the whole 'birther' thing.

[yozhik]

Must be her Jewish upbringing.

Nah ... I just think the overuse of peroxide has taken its toll.

[sorry mynameis ... not biting today :p ]

[yozhik]

The key guy behind the 'birthers', a Democratic party guy, says he believes Taitz to be a fraud, in that she's really working to discredit the whole 'birther' thing.

She's definitely harsh on the senses ... if that equates to "discrediting", its working.
FFS ... I feel like I've gone 12 rounds with Mike Tyson when he was at his best.
My ears are ringing, my eyes are sending visual cues to my gag reflex, a migraine is coming on and I feel hypnotised by the constant jack-hammer-shrill of "ok, ok, ok, ok" ...

I need to go into an Orly Taitz deprivation chamber before I develop complications.

[rayne]

Watching a snippet of the clip, she seems very fake. I mean, the bright pink, the heavy eyeliner, the peroxide hair and the annoying voice seem so bad, like they're staged.

[tien an]

'tentative'....I'd be effing 'tentative' if I were the judge...wouldn't you?


tian an.

EDIT: I've just watched half the video (couldn't stand to watch any more), she accused the journalist of lack of 'integrity and decency' just because he insisted she stick to the point...gee, what a nice lady....

Can anyone explain why a lawyer from Tel Aviv is handling this and not somebody from the USA?

[mynameis]

I read that she has passed requirements to practice, but has yet to take a bar exam in California.

[rodin]

Can anyone explain why a lawyer from Tel Aviv is handling this and not somebody from the USA?

I can - just check my threads :D

[hey_jude]

I ignored her shrills and listened to her message and I feel the shame is on a journalist who talks over, laughs and shakes his head at a guest on their show. The black woman kept repeating 'crank' to deliberately annoy Orly Taitz. Shame on them both for their well executed vilification resulting in discredited guest.

Funny how you lot didn't see the same!

[bowtiedaddy]

well,no.

id say it smells like obama 0 has been set up to fail.

s66m, court takes its time because theyve got him,imo.

lol, can obama veto the ruling?
he could also declare martial law.he alone.

this could be a nasty setup
:confused:
Yes.

So . . what they will do now, is since people have caught on so much to Obama, they'll allow a case to come in that ousts him. The guy who's been very quiet thusfar, Joe Biden will step in as the new president, and try for a new attempt to fuck us all.

[yozhik]

Yes.

So . . what they will do now, is since people have caught on so much to Obama, they'll allow a case to come in that ousts him. The guy who's been very quiet thusfar, Joe Biden will step in as the new president, and try for a new attempt to fuck us all.

He's only been quiet on the political front.
On the lobbying side and sucking up to Zionists, he's been exceptional ... second to none.
:rolleyes:

[mynameis]

I ignored her shrills and listened to her message and I feel the shame is on a journalist who talks over, laughs and shakes his head at a guest on their show. The black woman kept repeating 'crank' to deliberately annoy Orly Taitz. Shame on them both for their well executed vilification resulting in discredited guest.

Funny how you lot didn't see the same!

The segment was to be an exchange of thoughts and ideas. Yet she was a hyena who wouldn't stop talking over the questions the journalists wanted to ask. Their candor was not to interrupt but to question the basis of her belief structure. Whether or not they have an ulterior motive is not known. However, if you feel they disrespected her, I think she disrespected the journalists in kind. She should go back to California and get hired on AM, if she wants her own radio show for spreading Obama hate.

[yozhik]

The segment was to be an exchange of thoughts and ideas. Yet she was a hyena who wouldn't stop talking over the questions the journalists wanted to ask. Their candor was not to interrupt but to question the basis of her belief structure. Whether or not they have an ulterior motive is not known. However, if you feel they disrespected her, I think she disrespected the journalists in kind.

But isn't that how MSM works?
Get a hyena on air to represent the "opposition" and show them up to be manic and psychotic, marginalise them ... and do it disrespectfully so that people learn to be disrespectful of ALL challenging thoughts.

Manners cost nothing.

[mynameis]

But isn't that how MSM works?
Get a hyena on air to represent the "opposition" and show them up to be manic and psychotic, marginalise them ... and do it disrespectfully so that people learn to be disrespectful of ALL challenging thoughts.

Manners cost nothing.

It would be hard to find someone who isn't manic and psychotic in the birther bunch. Equally difficult to find a challenge or a thought.

[deafbred]

I ignored her shrills and listened to her message and I feel the shame is on a journalist who talks over, laughs and shakes his head at a guest on their show. The black woman kept repeating 'crank' to deliberately annoy Orly Taitz. Shame on them both for their well executed vilification resulting in discredited guest.

Funny how you lot didn't see the same!

~

[yozhik]

It would be hard to find someone who isn't manic and psychotic in the birther bunch. Equally difficult to find a challenge or a thought.

You don't have to agree with their view ... but labelling them as ALL "manic and psychotic" sounds ... well ... ummm ... manic and psychotic in itself.

[mynameis]

It would be hard to find someone who isn't manic and psychotic in the birther bunch. Equally difficult to find a challenge or a thought.

Nothing about labeling "all them." You are projecting now.

[yozhik]

Nothing about labeling "all them." You are projecting now.

"It would be hard to find someone who isn't" implies they all are.
Get a grip mynameis.

[yozhik]

Birthers Rule!!!

Obama is illegitimate for the position of POTUS.
Like Bush before him.

One rigged elections; the other shouldn't have been nominated.

12 years of illegitimate US administrations.
Enough is enough.
The world isn't going to take this shit anymore.

[mynameis]

Obama Rules!!!

Obama is legitimate for the position of POTUS.
Like Others before him.

Birthers want impeachment; Orly Taitz should have been aborted.

[gilly]

I'm just closing the thread for long enough to edit out some unneccesariness, then, I hope the debate will be continued on a civilised fashion.

{Edit} It's now re-opened.

[hey_jude]

Obama Rules!!!

Obama is legitimate for the position of POTUS.
Like Others before him.

Birthers want impeachment; Orly Taitz should have been aborted.

Oh dear the uniform in your avatar suits your opinions succinctly

[mynameis]

Oh dear the uniform in your avatar suits your opinions succinctly

Do you know what the avatar is about before making that assumption? Secondly, I was mimicing rude behavior.

[hey_jude]

Do you know what the avatar is about before making that assumption? Secondly, I was mimicing rude behavior.

looks like some sailor moon rubbish anime ...do you know what ...I don't really care :p

[yozhik]

Do you know what the avatar is about before making that assumption? Secondly, I was mimicing rude behavior.

Looks like some form of pseudo Communist China gimpy sexually suggestive anime for men who get off on cartoon oriental lolita's in fantasy latex uniforms.

[helloperator]

I don't usually respect judges...but this one...I would die for him. He is a true saint. Just dunno how he weasled his way through the system to this stage of truth and integrity. What a guy!

All hail...the JUDGE!

[mynameis]

looks like some sailor moon rubbish anime ...do you know what ...I don't really care :p

So you don't care that the avatar is about the freedom of information and access in China; or that the avatar symbolizes a protest against the Green Dam. Hence, she is called the Green Dam Bitch. It must be nice not to care. I wish I could do the same.:mad::mad::mad:

anyway back on the topic...does anyone know if the court date was legit. Supposedly, the people she represents did not serve subpoenas and there was a motion by the state to dismiss the case.

[hey_jude]

So you don't care that the avatar is about the freedom of information and access in China; or that the avatar symbolizes a protest against the Green Dam. Hence, she is called the Green Dam Bitch. It must be nice not to care. I wish I could do the same.:mad::mad::mad:

I care about a lot of causes and issues ...but not avatars!

I also care that a man who may have been born in Kenya has not shown his Birth Certificate and has only shown his Certification of Live Birth. Two very different documents. That is why this needs a court hearing. Period.

[mynameis]

I care about a lot of causes and issues ...but not avatars!

I also care that a man who may have been born in Kenya has not shown his Birth Certificate and has only shown his Certification of Live Birth. Two very different documents. That is why this needs a court hearing. Period.

The BC was guaranteed by a republican from Hawaii who controls birth records. Besides this, the Certificate is legit and usable for any elected position, even POTUS. Secondly, the birth announcement in the newspaper in Hawaii is indisputable fact that there is no case of impropriety. Occam's razor, no waste of tax payer money on a case needed.

[hey_jude]

The BC was guaranteed by a republican from Hawaii who controls birth records.
What you have written IN RED IS INCORRECT - IT IS COLB

Americans want to see the actual birth certificate document - you are afraid to show it.

Besides this, the Certificate is legit and usable for any elected position, even POTUS.

Just because it's Legal - it still doesn't prove he was born in Hawaii - a baby born in African in 1961 could have come over on their own birth certificate in 1961 and then the parents could have attested that their son was born without a doctor or nurse present - they would then receive a COLB not a Birth Certificate - SHOW THE ORIGINAL - with the hospital and names of nursing staff and home addresses - ah there is no original!

Secondly, the birth announcement in the newspaper in Hawaii is indisputable fact that there is no case of impropriety. Occam's razor, no waste of tax payer money on a case needed.

Anyone in Hawaii (Ann Dunhams mother) could have placed the announcement in 1961 is that proof he was born there?

oh to be so sure without proof - show me and I will accept what you say - but you and Obama will not 'show' as it does not exist!

[mynameis]

What you have written IN RED IS INCORRECT - IT IS COLB

Americans want to see the actual birth certificate document - you are afraid to show it.



Just because it's Legal - it still doesn't prove he was born in Hawaii - a baby born in African in 1961 could have come over on their own birth certificate in 1961 and then the parents could have attested that their son was born without a doctor or nurse present - they would then receive a COLB not a Birth Certificate - SHOW THE ORIGINAL - with the hospital and names of nursing staff and home addresses - ah there is no original!



Anyone in Hawaii (Ann Dunhams mother) could have placed the announcement in 1961 is that proof he was born there?

oh to be so sure without proof - show me and I will accept what you say - but you and Obama will not 'show' as it does not exist!

Okay here it is in English:

Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl


They are required by law to follow the law. Do you respect the State's law?

[yozhik]

Not relevant.

In 1961, if he was born in Hawaii, in a hospital, and registered as born in Hawaii at that hospital ... which would have been issued?
A Birth Certificate or a Certificate of Live Birth?

Newspaper announcement; not relevant.
Both BC's and COLB's were published.

If the POTUS wants this to go away ... why doesn't he save the THOUSANDS he is spending on HIDING his Birth Certificate, by simply producing the damn thing?
Would certainly shut the Birthers up, in a matter of nano-seconds.
What is he hiding?
Why not just provide the original?
Seems such a simple thing to do ... don't you think?
Isn't it what YOU would do?

[rodin]

I don't usually respect judges...but this one...I would die for him. He is a true saint. Just dunno how he weasled his way through the system to this stage of truth and integrity. What a guy!

All hail...the JUDGE!

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[hadabusa]

should have been aborted.
so,you would kinda agree abortion is murder?

[hadabusa]

So you don't care that the avatar is about the freedom of information and access in China; or that the avatar symbolizes a protest against the Green Dam. Hence, she is called the Green Dam Bitch. It must be nice not to care. I wish I could do the same.:mad::mad::mad:

anyway back on the topic...does anyone know if the court date was legit. Supposedly, the people she represents did not serve subpoenas and there was a motion by the state to dismiss the case.
get yet another grip, the tianmen protests were so cia, its not even funny.

[mynameis]

get yet another grip, the tianmen protests were so cia, its not even funny.

Green Dam Bitch has nothing to do with Tianamen protests? Get your own grip.

[mynameis]

so,you would kinda agree abortion is murder?

Hitler should have been aborted too, but what is murder again? Why the fcuk do you people keep wanting to drag the thread off topic?

[yozhik]

Hitler should have been aborted too, but what is murder again? Why the fcuk do you people keep wanting to drag the thread off topic?

So bring it back on topic.
Could you please answer these questions?

Not relevant.

In 1961, if he was born in Hawaii, in a hospital, and registered as born in Hawaii at that hospital ... which would have been issued?
A Birth Certificate or a Certificate of Live Birth?


If the POTUS wants this to go away ... why doesn't he save the THOUSANDS he is spending on HIDING his Birth Certificate, by simply producing the damn thing?
Would certainly shut the Birthers up, in a matter of nano-seconds.
What is he hiding?
Why not just provide the original?
Seems such a simple thing to do ... don't you think?
Isn't it what YOU would do?

Thanks

[mynameis]

So bring it back on topic.
Could you please answer these questions?



Thanks

No thanks. I'm done talking to a wind up. I'm ignoring you now like your other pal.

[dolores1]

A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/babyfootprint200.jpg

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=405892

How else do you think they will be able to get Hilary into office, she was not going to win on her own.

[voynich]

If this is the birth certificate that is being put before the court then I think it is a forgery:-

http://www.examiner.com/x-14143-Orange-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m9d7-American-puts-life-on-the-linefiles-affidavit--Obama-Kenyas-COL-birth-in-federal-court

If you notice the dates on the bottom of the birth certificate they say

8/8/1961 and 8/7/1961 now this would be fine if it was the American dating form, but as a Kenyan certificate it would have used the British dating system in which case it would read 8th August 1961 and 8th July 1961 respectively. As Obama was born on the 4th August 1961 the 8/7/1961 (8th July 1961)would be an impossibility. Kenya then and now uses the British system of dates ie day month and year so whoever forged this used the American system.

Whilst I think Obama should show his birth certificate I think it is a mistake to put forward one which could be disproved.

[hadabusa]

If this is the birth certificate that is being put before the court then I think it is a forgery:-

http://www.examiner.com/x-14143-Orange-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m9d7-American-puts-life-on-the-linefiles-affidavit--Obama-Kenyas-COL-birth-in-federal-court

If you notice the dates on the bottom of the birth certificate they say

8/8/1961 and 8/7/1961 now this would be fine if it was the American dating form, but as a Kenyan certificate it would have used the British dating system in which case it would read 8th August 1961 and 8th July 1961 respectively. As Obama was born on the 4th August 1961 the 8/7/1961 (8th July 1961)would be an impossibility. Kenya then and now uses the British system of dates ie day month and year so whoever forged this used the American system.

Whilst I think Obama should show his birth certificate I think it is a mistake to put forward one which could be disproved.

no, both dating forms have been used.
what concerns me is reports that the hospital didnt exist in 61:eek:
dont know if thats confirmed.
the judge says it bs.:cool: