View Full Version : Paul McCartney is dead.
Pages :
[
1]
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
accuracy
21-08-2007, 10:19 AM
The next three posts are from different sites (which i made my favourites some time ago.)
I hope you enjoy visiting those sites.:)
accuracy
21-08-2007, 10:26 AM
:DPaul is dead
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Paul is dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/13/GreatHoax.jpg/150px-GreatHoax.jpg
"Paul McCartney Dead: The Great Hoax", a magazine reporting on the rumours concerning McCartney.
accuracy
21-08-2007, 10:38 AM
http://www.jojoplace.org/nirbanner.jpg
http://invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi
Welcome to the discussion! The purpose of this forum is to discuss the idea that Paul McCartney was replaced some time in late 1966. Why was he replaced? The most likely answer is that the original Paul McCartney is dead, but some other theories have been presented here. Please feel free to read further!
accuracy
21-08-2007, 11:05 AM
Visit:
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/
THE KING IS NAKED!
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/the_king_is_naked.jpg
Billy Shepherd AKA Neil Aspinall reborn as Faul
(from the "White Album" poster)
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/2_person.gif
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/p_f.gif
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/the_same_person.gif
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/pepper2spieslikeus.gif
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/before_after.gif
These comparisons are based on the last photo of James Paul McCartney (1966), and the various photos of Billy Shepherd AKA Neil Aspinall, or Billy Shears or Faul or...etc...
The photo of Faul soon after the very first round of plastic surgery and make-up is at the bottom left of the White Album poster.
Check out the site for proof :)
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/
hagbard_celine
22-08-2007, 10:04 PM
The children's TV show "Blue Peter" always has pets in the studio. In 1962 they introduced a new puppy called Petra. Petra suddenly died a few days later and the show producers decided to go out and find another identical puppy and pretend that it was Petra. This was thought of as preferable to anouncing to the programme's young viewers the heartbreaking news that the puppy was dead. The secret replacement of petra was kept secret for 16years (presumably giving time for the show's 1962 audience to grow up).
I know replacing Paul McCartney with a double is far more extreme than Petra II, but the principle is the same.
I wonder how many people know. Did Linda, his first wife? Probably, but it wouldn't be hard to keep the secret from his second wife, Heather.
eat_a_grey
22-08-2007, 10:16 PM
Very interesting for sure,but I think that the original Paul is still alive today.Just a gut feeling.
A little off topic here but if anyone of the famous musicians that died and are still alive I am absolutely convinced that Jim Morrison is still alive.
hagbard_celine
22-08-2007, 10:32 PM
Very interesting for sure,but I think that the original Paul is still alive today.Just a gut feeling.
A little off topic here but if anyone of the famous musicians that died and are still alive I am absolutely convinced that Jim Morrison is still alive.
I know it's a cliche, but seriously, how about Elvis?
Staying sane
terranwanderer
User ID: 255382
8/22/2007 5:08 PM
____________________________ Staying sane
Quote
man it is difficult to stay sane
start with 2+2=4
irony to come here, like many do, to share ideas
with other people that think that fringe thinking
is conceivably relevant
the other side of the coin
is at the local bar
sure that nothing beyond their immediate surroundings
is conceivably relevant
they believe this
just like some of you believe in the fringe ideas
presented in this forum
belief limits
learning is no longer possible
i am strongly opinionated about gravity on earth(-9.8m/s^2),
but i don't Believe
to me, sanity means this - that you have constructed and own
a logically consistent 'map' of reality that never contradicts itself - to be strict concerning lack of contradiction, which is important, the map is of necessity
pretty small - but nobody wants a small map! lots of people want to know Everything, so they fill their map with this and that until contradictions abound - here are some interesting examples taken from this forum -
you cannot really know about Planet X until You see it in the sky... and even then it could be something else... more interesting to me as observer is: why does the desire to believe exist so strongly?
you cannot really know about the towers unless You were in on it, or at least THERE - i have listened to both sides of the argument and neither side makes much sense - all i can be sure of is this - the towers are gone. something happened.
you cannot really know or not whether aliens are real until you have met one - and even then, it could always be some clever hologram technology owned by a secret elite human - how could you tell the difference? I couldn't tell. I just know that 2+2=4, and this doesn't really apply to hologram detection.
i guess my main point with all this is: don't be in such a rush to Believe something, just because you might find it Desirable, or Titillating, or Satisfying somehow - this is the history of our species, and if you look back at all the crazy things that people have at one time or another believed, a lot of them are obviously wrong, or at best severely limited -
it is relevant that book sales concerning Druids and Mayans and Native Americans and Sumerians and Kabbala and the like are through the roof - the Secret SELLS! everybody wants it... meanwhile, the algebra books are taken to the city dump, just like they are every year, and nobody thinks that algebra is Special Secret Knowledge... the libraries are open, everyone that wants to can learn about Anything for FREE, but they don't go! they PAY channelers...
here's a bit to close(i'm an entertainer) - I've decided to start charging you people to go to the library! Those of you who already attend often, it's only a nickel - token show of solidarity, I'm sure you don't mind... those of you who are out there listening to idiot comics and watching movies and hiring psychics, it costs you a buck! That's right! There some real stuff in here, you shoulda come earlier, naw sorry, it's a buck for you now, and it's a buck for each of your pudgy little spawn as well...
a
User ID: 204852
8/22/2007 5:13 PM Re: Staying sane Quote
to me, sanity means this - that you have constructed and own
a logically consistent 'map' of reality that never contradicts itself
Quoting: terranwanderer 255382
construction?
hmm
maybe observation would be a better choice?
construction is something artificial
sanity has to do with reality, i think
What!
User ID: 222817
8/22/2007 5:14 PM
Re: Staying sane Quote
Who wants to be sane in a world of madness. Be mad, have more fun.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282515
8/22/2007 5:14 PM Re: Staying sane Quote
It's time to choose a rock from which to stand, rather than shifting sands.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 284399
8/22/2007 5:28 PM Re: Staying sane Quote
I've got one word for you: Impartial - practice "being" it. :-)
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=428063&mpage=1&showdate=8/22/07&forum=1
eat_a_grey
22-08-2007, 11:54 PM
Hagbard,yeah I think Elvis is dead,if anything his ego and vanity wouldn't have let him be 'dead' if he was alive.
To elaborate a little on one of the reasons I think that the Og.Paul is still alive,I think that there was such hatred by Yoko vs. Paul that Yoko would have spilled the beans,Esp after John was killed :mad::mad::mad::mad: (grrrrr this still pisses me off to no extent)
Also a little off topic on that note I am also convinced that Chapman was an MKUltra project to kill Lennon.
I know it's a cliche, but seriously, how about Elvis?
Just before elvis died an english elvis fan impersonator who had a life threatening disease went to stay with elvis at graceland after the king heard about his condition .When elvis lay in state wether for photographs or in reality i recal seeing what appeared to be a very young slimmer elvis in the coffin ? and on that note has anyone see nthe film bubba hotep starring bruce campbell well worth a watch especailly or the pairing of elvisand jfk fighting off egyptian mummys lol you gotta love the jfk plot .:D
infinitely free
24-08-2007, 10:37 AM
Very interesting for sure,but I think that the original Paul is still alive today.Just a gut feeling.
A little off topic here but if anyone of the famous musicians that died and are still alive I am absolutely convinced that Jim Morrison is still alive.
Wehey, Elvis is alive, too lol!
-----------------
But anyway, back to the point!
I've got a friend, who holds the opinion that McCartney has turned into a satanist, and has gone down with the Illuminati.
Aparently, he [my friend] 'was doing a research, on the Beatles'
I never took much note of his theory, so far - I've got enough conspiracy theories, to follow!
But don't know, may be related to what accuracy is saying
kblood
24-08-2007, 10:43 AM
All I know is that it is alot easier for those that are or at least want to be dead, to stay dead, if left alone...
You might find someone who simply faked his own death, but if someone tried doing so... maybe there have been good reasons for it.
If someone like Paul just wanted to seem dead, then he probably does not want to be "found" again in any way. That is how I feel about it all anyway.
eternal_spirit
24-08-2007, 11:32 AM
Check out the beatles and the occult thread we've covered this story already in much detail. I'll try find the link if anyone hasn't seen it already worth a look. Agh it's sending me dizzy looking for the thread, it's in the general section somewhere
Check out the beatles and the occult thread we've covered this story already in much detail. I'll try find the link if anyone hasn't seen it already worth a look. Agh it's sending me dizzy looking for the thread, it's in the general section somewhere
This one?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721
It was moved to mysteries and symbolism :)
eternal_spirit
24-08-2007, 11:55 AM
This one?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721
It was moved to mysteries and symbolism :)
.........
:D That's the one thanks. I still can't decide if he's dead lol.
hagbard_celine
24-08-2007, 01:33 PM
Hagbard,yeah I think Elvis is dead,if anything his ego and vanity wouldn't have let him be 'dead' if he was alive.
To elaborate a little on one of the reasons I think that the Og.Paul is still alive,I think that there was such hatred by Yoko vs. Paul that Yoko would have spilled the beans,Esp after John was killed :mad::mad::mad::mad: (grrrrr this still pisses me off to no extent)
Also a little off topic on that note I am also convinced that Chapman was an MKUltra project to kill Lennon.
So am I. I'm only surprised that they didn't take Lennon out a decade earlier. Yet then again, maybe it was before they knew what was coming. A year after John's death was the Falkands war where two maritime powers fought over the South Atlantic oilfields and the choke point into the Pacific (and maybe to scare the people inside the Hollow Earth too!). If John were alive today he would only be in his late 60's. He'd be a real thorn in the flesh of the War on Terror.
As for Elivis, it wouldn't surprise me if he faked his death. If he'd just got old and cranky it would have dulled his image in a way; yet dying a young man in a sudden and unexpected way has made him an icon. He's probably worth a lot more today as a reult of his death than he would have been if he was still officially alive. And he's no doubt living comfortably!:D
hagbard_celine
24-08-2007, 01:38 PM
To elaborate a little on one of the reasons I think that the Og.Paul is still alive,I think that there was such hatred by Yoko vs. Paul that Yoko would have spilled the beans,Esp after John was killed :mad::mad::mad::mad: (grrrrr this still pisses me off to no extent)
.
Well maybe the real Paul is alive.;) He could be living the life of the Canadian guy who replaced him.
But to answer your primary point, does Yoko even know about it? John was still married to Cynthia when the switch took place and he only met Yoko in late 1966.
.........
:D That's the one thanks. I still can't decide if he's dead lol.
i think he is but no one has told him ! oooooh , lol .as for elvis thank you very much didnt he go to the then us president was it nixon ? not saure and try to get john lennon booted out of the country for being anti american peace loving dope smoking hippy.Elvis always wanted to be in law enforcement and wanted to join the FBI or CIA very patrioticfor some reason depsite being drafted intothe military.Anyone any info or dont elvis fans make good conspiracy theorists ?
Apparently according to some bloke my mate knew theres a nisland where they all go when they die to live out the rest of their lives in peace after making there name and money and where as HC said they make more after they die than they did when alive.I found that hilarious until isaw a few looky likeys on the isle of wight and i dont smoke lol:D
eat_a_grey
24-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Well maybe the real Paul is alive.;) He could be living the life of the Canadian guy who replaced him.
But to answer your primary point, does Yoko even know about it? John was still married to Cynthia when the switch took place and he only met Yoko in late 1966.
HAH funny you mention this,I watched a Howard Stern show with Paul earlier this week (yeah I know Stern I cant stand him but I wanted to see Ozzy meet Paul actually but thats another story all together)Anyways Paul claimed that Yoko didnt even know who The Beatles were when she went to Paul's house to ask him for some writings he has done for some exhibit or something like that.So Paul said 'I am not giving you any thing,go ask John' And supposedly thats how she met John,but as Stern pointed out 'if she didnt know who The Beatles were,what was she doing asking you for your music writings?' Paul was like 'Exactly'
:confused:
graflok
25-08-2007, 03:51 AM
Yoko is a joko.
nickatnoon61
25-08-2007, 07:23 AM
Just before elvis died an english elvis fan impersonator who had a life threatening disease went to stay with elvis at graceland after the king heard about his condition .When elvis lay in state wether for photographs or in reality i recal seeing what appeared to be a very young slimmer elvis in the coffin ? and on that note has anyone see nthe film bubba hotep starring bruce campbell well worth a watch especailly or the pairing of elvisand jfk fighting off egyptian mummys lol you gotta love the jfk plot .:D
Yeah, 2013, I saw Bubba Hotep! Have a look at this....http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/field-of-art.htm
1 2 free
25-08-2007, 07:54 AM
But to answer your primary point, does Yoko even know about it? John was still married to Cynthia when the switch took place and he only met Yoko in late 1966.
I'm sure Yoko knows. if you spend enough time studying this it's easy to spot the differences between the two main 'Pauls' and the other temporary 'Pauls'. If you were to know 'Paul McCartney' personally you'd spot the difference in the eyes (the windows of the soul) other changes in appearence, the different personalitys, mannerism, voice, etc. Yoko knows, Stella knows and Cynthia certainly knows what's going on.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x57/speakyourtruth/johnrainsomethingnotchopped.jpg
The left is taken from The Beatles 'Rain' video and the right is from video for 'Something'.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x57/speakyourtruth/johnrainsomethingchopped.jpg
I lined these up using the inner points of the eyes and the top lips. That should mean everything else lines up aside from a very slight difference in chin length due to the open mouth in the left hand picture. As you can see 'Rain John' has slanted narrower eyes, a wider face and a much longer chin (his chin actually lines up with 'John's' turtle neck in the other picture).
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x57/speakyourtruth/johnprofcomp1.jpg
There's a big difference in chins sizes.
a few links to imposters , the pope and the lisa marie presley ones i read about years ago before the internet became so wide spread, althoughthe presley piece doesnt give much info , they piece i read had photographs of the young lisa marie and comparisons to the newer version just as in the john lennon pics and paul mcartney pics on here, maybe this needs a new thread ,famous imposters as it was related subject material i put it here for now, its could all be part of the same game .:D
http://www.roses.org/directives/direct50.htm
http://www.tldm.org/news/vision_of_jacinta.htm
http://weeklywire.com/ww/08-16-99/memphis_mfea.html
http://lisamarie.at.infoseek.co.jp/lisanews13.htm
Yeah, 2013, I saw Bubba Hotep! Have a look at this....http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/field-of-art.htm
Makes good sense and good reading thanks for the link :D
eat_a_grey
25-08-2007, 03:30 PM
1 2 free..pssst thats John,not Paul in your pics :p
1 2 free
25-08-2007, 03:40 PM
1 2 free..pssst thats John,not Paul in your pics :p
lol I meant to put it in the other Beatles thread. :D
hagbard_celine
25-08-2007, 04:35 PM
lol I meant to put it in the other Beatles thread. :D
I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying John was replaced too, or that faces change naturally over time too?
It's true that John has changed over the years, but not to the same extent that "Paul" has. What's more The change between Paul and "Faul" was sudden, not gradual.
eat_a_grey
25-08-2007, 05:00 PM
I think it was just operator error on 1 2 free's part Hagbrad :rolleyes:
hagbard_celine
25-08-2007, 05:18 PM
I think it was just operator error on 1 2 free's part Hagbrad :rolleyes:
OK. :o
Sorry, 12Free
1 2 free
26-08-2007, 06:38 PM
I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying John was replaced too, or that faces change naturally over time too?
It's true that John has changed over the years, but not to the same extent that "Paul" has. What's more The change between Paul and "Faul" was sudden, not gradual.
Sorry. Not only did I post in the wrong thread I also did a lousy job of presenting the information. I've deleted the pictures. I'll do a little work on what I have and get back to you. :)
gonzo power
26-08-2007, 08:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/iamaphoney
I suggest everyone interested in the Paul is dead theory go watch all of this guy's videos.
astraltraveller
01-09-2007, 08:35 AM
i have listned to several beetles albums and thier is a good level of genious in them and skill plus ingenuity and complexity . when you listne to pauls lattest song you see it is the most talentless shit ever created .
notaslave
01-09-2007, 12:39 PM
i have listned to several beetles albums and thier is a good level of genious in them and skill plus ingenuity and complexity . when you listne to pauls lattest song you see it is the most talentless shit ever created .
Yes I have thought for many years that Faul's songs were junk. And when I looked into the whole Faul/Paul thing the pre 66 Paul was seriously fanciable, the other one seriously not. There's a lot to be said for attraction in such cases.
emerald
01-09-2007, 12:54 PM
i have listned to several beetles albums and thier is a good level of genious in them and skill plus ingenuity and complexity . when you listne to pauls lattest song you see it is the most talentless shit ever created .
Its very rare when the double is as talented as the original or even more. Not the case with Faul/Faux Paul as well. Since some time of 1966 til present days an army of studio musicians and famous friends in the field made the so-called Paul McCartney music we all know. Among his best helpers are Elton John and Billy Joel, the latter being accused at one point that his music ressembles McCartney's.
celtic isis
03-09-2007, 05:11 PM
Very interesting for sure,but I think that the original Paul is still alive today.Just a gut feeling.
A little off topic here but if anyone of the famous musicians that died and are still alive I am absolutely convinced that Jim Morrison is still alive.
yeah and he's (mccartney) just as much a selfish greedy bastard as ever lol with his 700m fortune i hate paul mccartney lol :D
jim morrison on the other hand, interesting guy...it was a drug overdose with him wasn't it?
sorry for crap post girlbadmooddaytoday:D
graflok
19-09-2007, 09:29 PM
Just wondering: has anyone done any voice-print analysis of early Paul vs. late Paul?
eternal_spirit
19-09-2007, 09:35 PM
Just wondering: has anyone done any voice-print analysis of early Paul vs. late Paul?
...........
Good idea, but wouldn't have a clue how to do this. Do you think the results would be accurate and prove whether Paul is really Paul?
lilly555
19-09-2007, 09:36 PM
Yeah what about the end of that one song where you can here it say, "I BURIED PAUL"
Wasn't that song titled, "I Am the Walrus?" :confused:
eternal_spirit
19-09-2007, 09:45 PM
Heres a selection of Beatles songs played backwards known as backmasking......Only starts to seem convincing about 2 mins 30 sec with the song I'm so tired. The song fades out with what sounds like gibberish not known words but when played backwards you can clearly here Lennon saying ( Paul is dead man Miss him miss him miss him")
oops be back in a min to post a video
eternal_spirit
19-09-2007, 09:48 PM
Beatles Backmasking - YouTube
eternal_spirit
19-09-2007, 09:50 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
phoebe
19-09-2007, 09:53 PM
I've watched all of iamaphoney's vids.
Excellent stuff!
Some are very cryptic though.
I used to be a PID'er.
Until recently...
When I was trawling through the posts at
The 60if forums...
I came across a guy called 'scatterdome'
His theory resonated strongly with me.
The gist of it can be found here:
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=paul&action=display&thread=1063219993
Be patient - his theory evolves over the
Period of a year or more.
And details of it are strewn across the board.
He's basically saying that Paul purposely employed
A replacement and was instrumental in
In the success of the coverup
Even writing much of 'Faul's' music since.
His theory is very thought provoking and very detailed
And includes references to Illuminati and freemasonry.
He cites some marvellous evidence
Including something I've never seen before
Regarding a group called Klaatu
(That Paul was one of the bandmembers - post-1966).
But regardless of whether he's right or not
Paul was definitely replaced by one or more doubles
Around the end of 1966.
The bloke we see now masquerading as Paul McCartney
Is definitely NOT the real Paul.
Paul was gorgeous looking, absolutely stunning.
Faul is a close resemblance, but just not quite good enough.
strider
19-09-2007, 10:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UVDlg4x468
That's brilliant.. I loved the beatles when I was a bit younger, but even then thought there was something strange about it that I just couldn't put my finger on. I can't listen to them now a days, their songs have just got such a weird air about them..
eternal_spirit
19-09-2007, 11:00 PM
I've watched all of iamaphoney's vids.
Excellent stuff!
Some are very cryptic though.
I used to be a PID'er.
Until recently...
When I was trawling through the posts at
The 60if forums...
I came across a guy called 'scatterdome'
His theory resonated strongly with me.
The gist of it can be found here:
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=paul&action=display&thread=1063219993
Be patient - his theory evolves over the
Period of a year or more.
And details of it are strewn across the board.
He's basically saying that Paul purposely employed
A replacement and was instrumental in
In the success of the coverup
Even writing much of 'Faul's' music since.
His theory is very thought provoking and very detailed
And includes references to Illuminati and freemasonry.
He cites some marvellous evidence
Including something I've never seen before
Regarding a group called Klaatu
(That Paul was one of the bandmembers - post-1966).
But regardless of whether he's right or not
Paul was definitely replaced by one or more doubles
Around the end of 1966.
The bloke we see now masquerading as Paul McCartney
Is definitely NOT the real Paul.
Paul was gorgeous looking, absolutely stunning.
Faul is a close resemblance, but just not quite good enough.
..........
Yes I'd go along with Paul having stand ins for certain appearances, tV etc. The voice and the bass playing even on the later Beatles music seems to be the real Paul.
LOL I know what you mean about how Paul lost his looks, could that just be due to drugs, depression, ageing, mind control. Or probably the stand in Pauls.:rolleyes: Maybe he had some sort of illness or a mental breakdown and that's why the Beatles didn't perform live after the 1970 roof top performance.
I can't be certain but I think the present day Paul is the real one, but I'll have a look at the link, thanks. Then I may think other wise.
eternal_spirit
19-09-2007, 11:06 PM
That's brilliant.. I loved the beatles when I was a bit younger, but even then thought there was something strange about it that I just couldn't put my finger on. I can't listen to them now a days, their songs have just got such a weird air about them..
..........
My Dad wen't to the same college as Lennon. He says he wen't into a class room and Lennon was playing around on the piano, little did my dad know that piano tinkerer would become the legend.
I know what you mean much Beatles songs have a strange vibe about them. But there are a hand full of their songs I still enjoy listening to and I play some on acoustic guitar once in a while. I also believe there are many urban myths and half truths about them
None of Todays new bands can produce anything better.
fantana
19-09-2007, 11:19 PM
Paul McCartney isn't dead.
He is just having a break.
Expect to see him on a KitKat advert soon.
phoebe
21-09-2007, 12:54 PM
..........
Yes I'd go along with Paul having stand ins for certain appearances, tV etc. The voice and the bass playing even on the later Beatles music seems to be the real Paul.
LOL I know what you mean about how Paul lost his looks, could that just be due to drugs, depression, ageing, mind control. Or probably the stand in Pauls.:rolleyes: Maybe he had some sort of illness or a mental breakdown and that's why the Beatles didn't perform live after the 1970 roof top performance.
I can't be certain but I think the present day Paul is the real one, but I'll have a look at the link, thanks. Then I may think other wise.
I'm talking a more permanent replacement.
He lost his looks because it's not the same person!
He lost his looks over the space of a few months.
I have photos of pre-1966 Paul and he is extremely
Good looking and attractive.
After 1966 I'm not attracted to him at all.
Real Paul was quite humble and happy-looking
Faul is arrogant and aloof.
It's not to do with age (only a few months)
Or drugs or anything else.
The replacement has done very well
In learning Paul's mannerisms etc
And I would say the replacement could be mistaken as
Paul's twin.
But that's all.
Regarding the music and voice -
It's entirely possible that the real Paul did record
Various tracks for the Beatles in the studio.
The modern 'Paul McCartney' is showing signs of
Having had lots of plastic surgery in early life.
He looks quite a bit older than his 65 years
(Because the replacement was a good
Few years older than James Paul McCartney?)
There is lots of evidence, have a dig around if you're interested.
It's definitely a very intriguing conspiracy 'theory'.
:)
emerald
21-09-2007, 12:58 PM
The age difference between real McCartney and his impersonator or Faux Paul/Paul as Lennon nicknamed him is 7 years. Faux Paul was born around 1935.
emerald
21-09-2007, 03:47 PM
Sorry, meant Faux Paul/Faul...
phoebe
22-09-2007, 03:55 PM
The age difference between real McCartney and his impersonator or Faux Paul/Paul as Lennon nicknamed him is 7 years. Faux Paul was born around 1935.
Having read a lot on the 60if/TKIN/NIR forums etc
I'm very confused as to the identity of Faul.
Neil Aspinall?
Billy Shepherd?
William Campbell?
Vivian Stanshell?
:confused:
eternal_spirit
22-09-2007, 04:55 PM
Having read a lot on the 60if/TKIN/NIR forums etc
I'm very confused as to the identity of Faul.
Neil Aspinall?
Billy Shepherd?
William Campbell?
Vivian Stanshell?
:confused:
..........
The song Sergeant Pepper the lyrics.... "let me introduce to you the one and only Billy Shears?"
And If I remember in the film Yellow Submarine someone says " Who the Billy Shears are you?" Could this just be the same as the saying John doe? Or Faul is Billy :eek: I'd rule out Stanshall I've heard his songs. Very much doubt he could sound like Paul.
astro zombie
23-09-2007, 07:48 AM
Even if this theory is true, Band On The Run is still one of my favorite albums of all time.:D
byrdsmaniac
30-09-2007, 02:42 AM
Hi folks. I've spent years at both "Nothing Is Real -Paul was replaced" and "The King is Naked /60IF".
Paul was certainly replaced, if he didn't, in fact, die, but that seems the lesser part of of a much bigger drama, in which he plays
the role of an ancient "god" returning to Earth from the 'land of the dead'. I might conceive this as being merely some sort of pageant,
were it not for the way the body of the Beatles' work anticipates "blue meanies" like Bush and Cheney. There is an element of
prophecy to their albums. I can't help but think that the words
"It's getting very near the end" in the Sgt. Pepper reprise - which were just words on a record in 1967 - now sound like a subtle advisement
to a generation that we were living at the end of an age. But what completely blows me out of the water is that Nat King Cole's 1949 song
"Nature Boy" seems to have anticipated "Mother Nature's Son" (McCartney) with its lyrics, which, oddly enough, have nothing to do
with nature. If that is the case, this ain't no ordinary pagaent, but something real on a much bigger scale!
Well...as Neil Young said, "There's more to the picture than meets the eye."
clint web
30-09-2007, 05:52 PM
No one still believes the Paul is dead rubbish?
It would have been incredible good luck to find a double who could write totally world class songs as the real Paul did.
We're expected to believe that the lookalike wrote:
Hey Jude,
Get back,
Penny Lane,
Let it be,
Fool on the hill
etc etc etc. And sang them with the same great vocals as the first Paul.
If I had to choose this or the queen is a lizard conspiracy, give me the queen one any day of the week.
1 2 free
30-09-2007, 06:13 PM
No one still believes the Paul is dead rubbish?
It would have been incredible good luck to find a double who could write totally world class songs as the real Paul did.
We're expected to believe that the lookalike wrote:
Hey Jude,
Get back,
Penny Lane,
Let it be,
Fool on the hill
etc etc etc. And sang them with the same great vocals as the first Paul.
If I had to choose this or the queen is a lizard conspiracy, give me the queen one any day of the week.
Why would the lookalike need to write the songs? Anyone could do that. As for the voice, it changes. Do comparisons.
clint web
30-09-2007, 06:36 PM
1 2 free,
So someone else wrote the songs for the lookalike. They also allowed the lookalike to keep the royalties and become super rich? Doubt that very much mate to be honest.
If you'd written Hey Jude for example, would you let someone else keep all the cash from it?
Anyone could write the songs you say - pretty talented anyones out there.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9321/pf122512103220066281352ky7.jpg
found this image and thought it would fit here is he only hiding in plain site .As for the songs anyone can write songs lots of talented people never get the opportunity to express themselves on a world stage like most of the so called stars do , i read that the songs where written by the tavistock institute ? i dont know about that 1 .Paul mc cartney and george harrison lived in speke i lived there for 1st 18 years and its a bleak place in parts so if someone from my old home town can write songs like that with their background and education then almost anyone can :D
1 2 free
30-09-2007, 08:50 PM
1 2 free,
So someone else wrote the songs for the lookalike. They also allowed the lookalike to keep the royalties and become super rich? Doubt that very much mate to be honest.
If you'd written Hey Jude for example, would you let someone else keep all the cash from it?
Anyone could write the songs you say - pretty talented anyones out there.
You can doubt what you like or you can do some investigating and see if there's anything to this. Two years ago I had much the same opinion as you (not quite as closed minded though). I researched and my opinion changed.
If you'd written Hey Jude for example, would you let someone else keep all the cash from it?
Have you never heard of 'ghost writers'?
synak
30-09-2007, 10:06 PM
1 2 free,
So someone else wrote the songs for the lookalike. They also allowed the lookalike to keep the royalties and become super rich? Doubt that very much mate to be honest.
If you'd written Hey Jude for example, would you let someone else keep all the cash from it?
Anyone could write the songs you say - pretty talented anyones out there.
Who says he kept all the royalties? Also, obviously they're aren't going to let him starve to death and become homeless. Plus its a job like any other so compensation is to be expected.
As for the songs and their quality, well thats subject to personal opinion mate.
karma19
30-09-2007, 10:46 PM
My God next you will be saying Elvis is dead:eek:
clint web
30-09-2007, 11:49 PM
You nutters really believe this - wow
I can say without doubt that if a conspiracy came about that said the moon was made of green cheese, you lot would be defending it to the hilt.
In fact, yes it is green cheese. And that face on mars was carved out by Leonardo da vinci, he built a rocket and flew there.
Scientists believe that the average person has up to 50,000 thoughts per day so when you multiply how many thoughts each individual has each day by the population of the planet, that is a lot of thoughts. maybe these are just some of them Imagine theres no forum it's easy if you try :D
byrdsmaniac
01-10-2007, 01:38 AM
In October 1969 the rumor spread across the USA that Paul was dead, and at that time people started noticing the clues that suggested it on the album covers, and in the music. Still, no one could figure out why the Beatles would have gone out of their way to suggest such a thing if it wasn't true. Some had cynically speculated that it was a way to sell more albums.
What intrigues me now is that enough clues have been left in the Beatle albums, and those of Sir Paul, to suggest that the story that actually was being told is that of Osiris, Horus, Seth and Isis, with Paul essentially in the role of Osiris.
In that story, Seth tricked Osiris into getting into a box (see cover of "Yesterday and Today") which he then locked and sent out to sea (or the Nile).
Isis later found the box washed up on the shore; and found the dead Osiris in it. Being a goddess, she brought him temporarily back to life, had sex with him, and from that union Horus was born, who eventually avenged Osiris's death.
After Isis had had sex with Osiris, he died again, and she hid him in the dessert. Seth found the body and cut him into 14 pieces. (This is the real significance of the infamous "Butcher cover" for the album "Yesterday and Today".) The gods respected Isis's devotion to Osiris and made him the lord of the underworld.
Now look at the Beatle and McCartney albums. On the inside of the McCartney II album there is a picture of him emerging from the water,
as if to suggest his soul re-emerging from the waters on which he had died (as Osiris).
A dead man coming back into the world of the living.
The 2003 McCartney tour was called the "back in the world" tour.
I know this is all bizarre, but all Paul's albums have this death thing going on in them.
If "Lifeis just a bowl of cherries", then what is a bowl without cherries in it? ("McCartney")
If Isis brought Osiris to life and had sex with him then he "rose" from the dead. ("Red Rose Speedway" - which features a feminine "landscape" on the inside cover, I believe.)
He called his group "Wings" - like what angels have, right?
"Ram" - is an aspect of the god Osiris. His spirit is represented as a ram.
What do we hear in "I want you/She's so heavy"? 15 repetitions of what sounds like a storm at sea.
But beyond even that, look at some of McCartney's songs! He makes promises only a god would or could make. "Hope of Deliverance" (from the darkness that surrounds us).
"With A Little Luck" (we can send "it" (an asteroid?!) rocketing skyward to avert an "explosion")
"Off the Ground" (We can fly like angels). We're going to get"Hi Hi Hi" in the mid-day sun.(Same thing - flying like angels).
He'll follow the sun. He's Mother Nature's Son. Here comes the Sun. Here come the sun king. "I go back so far, I'm in front of me." ("The World Tonight").
The guy tells you six ways to Sunday that he's the sun god. He is "Osiris", "Apollo" "Krishna" "Christ"; you name it. Jesus Christ, Superstar.
But why? Why "Say the word, and be like me" unless they really meant it?
Pretty far out! That's all I can say.
gonzo power
01-10-2007, 06:36 AM
In October 1969 the rumor spread across the USA that Paul was dead, and at that time people started noticing the clues that suggested it on the album covers, and in the music. Still, no one could figure out why the Beatles would have gone out of their way to suggest such a thing if it wasn't true. Some had cynically speculated that it was a way to sell more albums.
What intrigues me now is that enough clues have been left in the Beatle albums, and those of Sir Paul, to suggest that the story that actually was being told is that of Osiris, Horus, Seth and Isis, with Paul essentially in the role of Osiris.
In that story, Seth tricked Osiris into getting into a box (see cover of "Yesterday and Today") which he then locked and sent out to sea (or the Nile).
Isis later found the box washed up on the shore; and found the dead Osiris in it. Being a goddess, she brought him temporarily back to life, had sex with him, and from that union Horus was born, who eventually avenged Osiris's death.
After Isis had had sex with Osiris, he died again, and she hid him in the dessert. Seth found the body and cut him into 14 pieces. (This is the real significance of the infamous "Butcher cover" for the album "Yesterday and Today".) The gods respected Isis's devotion to Osiris and made him the lord of the underworld.
Now look at the Beatle and McCartney albums. On the inside of the McCartney II album there is a picture of him emerging from the water,
as if to suggest his soul re-emerging from the waters on which he had died (as Osiris).
A dead man coming back into the world of the living.
The 2003 McCartney tour was called the "back in the world" tour.
I know this is all bizarre, but all Paul's albums have this death thing going on in them.
If "Lifeis just a bowl of cherries", then what is a bowl without cherries in it? ("McCartney")
If Isis brought Osiris to life and had sex with him then he "rose" from the dead. ("Red Rose Speedway" - which features a feminine "landscape" on the inside cover, I believe.)
He called his group "Wings" - like what angels have, right?
"Ram" - is an aspect of the god Osiris. His spirit is represented as a ram.
What do we hear in "I want you/She's so heavy"? 15 repetitions of what sounds like a storm at sea.
But beyond even that, look at some of McCartney's songs! He makes promises only a god would or could make. "Hope of Deliverance" (from the darkness that surrounds us).
"With A Little Luck" (we can send "it" (an asteroid?!) rocketing skyward to avert an "explosion")
"Off the Ground" (We can fly like angels). We're going to get"Hi Hi Hi" in the mid-day sun.(Same thing - flying like angels).
He'll follow the sun. He's Mother Nature's Son. Here comes the Sun. Here come the sun king. "I go back so far, I'm in front of me." ("The World Tonight").
The guy tells you six ways to Sunday that he's the sun god. He is "Osiris", "Apollo" "Krishna" "Christ"; you name it. Jesus Christ, Superstar.
But why? Why "Say the word, and be like me" unless they really meant it?
Pretty far out! That's all I can say.
He's the young Maximus him
"Here Comes the Sun King"
King of Cosmania=son of the magickian
It's all starting to add up.
synak
01-10-2007, 08:29 AM
You nutters really believe this - wow
I can say without doubt that if a conspiracy came about that said the moon was made of green cheese, you lot would be defending it to the hilt.
In fact, yes it is green cheese. And that face on mars was carved out by Leonardo da vinci, he built a rocket and flew there.
:rolleyes:
http://i20.tinypic.com/2lj5cfd.jpg
hagbard_celine
01-10-2007, 10:22 AM
You nutters really believe this - wow
I can say without doubt that if a conspiracy came about that said the moon was made of green cheese, you lot would be defending it to the hilt.
In fact, yes it is green cheese. And that face on mars was carved out by Leonardo da vinci, he built a rocket and flew there.
Hmm. That's slightly less outlandish than many of the official stories. The ones the general population accepts as universal baseline truth.
tinmenace
01-10-2007, 01:36 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted...
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/fidelitylogo.jpg
Paul McCartney became the spokesperson for Fidelity Investments in 2005, which is one of the largest shareholders of Exxon Mobil - a Rockefeller company.
Just an interesting FYI.
turquoisefyre
01-10-2007, 03:08 PM
Greta Garbo was killed in the 40's because her bloodlust became too obvious - she was in a Vampire cult-, the big boss of MGM at the time "found" a replacement for her but the replacement never made the grade like the origional. and yet:
Grata Garbo
(September 18, 1905 – April 15, 1990)
http://www.eastman.org/taschen/m197921760001.jpg
emerald
01-10-2007, 03:44 PM
Greta Garbo was killed in the 40's because her bloodlust became too obvious - she was in a Vampire cult-, the big boss of MGM at the time "found" a replacement for her but the replacement never made the grade like the origional. and yet:
Grata Garbo
(September 18, 1905 – April 15, 1990)
http://www.eastman.org/taschen/m197921760001.jpg
My God!!!!!:eek: I know all's possible, but I admit not a nanosecond this thing crossed my mind. U have more info on this (I'm beggin)?
byrdsmaniac
02-10-2007, 02:50 AM
This thread is interesting in terms of the Beatle/Egyptian god correlation.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=143942#post143942
We have Annubis coming to London; "Paul" McCartney wanting the London Eye (Ferris Wheel)
to be temporarily named for himself in honor of an upcoming album that has a Horus eye on the cover.
I get the feeling there's more going on here than meets the London Eye.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
synak
02-10-2007, 03:39 AM
This thread is interesting in terms of the Beatle/Egyptian god correlation.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=143942#post143942
We have Annubis coming to London; "Paul" McCartney wanting the London Eye (Ferris Wheel)
to be temporarily named for himself in honor of an upcoming album that has a Horus eye on the cover.
I get the feeling there's more going on here than meets the London Eye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lClV-K35WWA
A ritual perhaps? I've seen these done via the music platform before so it wouldn't be totally uncommon.
paulski
04-10-2007, 01:16 PM
I researched and my opinion changed
1,2 Free could you give me any heads up to where you researched, as I would quite like to do some myself.
Cheershttp://beatles.ncf.ca/tpepper.jpg
byrdsmaniac
05-10-2007, 03:27 AM
The official lyrics that came in the Deluxe Version of "Memory Almost Full"
have all of
the choruses of "My Ever Present Past" printed like this:
"The things I think I did
I d.i. d.i. did
The things I think I did
When I was a kid"
------------------------------
"I d.i. d.i. did"
"I dee aye dee aye did"
I "dee aye dee"
I "dee aye d"
I "deeayed"
I "died".
"I d.i. d.i. did"
"I died, I did." ;)
chandrakavi
05-10-2007, 03:51 AM
Come on you guys, this was a joke, an hoax done in the 60's,
a publicity stunt, that made everyone doubt about Paul, when
The Beatles were about to break up, and finally did, since they all
wanted to be free from the Band and make their own songs.
That's all, the rest is yellow press, if you want to swallow it 40 years later, it's up to you.
synak
05-10-2007, 04:18 AM
http://www.imageox.com/image/96187-jim_mccart.gif (http://www.imageox.com/share/96187-jim_mccart.gif)
accuracy
05-10-2007, 07:12 AM
http://www.imageox.com/image/96187-jim_mccart.gif (http://www.imageox.com/share/96187-jim_mccart.gif)
Great pic synak ;) it's been a while since i've come back to this thread, and wow! there's a lot of diversion and misinformation by the forum's trolls!
;)
gonzo power
05-10-2007, 07:13 AM
Come on you guys, this was a joke, an hoax done in the 60's,
a publicity stunt, that made everyone doubt about Paul, when
The Beatles were about to break up, and finally did, since they all
wanted to be free from the Band and make their own songs.
That's all, the rest is yellow press, if you want to swallow it 40 years later, it's up to you.
But why have new clues been inserted since then? There have been new clues as recently as 2006 in the commercial for the "Love" album. If it was just a publicity stunt conducted in the 60s, why bother continuing it nowadays?
paulski
05-10-2007, 01:05 PM
The only problem I have is that John I'm sure would have said something more public about this. Why if he was breaking down the myths of the Beatles, not have exposed Paul as a fraud publicly.
chandrakavi
05-10-2007, 07:01 PM
But why have new clues been inserted since then? There have been new clues as recently as 2006 in the commercial for the "Love" album. If it was just a publicity stunt conducted in the 60s, why bother continuing it nowadays?
Well it worked as a publicitryu stunt in 1967,with Seargent Pepper's
and other albums
why not try it again in 2007?
I love the Beatles, but what the press said is a different thing.
best to you.
INFINIITE LOVE
clint web
05-10-2007, 07:11 PM
Come on you guys, this was a joke, an hoax done in the 60's,
a publicity stunt, that made everyone doubt about Paul, when
The Beatles were about to break up, and finally did, since they all
wanted to be free from the Band and make their own songs.
That's all, the rest is yellow press, if you want to swallow it 40 years later, it's up to you.
Exactly.
Some claim that the so called double had a secret singer who did all the vocals too. well, have you seen the documentary let it be? it's clearly Paul singing and his vocals on the famous rooftop session are amazing - same as on early tracks like Can't buy me love.
The only problem I have is that John I'm sure would have said something more public about this. Why if he was breaking down the myths of the Beatles, not have exposed Paul as a fraud publicly.
Well said.
Paul and John were very bitter with each other after the break up and John was certainly a man who spoke his mind (remember he said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus). John would have exposed this.
So would the level headed George.
i dont really know, its just interesting to debate but surely if they where mind controlled or part of some illumie conspiracy then they do the opposition opposame thing anyway to add to the confusion. Maybe if john knew this to be true maybe he was afraid they would kill him ? for revealing that info as it was so deep down the rabbit hole .Or maybe if mind control exists to the extent it is assumed then maybe the others and the fake paul have been programmed to believe .
I believe I can say with GREAT certainty that the original Paul McCartney is
dead. At least certain in MY heart.
I started my search a few months ago and found several forums - then I found 'Paul Is Dead, Miss Him ", forum. There were three individuals who had had the same vision of Paul's murder. One of the posters was very ill at the time and she has not been heard from in quite a while. The other lady is on the forum and her's is a very detailed account of what she was shown. Her daughter is the third to have had a vision. At the time her daughter was not aware of anything.
http://only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi
{I believe if you are here on the David Icke forum you must have an open mind - as I DO. I hope you will approach this with an open mind. There are plenty of good comparison photos of the original Paul up to late 1966. The remainder are photos of "Bill" or "Faul", for Fake Paul.}
I have talked to this lady and I believe she may have had past ties with Paul, prior to this life and that is the reason she was given this vision.
At the time Paul and Brian were in Paul's car driving down a road. Another car deliberately ran them off the road throwing Paul out of the car and badly hurting him. Paul was thrown into the trunk of the other car. I don't know what happened to Brian at this point. Paul was taken to some woods. After seeing pictures of Dartmoor National Forrest, she believes, that that is where he was taken. Tavistock is very near. Although hurt badly he tries to get away but is shot in the shoulder. Then he is shot in the head.
Why kill Paul? That's a good question.
There are several reasons this may have happened.
Paul became aware of the replacement of Doris Day sometime in 1965/66. The boys were friends with her son Terry Melcher. They were vacationing in California & stayed either stayed with Terry or visited him at that time. Paul was secretly seeing Sylvie Vartan, a very famous singer in France from the 1960's to this day. She married Johnny Hallyday, another very famous French singer, in April 1965. There was a love triangle going on there. She had been killed & replaced sometime in late September, 1965. Whether Hallyday killed her because of her relationship with Paul, who knows ? Paul knew that something was wrong, but he was in denial concerning it. We're not sure if he was murdered because he went to see her in late September 1966, and the replacement realized that he was onto her.
{I will supply a link to Doris Day comparisons later}
It is also known that Paul wanted out of The Beatles. Maybe another reason. But why kill him and try to replace him with a look-alike? A very hard task.
Or maybe, he realized to what extent they were being "used" - mind control, or whatever. Could Brian Epstein have been their handler? There are many unanswered questions - but I (personally) do BELIEVE he was murdered.
Paul had also been seeing Jane Asher at the time. In fact he had a room in the Asher's home. Although we can't find anything doing a "search", the lady on the forum thinks Jane's father had ties to Tavistock. If anyone reading this has any information, please pass it on to the Paul Is Dead forum.
I trust this lady - she is not a confused or delusional person - she is very sane. I was tremendously shocked and saddened when I read the details on the forum. I had come to believe just a few weeks prior that he had probably been killed in an auto crash. That alone was hard to deal with. But then reading the details of what happened to him - well, . . . . it was horrible - it was too distressing.
Any views or information would be greatly appreciated at the forum.
clint web
05-10-2007, 09:59 PM
Anna,
You are insane - go to bed.
There are many oddball theories here at Icke that you can get involved with - such as the one that claims that Leonardo da vinci carved that face on mars.
Paul did not die - it was a big silly hoax of the sixties.
Another conspiracy that you might like to look into is this - Elvis shot President Kennedy, this has some credibillity. It was reported on BBC
Also look at viz comic of England:
www.viz.co.uk
Look at the archive and find Grassy Knollington - it's yoooooooooooouuuuuuu
gonzo power
05-10-2007, 10:16 PM
Anna,
You are insane - go to bed.
There are many oddball theories here at Icke that you can get involved with - such as the one that claims that Leonardo da vinci carved that face on mars.
Paul did not die - it was a big silly hoax of the sixties.
Another conspiracy that you might like to look into is this - Elvis shot President Kennedy, this has some credibillity. It was reported on BBC
Also look at viz comic of England:
www.viz.co.uk
Look at the archive and find Grassy Knollington - it's yoooooooooooouuuuuuu
Son of the Magickian will reveal himself 09/02/08
gonzo power
05-10-2007, 10:22 PM
Well it worked as a publicitryu stunt in 1967,with Seargent Pepper's
and other albums
why not try it again in 2007?
I love the Beatles, but what the press said is a different thing.
best to you.
INFINIITE LOVE
I don't buy it. The Beatles, in 2006, did not need help from some silly hoax to raise awareness and album sales. Hell, they didn't in the 60s, either. They are The Beatles. The name alone will sell albums. Feel free to disagree, but I believe there is something rotten in the "Apple", and we're about to find out what sooner rather than later.
Anna,
You are insane - go to bed.
There are many oddball theories here at Icke that you can get involved with - such as the one that claims that Leonardo da vinci carved that face on mars.
Paul did not die - it was a big silly hoax of the sixties.
www.viz.co.uk
Look at the archive and find Grassy Knollington - it's yoooooooooooouuuuuuu
Hey Clint! I know about the "big silly hoax". I lived back then. Didn't believe it then. But things have change. We all have our opinions - that's ok. But I don't think I'm changing MY mind anytime soon. ;)
emerald
05-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Hey Clint! I know about the "big silly hoax". I lived back then. Didn't believe it then. But things have change. We all have our opinions - that's ok. But I don't think I'm changing MY mind anytime soon. ;)
Don't take for granted such words, anna. Im on that site as well. Noone is forced to believe anything, but there are more than obvious things regarding this and who has the patience and the brain necessary for that, ok, who doesnt, his problem.
byrdsmaniac
05-10-2007, 11:13 PM
This thread relates to this one, in some respects:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721
I don't mean to be adding to the confusion; just saying that the "Paul Is Dead" story is related to
the symbolism used in the Beatles' work.
synak
05-10-2007, 11:32 PM
Notice the height differences:
Before:
http://www.imageox.com/graphic/thumbs/96480-the_beatle-th.jpeg (http://www.imageox.com/share/96480-the_beatle.jpeg)
After:
http://www.imageox.com/graphic/thumbs/96481-sgt_pepper-th.jpeg (http://www.imageox.com/share/96481-sgt_pepper.jpeg)
Great pic synak ;) it's been a while since i've come back to this thread, and wow! there's a lot of diversion and misinformation by the forum's trolls!
;)
Thanks, there's plenty more where those came from. And don't worry about the naysayers. ;)
Thanks Synak! Guess there will always non-believers - but then the truth will come out. BUT not the WHOLE truth. :(
I don't buy it. The Beatles, in 2006, did not need help from some silly hoax to raise awareness and album sales. Hell, they didn't in the 60s, either. They are The Beatles. The name alone will sell albums. Feel free to disagree, but I believe there is something rotten in the "Apple", and we're about to find out what sooner rather than later.
Apple record label apple , :Dcomputers , tempted anyone ?:D
synak
06-10-2007, 12:31 AM
Thanks Synak! Guess there will always non-believers - but then the truth will come out. BUT not the WHOLE truth. :(
There are those who are ignorant due to lack of knowledge and then are those who prefer ignorance and reject knowledge. Basically the main thing is to enlighten yourself and trust what you feel. Let the others revel in confusion if so they desire. Btw, this doesn't merely apply to any one subject but more in the broader bigger picture sense.
byrdsmaniac
06-10-2007, 02:50 AM
But why have new clues been inserted since then?
There have been new clues as recently as 2006 in the commercial for the "Love" album.
If it was just a publicity stunt conducted in the 60s, why bother continuing it nowadays?
That really is the (when I'm) $64,000 question.
It seems that the fellow who plays Paul these days has made a career of writing songs
that hint around that he's not the original, and that the original Paul died.
For instance, in the video for "My Ever Present Past", two Pauls
are repeatedly shown throughout the song:
Official Ever Present Past Video - YouTube
In the song "Rinse the Raindrops", we hear words that sound like, "By the way, Paul is dead"
or possibly, "Hollywood Paul is dead" at 3:43 - 3:47 on YouTube, or 6:32 - 6:28 embedded here:
Rinse the Raindrops - Paul McCartney - Driving Rain - YouTube
In "That Day is Done", YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/media]the lyrics are sung as if from the grave:
"You know where I've gone, I won't be coming back"
"I made no sign, I made no sound; I know I must stay underground."
"She walks away from my resting place." etc.
But what makes the whole mystery creepy is that way back when Paul was unquestionably
Paul, the Beatles did a song that predicted the day would come that people
would
notice his absence: Beatles- "I'll Follow the Sun" in Miami - YouTube
"One day you'll find that I have gone
But tomorrow may rain,
so I'll follow the sun"
with these notably peculiar lyrics:
"And now the time has come,
and so, my love, I must go.
And though I lose a friend,
In the end you will know..."
"Some day, you'll know I was the one"
Admittedly, it could "just be" a love song about a romeo telling Juliett she'll be sorry
later if she declines him,
but for my two cents, the whole "Paul is dead" mystery was anticipated, or at least,
subconsciously sensed, by the Beatles long before they decided to use the ploy
to sell lots of records. ;)
And the fact that, to this day, "Paul" makes it a point to include clues to this riddle in his material,
tells me there's more to this than merely the possible death of a rock star.
gonzo power
06-10-2007, 07:01 AM
And the fact that, to this day, "Paul" makes it a point to include clues to this riddle in his material,
tells me there's more to this than merely the possible death of a rock star.
That's what I am struggling to understand. Just what that is. And why is Anubis, Egyptian god of death, arriving in London the same time the London Eye is set to be renamed the McCartney Eye? Add in the fact that "McCartney Years", the definitive compilation of Paul McCartney, is being released next month and pictures the Eye of Horus on the cover plus the countless imagery that links McCartney to Egyptian Mythology, and something seems amiss. All of these things are escalating at once, and at the time that iamaphoney predicted they would as well. I am just going to sit back and enjoy the show and wait and see if son of the magickian actually reveals himself or not.
1 2 free
06-10-2007, 09:39 AM
1,2 Free could you give me any heads up to where you researched, as I would quite like to do some myself.
Cheershttp://beatles.ncf.ca/tpepper.jpg
The 'Nothing Is Real (http://invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi)' forums are very good. Spend some time there digging around and you'll find good links anfd interesting info. Certainly a lot to think about.
The best thing to do is your own research though. Don't look for what others have found. Study pictures, study video, study songs - ignore clues. They lead nowhere. Just look for physical changes, changes in his voice and in his personality. It's about deprogramming your mind. Your mind sees what it wants to see, what it expects to see and what it's told to see. You basically have to unlearn and then it becomes very obvious. You'll see it straight away.
siliconpsychosis
07-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Ive just finished watching the 55 small videos by Iamaphoney on Youtube, that collectively create a magnificent collage examining much of the evidence to suggest that Paul McCartney died in a car crash.
What an amazing film and I have to say that I can definately see how this could be a possibility. The messages in so many Beatles album covers and tracks does suggest that there is such a secret hidden. However, I imagine these hidden messages are not conscious but rather subconscious manifestations of the horror and anguish the band most have suffered keeping the truth hidden from people.
That excludes the McCartney impersonator, who I imagine is one twisted, warped character, whose willingness and determination to replace the original Paul has now spanned 4 decades!
The film also suggests that the impersonator was the son of Aliester Crowley! I understand that Crowleys image features twice in the cover of Sergeant Pepper, but is there any other evidence to support this claim, or was I merely observing artistic supposition by the makers of the film.
The films also shows an image of impersonator Paul with one normal eye and one slit eye, like a lizard. Was the impersonator a reptilian as well as the son of Aliester Crowley.
Either way, I have to admit that from what I have watched, I do believe something sinister underlies the Beatles. This is a fascinating conspiracy, and I would love to pursue this if someone could point me in appropriate directions.
Thanks all for bringing this to my attention. I never liked Paul McCartney and now I can see possible reasons why.
clint web
07-10-2007, 03:36 PM
The films also shows an image of impersonator Paul with one normal eye and one slit eye, like a lizard. Was the impersonator a reptilian as well as the son of Aliester Crowley.
It's getting really silly now. But a lot here will buy into that.
clint web
07-10-2007, 11:58 PM
I take it all back - I first said that i did not believe the Paul is dead stuff but I am wrong. Just watch this horrible rubbish single from Paul:
Official Ever Present Past Video - YouTube
Yeah, the Paul that wrote paperback writer and I'll follow the sun is certainly dead.
eternal_spirit
08-10-2007, 12:36 AM
I take it all back - I first said that i did not believe the Paul is dead stuff but I am wrong. Just watch this horrible rubbish single from Paul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVGk5qm6Mac&mode=user&search=
Yeah, the Paul that wrote paperback writer and I'll follow the sun is certainly dead.
.................
Could he of ran out of creativity because he'd played his best ( most bands run out of ideas it's mathematically impossible to keep creating good original music year after year, there are only so many formulas you can use with music) Too much acid maybe done his brain in:confused:, same can be said for Harrison's songs after the Beatles, they where terrible, he was never much of a singer but done some great guitar playing with the Beatles I'm still undecided if Paul is the real Paul Mcartney we see today.
seamus
08-10-2007, 06:09 PM
Just a thought,
Has anyone examined the idea yet of the possibility that the holographic (all-connected) nature of the universe combined with all the focus on the sun has caused this kind of mass-subconscious manifestation of the retelling of these old myths? In other words: no one may be intending to drop all these clues, or manufacture this evidence... It may be just a natural outgrowth of the law of attraction coupling to our collective oversoul, with a holographic (synchronistic) output stream.
s
Just a thought,
Has anyone examined the idea yet of the possibility that the holographic (all-connected) nature of the universe combined with all the focus on the sun has caused this kind of mass-subconscious manifestation of the retelling of these old myths? In other words: no one may be intending to drop all these clues, or manufacture this evidence... It may be just a natural outgrowth of the law of attraction coupling to our collective oversoul, with a holographic (synchronistic) output stream.
s
I was thinking that but you put it so eloquently was only saying that type of thing today to a mate that by design or not the universe unfolds itself
anyway :D
siliconpsychosis
08-10-2007, 10:01 PM
I totally agree seamus. I think much of the syncronicities we see are out of conscious awareness, and that includes much of the illuminatis behaviour. I think if people start to understand and accept the holographic synergetic nature of reality then they may be able to accept many conspiracy theories as truth. A common doubt amongst sceptics is that the elite (illuminati etc) are simply not able to consciously create so much meaning in their actions. I agree, they often cant, but the universe can and naturally will.
Perhaps everything that happens at any given moment is an expression of collective consciousness. A collective emotion, lots of separate events and all their individual associations, will splinter into an infinite number of situations, creating meaning and syncronicity in apparent unconnected areas.
I bet there is a whole world of connectiveness and syncronicity happening that we arent aware of. We could probably look at the biological activity of an area of the ocean bed and identify evidence that Paul McCartney is dead. We just dont how. Yet.
chandrakavi
08-10-2007, 10:06 PM
A voice print of Paul would settle all doubts, before and after,
should try that:D
byrdsmaniac
09-10-2007, 12:37 AM
That's been done before. Sgt. Pepper was found to have 3 "McCartneys" on it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/hand_comparison.jpg
http://www.actionext.com/names_p/paul_mccartney_lyrics/simple_as_that.html
Paul McCartney
Simple As That
I know it isnt easy to refuse
A lot of thoughts are flying thru your head
Tell me this before you have to choose
Would you rather be alive or dead?
Its as simple as that
Would you rather be alive or dead
Its as simple as that, its so simple
It makes you wanna cry
They ask you if you wanna join in
You linger for a minute or so
Well nows a perfect time to begin
Are you gonna say yes or no?
Its as simple as that
Are you gonna say yes or no?
If s as simple as that, its so simple
It makes you wanna cry
And if you love your life
Everybody will love you too
Yes if you love your life
Everybody will love you too
Its harder when you start to get round
I want you to remember what I said
I know you never like to let them down
But would you rather be alive or dead?
Its as simple as that
(etc.)
A curious song, to be sure. Sounds like Paul is being asked if he wants to be in the band or not.
1 2 free
09-10-2007, 08:15 AM
That's been done before. Sgt. Pepper was found to have 3 "McCartneys" on it.
Whoever's doing 'When I'm 64' doesn't even sound like Paul. Ditto for 'Fool On The Hill' for that matter.
raffles
14-10-2007, 05:53 AM
Whos' Stella McCartneys dad ? faul or paul ?
She sure does have features of the real paul.
hagbard_celine
15-10-2007, 11:37 PM
Whos' Stella McCartneys dad ? faul or paul ?
She sure does have features of the real paul.
I wonder how many people know. His second wife Heather maybe didn't, but Linda must have.
raffles
16-10-2007, 01:38 AM
I wonder how many people know. His second wife Heather maybe didn't, but Linda must have.
Stella McCartney born 13 sept 1971, guess that would make faul her dad.
She sure does look like the real paul though. hmmm
Im on the fence with this paul is dead thing, some very good pros and cons.
whats your opinion hagbard ?
clint web
16-10-2007, 08:34 PM
I wonder how many people know. His second wife Heather maybe didn't, but Linda must have.
Heather didn't even know who THE BEATLES were when she met him - and that is actually true :eek:
chandrakavi
17-10-2007, 04:15 AM
Paul is alive, it was knoown in 1967.
You guys still playing around with the PAUL IS DEAD publicity false phrase? come on....
clint web
17-10-2007, 05:17 PM
Paul is alive, it was knoown in 1967.
Exactly.
hagbard_celine
17-10-2007, 08:46 PM
Stella McCartney born 13 sept 1971, guess that would make faul her dad.
She sure does look like the real paul though. hmmm
Im on the fence with this paul is dead thing, some very good pros and cons.
whats your opinion hagbard ?
I'm on the fence too. The Digilander site looks very compelling and, as I've said about Blue Peter, this kind of action is not without precedent. But another side of me rejects it as implausable. I just don't know.
hagbard_celine
17-10-2007, 08:48 PM
Heather didn't even know who THE BEATLES were when she met him - and that is actually true :eek:
You're kidding!:D:eek: The Beatles were more famous than Jesus; Gallup proved it!
clint web
17-10-2007, 10:17 PM
Hagbard,
You are correct, I believed a rumour that she said to the American tv personality Barbara Walters "I've never heard of the Beatles"
What she actually said was "I was never into the Beatles, I prefered wings"
Who'd have thought someone here could believe a silly rumour :p:D:o
1 2 free
19-10-2007, 11:10 AM
Stella McCartney born 13 sept 1971, guess that would make faul her dad.
She sure does look like the real paul though. hmmm
She does?
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x57/speakyourtruth/stellamccartney01.jpg
She has blue eyes, red hair, different shaped eyes to Paul, different shaped head, different mouth/lips, similar(ish) nose.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x57/speakyourtruth/stellamccartney03.jpg
All of Paul/Linda's kids have blue eyes and yet brown (Paul's eyes are brown) is the dominant eye colour.
_neo2_
19-10-2007, 12:01 PM
paul with son james
accuracy
19-10-2007, 01:33 PM
Exactly.
clint web, you seem to have all the answers.:confused::eek:
Are we trolling again?
phildee3
19-10-2007, 07:05 PM
Whoever this guy is, he's a total prick!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7194722704268960334&q=
What will George be remembered for??
I guess bringing Krishna conciousness to the west escaped his notice!!
clint web
19-10-2007, 08:11 PM
clint web, you seem to have all the answers.
Not all of them, no.
As for the trolling, well, I am sorry if you find me having an opinion a bad thing. Sad thing that a forum like the Icke one would have someone like you, accuracy, accusing someone of trolling - so much for free speech eh?
You're as bad as the fuc+ing politicians.
hagbard_celine
20-10-2007, 07:55 AM
paul with son james
There's a definite resemblance there to Paul/Faul, but Stella doesn't look much like her dad to me. Then again, I don't look anything like my brother so it's not proof.
byrdsmaniac
20-10-2007, 06:21 PM
I take it all back - I first said that i did not believe the Paul is dead stuff but I am wrong. Just watch this horrible rubbish single from Paul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVGk5qm6Mac&mode=user&search=
Yeah, the Paul that wrote paperback writer and I'll follow the sun is certainly dead.
LOL. I liked you better when you were Lennon, btw. This comment seemed all the more humorous
then, but as for this "horrible rubbish" (and I would tend to concur), it seems that it is some
kind of magical ceremony: :cool:
See Reply #17 here:
http://invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=TAR&action=display&thread=1191451349&page=1
clint web
20-10-2007, 08:53 PM
I liked you better when you were Lennon, btw.
He's back, I agree.
;)
clint web
20-10-2007, 09:04 PM
What would my avatar have thought of this? What would Lennon think of this horrifying song?
Even Ringo must be blushing for Paul, and that's saying something.
phildee3
20-10-2007, 09:28 PM
He's back, I agree.
;)
Welcome back, John.
Watch out for a gem from Yoko, folks!
clint web
20-10-2007, 09:59 PM
Watch out for a gem from Yoko, folks!
Sounds interesting - give us more
phildee3
20-10-2007, 10:05 PM
Sounds interesting - give us more
Just watch, clint.
Be aware, and ready for anything!
byrdsmaniac
21-10-2007, 02:07 AM
Here it comes!!! :eek:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
chandrakavi
21-10-2007, 10:28 PM
Hope you don't wake up 30 years later to the fact that Paul McCartney
was really alive and getting divorced from Heather Mills in 2007....
In 2030 looking at the 2007 press.......:D
clint web
22-10-2007, 12:01 AM
Yoko in a groovy flower power clip before she met Lennon - so what?
graflok
22-10-2007, 01:52 AM
Heavy.
byrdsmaniac
30-10-2007, 01:02 AM
This is news to me. Has anyone here heard of this before, what the Russian TV showed
starting at about 4:17 in this video, that apparently on some Sgt. Pepper albums
there was a skull under McCartney's face, and a picture of JPM under Ringo?
paul is dead - nothing is real 4 - YouTube
blueone
02-11-2007, 02:09 PM
After listening to an interveiw with Heather Mills yesterday on BBC radio 5Live, i was interested to hear her say that some things about her relationship with PM "the public wouldn't be able to handle". The interviewer didnt pick up on this and didn't ask what she meant. What could she have meant?
Here is the interview -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/fivelive_aod.shtml?fivelive/heathermills
graflok
02-11-2007, 04:51 PM
This is news to me. Has anyone here heard of this before, what the Russian TV showed
starting at about 4:17 in this video, that apparently on some Sgt. Pepper albums
there was a skull under McCartney's face, and a picture of JPM under Ringo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUX9qmnlx6U
That move that McCartney made with the microphone looked like a throat-slitting gesture to me.
blueone
02-11-2007, 11:46 PM
That move that McCartney made with the microphone looked like a throat-slitting gesture to me.
Yep, i think it was too. But when did he make that gesture? Maybe it was right at the end of the interview... that seems like the most likely answer to me..:rolleyes:
graflok
06-11-2007, 07:04 PM
This looks like a recent pic. Can anyone ID that symbol he's wearing? Occult?
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/33580/2003949173970337540_rs.jpg
This looks like a recent pic. Can anyone ID that symbol he's wearing? Occult?
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/33580/2003949173970337540_rs.jpg
Thats the om or aum symbol. A hindu symbol representing a sound vibration used to concentrate the mind while meditating. Kinda harmless really, but the fact that the symbol is split in half seems strange. Iv'e never seen it on a shirt which splits it when unbuttoned.
Heres a brief description of om.
http://hinduism.about.com/od/omaum/a/meaningofom.htm
eternal_spirit
07-11-2007, 02:01 AM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:iliqlJLWUKXjvM:http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/f/f6/Ganesha-aum.jpg
graflok
07-11-2007, 03:18 AM
Part of the symbol resembles the crescent & star which symbolizes various
things including Islam & Turkey and it also has some occult significance
I believe.
hagbard_celine
07-11-2007, 02:29 PM
According to the cheap gossip-media, he's been snogging a girl in his car; the paparazzi have a photo of him.:eek::rolleyes:
I'd say there are worse jobs "Faul" could have taken on... ;)
byrdsmaniac
11-11-2007, 08:34 PM
Iamaphoney has been suggesting in his "Rotten Apple" videos that something will happen
with McCartney tomorrow, causing him to 'disappear'. A date with David Copperfield, perhaps? :rolleyes:
But seriously, "The McCartney Years" CD will be released, but something else may be
in the works as well, if IAAP really knows anything. In the "rotten Apple 61 o" here:
paul is dead - the rotten apple 61 r - YouTube
he actually sings "He'll be dead, 'cause there are people waiting" at 2:16 into the video at YouTube.
( - 23 seconds in the embedded link here.)
I would hope he's not talking about an assassination, but perhaps McCartney's
career being dead, because he announces his retirement or something.
Stay tuned. I guess we'll know soon enough.
on the road
12-11-2007, 02:27 AM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:iliqlJLWUKXjvM:http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/f/f6/Ganesha-aum.jpg
who remembers them on trips ? :)
hagbard_celine
12-11-2007, 10:31 PM
This looks like a recent pic. Can anyone ID that symbol he's wearing? Occult?
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/33580/2003949173970337540_rs.jpg
I know he's getting on in years, so his face is naturally getting lined, but there's still a hint there of plastic surgery scars.
gonzo power
12-11-2007, 11:30 PM
Iamaphoney has been suggesting in his "Rotten Apple" videos that something will happen
with McCartney tomorrow, causing him to 'disappear'. A date with David Copperfield, perhaps? :rolleyes:
But seriously, "The McCartney Years" CD will be released, but something else may be
in the works as well, if IAAP really knows anything. In the "rotten Apple 61 o" here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3J1K-RsezY
he actually sings "He'll be dead, 'cause there are people waiting" at 2:16 into the video at YouTube.
( - 23 seconds in the embedded link here.)
I would hope he's not talking about an assassination, but perhaps McCartney's
career being dead, because he announces his retirement or something.
Stay tuned. I guess we'll know soon enough.
The Fireman blows his mind...............this was it. It was symbolic. The fireman has made his appearance. The London Eye is now the McCartney Eye. It's starting......
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1292498,00.html
byrdsmaniac
13-11-2007, 12:22 AM
:eek: Oh! Now I get it. :) Thanks!
Uh....just what would it be that is starting?:confused:
gonzo power
13-11-2007, 03:57 PM
:eek: Oh! Now I get it. :) Thanks!
Uh....just what would it be that is starting?:confused:
The gears are now in motion for the revelation in February. The truth will be revealed. Judging from the two videos posted last night, this is going to be something major. Much bigger than Paul dying and being replaced. Apparently that incident was only a small piece of the bigger puzzle. The Beatles are not what we thought they were......
supertzar
13-11-2007, 05:13 PM
The Paul is Dead theory has been debunked for real. The site with the morphing faces has been exposed by another site with good information. Just google it and see for yourself. I don't have time to look it up right now. All you have to do anyway is look at how he holds his bass with that distinctive technique; left-handed. Ruling out exotic android/AI technology, it's definitely the same person.
gonzo power
13-11-2007, 09:21 PM
The Paul is Dead theory has been debunked for real. The site with the morphing faces has been exposed by another site with good information. Just google it and see for yourself. I don't have time to look it up right now. All you have to do anyway is look at how he holds his bass with that distinctive technique; left-handed. Ruling out exotic android/AI technology, it's definitely the same person.
Suit yourself. But as far as I can tell, there is MUCH more evidence that suggests otherwise.
rossus
13-11-2007, 09:44 PM
This looks like a recent pic. Can anyone ID that symbol he's wearing? Occult?
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/33580/2003949173970337540_rs.jpg
that's the OM symbol..... like my avatar...
supertzar
13-11-2007, 10:23 PM
Suit yourself. But as far as I can tell, there is MUCH more evidence that suggests otherwise.
Check this out and then tell me what you think.
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html
raffles
14-11-2007, 02:33 AM
Check this out and then tell me what you think.
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html
Very interesting site, good info on the sgt peppers cover that the image had to be streched to fit the cd box.
Dunno what to think about this anymore..
byrdsmaniac
14-11-2007, 05:33 AM
I'm with Gonzo Power on this. The material at the site supertzar posted is a drop in the bucket
in terms of 'evidence', and was last updated in October of 2005! The opening statement there:
"...I have ceased to be engaged in the PID/PIA debate because it is silly as hell."
suggests to me that the owner of the site already has his mind made up, regardless of
what the evidence may (or may not) show regarding whether Paul is dead, or was replaced.
He is correct that 60IF/TKIN was devious in claiming to have a real document,
however many of the threads there may be worth a look because of material the posters themselves
presented, in my opinion. TKIN may have shot itself in the foot, (or head), but evidence
regarding whether Paul may have been replaced, or is dead, does not depend
on the existence of TKIN. The Beatles may even have suggested the day would come when
it would become apparent that Paul had gone, in their song "I'll Follow the Sun".
Other PID/PWR boards exist.
Here is one of them, for those who are interested in the matter: http://invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi
Having been involved in looking at the clues that many people have discussed at the various boards
for the last three years, I can tell you that, in my opinion, not only is there evidence to
suggest that Paul was replaced, but that there are a number of other mysteries associated
with the Beatles that go much deeper. Unfortunately, I don't think that there is
going to be a lot of time for people who have not pursued the study of "Beatleology" to
get up to speed, but I feel safe in saying this: You will be totally amazed, if not stunned,
when you discover what they were really all about. (If I am right. :D) :cool:
In any case, Iamaphoney whose "Rotten Apple" videos are on YouTube, has suggested that
"Paul" would disappear on or about November 12th, so if that happens, he will have been
proven right. (He even went so far as to say that "Paul" would be dead! :eek:)
Iamaphoney seems to have a first-hand knowledge of all things PID-related, and clearly he takes
it seriously, so if you have an interest in the topic, and don't want to read through reams
of material at a website, his videos may be the way to go.
We're coming into some strange days. Strange days indeed! :D
Somehow, the Beatles seemed to have known this time was coming.
howie
14-11-2007, 03:55 PM
I found these in a Beatles book of rare colour photos.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6046/paul7ki5.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2316/paul6bh8.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9957/paul5zs2.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6232/paul4ql1.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1002/paul3xa7.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2675/paul2go1.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7876/paul1dl5.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2247/beatlesforeversq9.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2623/beatles4tk7.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1179/beatles3hi8.jpg
howie
14-11-2007, 03:56 PM
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9783/beatles2of5.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/862/beatles1rq7.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1391/waspauldead1kh5.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4571/waspauldeadpj8.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2082/waspauldead2zs6.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5068/waspauldead3ja2.jpg
byrdsmaniac
16-11-2007, 01:56 AM
Nice work, Howie, but when people who aren't overly familiar with the differences in the "Pauls"
see a series of pictures containing both, they usually can't differentiate between the two.
One of the best examples of the contrast was posted today at TKIN:
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1195155066&page=1
Paul on the left; "Paul" on the right
supertzar
16-11-2007, 07:11 PM
It's obviously the same person. I don't understand why anyone would think otherwise. I read that site extensively for a few days when I first discovered it and I was open to the idea. Then I found the debunking site I linked to that exposes the deceptions and I realized it's a joke. You are being played. Sorry.
steevo
16-11-2007, 08:04 PM
In the 60s, I can understand why the Beatles Manager would create a rumour of Paul being dead. It is good publicity. Afterall it was only a rumour :D
Assuming he is NOT dead, then why are we so interested in it 40 years later on the David Icke Forum ? I'm not criticising this discussion because I find it very interesting too, I watched most of those YouTube videos about it.
Peace movements to this day still talk about the Beatles when discussing the war and "truth" with their friends, I know I do. The Beatles were inspirational to a whole generation and played a major part in stopping the Vietnam war by opening peoples minds.
Maybe, Paul McCartney IS dead, maybe he is still alive. We dont know.
The NWO would love it if we were thinking that the Beatles were fake because, it would discredit one of our heroes (Lennon) and demoralise us.
I feel that the NWO are trying to make us discredit our own heroes by putting doubt in our minds. Remember that that is one of their tactics.
1 2 free
17-11-2007, 11:05 AM
It's obviously the same person. I don't understand why anyone would think otherwise. I read that site extensively for a few days when I first discovered it and I was open to the idea. Then I found the debunking site I linked to that exposes the deceptions and I realized it's a joke. You are being played. Sorry.
You sound like someone who watched Loose Change and doubted the official story and then discovered the Screw Loose Change blog and realised 911 definitely wasn't an inside job.
I checked out the website you linked to.
http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul.html
They begin on Paul's height which is a none issue as far as I'm concerned. It's very hard to tell how tall the real Paul was just by looking at pictures of him or indeed movie footage. The Pepper cover shot is a cut and paste job so that's a terrible example to use. As for footage of them dancing in MMT...why did they choose that? What websites like this do is they focus on the easily debunkable stuff so the Pepper sleeve photo shoot and and the MMT clips are used instead of shots of The Beatles stood side by side.
The website claims 'the photo above [MMT screen grab] has been used for decades to argue that Paul became much taller in 1967'. They offer no evidence to back this up. How do they know that particular photo has been 'used for decades'? Why would people use a picture of The Beatles with their legs bent to argue the point about Paul's height? How was this picture used in days prior to the internet? The picture (or more realistically, the clip) has been used for decades by people who look for clues and argue that the fact that 'Paul' is wearing a black carnation while the rest of the band are wearing red carnations is letting us know that it's not really Paul. The page concludes by claiming 'He's The Same Height As Always!' but offer no real evidence to back this up either.
Page two focuses on that picture from the 'White Album' poster which looks to me like the real Paul wearing glasses but some claim is the double or is some clue to a switch in identity. The website claims that people like me believe it's the replacement 'before he had plastic surgery'. If that's true he obviously didn't need much surgery. They also focus on doctored pictures (that works both ways). Again what do they prove? That TKIN is a deceptive website (I agree). That you have to examine a lot of photos because they're easily doctored (I agree).
Page three focuses on a 'clue' I'd never even heard of. I quite agree that a reflection in the window is not a decaying corpse though. They then focus on how he holds/plays his bass and keyboard as if somehow it's impossible to copy another persons style of playing. The keyboard stuff is laughably weak. Their big piece of evidence, the 'still frame from 1967 taken from the Beatles Anthology', is a posed photograph. It's not from video footage.
Page four: Eye colour. Even the real Paul's eye colour changes from picture to picture. It depends on a number of things including lighting , surroundings and quality of print. Paul's eyes generally seem to be brown/hazel although there are supposedly pictures of the faux Paul with blue eyes. Not seen them though. Then more fades. These things are totally unscientific and easily to fake. They're not good evidence whichever way you look at this topic.
Last page is more fades. I notice on every page they have a little piss take picture. On this page Paul is calling people like me 'stupid'. That's nice.
If you think this is bullshit that's fine. Believe what you like. But you need to look a lot deeper than some 'debunking' website. I'm sure you wouldn't do that with other topics so why do it with this?
helloperator
17-11-2007, 04:05 PM
One of the best examples of the contrast was posted today at TKIN:
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1195155066&page=1
Paul on the left; "Paul" on the right
In one photo he's about 26 or younger. In the other photo he's 35 or more approximately.
The smaller pics below show a comparison between maybe a 17yo and a 40yo...wtf?
Very pointless comparison of photos
synak
18-11-2007, 01:13 AM
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9783/beatles2of5.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2623/beatles4tk7.jpg
Interesting height differences I'd say^^^^
howie
18-11-2007, 05:10 PM
1963
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5808/morcambeandwise1963gr2.jpg
1963
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7748/thankyourluckystars1963dx8.jpg
1964
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8828/edsullivan1964ux9.jpg
1968
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5519/pauljohn1968ud9.jpg
1963
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2531/manchester1963cm2.jpg
1968
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4779/heyjude1968fz5.jpg
1967
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9589/pennylane1967lj2.jpg
1968
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/8101/paul1968ux2.jpg
brinty
19-11-2007, 12:37 PM
and here I am introducing myself, hullo to everybody and glad to be amongst good company:) as well as hullo-o-o-ing Scribbler on his birthday.
Have a good one, mate,:) and a VB for me too.
brinty
_neo2_
19-11-2007, 05:13 PM
paul pre and post 66
clint web
19-11-2007, 08:01 PM
Paul pre 1966 and post 1966 - yep, looks like the same person to me.
howie
19-11-2007, 09:19 PM
Let It Be
"You used to do it lads" "Those films I've been looking at"
Paul is dead - the rotten apple 6 - YouTube
Imagine
John - "The fab four"
George - "fab three"
John - "yeah fab three" (winks)
paul is dead - the rotten apple 13 - YouTube
clint web
19-11-2007, 10:11 PM
same height as john and george here in 1968. Explain that.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6439/pauloneuz1.jpg
clint web
19-11-2007, 10:15 PM
In this video from the end of yellow submarine, John looks the tallest one:
All Together Now - YouTube
howie
06-12-2007, 07:48 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/914/sgtpepper3an6.jpg
phildee3
06-12-2007, 08:26 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8
Heather has just gone up in my estimation!
steevo
06-12-2007, 08:59 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/914/sgtpepper3an6.jpg
Gosh! :eek: I havent seen that video before.
She is being very very silly though because if they kill her, everyone will accept it was just suicide NO PROBLEM. She should tell the world what she knows...and FAST. (assuming she REALLY has got some "devistating" information that she is holding back).
phildee3
06-12-2007, 09:36 PM
She should tell the world what she knows...and FAST. (assuming she REALLY has got some "devistating" information that she is holding back).
Bollux.
She said she ain't gonna.
Cos it's beyond belief and too devastating.
And she has to protect herself.
Yet in this video she tells all.
Too bad ya missed it!
steevo
06-12-2007, 10:02 PM
Bollux.
She said she ain't gonna.
Cos it's beyond belief and too devastating.
And she has to protect herself.
Yet in this video she tells all.
Too bad ya missed it!
What video ?
phildee3
06-12-2007, 10:33 PM
What video ?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8
peachped
06-12-2007, 11:43 PM
Bollux.
She said she ain't gonna.
Cos it's beyond belief and too devastating.
And she has to protect herself.
Yet in this video she tells all.
Too bad ya missed it!
No she doesn't.
adimon
07-12-2007, 12:03 AM
Question: Why would a pop group 'replace' a member with an identical impostor (who happened to have the same singing voice and musical ability - or did they train him? :D) and then leave stupid cryptic references to it everywhere? Why?
Plenty of pop groups have lost members and continued. OK, Paul is the real creative force from 66 onwards, and it would have been difficult, but the main difficulty would have been on the part of the other three to cope with the death and move on.
I've read a few books on the BDC conspiracy, and it's entertaining that people see skulls in shadows on walls on the back of records, but it's pure fantasy, come on.
I repeat: why would they do it? To freak Brian Epstein out so he'd leave John alone?
steevo
07-12-2007, 12:18 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8
phildee that video shows NOTHING. Waste of time.
adimon
07-12-2007, 12:26 AM
I am also convinced that Chapman was an MKUltra project to kill Lennon.
Why are you convinced about this EAG? Why would the CIA want to kill John Lennon?
I'm only surprised that they didn't take Lennon out a decade earlier.
Why?
What's more The change between Paul and "Faul" was sudden, not gradual.
What change?
1 2 free,
So someone else wrote the songs for the lookalike. They also allowed the lookalike to keep the royalties and become super rich? Doubt that very much mate to be honest.
If you'd written Hey Jude for example, would you let someone else keep all the cash from it?
Anyone could write the songs you say - pretty talented anyones out there.
I totall agree. I don't listen to Beatles much, but you've hit the nail on the head with Hey Jude - it's a classic.
i read that the songs where written by the tavistock institute ?
Why would they do that?
But why have new clues been inserted since then? There have been new clues as recently as 2006 in the commercial for the "Love" album. If it was just a publicity stunt conducted in the 60s, why bother continuing it nowadays?
My guess is the BDC conspiracy will continue long after Paul really IS dead. If people believe this they really will believe anything.
The film also suggests that the impersonator was the son of Aliester Crowley!
Is there any famous person that doesn't get linked to Crowley by someone or another? Could he be Jimmy Saville's father? :confused:;)
phildee3
07-12-2007, 05:20 AM
phildee that video shows NOTHING.
Nothing and everything is the same thing.
adimon
07-12-2007, 07:17 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/914/sgtpepper3an6.jpg
It doesn't say Paul in flowers, it's a guitar! Likewise, putting a mirror on the bass drum does not reveal a hidden message.
Here's one for you to all have a butchers at if you're seriously into this shit.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Original_We're_Only_in_It_for_the_Money_front_cove r.jpg
1 2 free
07-12-2007, 12:21 PM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x57/speakyourtruth/beatlesmirror1.jpg
It's supposed to say 1 ONE 1 X HE DIE with a pointer between the words 'he' and 'die' that points to Paul. Obviously the D looks more like a B though.
1 2 free
07-12-2007, 12:22 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8
Interesting stuff.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2013
i read that the songs where written by the tavistock institute ?
Why would they do that?
social engineering programme ? experimentation . a number of reasons .
If paul mc cartney rea lor imposter can write songs like hey jude then why cant someone else , its not like people as so lame and talentless that only the select few have any ability .The point is if any of this was true then we couldnt fathom tthe reasons for it anyway , and besides which if generations of stoners and beatles fans sit disecting secret meanings behind the symbolism in the songs and art work real or imagined maybe the beatles did the same thing to out of boredom or just to see how far it could go for a laugh, after all they are people too are'nt they? ! :D
howie
07-12-2007, 03:36 PM
That Sgt Pepper cover is from an updated CD, the mirror image from the original LP says "He Die".
So someone else wrote the songs for the lookalike. They also allowed the lookalike to keep the royalties and become super rich? Doubt that very much mate to be honest.
If you'd written Hey Jude for example, would you let someone else keep all the cash from it?
Faul never owned the rights to the songs, Northern Songs catalogue was sold to Michael Jacksons company & now belong to Sony. When the BBC ambushed him hiding at his scottish farm in 1969, they found derelict barns & a small run-down cottage, the interviewer remarked that it didn't look like it belonged to a multi-millionaire, John, George & Ringo were all filmed at their mansions in the same year & John Lennon sold his Tittenhurst Park mansion to Ringo Starr in 1971.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Compare the 2 men between 1964-67, in 64 Paul speaks in a higher pitch & softer tones than Faul in the 67 video, Paul blinks faster & more often than Faul, Paul has a lazy left eye, Faul doesn't. Faul says "you know" too much, he's over exaggerating the mannerisms & the accent, it's a poor impersonation of the Paul from 1964.
1 2 free
07-12-2007, 06:07 PM
That Sgt Pepper cover is from an updated CD, the mirror image from the original LP says "He Die".
I've got a vinyl copy. Not the first press but not a recent press either. I'll give it a scan and see what happens. :)
1 2 free
07-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Vinyl copy came out just the same so I tried trimming it a little tighter on the centre bar of the E and...
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x57/speakyourtruth/beatlesmirror2.jpg
The easiest way to settle this is to locate both actors who where the look alikes and interview them , if they are dead then show their families and cause of death certificates and graves etc that would solve the riddle , but maybe thats not the point maybe all in volved prefer it this way .If neither actor can be found that adds to the swap theory doesnt it ? :D
synak
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
That Sgt Pepper cover is from an updated CD, the mirror image from the original LP says "He Die".
Faul never owned the rights to the songs, Northern Songs catalogue was sold to Michael Jacksons company & now belong to Sony. When the BBC ambushed him hiding at his scottish farm in 1969, they found derelict barns & a small run-down cottage, the interviewer remarked that it didn't look like it belonged to a multi-millionaire, John, George & Ringo were all filmed at their mansions in the same year & John Lennon sold his Tittenhurst Park mansion to Ringo Starr in 1971.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4YN6ZEw7b4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WzBj0jJPmU
Compare the 2 men between 1964-67, in 64 Paul speaks in a higher pitch & softer tones than Faul in the 67 video, Paul blinks faster & more often than Faul, Paul has a lazy left eye, Faul doesn't. Faul says "you know" too much, he's over exaggerating the mannerisms & the accent, it's a poor impersonation of the Paul from 1964.
Wow great videos. The voice, physical appearance, eyes, personality, mood, etc. all seem so drastically different to me.
Interesting how Paul in 1964 speaks about retiring in a few years.
danucrom
15-12-2007, 09:57 PM
How Do You Sleep, John Lennon, 1971.
So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise
You better see right through that mother's eyes
Those freaks was right when they said you was dead
The one mistake you made was in your head
Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?
You live with straights who tell you you was king
Jump when your momma tell you anything
The only thing you done was yesterday
And since you're gone you're just another day
Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?
Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?
A pretty face may last a year or two
But pretty soon they'll see what you can do
The sound you make is muzak to my ears
You must have learned something in all those years
Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=GK7CLXHSr1M
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ab2pLpLkso&feature=related
synak
15-12-2007, 10:51 PM
1963
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7748/thankyourluckystars1963dx8.jpg
1964
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8828/edsullivan1964ux9.jpg
FAUL
http://i13.tinypic.com/85pxhqh.jpg
crazed
20-12-2007, 04:29 PM
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2255/paul66uq7.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5744/paul66av9.jpg
I first read about Paul being dead a couple of years ago and I thought it was absolute bullshit, but now having seen the evidence, I'm starting to think it isn't.
You can't say that the men in all those pictures look the same, whoever says that must be blind. The main difference I'm seeing is that the Paul on top (the real Paul) has a circular shaped face, while the Paul on the bottom (Faul) has an head that looks more like an oval.
Second thing I noticed was that the real Paul's face, when he's not smiling is much different than Faul's relaxed face-- Paul has sort of a frown on, while Faul has a smirk.
It just seems that they are two different people, and the main reason I thought this theory was bullshit a couple of years ago is because I'm about 20 years old right now and I grew up watching the old Faul in the media, etc.
I can see why some of you don't believe this. If Paul was replaced by Faul, then the people that did it, did a real good job of it. However I'd also like to say that if this did occur, then this is some really fucked up shit. I think the only way to know once and for all would be by comparing the voices, and also by going to Mccartney's parents, surely they would have seen if something was different about their son.
howie
20-12-2007, 08:08 PM
Right-handed guitar playing from Anthology Part 7 India 1968
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3048/rhqz5.jpg
I was going to say pictures can be reversed but the guitar is upside down on the pics the scratchplate being above , unless it weasnt his guitar i would assume that he had his own left handed ones so interesting pics ! :D
howie
20-12-2007, 08:22 PM
Practising his left-handed playing while recovering from a nose-job India 1968
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1559/nosedk9.jpg
howie
20-12-2007, 08:24 PM
I was going to say pictures can be reversed but the guitar is upside down on the pics the scratchplate being above , unless it weasnt his guitar i would assume that he had his own left handed ones so interesting pics ! :D
That's what I thought at first but it's from a video clip (Anthology Part 7 @ 49 mins).
drhemp
20-12-2007, 08:25 PM
OK the CIA murdered John Lennon, but they knew they couldn't get away with also assassinating Paul McCartney too, so they killed Macca and had him replaced with a double, who is still alive today and is the living Paul McCartney we now see on the telly.
You might ask how can you prove this? Simple.
The real Paul McCartney would have never written the Frog Song!
hagbard_celine
21-12-2007, 05:15 PM
The real Paul McCartney would have never written the Frog Song!
And Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time clinches it for me!:D
armoured_amazon
22-12-2007, 01:18 AM
I first read about Paul being dead a couple of years ago and I thought it was absolute bullshit, but now having seen the evidence, I'm starting to think it isn't.
Me too.... :confused:
mister lister
24-12-2007, 07:12 AM
Very interesting for sure,but I think that the original Paul is still alive today.Just a gut feeling.
A little off topic here but if anyone of the famous musicians that died and are still alive I am absolutely convinced that Jim Morrison is still alive.
You don't know how right you are. Paul was replaced in the sixties absolutely. But he needed a place to hide away. He is alive to this day.
Actually, Paul McCartney as we knew him in 1964 may not have tragically died, even though the evidence is conclusive that there was a second Paul in 1967. If you look around on that digilander bbs, you will find some interesting topics. Here is an example.
RINGO STARR-HIS OFFICIAL DOUBLE.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1138628000
And we also know the real Paul was not in photographs of the band post 1966. He just wasn't. That is a fact. http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/
So not only was there Neil Aspinall playing Paul in the late sixties, but in that Ringo link above from last time, there are evidently at least two Ringo impersonators. And we see that one of those impersonators was allegedly Neil Aspinall I. I. In other words, there could have been a second Neil? This makes sense at this digilander link, the 60 IF document allegedly penned by George, says that Aspinall had to be replaced with Aspinall II when the first Neil Aspinall went in to become Faul McCartney. Or maybe since that 60IF document has Paul dying, but Paul didn't, is it really genuine? Or was it truly written by George who couldn't let the whole truth out, only some bits hoping we would figure out the truth decades down the road. Maybe the real Paul McCartney and the real Neil Aspinall simply switched places.
Perhaps the real Aspinall and the real McCartney switched places and a second Aspinall was and is out there. Who knows. The point is, this post will lead to evidence showing that a man known as Aspiall was made into Paul McCartney and that the real Paul McCartney was made up differently and goes by Neil Aspinall.
GET READY FOR THE PROOF THAT PAUL IS STILL ALIVE AND NEVER DIED!
Here is Neil Aspinall today.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060330/images/060330biz_apple2.jpg
Here is Paul McCartney after a moped accident in the early to mid sixties.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7905/paulaxbj1.jpg
Some say this moped accident killed him but that is an error. Here is what wikipedia has to say.
McCartney was involved in a moped crash on December 26, 1965, which resulted in a chipped tooth and the scar on his lip that can be seen on promotional videos for the "Paperback Writer"/"Rain" single, made shortly after the crash, in May 1966.
See that, he was in a moped accident in 1965 and he lived. That picture is the real Paul.
Now look at the avatar of one of the users.
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/paul_as_aspinall.gif
Notice how the real Paul fades into this 'Neil Aspinall" of today.
Now look at this thread called Sadly....James Paul McCartney was REALLY bald.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1088065816&page=1
this thread takes an interesting turn because it claims that this Neil Aspinall from that singonsandiego is in fact the real Paul who was trying to avoid being knocked off. I think after the Beatles Jesus comment that was taken out of context, the KKK in the bible belt wanted to kill Paul and the Jewish manager Brian Epstein. We know that Don Knotts, American actor was recruited to portray Epstein.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=brian&action=display&thread=1073701943
Furthermore that PAUL IS BALD thread has someone who manages to pick out scars and skin faults on the exact same spots that you see Paul injured in that post moped accident picture. Namely his eyelid and his upper lip.
George Harrison had a double for photographs.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1135381973
John Lennon had a double for photographs.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1135418389
PAUL WAS REPLACED BUT HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ALIVE!!!
howie
24-12-2007, 05:07 PM
60if is fake
Apparently, Sun King channeled George Harrison's spirit and was possesed into writing the "document"... all being dictated by George's spirit. This version was confirmed by Sun King himself later on, on a conversation on MSN chat with LongJohn.
Investigating a little more on this version, Sun King admitted that the "document" was written straight into the computer (so NO document written on paper on Nepalese exists) and that the first draft didn't include the whole Brian/Frian thing
Aspinall is not Faul & Paul was not bald at 22, Mike McGear looked like this in 2003
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/507/39462353mcgearwoman300xga3.jpg
http://allthetruth.galeon.com/album900906.html
Iamaphoney on Youtube also uses some disinfo in his videos, though not as much as the debunkers say he does.
He overdubbed the audio on the James Paul McCartney TV special from the pub scene so it sounds like the old woman is saying "Hello Billy" to Faul when it's a couple standing behind her, which he cut from his version.
howie
29-12-2007, 01:29 AM
more right-handed guitars from The Compleat Beatles (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083752/)
1968
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9935/paul1968ue3.jpg
1969
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8468/paul1969ty2.jpg
cheeney1
05-01-2008, 02:58 PM
Paul McCartney Ain't Dead He's Very Much Alive..............
hagbard_celine
05-01-2008, 10:33 PM
Paul McCartney Ain't Dead He's Very Much Alive..............
How do you know?
cheeney1
05-01-2008, 10:50 PM
How do you know?
I know. why would they replace him for its just some crappy conspiracy from the sixities...........................
crazed
07-01-2008, 05:08 AM
I know. why would they replace him for its just some crappy conspiracy from the sixities...........................
Have you even looked at the pictures, the reason why a lot of people think its the same is because the two guys bear SOME resemblance. However what truly strikes me is how Mccartney's face and height changes so much in one year, and how come the 2nd Mccartney does shit with his RIGHT hand when the 1st Mccartney was a lefty. An example of this is when they scratch their chin: the 1st guy did it with his left hand and the 2nd with his right.
I can understand that at first glance, even if this is true, a lot of people will be saying: "SO WHAT?" Well I can tell you that if this was going on in the 60's then imagine what's going on today with more improved face changing technology and technique that is available and how it applies to the present.
The main point I'm stressing here, is not to write it off so fast unless you have visited the websites that document this.
accuracy
07-01-2008, 08:34 AM
The main point I'm stressing here, is not to write it off so fast unless you have visited the websites that document this.
You are informed too, crazed as others are ignorant or trolls!
:D:D
cheeney1
07-01-2008, 08:49 AM
Have you even looked at the pictures, the reason why a lot of people think its the same is because the two guys bear SOME resemblance. However what truly strikes me is how Mccartney's face and height changes so much in one year, and how come the 2nd Mccartney does shit with his RIGHT hand when the 1st Mccartney was a lefty. An example of this is when they scratch their chin: the 1st guy did it with his left hand and the 2nd with his right.
I can understand that at first glance, even if this is true, a lot of people will be saying: "SO WHAT?" Well I can tell you that if this was going on in the 60's then imagine what's going on today with more improved face changing technology and technique that is available and how it applies to the present.
The main point I'm stressing here, is not to write it off so fast unless you have visited the websites that document this.
The Only Thing Thats Dead, Is This Thread .................................................. .......
soglad
07-01-2008, 09:14 AM
This, is the definition of 'woo-woo'.
gonzo power
07-01-2008, 07:40 PM
This, is the definition of 'woo-woo'.
You're wrong.
_neo2_
10-01-2008, 09:12 PM
I thought i'd stumbled upon a paul is dead debunking site..turns out its from
The Psychology Department at the University of Glasgow's page on face recognition.
link below
http://staff.psy.gla.ac.uk/~mike/averages.html
(ESRC Project awarded to Mike Burton & Rob Jenkins)
Recognition of faces over a range such as this is a very difficult problem. Yet, for viewers familar with this person, it is easy to recognise all the different photos. The image-variability arises because of changes in the person (age, expression, pose, hairstyle etc), change in the capture device (cameras with different focal lengths, resolution etc), change in the viewing conditions (direction and degree of illumination), and many other variables For these reasons, most research on automatic face recognition avoids this level of variability.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/451/maccaaveal1.jpg
The Only Thing Thats Dead, Is This Thread .................................................. .......
Your right this story is old and not true
You are informed too, crazed as others are ignorant or trolls!
:D:D
Or are you a Troll? Why start a stupid argument??:p
synak
10-01-2008, 10:23 PM
I still believe he was replaced but I've recently begun pondering that perhaps the original Paul is alive though replaced. To be left alive is quite a privilege not easily granted I'd say, so it does bring about other questions as well.
hagbard_celine
10-01-2008, 11:42 PM
I know. why would they replace him for its just some crappy conspiracy from the sixities...........................
See what I wrote about Petra the Blue Peter dog.
See what I wrote about Petra the Blue Peter dog.
What they replaced him with petra the blue peter dog! :D
hagbard_celine
10-01-2008, 11:52 PM
What they replaced him with petra the blue peter dog! :D
No!:D:D
Scroll back through the thread and check my earlier posts.
The children's TV show "Blue Peter" always has pets in the studio. In 1962 they introduced a new puppy called Petra. Petra suddenly died a few days later and the show producers decided to go out and find another identical puppy and pretend that it was Petra. This was thought of as preferable to anouncing to the programme's young viewers the heartbreaking news that the puppy was dead. The secret replacement of petra was kept secret for 16years (presumably giving time for the show's 1962 audience to grow up).
I know replacing Paul McCartney with a double is far more extreme than Petra II, but the principle is the same.
I wonder how many people know. Did Linda, his first wife? Probably, but it wouldn't be hard to keep the secret from his second wife, Heather.
But he did have those puppy dog eyes im told by women of a certain age so maybe i was right ! :D
panic_stricken
12-01-2008, 07:21 PM
was reading earlier how he seems to have changed his football team from Everton to Liverpool
jimijams
13-01-2008, 04:10 AM
Starr vetoes Beatles gig
http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/starr-vetoes-beatles-gig/2008/01/12/1199988643775.html
splinterg
13-01-2008, 08:30 PM
Makes you wonder why the beatles stopped performing live? Has anyone tryed matching up autographs from different dates?
eternal_spirit
13-01-2008, 09:06 PM
People's faces can change gaining or loosing weight is one reason, drug useage another I'm still undecided if Paul is really Paul.:eek:
eternal_spirit
13-01-2008, 09:09 PM
was reading earlier how he seems to have changed his football team from Everton to Liverpool
............
LOL Plenty of blues fans have changed to reds. When's the last time Everton won anything. Hmm,. think I remember back in the 80's. :rolleyes: I'm still a blue.
daveybpl
13-01-2008, 10:37 PM
never trust a man who switches football teams;)
phildee3
13-01-2008, 10:52 PM
never trust a man who switches football teams;)
Nobody ever has, have they?
I've never known of it, anyway.
_neo2_
13-01-2008, 11:09 PM
Mccartney in the coming up video,that looks like a very difficult chord to grab for a right handed fretter..maybe the video is mirrored
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8712/pmzj8.jpg
the video's here;
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
byrdsmaniac
08-02-2008, 01:20 AM
Joyce Riley and Dave VonKleist of the radio show "The Power Hour" have reportedly been
speaking with "a man behind the scenes" involved with the Beatles, and they are going to
have him on as a guest (probably next week: Feb 11 -15).
They promise "reverberations that will go around the world",
saying that what will be revealed "will blow your mind".
The show airs 8 AM - 11 AM Eastern time (US), and can be heard on line here:
http://www.gcnlive.com/listenlive.htm (Click on your choice of players.)
on channel three, and possibly on the other channels as well.
The Power Hour website: http://thepowerhour.com/welcome.htm
byrdsmaniac
14-02-2008, 04:47 PM
ALERT! It's tentatively scheduled for tomorrow: Friday February 15th, 10 to 11 AM Eastern Time.
Warning: This is a tentative scheduling. There are some 'last minute details' that have to be worked out. :(
byrdsmaniac
15-02-2008, 02:48 PM
Postponed Indefinitely.
The Beatles guy will not be on "The Power Hour" today because they feared a possible
lawsuit from Miss Yoko, apparently. :mad: (Booooo!)
gnostic1
15-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Baristration documents to dissolve the Candaian parlianment persuant to war crimes has been laid at the lap of the ECONOMISTS and POLICY people for failing to secure the lives of 24 Canadians murdered during the 911 ff ops, per say... read the petition and pass it on to fellow Canadians... Now we have a single voice: use it or loose it my freinds... Mister Icke is right about many things; primary to me is his undeniable openess to the Truth, warts and all... Q: what else sets you free then exept working forward for a solution
So Say I...
A:All citizens have a right to live http:/www.wgpoc.blogspot.com,
...Until we meet again...
armoured_amazon
17-02-2008, 09:01 AM
I'm back and forth on this issue...but the older he gets, the less he looks like a McCartney...same with his son....
phildee3
17-02-2008, 09:26 AM
the older he gets, the less he looks like a McCartney
That's because the older he gets, the more dead he becomes.
angelicangel
17-02-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm back and forth on this issue...but the older he gets, the less he looks like a McCartney...same with his son....
Do you really look like when you was young, no one does, ageing makes every part of your body change, it's called the ageing process. If we was to stay looking young we would never be able to get things we really needed behind counters in newsagents, chemists and pubs.:D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=542362&in_page_id=1773
One man who might know woont be able to tell soon this guy was supposedly one of the stand ins for paul /faul
McCartney flies to bedside of 'Fifth Beatle' as he fights for life
By SHARON CHURCHER in New York and DANIEL COCHLIN in London - More by this author »
Last updated at 23:42pm on 22nd March 2008
Sir Paul McCartney has flown to New York to be at the bedside of the man known as "the Fifth Beatle" who was last night fighting for his life in hospital.
For more than 40 years, Neil Aspinall controlled the vast empire of the Fab Four.
Fab Five: Neil Aspinall with the Beatles in January 1964
A quiet, bespectacled accountant, he was their chief confidant and business adviser, took part in some of their more rebellious pranks and even sang backing vocals on Yellow Submarine.
But Mr Aspinall, 65, is believed to be suffering from lung cancer and has flown to New York from his London home for treatment at Manhattan's prestigious Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Centre.
A family friend said that Sir Paul had been to visit. "I understand that Paul saw him in hospital in New York," the friend said. "Paul will be devastated if he doesn't beat this. They have been mates ever since they were schoolboys in Liverpool."
The news of Mr Aspinall's condition will have come as a shattering blow for Sir Paul who has seen several loved ones and friends lose battles with cancer.
In 1998, breast cancer claimed his first wife Linda at 56, then George Harrison died of lung cancer at the age of 58 in 2001.
Aspinall at court in 2006 when The Beatles' Apple Corps sued computer giant Apple Inc
Cancer also claimed the life of the Beatles' long-time Press agent Derek Taylor in 1997 and Ringo Starr's first wife, Maureen Starkey, died from leukaemia in 1994 when she was 47.
The family friend said Mr Aspinall used to smoke, but gave up years ago.
Mr Aspinall was expected to build a career as a conventional accountant when he struck up a friendship with the young McCartney and Harrison after they all gained places at the Liverpool Institute.
Mr Aspinall once joked that they initially bonded over the illicit cigarettes that they would smoke behind the school's air-raid shelters.
"By the time we were ready to take the GCE exams, we'd added John Lennon to our 'Mad Lad' gang," he said.
Once they became the Beatles, they also experimented with drugs. Aspinall observed: "Quite a bit of marijuana was being smoked. It made recording a bit slower, but it didn't affect the quality of the work."
John Lennon claimed they smoked marijuana in the lavatories at Buckingham Palace when they collected their MBEs in 1965.
Mr Aspinall started work for the band as the £1-an-hour driver of their battered blue Commer van.
He had an affair with Mona Best, mother of the band's first drummer Pete Best, and in 1962 they had a son.
Sir Paul McCartney, this week, unwinds on a stroll around his Peasmarsh home after the gruelling divorce battle
He was with The Beatles – now with Ringo Starr as drummer – as they conquered America and even stood in for Harrison when the guitarist fell sick during the rehearsals for their first major TV show.
He also contributed to some recordings, playing percussion on Magical Mystery Tour and belting out the Yellow Submarine chorus.
But his real genius was as a money man and in 1968 he took over Apple Corps, the company the Beatles had set up to manage their business interests.
He took computer giant Apple Inc to court three times over image infringement and, in winning two of the suits, the Beatles' company was awarded more than £13.5million.
Just 11 months ago, he finally quit his job as Apple chief executive to run a small film company, Standby Films, from his home in Twickenham, Middlesex.
mister lister
08-04-2008, 03:51 AM
You don't know how right you are. Paul was replaced in the sixties absolutely. But he needed a place to hide away. He is alive to this day.
Actually, Paul McCartney as we knew him in 1964 may not have tragically died, even though the evidence is conclusive that there was a second Paul in 1967. If you look around on that digilander bbs, you will find some interesting topics. Here is an example.
RINGO STARR-HIS OFFICIAL DOUBLE.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1138628000
And we also know the real Paul was not in photographs of the band post 1966. He just wasn't. That is a fact. http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/
So not only was there Neil Aspinall playing Paul in the late sixties, but in that Ringo link above from last time, there are evidently at least two Ringo impersonators. And we see that one of those impersonators was allegedly Neil Aspinall I. I. In other words, there could have been a second Neil? This makes sense at this digilander link, the 60 IF document allegedly penned by George, says that Aspinall had to be replaced with Aspinall II when the first Neil Aspinall went in to become Faul McCartney. Or maybe since that 60IF document has Paul dying, but Paul didn't, is it really genuine? Or was it truly written by George who couldn't let the whole truth out, only some bits hoping we would figure out the truth decades down the road. Maybe the real Paul McCartney and the real Neil Aspinall simply switched places.
Perhaps the real Aspinall and the real McCartney switched places and a second Aspinall was and is out there. Who knows. The point is, this post will lead to evidence showing that a man known as Aspiall was made into Paul McCartney and that the real Paul McCartney was made up differently and goes by Neil Aspinall.
GET READY FOR THE PROOF THAT PAUL IS STILL ALIVE AND NEVER DIED!
Here is Neil Aspinall today.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060330/images/060330biz_apple2.jpg
Here is Paul McCartney after a moped accident in the early to mid sixties.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7905/paulaxbj1.jpg
Some say this moped accident killed him but that is an error. Here is what wikipedia has to say.
See that, he was in a moped accident in 1965 and he lived. That picture is the real Paul.
Now look at the avatar of one of the users.
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/paul_as_aspinall.gif
Notice how the real Paul fades into this 'Neil Aspinall" of today.
Now look at this thread called Sadly....James Paul McCartney was REALLY bald.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1088065816&page=1
this thread takes an interesting turn because it claims that this Neil Aspinall from that singonsandiego is in fact the real Paul who was trying to avoid being knocked off. I think after the Beatles Jesus comment that was taken out of context, the KKK in the bible belt wanted to kill Paul and the Jewish manager Brian Epstein. We know that Don Knotts, American actor was recruited to portray Epstein.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=brian&action=display&thread=1073701943
Furthermore that PAUL IS BALD thread has someone who manages to pick out scars and skin faults on the exact same spots that you see Paul injured in that post moped accident picture. Namely his eyelid and his upper lip.
George Harrison had a double for photographs.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1135381973
John Lennon had a double for photographs.
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1135418389
PAUL WAS REPLACED BUT HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ALIVE!!!
Remember this post? How Paul was alive? How he and Neil Aspinall switched places? And how Neil Aspinall today was the true Paul McCartney?
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/paul_mc_cartney_mccartney_yesterday_today.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/paul_mccartney_mc_cartney_asymmetry.jpg
FROM:
SADLY THE REAL MCCARTNEY WAS BALD. (http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1088065816&page=1)
Well this man we call Neil Aspinall, who was really Paul McCartney is now unfortunately, dead.
Stella McCartney and Yoko Ono's tearful embrace at funeral of 'Fifth Beatle' - but Macca stays away
By RICHARD SIMPSON and LAURA ROBERTS - More by this author »
Last updated at 00:58am on 8th April 2008
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=557854&in_page_id=1773
The Beatles he loved couldn't be there to say goodbye.
It was left to the women to pay the band's final respects to Neil Aspinall, the man who ran the group's business empire for 40 years and was known as the "fifth Beatle".
He died two weeks ago at 66 after a battle with lung cancer.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_02/1funeralNAT_468x353.jpg
Embrace: Stella McCartney and Yoko Ono comfort each other following the funeral of Neil Aspinall in Twickenham today
John Lennon's widow Yoko Ono, 75, and Sir Paul McCartney's daughter, the fashion designer Stella McCartney, 36, were among 250 mourners at yesterday's funeral at St Mary the Virgin near Mr Aspinall's home in Twickenham, South-West London.
The pair were seen warmly embracing along with Beatles producer Sir George Martin, 82, outside the funeral at the Church of St Mary the Virgin near Aspinall's home in Twickenham, south west London.
Ringo Starr's wife Barbara Bach, 60, and original Beatles member Pete Best, 66, also attended, as did The Who's guitarist Pete Townshend who arrived with a guitar under his hand to perform at the ceremony.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_02/funeral3BUTLER_468x347.jpg
Support: Yoko was joined by Ringo Starr's wife Barbara Bach
mister lister
08-04-2008, 05:18 AM
I still believe he was replaced but I've recently begun pondering that perhaps the original Paul is alive though replaced. To be left alive is quite a privilege not easily granted I'd say, so it does bring about other questions as well.
Exactly. Paul was replaced but was left alive. Until now since Aspinall (the real Paul) has just died.
seamus
08-04-2008, 05:30 AM
Mccartney in the coming up video,that looks like a very difficult chord to grab for a right handed fretter..maybe the video is mirrored
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8712/pmzj8.jpg
the video's here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvEQmyoP18E
Well, this is a day late and a dollar short, but that japanese writing on the shirt is NOT reversed.
S
accuracy
10-04-2008, 12:01 PM
Keep up the good work, mr lister! ;):D
numbersix
19-04-2008, 09:11 PM
I personally dont believe that Paul McCartney was substituted for someone else.
However if that really was the case, the second (fake) Paul McCartney is in fact a far better musician than the first and has written far better songs and much bigger hits such as Let it be, Hey Jude, Another day, Band on the run, Live and let die, the list is almost endless.
This rumour could easily be put to bed by testing the speech recognition patterns of the early Paul Mcccartney with the later version.
Also their signatures would be different as it is almost impossible to fake that and this would be noticed by large numbers of people eg banks when signed cheques were cashed.
diamond dogs
24-04-2008, 10:40 PM
Rare 1969 footage Get Back with Left handed Paul looking like Paul (I think)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
xxdinoxkarenxx
25-04-2008, 12:05 AM
how odd
peachped
25-04-2008, 12:09 AM
Or crap.
krakhead
25-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Does anyone remember when Kerrang printed the story that Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue was replaced? A guy actually took them to court claiming to have been the replacement or something?
I thought that story was ridiculous and feel pretty much the same about this one too.
Good work trying to prove it though!
quest
25-04-2008, 07:10 PM
"The Who's guitarist Pete Townshend who arrived with a guitar under his hand to perform at the ceremony".
I didn't realise what a huge hand Pete Townshead actually had :) Perhaps he even has two?!
phildee3
25-04-2008, 07:43 PM
"The Who's guitarist Pete Townshend who arrived with a guitar under his hand to perform at the ceremony".
I didn't realise what a huge hand Pete Townshead actually had :) Perhaps he even has two?!
I met him once.
He does!
One on the end of each arm...
belfast atheist
25-04-2008, 08:29 PM
ive said for years that elton john today is NOTHING LIKE the elton john of the 70's. the voice is totally different and they look nothing alike. i think the real one was replaced about 1982 by this version, dont know why though.
diamond dogs
25-04-2008, 09:38 PM
ive said for years that elton john today is NOTHING LIKE the elton john of the 70's. the voice is totally different and they look nothing alike. i think the real one was replaced about 1982 by this version, dont know why though.
A good case could also be made for George Michael looks different, changed to a different style split from Wham, off the scene for quite a while.....
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00206/Wham__206711a.jpg http://www.jkkonsult.se/nostalgi/rock/Wham!.jpg http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/musicians/george_michael_GI.jpg
humanswin
26-04-2008, 12:48 AM
No offense,but george michael looks excactly like he did plus aging.He changed his style I suppose when he went solo-but who would know his style anyway since wham was kind of a pre-fab set up?
howie
15-05-2008, 08:03 PM
Long Tall Faul 1966
Long Tall Paul - YouTube
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3984/longtallfaul1gr3.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/8291/longtallfaul2dj8.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2841/longtallfaul3mm9.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2540/ltf1cc7.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1976/ltf2iz3.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/78/ltf3fi9.jpg
emerald
15-05-2008, 08:47 PM
A good case could also be made for George Michael looks different, changed to a different style split from Wham, off the scene for quite a while.....
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00206/Wham__206711a.jpg http://www.jkkonsult.se/nostalgi/rock/Wham!.jpg http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/musicians/george_michael_GI.jpg
U could be rite, I heard that he was replaced too. Probably it happened after the SONY matter. I also was in doubt even before finding out about that. He mite be yet behind the curtain, writing/composing, while on the stage smb else is playing his role. Perhaps it sounds foolish but much too often he's wearing glasses. His replacement could have eyesight troubles worse than the original. Or they cover a surgical operation gone bad.
lightgiver
15-05-2008, 11:02 PM
U could be rite, I heard that he was replaced too. Probably it happened after the SONY matter. I also was in doubt even before finding out about that. He mite be yet behind the curtain, writing/composing, while on the stage smb else is playing his role. Perhaps it sounds foolish but much too often he's wearing glasses. His replacement could have eyesight troubles worse than the original. Or they cover a surgical operation gone bad.
i think its what you call, getting OLD?:)everyone here will look different in 20 yrs,its called the ageing process,you are not young forever,youth is very short so make the most of it,believe you me, ask anyone?
belfast atheist
18-05-2008, 09:14 AM
i think its what you call, getting OLD?:)everyone here will look different in 20 yrs,its called the ageing process,you are not young forever,youth is very short so make the most of it,believe you me, ask anyone?
elton johns appearance changed drastically in 3short years,deffo not the same person.
dereistic
18-05-2008, 09:24 AM
elton johns appearance changed drastically in 3short years,deffo not the same person.
If not the same person ... then who ?