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socrates

12-08-2009, 12:00 AM

Different height

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/paul_faul_ringo.jpg

LOL!!! That photo has been debunked so many times yet you keep dragging it up over and over and over as some kind of 'evidence'.

Seriously, what is up with you?

Sorry, but PIA has SCIENCE on it's side! :p

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4935/wa1906462.jpghttp://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g146/lilis456/dreamer2.jpg

High Angle
High angles make the object photographed seem smaller,

Low Angle
These increase height (useful for short actors like Tom Cruise or James McAvoy)

http://www.mediaknowall.com/camangles.html

Uses of Low Angle Shots: Camera Angles:

http://www.ehow.com/video_2384783_uses-low-angle-shots-camera.html

PID photos used as evidence to demonstrate that 'Faul' was taller than Paul are not valid - as the above PROVES conclusively.

SCIENCE has "proven" that camera angles alter our perception of a person's height. :D :D :D

Why can't PIDDERS accept the TRUTH? :eek:

formosan termite

12-08-2009, 09:52 PM

Here is an oldie but goodie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/eyecomp12pe.gif

Note. Three shots. One of pre '67 Paul and two of post '66 Paul.

Paul pre '67 shows dark green. One post '66 shows brown, the other green.

Shocking! The reason? Hazel eyes can shift color depending on the surroundings. They can sometimes look brown, sometimes green. This is backed up by several sources.

Here is a site that debunks the eye color change misrepresentation. It shows a couple of shots of Paul, pre 66 with green eyes.

http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html

formosan termite

12-08-2009, 09:53 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/GreenEyedPaul02.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/GreenEyedPaul03.gif

GREEN.

Someone said that Paul was NEVER seen with green eyes. I think we have shown this to be in error.

Is it easier to find post '66 images of Paul with green eyes? Yes. Why?

Simple. Paul McCartney started reaching stardom in 1963. So the pre '67 era lasted about 4 years, 63, 64, 65 and 1966. And most of the shots taken during that 4 year time frame were in black and white. Most of the TV images are in black and white. Hard Day's Night was in black and white. Black and white photography was much more common back then. Post 1966, color was more common. Their TV appearances were now more in color. The photos were mostly in color. And most of all, the photographs of post 1966 Paul cover a 43 year period as opposed to only 4. There is a much bigger population of available media to pull from.

formosan termite

12-08-2009, 09:54 PM

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4935/wa1906462.jpghttp://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g146/lilis456/dreamer2.jpg

Wow! Pre 1967 Paul was much taller than the other three! What happened post 1966? Did Paul shrink a couple of inches?

formosan termite

12-08-2009, 09:56 PM

(See what I did there? :D )

How did I know you were going to come out with that nonsense?

LOL. 'They don't look green'!

Unbelievable! Do you actually believe what you are writing?

Seriously?

WTF?

You'd insist black was white if it helped PID. :rolleyes:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8529/colorgal08.jpghttp://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7118/2zois6c.jpg

If you cannot see the similarity between the colour of those two eyes then you need to see an eye specialist!

Sure looks green to me. Sure as hell ain't brown.

theenlightenedone

12-08-2009, 09:58 PM

Looks more yellow-ish to me, but whatever. It's still not brown :p:D

faulconandsnowjob

13-08-2009, 06:56 AM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/1966_comp_effects.jpg

fireman

13-08-2009, 08:01 AM

I don't no what you try to say with those photoshop presets..

Take a hard look at these Faulcon:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/crusher_fiddy.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/fiddy1106.jpg

aah, what the heck, look at all these different expressions and angles: ALWAYS THE SAME:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/diverse%20photos/PIA-collage.gif

his facial features PERFECTLY match

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/classic_fade1.gif

same dude

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/sidebyside2.gif

AND PAUL WAS ALWAYS TALLER THEN RINGO!!!

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/diverse%20photos/1-1.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/diverse%20photos/beatles-7.jpg

..in a row, sorted by height
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/diverse%20photos/row.jpg

oh yeah and...

facial features MATCH

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/diverse%20photos/avatarf.gif

what else is there to say?

P.I.A.
:cool:

theenlightenedone

13-08-2009, 08:29 AM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/1966_comp_effects.jpg

WOW! I can also apply filters in Photoshop :D

accuracy

13-08-2009, 10:00 AM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/1966_comp_effects.jpg

A great you tube signature you have there, faulcondsnowjob! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/user/faulconandsnowjob

socrates

13-08-2009, 02:56 PM

A great you tube signature you have there, faulcondsnowjob! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/user/faulconandsnowjob

Faul began promoting LSD use & the drug culture in interviews.

http://www.youtube.com/user/faulconandsnowjob
Completely untrue. :rolleyes:

formosan termite

13-08-2009, 03:34 PM

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/comps/Mr%20Potato%20Faul/MPF-FP-MASTERPIECE.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/eyeswideopen-1.gif

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/faul_spies_george.gif

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/6723962_b4865592c5-1.gif

Same person.

formosan termite

13-08-2009, 03:39 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/eye01an1yu.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/eye02an0rz.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/eye03an3mw.gif

Same quirk in the iris. Same guy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/ear.gif

Same ear. Same guy.

faulconandsnowjob

14-08-2009, 05:03 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/JamesPaul_Unedited.jpg

theenlightenedone

14-08-2009, 08:17 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/JamesPaul_Unedited.jpg

Where's the long face Faulcon? "Paul's" face looks much longer than "Faul's" ;)

formosan termite

14-08-2009, 08:03 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/JamesPaul_Unedited.jpg

Again a comp using a fuzzy out-of-focus picture.

faulconandsnowjob

15-08-2009, 12:40 AM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/mmt_paul_faul.jpg

theenlightenedone

15-08-2009, 01:24 AM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/mmt_paul_faul.jpg

Again, where is the long face? :D Only strange thing I see in the post-pid pic is the upper lip. Looks like he got a fat-lip somehow. Maybe he was in a a fight ;) Or it's just some ellergic reaction or something. PIDers call it lip filler :D That doesn't look like a very good lip filler. You would think the illuminati does a better job at such things :rolleyes:

faulconandsnowjob

15-08-2009, 07:52 AM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/66_paul_faul.jpg

socrates

15-08-2009, 01:05 PM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/66_paul_faul.jpg

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt130/skyofblue/john.jpg?t=1250187909

I know Paul is dead, but I can't prove it.

:rolleyes:

theenlightenedone

15-08-2009, 02:57 PM

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/66_paul_faul.jpg

No long face here either ;) When you try to promote the long face, the choose pictures that show a longer face. But when you're not trying to promote that, Paul's head seems to be the same height. That proves that you are very selective when it comes to photos and have to find pictures where Paul looks as much different as possible.

formosan termite

15-08-2009, 03:22 PM

Again, where is the long face? :D Only strange thing I see in the post-pid pic is the upper lip. Looks like he got a fat-lip somehow. Maybe he was in a a fight ;) Or it's just some ellergic reaction or something. PIDers call it lip filler :D That doesn't look like a very good lip filler. You would think the illuminati does a better job at such things :rolleyes:

Looks to me as if he is whistling.

theenlightenedone

15-08-2009, 03:42 PM

Looks to me as if he is whistling.

Maybe, but do lips really blow up like that when you whistle? Never seen anyone whistling like that before :eek: :p

clint web

15-08-2009, 03:54 PM

If forensic science had PROVEN that Paul McCartney had been replaced by an imposter, It would be world news - no doubt about that!

formosan termite

15-08-2009, 06:14 PM

Maybe, but do lips really blow up like that when you whistle? Never seen anyone whistling like that before :eek: :p

Sure they can, depending on the note you are trying to reach.

formosan termite

15-08-2009, 06:17 PM

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt130/skyofblue/john.jpg?t=1250187909

:rolleyes:

Now those pictures of John look different. The shape of the face is not similar. Interesting.

faulconandsnowjob

15-08-2009, 06:18 PM

Here's a collage of Faul's lovely fake ears. :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/Theearcollage.jpg

formosan termite

16-08-2009, 12:12 AM

Here's a collage of Faul's lovely fake ears. :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/Theearcollage.jpg

Oh no. The rubble ear theory.

Sorry.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/ear.gif

Same ear. Same guy.

faulconandsnowjob

17-08-2009, 03:02 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/PB1965_1974.jpg

mind1universe

17-08-2009, 03:42 AM

Oh no. The rubble ear theory.

Sorry.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/ear.gif

Same ear. Same guy.

That is not the same ear, you obviously don't have attention to detail. Paul lower tip is rounder than Faul.

Look at the lips its also different. The jaw of faul is more pointed look its clearly obvious.

formosan termite

17-08-2009, 10:05 AM

That is not the same ear, you obviously don't have attention to detail. Paul lower tip is rounder than Faul.

Look at the lips its also different. The jaw of faul is more pointed look its clearly obvious.

No, it is the same ear. Look at the inner structure. It is the same. The lower tip changes over time. It is made up of tough areolar and fatty tissue, lacking the firmness and elasticity of the rest of the outer ear, and over time it droops more and changes shape. Unfortunately, this drooping starts in the early twenties and continues over time. That is common knowledge. You can find info about it on sites dealing with plastic surgery.

The lips are also just muscle and soft tissue. They are not carved in stone. The shape can vary widly between pictures because people can move their lips and change the shape.

formosan termite

17-08-2009, 10:22 AM

http://img42.exs.cx/img42/5940/earcompare1.jpg

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3893/ear.gif

boots

17-08-2009, 10:44 AM

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt130/skyofblue/john.jpg?t=1250187909

:rolleyes:

Yup, Judging by these two photo's of John. He has been replaced.

I want too see a JID thread:eek:

You can see how a year or two, especially when you are young, can have a huge impact on appearances.

ph0neyprophet

17-08-2009, 12:06 PM

Yup, Judging by these two photo's of John. He has been replaced.

I want too see a JID thread:eek:

You can see how a year or two, especially when you are young, can have a huge impact on appearances.

Wait, wait, I have a better one for you.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1544/lennone.jpg

That was taken in.. Ohh, I don't know -- 1968?

How can John Lennon look so mysteriously different in 1967 and then all of a sudden have the facial features of the original looking John?

Well, for starts, he's playing left handed. Now, I know how many people will simply say "Oh, somebody flipped that image" and you might be right, but you know who modified that? Apple. Second, that still shot was in a Youtube video [which I can't find anymore, and I regret not taking another screenshot] and apparently, this photo of "John" isn't actually him. Go figure, it's Paul!

If anyone has seen the video of Helter Skelter on Youtube a while ago [starts off with a bunch of Beatle pictures going along with the guitar riff] or you've seen the actual clip.. it'll be a little helpful, lol.

So basically if you're looking for a new theory:

- Paul got lazy and left

- John got infuriated and instead of breaking the band apart, decided to become "Paul" and he eventually got a double to take over as him

- John dubbed the "Paul is Dead" as a way of expressing how he felt about Paul.

- After all of the success the years following, Paul decides to come back [which explains the images after the supposed 'death' where it is clearly James Paul McCartney] and since John's replacement is doing the duties, John goes on his own vacation.

- The band breaks up, and since John had nowhere else to go being that his marriage was ruined amongst other things, decided to remain as Paul's double.

After the breakup, John's replacement is eventually killed. The real John and Paul have been standing in for each other ever since, and when one is on vacation after writing records, the other will take over for another couple of years to make more albums, before they switch again..

They have even sung different lines in the same song..

Sub - YouTube

faulconandsnowjob

17-08-2009, 05:36 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/James_Paul_McCartney_And_The_Faker.jpg

formosan termite

17-08-2009, 07:00 PM

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/khanmfh/fades/agingfp.gif

Same face.

formosan termite

17-08-2009, 07:01 PM

http://img42.exs.cx/img42/5940/earcompare1.jpg

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3893/ear.gif

faulconandsnowjob

18-08-2009, 04:09 AM

That is not the same ear, you obviously don't have attention to detail. Paul lower tip is rounder than Faul.

Look at the lips its also different. The jaw of faul is more pointed look its clearly obvious.

No, it isn't the same ear. That was something forensics proved, too. It's one thing to say they "look" the same, but quite another to do a biometrical analysis.

faulconandsnowjob

18-08-2009, 04:11 AM

If forensic science had PROVEN that Paul McCartney had been replaced by an imposter, It would be world news - no doubt about that!

Right, b/c they always report the truth - 9/11, JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, etc. :p

mind1universe

18-08-2009, 04:12 AM

No, it is the same ear. Look at the inner structure. It is the same. The lower tip changes over time. It is made up of tough areolar and fatty tissue, lacking the firmness and elasticity of the rest of the outer ear, and over time it droops more and changes shape. Unfortunately, this drooping starts in the early twenties and continues over time. That is common knowledge. You can find info about it on sites dealing with plastic surgery.

The lips are also just muscle and soft tissue. They are not carved in stone. The shape can vary widly between pictures because people can move their lips and change the shape.

It's not the same ear, look at the bottom of it. Fake paul has a sharper edge running down the tip. All the features on fauls face is sharper than Paul. BTW where is the

Paul lookalike anyway?

You obviously don't have attention to detail. The bone strucrure in both faces are different. The ridge of the eyes and tip of the jawline are very different. The lips are different too.

mind1universe

18-08-2009, 04:15 AM

http://img42.exs.cx/img42/5940/earcompare1.jpg

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3893/ear.gif

you jusst highlighted the ear that is on that same pic. (very clever lol)

NOW Put fauls pic on it now. Don't bluff ffs. I'm not an idiot.

It's not Paul dance around the bush if you like

Fauls ear is sharper than pauls. You don't have the skill in attention to detail. I would suggest do NOT take it up as a hobby. I'm a master of this area.

mind1universe

18-08-2009, 04:23 AM

mind1universe

18-08-2009, 04:40 AM

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Check 1.40 This is where he looks to Lettermans reaction of approval. He obviously is thinking if David Letterman is been revealing in his questioning. He certainly did the double look back in the hope that his defensive response validated David lettermans question.

Check 1.51.
He really is jittery at this point touching his mouth, fiddling his fingers and touching his nose and haviing long blinking. The blinking span shows hes trying to afirm his mind hes is not here. He's showing stress and moving darting his eyes back and forth with his hand up to his face is revealing that. The prolonged blinking is his subconscious playing here.
If you pick up on subtle ques. BAM its blue in your face.

I won't be surprised that people can't see it though. But you need to get it into your head that the body never lies.

He was very perturbed at this point. His eyes were dissonance and and

faulconandsnowjob

18-08-2009, 06:47 AM

They don't have the same eyes.
No, they're different colors, for one thing

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9939/001crl.jpg

The guy that is Paul now is not the same spirit. Paul was a lot more down to earth and grounded than this guy.
Yeah... Paul was cool & funny. Faul is just a fraud. He's kind of dickish, too.

Paul McCartney -- Mocking Dude's Bad English?
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/10/paul-mccartney-mocking-dudes-bad-english/5#comments

His facial features are softer and more rounder.
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphis_66_comp.jpg

faulconandsnowjob

18-08-2009, 06:52 AM

It's not the same ear, look at the bottom of it. Fake paul has a sharper edge running down the tip. All the features on fauls face is sharper than Paul...

No, it's not the same ear.

... Technically called trago. All we have two, one by ear, but the characteristics are different for every human being. "In Germany, a recognition procedure craniometrico, identification of the right ear even tantamount to fingerprint, ie the collection of fingerprints," recalls Carlesi. But what trago? It is the small cartilage covered with skin that overhangs the entrance to the ear and ear canal, like the whole ear, not be changed surgically. How then to explain the differences between the right ear of Paul McCartney in a previous snapshot to 1966 and probably a built in the late nineties? It is not only to betray trago a different conformation as well as other parts, just above the ear canal entrance, measurements and dell'antelice propeller. Things that ordinary mortals might seem irrelevant or unclear, but instead, every day, allowing the experts to locate and identify persons, bodies, photographs...

********************/mw83db

http://jojoplace.org/Shoebox/Wired_Italy_August_2009/Wired_Ear_Crop.jpg

You can see the different conformation of piercing A (billobato before the 1966) the different performance of ellce and the different amplezza of antelice and of the valley. Do not coincide even the proportions between the various points Litania-from antelice and incisura pretagica (or the depression between Piercing and antitrago).

boots

18-08-2009, 10:36 AM

Wait, wait, I have a better one for you.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1544/lennone.jpg

That was taken in.. Ohh, I don't know -- 1968?

How can John Lennon look so mysteriously different in 1967 and then all of a sudden have the facial features of the original looking John?

Well, for starts, he's playing left handed. Now, I know how many people will simply say "Oh, somebody flipped that image" and you might be right, but you know who modified that? Apple. Second, that still shot was in a Youtube video [which I can't find anymore, and I regret not taking another screenshot] and apparently, this photo of "John" isn't actually him. Go figure, it's Paul!

If anyone has seen the video of Helter Skelter on Youtube a while ago [starts off with a bunch of Beatle pictures going along with the guitar riff] or you've seen the actual clip.. it'll be a little helpful, lol.

So basically if you're looking for a new theory:

- Paul got lazy and left

- John got infuriated and instead of breaking the band apart, decided to become "Paul" and he eventually got a double to take over as him

- John dubbed the "Paul is Dead" as a way of expressing how he felt about Paul.

- After all of the success the years following, Paul decides to come back [which explains the images after the supposed 'death' where it is clearly James Paul McCartney] and since John's replacement is doing the duties, John goes on his own vacation.

- The band breaks up, and since John had nowhere else to go being that his marriage was ruined amongst other things, decided to remain as Paul's double.

After the breakup, John's replacement is eventually killed. The real John and Paul have been standing in for each other ever since, and when one is on vacation after writing records, the other will take over for another couple of years to make more albums, before they switch again..

They have even sung different lines in the same song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHos0LhTZRY

*nods head approvingly*

By George I think you got it.

BTW Do you thing George was replaced??

boots

18-08-2009, 10:45 AM

They don't have the same eyes. The new paul has had a lot of facial surgury, No harm in having "a lookalike Paul to look more like Paul"

Oh and Fauls bodylanguage at interviews is like a leaking tap.

:D

If you catch my drift. Can't hide the fact the tap is leaking can you.

99% of the world are almost stupid anyway and wouldn't notice anything anyway. But it takes the 1percent to actually get the truth out there. The guy that is Paul now is not the same spirit. Paul was a lot more down to earth and grounded than this guy. His facial features are softer and more rounder. Over the years Paul had more facial surgery to have his features age like Paul would.

The bones is the mans faces spoil it though. They do not have the same faical structure despite been extremely alike.

You are full of shit.

Do you know Paul McCartney personally do you. So you know what the guy is thinking with his body language from year to year.
moment to moment.

Yep. Done an Xray on his bone structure? No of course not.

99% of the world is stupid!!! so the 1% are the smart ones. When I see this thread on here and know that people from across the world look at the Icke forum and see this . It's sad
.

formosan termite

18-08-2009, 03:41 PM

Paul walks funny.

http://www.paulisnotdead.com/media/blogs/pind/video/pdangle1.gifhttp://www.paulisnotdead.com/media/blogs/pind/video/pdangle2.gif

Same mannerisms.

formosan termite

18-08-2009, 03:43 PM

They were sloppy there for a while, showing Faul's green eyes, etc. I guess they got over-confident no one would catch on. Well, we have.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9939/001crl.jpg

**Sigh**

Paul has hazel eyes.

Paul McCartney himself said in 1965 that he has hazel eyes.

Yes, hazel eyes can look green as has been proven here many times over.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/eye01an1yu.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/eye02an0rz.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/devilsadv/eye03an3mw.gif

Three shots. One on left is pre 1967 Paul with hazel eye showing green. Next is post 1966 Paul showing brown and the last, post 1966 Paul showing green.

As has been demonstrated here with many sources, hazel eyes can shift from brown to green depending on the conditions.

Yes. Hazel eyes can look green.

formosan termite

18-08-2009, 03:45 PM

formosan termite

18-08-2009, 03:49 PM

you jusst highlighted the ear that is on that same pic. (very clever lol)

NOW Put fauls pic on it now. Don't bluff ffs. I'm not an idiot.

It's not Paul dance around the bush if you like

Fauls ear is sharper than pauls. You don't have the skill in attention to detail. I would suggest do NOT take it up as a hobby. I'm a master of this area.

You obviously do not pay attention to detail. It is a fade using the ear of pre '67 Paul and the one of the older Paul. It is not the same picture. You can see the added fatty tissue in the ear lobe in the older Paul, as happens with old age. You can also see that the hair of the sideburn matches the photo of the older Paul on the right. I guess your attention to detail didn't notice that one is in color and the other is not. You're a master in this area? LOL!

formosan termite

18-08-2009, 03:53 PM

Over the years Paul had more facial surgery to have his features age like Paul would.

I'm glad that now you at least admit it is Paul.

socrates

18-08-2009, 06:19 PM

They don't have the same eyes.

Oh yeah?

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3931/eyes5.jpg

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to point out all the differences in the comp above then?

The new paul has had a lot of facial surgury, No harm in having "a lookalike Paul to look more like Paul"

Then kindly produce the photos which show all his surgery scars. So far you've produced nothing.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

faulconandsnowjob

18-08-2009, 06:46 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/Handwriting.jpg

top from Paul

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/KV_paul_note.jpg

bottom from Faul

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/Faul20letter.jpg

mind1universe

18-08-2009, 10:51 PM

Same mannerisms. Same walk. Same run. Same guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNhTU6iBzDk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmaccafunhouse%2Eproboards%2Ecom% 2Findex%2Ecgi%3Fboard%3Dpid%26action%3Ddisplay%26t hread%3D3849&feature=player_embedded#t=92

They don't even look the same in some vids, faul clearly has sharper long facial features. and yes everything is all done to make him look like Paul.

It's not Rocket science

What is your agenda anyway.
They are clearly two different people. Also tell me where William Campbell is.

faulconandsnowjob

18-08-2009, 11:06 PM

What is your agenda anyway.
They are clearly two different people.

Yes, I'd like to know that, too.

Does Faul speak German or Spanish?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/postcard1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/postcard2.jpg

humito

18-08-2009, 11:10 PM

socrates

18-08-2009, 11:52 PM

They don't even look the same in some vids, faul clearly has sharper long facial features. and yes everything is all done to make him look like Paul.

It's not Rocket science

What is your agenda anyway.
They are clearly two different people. Also tell me where William Campbell is.

Your apparent inability to answer my questions is telling....

They don't have the same eyes.

Oh yeah?

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3931/eyes5.jpg

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to point out all the differences in the comp above then?

The new paul has had a lot of facial surgury, No harm in having "a lookalike Paul to look more like Paul"

Then kindly produce the photos which show all his surgery scars. So far you've produced nothing.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

socrates

18-08-2009, 11:55 PM

hello faulcon ,can i have the pics of "fauls" extensive surgery scars please ??

the ones you said you had and promised to post ??

the ones you asked if anyone had on a pid forum ??? lol

what a joke

Agreed! :D

She hasn't got any. Just mere empty words - yet again.

Just what is her agenda? :)

socrates

18-08-2009, 11:57 PM

and yes everything is all done to make him look like Paul.

Then why are the illuminati publishing articles infering Paul was replaced? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

There are so many holes in your theories I could make my own golf course. :eek:

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 12:37 AM

Then why are the illuminati publishing articles infering Paul was replaced? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

There are so many holes in your theories I could make my own golf course. :eek:

When the liar exposes the truth that is to unbelievable it makes it more unbelievable. Since your programmed to think the liar is never the one to expose it in the first place. The Illuminati know to well that most people are moronic. Excuse the word I posed, but I have to get the point across. We are all victim to the real lack of awareness these days.

In other words the truth is all around you and people can't put 2 and 2 to = 4. But the truth is nobody is going to stand up to them regardless if the truth is out. It's gone to the point any lie can be so obvious, but people don't want to believe that these kind of things happen in reality.

You know for example of the Illuminati exposing things to you

End of the world or major cataclysms(which will happen)

2012 hysteria (Is happening but they rather expose it and make fear so people don't see the truth)

JFK, (exposing his death like its some sort of Conspiracy)

9/11. (We all know that one)

Life on mars (expose it in a off the wall theory, so people don't question it or believe it)

Planet X exposure ( It's very real, but in other to hide the truth, expose it as a theory rather than make anything official, for anything that doesn't make sense is automatically removed from your awareness)

Staging elections and playing politics ( They lie all the time everywhere you look, but you don't see it

The most obvious one right now would be? ... ... ... NWO?? !! Something very controlling and sinister. They are exposing it blue in your face. But are you doing anything about it. They are deceiving you, are you aware of that. They are disrespecting your freedom. Are you challenging them?

In other words do you really see it yet. The game plays when the chess pieces move. The Illuminati want you to move. This shows their own power at work. Simple. Simple simple.

PID means nothing in this game. Just a replacement. It's not like any of you actually see that hes replaced anyway. If I were the game player in this case. I would expose it in your face too. What are you gonna do?

The Illuminati make this game, and there is nothing you can do to stop anything they do, because you can't even get your head around the fact they even enjoy exposing it blue in your face while you sit there in disbelief

They expose the PID, because they want your reaction. To prove a point. The Matrix trilogy is a classic example of the coming times packed with symbols showing you how the society is been run to a point by them, but since they are the game player they are waiting for someone to challenge them. It's is their own subconscious at work here. I call Hollywood and the media the subconscious mind of the Illuminati. They literally show you everything all the time. They play out these realities because they don't reveal their conscious projections to the public. Most people are only aware of the conscious reality. The Illuminati have the upper hand and can play your minds like your a subject of their own will. They are the masters of this matrix. Can you stop them ?

They know your not going to believe he is dead, so they enjoy the ride. So you can keep rolling your eyes at the reality in front of you, but this message should give you a wake up call.

socrates

19-08-2009, 12:53 AM

When the liar exposes the truth that is to unblievable it makes it more unbelievable. The Illuminati know to well that most people are moronic. In other words the truth is alll around you and people can't put 2 and 2 to = 4. But the truth is nobody is going to stand up to them regardless if the truth is out. It's gone to the point any lie can be so obvious, but people don't want to believe that these kind of things happen in reality.

You know for example of the illuminati exposing things to you

End of the world or major catclysms(which will happen)

2012 hysteria (Is happening but they rather expose it and make fear so people don't see the truth)

JFK, (exposing his death like its some sort of Conspiracy)

9/11. (We all know that one_

Life on marss (expose it in a off the wall theory, so people don't question it or believe it)

Planet X exposure ( It's very real, but in other to hide the truth, expose it as a theory rather than make anything official, for anything that doesn't make sense is autmatically removed from your awareness)

Staging elections and playing politics ( They lie all the time everywhere you look, but you don't see it

The most obvious one right now would be? ... ... ... NWO?? !! Something very controlling and sinister. They are exposing it blue in your face. But are you doing anything about it. They are decieving you, are you aware of that. They are disrespecting your freedom. Are you challenging them?

In other words do you really see it yet.

PID means nothing in this game. Just a replacement. It's not like any of you actually see that hes replaced anyway. If I were the game player in this case. I would expose it in your face too. What are you gonna do?

The illuminati make this game, and there is nothing you can do to stop anything they do, because you can't even get your head around the fact they even enjoy exposing it blue in your face while you sit there in disabelief

They expose the PID, because they want your reaction. To prove a point. The Matrix trilogy is a classic example of the coming times, but since they are the game player they are waiting for someone to challenge them. I call Hollywood and the media the subconscious mind of the Illuminati. They literally show you everything all the time. They play out these realities because they don't reveal their conscious projections to the public. Most people are only aware of the conscious reality. The Illuminati have the upper hand and can play your minds like your a subject of their own will. They are the masters of this matrix. Can you stop them ?

They know your not going to believe he is dead, so they enjoy the ride.
Imaginative theories - no evidence for any of it though. :rolleyes:

So according to you the illuminati have been doctoring photos of Paul McCartney for 40 years and yet they know people are moronic and "can't put 2 and 2 to = 4."?

So why did they bother doctoring photos?

You argument doesn't make sense whatsoever. :rolleyes:

'The illuminati like playing games blah blah.....'

You're just repeating the same lame conspiracy garbage you've read.

You're a repeater. You read something..... You repeat it.

Lame.

Think for yourself.

Open your eyes.

humito

19-08-2009, 12:56 AM

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 01:02 AM

No the evidence is clear.

You refuse to see it.

Imagine im the chess player owner, and I played out this reality to you, all of it like the things that have have happened over the years.

Since your not aware, I would look at the chess board and even bloody show you what I did, but you wont see it. Because your programmed in a way where you want the system to tell you what you are, who you are and what is the truth of everything through evidence given to you.

In other words, you want faul to write you a letter saying this

"Hi Socrates, My name is William Campbell" I'm good at this shit i know. I'm paul haha, you want evidence. I know you can't see how good we people can trick you. For life is a game ;). We all like to play tricks on people ya know. But I want to tell you that Yes it's me. It's getting painfully boring that people don't actually get it yet. But If you don't believe me I will call you too show where Paul Is buried. I want just know that your fed up and you want answers. So I thought it would be good to take the time out and spill the beans. Well I'm off to play golf. I just love the Paul McCartney life.

All the Best
William Campbell.

But since the game player will play you around they obviously don't want to end the game like that now.

In other words wake up and smell the coffee beans.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 01:04 AM

what is it in the beatles music and in mc cartneys solo career that was so important for the illuminati to get across that they killed and replaced paul...........name the songs that are brainwashing us.........why spend what would have been millions replacing him? for what end?

there is no reason for it.

There is a reason.

Because they can.

There is also another reason.

Your reacting.

There, mission of the game completed.

See it yet, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I guess not.

boots

19-08-2009, 01:11 AM

There is a reason.

Because they can.

There is also another reason.

Your reacting.

There, mission of the game completed.

See it yet, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I guess not.

WHAT!!!!

The brotherhood DONT do things because they can. They do things for a purpose.

The PID things has NO bearing at all on the control of society. Ridiculous.

lostworld

19-08-2009, 01:15 AM

When the liar exposes the truth that is to unbelievable it makes it more unbelievable. Since your programmed to think the liar is never the one to expose it in the first place. The Illuminati know to well that most people are moronic. Excuse the word I posed, but I have to get the point across. We are all victim to the real lack of awareness these days.

In other words the truth is all around you and people can't put 2 and 2 to = 4. But the truth is nobody is going to stand up to them regardless if the truth is out. It's gone to the point any lie can be so obvious, but people don't want to believe that these kind of things happen in reality.

You know for example of the Illuminati exposing things to you

End of the world or major cataclysms(which will happen)

2012 hysteria (Is happening but they rather expose it and make fear so people don't see the truth)

JFK, (exposing his death like its some sort of Conspiracy)

9/11. (We all know that one)

Life on mars (expose it in a off the wall theory, so people don't question it or believe it)

Planet X exposure ( It's very real, but in other to hide the truth, expose it as a theory rather than make anything official, for anything that doesn't make sense is automatically removed from your awareness)

Staging elections and playing politics ( They lie all the time everywhere you look, but you don't see it

The most obvious one right now would be? ... ... ... NWO?? !! Something very controlling and sinister. They are exposing it blue in your face. But are you doing anything about it. They are deceiving you, are you aware of that. They are disrespecting your freedom. Are you challenging them?

In other words do you really see it yet. The game plays when the chess pieces move. The Illuminati want you to move. This shows their own power at work. Simple. Simple simple.

PID means nothing in this game. Just a replacement. It's not like any of you actually see that hes replaced anyway. If I were the game player in this case. I would expose it in your face too. What are you gonna do?

The Illuminati make this game, and there is nothing you can do to stop anything they do, because you can't even get your head around the fact they even enjoy exposing it blue in your face while you sit there in disbelief

They expose the PID, because they want your reaction. To prove a point. The Matrix trilogy is a classic example of the coming times packed with symbols showing you how the society is been run to a point by them, but since they are the game player they are waiting for someone to challenge them. It's is their own subconscious at work here. I call Hollywood and the media the subconscious mind of the Illuminati. They literally show you everything all the time. They play out these realities because they don't reveal their conscious projections to the public. Most people are only aware of the conscious reality. The Illuminati have the upper hand and can play your minds like your a subject of their own will. They are the masters of this matrix. Can you stop them ?

They know your not going to believe he is dead, so they enjoy the ride. So you can keep rolling your eyes at the reality in front of you, but this message should give you a wake up call.

Excellent post! :)

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 01:15 AM

WHAT!!!!

The brotherhood DONT do things because they can. They do things for a purpose.

The PID things has NO bearing at all on the control of society. Ridiculous.

It does control you,

It controlled your reality at this point. You and I are talking about it. The thing is there doesn't have to be a purpose.

When you are an illuminator you decide what you want to do or create in reality right now. And off you go. Life is a game. That is it. No need for the wishy washy logical answer for everything. Just be aware of where your at and what you contributing to this reality.

There is a lot of sense of having the PID scenario. They wanted a replacement. They did it. Now everyone got on with their lives. They still contributed millions for the fraud.

No need to explain anything more. They do it because they can. The purpose doesn't really concern you or even need to matter.

lostworld

19-08-2009, 01:23 AM

No the evidence is clear.

You refuse to see it.

Let's not forget that Focrates & some others has a job to do here... :rolleyes:
It's very transparent.

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 01:36 AM

;)

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 01:39 AM

Let's not forget that Focrates & some others has a job to do here... :rolleyes:
It's very transparent.

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

I'm aware of these people.

Their days are numbered.

They won't be able to survive this transitition. The choice is you get behind the cosmos or your left behind.

humito

19-08-2009, 01:40 AM

There is a reason.

Because they can.

There is also another reason.

Your reacting.

There, mission of the game completed.

See it yet, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I guess not.

because they can..........thoughtfull answer:rolleyes:

I thought the point would be that we should not react ?! that we should not notice.......??? what a silly post.

lostworld

19-08-2009, 01:42 AM

They won't be able to survive this transitition. The choice is you get behind the cosmos or your left behind.

That's for sure! :)
And they won't be missed...

humito

19-08-2009, 01:46 AM

I'm aware of these people.

Their days are numbered.

They won't be able to survive this transitition. The choice is you get behind the cosmos or your left behind.

what has a 30 year hoax with no proof have to do with a species awakening?

you assume that because people have a different opinion to you about an urban legend that they do not have the capacity to see through government lies and deception,
the fact that you place paul mc cartney at the centre of a global conspiracy says tons about your mental state.......

surly there are more important things to worry about...........

boots

19-08-2009, 01:55 AM

It does control you,

It controlled your reality at this point. You and I are talking about it. The thing is there doesn't have to be a purpose.

When you are an illuminator you decide what you want to do or create in reality right now. And off you go. Life is a game. That is it. No need for the wishy washy logical answer for everything. Just be aware of where your at and what you contributing to this reality.

There is a lot of sense of having the PID scenario. They wanted a replacement. They did it. Now everyone got on with their lives. They still contributed millions for the fraud.

No need to explain anything more. They do it because they can. The purpose doesn't really concern you or even need to matter.

The illuminati/brotherhood do things that effect the whole world within it's conscious mind as swine flu, economic collapse. The PID thing is NOT on anybodies mind at all and it was a hoax when it came out. NO one paid that much attention to it. Because it meant nothing in the bigger scheme of things anyway.

humito

19-08-2009, 01:56 AM

boots

19-08-2009, 02:10 AM

exactly............:)

These PID threads go round and round. Now it's back to the Illuminati thing.

FFS. I hope we dont get the "Pauls mind was downloaded into Faul" thing.:eek:

I couldnt take it any more.:p

My sides would rip with laughter.:)

humito

19-08-2009, 02:26 AM

These PID threads go round and round. Now it's back to the Illuminati thing.

FFS. I hope we dont get the "Pauls mind was downloaded into Faul" thing.:eek:

I couldnt take it any more.:p

My sides would rip with laughter.:)

lol i know what you mean mate.........that was priceless.......especially as half their arguement is based on the fact that paul wrote crap songs after 67 ,prooving he is dead because of fauls inability to write a good tune!.......if it is the real pauls mind in faul then they are dissing their celebrity idol!

now we cannot evolve spirtually because we cant see he is dead.....:eek:

boots

19-08-2009, 02:58 AM

lol i know what you mean mate.........that was priceless.......especially as half their arguement is based on the fact that paul wrote crap songs after 67 ,prooving he is dead because of fauls inability to write a good tune!.......if it is the real pauls mind in faul then they are dissing their celebrity idol!

now we cannot evolve spirtually because we cant see he is dead.....:eek:

:)

It starting to seem this way.

Whats next.

The fake ear.
The eyes.
The mannerism's
The voice.
The article.

God. It go's round and round. Gets debunked every time.

.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 04:09 AM

The illuminati/brotherhood do things that effect the whole world within it's conscious mind as swine flu, economic collapse. The PID thing is NOT on anybodies mind at all and it was a hoax when it came out. NO one paid that much attention to it. Because it meant nothing in the bigger scheme of things anyway.

This does too, for this conversation bears all of the effect that is carefully asigned. You tend to nit pick and fail to see the bigger picture. John tried to show you but they killed him. The Brotherhood are on the top of the pyramid who control the entire pyramid. Power ranks at varying levels. Stages like this where there is conspiracy and murders or trajic deaths such as Paul bring sudden change and transition to the world. Death literally means transformation. But I'm not going to dicuss the actual reasons this all happened like many things because you don't have the mind capability yet of seeing the bigger picture.

It's not a hoax. It's reality. John died too. It's a reality. People who have power like these popstars die because of it. People thought Michael Jackson death was an accident, but it wasn't was it. Peoplle thought Diana died in an accident, was it. People thought JFK died in the hands of some gangster, was he.

You simply do not understand how the illuminati works. There is a reason for eeverything and you seeom to miss every little thing makes all the difference. If you understand reality and how reality works in this matrix, every form of matter, matters.

For everything is matter.

Every word and thought brought to this forum is energy and matter. Right here and now, there would of been no matter and energy brought to this point if the illluminati didn't replace Paul. Paul was replaced because they want the beatles to sell records. The Beatles were not only the biggest band in the world in their era. They were also a major medium for the illuminati. Just like every other single medium of art out there that gains power. It's teh same in the royalty. If you are a royalty you have power. If you are a popstar or singer, you have power. if you have a really high IQ and is successful in business you have power. If you are an artist you have power..

Power attracts power. The illuminati will take you into this system whether you are aware of it or not. Whether you see it or not. Whether you are told or not. Maddonna is another classic example of someone who has a lot of self power is also sucked into the power of the illuminati.

Paul was replaced, for specific reasons, again it maybe to complex for you to understand, but I know others are in agreement with me. Plus it has made this topic interesting hasn't it. ;)

John was right not to tell you anything. You wouldn't understand:D

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 04:12 AM

:)

It starting to seem this way.

Whats next.

The fake ear.
The eyes.
The mannerism's
The voice.
The article.

God. It go's round and round. Gets debunked every time.

.

it hasnt been debunked

faulconandsnowjob

19-08-2009, 07:17 AM

Paul was replaced, for specific reasons, again it maybe to complex for you to understand, but I know others are in agreement with me. Plus it has made this topic interesting hasn't it. ;)

Yes, there are definitely others who agree with you! I'm glad *some* people on this thread know something about the Illuminati.

And no, the Italian article hasn't been debunked. Even if the PIA'ers had their own forensic scientists coming to a different conclusion, it would still just be a battle of the experts. At this point, all the PIA'ers have is their non-expert, layperson opinion that Paul & Faul "look" the same. Not very persuasive, imo.

boots

19-08-2009, 08:18 AM

This does too, for this conversation bears all of the effect that is carefully asigned. You tend to nit pick and fail to see the bigger picture. John tried to show you but they killed him. The Brotherhood are on the top of the pyramid who control the entire pyramid. Power ranks at varying levels. Stages like this where there is conspiracy and murders or trajic deaths such as Paul bring sudden change and transition to the world. Death literally means transformation. But I'm not going to dicuss the actual reasons this all happened like many things because you don't have the mind capability yet of seeing the bigger picture.

It's not a hoax. It's reality. John died too. It's a reality. People who have power like these popstars die because of it. People thought Michael Jackson death was an accident, but it wasn't was it. Peoplle thought Diana died in an accident, was it. People thought JFK died in the hands of some gangster, was he.

You simply do not understand how the illuminati works. There is a reason for eeverything and you seeom to miss every little thing makes all the difference. If you understand reality and how reality works in this matrix, every form of matter, matters.

For everything is matter.

Every word and thought brought to this forum is energy and matter. Right here and now, there would of been no matter and energy brought to this point if the illluminati didn't replace Paul. Paul was replaced because they want the beatles to sell records.The Beatles were not only the biggest band in the world in their era. They were also a major medium for the illuminati. Just like every other single medium of art out there that gains power. It's teh same in the royalty. If you are a royalty you have power. If you are a popstar or singer, you have power. if you have a really high IQ and is successful in business you have power. If you are an artist you have power..

Power attracts power. The illuminati will take you into this system whether you are aware of it or not. Whether you see it or not. Whether you are told or not. Maddonna is another classic example of someone who has a lot of self power is also sucked into the power of the illuminati.

Paul was replaced, for specific reasons, again it maybe to complex for you to understand, but I know others are in agreement with me. Plus it has made this topic interesting hasn't it. ;)

John was right not to tell you anything. You wouldn't understand:D

Your joking right!!!

Your telling me that I dont know how the Illuminati works!!! Your barking up the wrong tree sunshine. I have a friend who was in the brotherhood. So drop the crap.

and murders or trajic deaths such as Paul bring sudden change and transition to the world.

Funny that, but the so called death of PM didn't hit the newsheadlines as a fact. Not like John, Diana and MJ.

Paul was replaced because they want the beatles to sell records.

The Beatles were selling records any way they didn't need him to be replaced. as a matter of fact if it was true, then they would have sold MORE records.:rolleyes:

Your posts has more holes than swiss cheese.

boots

19-08-2009, 08:19 AM

it hasnt been debunked

It has.

faulconandsnowjob

19-08-2009, 08:38 AM

It has.

lol b/c some guy on the internet says it has been? :rolleyes: Even if you came up w/ your own forensic scientists to support your "theory" that Paul wasn't replaced, it still wouldn't debunk their findings. You'll have to do better than saying they "look" the same to overcome craniometrics.

faulconandsnowjob

19-08-2009, 08:40 AM

Funny that, but the so called death of PM didn't hit the newsheadlines as a fact. Not like John, Diana and MJ.
You're conveniently forgetting that it actually DID hit the headlines back in 1969. Some people are just easily convinced when the mainstream media tells them something - like some guy who didn't really look or act like Paul McCartney was Paul. lol

boots

19-08-2009, 09:41 AM

You're conveniently forgetting that it actually DID hit the headlines back in 1969. Some people are just easily convinced when the mainstream media tells them something - like some guy who didn't really look or act like Paul McCartney was Paul. lol

Thats right but not in the vain of reality, such as JFK, MJ, Jon L. etc.

humito

19-08-2009, 10:56 AM

Faulcon............for the umpteenth time you said you had pictures of surgery scars........lol............everytime i ask you to post them you dissapear untill the post is buried.............lol

you are more of a fraud then PID

also what beatles or pauls solo songs are evil and full of brainwashing for the masses?

Lennon became the joke if you ask me...........imagine no possessions..........lol........sitting in his huge white mansion..........fuck off john and lend me a fiver?

humito

19-08-2009, 11:02 AM

Thats right but not in the vain of reality, such as JFK, MJ, Jon L. etc.

yes a rumour was published not facts.........and the beatles sold millions to fools like faulcon et al looking for clues............:rolleyes:

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 03:36 PM

[quote]9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

There has been no logical argument presented by the PIDDERs. But if you want to talk about dumb, how about the repeated denial that Paul had hazel eyes and that hazel eyes can and many times do look green. And how about the idea that Paul's mind was downloaded into Faul's brain? LOL!

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

Oh yes. Make any wild accusation you want, but God forbid anyone ask for proof or evidence. Paul being dead IS the issue. Either he is dead or is not. You have made the accusations of fraud and murder. Burden of proof is on you.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

No proof has been provided. If you have proof, bring it to court. Please do. If anyone ever charges you with murder, or fraud, I bet you will demand proof.

As far as witnesses, I know someone who knew Paul personally. She says that Paul was not replaced. There is another member here whose grandfather met Paul back in the early days, then saw him years later after 1966. Paul recognized him and talked to him. Faul could not have known this man.

Of course, it is the pidders that deny these first person witnesses.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 03:54 PM

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=lostworld;1203571]

As far as witnesses, I know someone who knew Paul personally. She says that Paul was not replaced. There is another member here whose grandfather met Paul back in the early days, then saw him years later after 1966. Paul recognized him and talked to him. Faul could not have known this man.

Of course, it is the pidders that deny these first person witnesses.

Em where is the witnesses and your claims.

I have a pink hat too. I have wtinesses. Are you able to bullshit anymore?

theenlightenedone

19-08-2009, 05:08 PM

Ok.

Now it' time to cut the dis info and crap.

Formosan, how much money are you getting to roll out the bullshit? How many of you are on this forum? Give me a guess, but not to much. The smell in here is getting obvious. Catch my drift.

Betcha do.

LOL! This is insane! No one here works for the illuminati! I'm a normal guy and has no connection with any secret society! I think you are gettin delusional minduniverse :o Your claims are insane! Get back to reality, please!

:o:o:o:o:o

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 05:29 PM

Define what's reality;)

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 05:31 PM

Ok.

Now it' time to cut the dis info and crap.

Formosan, how much money are you getting to roll out the bullshit? How many of you are on this forum? Give me a guess, but not to much. The smell in here is getting obvious. Catch my drift.

I learned in college that you can tell when someone is losing an argument or debate. How? The person starts using foul language and throwing out personal insults. I guess that professor was right after all.

I have been quite straight forward with who I am. You make me laugh about this paid agent rubbish. I WISH!

I am a CPA. I have a wife and two kids. My nice one-story house, and just about everything we had was wiped out by 10 feet of water in Hurricane Katrina. For weeks, everything my family owned was stored in our car. Since 8/29/05, we have lived in 7 different places. In the months leading up to Katrina, we lost both of my wife's parents. Our cat CC died in Katrina. We have been struggling over the last 4 years to return home, and this summer we finally made it. We have fought with FEMA, the IRS, the LRA, the SBA and the ICC. We are still struggling because we can't sell a house we bought after Katrina before we knew if we could return home. All of this, with pictures, is shown in detail at MFH. Now. Does that sound like the exciting life of a well paid disinformation agent?:rolleyes:

Face it. You don't know what you are talking about and you should be careful making wild accusations about people you don't know.

That is one reason you have no credibility with me on this PID issue. You are so incredibly wrong about your accusations against me, how accurate can you be with your other accusations?

theenlightenedone

19-08-2009, 05:35 PM

Touching story Formosan :(.

No, that doesn't sound like the life of a goverment agent. Think before you say something like that minduniverse.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 05:36 PM

I learned in college that you can tell when someone is losing an argument or debate. How? The person starts using foul language and throwing out personal insults. I guess that professor was right after all.

I have been quite straight forward with who I am. You make me laugh about this paid agent rubbish. I WISH!

I am a CPA. I have a wife and two kids. My nice one-story house, and just about everything we had was wiped out by 10 feet of water in Hurricane Katrina. For weeks, everything my family owned was stored in our car. Since 8/29/05, we have lived in 7 different places. In the months leading up to Katrina, we lost both of my wife's parents. Our cat CC died in Katrina. We have been struggling over the last 4 years to return home, and this summer we finally made it. We have fought with FEMA, the IRS, the LRA, the SBA and the ICC. We are still struggling because we can't sell a house we bought after Katrina before we knew if we could return home. All of this, with pictures, is shown in detail at MFH. Now. Does that sound like the exciting life of a well paid disinformation agent?:rolleyes:

Face it. You don't know what you are talking about and you should be careful making wild accusations about people you don't know.

That is one reason you have no credibility with me on this PID issue. You are so incredibly wrong about your accusations against me, how accurate can you be with your other accusations?

Prove it

You rely on proof, Everything you say is not backed up by evidence. Everything in that post has no bearing of this thread or has it shown any evidence at all.

I do find it Ironic that you had to defend yourself;)

Your good, but not that good.:)

theenlightenedone

19-08-2009, 05:40 PM

Prove it

You rely on proof, Everything you say is not backed up by evidence. Everything in that post has no bearing of this thread or has it shown any evidence at all.

I do find it Ironic that you had to defend yourself;)

Your good, but not that good.:)

You have lost all credibility.
Thousand of people lost thier homes and families in Katrina, it was on the news EVERYWHERE! And you think he's lying?

Oh I forgot, Katrina was made using special effects :rolleyes: The illuminati did it to control the sheeple :rolleyes:

You're really mean minduniverse, you know that?

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 05:49 PM

Prove it

You rely on proof, Everything you say is not backed up by evidence. Everything in that post has no bearing of this thread or has it shown any evidence at all.

I do find it Ironic that you had to defend yourself;)

Your good, but not that good.:)

You are an insesitive person, aren't you? I will pray for you.

As I said, there is a whole thread on MFH dating back to August, 2005. It is all there. Pictures of my old house taken the day we first saw it in October 2005. All the photos of the construction of the new house are also there, along with stories of what was going on the whole time. It's all there in posts made long before I joined here. Go look. It is a lot more proof than anything you have provided about me.

But, again, you made accusations against me. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

socrates

19-08-2009, 06:29 PM

No the evidence is clear.

No it isn't. As we have shown over and over and over and over in this thread ALL your evidence has been debunked. The alleged height difference, the eye colour, the freckles etc.

ALL debunked.

You refuse to see it.

No - you refuse to see reason and reality and completely ignore the FACTS PIAers have shown.

Your loss.

Imagine im the chess player owner, and I played out this reality to you....

Sorry, talking about chess games is stupid.

Your analogy is nonsense.

In other words wake up and smell the coffee beans.

Oh, please! :)

Coming from you, that's like a blind man telling people to open their eyes. :rolleyes:

socrates

19-08-2009, 06:32 PM

Let's not forget that Focrates & some others has a job to do here... :rolleyes:
It's very transparent.

More fantasy from LostInHerOwnLittleWorld. :rolleyes:

Anybody disagrees with your bullshit theories and they 'have a job to do'.

Pathetic.

socrates

19-08-2009, 06:38 PM

Some people are just easily convinced when the mainstream media tells them something - like some guy who didn't really look or act like Paul McCartney was Paul. lol

Or some scientists saying some photos from a PID site don't match. :rolleyes:

You fail to mention that Wired is part of the mainstream media. :rolleyes:

Funny that, eh? :rolleyes:

Your argument is ridiculous and contradictory.

The fact that you obviously fail to see it tells us all we need to know.

socrates

19-08-2009, 06:43 PM

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 07:39 PM

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 07:40 PM

No it isn't. As we have shown over and over and over and over in this thread ALL your evidence has been debunked. The alleged height difference, the eye colour, the freckles etc.

ALL debunked.

No - you refuse to see reason and reality and completely ignore the FACTS PIAers have shown.

Your loss.

Sorry, talking about chess games is stupid.

Your analogy is nonsense.

Oh, please! :)

Coming from you, that's like a blind man telling people to open their eyes. :rolleyes:

Paul and Fauls ears are different.

Pictures don't lie.

Don't insult my analogies, if you dissagree with me fine. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead. But remember your out of line at this point.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 07:42 PM

You are an insesitive person, aren't you? I will pray for you.

As I said, there is a whole thread on MFH dating back to August, 2005. It is all there. Pictures of my old house taken the day we first saw it in October 2005. All the photos of the construction of the new house are also there, along with stories of what was going on the whole time. It's all there in posts made long before I joined here. Go look. It is a lot more proof than anything you have provided about me.

But, again, you made accusations against me. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

No the burden of proof is on you. Your responsible for what you do and what you say to others. If you are going around demanding everyone to back up everything they say with proof.

You better stop preaching and learn to take your own advice.

Because your really showing yourself up to be a right obvious hypocrite.

theenlightenedone

19-08-2009, 07:44 PM

Think about this. I was a PIDer before, just like you. Would a DIS-INFO agent be a PIDer? I have seen both sides and settled for the less crazy one. That's it.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 07:47 PM

Think about this. I was a PIDer before, just like you. Would a DIS-INFO agent be a PIDer? I have seen both sides and settled for the less crazy one. That's it.

I've seen both sides.

The guy is William Campbell

Play and sing all you like. I don't care what you are or what you thought. The truth is out. So you can keep thinking out bullshit.

Btw what is less "crazy"
Living a reality
Living in reality?

You live a reality.

Start living in reality. The world is a crazy place.

theenlightenedone

19-08-2009, 07:53 PM

I've seen both sides.

The guy is William Campbell

Play and sing all you like. I don't care what you are or what you thought. The truth is out. So you can keep thinking out bullshit.

Btw what is less "crazy"
Living a reality
Living in reality?

You live a reality.

Start living in reality. The world is a crazy place.

I can agree on that, the world is a crazy place. But it's not THAT crazy. Sorry, I don't buy your illuminati theories. Believe them yourself if you like, but I don't. And as I've said, you have lost all credibility after you pretty much insulted Formosan.

socrates

19-08-2009, 08:00 PM

Don't bluff me.

Who's bluffing?

If you are going around this room behaving in this way spreading dis info

It's your opinion it's disinfo. Doesn't mean your opinion is right though.

and demanding others to prove themselves with facts.

Yeah, asking for proof of extraordinary claims is so unreasonable isn't it? :rolleyes:

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 08:05 PM

Don't bluff me.

If you are going around this room behaving in this way spreading dis info and demanding others to prove themselves with facts.

You start with yourself and your own example:)

Just so everyone here knows the behaviour right now. This is classic deferring and distraction to the thread. Bringing up a non relevant topic

Keep it up guys. I will see how long you can keep this up;)

First, you accuse me of bringing up a non-relevant topic. I remind you that you brought up this topic. You accused me of being an agent paid to spread disinformation. I did not bring that up.

You brought up the accusation. The burden of proof is on you. I am the defendant. I do not have to prove my innocence; I have to be proven guilty. That is basic.

Suppose I now accuse you on this public forum of being a convicted car thief? Do you think the burden of proof would be on you to prove you are not? No. The burden of proof would be on me. Simple.

Even though the burden of proof is not on me, the proof exists. I have told you about it. Go look. Backing me up, I have a thread on MFH spanning almost 4 years. The thread has 374 posts and 2,288 views and was started 8/31/2005. My first post was this:

Hello,

As many of you know, I live(ed) in New Orleans. My house is gone.

Luckily, we left in time, and we are safe in Jackson, MS.

It is bad; real bad. The levee breach in the 17th street canal is right by my house, maybe a mile.

Please pray for us and all of those affected on the coast.

I will not be posting much for a while, but I wanted to let y'all know.

The thread has many posts describing what happened over those four years along with dozens of pictures showing the old house, its demolition and the building of the new house. I have all of this proof backing me up. It is there for all to see.

And to back up your accusations about me you have.....let's see....NOTHING!

So there it is. You want proof? You got it. Now show your proof. And, no, your opinion is not proof.

socrates

19-08-2009, 08:10 PM

Paul and Fauls ears are different.

No they aren't.

Pictures don't lie.

Er, I think you'll find they can :rolleyes: :

Pictures can lie -- so can memory

Study shows people influenced by images
Shannon Proudfoot, CanWest News Service
Published: Wednesday, November 21, 2007
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/national/story.html?id=87cb8dbe-d297-4765-8376-ecb74b46fd36

The camera isn't supposed to lie, but when it does, most of us can't tell the difference.

People easily swallow photographic fibs and even incorporate them into their memories of major historical events, a new study shows.

Italian and American researchers showed volunteers authentic photos of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protest, and of a 2003 anti-Iraq war demonstration in Rome.

Then they showed them a set of doctored photos. In the Tiananmen Square photo, a crowd of thousands was added to the lone protester facing the tanks in Beijing. Riot police and gas masks were added to the Italian photo to give the peaceful Rome protests a violent tone.

Those who viewed the manipulated images "remembered" the events as bigger and more violent than they were. The result was the same with older volunteers who had firsthand memories of Tiananmen Square. One participant even condemned the protesters in Rome for causing damage to the city and confronting police -- neither of which actually happened.

These false "memories" ultimately can affect future behaviour, the study reveals. People said they were unlikely to participate in a similar event after viewing doctored photos that led them to "remember" the peaceful protests in Rome as dangerous.

Television, magazines and newspapers are the main channels through which many people learn about the world, the authors note, and are "generally trusted" as reliable sources.

"When such media employ digitally doctored photographs, they may have a stronger effect than merely influencing our opinion; by tampering with our malleable memory, they may ultimately change the way we recall history," the paper concludes.

The study, published in the December issue of Applied Cognitive Psychology,(http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/4438/home) was conducted by researchers at the University of California at Irvine and Italy's University of Padua. It claims to be the first to investigate how doctored images affect people's memory of public events -- but others have shown personal memories to be just as elastic.

Researchers have convinced people they nearly drowned as children, took a hot-air balloon ride or even witnessed a demonic possession, simply by showing them edited photos or falsified written accounts.

The study authors cite several recent examples of doctored photos reaching mainstream audiences before they were uncovered. In 2003, the Los Angeles Times ran a photo on its front page of a British soldier directing Iraqi civilians to take cover from insurgent fire. It was soon revealed to be a fake and cost the photographer his job.

Another falsified image made the Internet rounds during the 2004 presidential race, purportedly showing Democratic candidate John Kerry sharing the podium at an anti-Vietnam war rally with Jane Fonda in the 1970s.

Digital photography and increasingly powerful software makes it "easier and seamless" to generate these images, says Bill White, a technician and teacher in the photojournalism program at Loyalist College in Belleville, Ont. He worries that has made readers and viewers more distrustful of media, but he points out that people have been faking or altering photos almost since the first click of a camera shutter.

And this:

http://news.cnet.com/Pictures-that-lie/2300-1026_3-6033210.html?tag=nefd.lede

http://www.dontgo.co.uk/openyoureyes/open-your-eyes.gif

Don't insult my analogies

Sorry, if I think your analogies are stupid I've every right to say so.

However, your personal attack on formosan termite was completely uncalled for and out of line.

Those in glass houses..... :rolleyes:

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 08:15 PM

No the burden of proof is on you. Your responsible for what you do and what you say to others. If you are going around demanding everyone to back up everything they say with proof.

You better stop preaching and learn to take your own advice.

Because your really showing yourself up to be a right obvious hypocrite.

Nope. You made an accusation against me. I am the defendant. The burden of proof is on you. This is consistent with what I have been saying. The pidders have made accusations of fraud and complicity in murder about Paul and the rest of the Beatles. They made the accusation. The burden of proof is on them.

My story is backed up with proof. See my previous post. The proof is there. I practice what I preach.

Where is your proof?

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 08:56 PM

I can agree on that, the world is a crazy place. But it's not THAT crazy. Sorry, I don't buy your illuminati theories. Believe them yourself if you like, but I don't. And as I've said, you have lost all credibility after you pretty much insulted Formosan.

So there is a scale of how crazy is it?

Do you know what is crazy and when its not?

Do you know how crazy something is, and not to another?

Do you know what goes on behind scenes.

Obviously you don't:D

Back off on the emotional blackmail.;)

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 08:58 PM

Nope. You made an accusation against me. I am the defendant. The burden of proof is on you. This is consistent with what I have been saying. The pidders have made accusations of fraud and complicity in murder about Paul and the rest of the Beatles. They made the accusation. The burden of proof is on them.

My story is backed up with proof. See my previous post. The proof is there. I practice what I preach.

Where is your proof?

Nope, Go ahead and play the victim. We will all see how you can worm through this one when the topic is about faul isn't it. Isn't this so Ironic.

Prove where I made an accusation?:) If you make a statement you prove it. If believe I'm wrong. Show.

I'm not responsible for you. Keep this up. I will see how long you last to keep the dis info and distraction going? The world is waking up. Your speeding it up.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 09:01 PM

No they aren't.

Er, I think you'll find they can :rolleyes: :

And this:

http://news.cnet.com/Pictures-that-lie/2300-1026_3-6033210.html?tag=nefd.lede

http://www.dontgo.co.uk/openyoureyes/open-your-eyes.gif

Sorry, if I think your analogies are stupid I've every right to say so.

However, your personal attack on formosan termite was completely uncalled for and out of line.

Those in glass houses..... :rolleyes:

My memory serves right

When I see the same video of Faul lieing through his body language.

Can't disputes the fact. His bodylangauge is his responsibility and he owns his body. If he lies its going to show. Anyway his mouth and eyes were rolling around. Hands on mouth, face, touching nose, shifting postion and showing erractic shifting when put on the spot.

Fact are facts.

Your not going to fool me. I find it fascinating you even have balls to argue me. Still?
I smell dis info here. Oops.What a surprise. Carry on guys. I'll sit back and enjoy you all trying to survive the deception. Remember my lines.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 09:04 PM

Nope,

Prove where I made an accusation?:) If you make a statement you prove it.

You have accused me of being an agent paid to spread disinformation. It is on this thread. The proof is there. Are you now saying I am not a paid disinformation agent?

Ok.

Now it' time to cut the dis info and crap.

Formosan, how much money are you getting to roll out the bullshit? How many of you are on this forum? Give me a guess, but not to much. The smell in here is getting obvious. Catch my drift.

Betcha do.

Looks like you accusing me of getting money to roll out disinformation. Proof.

I'm not responsible for you.

No one has claimed that you are. And words can not express how greatful I am that you are not responsible for me. On this I heartily agree.

Keep this up. I will see how long you last to keep the dis info and distraction going? The world is waking up. Your speeding it up.

psychobabble

theenlightenedone

19-08-2009, 09:05 PM

So there is a scale of how crazy is it?

Do you know what is crazy and when its not?

Do you know how crazy something is, and not to another?

Do you know what goes on behind scenes.

Obviously you don't:D

Back off on the emotional blackmail.;)

uhm... why do you have a problem with everyone here?

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 09:06 PM

uhm... why do you have a problem with everyone here?

I'm all ok here.

Still avoiding a direct question.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 09:10 PM

You have accused me of being an agent paid to spread disinformation. It is on this thread. The proof is there. Are you now saying I am not a paid disinformation agent?

Well your actions are showing.

I'm judging your actions on this thread. There was no personal attack;)

The fact that you have twisted this to this extent. Proves all the more. Remember I said you ckeep the ball rolling. It's quite enjoyable to watch you carry on.

No one has claimed that you are. And words can not express how greatful I am that you are not responsible for me. On this I heartily agree.

psychobabble

I'm glad you understand now.

So where is William these days?
Lets get back to the topic shall we. You know what I mean. Where is William Campbell.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 09:18 PM

I'm judging your actions on this thread. There was no personal attack;)

Ok. Where is the proof that I have been paid? You have a W-2 or a 1099? LOL!

Ah! I understand now. You spew out these things based only on your opinion, not fact or proof. Just like PID.

Where is William?

A followup article, printed in J. Gray's underground journal "Big Fat Magazine", gives the date of Russ Gibb's broadcast (12 October 1969), the date of Fred LaBour's tongue-in-cheek response (14 October 1969), and even details some of the clues invented by LaBour---the invention of William Campbell, Paul's "look-alike" (LaBour originally wanted to call him Glenn Campbell but thought that would be too obvious); the statement that a walrus was a Greek symbol for a corpse (this seemingly derived from the Harper/Ulviden clue that the walrus was a Scandinavian or American Indian sign of death!).

William Campbell was made up by Fred Labour.

MYTH: Then the Beatles, in the winter of 1966, held a "Paul look- alike" contest but no winner was ever announced. BUT - there was a winner....his name was William Campbell, and he was paid a considerable amount of money to play along with the facade - he was to be the NEW Paul. He supposedly looked enough like PM to sit in with the other Beatles for photographs, sometimes even fooling the photographers. Strangely, nothing was ever heard of William Campbell again. His picture is included on the poster that came with the White album in the lower right-hand corner. Looks like Paul with glasses, mustache, and combed back hair. William Campbell has this faint scar on his upper lip, PM doesn't.

REALITY: Such a contest was actually held, co-sponsored by an American teen magazine (perhaps "Tiger Beat"?) and Dick Clark of the TV show "American Bandstand". The winner of this 1965 contest was Keith Allison, who had a brief brush with fame on teen shows such as "Where The Action Is" and apparently later joined Paul Revere and the Raiders, circa 1966. The real Paul *does* have a faint scar on his upper lip from the above-mentioned motorcycle accident. No William Campbell ever won a Paul look-alike contest.

The William Campbell clue was invented by Fred LaBour.

http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/faqs/pid.html

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 09:22 PM

Who is Fred give me his credentials I don't like niffty reports like that. Nor does THAT prove anything. Where is the heading of this site? Where is the conclusions? Where is the references? Where is documentated info on this webpage. That is a rubbish dialogue for dis info.

Are you trying to take the piss out of me?

Type writing skills it surely proves I'll give you that.

So again I ask where is the man Willam Campbell?

Cranberry sauce is nice? Remeber hearing that. John really scared the bejesus out of you lot didn't he;) Strawberry sauce, Rasberry sauce, Tomato ketchup isn't really my cup of tea now.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 09:28 PM

Here is more about Fred LaBour. He was a journalist for the Michigan Daily. It's all in the link provided. Read.

Fred LaBour, another campus journalist (Michigan Daily---see below) actually admits to having made up a substantial number of clues. Between Harper's initial report and LaBour's invention, almost every alleged "clue" about Paul's death can be traced to one or the other source.

Another source for clues invention was a popular radio show hosted by disc-jockey Russell Gibb of WKNR-FM in Detroit was a vital element in the spread of the hoax. A regular r.m.b. reader, Headly Westerfield, who was not only a friend of Gibb but was present in-studio that afternoon (12 October 1969), recalls reading an "underground newspaper" (it may have been one of the the college papers then carrying the "clues", similar to the ones Dartanyan Brown remembers seeing) with a list of "Paul Is Dead" clues.

Gibb and cohorts were sufficiently inspired to read them on the air and to improvise new ones on the spot. Listeners to the show even recall someone calling up Gibb to report that if you played "Revolution No. 9" backward, you'd hear a secret message. (Note: radio-show collectors used to offer an aircheck of this show or a followup show for trade! Anyone have a copy?)

Within days, Gibb & Co. were astonished when newspapers and reporters took their on-air joke seriously and spread the tale more widely. Some clues which have become part of established folklore, Westerfield reports, were invented that obscure day at WKNR-FM, but have since been accepted as part of the original hoax. Gibb and friends were not the source of the hoax, he emphasizes, but played a part in its initial wider dissemination.

Another r.m.b. reader, J. Gray, was the literary editor of The Michigan Daily, student newspaper at the U. of Michigan. Leslie Wayne was its arts editor, and one Fred LaBour was an arts reviewer. Ms. Wayne assigned a review of the Beatles' recently released "Abbey Road" LP to LaBour, who serendipitously listened to Russell Gibb's radio show the Sunday afternoon wherein the "clues" were jocularly announced. LaBour was inspired to write his own article, based on "clues" from Gibb and some invented ones of his own.

The Michigan Daily published it under the title "McCartney Dead; New Evidence Brought To Light". Editor Gray and author LaBour assumed it was obvious that their work was a joke. The rest of the world took it seriously.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 09:33 PM

Here is more about Fred LaBour. He was a journalist for the Michigan Daily. It's all in the link provided. Read.

Clever clever.

Now answer the question

Give me links, reference of this guy called Fred labour

I want information on the guy and not what he says. I pay more attention to what people who they are and what they do, rather than the bullshit that they say.

What exactly proves that Willam campbell the lookalike was a myth.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 09:34 PM

Who is Fred give me his credentials I don't like niffty reports like that. Nor does THAT prove anything. Where is the heading of this site? Where is the conclusions? Where is the references? Where is documentated info on this webpage. That is a rubbish dialogue for dis info.

Umm. I provided the link to the full story. Everything you ask for is there. Try reading the information provided before you start attacking everything.

So again I ask where is the man Willam Campbell?

I am sure there are many around the world. If you mean the winner of the Paul look-alike contest, he exists only in Fred Labour's imagination.

Cranberry sauce is nice? Remeber hearing that. John really scared the bejesus out of you lot didn't he;) Strawberry sauce, Rasberry sauce, Tomato ketchup isn't really my cup of tea now.

Ok. I remember when I had my first beer.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 09:35 PM

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 09:37 PM

Umm. I provided the link to the full story. Everything you ask for is there. Try reading the information provided before you start attacking everything.

I am sure there are many around the world. If you mean the winner of the Paul look-alike contest, he exists only in Fred Labour's imagination.

Ok. I remember when I had my first beer.

Since I can see in plain view that its not Paul McCartney do you honestly think I'm going to be a fool like most people.

So If fred says paul is not dead. Do we sing a good ol song. If that man is indeed real. He is been payed alot of money to bullshit. Money makes people bullshit to no end. I've seen it first hand.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 09:40 PM

Give me links, reference of this guy called Fred labour

I want information on the guy and not what he says. I pay more attention to what people who they are and what they do, rather than the bullshit that they say.

Umm. There are these things called search engines. Places like GOOGLE, YAHOO, BING etc. Look it up yourself. I'm not your secretary.

What exactly proves that Willam campbell the lookalike was a myth.

The fact that the William Campbell story first surfaced in Fred LaBour's article and he admits to making it up.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 09:44 PM

So If fred says paul is not dead. Do we sing a good ol song. If that man is indeed real. He is been payed alot of money to bullshit. Money makes people bullshit to no end. I've seen it first hand.

So the only source to the William Campbell story is Fred LaBour and Fred LaBour says that he made the whole thing up. And you don't believe the original source? So the basis of your belief is that your source is a liar?

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 10:02 PM

No I see through deception:)

Thereare ppl out there like freddy to make sure nobody sees who's the teddy

socrates

19-08-2009, 10:18 PM

When I see the same video of Faul lieing through his body language.

And what qualifications in the study of body language do you have, pray tell?

PHD? Masters Degree?

Or, more likely, bugger all! :rolleyes:

Sorry, but your lay person's opinion means absolutely nothing. :rolleyes:

Can't disputes the fact. His bodylangauge is his responsibility and he owns his body. If he lies its going to show.

Yawn. See above.

Anyway his mouth and eyes were rolling around. Hands on mouth, face, touching nose, shifting postion and showing erractic shifting when put on the spot.

Yawn. See above.

Fact are facts.

Where are they? So far all you've given is mere armchair opinion.

Your not going to fool me.

PID obviously has. :rolleyes:

I find it fascinating you even have balls to argue me. Still?

I don't need balls to discuss a claim with someone who hasn't much of an argument to support their position.

This is too easy.

I smell dis info here.

There you go repeating the same stock quotes from PIDDERS again. Yawn. Why don't you think for yourself instead of copying others?

Remember my lines.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but your "lines" are quite forgettable. :rolleyes:

socrates

19-08-2009, 10:23 PM

Thereare ppl out there like freddy to make sure nobody sees who's the teddy

This one?

http://blindgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/teddy-bear-2.jpg

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_4/1098372471Gz8mAj.jpg

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 10:40 PM

No I see through deception:)

But Fred was the ONLY source for the William Campbell story and he says it was made up. There is no other basis that there was ever a William Campbell look-alike other than Fred LaBour. So the only basis you have is that your own source is a liar.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 10:46 PM

And what qualifications in the study of body language do you have, pray tell?

PHD? Masters Degree?

Or, more likely, bugger all! :rolleyes:

Sorry, but your lay person's opinion means absolutely nothing. :rolleyes:

Yawn. See above.

Yawn. See above.

Where are they? So far all you've given is mere armchair opinion.

PID obviously has. :rolleyes:

I don't need balls to discuss a claim with someone who hasn't much of an argument to support their position.

This is too easy.

There you go repeating the same stock quotes from PIDDERS again. Yawn. Why don't you think for yourself instead of copying others?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but your "lines" are quite forgettable. :rolleyes:

Nice going Socrates. Me thinks this person is suffering from delusions of adequacy.

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 10:51 PM

The truth always comes out in the end.;)

As I said, keep behaving like children with conformist programmed ways. For these ways are going to change. Let this thread be the example of this change.

People are waking up at alarming rate. The more dis info there is for now the better. All your doing is speeding it up. Keep behaving like you do above. Your all doing perfect.

So my advice is hire more Macca secret dis info agents to keep the masses stupid.

Your barking up the wrong tree with me on this one. carry on.

socrates

19-08-2009, 10:54 PM

socrates

19-08-2009, 10:55 PM

Nice going Socrates. Me thinks this person is suffering from delusions of adequacy.

Or too much Jack Daniels. :D

mind1universe

19-08-2009, 11:01 PM

I don't drink.

It's amazing how your all deflecting attention.:)

Attacking me now I see? I drink, anything else?

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 11:03 PM

Or too much Jack Daniels. :D

This is getting boring. This now is just the same foolishness over and over. "Hired dis info agents" over and over.:rolleyes: No comps, no fades, no links or research. Nothing I didn't hear 6 years ago. Geez, this person is even harping on the old original PID Hoax Fred LaBour stuff from 1969. Not even Sun King believed the William Campbell stuff.

formosan termite

19-08-2009, 11:32 PM

It's amazing how your all deflecting attention.:)

Huh? You asked about William Campbell, I provided information and a link about William Campbell. On topic.

i_am

19-08-2009, 11:37 PM

You know what guys?

This thread has just about run its course. After several appeals and/or warnings, you cannot discuss the subject matter without resorting to personal insults and attacks on those who have different views.

It stops NOW or this thread will be closed as will the other one if the same stuff continues there.

formosan termite

20-08-2009, 12:35 AM

boots

20-08-2009, 12:57 AM

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1536/floggingadeadhorse.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/i/floggingadeadhorse.jpg/)

ph0neyprophet

20-08-2009, 12:57 AM

Sub - YouTube

I think it's safe to say there were atleast 2 Paul's..

formosan termite

20-08-2009, 03:06 AM

Are we allowed to disagree with people on this thread?

humito

20-08-2009, 03:09 AM

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1536/floggingadeadhorse.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/i/floggingadeadhorse.jpg/)

i love that pic:)

i_am

20-08-2009, 03:40 AM

Are we allowed to disagree with people on this thread?

Of course you can disagree. Just cut out insulting the intelligence of those who have a different viewpoint, and that goes for both 'sides'

humito

20-08-2009, 03:47 AM

can we come to a peacefull truce and just agree that he is half dead ?

phrased eyebrow

20-08-2009, 05:29 AM

What if Paul WAS Replaced for whatever reason, predetermined (subjective lyrics abound in Rubber Soul / Revolver) or not. Then the 3 remaining Beatles came up with this elaborate (ridiculous, right?) story about burying Paul and what not, to thinly veil that there's a double in the mist. He doesn't HAVE to be dead. Maybe his departure was planned and now he's down in a jungle, living in a tent.

One thing's for sure. The guy who calls himself Paul and works the crowd has them eating out of his hand.

boots

20-08-2009, 06:40 AM

i love that pic:)

LOL thank you.

It was curtsey of cheeney1. Who's a bit inactive at the moment.

faulconandsnowjob

20-08-2009, 07:48 AM

This thread has just about run its course. After several appeals and/or warnings, you cannot discuss the subject matter without resorting to personal insults and attacks on those who have different views.

It stops NOW or this thread will be closed as will the other one if the same stuff continues there.

The problem with this approach is that some people would really love to see these threads closed, b/c they don't want people to see the truth. It really just encourages them to continue being rude. It might be more effective to ban the offending members.

faulconandsnowjob

20-08-2009, 07:50 AM

One thing's for sure. The guy who calls himself Paul and works the crowd has them eating out of his hand.

He just takes advantage of people who pay a lot of money to see PAUL. All they get is some no-talent scammer. It's just wrong.

i_am

20-08-2009, 08:02 AM

The problem with this approach is that some people would really love to see these threads closed, b/c they don't want people to see the truth. It really just encourages them to continue being rude. It might be more effective to ban the offending members.

After something like 7,500 posts, this topic is going nowhere except in ever decreasing circles. The information will still be there for people to read and make up their own minds but this insultathon has gotten beyond a joke.

We don't ban people for this but it is difficult to take ANY action when everyone responds to insults by retaliating with further insults.

dream9

20-08-2009, 08:44 AM

i_am

20-08-2009, 09:27 AM

I agree with faulcon.

And we did ignore the insults for quite awhile in the beginning. If you go back and read the entire thread you can see this. But after awhile when someone keeps insulting you and you haven't done anything but try to prove your point, then it can wear on you and you want to retaliate.

We've tried to email the mods here and tell them about the behavor of some of the people here and got no response. Those people should have been reprimanded at the time they made those antagonistic and insulting statements. To close the entire thread down is not fair.

.....

Hi dream9

With due respect, there is no way you could know what action was taken against someone else as we do not discuss moderation issues with anyone but the person against whom action has been taken.

Don't assume your reports are ignored but if someone reports and then retaliates in like manner it does make it rather difficult. There is an option to ignore and if you choose not to do that then don't retaliate with further bickering. Just stay On Topic and ignore anyway. I know it is hard but we have pages and pages where everyone is making posts of a personal nature.

For both the PID and the PIA contributors: surely you can present your case to debate, debunk whatever without the snide comments and insults? People are not morons for believing as they do and don't deserve to be treated as such. Refute their claims by all means but there is no need to get personal.

humito

20-08-2009, 10:22 AM

closing these threads would give the forum more credibility!

read back those pages and you will see that PIA supporters were attacked hysterically and constantly branded sheeple and accused of hijacking the thread when disagreeing with PID ,we have been called stupid ,asleep etc................shut the threads and do us all a favour,reasonable debate with PID is impossible...........the arguement will constantly be circular...its always been he is dead.......no he isnt............the only proof that will ever solve the row is DNA matches with paul and his brother............until PID takes all their "evidence" to court and forces this...............guess what????

boots

20-08-2009, 11:21 AM

dream9

20-08-2009, 11:51 AM

closing these threads would give the forum more credibility!

That's not a good reason to shut down a thread.

And are you a reader of David Icke's material?

.....

formosan termite

20-08-2009, 12:01 PM

Thank you for letting us present our postition here. If anyone calls me stupid, blind, sheep, paid dis info agent or so forth, I will not respond, but report it.

Back to the topic.

Great video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjpxr2_sGg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmaccafunhouse%2Eproboards%2Ecom% 2Findex%2Ecgi%3Fboard%3Dpid%26action%3Ddisplay%26t hread%3D3849&feature=player_embedded#t=76

socrates

20-08-2009, 04:02 PM

He just takes advantage of people who pay a lot of money to see PAUL. All they get is some no-talent scammer. It's just wrong.

This post is libellous. Never mind shutting the thread down, the owners of this forum could be sued for posts like this.

A lawyer would not make libellous posts like this, calling a famous musician such a name. :mad: :mad: :mad:

socrates

20-08-2009, 04:06 PM

truthseeker49

20-08-2009, 05:22 PM

A member of my forum who wants to be known as "Aerlis", asked me to post this here:

Quote:But Fred was the ONLY source for the William Campbell story and he says it was made up. There is no other basis that there was ever a William Campbell look-alike other than Fred LaBour. So the only basis you have is that your own source is a liar.

One more source for William Campbell is a man who is known as "Sir Paul McCartney". And, yes, he is a liar.

http://ludix.com/moriarty/paul.html

During the climax of the Paul-is-dead media frenzy, RKO produced a one-hour television special called Paul McCartney: The Complete Story, Told For the First And Last Time. This program was videotaped on a set resembling a courtroom, in which various "witnesses" involved with the rumor were formally questioned by an attorney. The attorney was none other than celebrity lawyer F. Lee Bailey.

Bailey examines LaBour:

Q. Are you the same Fred LaBour who published, on October 14th, 1969, an article in the Michigan Daily, a newspaper published by the University, which begins as follows: "Paul McCartney was killed in an automobile accident in November, 1966 after leaving EMI recording studios tired, sad and dejected"?
A. Right. I wrote that story.

Q. Do you know for a fact that that's true?

A. No, I don't.

Q. Then why did you publish it?
A. Well, I was supposed to ... They asked me to review Abbey Road, which was the current Beatle album. So I decided I didn't wanna just, um, write a review about, you know, this is, Paul does this song and George does this song, etc, etc, like all reviews go. So I decided to make it work symbolically, on a religious level.

My conclusion - he's an absolute liar. He lies in his article and on the TV show.

Why?

1. Would you believe a person who wrote about "the Beatles forthcoming album called "Smile"", when it was actually The Beach Boys album, which they were recording at the time of the alleged car crash?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/Smile-forthcoming.jpg

2. There was no car crash on November 9, 1966, we know that Bill was on tour at that time.

So, Fred is a liar. BUT he is NOT the ONLY source for William Campbell. And he wasn't made by LaBour.

Actually, William Campbell, Jr. was a guitarist from the band called "Marmalade". His outward resemblance with the late 60's Faul was so great that some PIDers begun to identify Faul with him.
Faul left some clues related to WC, Jr., for example, the songs like "Junior's Farm" and "Uncle Albert-Admiral Halsey". Also, remember Faul wearing a Campbell kilt in the 70's. Not to mention the Featles clues related to the impostor exactly as "William".

SO, Fred couldn't create William Campbell by himself. It means he had his own source.

The PID boom took place exactly at the time of the deepest financial crisis of "Apple". "Apple Corps. Ltd" used Paul's death to create the false PID rumor. And, I suppose, they used Labour to give the rumors more momentum and to create the final "PID story" to give more serious look to what was going on.

And when all the warehouses became empty, they said: "He is alive, everything is alright, it's all a hoax".
Of course, people stooped believing in it, because mass media presented it as a joke made for the financial purposes.

They will never reveal what really happened with Paul and with the others, of course.

faulconandsnowjob

20-08-2009, 05:46 PM

This post is libellous. Never mind shutting the thread down, the owners of this forum could be sued for posts like this.

A lawyer would not make libellous posts like this, calling a famous musician such a name. :mad: :mad: :mad:

It's not libel if it's TRUE. And Faul would never in a million years sue, b/c then the defendants would be in a position to prove he's a fraud.

socrates

20-08-2009, 06:50 PM

It's not libel if it's TRUE.

But it's not true. :rolleyes:

And Faul would never in a million years sue, b/c then the defendants would be in a position to prove he's a fraud.

You can sue him anyway, if you think he's a fraud. Anyone who has bought a record by Paul McCartney after PID can sue if they have proof it's not Paul McCartney.

The fact that no PIDDER has ever tried to sue Paul shows that you all know that you would lose any court case.

If you dispute this statement - then go ahead and sue him. What's stopping you?

dedesuperman

20-08-2009, 07:24 PM

But it's not true. :rolleyes:

You can sue him anyway, if you think he's a fraud. Anyone who has bought a record by Paul McCartney after PID can sue if they have proof it's not Paul McCartney.

The fact that no PIDDER has ever tried to sue Paul shows that you all know that you would lose any court case.

If you dispute this statement - then go ahead and sue him. What's stopping you?

Even though we could show that he is false those that control the medias or those that are behind this conspiracy would manage to show that he is the true Paul McCartney.

In my case I am not rich enough to sue him not having the appraisal required to confront him, I take what my eyes reveal to me as a basis that's all.

socrates

20-08-2009, 08:05 PM

Even though we could show that he is false those that control the medias or those that are behind this conspiracy would manage to show that he is the true Paul McCartney.

Garbage! The "mass media" has already published a 'scientific' report infering that Paul has been replaced!

Link:

http://www.wired.it/magazine/archivio/2009/06/storie/chiedi-chi-era-quel-%ABbeatle%BB-.aspx

You'll have to come up with a better excuse than the old 'The mass media would stop the truth getting out' line. :rolleyes:

In my case I am not rich enough to sue him not having the appraisal required to confront him

You don't have to be rich to sue. Take him to the small claims court in the UK. Only costs about £100. :rolleyes:

But we know no PIDDER will do this. You are all talk and no action. Your so called "proof" is non existent and you know you'd be laughed out of court.

dedesuperman

20-08-2009, 08:09 PM

Garbage! The "mass media" has already published a scientific report infering that Paul has been replaced!

Link:

http://www.wired.it/magazine/archivio/2009/06/storie/chiedi-chi-era-quel-%ABbeatle%BB-.aspx

You'll have to come up with a better excuse than the old 'The mass media would stop the truth getting out' line. :rolleyes:

You don't have to be rich to sue. Take him to the small claims court in the UK. Only costs about £100. :rolleyes:

But we know no PIDDER will do this. You are all talk and no action. Your so called "proof" is non existent and you know you'd be laughed out of court.

Sorry but I don't live in UK I live on the other side of the Atlantic Canada.

socrates

20-08-2009, 08:15 PM

Sorry but I don't live in UK I live on the other side of the Atlantic Canada.

LOL!

There are PIDDERS in the UK, you know! :D

And none of them have ever sued.

That says it all.

dedesuperman

20-08-2009, 09:31 PM

LOL!

There are PIDDERS in the UK, you know! :D

And none of them have ever sued.

That says it all.

Socrates you didn't ever think that those that PID are knowing the maneuvers and tactical of the Illuminatis would be ready to expose themselves and to become the target to be eliminated to reason they would unveil the truth? Once we exposes ourself publicly, we possibly risks to be tracked down sooner or later by them (Illuminatis) and of fear to be killed, people prefer revealed the truth in forums as this one and of others forum because it is a tool the freedom of speech who doesn't bother these people in power. Maybe it's why the PID don't try to sued Sir Paul McCartney it's my theory!

Maybe I can refresh your memory apparently some witness in the JFK affairs have been killed or éliminated because they were ready to say (or add) a version different of those dictated of the Warren commission. I don't know if you know it or be informed of that? I don't have all details but I know that in the JFK movie they speak of it

Possibly same things about Paul McCartney the experience of the past shows us to be wise as a dove. Maybe you would be ready to sacrifice your life for the truth but for what price? Think about the consequence you unveil the truth but at the same time you bring a sentence of death for your family and friends. Do you ready to do that? I know that you are a PIA but if one day your discover the truth :rolleyes: you are going to understand the idleness of the PID surely. As we says action brings a reaction and a reaction produces a lot of things and it maybe as devastating as redeeming. Think about it!

I don't speak for all is just my opinion!

socrates

20-08-2009, 09:43 PM

Socrates you didn't ever think that those that PID are knowing the maneuvers and tactical of the Illuminatis would be ready to expose themselves and to become the target to be eliminated to reason they would unveil the truth?

Why would the Illuminati want to kill anybody for 'exposing' what the Illuminati themselves have 'exposed' in the Wired article? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:
Sorry - your argument doesn't add up whatsoever.

And have the two scientists in the Wired article been killed yet?

No. :rolleyes:

Bad argument.

Once we exposes ourself publicly, we possibly risks to be tracked down sooner or later by them (Illuminatis) and of fear to be killed,

See above.

dedesuperman

20-08-2009, 10:00 PM

Why would the Illuminati want to kill anybody for exposing what the Illuminati themselves have exposed in the Wired article? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:
Sorry - your argument is contradictory and doesn't add up.

And have the two scientists in the Wired article been killed yet?

No. :rolleyes:

Bad argument.

See above.

Who says that the Wired article is made up by the Illuminati themselves? Is it you socrates or PIA theorist or better than that, if it is the Illuminatis that made it that is to sow confusion and to prevent the truth is unveiled in order to ridiculed those that are PID. And that works marvellously! n'est-ce pas! :D

These two scientists are not been killed yet but who knowns it is a question of time, don't worry they will find a means to make pass their death in a natural way as pope Jean-Paul 1st.

Wait and see!

socrates

20-08-2009, 10:20 PM

Who says that the Wired article is made up by the Illuminati themselves?

The Illuminati control the mass media, don't they? You said it yourself:

those that control the medias.... would manage to show that he is the true Paul McCartney.

So do your fellow PIDDERS:

I really think it's the Illuminati. I think they were behind Paul's death, the cover-up, the threats, the control of the media, etc.

Do you know who owns Wired?

Only one of the biggest and most powerful media coporations in the world. :rolleyes:

Wired is owned by Condé Nast Publications, Inc., a worldwide magazine publishing company. Their main offices are located in New York, Miami, London, Milan, Paris, Madrid and Tokyo. Condé Nast is run by S.I. Newhouse Jr.

By 1998 the group included 17 such publications, many of them the largest in their markets. It had an average total circulation of over 13 million issues a month, and an estimated actual readership five times larger than that.

The Condé Nast family of publications also includes Fairchild Publications, a former competitor before it was bought by S.I. Newhouse Jr. Fairchild publishes many successful monthly magazines in addition to the specialized daily trade publication Women's Wear Daily.

Condé Nast Media Group is the corporate sales and marketing arm of the company and the creator of the 3-year-old fashion and music spectacular on CBS called Fashion Rocks.

The company publishes one of the most recognizable magazine portfolios in the industry.

Fashion and lifestyle

* Vogue
* W
* Glamour
* Allure
* Self
* Teen Vogue
* GQ
* Details
* Lucky
* Easy Living

Home

* Architectural Digest
* Maison & Jardin
* Vogue Decoration

Bridal

* Brides
* Modern Bride
* Elegant Bride

Family

* Cookie

Golf

* Golf Digest
* Golf World
* Golf for Women

Food

* Gourmet
* Bon Appétit

Travel

* Condé Nast Traveler

Technology

* Wired
* Ars Technica
* Webmonkey

Culture

* Vanity Fair
* The New Yorker

Condé Nast is owned by billionaire, Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse.

From Illuminati-News.com:

Quite a few larger Independent Newspapers are owned by Jewish interests as well. An example is media mogul Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse, who owns two dozen daily newspapers from Staten Island to Oregon, plus the Sunday supplement Parade; the Conde Nast collection of magazines, including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self; the publishing firms of Random House, Knopf, Crown, and Ballantine, among other imprints; and cable franchises with over one million subscribers."

http://www.illuminati-news.com/Articles/42.html

Is it you socrates or PIA theorist or better than that, if it is the Illuminatis that made it that is to sow confusion

Why would they want to "sow confusion" about something they have (according to PIDDERS) gone to great pains and expense to keep quiet for over FORTY years? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Your argument is ridiculous!

and to prevent the truth is unveiled in order to ridiculed those that are PID.

By using scientists to give credibility to PID via the Wired article? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Again, your argument doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever!

These two scientists are not been killed yet

Which so far proves your argument completely baseless, groundless and flawed.

Wait until you have some evidence to back up your claims. So far, you have nothing, I'm afraid. Just wild and imaginative speculation which doesn't really make any sense.

formosan termite

20-08-2009, 10:53 PM

Maybe I can refresh your memory apparently some witness in the JFK affairs have been killed or éliminated because they were ready to say (or add) a version different of those dictated of the Warren commission. I don't know if you know it or be informed of that? I don't have all details but I know that in the JFK movie they speak of it

Who was killed or eliminated? There have been hundreds of books written about the Kennedy assassination exposing the fraud. Those authors are still alive making money. Jim Garrison certainly was not killed or eliminated. Take a look on the web. There are scores of articles and websites by people who have different versions from the Warren commission. They are still around, selling books, making money and pushing their ideas. Oliver Stone is still alive and making movies. He was able to produce his movie and distribute it, and made a ton of money. Why have none of these people been killed or eliminated? Have some witnessed died? Sure. It was over 40 years ago. Everybody dies People die every day. That doesn't mean there is a conspiracy behind it.

Oh, and JFK is a movie with a LOT of artistic privileges taken. It is not reality

formosan termite

20-08-2009, 10:59 PM

One more source for William Campbell is a man who is known as "Sir Paul McCartney". And, yes, he is a liar.

Faul left some clues related to WC, Jr., for example, the songs like "Junior's Farm" and "Uncle Albert-Admiral Halsey". Also, remember Faul wearing a Campbell kilt in the 70's. Not to mention the Featles clues related to the impostor exactly as "William".

All of these supposed "clues" by Paul were left after 1969. There was no source saying anything about William Campbell winning a Paul look alike contest until Fred LaBour said so. There are no clues relating to any impostor as william. What are these clues? Does everyone who ever wore a Campbell kilt do it to refer to PID?

phrased eyebrow

21-08-2009, 03:06 AM

Does everyone who ever wore a Campbell kilt do it to refer to PID?
Never heard that one. :p I'm guessing the reason that most folks would seek out a Campbell tartan, would be out of family pride?

faulconandsnowjob

21-08-2009, 04:54 AM

But it's not true. :rolleyes:

It is true. And even if it weren't, he would never meet the standard of proof necessary for a public figure to claim defamation concerning a public matter (at least in USA), so I'm not worried.

You can sue him anyway, if you think he's a fraud. Anyone who has bought a record by Paul McCartney after PID can sue if they have proof it's not Paul McCartney.
Maybe a prosecutor should be looking at him for identity theft & fraud.

The fact that no PIDDER has ever tried to sue Paul shows that you all know that you would lose any court case.
lol It just shows you have no clue about the justice system. Also, Bettina Krischbin did try to re-open her paternity suit against him on the basis of fraud, but was shut down (wrongfully, imo).

faulconandsnowjob

21-08-2009, 05:07 AM

faulconandsnowjob

21-08-2009, 05:09 AM

Why would the Illuminati want to kill anybody for 'exposing' what the Illuminati themselves have 'exposed' in the Wired article?

I hardly think the Wired article has Illuminati support. If it is ever published in English, then maybe you could claim that, but until then, it's a weak argument. It's hardly the same thing as when LIFE magazine paraded around the imposter claiming Paul was still with us :rolleyes:

faulconandsnowjob

21-08-2009, 05:12 AM

Who says that the Wired article is made up by the Illuminati themselves? Is it you socrates or PIA theorist or better than that, if it is the Illuminatis that made it that is to sow confusion and to prevent the truth is unveiled in order to ridiculed those that are PID. And that works marvellously! n'est-ce pas! :D
Even if the Wired magazine is Illuminati-run, it doesn't in any way diminish PID as a theory. The Illuminati tell people they truth, the just don't come out & tell you. They reveal it in hidden messages & clues, like on album covers & in lyrics.

These two scientists are not been killed yet but who knowns it is a question of time, don't worry they will find a means to make pass their death in a natural way as pope Jean-Paul 1st.

Yeah, who knows? Maybe they'll get "suicided," "heart-attacked," or "accidented."

dedesuperman

21-08-2009, 05:49 AM

Who was killed or eliminated? There have been hundreds of books written about the Kennedy assassination exposing the fraud. Those authors are still alive making money. Jim Garrison certainly was not killed or eliminated. Take a look on the web. There are scores of articles and websites by people who have different versions from the Warren commission. They are still around, selling books, making money and pushing their ideas. Oliver Stone is still alive and making movies. He was able to produce his movie and distribute it, and made a ton of money. Why have none of these people been killed or eliminated? Have some witnessed died? Sure. It was over 40 years ago. Everybody dies People die every day. That doesn't mean there is a conspiracy behind it.

Oh, and JFK is a movie with a LOT of artistic privileges taken. It is not reality

formosan termite before saying that it is the fiction watches the links that I put:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/deaths.html
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdeaths.htm

Now it's reality! Soon or later they strike!

faulconandsnowjob

21-08-2009, 07:23 AM

formosan termite before saying that it is the fiction watches the links that I put:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/deaths.html
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdeaths.htm

Not to go off on a JFK tangent, but it takes about 15 minutes of research to figure out that the "official" story is total BS - unless you believe a bullet can change direction 5 times in mid-air. :p But I'm forgetting that this is a thread where some people think a guy can change eye color, rearrange his face & grow 2 1/2 inches at 24 :p

boots

21-08-2009, 08:19 AM

Not to go off on a JFK tangent, but it takes about 15 minutes of research to figure out that the "official" story is total BS - unless you believe a bullet can change direction 5 times in mid-air. :p But I'm forgetting that this is a thread where some people think a guy can change eye color, rearrange his face & grow 2 1/2 inches at 24 :p

It takes about 15 mins of observation to figure out that Paul Mc Cartney is still alive.

.

phrased eyebrow

21-08-2009, 01:39 PM

It takes about 15 mins of observation to figure out that Paul Mc Cartney is still alive.

.

You have to "figure it out" to accept the truth you hold so dear? Take more time, you're cheating yourself. :)

triso

21-08-2009, 01:48 PM

some people just really like conspiricies and find them anywhere. Some are just not true. It's select vision, your choosing what you want to see.

mind1universe

21-08-2009, 02:10 PM

some people just really like conspiricies and find them anywhere. Some are just not true. It's select vision, your choosing what you want to see.

You don't choose at all, which is worse. You accept the dandy disney world view that everything is normal.:D

The wool have been cover your eyes. Where as we see it for what it is.

mind1universe

21-08-2009, 02:11 PM

It takes about 15 mins of observation to figure out that Paul Mc Cartney is still alive.

.

Well your going to have really get the brain cells and observation skills ticking

socrates

21-08-2009, 02:54 PM

But it's not true.

It is true.

Prove it then. You won't because you have no credible evidence for your outlandish claim whatsoever.

It is merely an unsupported opinion based on an overactive imagination and too much time spent on PID forums.

And even if it weren't, he would never meet the standard of proof necessary for a public figure to claim defamation concerning a public matter (at least in USA), so I'm not worried.

LOL! Falsely calling a famous musician a "scammer" is libel - FACT.

Libel is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

Maybe a prosecutor should be looking at him for identity theft & fraud.

"Maybe" no prosecutor has because there is no credible evidence. :rolleyes:

The fact that no PIDDER has ever tried to sue Paul shows that you all know that you would lose any court case.

lol It just shows you have no clue about the justice system.

I have more of a clue than you obviously do!

Impersonation for financial gain is a criminal offence. If you have credible evidence that Paul isn't Paul then take your evidence to the authorities and they will take it from there.

Oh, but I forgot... The authorities are part of the Illuminati and will just brush it under the carpet won't they....? :rolleyes:

(Just like Wired did, er, didn't! :eek:)

mind1universe

21-08-2009, 03:03 PM

Prove it then. You won't because you have no credible evidence for your outlandish claim whatsoever.

Prove him wrong.

It is merely an unsupported opinion based on an overactive imagination and too much time spent on PID forums. Em, no.

LOL! Falsely calling a famous musician a "scammer" is libel - FACT.

Let him sue me, I will bankrupt him.;):D:D:D:D:D

You wouldn't go there if I were you.

Libel is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

I would suspect Paul wouldn't be happy about this. You know Paul the real Paul.

"Maybe" no prosecutor has because there is no credible evidence. :rolleyes:

Al you have to do is look outside and see the birds singing. Some people wouldn't even notice the birds, is that the norm with society.

Not A-WARE.

Impersonation for financial gain is a criminal offence. If you have credible evidence that Paul isn't Paul then take your evidence to the authorities and they will take it from there.

Oh, but I forgot... The authorities are part of the Illuminati and will just brush it under the carpet won't they....? :rolleyes:

(Just like Wired did, er, didn't! :eek:)

Oh i love this.

Keep it up.

socrates

21-08-2009, 03:06 PM

I hardly think the Wired article has Illuminati support.

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Wired is owned by Condé Nast Publications, Inc., a worldwide magazine publishing company. Their main offices are located in New York, Miami, London, Milan, Paris, Madrid and Tokyo. Condé Nast is run by S.I. Newhouse Jr.

By 1998 the group included 17 such publications, many of them the largest in their markets. It had an average total circulation of over 13 million issues a month, and an estimated actual readership five times larger than that.

The Condé Nast family of publications also includes Fairchild Publications, a former competitor before it was bought by S.I. Newhouse Jr. Fairchild publishes many successful monthly magazines in addition to the specialized daily trade publication Women's Wear Daily.

Condé Nast Media Group is the corporate sales and marketing arm of the company and the creator of the 3-year-old fashion and music spectacular on CBS called Fashion Rocks.

The company publishes one of the most recognizable magazine portfolios in the industry.

Fashion and lifestyle

* Vogue
* W
* Glamour
* Allure
* Self
* Teen Vogue
* GQ
* Details
* Lucky
* Easy Living

Home

* Architectural Digest
* Maison & Jardin
* Vogue Decoration

Bridal

* Brides
* Modern Bride
* Elegant Bride

Family

* Cookie

Golf

* Golf Digest
* Golf World
* Golf for Women

Food

* Gourmet
* Bon Appétit

Travel

* Condé Nast Traveler

Technology

* Wired
* Ars Technica
* Webmonkey

Culture

* Vanity Fair
* The New Yorker

Condé Nast is owned by billionaire, Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse.

It's so funny that just because one of the biggest and most powerful media giants in the world - Condé Nast - publishes something positive about PID, our resident Illuminati expert proclaims that they aren't part of the Illuminati!

Hilarious!

According to you, the mass media is controlled by the illuminati:

I really think it's the Illuminati. I think they were behind Paul's death, the cover-up, the threats, the control of the media

Your mental gymnastics, self contradiction and perversion of logic in order to suit your claims is incredible.

If it is ever published in English, then maybe you could claim that,

WTF?! What difference does it make what language it's in?!!

Incredible... Just incredible.....

socrates

21-08-2009, 03:10 PM

Prove him wrong.

I'm not the one making the extraordinary claim. It's not up to me to prove it, it's up to the claimant. That's how it works. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I can't be bothered with the rest of your weird ramblings. Go back to talking about toast and posting weird poems while I argue with the others. :rolleyes:

mind1universe

21-08-2009, 03:13 PM

I'm not the one making the extraordinary claim. It's not up to me to prove it, it's up to the claimant. That's how it works. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I can't be bothered with the rest of your weird ramblings. Go back to talking about toast and posting weird poems while I argue with the others. :rolleyes:

You make a lot of extraordinary claims.

The non extraordinary bit is you just repeat the crap.

There is nothing weird about cranberry sauce is there;) Oh we better shut up John now. He had a beef dinner recently before he died. I'm nearly sure the beef was not well cooked, it look a bit bloody.

It turned out the the guy shot him for saying that.

WHOOPS.

socrates

21-08-2009, 03:49 PM

some people just really like conspiricies and find them anywhere. Some are just not true. It's select vision, your choosing what you want to see.

Sad, but true. :(

fireman

21-08-2009, 04:29 PM

This one goes out to Faulcon, Truthseeker and the funky bunch:

PID brain melt

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/faul1.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/paul1-1.jpg

:confused:

What is your opinion? Does the first one look like Faul? Does the second one look like Paul?

What's deal? Please decide, do the look alike? Is one of them ugly?

:cool:

faulconandsnowjob

22-08-2009, 02:32 AM

... If his work, shown in before-and-after photos on his Web site, appears startling in its verisimilitude, that's because Barron worries the details, down to the hairs visible on an ear and the freckles on a nose. "It's just like in the Agency," he says. "I wouldn't issue [agents] a disguise if their life would be in jeopardy" as the result of a less-than-perfect disguise...

For a Former CIA Master of Disguises, An Eye for an Eye
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/18/AR2007051801657.html

Maybe they should have gotten Robert Barron to make Faul's fake ears :-P

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/antiKitano/PDVD_005.jpg

But I guess the stakes weren't that high...

...With [Robert] Barron's help, CIA disguises were soon years ahead of Hollywood's. There was motivation: Espionage wasn't fantasy, but serious business in which an unrealistic eyebrow or false skin tone could be fatal...

Crafting Hope
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201310_5.html

mind1universe

22-08-2009, 02:53 AM

that is fauls nose, ears and jawline. it is faiirly obvious.

But his facial feature are very similar. Simple makeup, hairstyles, eyebrow reshaping and facial movement teaching can make a huge difference. I have a friend of mine who I know in another country. Who looks like me. We actually look like brothers. The only difference his face is more square than mine. The facial features such as the eyes are nearly identical. If I was to look more like him, it would be very easy to do.

The fact that so many people were involved in the coverup with millions to back him as the new Paul. it's pretty easy to do. It's very obvious with the pics in 1967. The sudden change, of styles and mustache was all a stunt to defer the attention off the replacement. The beatles wanted to expose it. But their lives were at risk. The beatles was a multi million dollar Illuminati medium. The beatles were so big, they needed them to keep going. If a replacement was needed then it was going to happen. It is a ruthless business. The commerical music industry is a distraction and poison to the mind anyway

In case anyone found out about the replacement. They hired many people like on this thread on other forums to keep the conspiracy full of bullshit. So when people start getting lost in the maze of it, they forget to look at faul and who he really is. The other technique. Was to make faul more like paul in every way possible. A little bit of surgery can make him almost a replica.

I'm getting the feeling ive been here before. like my past self was here typing this :D Seems like its an imprtant message. Hi to all the dis info agents.

boots

22-08-2009, 02:53 AM

It's a hair.
Socrates posted the vid showing it not over the ear.

If that is a fake ear then I'd be sacking the person who fitted it.

theenlightenedone

22-08-2009, 03:18 AM

mind1universe

22-08-2009, 03:25 AM

hey mind1universe, how did the Illuminati pull of all that surgery, without leaving any scars, In 3 months? Also, If he had surgery during the time he had the beard, how did he grow it? :D From what I know, you can't grow hair out of scars :cool: Was it a chin-wig? ;)

The surgery was gradual and ongoing and for a lot of years;)

Scars can easily be hidden or removed. Anyone the surgury he had done was not extensive, for he looks alot like Paul anyway. He got away with is because he was aging and people don't pay so much attention to detail on peoples facial features closely.

It;s true that there is 7 people in the world that look almost like you.;)

mind1universe

22-08-2009, 03:40 AM

boots

22-08-2009, 07:22 AM

hey mind1universe, how did the Illuminati pull of all that surgery, without leaving any scars, In 3 months? Also, If he had surgery during the time he had the beard, how did he grow it? :D From what I know, you can't grow hair out of scars :cool: Was it a chin-wig? ;)

Very logical.

Isn't is stupid to ask questions like this.

No it's quite logical. Logic,something you are in serious lack off.

Taking another look at that quote of your's. It's a Freudian slip. (Is not stupid to ask questions like this ).

fireman

22-08-2009, 07:50 AM

Faulcon and Truthseeker didn't reply...

Mind1universe said:

that is fauls nose, ears and jawline. it is faiirly obvious.

This one goes out to Faulcon, Truthseeker and the funky bunch:

PID brain melt

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/faul1.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/paul1-1.jpg

:confused:

What is your opinion? Does the first one look like Faul? Does the second one look like Paul?

What's deal? Please decide, do the look alike? Is one of them ugly?

:cool:

theenlightenedone

22-08-2009, 01:30 PM

Isn't is stupid to ask questions like this.

No, it's perfectly legit. If "Faul" had surgery, how did they hide the scars? And if he had surgery during the "Let It Be" period, how did he grow a beard?

faulconandsnowjob

22-08-2009, 07:43 PM

Paul was replaced in 1966. That's been proven by forensic science. Why are people so resistant to this fact?

faulconandsnowjob

22-08-2009, 08:11 PM

More on doubles creation using prosthetics:

ASHBURN, United States (AFP) - For over two decades, Barron was a master of disguise who made the fake noses, chins, skin and ears needed to protect the identities of Central Intelligence Agency operatives in the Cold War.

He even created whole faces to make "doubles" -- people who pose as someone else...

"I thought if I could put someone in hiding, which I did in the agency, then a prosthetic device will bring people out of hiding," Barron said.

"If I can change people's identity, I can also give a person his identity back." ...

His spy years gave him the basis for his new career. "When I worked for the CIA I put people in hiding, I changed people's identities and also I made doubles.

"Agents depended on the realism of their disguise to keep them alive, this was my responsibility," he said, refusing to give any specifics of missions behind the communist Iron Curtain...

Ex-CIA disguise master helps disfigured people
http://news.sawf.org/Lifestyle/4825.aspx

... Barron's feats were "legend," a CIA spokesman confirms. His "artistic skills were unmatched," former CIA director James Woolsey wrote in awarding the Career Intelligence Medal at Barron's 1993 retirement:

"He was the impetus of the advanced disguise system and the ideal by which all other disguise officers are judged. . . . His creativity [was] extremely instrumental in . . . what the silicone mask is today."

Silicone, which can be tinted to look like flesh, came into wide use in the 1970s. Barron could make a Caucasian CIA operative appear Chinese with a mask so realistic the agent could pass undetected within a few feet of a border guard in bright sunlight...

Crafting Hope
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201310_2.html

socrates

22-08-2009, 09:33 PM

Paul was replaced in 1966. That's been proven by forensic science. Why are people so resistant to this fact?

Because we know it's a bare-faced lie. :rolleyes:

fireman

22-08-2009, 09:37 PM

Still no reply from Faulcon or Truthseeker to my post above.

How comes? The differences between "Paul" and "Faul" should be obvious to you!

:D

socrates

22-08-2009, 09:50 PM

Maybe they should have gotten Robert Barron to make Faul's fake ears :-P

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/antiKitano/PDVD_005.jpg

It's incredible that people are so brainwashed by PID that they think it's a false ear. :eek:

They aren't observant enough, obviously.

It's just a stray hair.

A couple of frames later - and you can clearly see that the 'false ear' has 'disappeared':

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8840/61044004.jpg

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yet you keep posting your bullshit photo over and over and over as some kind of 'evidence'.

It's STUPID. :rolleyes:

PIDDERS have us believe that the all powerful Illuminati with their secret, ultra advanced technology, had Paul running around with fake ears stuck to the side of his head! And not only that, but these Illuminati ears were so badly made that they kept coming off!

WTF?!

Pathetic!

Here's some real evidence they're the same guy:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1120/screenhunter99.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/914/screenhunter56.jpghttp://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4286/screenhunter57.jpg

Same freckles........ same guy.

mind1universe

22-08-2009, 11:43 PM

socrates

22-08-2009, 11:48 PM

theenlightenedone

22-08-2009, 11:51 PM

even though some of live your lives with the dis info. Sad really.

Wanna know what's REALLY sad?
You actually believing that we are dis-info agents ;)

socrates

22-08-2009, 11:54 PM

Wanna know what's REALLY sad?
You actually believing that we are dis-info agents ;)

And that Paul has been replaced.... :rolleyes:

theenlightenedone

23-08-2009, 01:19 AM

And that Paul has been replaced.... :rolleyes:

Yeah, that too :D

toty1994

23-08-2009, 01:23 AM

In case anyone found out about the replacement. They hired many people like on this thread on other forums to keep the conspiracy full of bullshit. Hi to all the dis info agents.

Hi to you too. I haven't posted on this thread for a while because there's been a problem with my payments lately - some mix-up with another agent or something (so they say - yeah right). I've had enough. Why should I come on forums like this to say 'Paul's alive' if I'm not getting paid properly?

It's simply not good enough and I don't care if I get into trouble with my masters for spilling the beans.

socrates

23-08-2009, 01:32 AM

Hi to you too. I haven't posted on this thread for a while because there's been a problem with my payments lately - some mix-up with another agent or something (so they say - yeah right). I've had enough. Why should I come on forums like this to say 'Paul's alive' if I'm not getting paid properly?

It's simply not good enough and I don't care if I get into trouble with my masters for spilling the beans.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/shhh.jpg http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/graphics/papasgotabrandnewcat.jpg

http://images.zaazu.com/img/afraid-male-afraid-frightened-smiley-emoticon-000293-design.gif

faulconandsnowjob

23-08-2009, 03:00 AM

More about prosthetic ears b/c Faul had some not very convincing ones:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/FakingIt.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/LuckEars2.jpg

... Barron was working on a false ear for five year old Peter Dankelson, who suffers from a birth deformity, when AFP interviewed him...

Barron had baked the new ear in an oven and, taking it from the mold, he applied a special glue and placed it on the left side of the boy's head, all the while explaining to Peter's mother Dede how to remove the ear at night and replace it in the morning.

He then took a palette of colors and a small paintbrush to color the prosthetic ear until it fit perfectly with Peter's face. It was a mirror image of the boy's other ear...

Ex-CIA disguise master helps disfigured people
http://news.sawf.org/Lifestyle/4825.aspx

... (Kim Williams of Chicago paid surgeons $30,000 to fix her son's ear, but nine operations left it "lumpy and deformed." For less than a quarter that amount, she says, Barron made an "eerily real" ear and "covered up the scars and the ugliness of the surgeries." ...

Crafting Hope
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201310_4.html

Then he does the same with a healthy substitute -- for a bad ear, he'll copy the other ear and sculpt a mirror image by hand...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201310_5.html

... "It was a beautiful little blond gal, about 12," Saunders recalls, "and she'd been through a dozen operations that hadn't done any good. Bob had fashioned this little ear for her, and stuck a little gold earring on it.

"When she held up the mirror, this huge smile broke out and tears came down her face...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201310_5.html

faulconandsnowjob

23-08-2009, 03:32 AM

More about prosthetic noses:

... In Bev's case, the nose he's working on today is one of dozens he's fashioned in the quest for perfection.

At first Bev's niece Kathy Miele had volunteered her nose as a model. Barron had made a replica, tried it.

Not quite right.

Then one day he appeared with another nose in the little cardboard box of implements he carries to appointments.

"Oh," Bev exclaimed. "What a cute little nose!" ...

"I'm going to have a nose for Christmas," she chuckles.

Suddenly, Barron breezes in with the cardboard box under his arm -- it contains the latest version of Bev's nose -- and Singer summons everyone inside.

As Bev reclines in the dental chair, Singer and Barron hover over her, checking the nose's fit.

Singer also checks the underlying plastic inserts -- upper jaw, lower denture, and connecting vertical piece -- that he's painstakingly crafted and adjusted over months.

"All right, that worked out pretty good," Barron observes. "It looks believable now!" ...

[W]hen the nose finally fits, there will be a perfect seal and she'll be able to breathe through it normally without air irritating sensitive inner tissues...

"I'll skive that down a little," Barron says when Singer points to a spot where the nose doesn't quite feather perfectly into Bev's cheek.

Off comes the nose, and Barron starts whittling on it while Singer rushes to his lab to make a corresponding adjustment to a plastic insert. Then Singer returns, and they try again...

Singer and Barron won't be finished with Bev until next June, after a Baltimore surgeon under Singer's supervision implants titanium posts in her forehead and jaw to hold her whole prosthetic structure firm.

Then, Barron will produce the final version of her nose. He's told Gary his fee will be less than $9,000, and Singer will charge less than $7,000. "Worth every penny," in Gary's view...

Now they're sprinting to give her a realistic temporary nose for Christmas, to be held in place by her glasses...

Thus it is that Barron now gets out his paints and brushes and hovers over Bev.

With palette held high in one hand, he dabs daintily at her nose -- all versions to this point have been somewhat gray -- to make it match her skin...
Suddenly, Bev's nose looks real. Her face looks normal...

"I'll tell you," Gary murmurs, "that really blended in there nice." ..

"Oh, that's beautiful. It looks like my nose!"

And after she's breathed through it awhile: "I can't believe it doesn't hurt!" ...

She's sitting at the kitchen table now, smiling, her new nose almost seamlessly in place...

It's Christmas Eve. Bev has waited till now to take her nose out on a test run, and she's eager...

"It looks perfectly normal," marvels Skip Stine. "It's amazing how close your nose is to what it used to be."

"Yup, I got what I wanted!" Bev says with a grin. "I got my nose back." ...

Crafting Hope
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201310_5.html

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/FakingIt.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/Sept_8_1968_04.jpg

Paul's nose:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/MichelleVintage.jpg

faulconandsnowjob

23-08-2009, 03:59 AM

Beatles 1966 Last interview - YouTube

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphisbeatles1966b.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/Far07.jpg

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphis_66_comp.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/lsd_02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/LSD-1.jpghttp://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/Paul_66_last_interview.jpg

boots

23-08-2009, 07:24 AM

^^

Disinfo.

Your a lawyer aren't you Falcon? The legal system is the biggest tool of the Iluminati ever.

If you had any moral fibre, you would join the FOTL movement and make headway in that area.

fireman

23-08-2009, 07:42 AM

When posting pics i want proof of the date:D

I've noticed they double up pics all after 1966

I want pictures with proven dates. pre 1966 one, and after 1966.

I'm not falling for the crap guys. Your going to have try harder, even though some of live your lives with the dis info. Sad really.

lol. a beatles fan would tell you on first side if the pictures in the comps are before or after oktober 1966!! :rolleyes:

please show me which one you mean??

What about the "big differences" between Paul and "Faul"?

Can't even see them? lol!

@ Faulcon

1. somehow you ignored this little game. can't solve the mystery?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1210646&postcount=2204

2. Pauls ears do NOT look different. I have shown PIDers many pics of before 1967 where Pauls earlobe looks totally different on every shot. It all depends on the lightning source. There are enough photos after 1966 where his ear looks EXACTLY like before 1966. YOU ignore that fact.

READ THIS:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1088939&postcount=1467

Your posts are loosing any validity whatsoever if you keep ignoring these points!

:rolleyes:

faulconandsnowjob

23-08-2009, 08:00 AM

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphisbeatles1966b.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/1968_May23_Loving_05.jpg

boots

23-08-2009, 08:21 AM

Mmm Paul M smiling, Paul M not smiling. Photo's months apart.

Really, you class this as evidence??

boots

23-08-2009, 08:31 AM

fireman

23-08-2009, 09:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tyxp8U_zCk

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphisbeatles1966b.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/1968_May23_Loving_05.jpg

Mmm Paul M smiling, Paul M not smiling. Photo's months apart.

Really, you class this as evidence??

You are right boots, it's ridiculous.

And it's not month apart, but 2 years apart...

HEY FAULCON! Why don't you compare 2 frames where they actualy make the same expression??

WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE NOW??

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/better-comp1.gif

check this out :D

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/better-comp1_fade.gif

PID is dead! Paul is alive!!

:cool:

boots

23-08-2009, 09:54 AM

You are right boots, it's ridiculous.

And it's not month apart, but 2 years apart...

Ok thanks for the correction fireman.

You can change within 2 years. as with the hair style and losing weight, especially around the face.

I didn't see my son for over a year and boy had he changed. He lost weight and looked totally different. Still had the same nose, eyes, chin and ears.

socrates

23-08-2009, 12:14 PM

HEY FAULCON! Why don't you compare 2 frames where they actualy make the same expression??

And why does she use a blurry, poor quality photo of 'Faul' instead of a clear, good quality one?

Because the 'differences' wouldn't be the same. :)

She must think people are stupid! :mad:

WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE NOW??

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/better-comp1.gif

check this out :D

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/better-comp1_fade.gif

MASTERPIECE!

When you compare good quality pics, with similar expressions and angles it's clearly the same guy. :rolleyes:

How anyone can think those are two different people is beyond reason. I guess some people don't have very good observational skills - such as not noticing Paul had freckles before 1966. :D

socrates

23-08-2009, 03:08 PM

PID almost saw the inside of a courtroom, but was, unfortunately, shut down. Bettina Krischbin's paternity suit against Paul McCartney claimed a stand in was sent for a blood test in 1983.

Ok, let's get this straight....

You are claiming that the reason 'Faul' sent in a 'stand in' was because he isn't really Paul McCartney - hence: ""PID almost saw the inside of a courtroom".

Let's look at some FACTS from the article:

Bettina Krischbin, a 46-year-old Berliner, claims that the superstar is her dad. She also says he sent a stand-in to take a blood test back in the 1980s.

The woman, who works as a caretaker in an old people's home in Berlin, claims her mother, Erika Hübers, had an affair with the British musician between 1959 and 1962. At the time the Beatles were playing on Hamburg's infamous Reeperbahn and hadn't yet risen to fame.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,483950,00.html

Why, exactly, would a fake Paul McCartney need to use a stand-in for the paternity blood test?

Bettina Krischbin was conceived between 1959 - 1962 PRE PID!

'Faul' wouldn't need a stand in because he couldn't possibly be the father! :D:D:D:D

If anything, if Paul did use a stand in, it's because he is the real Paul McCartney and he didn't want them proving he is the father!

However, to complicate matters in 1966 Sir Paul paid Ms Heubers mother £2,600 to settle a child maintenance claim, although no paternity test was taken at the time and Sir Paul at the time denied paternity.
http://www.ibdna.com/regions/UK/EN/?page=theBeatlesBattle

This 'evidence' for PID is exactly the opposite! :rolleyes:

It's evidence he is the real Paul McCartney!

And you want us to believe that you're a lawyer?

Okaaay....

http://images.zaazu.com/img/daze-male-cross-eye-dizzy-smiley-emoticon-000296-large.gif

formosan termite

23-08-2009, 06:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tyxp8U_zCk

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphisbeatles1966b.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/1968_May23_Loving_05.jpg

Whoa! One small picture compared against one big stretched one. And with different expressions. To do proper comps, they must be properly sized and you must use similar expressions.

Happy to help with this.:)

formosan termite

23-08-2009, 06:53 PM

You are right boots, it's ridiculous.

And it's not month apart, but 2 years apart...

HEY FAULCON! Why don't you compare 2 frames where they actualy make the same expression??

WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE NOW??

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/better-comp1.gif

check this out :D

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/diabolo123/better-comp1_fade.gif

PID is dead! Paul is alive!!

:cool:

AUSGETZEISHNET!

When the comp is done correctly, it is easy to see it is the same person. It is like by using two way different sized photos (the big one looks stretched) and ones with different expressions, a person is trying to fool people into thinking it is two different people.

theenlightenedone

23-08-2009, 06:55 PM

Actually, I've always thought that the 1968 "Classical" interview looked compressed. Not much, but just sligthly.

formosan termite

23-08-2009, 06:58 PM

Why, exactly, would a fake Paul McCartney need to use a stand-in for the paternity blood test?

This is great PIA evidence. A fake Paul would not have to have a stand-in for a blood test in order to deny paternity. It also shows that this person who knew Paul intimately believes that Paul is still the real Paul.

Seems that people who really knew Paul up close and for real, believe that Paul is still alive.

formosan termite

23-08-2009, 08:01 PM

But I'm forgetting that this is a thread where some people think a guy can change eye color, rearrange his face & grow 2 1/2 inches at 24 :p

**Sigh**

SOS

The point is the eyes did not change color. They were and are hazel. Hazel eyes can shift color from brown to green. We have backed that up with many sources.

The shape of the face is the same. We have backed that up with dozens of correctly done comps.

Paul did not grow 2 inches. We never said he did. We have shown that there is no height difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjpxr2_sGg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmaccafunhouse%2Eproboards%2Ecom% 2Findex%2Ecgi%3Fboard%3Dpid%26action%3Ddisplay%26t hread%3D3849&feature=player_embedded#t=76

formosan termite

23-08-2009, 08:05 PM

formosan termite before saying that it is the fiction watches the links that I put:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/deaths.html
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdeaths.htm

Now it's reality! Soon or later they strike!

Not appropriate for this thread. (But they sure took a long time to get Garrison, and are taking a long time to get Stone.)
http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100menu.html
http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100deaths.html

formosan termite

23-08-2009, 08:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNhTU6iBzDk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmaccafunhouse%2Eproboards%2Ecom% 2Findex%2Ecgi%3Fboard%3Dpid%26action%3Ddisplay%26t hread%3D3849&feature=player_embedded

Same walk. Same run. Same mannerisms. Same guy.

magnolia_xx

24-08-2009, 03:06 PM

More about prosthetic noses:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/FakingIt.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/Sept_8_1968_04.jpg

Paul's nose:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/MichelleVintage.jpg

Please Faulcon, do you REALLY believe that these photos are showing fake ears?

magnolia_xx

24-08-2009, 03:40 PM

PS sorry I did not introduce myself, hi everybody here, I am a PIAer and I actually escaped from a PID forum... I am so glad to find some common sense here! ;)

ivgg

24-08-2009, 04:08 PM

PS sorry I did not introduce myself, hi everybody here, I am a PIAer and I actually escaped from a PID forum... I am so glad to find some common sense here! ;)

Welcome!!!!

magnolia_xx

24-08-2009, 04:46 PM

Thank you! I am a big fan of Paul McCartney and I was shocked when I read the magazine "Wired" with the infamous article (I am Italian).
In the beginning I did not know anything about the PID forums and I just thought that Paul is Dead was a hilarious 1969 hoax, soon confuted by facts.
Then I realized that there are many people who need to believe in conspiracies and murders so much that they lose any contact with reality and good common sense.
The problem in my opinion is that the 2 scientists involved in the research about Paul McCartney actually used photos taken from PID forums, I easily recognized them surfing on the web... all they could do was to find some unexplainable differences but (please take notice of this) they did not conclude that the photos were about 2 different people: they just said that further investigations were needed.
Obviously if they compared doctored photos they could but conclude that they did not match!
But some people now are using this debatable study as a battering-ram, as an inconfutable prove for what they want to believe.
They even don't realize they actually pick uncomparable photos, with totally different light, shooting angle, expressions, and even awfully compressed TV stills...
And I think that many of them are in good faith... how sad.

formosan termite

24-08-2009, 05:01 PM

magnolia_xx

24-08-2009, 07:00 PM

Hi, here are the actual words of the two scientists at the end of the "Wired" article:

«Io ancora adesso non so cosa dire, anzi cosa dirmi», ammette Gavazzeni che di McCartney, chiunque egli sia, si dichiara fan. Mentre Carlesi si limita a osservare: «I dubbi sono molto forti e le discordanze numerose, ma non ci si può esprimere ancora con assoluta certezza. Soprattutto perché parliamo di un personaggio così noto e per di più vivo. Davanti a un cadavere sarei più netta: i dati emersi mi avrebbero indotto e autorizzato a procedere con più esami approfonditi e dirimenti. Comunque, se sostituzione c'è stata, il vero capolavoro è stato quello di trovare un sosia con caratteristiche antropometriche tutto sommato molto vicine all'"originale"», ammette. «C'è da dire che l'analisi antropometrica va, necessariamente, corredata da esami di altro tipo per formulare una perizia certa al 100 per cento».

And this is my translation, I tried to translate very carefully to avoid biases from my own point of view, sorry if my English is not very good:

"I still do not know what to say, or better still, what to say to myself", admits Gavazzeni, who declares to be a fan of McCartney - whoever he is. While Carlesi just remarks: "The doubts are very strong, and there are many mismatches, but it is not possible to express any absolute certainty. This especially because we are speaking about such a famous, and furthermore alive, person. I would be more resolute if I were in front of a corpse: the results would have induced and autorized me to go on with more in-depth and deciding exams. Anyway, if a replacement happened, the real masterwork was to find a double whose anthropometric characteristics were very close to the 'original', she admits. "We must say that anthropometric analyses must be necessarily accompanied by other exams to be able to formulate a 100% sure forensic report".

So, in my opinion they are saying that they would need other data than just the measurements on the photos to be able to declare that they are two different guys...