Paul McCartney is dead.

[strt]

I don't want to offend anybody, OK?

Can somebody explain to me importance of this topic?

What if he is dead?

What if he is alive?

What if he is undead?

Thanks.

[krakhead]

I don't want to offend anybody, OK?

Can somebody explain to me importance of this topic?

What if he is dead?

What if he is alive?

What if he is undead?

Thanks.


Well from my POV, if it did indeed turn out that Paul was replaced and and the remaining Beatles placed 'hints' to inform the general public it would be a HUGE story.

The biggest band in the world able to pull such a stunt on the public?

All the implications of this would have, IMO, a massive impact on all sorts of other areas.

I find it such a shame that the evidence is, at best, sketchy! (IMHO of course! ;))

Foe example - how many 'Fauls' were there? Depending on who you speak to/read the number changes. One of the Fauls have also been said to have replaced Vivian Stanshall at one point!

I mean, FFS! :p

[faulconandsnowjob]

Can somebody explain to me importance of this topic?
Well, as I see it, it is of great importance in a couple of different ways, but I will only address the political aspect in this post.

It seems that the Beatles, very talented as they were, came under the influence of TPTB, specifically the Tavistock Institute, who catapulted them to "the toppermost of the poppermost." I suspect that Paul M wouldn't "get w/ the program" somehow - wouldn't push the drug agenda, for ex, & had to be eliminated. You can see John's rebellious spirit in '66 already when he spoke out against the Vietnam War, when I don't think they were supposed to. Anyway,tThe current "Paul" controls a vast amount of wealth. I don't think TPTB would allow a non-player to be in such a position of wealth & influence. I don't think this program of kill & replace has been limited to Paul by any means. Outing the Truth about Paul/Faul has the potential to blow the lid off of a very evil TPTB program. It's horrifying to think that they would kill & replace someone right under the noses of the masses. In fact, it's inconceivable. Perhaps that's how they've gotten away w/ it - until now.

how many 'Fauls' were there?
Don't know. Seems like at least 2. Would be interesting to pin down.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/truecolors112/part%203/1201046530_f.jpg JPM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/faul_early.jpg ???

[astrochicken]

Anyone in doubt as to the replacement of paul, or not seeing the point of establishing
whether or not he was replaced should take an hour off to read through these articles on
1. the birth of the hippy movement
2. the free love, & pop acid movement
3. mk-ultra
4. luciferian and occultism.


You won't look at stars, celebrities, rockstars and any *public* figure the same way after this, i mean, fuck, it really is a matrix.

The Laurel Canyon Story (http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/)

[size_of_light]

Has anyone compared McCartney's autograph from before and after?

There's plenty of examples on Google images.

[2013]

Whether the rea lpaul was killed and replaced or not the evidence suggests it .This plays out in the content of a lot of the songs about the sun sun king etc .All rebirth themes again put out into mass public subconscious .The same goes with Jim Morrison and his death? He was the son of an American military man a general was it ? He like most of the the 60,s rock legends was the son of military or other similar establishment people .There is a site giving info on the subject if i can find a link i will post it .It is all part of a wider picture .:D

[astrochicken]

the link was three posts up and is now below again


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[faulconandsnowjob]

Has anyone compared McCartney's autograph from before and after?

Paul
http://members.cruzio.com/~bbarrow/jpsigs.gif

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/KV_paul_note.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/KV_paul_sketch.jpg

Faul/Bill?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/paul/mccartney2.gif

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/ladygamer/qnov05_1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/Faul20letter.jpg

He [Jim Morrison] like most of the the 60,s rock legends was the son of military or other similar establishment people

Fascinating. Joe Strummer's (The Clash) father was a diplomat, was he not?

Yep, this is a mighty deep rabbit hole!

[astrochicken]

..and then there is Stewart Copeland (drummer of THE POLICE.. "every move you make i'll be watching you", "walking on the moon" LOL) who was the son of Miles Copeland (A founding member of the OSS (precursor of the CIA)), (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Copeland,_Jr.) section chief of the middle east and involved in the bay of pigs debacle..

Just check out the album cover, can it be any more obvious???????

http://www.driventotears.de/wp-content/uploads/cover-zenyattamondatta.jpg


faulconandsnowjob i hope this leads more people to question their beliefs as regards paul/faul and
realize just how far down the rabbit hole goes.

Keep it up!!

[faulconandsnowjob]

Yeah, The Police cover is quite telling indeed. Wow!

i hope this'll lead more people to open their minds and *consider* why THEY might wish to replace paul.

Yes, me too. It seems that Paul was quite the little rebel. From this interview snippet, I can't imagine that he'd go along w/ any Tavistock drug agenda, or any other agenda he didn't agree w/.

From Melody Maker 27 March 1965

... [Paul] was simply more thoughtful. Over dinner ... he spoke with Coleman. Asked Coleman, "Do you think you have some sort of responsibility to your fans? Do they look up to you?"
PAUL: "No, it would probably be a nicer answer if I said yes, we have a responsibility to fans. But I can't be noble for the sake of it. The answer's no. I don't believe we have any responsibility frankly, and it takes a bit of saying. It's insulting the intelligence of a lot of young people to say we have. We used to get requests from people, asking us if we'd go to a meeting and tell loads of people they shouldn't drink. What do they take us for? We'd get laughed at if we said the youth of Britain shouldn't drink. It'd be bloody impertinent. I haven't the right to interfere with anybody else's life. Do you think just because a Beatle said, 'Don't go beating people up.' the crime figures would go down? They wouldn't. And it's a cheek to expect us to do it. And I'd feel a right nit saying, 'Thou shalt not drink'."

Full article at
http://only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi?board=frontman&action=display&thread=841

[astrochicken]

[Paul] was simply more thoughtful. Over dinner ... he spoke with Coleman. Asked Coleman, "Do you think you have some sort of responsibility to your fans? Do they look up to you?"
PAUL: "No, it would probably be a nicer answer if I said yes, we have a responsibility to fans. But I can't be noble for the sake of it. The answer's no. I don't believe we have any responsibility frankly, and it takes a bit of saying. It's insulting the intelligence of a lot of young people to say we have. We used to get requests from people, asking us if we'd go to a meeting and tell loads of people they shouldn't drink. What do they take us for? We'd get laughed at if we said the youth of Britain shouldn't drink. It'd be bloody impertinent. I haven't the right to interfere with anybody else's life. Do you think just because a Beatle said, 'Don't go beating people up.' the crime figures would go down? They wouldn't. And it's a cheek to expect us to do it. And I'd feel a right nit saying, 'Thou shalt not drink'."

THAT'S NOT FAUL!!!

As if the photos we'rent enough.. read the full interview and note the difference.

[horus13]

..and then there is Stewart Copeland (drummer of THE POLICE.. "every move you make i'll be watching you", "walking on the moon" LOL) who was the son of Miles Copeland (A founding member of the OSS (precursor of the CIA)), (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Copeland,_Jr.) section chief of the middle east and involved in the bay of pigs debacle..

Just check out the album cover, can it be any more obvious???????

http://www.driventotears.de/wp-content/uploads/cover-zenyattamondatta.jpg


faulconandsnowjob i hope this leads more people to question their beliefs as regards paul/faul and
realize just how far down the rabbit hole goes.

Keep it up!!

sting wrote those songs actually.drummers don't really write songs. very teneous link. the triangle represents the trinity of life. mind body spirit. they're everywhere you look and only a fraction have anything to do with the 'illiminati' as david icke calls them. get a grip.

[faulconandsnowjob]

the triangle represents the trinity of life. mind body spirit

And yet horus13's avatar is the pyramid w/ the eye... how ironic.

The triangle on the Police album could very well be a reference to the pyramid. It can't be discounted out of hand.

Anyway, I don't know enough about the Police to know who wrote what, but a blanket statement that drummers don't write songs isn't going to cut it. Don Henley & Phil Collins were both drummer song-writers, n'est ce pas?

[toty1994]

'...every move you make'.

Yes, Sting did write that (Every Breath You Take) as he did nearly all Police songs. If I remember rightly it's not a love song as most think, but actually about a stalker - ironic when it's probably been an 'our song' for many couples down the years.

[astrochicken]

I saw the police play hamburg last year and saw sting give the "El Diablo" before launching into "every breath you take".

Yeah, for sure it's a song about stalking and henri paul was drunk...


It doesn't matter who wrote the song, it's a case of selling their soul to the dark side ffor manipulation of the masses in return for insane wealth. "Here's some lyrics boys, turn this into a song and we'll make sure it sells, oh, and by the way the cover of the album is a pyramid. No negotiation room there."

Play along and you get the castle full of paparazzi's, revolt and you become a legend, a martyr and shine.

As posted above Jim Morrison's father was the captain of the boat in the "gulf of tonkin" incident, the police's drummer just happened to found the OSS and and and and....

Sting's a shill and i'm convinced that 99% of high-profile *stars* are in the system. For them it's just about the fame and the money
but they are being used to manipulate the public... eg. the police, pink floyd (post-syd), the rolling stones (post-brian jones), brangelina etc. etc. etc.
All just part of the matrix.

[toty1994]

Sorry, I know this is going off topic but here's an interesting quote from the man himself about the song.

Originally thought to be about either angels, the government, parents, or kind people who are looking out for your best interests, the track was in fact written during the collapse of Sting's marriage to Frances Tomelty; the lyrics are the words of a sinister, controlling character, who is watching "every breath you take / every move you make".

“ I woke up in the middle of the night with that line in my head, sat down at the piano and had written it in half an hour. The tune itself is generic, an aggregate of hundreds of others, but the words are interesting. It sounds like a comforting love song. I didn't realise at the time how sinister it is. I think I was thinking of Big Brother, surveillance and control. ”
—Sting[1]

[astrochicken]

Sorry, I know this is going off topic but here's an interesting quote from the man himself about the song.

I can't speak for the threads author, but i don't think it's off-topic.
I think it shows how wide-spread the manipulation is and brings the PID-theory into the realm of possibility for those who wouldn't otherwise consider it.

BUT if it off-topic say something!! ;)

[faulconandsnowjob]

Personally, I don't think it's off-topic at all. I was hoping that PID/PWR would be a vehicle to uncover this kind of manipulation & control by TPTB. Paul was just one unfortunate victim of this "game," imo. Yes, indeedy, it's one deep rabbit hole!

[accuracy]

Sorry, I know this is going off topic but here's an interesting quote from the man himself about the song.



:D

It's all in the same vein of conspiracy and needs to be brought to one's attention.

The trolls diversion is a much different kettle of
fish, through their continous lies.

:)

[toty1994]

:D

It's all in the same vein of conspiracy and needs to be brought to one's attention.

The trolls diversion is a much different kettle of
fish, through their continous lies.

:)

Well, I may be regarded as a troll by some as I've already made it clear on several occasions that I don't think this particular conspiracy (PID) stands up to much scrutiny.

As for the Sting quote, I only brought that up as it contradicted astrochicken's assertion that 'Every Breath You Take' had nothing to do with stalking. Also I thought it quite ironic that Sting himself was apparently thinking of 'Big Brother, surveillance and control' when he wrote it.

I'm no fan of Sting btw - far from it!

[astrochicken]

As for the Sting quote, I only brought that up as it contradicted astrochicken's assertion that 'Every Breath You Take' had nothing to do with stalking. Also I thought it quite ironic that Sting himself was apparently thinking of 'Big Brother, surveillance and control' when he wrote it.
I'm no fan of Sting btw - far from it!

“ I woke up in the middle of the night with that line in my head, sat down at the piano and had written it in half an hour. The tune itself is generic, an aggregate of hundreds of others, but the words are interesting. It sounds like a comforting love song. I didn't realise at the time how sinister it is. I think I was thinking of Big Brother, surveillance and control. ”

MKULTRA.. "i woke up with that line in my head"... "the song just wrote itself" ,
"when i'm on stage i'm someone else" blah di blah di blah..

But where does sting's quote contradict me..
I said the song's about big brother, and the man with the implanted lyrics thought the same....

Anyway, who cares... just imagine the music paul might have made had he lived.

[faulconandsnowjob]

just imagine the music paul might have made had he lived.

That is definitely one heart-breaking aspect of all of this :-(

[devanshoom]

i wouldnt say i was entirely convinced...but the ear lobes and height thing does raise questions. When I first started reading this thread I thought it was bollocks...now i am not so sure.

But why didnt John or even George on his deathbed come out and say something? And more importantly...what was the fucking point of it all?

Somehow, looking into this Paul/Faul shite led me to watch a maralyn manson interview on youtube. Man that dude is a bit wierd.

Anyway...im done with the paul/faul thing. Maybe he is and maybe he isnt...but for me i dont really care either way. Does it really matter?

[faulconandsnowjob]

Does it really matter?

Yes.

[clint web]

Lennon was far too outspoken to have kept this quiet.

It's one of the real lunatic theories, beats even the October 14th alien visitation theory.

[faulconandsnowjob]

This is such an apropos quote w/ respect to this theory:

The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.

-- J. Edgar Hoover

I bet anyone would keep quiet if their friend & band mate had been murdered by TPTB, at least for a while. Maybe John Lennon's murder was linked to PID? Maybe someone was afraid he'd spill the beans...? Or do you believe he was killed by a crazy, lone gunman, who just happened to fly in from Hawaii to do the job? Right. Anyone who believes that story probably also believes the official govt story that Lee H. Oswald was the only one involved in JFK's assassination. Please.

Just found this interesting quote:

"[George Michael was] full of fantastical conspiracy theories and paranoia about the media and the music industry – everyone was out to get George Michael. He was cross about everyone from George Bush to Cliff Richard. ..."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2006/10/05/bmgeorge05.xml

Maybe he knew something...?

[phildee3]

Lennon was far too outspoken to have kept this quiet.



Lennon was the one who first announced it!

[clint web]

I think I'll move onto that theory about Elvis still being alive and working in McDonalds.

[2013]

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Thanks for that wanted to send it to a friend of that hippy generation to read . nice one . :D

[faulconandsnowjob]

Lennon was the one who first announced it!

Good point. He did announce it in song clues!

[faulconandsnowjob]

Think it's impossible for Paul McCartney to have been replaced?

"They [Illuminati] also replace people with doubles. For many years they recruited look-alikes who would serve their ends. Now they are perfecting cloning technology that will let them replace anybody."

Think the people who knew him would never keep quiet about it?

"Their [Illuminati's] first means of dealing with opposition is to buy it off. To any group as rich as the Illuminati, a few million dollars are nothing."

"Next they try threats. Danger to possessions, status or loved ones has dissuaded many a would-be foe of Illuminati schemes."

Think Paul couldn't have been murdered? Think they wouldn't kill his friends or family if they refused to keep quiet?

"And, of course, murder is an ancient political weapon. The Illuminati have been responsible for some of the most shocking assassinations of modern times."

Think it's impossible that the media would portray Faux Paul as real Paul?

"They control the news media, so you hear what they want you to about today's news. Any event that doesn't fit in with their program will be quickly hushed up."

- Abner Whateley, "The Illuminati"
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/humor/illum50.html

[phildee3]

Good point. He did announce it in song clues!



I seem to remember, at the time, that he was responsible for the visual "clues" too - starting with Sgt. Pepper.
It was going to be the last album.
Paul was dead so the Beatles were too.
Then they discovered that Faul could be an effective replacement for a couple more projects. Faul actually turned out to be an inspiration for the new band - briefly.

[helloperator]

Who would have thunk it? 2 pop musical geniuses with the same style....etc etc etc....I think you're all madder than cut snakes all you who believe PM died years ago.

[hw spartan]

damn WTF

beep beep ,beep beep, yeh!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfBBZdE6M48

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QOl91Rxvdy0

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fHaq1PlfJXU

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iHgT1N4biZU&feature=related
wtf

:)

[deckard]

Paul McCartney is not dead, this has to be the worst conspiracy theory ever.

[accuracy]

Paul McCartney is not dead, this has to be the worst conspiracy theory ever.

This excellent thread has proven beyond doubt that Paul McCartney is dead,
and replaced!

Where is your proof?????????????

:rolleyes:

[deckard]

This excellent thread has proven beyond doubt that Paul McCartney is dead,
and replaced!
Where is your proof?????????????
:rolleyes:

Wheres your proof hes dead??
In case you hadnt heard hes been in the news alot lately, because of his messy divorce to his pegleg gold grabbing ex.

[toty1994]

This excellent thread has proven beyond doubt that Paul McCartney is dead,
and replaced!

Where is your proof?????????????

:rolleyes:

I don't really know why I'm bothering as this will be instantly dismissed but...
http://www.paulisnotdead.com/index.php

Like the creators of those PID sites, whoever is responsible for 'PIND' possibly has too much time on his hands. However, I think the analysis therein is pretty compelling.

[father ted]

I don't get it, which is the conspiracy; that he's dead or that he's not dead?:p What difference does it fucking make anyway?

[faulconandsnowjob]

Paul McCartney was most certainly replaced in late 1966. Photos & videos of JPM & his double(s) establish that beyond a reasonable doubt.

What difference does it make? Well, for those not blessed w/ much insight, let me point out a few reasons why it's important.

1) It is a tragedy that a person was (most likely) murdered & replaced.
2) It sheds more light on how TPTB operate. Please refer to my above post on the Illuminati (#531).
3) It reveals how easily the masses can be fooled. The media presents a person as being someone else, & even though they don't look the same, most people accept it.

It blows me away that some people can look at these pictures & think they're the same guy:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g146/lilis456/oohyummy.jpg Paul
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/67y_coat.jpg Faul

I think this quote really gets to the heart of why so many people can't see the replacement:

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
--J. Edgar Hoover

People can't *believe* someone would be replaced, therefore, they can't see it despite the evidence.

[deckard]

Paul McCartney was most certainly replaced in late 1966. Photos & videos of JPM & his double(s) establish that beyond a reasonable doubt.

What difference does it make? Well, for those not blessed w/ much insight, let me point out a few reasons why it's important.

1) It is a tragedy that a person was (most likely) murdered & replaced.
2) It sheds more light on how TPTB operate. Please refer to my above post on the Illuminati.
3) It reveals how easily the masses can be fooled. The media presents a person as being someone else, & even though they don't look the same, most people accept it.

This is nuts, they look exactly the same, people change alot as they get older, but some basic characteristics never do, and you can still see Pauls ones, just as good as forty years ago.

[faulconandsnowjob]

they look exactly the same, people change alot as they get older
No, they do NOT look "exactly" the same. And as for "changing alot (sic) as they get older," those pictures (above) were taken approx. ONE year apart.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/paul_faul_vintage.png

I think this rabbit hole is too deep for some people, & they dismiss it, but that's just an attempt to evade reality.

[truthseeker49]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j178/lilis678/DB1005_BEATLES_6.jpghttp://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j178/lilis678/Faulagain-1.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/paul_mccartney_faux_paul_comparison.jpg

Paul vs Faul, circa 1970's then circa 1980's.

In both comparisons, it's obvious that it's NOT the same man ! Faul's face ( head ) is much longer than Paul's was. In the bottom comparison, Faul's forehead is noticeably larger than Paul's was. These are points that I make over & over again on my forum.

http://only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi

[faulconandsnowjob]

In both comparisons, it's obvious that it's NOT the same man

Yes, it is obvious. Even a pic of Paul that has been stretched doesn't make him look like Faul.

[2013]

somewhereon this forum , i cant find it and on other PID sitews are pictures of paul faul showing the ears , in one they are atached to the head by the lobes , in the other they are loose and dangly ! This 2 me proves he had a stand in at least .Ears dont attach or unattach themselves in that way .Not sure of plastic surgery would alter that though , as in face lifts . Wouldnt of thought so but i am not an expert or even a novice on that subject .Also if it was surgery how can anyone be sure it wasnt to alter his brain to make him comply? lol only joking but you never know lol . :D

[faulconandsnowjob]

Great point about the ears.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Trueclues/Paulunusual.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/paul-looking.jpg

[deckard]

the real reason the beatles broke up..

[toty1994]

Paul McCartney was most certainly replaced in late 1966. Photos & videos of JPM & his double(s) establish that beyond a reasonable doubt.

What difference does it make? Well, for those not blessed w/ much insight, let me point out a few reasons why it's important.

1) It is a tragedy that a person was (most likely) murdered & replaced.
2) It sheds more light on how TPTB operate. Please refer to my above post on the Illuminati (#531).
3) It reveals how easily the masses can be fooled. The media presents a person as being someone else, & even though they don't look the same, most people accept it.

I think this quote really gets to the heart of why so many people can't see the replacement:

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
--J. Edgar Hoover

People can't *believe* someone would be replaced, therefore, they can't see it despite the evidence.

I fully accept the masses can be fooled but I think it is you who's been fooled in this case. What is this insight you have that others on this forum have not been 'blessed' with?

Earlier I posted a link to http://www.paulisnotdead.com/index.php. I don't know whether you looked at it or not but if you have time please read through it - it is very thorough and covers just about everything you have posted as evidence on here. I'd be interested to know why you think the analysis is flawed (asuming you would, that is).

[faulconandsnowjob]

I think it is you who's been fooled in this case.
Yeah, I was fooled for a long time. There were some things that bothered me, such as why Paul suddenly lost his looks, but I never really put it together until I came across a PID link. It was actually pretty shocking & disturbing to realize that I'd been fooled (Fauled) for so long. Oh, well. At least, I can see it now.

What is this insight you have that others on this forum have not been 'blessed' with?
Well, apparently why this matters! Actually, I think there are a lot of people on this forum who can see it & realize why it matters. But just to reiterate, I will summarize my non-exclusive list: personal tragedy, better understanding of how TPTB operate, & better understanding of how people can be tricked.

Earlier I posted a link to http://www.paulisnotdead.com/index.php. I don't know whether you looked at it or not but if you have time please read through it - it is very thorough and covers just about everything you have posted as evidence on here. I'd be interested to know why you think the analysis is flawed (asuming you would, that is).
On the very first page, the author is making an incorrect assumption - that photos cannot be used to establish identity. As I've posted earlier, photos are "records" that capture "immutable characteristics" and are used to establish identity in US courts of law (I would think this would be the same in the UK or elsewhere). So, photos CAN be used to establish Paul & Faul are not the same people.

Then, the author claims that
Paul himself said in a pre 1965 interview that his eyes are hazel. Hazel is defined as a mix of brown and green with hints of gray.
http://www.paulisnotdead.com/blog1.php/Eyes/
I would like to see the cite for this interview. Pictures of Paul show that he had brown eyes. If they *were* hazel, then they were still noticeably darker than Faul's, which were closer to green.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/Kissmekatie/FaulwithGreenEyesa.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Trueclues/PM1973_5aa.jpg

Then the author discusses Paul's hands at http://www.paulisnotdead.com/blog1.php/Hands/. We have previously shown that Paul had much hairier hands than Faul.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/truecolors112/74283326_10.jpg

More of Paul's hairy hands at
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30205&page=63

Faul does not seem to have particularly hairy hands:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/56170243.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/pl_chest.jpg

The feet are also markedly different:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/paul_coconut.jpg (Paul)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/Faulinshorts.jpg (Faul)

[toty1994]

Yeah, I was fooled for a long time. There were some things that bothered me, such as why Paul suddenly lost his looks, but I never really put it together until I came across a PID link. It was actually pretty shocking & disturbing to realize that I'd been fooled (Fauled) for so long. Oh, well. At least, I can see it now.

When I first came across a PID link I was briefly fooled into thinking there might be something in it. At first glance it all looked quite compelling but (having spent more time on PID sites than is strictly healthy) I soon realised that none of the so-called 'evidence' stands up to serious scrutiny. This is why - despite your best efforts - most people (and not just the un-enlightened masses) still regard the whole thing as a joke.


On the very first page, the author is making an incorrect assumption - that photos cannot be used to establish identity. As I've posted earlier, photos are "records" that capture "immutable characteristics" and are used to establish identity in US courts of law (I would think this would be the same in the UK or elsewhere). So, photos CAN be used to establish Paul & Faul are not the same people.

Regardless of your interpretation of the law the photos you keep posting only seem to establish that Paul is Paul. That you cannot understand why people are unable to tell the difference is not evidence.


We have previously shown that Paul had much hairier hands than Faul.

Faul does not seem to have particularly hairy hands

The hands pics are some of your better comparisons. However, you will have noted (well, perhaps not!) that in every other respect the hands are the same - right down to the lines on his palm. As for the hair, which is more likely? 1) he didn't like his hairy hands so he had them waxed (it does happen, you know) or 2) the lack of hair on his hands proves Paul was replaced.

Incredibly, I'm going for scenario 1!





The feet are also markedly different

All I can say is, going by the photos you posted, you can't tell. Are there other pics?


I'm not going to bother with the eyes stuff, I think the analysis on the PIND site is sound and explains why one may come to your conclusion.

[2013]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=366144&postcount=251
heres the link for the earlobes definitely different ears .check it out :D

[faulconandsnowjob]

none of the so-called 'evidence'
Why do people put quotes around "evidence"? Are they insinuating that photos are somehow not evidence? As I've mentioned numerous times, photos ARE evidence.

Regardless of your interpretation of the law
It's not MY interpretation of the law. It's US federal courts' interpretations of the law, namely 5 USCS § 552a(4). These courts interpret the law to say that photos can be used to establish identity:

United States v. Hawes, 523 F.3d 245, 249 (3d Cir. Pa. 2008)
United States v. Mitchell, 518 F.3d 230 (4th Cir. S.C. 2008)
Pierce v. Dep't of the United States Air Force, 512 F.3d 184, 188 (5th Cir. Miss. 2007).

This is why - despite your best efforts - most people (and not just the un-enlightened masses) still regard the whole thing as a joke.
Many people may not know that such a thing as replacing a famous person is even possible. And since they cannot conceive of such a thing, they can't see it when it stares them right in the face. Well, I'm here to tell you that such a thing is possible, it happened, & probably more than once.

the photos you keep posting only seem to establish that Paul is Paul.
Well, that is very interesting, b/c the 2 men do not look alike. I guess it's the power of brain-washing. TPTB tell one they are the same man, & the power of belief keeps one from seeing the difference.

The hands pics are some of your better comparisons. However, you will have noted (well, perhaps not!) that in every other respect the hands are the same - right down to the lines on his palm. As for the hair, which is more likely? 1) he didn't like his hairy hands so he had them waxed (it does happen, you know) or 2) the lack of hair on his hands proves Paul was replaced.

Incredibly, I'm going for scenario 1!
Or maybe Paul started tweezing his hands :-P Yeah, somehow, I don't think so. I'm not a man, but I would wager most men don't care if they have hairy hands. And why would Paul suddenly start caring about hairy hands in late '66 when they weren't going to be touring anymore?

And anyway, the hands are not the same "in every other respect." Faul's hands are longer than Paul's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/piano3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/lapdog.jpg

The feet are also markedly different
All I can say is, going by the photos you posted, you can't tell. Are there other pics?
You can't tell that Faul has much longer feet?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/hide.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/paul_mccartney.jpg

I'm not going to bother with the eyes stuff, I think the analysis on the PIND site is sound and explains why one may come to your conclusion.
Yeah, the eyes are clearly different (Paul's dark brown, Faul's hazel/green)

[toty1994]

Ok, Faulcon - this is clearly going round and round in circles and will no doubt continue to do so as long as the thread keeps going. It all seems to be getting a bit pointless now.

Still, just a couple of things - I can't resist:)

Re your latest hands and feet pics: er...perspective? Though not strictly comparable I'm reminded of one of my favourite lines from Father Ted - "These are SMALL...the ones out there are FAR AWAY".

Re hand hair: how could tptb forget to carry out what must have been one of their easiest tasks - implanting hair into the back of 'Faul's' bald hands? No, despite your incredulity I suggest McCartney's vanity is still behind this particular 'mystery'.

[faulconandsnowjob]

your latest hands and feet pics: er...perspective? Though not strictly comparable I'm reminded of one of my favourite lines from Father Ted - "These are SMALL...the ones out there are FAR AWAY".
Can't you look at the size of the hands & feet in relation to the rest of the body? Can't you see that Paul's were smaller *proportionally* than Faul's?

I agree that it is getting a bit tedious to try to point something out to someone who simply can't or won't see it.

Anyway, I think it is time to move the discussion along from the very basic, entry-level fact that Paul was replaced to how TPTB operate. This apparent replacement program has not received the attention it should, imo. Some background information on the Tavistock Institute, a group that may have been involved w/ the Beatles & other bands:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/beatles_mind_control.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_tavistock03.htm

[karol2020]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=366144&postcount=251
heres the link for the earlobes definitely different ears .check it out :D

this is REALLY a good point to the PID theory.... the lobes of the ears.... if it was the contrary, Faul with the attached lobe, someone could say that paul could have done a plastic cirurgy to diminish it... but at this case, why someone would do a plastic cirurgy to free the ear lobe?

[karol2020]

I don't get it, which is the conspiracy; that he's dead or that he's not dead?:p What difference does it fucking make anyway?

DO you really think this doesn´t make difference? :eek: to know something like this is to wonder what more can have being hidden from us, and opens a lot the possibility of beliving at illuminati, and such things to those who think this is all mad talk and nonsene..... well it really has inportance!

[faulconandsnowjob]

Excellent points, Karol. Here is a pic of Faul wearing what appears to be some sort of ear prosthetic to make it look like Paul's unattached earlobe.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/antiKitano/PDVD_003.jpg

The use of doubles by the Illuminati is one tactic PID can expose.

11. They also replace people with doubles. For many years they recruited look-alikes who would serve their ends. Now they are perfecting cloning technology that will let them replace anybody.

The Illuminati FAQ by Abner Whateley
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/humor/illum50.html

How many doubles have there been? Some claim Hitler & Stalin had doubles. I'm convinced there were at least 2 Lee Harvey Oswalds. Using doubles in intell is pretty common - it's handy b/c one can make an alibi for the other, for ex. Anyway, here's a fairly recent claim made by a prof that Kim Jong Il was replaced by a double.

"N Korea's Kim died in 2003; replaced by lookalike, says Waseda professor"
http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/north-koreas-kim-died-in-2003-and-was-replaced-by-lookalike-says-waseda-profesor

[armoured_amazon]

I have two theories:

1 - Paul is still Paul but in a 12-month period underwent a cosmetic surgical or emotional change that changed his looks a LOT, maybe because of an accident. Emotional trauma can change a person's appearance, in terms of weight loss, gaining wrinkles, general countenance etc.

2 - Paul is dead and Faul is now Paul.

I lean towards the latter. I doubt that the truth will ever come out. If it did, in a really spectacular way, perhaps people would wake up to the fact that reality is not as it seems in the comfortable matrix.

[faulconandsnowjob]

I doubt that the truth will ever come out.
Probably never "officially," but many people on this forum don't accept the "official" truth in a lot of areas, anyway :-)

[armoured_amazon]

Probably never "officially," but many people on this forum don't accept the "official" truth in a lot of areas, anyway :-)

That's right! Still, it would be nice to have an official confirmation and see what a shift that might do to the people.

[karol2020]

I have two theories:

1 - Paul is still Paul but in a 12-month period underwent a cosmetic surgical or emotional change that changed his looks a LOT, maybe because of an accident. Emotional trauma can change a person's appearance, in terms of weight loss, gaining wrinkles, general countenance etc.

2 - Paul is dead and Faul is now Paul.

I lean towards the latter. I doubt that the truth will ever come out. If it did, in a really spectacular way, perhaps people would wake up to the fact that reality is not as it seems in the comfortable matrix.

I agree with you! And I lean toward the latter too... One thing is right and we can agree: he become different after the "supposed" accident at 60´s....

[karol2020]

Excellent points, Karol. Here is a pic of Faul wearing what appears to be some sort of ear prosthetic to make it look like Paul's unattached earlobe.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/antiKitano/PDVD_003.jpg

The use of doubles by the Illuminati is one tactic PID can expose.



How many doubles have there been? Some claim Hitler & Stalin had doubles. I'm convinced there were at least 2 Lee Harvey Oswalds. Using doubles in intell is pretty common - it's handy b/c one can make an alibi for the other, for ex. Anyway, here's a fairly recent claim made by a prof that Kim Jong Il was replaced by a double.

"N Korea's Kim died in 2003; replaced by lookalike, says Waseda professor"
http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/north-koreas-kim-died-in-2003-and-was-replaced-by-lookalike-says-waseda-profesor



Thankx for the link, I will take a look better.... Yeah.. it´s for we wonder how many public people could have doubles... wath about bush? him i don´t doubt anything....stewart swerdlow have said he has more than one...

[horus13]

you're making these assumptions on photographs which are never the same twice. if you took a photograph in laboratory conditions of yourself one minute, then took another the next minute you'd notice some anomalies. never mind using photographs from:

different cameras
different angles
different settings
different lighting
different dates

plus is it not inconcievable that paul mccartney has undergone plastic surgery himself over the years? this will certainly explain the nose and the ear shape (face lift anyone?). plus he probably had electralasis on his hairy hands. and as for his feet being bigger it's because they're pointing towards the camera.

a bit of REAL research wouldn't go a miss. you cranks.

[horus13]

you'd probably like this guy :http://doppels.proboards99.com/

all his "research" is done using photographs too. i know some of the people he thinks have been replaced and they were born, went to school, worked jobs, got famous etc... and they're still the essentially and biologically the same people, with the same family etc. but they have changed/aged over the years like we all do. gimme a break.

[faulconandsnowjob]

I really don't know how many times I have to say that photographs are evidence & can be used to establish identity b/c they capture "immutable characteristics." (See 5 USCS § 552a(4); United States v. Hawes, 523 F.3d 245, 249 (3d Cir. Pa. 2008);; United States v. Mitchell, 518 F.3d 230 (4th Cir. S.C. 2008); Pierce v. Dep't of the United States Air Force, 512 F.3d 184, 188 (5th Cir. Miss. 2007).). Anyway, the pictures show there is at least one double for Paul. I think it is unreasonable to keep insisting otherwise at this point. I mean, if you think these guys look the same, then all I can say is maybe it's due to not having a good eye for detail, or maybe the power of your beliefs is preventing you from seeing the difference.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb203/morffin42/Paul-Faul-OrigAspect.gif

I think this is an interesting line of inquiry, as TPTB have been able to pull the wool over people's eyes.

"What people believe prevails over the truth."
- SOPHOCLES, The Sons of Aleus

"The discovery of truth is prevented more effectively, ... by preconceived opinion, by prejudice."
- ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER, Parerga and Paralipomena

[2013]

Excellent points, Karol. Here is a pic of Faul wearing what appears to be some sort of ear prosthetic to make it look like Paul's unattached earlobe.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/antiKitano/PDVD_003.jpg

The use of doubles by the Illuminati is one tactic PID can expose.



How many doubles have there been? Some claim Hitler & Stalin had doubles. I'm convinced there were at least 2 Lee Harvey Oswalds. Using doubles in intell is pretty common - it's handy b/c one can make an alibi for the other, for ex. Anyway, here's a fairly recent claim made by a prof that Kim Jong Il was replaced by a double.

"N Korea's Kim died in 2003; replaced by lookalike, says Waseda professor"
http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/north-koreas-kim-died-in-2003-and-was-replaced-by-lookalike-says-waseda-profesor

Churchill had at least one double during the war but it was the war with people trying to kill him in theory at least .Saddam had doubles and the man hung was a lot different to the Saddam who ruled Iraq on picture evidence . The jaw shape and the fact he had an under bite rather than an over bite .Saddam had perfect teeth as well as Iraq has one of the best dental services in the world according to one site i read .The under bite is impossible to hide plus the hung Saddam had very crooked teeth as well .I dont think they could of been altered as he had the money and means to change his appearance in part but then why would he still retain much of the same look .Pope Paul the 6th is another one who was supposedly replaced , judging by the photos it certainly seems so .Link here shows pics .
http://www.tldm.org/news3/impostor.htm
Lisa Marie Presley is another . There are lots out there some more convincing than others . Talking of replacing people and the Presley name did anyone see Bubba Hotep movie where Elvis was replaced and JFK was turned into a black man who Elvis met and teamed up with while in hospital ? Good movie starring Bruce Campbell, check it out . :D

[faulconandsnowjob]

Interesting. Here is a link a friend sent about Hitler's double:

The World was Lied to about Hitler's Death
http://www.blackraiser.com/nredoubt/identity.htm

[karol2020]

you're making these assumptions on photographs which are never the same twice. if you took a photograph in laboratory conditions of yourself one minute, then took another the next minute you'd notice some anomalies. never mind using photographs from:

different cameras
different angles
different settings
different lighting
different dates

plus is it not inconcievable that paul mccartney has undergone plastic surgery himself over the years? this will certainly explain the nose and the ear shape (face lift anyone?). plus he probably had electralasis on his hairy hands. and as for his feet being bigger it's because they're pointing towards the camera.

a bit of REAL research wouldn't go a miss. you cranks.

Yes, certanly all these aspects you cite (different angles, cameras... whatever...) affect the photos, and make the subject of it look a bit or sometimes much different... BUT EVEN WITH THESE "ANOMALIES"- as you are calling them- we can look at some photos, and compare proportions of some body parts and unchangeble features...... and we can suspect that something can be "wrong".... moreover if this happen with a lot of photos, not only one or two.....

[faulconandsnowjob]

"unchangeble features" = "immutable characteristics" - & photos will definitely capture them!

I think it's kind of funny to what lengths people will rationalize to stay in their comfort zones:

different cameras
different angles
different settings
different lighting
different dates

Many of the pics are from the same angle - that's the point.
Many of the pics are w/ the same lighting.
Different dates - someone should not change their appearance drastically in ONE year, which is what happened w/ Paul from 1966-67.

And how would any of these things change the distance between the eyes, the shape of the nose, or any of the other differences that are readily apparent?

plus is it not inconcievable (sic) that paul mccartney has undergone plastic surgery himself over the years?
Ok, Paul could have had plastic surgery in '66, but why? To make himself less attractive? He was already god-like gorgeous, so why would he do that? Yeah, I didn't think he would.

this will certainly explain the nose and the ear shape (face lift anyone?).
Oh, interesting, so you agree that the nose & ears are shaped differently. Well, at least that's something.

plus he probably had electralasis (sic) on his hairy hands.
Yeah, that must be it. Or he tweezed. Whatever.

and as for his feet being bigger it's because they're pointing towards the camera.
OMG, look at the *proportions.*

a bit of REAL research wouldn't go a miss. you cranks.
Yeah, why don't you try that?

[2013]

The plastic surgery is always an option and men being vain especially back then wouldn't want it broadcast too much .But I'm sure it was said that the earlobes being attached t othe head would never become unattached , would need to look into surgical procedures more to see if a face lift ? (why he would need one at such an early age ?)would mean the ear lobes had to be cut loose , i know scars do end up behind the ears .As for the eyes if they are further apart ? later on then a pretty drastic face lift would be needed to pull the skin so far back as to move the eyes would be in order !! lol .Paul McCartney could solve the question once and for all by saying we used doubles in those days to give us time off from grueling schedule etc . Then we thought it a Beatles in joke when stoned to play up on it with the Paul's dead rumor , of course not saying anything just adds to the mystique , theres no such thing as bad publicity :D

[faulconandsnowjob]

I realize these pictures will not meet the *exact* specifications required by some people w/ respect to cameras, angle, lighting, setting, etc, but I think they make my point that Paul & Faul are not the same person.

http://www.jamespaulmccartney.org/album64/album/Album_A/paperbackwritera1.jpg Paul circa 1966

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/faulia.jpg Faul circa 1967

http://www.jamespaulmccartney.org/album64/album/Album_A/paperbackwritera6.jpg Paul circa 1966

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/67y_coat.jpg
Faul circa 1967

And please note that they are photos from 1966-67 - one year apart. I hope the mustache doesn't make things too complicated & throw people off (that was probably its intended purpose.)

[onourwayto2012]

well like all 'official' stories there is a one in a 47 trillion chance that everything happened just like that at precisely the right time....paul waxed his hands, had ear surgery, jaw surgery, foot surgery...had rolfing to make him taller....decided to try swapping dominant hands...decided to try some innovative contacts...or had eye surgery....all in a year or two...blah blah blah.... yeah I'm sure that's what happened.

[toty1994]

well like all 'official' stories there is a one in a 47 trillion chance that everything happened just like that at precisely the right time....paul waxed his hands, had ear surgery, jaw surgery, foot surgery...had rolfing to make him taller....decided to try swapping dominant hands...decided to try some innovative contacts...or had eye surgery....all in a year or two...blah blah blah.... yeah I'm sure that's what happened.

There is no 'official' story because it doesn't really warrant one. There are contemparaneous statements of bemused denial from McCartney, Lennon and other insiders - but that's it. Fred LaBour (who started it all) admitted himself he 'made it up'. This creaky tale has had a tiny revival via the internet but if the proofs offered on here are anything to go by - tiny it will remain.

[phildee3]

Fred LaBour (who started it all) admitted himself he 'made it up'.



Fred LaBour may have been the first to put it out in the American media (Oct. 14 1969 - Michigan Daily) but Sargeant Pepper was released in the UK June 1st. 1967.
I queued outside my local record shop that morning from 4.00 am to be sure of a copy. The rumour started within days.

[clint web]

http://doppels.proboards99.com/

Now this site is really worth a look at if you want cheering up.

According to that forum, just about every celebrity, actor and musician in the world is a lookalike.

[karol2020]

Hi people, I was thinking.... we could post some videos here of before and after 67, which we can compare them as we are doing with photos; but with videos i think it´s even better, cause it´s more accurate.... wath do you think?

sorry for english mistakes, it´s not my first language....

[howie]

Yesterday - 30 June 1966

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCjaiXmUb0

Penny Lane - filmed December 1966 - 30 January 1967

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YHBKAyn17vw

[faulconandsnowjob]

bemused denial from McCartney
Er, rather somebody *claiming* to be McCartney (of course, he wasn't). Do you believe everything you see on the mainstream media? This guy doesn't look anything like Paul.

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/11bAPZL_bys/default.jpg

Fred LaBour (who started it all)
He did not "start it all." There were whispers in England in 1967 that Paul had died in a car crash. Russ Gibb in Detroit got a call on his radio show in 1969 from a "Tom" saying that Paul had died, & that Russ should start checking for backwards lyrics & other clues. Fred LaBour heard that program, checked into some of the clues, & wrote an article for the school paper about it.

So, yeah, next time, try doing a little research.

[Fred LaBou] admitted himself he 'made it up'.
Probably true that he made it up, but not that Paul is dead & was replaced. LaBour said Paul died in a car crash, but I don't believe that for one instant. If it had been a simple car crash, then the Truth would have come out by now. Nope, Paul was probably murdered & the car crash staged. There are several levels of disinfo going on:
1) Paul is alive & is the present "Paul McCartney"
2) Paul was replaced, but is still alive, but has retired from public life, is working behind the scenes, whatever
3) Paul is dead, but he died in a simple car crash
4) Paul is dead, & he was murdered by KKK, gangsters, robbers, etc
5) Paul is dead, & he was murdered by TPTB for not going along w/ some sort of agenda (most likely scenario, imo)

Paul in 1964 - David Frost Interview
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/tNYVxqJ83W8/default.jpg

Faul/Bill in 1967 - LSD interview
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/rC4lumYPQD8/default.jpg

[toty1994]

Er, rather somebody *claiming* to be McCartney (of course, he wasn't). Do you believe everything you see on the mainstream media? This guy doesn't look anything like Paul.

You continue to state your opinion as if it is fact, can you not see the problem with this? I don't believe everything I see in the mainstram media but have even less reason to believe you.



Probably true that he made it up, but not that Paul is dead & was replaced. LaBour said Paul died in a car crash, but I don't believe that for one instant. If it had been a simple car crash, then the Truth would have come out by now. Nope, Paul was probably murdered & the car crash staged. There are several levels of disinfo going on:
1) Paul is alive & is the present "Paul McCartney"
2) Paul was replaced, but is still alive, but has retired from public life, is working behind the scenes, whatever
3) Paul is dead, but he died in a simple car crash
4) Paul is dead, & he was murdered by KKK, gangsters, robbers, etc
5) Paul is dead, & he was murdered by TPTB for not going along w/ some sort of agenda (most likely scenario, imo)

No.1 is almost certainly correct.

[faulconandsnowjob]

You continue to state your opinion as if it is fact, can you not see the problem with this? I don't believe everything I see in the mainstram media but have even less reason to believe you.

It is a fact that Paul was replaced. The other guy doesn't look like him, ergo, it must be another guy. I'm not asking you to "believe" me. I've presented tons of pics & videos to support my position. I suppose you just aren't able to see it. You are really good at bogging the discussion down, though.

No.1 is almost certainly correct.
Wow, you got stopped at 1? Dig deeper.

[graflok]

No.1 is almost certainly correct.

Almost. ;)

[toty1994]

[QUOTE=faulconandsnowjob;589538]It is a fact that Paul was replaced. The other guy doesn't look like him, ergo, it must be another guy.

You did it again!!:eek:

[toty1994]

Almost. ;)

Yes. No-one can be certain of anything, can they?

[faulconandsnowjob]

I don't believe everything I see in the mainstram media but have even less reason to believe you.
Ok, what's my agenda in all of this? Am I spending so much time on something for a lark? No, I'm here b/c I want to spread the Truth about Paul & shed light on how TPTB operate. So what could TPTB agenda be? As I'm sure you are aware, the Beatles were very influential & vastly wealthy. Don't you think *maybe* TPTB would have some interest in tapping into that (assuming TPTB didn't create the Beatles in the 1st place) for their own purposes? And what could those purposes be? Maybe they wanted to push a drug agenda - see Tavistock Institute?

You did it again!!
As I've mentioned numerous times, photos can be used to establish identity. Since Faul/Bill is not the same person as Paul, it is a fact that Paul was replaced.

[graflok]

Yes. No-one can be certain of anything, can they?

Are you certain of that?

[toty1994]

As I've mentioned numerous times, photos can be used to establish identity. Since Faul/Bill is not the same person as Paul, it is a fact that Paul was replaced.

...and again!!!

see Tavistock Institute?

Fair enough, I have only sketchy knowledge re Tavistock - will have a look.

Are you certain of that?
Touche:D

[faulconandsnowjob]

see Tavistock Institute?
Fair enough, I have only sketchy knowledge re Tavistock - will have a look.
Great! Then maybe the discussion can progress from Paul was replaced - no, he wasn't - yes, he was, ad infinitum :-P

[karol2020]

It is a fact that Paul was replaced. The other guy doesn't look like him, ergo, it must be another guy.


ok. So The fact is that the "other guy"- after 1967- doesn´t look like paul from before 1967. THIS IS THE FACT. But him could still be paul, that changed his looks, due to drugs or whatever as someone said before.....

so faulconandsnowjob, a question for you, how can you state with so much certanly that he was replaced? have you heard and compare his music, songs, voice, to compare too? cause we have too agree, that imitate the look and appaerence is much easier than imitate the voice, way of talk and sing....

i think is this that toty1994 is argueing with you, that you say something with so sure, but can you be really sure about this?

[analog matrix dweller]

I do like this thread and can see why you are so passionate on the subject - for me its his teeth and wonky eyes - they are just too similar in the fotos for them to belong to 2 seperate people.

i just think he went for being a young man to a regular man ! i see it in myself - over time i wonder when i changed , i dont see it other than in photos

p.s mother natures son is one of my fave songs ever !

[faulconandsnowjob]

so faulconandsnowjob, a question for you, how can you state with so much certanly that he was replaced? have you heard and compare his music, songs, voice, to compare too? cause we have too agree, that imitate the look and appaerence is much easier than imitate the voice, way of talk and sing....

i think is this that toty1994 is argueing with you, that you say something with so sure, but can you be really sure about this?

I am certain Paul was replaced from comparing photos & videos. The faces, eyes, noses, foreheads, chins, body hair, height, teeth, ears, etc, don't match. Photos are records that capture "immutable characteristics" that can be used to establish identity. Since the photos show different "immutable characteristics," they must be different people.

I have heard & compared his voice, as have others. For ex:

Dr. Henry M. Truby of the University of Miami used samples from three Beatles songs sung by Paul McCartney ("Yesterday," "Penny Lane," and "Hey Jude") and produced three very different sonagrams. Does that mean that there were three McCartneys? "I'm not prepared to say that this is the final word," Truby told Rolling Stone Magazine, "but it's a beginning." (Reeve, Andru J., Turn Me On, Dead Man: The Complete Story of the Paul McCartney Death Hoax, Ann Arbor: Popular Culture, Ink, 1994: 69)

For me, a great comparison song is the White Album "I Will" compared to the Anthology "I Will." The Anthology version has much more vibrato than the White Album version. I believe it's Paul's voice on the Anthology.

Anthology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V8eyCRQ6hQ

White Album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhejWLNxvw

Videos:

Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTb3uifuKDc

Faul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXG83p2nkHw

In addition, there was a very interesting case of a woman in Germany claiming to be Paul's daughter. She accused "Paul" of sending an imposter to give blood to the court, b/c the guy in the file didn't look like Paul. Here is some info on her:

http://invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=TAR&action=display&thread=4958

[faulconandsnowjob]

Video about Tavistock Institute - unfortunately not about the drug agenda & rock n' roll connection, but still good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oormlLCVQKA&feature=email

[accuracy]

I do like this thread and can see why you are so passionate on the subject - for me its his teeth and wonky eyes - they are just too similar in the fotos for them to belong to 2 seperate people.

i just think he went for being a young man to a regular man ! i see it in myself - over time i wonder when i changed , i dont see it other than in photos

p.s mother natures son is one of my fave songs ever !

:rolleyes:

You obviously need to update you're prescription glasses........:D:D

[faulconandsnowjob]

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/deeperinsightsbook.shtml

Fritz Springmeier/Cisco Wheeler

Page 312 ...

C5. Doubles (look alikes). There is an ongoing program to find look alikes for prominent people, as well as a program to create secret identical twins (which are separated at birth and never see each other). George Bush’s double was promiscuous, while George Bush is a pedophile. His double was living in France after Bush was no longer President. By the use of doubles, (or one of the synthetics or organic robotoids) the elite are able to sneak away and perform satanic rituals. On certain occasions, if Clinton or Bush only needed to do low level tasks in front of the public, they could have their double substitute for them. The Illuminati working with several organizations has had a look alike operation where doubles of certain key people are found and then used. In the book Desert Shield and The New World Order pub. by Northpoint Tactical Teams, Topton, NC, if you look on page 32 you will see a picture of the original FDR who had a mole over his eyes and then you will a see a picture of the double of Roosevelt who they used, who had no mole and had different ear lobes. Roosevelt may have died prior to when it was actually announced. Over the years I have seen numerous photos exposing either the Robotoids or the doubles that they use. This author’s previous S' ’93 article had some pictures about the dead Pope Paul VI, who my Be Wise As Serpents book said was murdered. This recent Pope was replaced with a double who had had plastic surgery. As a double gets older the plastic surgery will not look as convincing, because time changes people differently. One ex-Catholic said the whole thing sounded like science fiction. It does sound far out at first, but the evidence is there for people to see. For myself, the ex-Illuminati have told me about the double’s program. From what I understand the double or look-alike program has been more successful than the robotoids and synthetics. The reason is that people live longer and are more dependable in some ways. The project to find look alikes for prominent people has been very successful. Plastic surgery has also been done to help touch up the doubles.

[analog matrix dweller]

its a heck of a leap to believe that lot , im still very much on the fence with the whole 'replacment' thing , world leaders et al will have doubles , but organic robotoids ?

I would love some proof, i really would , but i guess if it does exsist , people like us wont ever get to see it.

[graflok]

I like this quote from the Springmeier reference linked above:

This author frequently reflects on the words of the Illuminati Grand Master who
told Cisco, who was then a child, while touring a cloning facility, "Never, never
think you are seeing who you think you are seeing."

[faulconandsnowjob]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_decoy

A political decoy is a person employed to impersonate a politician, in order to draw attention away from the real person or to take risks on their behalf. This can also apply to military figures, or civilians impersonated for political/espionage purposes.

The political decoy is an individual who has been selected because of their strong physical resemblance to the person they are impersonating. This resemblance can be strengthened by plastic surgery. Often, such decoys are trained to speak and behave like their 'target'.
***
Decoying: theory and practice

The practice of decoying is essentially little different from the profession of celebrity lookalike, in which people mimic famous entertainers whom they resemble. The only difference is that the 'lookalike' presents an acknowledged artifice. The decoy must conceal his or her imposture from the 'audience'.

There is little research available on the probabilities and other factors involved in finding a physical 'double' for any given person; however, there are only so many permutations of the human physiognomy and the growth in the field of professional 'lookalikes' suggests that the odds against finding a 'double' might not be as high as they are popularly imagined to be.

In 2001, Poland hosted the first-ever doppelganger convention, to which lookalikes from across the country turned up, offering the unlikely spectacle of Stalin hobnobbing with Elizabeth Taylor. Nearly all the doppelgangers at the event had complemented their resemblance to a famous person by costume [1].

Indeed, the justly-famous incident in which Charlie Chaplin - at the height of his fame - failed to get through to the final selection in a 'Charlie Chaplin Lookalike' contest[2] suggests that preconceptions by observers can be just as important as any physical resemblance when it comes to impersonation.

However, there is a grey area in the 'lookalike' trade. Some 'lookalikes' actually stop mimicking their targets and start pretending to be them.
***
But if the lookalike is a double for a political or other official figure, the results could be far more important. Professional Lookalikes who bear an exceptional resemblance to high profile individuals, include Prince William's lookalike Matthew Turpin [4].

The potential strategic uses of such impersonators are immediately apparent and have been made use of many times throughout history.

If the political decoy bears an overwhelming resemblance to their target and has been thoroughly trained, such impersonation can be almost impossible to detect, even at close range, without recourse to forensic science.
***

[2013]

In response to your last post concerning prince williams lookalike , i googled this .
http://www.toplookalikes.co.uk/prince%20-%20william%20-%20look%20alike.htm
Matthew Turpin

IN

Memoriam

The world and our industry has tragically lost a wonderful and talented young man.

Matthew recently passed away in his sleep. I personally worked with this fine man and held him in the highest respect for his professionalism and kindness. There is little that can be said but, I want to express my deepest sympathy to his friends and family for their loss.

He will be missed.

If true then tragic for his family , but it must make you think ?:D

[2013]

http://www.fakefaces.co.uk/lookalikes.html?lookalike_id=477
more lookalike info
Profile:
Check out Neil as Liverpool's most famous singer Paul McCartney! Neil comes from Merseyside so not only does he look like Macca but he sounds like him too. As you can see from the photo's, he is a quality lookalike. Neil recently stood in for Paul McCartney on his latest video and last year was asked to make an appearance as Sir Paul McCartney at an event when paul was taken away on unannounced business and couldn't attend himself. Why not have Neil at your event to meet n greet and mix n mingle amongst your guests.

some good lookalikes o nthere particularly john lennon and george harrison :D

[1971]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7711327.stm


Sir Paul McCartney is to be honoured with a specially-created Ultimate Legend award at the MTV Europe Music Awards in his home city of Liverpool.

The former Beatle is not expected to play at Thursday night's show but will pick up his prize in person, MTV said.

It said the award was created to honour "one of the most formative influences on the music scene on a global scale".

Take That and Beyonce are among artists performing at the event, which will be hosted by US singer Katy Perry

The event's executive producer, Richard Godfrey, said it was fitting that the 15th anniversary of the awards would see MTV saluting Sir Paul "in his home town".

"Sir Paul's dedication to sharing his experience and nurturing the next generation of talented artists is remarkable," he added.

MTV Networks International chairman Bill Roedy hailed Sir Paul as "one of the true greats".

"Not only has he has been one of the most formative influences on the music scene on a global scale, but he is one of the founding fathers that has earned Liverpool the recent accolade as most musical city in the UK."

[lewi]

I Dont see the point in knowing that you have already won an award even if it is a specially-created Ultimate Legend award being picked up at the MTV Europe Music Awards.

Well they had to do something short of paying him to get him to show up i doupt he wasnt even going untill they offered to do it for him.

Is he dead tho ? is it a reptile or an actor lookalike ? one things for sure his family should know the truth!

[amandaooo]

Here is paul doing the 666 sign - known to sleeple (hey I just made that term up!!!) as ok sign If you look at it however it has three sixes:-

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/lennon_satan.jpg

[humito]

hiya........ dont really see the connection to paul being dead.......john lennon is giving the deaf sign for love......as his thumb is visible and not holding the 2 middle fingers and as for macca the ok signal is pretty universal except perhaps in Turkey where it means homosexual......never heard of it used to mean satan lol.............however i do think paul uses the occult for his own agenda,like many do. :rolleyes:

[faulconandsnowjob]

The Macca look-alike at http://www.fakefaces.co.uk/lookalikes.html?lookalike_id=477 looks just like Faul! That's ironic - impersonating an impersonator :-P

http://www.fakefaces.co.uk/images/lookalikes/477-907.jpghttp://www.wwnorton.com/mccartney/images/paul1.jpg

Pity, b/c Paul was so much hotter! :-P

Is he dead tho ? is it a reptile or an actor lookalike ? one things for sure his family should know the truth!
Lewl, I don't think there is really any way to know for sure what Paul's ultimate fate was. There is a lot of speculation, & I personally believe he died in 1966. There is also a lot of speculation about Bill/Faul, w/ some people believing he was selected from the ranks of the intelligence community, but he may have been a relative of Paul, or who knows? There may also have been several "Pauls." I suppose it's possible he was a Reptilian... :-)

Here are some pics of what I believe to be different Paul impersonators.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/paulringoear.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/faulia.jpg Paul/Faul 1?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/paul_faul.jpg Paul/Faul 2?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/sbscomparison28zr.gif Paul/Faul 2?

[humito]

i suppose the only other interpretation could be paul is showing a masonic symbol for the 3 pillars.......i think he does have masonic links,i find it unlikely though considering johns love sign.

[clint web]

Here are some pics of what I believe to be different Paul impersonators.


Ahhhhhh, there's more than one. Your argument grows stronger day by day.

:rolleyes:

[humito]

yes one wonders why faulcon doesnt take Mr mc Cartney to court for being an imposter,with all the mountains of convincing evidence he will have no problem forcing a dna test and getting ' Bill' put away!
If it is actually true arguing ,the toss on a David Ike forum is not going to get anything done about it is it?:rolleyes:

[humito]

Here is paul doing the 666 sign - known to sleeple (hey I just made that term up!!!) as ok sign If you look at it however it has three sixes:-

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/lennon_satan.jpg

just looking at this funny pic again.......was wondering if ringo has a goiter or there was somebody lurking behind him(dark shapeon left of neck).........probably satan lol

[faulconandsnowjob]

yes one wonders why faulcon doesnt take Mr mc Cartney to court for being an imposter,with all the mountains of convincing evidence [she] will have no problem forcing a dna test and getting ' Bill' put away!

Well, unfortunately, I do not have a cause of action. Any injury I have suffered is a generalized injury suffered by everyone who has, perhaps, bought a CD from Faul thinking he was the real JPM. The only person that I'm aware of who got close to being able to claim fraud was Bettina Krischbin, who claims to be JPM's daughter. Anyway, she claims that Paul sent an imposter in the '80's to give blood to the court for a paternity test. Unfortunately, the Germans threw out her claim b/c of the statute of limitations (SOL) on fraud. However, her claim was for maintenance/paternity, so the fraud should have stayed the SOL. Normally, committing fraud doesn't get one off the hook. More info here:

http://invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=TAR&action=display&thread=4958

And even if I had a COA, a concrete & personalized injury, etc, it wouldn't be worth going to court over. No, I prefer trying this case in the court of public opinion :-P

[humito]

British court jails 007 imposter
Posted Sun Nov 2, 2008 7:46am AEDT

A man who carried out a double life as a would-be James Bond, calling himself Commander Newitt and carrying a replica Glock 9mm pistol, was jailed for two years by a British court.

As well as playing at being the fictional secret agent, Michael Newitt pretended to be a policeman, fitted his car with a siren and blue strobe lights and went so far as to arrest a suspected drunk driver.

He had the letters CMG - an award fictitiously presented to Bond in Ian Fleming's From Russia with Love - printed after his name.

Even his wife believed him when he said he was to conduct "special missions," the Press Association news agency reported.

"He's a con man and a fantasist who's styled himself as a James Bond character. His life has been a spectacular illusion," prosecutor Adrian Harris told Leicester Crown Court.

Newitt, 41, who lives near Loughborough in central England, was finally exposed when a policeman became suspicious of his Commander title.

Defence lawyer Gary Short said Newitt had low self-esteem and sought respect by adopting a false personality.
If they can take him to court you will have no problem;)

[faulconandsnowjob]

If they can take him to court you will have no problem
Actually, that's not true. That is the difference between civil & criminal law. The prosecutor in the above case decided to charge Mr. Newitt for impersonating James Bond. I'm not very hopeful that a prosecutor would be willing to charge Faul w/ ID theft & impersonating JPM. It would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. If a private person wanted to claim fraud on the civil side, they would have to have a COA against Faul.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Sir Paul McCartney has collected his Ultimate Legend Award from fellow legend Bono at the MTV Europe Music Awards 2008.

Presenting the prize U2-man Bono introduced Macca saying "You call him Sir, I call him Lord, Saint Paul McCartney!"

See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1083807/Maccas-pride-Liverpool-walks-away-British-winner-MTV-Awards.html

St. Paul - Terry Knight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K8D2v3S9N0

Little video about Bettina Krischbin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cs5UIDjuo8

[karol2020]

The Macca look-alike at http://www.fakefaces.co.uk/lookalikes.html?lookalike_id=477 looks just like Faul! That's ironic - impersonating an impersonator :-P

http://www.fakefaces.co.uk/images/lookalikes/477-907.jpghttp://www.wwnorton.com/mccartney/images/paul1.jpg

Pity, b/c Paul was so much hotter! :-P


Lewl, I don't think there is really any way to know for sure what Paul's ultimate fate was. There is a lot of speculation, & I personally believe he died in 1966. There is also a lot of speculation about Bill/Faul, w/ some people believing he was selected from the ranks of the intelligence community, but he may have been a relative of Paul, or who knows? There may also have been several "Pauls." I suppose it's possible he was a Reptilian... :-)

Here are some pics of what I believe to be different Paul impersonators.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/paulringoear.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/faulia.jpg Paul/Faul 1?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/paul_faul.jpg Paul/Faul 2?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/sbscomparison28zr.gif Paul/Faul 2?

the last two photos are not good comparison.... they are showing facial expressions too different, almost the opposts... :( so not a good comparison... the others two are ok...

[faulconandsnowjob]

Here are some more pics of Faul (none are Paul).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/paul68.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/69chain2.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j178/lilis678/Faulagain-1.jpg
http://www.wwnorton.com/mccartney/images/paul1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/Cavern61/Bill1.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/DR1020_Paul_McCARTNEY_6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/faulia.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/pid_on_magazine_p6aaa.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/67y_coat.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/malevans08.jpg

[faulconandsnowjob]

So, the story goes (if I remember correctly from "Turn Me On, Dead Man" by Andru J. Reeves) that Terry Knight went to talk to Apple about doing a record in 1969. When he came back, he wrote "St. Paul," which came out before the PID rumors started in USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K8D2v3S9N0

The lyrics as I hear them.

I looked into the sky
Everything was high
Higher than it seemed to be to me
Standing by the sea
Thinking I was free
Did I hear you call or was I dreaming then, St. Paul?

You knew it all along
Something had gone wrong
They couldn't hear your song of sadness in the air
While they were crying out, "beware"
Your flowers & long hair
While you & Sgt. Pepper saw the writing on the wall

You say you want to live your life to the future
They say they've got dues to pay today
You say it's the fool who plays it cool, Sir
And if tomorrow comes, you know, they'll all hear St. Paul say:
Let me take you down

You have a different view
Hey there, Paul, what's new?
Did Judas really talk to you
or did you put us on?
I think there's something wrong
It's taking you too long
To change the world
so Sir Isaac Newton said it had to fall
Hey St. Paul!

You say you want to live your life to the future
They say they've got dues to pay today
You say it's the fool who plays it cool, Sir
And if tomorrow comes, you know, they'll all hear St Paul say:
I read the news today, oh boy.

You had a different view
Hey there, Paul, what's new?
Did Judas talk to you
or did you put the whole world on?
I think there's something wrong
It's taking you too long to change the world
so Sir Isaac Newton told you it would fall

You didn't listen, St. Paul!

[graflok]

Is this Paul or Faul in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLJMSbEnn0

And, what's going on with his teeth at 0:48?
http://i34.tinypic.com/293x94p.jpg

[faulconandsnowjob]

It's Paul in the Rain/Paperback Writer videos. He got in a moped accident & chipped a tooth :-) Pic of Paul after the accident (seems to have been prior to May/66):

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4396/accident.jpg

The consensus among the PID/PWR crowd is that Paul was replaced somewhere between Sept-Nov 1966. I believe this video from late 1966 is our first introduction to Faul at 2:02:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11bAPZL_bys

It seems like it might be this guy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/malevans08.jpg

[lostworld]

Hi Faulcon,
I made it!

Just dropping by to see how you´re doing here...

Great job, looks good.

Will post here as soon as I can.

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Yay! :)

[graflok]

It's Paul in the Rain/Paperback Writer videos. He got in a moped accident & chipped a tooth :-) Pic of Paul after the accident (seems to have been prior to May/66):

OK, thanks. :)

[faulconandsnowjob]

LSD & Mind Control

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxlGjoZ0eE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW_MGgh0DB4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrRpEWBlIQ&feature=related

^ How rock n' roll was used to spread LSD to the masses (John Lennon specifically named).

[faulconandsnowjob]

Mind Control: America's Secret War
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2927316845773056069

The Most Dangerous Game (MK ULTRA)
http://gnn.tv/videos/3/The_Most_Dangerous_Game

[faulconandsnowjob]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/blueeyes3.jpg

Paul & Bizarro Paul :P

[sunsoflight]

Sixty-three pages of posts in this thread. It will take a while to catch up.

Faulcon and others, here is Swerdlow's 145 minute talk on Google video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1243402004150073691

In two parts here:

http://www.whale.to/b/swerdlow.html

[faulconandsnowjob]

Sixty-three pages of posts in this thread. It will take a while to catch up.
There will be a quiz at the end - lol :-P

Thanks for the link to info about the Tavistock Institute, btw.

TAVISTOCK - THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN AMERICA
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwotavistockbestkeptsecret.shtml

"All Tavistock and American foundation techniques have a single goal---to break down the psychological strength of the individual and render him helpless to oppose the dictators of the World Order. Any technique which helps to break down the family unit, and family inculcated principles of religion, honor, patriotism and sexual behavior, is used by the Tavistock scientists as weapons of crowd control."
...
"A single common denominator identifies the common Tavistock strategy---the use of drugs. The infamous MK Ultra program of the CIA, in which unsuspecting CIA officials were given LSD, and their reaction studied like "guinea pigs", resulted in several deaths."
...
"The program originated when Sandoz AG, a Swiss drug firm, owned by S.G. Warburg Co. of London, developed Lysergic Acid [LSD]. Roosevelt's advisor, James Paul Warburg, son of Paul Warburg who wrote the Federal Reserve Act, and nephew of Max Warburg who had financed Hitler, set up the <http://watch.pair.com/FreedomHouse.html#ips>Institute for Policy Studies to promote the drug. The result was the LSD "counter-culture" of the 1960s, the "student revolution", which was financed by $25 million from the CIA."

[accuracy]

Come on everyone, if you like this thread, PLEASE click on the "rating star"

Thanks:D

[armoured_amazon]

Okay. :)

[phildee3]

Come on everyone, if you like this thread, PLEASE click on the "rating star"

Thanks:D



...and if you don't like this thread, PLEASE click on the "rating star."

That way we will get a more accurate data set.

However, it will still be biased because there are, obviously, more people here who like it than don't.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Done - 5 stars. Love it :-) Quelle surprise, n'est ce pas? :-)

[accuracy]

Done - 5 stars. Love it :-) Quelle surprise, n'est ce pas? :-)


Hmmmmm it's still 3 stars.

[accuracy]

I guess this thread will be moved soon. Tsk tsk tsk!

[faulconandsnowjob]

Something interesting re: Mal Evans, Beatles' roadie:

"...Brian Epstein later hired him as [the Beatles] road manager in 1963. Evans contributed to many recordings, and appeared in some of the films they made. The Beatles stopped touring in 1966, but Evans carried on assisting the band and working with them in the studio...

"Evans was shot and killed by the police on 5 January 1976, in his rented duplex at 8122 W. 4th Street in Los Angeles.[50] The officers mistakenly believed that the air pistol Evans was holding was a rifle. Before his death Evans was working on a book of memoirs called Living The Beatles' Legend, which he was supposed to deliver to publishers Grosset and Dunlap on 12 January 1976...

"...On the night of Evans' death he was so despondent that Fran Hughes phoned his collaborator on his book, John Hoernie, and asked him to visit them. Hoernie saw Evans "really doped-up and groggy", and Evans told Hoernie to make sure that he finished Living The Beatles' Legend.[1]...

"...Evans was cremated on 7 January 1976 in Los Angeles. The Beatles did not attend his funeral, but Harry Nilsson and other friends attended. Evans' ashes were sent by post back to England, but were misplaced and lost in the postal system...

"... A suitcase that Evans was carrying at the time of his death, which was supposed to contain unreleased recordings, photos and other memorabilia, was lost by the police during the investigation and became known as the lost "Mal Evans Archive"..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal_Evans

Being a musician/involved w/ musicians is not w/o its risks. I came across this yesterday:

Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
Part III
May 13, 2008

"During the ten-year period during which Bruce, Novarro, Mineo, Linkletter, Stevens, Tate, Sebring, Frykowski and Folger all turned up dead, a whole lot of other people connected to Laurel Canyon did as well, often under very questionable circumstances. The list includes, but is certainly not limited to, all of the following names:"

Marina Elizabeth Habe, Christine Hinton, Alan “Blind Owl” Wilson, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Brandon DeWilde, Christine Frka, Danny Whitten, Bruce Berry, Clarence White, Gram Parsons, “Mama” Cass Elliot [Four years later, in the very same room of the very same London flat, still owned by Harry Nilsson, Keith Moon of The Who also died at thirty-two (on September 7, 1978)], Amy Gossage, Tim Buckley, Phyllis Major Browne, Bobby Fuller (very strange case!), Gary Hinman, Janis Joplin, Duane Allman, Berry Oakley, & Phil Ochs.

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr95.html

[accuracy]

The truth hurts............................................. ..............:D

[accuracy]

Bump


:D:D:cool:

[clozaril]

my first post on this thread and probably last


i would like to add that mal evans gets a name check on tandorri chicken by ronnie spector which was released on apple written by geroge harrison and phil spector.

:)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LI4kD_YD8I4

[accuracy]

Yeah, this thread has run it's course.

It's time for the Conspiratainment forum.

[astrochicken]

Yeah, this thread has run it's course.

It's time for the Conspiratainment forum.

Disagree with you there.

As a newbie i was amazed and baffled by the fact that the paul is dead/replaced threads where amongst the top posts in this forum.

I ignored them for a while.

Eventually i had a wee read and another wee read to the point where imho it is so glaringly fucking obvious that paul is not paul.

This thread deserves it's prominent position and should be read.. i mean, fuck we're talking about "THE BEATLES" .
That Sir Mick and the stones are part of the agenda, as are sting,bono and sir geldof is blatantly obvious, but no band gets big on their own accord.
They push britney,take that and force feed you all the other crap.

Last week i was talking to a radio DJ (FFN big in germany) 15 years ago he'd look through his albums at home and take them to work... now he's handed a list with 20 songs which he can rearrange and at best forget to play one)

Beatlefuckingmania... c'mon???

Watch the last interview with the real paul.. he wouldn't have played their game. Imagine the music he could have made, instead we got the frog song ,the long and winding road and hope of fucking deliverance.. the worst dirge i'm ever likely to hear. That's the sad part.

Paul is dead.
Thanks to all the posters that showed me yet another rabbit hole.

[supertzar]

So why do Paul and "Faul's" features line up exactly, astrochicken?

[astrochicken]

So why do Paul and "Faul's" features line up exactly, astrochicken?

i'm sure you've dabbled in photoshop and found the skew icon?

While you're at it don't forget to mention his corrective plastic ear lobe surgery, the lasered eyes,restructured feet, hairless hands, height difference etc.

Oh, and lest i forget the fact that he's obviously devoid of any musical talent.


People who excel at something don't suddenly stop being themselves.

They can "sell-out" and go commercial but they don't suddenly become shite.

Hope of fucking deliverance...


I just checked the vid in your signature...... skip the excel bit above.. i give up

[supertzar]

i'm sure you've dabbled in photoshop and found the skew icon?

Are you alleging that one or both of these pics are photoshopped? Which one?

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3936/3earcompare1ay9.jpg

[astrochicken]

Are you alleging that one or both of these pics are photoshopped? Which one?

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3936/3earcompare1ay9.jpg

Nope, neither of those look photoshopped to me.

They are however taken from entirely different angles,
Faul's photo is taken further from the left and at a lower angle, i'm assuming by a small photographer or faul was possibly standing higher up.

So using that method and with photographs taken from different angles
i could probably match the queen and michael douglas.

I can't be bothered but should i ever succumb to boredom then i might
whack something together to keep you amused.

[supertzar]

It's a slightly different angle, not "entirely." It's about as close as you are going to get in different photographs. Funny how you changed your objection from the pics being photoshopped to it being an entirely different angle, which it is not.

[astrochicken]

It's a slightly different angle, not "entirely." It's about as close as you are going to get in different photographs. Funny how you changed your objection from the pics being photoshopped to it being an entirely different angle, which it is not.

Chief, you're wierd.

First off, i had no idea which picture you were intitially referring to as there was none in the post. If you spent a few minutes rotating faul, aligning them and dragging lines across then you've obviously got a bond going and an image you can retrieve it at will. Good for you, i'm pleased.

Anyways, THAT particular image is not photoshopped ie. skewed.
So, no i haven't changed my tune.

It's a slightly different angle... about as close as you can get

Utter Crap.

It was probably the only one where the angle was sufficiently *slightly different* to fit in to your perception.


Anyways, I've seen too many good and informative threads be *disappeared* through "my horse can piss further than your horse" contests.

Whatever. You think paul's alive. I think paul's dead.

[dankai]

Quite interesting.

[supertzar]

Chief, you're wierd.

It's weird. Maybe I am, but not because of this. I have no idea what you mean by "rotating Faul" or "got a bond going." Maybe you are the weird one? I didn't create that image, by the way, but I challenge you to find a photo of anyone that is closer to either of these pics in angle and measurement than the other pic is.

i had no idea which picture you were intitially referring to as there was none in the post

Forgive me, but it's hard to keep all these Faul threads straight. There is a bewildering array of them...

[graflok]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2m7j9xz.jpg

[orbandsceptre27]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2m7j9xz.jpg


:D Nice one, only that you showed the facial similarities, I would have said they are two completely different people Graflok.

[supertzar]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2m7j9xz.jpg

Those don't line up. It's the top of his eye and the bottom of hers and the hairline is all wrong.

[supertzar]

The challenge is to find a photo of anyone other than Paul McCartney that is closer to either of the photos in the comparison than the other one.

[orbandsceptre27]

Are you alleging that one or both of these pics are photoshopped? Which one?

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3936/3earcompare1ay9.jpg


Give me a fawking break - all you have to do is find photoshop, home in the requisite co-ordinates and "bob`s your uncle" ..................... Paul McCartneys head aligns with a bulldozer lol :D

[supertzar]

So, you are saying these are photoshopped?

[orbandsceptre27]

So, you are saying these are photoshopped?

I`m saying go back to proving Jimmy Hendrix drowned on a bottle of wine, and leave the McCartney material to people who have studied it in dept and actually give a crap.

[supertzar]

Okay, I will leave you alone. My opinion on this non-issue is clear. And it's Jimi, not "Jimmy."

[toty1994]

Oh, and lest i forget the fact that he's obviously devoid of any musical talent.


People who excel at something don't suddenly stop being themselves.

They can "sell-out" and go commercial but they don't suddenly become shite.



Why is this always brought up, as if McCartney is the only iconic musician who went on to produce drivel later in his career? Very few big names from the 60's and 70's managed to retain their initial greatness, so I think this line of thinking is irrelevant. Also, he didn't 'suddenly become shite' - his musical decline was gradual imo, and even during his worst period (most of the 80's) there'd still be the occassional purple patch.

Off the top of my head, another great artist who went into decline was David Bowie (again, for most of the 80's). Was he replaced too? On second thoughts, don't answer that.

[supertzar]

Eric Clapton anyone?

[lostworld]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2m7j9xz.jpg

Graflok - that made my day LOL! You're a genious...:)

And it IS the same kinda thing. These lines don't prove anything.
You already see in that Paul/Faul line comparison that Faul's face is totally different. You also have to get the same angle and size for it to at least be worth watching.

In a more "prooving" comparison a line should for instance go between Paul's ear and nose. And from his nose to mouth. Then some lines from nose to eyes etc. Best of all if this comparsion also could be made in a front face view pic.
These measured lines on Paul should then be copied and pasted on to Faul's face and the lines should be an exact match for you to have some kind of case here.

This really says nothing.


If Lucas/Paltrow hade been exactly the same size and angle the comparison would probably have been a 100%.


http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1062/3earcompare1ay9qg6.jpg



Graflok has made a really big point! :p

Thanks Graflok!

[lostworld]

Those don't line up. It's the top of his eye and the bottom of hers and the hairline is all wrong.


But - using the same kind of logical reasoning as in the Paul/Faul line comparison:
except for hairline and the slightly different eye angle Lucas and Paltrow look exactly the same? :D


Yeah, the resemblance is just striking! :D

[graflok]

BTW, I was in a hurry. My first choices were Lucas and a cocker spaniel or
Elvis and Homer Simpson but Lucas/Gwyneth was a better match.

But, I did that in about a minute. You could take a little more time
and do a better match-up with a zillion combinations of faces.

It's obviously meaningless.

[lostworld]

BTW, I was in a hurry. My first choices were Lucas and a cocker spaniel or
Elvis and Homer Simpson but Lucas/Gwyneth was a better match.

But, I did that in about a minute. You could take a little more time
and do a better match-up with a zillion combinations of faces.

It's obviously meaningless.

LOL!

You should - when you have some more time - do that cocker spaniel comparison Graflok! ;)

Again - excellent point and very funny! :)

[supertzar]

My point is that the measurements are obviously the same for young Paul and old Paul. I would bet any of you anything that I own that scientific measurements done using the same principle as this comparison would show that the bone structure of his face has remained the same throughout his career. And the principle used here is already in use, by the way. How do you think face recognition works?

[faulconandsnowjob]

It seems that photos of Paul have been tampered w/ to make him seem more like Faul, & vice versa. I'm not saying anyone posting to these threads is doing that. I'm saying TPTB are doing it to hide the fact that Paul was replaced. It seems like there are official composites of Paul & Faul (White Album pic). It does get hard to tell the difference when the official pic is an amalgamation.

Astrochicken, thank you so much for posting this!!!

Eventually i had a wee read and another wee read to the point where imho it is so glaringly fucking obvious that paul is not paul.

This thread deserves it's prominent position and should be read.. i mean, fuck we're talking about "THE BEATLES" .
That Sir Mick and the stones are part of the agenda, as are sting,bono and sir geldof is blatantly obvious, but no band gets big on their own accord.
They push britney,take that and force feed you all the other crap.

...
Watch the last interview with the real paul.. he wouldn't have played their game. Imagine the music he could have made, instead we got the frog song ,the long and winding road and hope of fucking deliverance.. the worst dirge i'm ever likely to hear. That's the sad part.

Paul is dead.
Thanks to all the posters that showed me yet another rabbit hole.

I'm really glad we were able to get thru to some people. I think it's important to shed light on this particular tactic of TPTB. It is very sad :(

[orbandsceptre27]

My point is that the measurements are obviously the same for young Paul and old Paul. I would bet any of you anything that I own that scientific measurements done using the same principle as this comparison would show that the bone structure of his face has remained the same throughout his career. And the principle used here is already in use, by the way. How do you think face recognition works?


Would you be willing to bet your car on that Supertzar? Cause I could do with a good set of wheels at the minute ;)

[supertzar]

What do you have to bet? I would do it if you put up something of equal value. We would have to agree on the photographs to be used and we'd need to agree on a system or an expert or something.

[faulconandsnowjob]

PID almost saw the inside of a courtroom, but was, unfortunately, shut down. Bettina Krischbin's paternity suit against Paul McCartney claimed a stand in was sent for a blood test in 1983. Background info at:

Paul McCartney Under Investigation in Berlin
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,483950,00.html

This case has since been dismissed. Some interesting things Bettina Krischbin has said, though.

From Hardinghaus, Barbara, "Papa Paul," Der Spiegel, 25. Juni 2007.

...At the top of the piece of paper, there stood “Proof of Identity,” and it dealt with a form that James Paul McCartney, Pass Number PB033834033839, signed back in the beginning of the 1980’s, when his blood was taken.

On the identification there was a photo attached, a Polaroid of his face.

Bettina Krischbin looked at this face a long time. It is, as stated in the documents, Paul McCartney’s face. She committed that face to memory, went home, and looked at pictures of McCartney in the ’80’s. She found that he looked different at this time than he did on the Polaroid, fuller.

“He sent a Double to the test back then,” she said. Her mother sat next to her, smoked, and nodded silently.

From F.v.Mutius; B. Jänichen, “Ermittlungen gegen McCartney eingestellt; Berlinerin verliert Kampf um angebliche Vaterschaft des Ex-Beatle,” DIE WELT, 25. Mai 2007:

...She [Bettina] had assembled proof and had gotten ‘two important witnesses,’ who belonged to McCartney’s circle of aquaintances. The world famous singer once supposedly told them, that he had cheated on the blood test...

From Patrick Goldstein, “Berliner Staatsanwalt ermittelt gegen Paul McCartney,” DIE WELT, 19. Mai 2007.

[Recently looking in the files, Bettina] saw a photo together with a signature from the day blood was taken in London. Her verdict: “That is not McCartney. The real McCartney had at this time a much fuller face. The man in the photo looks like McCartney. But he isn’t.” Even the signature is supposedly false. This signature does not hold up to a comparison with the original in the Hamburger Beatles-Museum. In addition: “Friends of mine have looked at and said: a right-handed person wrote that.”

Someone didn't get the law right in dismissing Bettina's case. The Germans threw it out b/c the statute of limitations (SOL) for fraud was 5 years. BUT she wasn't suing for fraud, but for support. The fraud should have stopped the SOL on the paternity suit. The SOL on the paternity suit should've started running again once the fraud was discovered - & she moved right away once she discovered it.

paul is dead - the rotten apple 52 2 (about Bettina)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cs5UIDjuo8

[lostworld]

My point is that the measurements are obviously the same for young Paul and old Paul. I would bet any of you anything that I own that scientific measurements done using the same principle as this comparison would show that the bone structure of his face has remained the same throughout his career. And the principle used here is already in use, by the way. How do you think face recognition works?

Well Supertzar, then you would be broke... :p

There is nothing obvious about it! And EVEN if measurements are approx the same, you can find the same match in other face-comparisons. Just like Graflok described & prooved.
I'm looking forward to a possible cocker spaniel post... :D

Seriously though - like I wrote before: post a front face pic on Paul and Faul. Size and angle must be as accurate as possible (this comparison sent is not). Lines must be drawn all across the facial features most important parts.
Copy and paste the exact same lines and there must be a fit.
Then we can talk about it.

I also agree with Faulcon that it can be hard to find good pics cause a lot seems to be tampered with.
But look at the videos! The expression and mannereism, his voice.
HOW can you think that this is the same man? :confused:
Does any one of you change your sense of humour, mannersisms, voice and personality ifrom one year to another just like that? Cause that's what "Paul" did!
THAT people, is what's obvious here...

Graflok debunked your theory. Your theory also disregards shape of the mouth, nose and eyes etc. And the widht of the face for instance.
Some things can be altered by plastic surgery, some can not.

And why would the real Paul wanna change his nose in to that beak-nose?
Or any other facial features for that matter?
I don't think Paul was like that. He knew he was good looking, he had no hang ups with his appearance - why should he??
He certainly was too young to start thinking about operations for any other reason too. There was abs no natural need for this.

[astrochicken]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2m7j9xz.jpg

Thanx for that. That is precisely the point i was trying to make to supertzar and i would have also gotten around to that eventually. Now i needn't search,download and install photoshop/gimp.

[orbandsceptre27]

Disagree with you there.

As a newbie i was amazed and baffled by the fact that the paul is dead/replaced threads where amongst the top posts in this forum.

I ignored them for a while.

Eventually i had a wee read and another wee read to the point where imho it is so glaringly fucking obvious that paul is not paul.

This thread deserves it's prominent position and should be read.. i mean, fuck we're talking about "THE BEATLES" .
That Sir Mick and the stones are part of the agenda, as are sting,bono and sir geldof is blatantly obvious, but no band gets big on their own accord.
They push britney,take that and force feed you all the other crap.

Last week i was talking to a radio DJ (FFN big in germany) 15 years ago he'd look through his albums at home and take them to work... now he's handed a list with 20 songs which he can rearrange and at best forget to play one)

Beatlefuckingmania... c'mon???

Watch the last interview with the real paul.. he wouldn't have played their game. Imagine the music he could have made, instead we got the frog song ,the long and winding road and hope of fucking deliverance.. the worst dirge i'm ever likely to hear. That's the sad part.

Paul is dead.
Thanks to all the posters that showed me yet another rabbit hole.


Well said Astrochicken and thank you :cool:

People are so conditioned that Faul (Billy) has "become" Paul, but Paul was much more of a renegade like Lennon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2UYRoti-tY
Day Tripper - The original Paul McCartney with the Beatles.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Paul was much more of a renegade like Lennon.
Yes, it seems so, & that's what got him into trouble, I fear :(

http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/faux_paul_mccartney_on_28th_august_1966.jpghttp://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/the_truth/faul_ver_3.jpg

Faul's ear prosthetic:

Paul McCartney and Wings- Mary had a little lamb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaZ9s7S26qg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/Faullamb2.jpg

[orbandsceptre27]

What do you have to bet? I would do it if you put up something of equal value. We would have to agree on the photographs to be used and we'd need to agree on a system or an expert or something.

Or you could just give me the car now and save yourself the bother of being found wrong.......... again :)

[orbandsceptre27]

"Mary had a Little Lamb(Sheep)" - I see Billy was stretching his talents there Faulcon - I can forgive someone for plagiarism, but of a nursery rhyme........ tut tut!

[faulconandsnowjob]

"Mary had a Little Lamb(Sheep)"
LOL - they rub our noses in it, don't they? :confused: It's kind of like "Junior's Farm" - William (Junior) Campbell's farm in Campbelltown in Scotland. Faul moved to Paul's Scottish farm shortly after taking over the role of "Paul McCartney." In an interview from Melody Maker, 27 March 1965, Paul indicated he would not leave England permanently:

COLEMAN: "Would you ever leave Britain to live abroad?"
PAUL: "No definitely not. Out of everywhere I've been, I like England best."

from http://only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi?board=frontman&action=display&thread=841

Junior's Farm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfUjk4ukFoA

"Down to junior's farm where I want to lay low..."

Yeah, maybe he didn't want to be on the scene too much - people would be bound to notice. :D

[orbandsceptre27]

LOL - they rub our noses in it, don't they? :confused: It's kind of like "Junior's Farm" - William (Junior) Campbell's farm in Campbelltown in Scotland. Faul moved to Paul's Scottish farm shortly after taking over the role of "Paul McCartney." In an interview from Melody Maker, 27 March 1965, Paul indicated he would not leave England permanently:



Junior's Farm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfUjk4ukFoA

"Down to junior's farm where I want to lay low..."

Yeah, maybe he didn't want to be on the scene too much - people would be bound to notice. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa_GsaL11T0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnPtDkSGpHA&feature=related

[faulconandsnowjob]

Beatlefuckingmania... c'mon???
As much as I LOVE the Beatles, I have to admit there seems to have been something contrived about it all.

The Clash - London Calling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiVvA9YQpiI

"Phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust..."

From http://www.konformist.com/botm/volume01/botm0298.htm:

There has been much speculation from some (like the brilliant but sexually repressed genius Lyndon LaRouche) that the so-called "British Invasion" was in fact a social experiment created and manufactured by British Intelligence (you know: the dudes who murdered Lady Di.) As Mr. LaRouche has put it:

"Rock is essentially a revival of the ancient, Dionysiac, Bacchic ritual. It does have a relationship to the alpha rhythms of the brain. If combined with a little alcohol and more, shall we say, mood-shaping substances, with youth, with funny sex, this does produce a personality change of a countercultural type."

In other words, a mind kontrol experiment.

And, so, the theory goes, The Beatles, the Stones, the Who and others (including, presumably later, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Fleetwood Mac, The Bee Gees, The Sex Pistols, The Police, Def Leppard, and Oasis) were really just fronts for the Tavistock Institute, a diabolical UK-based Club of Rome think tank. An attempt, like with LSD, to destroy legitimate rebellion by manufacturing a kounter-kulture too self-destructive to ever accomplish any real revolutionary goals.

As absurd as that may sound on the face of it, the fact remains that even (or especially) Beatlemania was very much manufactured. Most (if not all) of the "fainting girls" were staged, the girls paid by Beatles promoters to surround the band with a state of hysteria. So were most of the "airport riots", which were always exaggerated in news reports. The idea was to create an illusionary state of fanatical popularity behind the Beatles that would become accepted, and thus soon the myth would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The purpose of this devious plot was to brainwash the fools out there into thinking that the Beatles were the greatest rock band of all time. Of course, the Beatles ARE the greatest rock band of all time, so there's a question of why they were trying to brainwash everyone of it. In any case, the record label for the Beatles was EMI (Electrical and Mechanical Instruments), a big-time producer of military electronics and a big insider in the British military intelligence komplex.

And from http://www.whale.to/b/lenn.html:

When the Beatles came into power, the kind of choices we have today didn't even exist. They were created with the wave of popularity that was created around the Beatles -- four young men like anyone else with a fair amount of talent and a tremendous amount of support. The groundwork had been laid with the growth of television. Ed Sullivan and American Bandstand made it possible to create the audience that would create the groundswell that would change history.

The Beatles did not choose to be part of this plan. They had talent, and they wanted to be successful, what any musician/artist/writer wants. They got the support they needed. They had no idea what was in store for them.

The Beatles were part of the mass experimentation that contemporary society was being subjected to by the CIA, Britain's MI6 and the Tavistock Institute utilizing extraordinarily powerful mind-altering psychedelic/psychotropic drugs.

It didn't start out that way -- but that was the plan.

The Beatles came into America at the height of the Civil Rights movement. Protest music was in the air (Eve of Destruction; Abraham, Martin and John; Joe Hill; Cruel War; Society's Child, etc.) which was creating a massive counterculture that threatened everything that had been established by those who fought World War II. In spite of the fact that so many had been slaughtered during the Holocaust and the reign of Eugenics worldwide, allowing for the Baby Boom of the 1950s, what no one had anticipated was that increasing the number of white middle class children would result in a backlash against an establishment that considered them nothing more than cannon fodder for the next power move. Something had to be done.

John Lennon was one of the "big guns" in the CIA/Tavistock/MI6 arsenal. It was the Beatles who first started alluding to the "Magical Mystery Tour" that led our generation down the CIA created yellow-brick-road of LSD and marijuana, and no one even challenged the imagery. That in and of itself should smell suspicious, that the middle-class, straight-laced establishment didn't have them booted out of the country right then and there for being a danger to the American way of life. But of course not. They were doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing. It was the CIA, after all, that brought LSD into this country with the idea that it would enable those in power to more efficiently control the rest of us. It didn't exactly work out the way they wanted it to, but hey, it came close enough. The Civil Rights movement came to a screeching halt as people began to heed the words, "Turn on, tune in, drop out."

The truly American fight for justice and equal rights was interfering far too much in the agenda for power and control that the United States was imposing on the rest of the world. Mind control experiments were at their height. It seemed the perfect solution for the "hippie" problem...
...
Shortly before his death, Lennon was interviewed by Playboy magazine, where he blatantly asserted, "We must always remember to thank the CIA and the Army for LSD. They invented LSD to control people and what they did was give us freedom. ...look at the Government reports on acid..."

He also indicated his awareness that the Beatles themselves had literally been subjected to mind experimentation with respect to certain drugs they were induced to use; and further conveyed that he knew the Beatles and the entire "Beatlemania" phenomenon were to some extent at least just another aspect of some very wide-scale, globalist "social engineering and experimentation. More than any of the other boys in the band, John Lennon had become increasingly aware of the extent of corruption, co-opting and infiltration of the counterculture -- including the rock music scene -- by the covert government intelligence elements.

He had to be stopped.

In the same interview, Yoko stated, "I really think that what happened in the Seventies can be compared to what happened under Naziism with Jewish families. Only the force that split them came from the inside, not from the outside."

It was only more subtle, and far more effective.

Shortly after that interview, New World Order head honcho and Satanist, globalist, CIA director, Tavistock underling and then vice-president George Bush Sr. had Lennon slaughtered on the streets of New York utilizing yet another mind-controlled Delta slave Mark David Chapman. Mark Chapman is the victim of an artificially induced model psychosis...


The Beatles - Dig It!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaBsa2eU0gg

"Like a rolling stone
Like a rolling stone
Like the FBI and the CIA
And the BBC--BB King
And Doris Day
Matt Busby
Dig it, dig it, dig it
Dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it"

[adbasque]

Very interesting for sure,but I think that the original Paul is still alive today.Just a gut feeling.

A little off topic here but if anyone of the famous musicians that died and are still alive I am absolutely convinced that Jim Morrison is still alive.

I am sure that Paul is still alive, because even if they found a replacement for him, he's as talented as the real paul, because I followed his career since he started until today, he has little things he used to do when he was a teenager, it's very difficult for someone to copy someone else that well.


However I always keep an open mind, anything is possible, I am musician myself, when paul plays the bass, he has the exact same moves, and the fingers position on the guitar neck are identical too,

When he is phrasing on the bass, he uses the same techniques as when he was younger.

From my own experience every musician has his own way of playing an instrument, it's 1 in a billion to find two people who play exactly the same way.

Anyway this my opinion

[astrochicken]

However I always keep an open mind, anything is possible, I am musician myself, when paul plays the bass, he has the exact same moves, and the fingers position on the guitar neck are identical too,

When he is phrasing on the bass, he uses the same techniques as when he was younger.

From my own experience every musician has his own way of playing an instrument, it's 1 in a billion to find two people who play exactly the same way.

Anyway this my opinion

If we were talking about John Entwhistle of "the who" or geddy lee from "rush" then i'd agree with you. They are unique.

However, we're talking paul's phrasing of bass lines, they are "a dime a dozen" and certainly not rocket science.

[supertzar]

Thank you for your intelligent contribution, adbasque. Can you show us any specific mannerisms he displayed in both his youth and in older years?

[faulconandsnowjob]

I am sure that Paul is still alive, because even if they found a replacement for him, he's as talented as the real paul,
That is definitely disputed. I don't think Faul comes close to Paul's talent. Faul has never been able to whip out another "Yesterday" or "Eleanor Rigby."

because I followed his career since he started until today, he has little things he used to do when he was a teenager, it's very difficult for someone to copy someone else that well.
Those things can be copied.

However I always keep an open mind, anything is possible, I am musician myself, when paul plays the bass, he has the exact same moves, and the fingers position on the guitar neck are identical too,
Again, things like that can be imitated.


From my own experience every musician has his own way of playing an instrument, it's 1 in a billion to find two people who play exactly the same way.
Maybe, unless someone is copying another person's style.

Anyway this my opinion
Well, that's fine, but there is still one insurmountable hurdle: they don't look the same. Do you really want to argue this is the same guy?

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphis_66_paul.jpg

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/Faul_eyebrow.jpg

^ Yes, that is really supposed to be Paul :eek:

[astrochicken]

AND... as regards mannerisms.. with paul they were just that.
The Ersatz-"McCartney" of today had to study them closely in order to pass off in interviews.. to me they look like twitches through excessive mimicry.

[orbandsceptre27]

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=33WMgHkAiqY&feature=channel_page

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Well, like I said before, you can superimpose all you want, but they're never going to line up b/c they're 2 completely difft people. More & more people are starting to see that :)

[orbandsceptre27]

^ Damit Faulcon, it doesn`t get any clearer than this :p ;)

[karol2020]

this is something that will never end... PID true or lie?

Sometimes I REALLY see the difference between them.... they really looks like different people in appearence and behavoiur....
But other times I think if it´s not just cause he had a change of behaviour that year... and the grew of hair face made he look even more like other person.... like when someone changes a lot and we say "He looks like another peson"....

:confused:

[faulconandsnowjob]

Sometimes I REALLY see the difference between them.... they really looks like different people in appearence and behavoiur....
They really are different people :)

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/Penny_comp.jpg

[orbandsceptre27]

this is something that will never end... PID true or lie?

Sometimes I REALLY see the difference between them.... they really looks like different people in appearence and behavoiur....
But other times I think if it´s not just cause he had a change of behaviour that year... and the grew of hair face made he look even more like other person.... like when someone changes a lot and we say "He looks like another peson"....



Hi Karol2020 -

The best thing you can do is read through some of the material on the PID threads here, but also go to you tube and view old vids of Paul being interviewed and then Billy - Pauls interviews are pre-1967. It took me a number of months to be fully convinced that it was`nt the same man, so I know exactly how you feel :).

Iamaphoneys vids on you tube are also a good place to start -

http://ie.youtube.com/user/iamaphoney

There are also some v good websites where you`ll find great picture comparisons and people who have been into this whole area longer than most -

http://only1rad.proboards62.com/

Remember Billy isn`t an actor or a lookalike, he is a double living the life of another man who has been replaced. In fairness he`s doing a damn good job of it, but the cracks are there you just have to look for them!

[truthseeker49]

Orb, you have handled that perfectly. Thank you for directing her to my forum. I'm sure that she will find some of her answers there. :o

[orbandsceptre27]

^ Haha....... don`t go getting all embarrassed on me now Truthseeker :p :). Seriously though, if people only examine the material you have on your forum it becomes pretty clear he was replaced. What exactly happened to him, I suppose, is a whole other story.

[truthseeker49]

What gets me crazy are the people who insist that they have seen Paul in photos post Sept. 1966. I know for a FACT that he died before then. So that puts me in the position of looking at their pictorial/video "proof" & point out to them that it's not Paul at all. The ears look fake, the eyes are too close together, the forehead is almost always larger. When they present photos, I have to wonder if it's not another composite like the bogus one that JS2 slapped together in 10 minutes. If he can slap together something that quickly that can half fool me, imagine what has been done over the years by photographic professionals ... :eek:
Unbelievable... :(

[orbandsceptre27]

^ I guess people have become conditioned into seeing Bill as Paul over the years. Some of the pictures of Bill with the fake ears are truely terrible - how did he get away with it for so long? It must be the biggest open secret in the entertainment industry, and the eyes are a completely different colour as pointed out here so often.

Yeah the fake composite photos are a right pain, but once you figure some of them out it shows to what lengths they`ve gone to keep Pauls switch under-raps! If you have any bogus photos you`d like to show Truthseeker that would be great!

[truthseeker49]

Wow, ok. Actually, I'm unexpectedly home today. I went to take my very pregnant daughter- in-law to an appointment. It's snowing today. NOONE likes driving in that stuff. I hit a patch of ice going around a curve and my car just kept going. It wouldn't allow me to come out of the curve. I just kept going straight, right over the curb. Thank the gods that I was going slow enough that it stopped at the back tires. So, I had to back the car off the curb. I was lucky in that my mom lived less than 2 blocks away. I slowly creeped there, and pulled into a space in front of her house. We had the car towed to our mechanic, and he says that I damaged something in the back undercarriage. He's going to have to order the part & he's not going to be able to get to it for a few days. So, now I'm stuck at home without a car.
This SUCKS ! :(
Anyway, now that I got that off of my chest, :D, I will go & see what I can find to post here.
Here goes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/beatles---help.jpg
Now look at this>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/beach5.jpg
It is obvious that both photos were taken at different times. Why does Paul look so similar in both photos ? Why does he appear so much taller in the second photo ?

[truthseeker49]

Look at "Paul's" forehead>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/hlpdrsrm.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/TheFaker/malevans08.jpg
Faul from the November 1966 Mal Evans Kenya home movies.
Paul never had lines on his forehead like that.
From the Beatles at Shea Stadium, 1965
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/truecolors112/188007.jpgNo lines.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/hlpdrsrm.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/speaknoevilaa.jpg Also taken during the filming of Help !
Check out the difference between the eyes & eyebrows in the above two photos. There is a "suggestion" of lines in the second photo. I have to wonder if that was done on purpose ???

Continued...

[truthseeker49]

Paul http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/hlpdrsrm.jpg
Faul http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/PaulMcCartney721-1.jpg
Paul, taken during Help ! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/pgski.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/BeatlesStory65_21.jpg No lines...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/JPM/hlpdrsrm.jpghttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/help.jpg
The second photo above was also taken during the filming of Help! Paul is wearing the same shirt as in the photo that was tampered with.

[truthseeker49]

Paulhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/k335.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/lovemedo10.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/definitelytamperedwith.jpg
The above two photos are very similar. If you really look at them, they seem to be "off". Compared to the above photo, they don't seem to look all that much like Paul... :(

[truthseeker49]

Version most commonly found:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/photoedit2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/photoedit1.jpg
Is the second photo the same as the first, undoctored ???
I find the light patches on the 1st photo to be highly suspicious. :(

Look how strange Paul looks in the below photo:
http://www.beatlesource.com/savage/1963/63.01.21%20emi%20house/00.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/MOA008_BEATLES_6.jpg
The above photo is the original. As you can see in the 1st photo, only Paul has been tampered with. My question is WHY ???

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/truecolors112/part%203/82202304.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/53.jpg
The first photo is obviously tampered with. There are lines in Paul's forehead that are not apparent in the second photo. And... Paul's eyes in the first photo look cartoonish, proving that someone was messing around with it...

[truthseeker49]

Now onto the Pièce de résistance:

GN on the NIR ( Nothing is Real ) forum just posted a link to the thread that had this original photo comparison in it. Here it is, in all it's glory:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/12-1-65-02.jpghttp://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/Paultamperedtwo.jpg
It is astounding how close the two photos are. To me it appears that they took photos of Paul, painted a mustache on him, and painted his shirt "black".
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/mustacheairbrushqc0.gif

They took Paul's photo, changed his shirt, and placed a mustache on his upper lip. Note the date on the magazine, March 1967.
What disturbs me the most about this comparison is that the people who ran The Beatles Monthly Book must've known that something had happened to Paul. Why else would they doctor an already existing photo, to give the allusion that Paul had just changed his look ? Why was it so important to show him with a mustache at that time ? Was it because Faul wore one in order to hide plastic surgery on his upper lip ? Gawd knows, he has had more than his share of plastic surgery over the years. :rolleyes: :(


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/67newmoustache.jpg
I'm keeping my eye open for the original photo that the above photo is based on. Paul never wore a mustache, and since "he" is wearing the same shirt as in the doctored photo, I'm certain that this photo is doctored also.

For those of you who are sitting on the fence & have already seen some of the fades & comparisons made by PIAers, I have one very important suggestion. Don't take our word for it. See if you can get your hands on vintage magazines. 1963 - 1967 are the best. If you can get them from a local store or even the library you stand a good chance that the earlier ones haven't been messed with. I ordered some vintage magazines off the internet( E-Bay ). They cost me a pretty penny, but they were well worth it. The thing is, this was years ago before the ones behind this began to take us seriously. Now I'm afraid that they might put doctored magazines up for sale. Unfortunately with their power & resources, they are capable of almost anything. < sigh >

[orbandsceptre27]

Wow, ok. Actually, I'm unexpectedly home today. I went to take my very pregnant daughter- in-law to an appointment. It's snowing today. NOONE likes driving in that stuff. I hit a patch of ice going around a curve and my car just kept going. It wouldn't allow me to come out of the curve. I just kept going straight, right over the curb. Thank the gods that I was going slow enough that it stopped at the back tires. So, I had to back the car off the curb. I was lucky in that my mom lived less than 2 blocks away. I slowly creeped there, and pulled into a space in front of her house. We had the car towed to our mechanic, and he says that I damaged something in the back undercarriage. He's going to have to order the part & he's not going to be able to get to it for a few days. So, now I'm stuck at home without a car.
This SUCKS ! :(
Anyway, now that I got that off of my chest, :D, I will go & see what I can find to post here.
Here goes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/beatles---help.jpg
Now look at this>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/beach5.jpg
It is obvious that both photos were taken at different times. Why does Paul look so similar in both photos ? Why does he appear so much taller in the second photo ?

I`m just after p.ming you there Truthseeker - I hope you and your daughter-in-law weren`t hurt or in shock of any kind after that :(. It`s easy for an accident like that to happen on slippy roads. Anyway thankfully you seem to be alright!

Regarding the two pictures here - the first appears more realistic than the colour second. The colour pic looks as if all four were messed around with. We can`t see the feet and Paul appears unnaturally tall. He was obviously shunted up a few inches to make him appear like the taller Faul.

[orbandsceptre27]

Now onto the Pièce de résistance:

GN on the NIR ( Nothing is Real ) forum just posted a link to the thread that had this original photo comparison in it. Here it is, in all it's glory:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/12-1-65-02.jpghttp://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/Paultamperedtwo.jpg
It is astounding how close the two photos are. To me it appears that they took photos of Paul, painted a mustache on him, and painted his shirt "black".
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/mustacheairbrushqc0.gif

They took Paul's photo, changed his shirt, and placed a mustache on his upper lip. Note the date on the magazine, March 1967.
What disturbs me the most about this comparison is that the people who ran The Beatles Monthly Book must've known that something had happened to Paul. Why else would they doctor an already existing photo, to give the allusion that Paul had just changed his look ? Why was it so important to show him with a mustache at that time ? Was it because Faul wore one in order to hide plastic surgery on his upper lip ? Gawd knows, he has had more than his share of plastic surgery over the years. :rolleyes: :(


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/67newmoustache.jpg
I'm keeping my eye open for the original photo that the above photo is based on. Paul never wore a mustache, and since "he" is wearing the same shirt as in the doctored photo, I'm certain that this photo is doctored also.

For those of you who are sitting on the fence & have already seen some of the fades & comparisons made by PIAers, I have one very important suggestion. Don't take our word for it. See if you can get your hands on vintage magazines. 1966/1967 are the best. If you can get them from a local store or even the library you stand a good chance that the earlier ones haven't been messed with. I ordered some vintage magazines off the internet( E-Bay ). They cost me a pretty penny, but they were well worth it. The thing is, this was years ago before the ones behind this began to take us seriously. Now I'm afraid that they might put doctored magazines up for sale. Unfortunately with their power & resources, they are capable of almost anything. < sigh >

Well shoot me out of a cannon and call me Frank - You`re dead right, that`s the very same photo. I`ve seen the 1967 magazine photo of Paul with the penciled in tash (ment to look as Faul of course) but never got to view the original. You can see he`s actually wearing a black shirt under his jacket so they took that and worked from it. Do you know the exact date of the original picture Truthseeker? I`ve no doubt it`s Paul though, and then they pencilled in the tash for the mag.

[truthseeker49]

Orb, I'm still a little shaken up but we're ok. The worst part of it all will be the cost to fix the car. Concerning that colour photo, I agree with you completely. I will see if I can find other photos from that photo session in Help ! that show Paul's true height. Stay tuned... ;):D
Orb, you're right about the shirt. That went right over my head. Good catch ! I really don't know. From the way that they look I would guestimate that to have been taken sometime in 1965/66. < smile >.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Truthseeker, glad you're ok, too. Scary to lose control of a car like that :eek:

Wow, I think it's amazing that GN found the orig pic. I'm not convinced it's of Paul, tho. It would def be interesting to know when the pic was taken.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/12-1-65-02.jpg

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphisbeatles1966b.jpghttp://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/cap251.jpg

This one is def not Paul, imo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/53.jpg

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/edsul64sr2.jpghttp://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/Paul_66_last_interview.jpg

[truthseeker49]

Wow, I don't know what to say. I have always assumed that those photos were Paul. But then again, we are dealing in uncharted territory. We really don't know exactly when he was replaced. :confused:
Paul's face did swell up in 1966 due to his health condition.

Compare these two photos:
Paulhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/53.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/60.jpgFaul

It's obvious to me that they're not the same person.

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ They look the same to me. I think they're both William.

[faulconandsnowjob]

If we're talking about doctored photos, let's not forget this monstrosity (on right):

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/paul_faul_66.jpg

Yikes! :eek:

[truthseeker49]

Yeah, it looks like someone used black marker on Paul. :eek:

[orbandsceptre27]

If we're talking about doctored photos, let's not forget this monstrosity (on right):

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/paul_faul_66.jpg

Yikes! :eek:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5473/screenhunter391jz1.jpg

Yeah here`s the original tampered photo....... no butchered comes to mind lol.

Like you said Truthseeker, it`s as if someone has painted Pauls hair black with a heavy marker.

- The bottom half of his face (lower jaw) seems to have been stuck onto the top half.

- You can see the crease under both sides of his nose, but more heavily on Pauls left (our right as you look at it).

- There`s even an inverted "v" up the left side of his face which shows where both pieces of the face were joined together.

Whoever put this photo together wanted to make Paul look more like Faul (the Faul smile). If it was completely properly it would be a great way to blot Paul out completely, by merging him with his replacement in the photos. `

It`s the photographs around this timeframe (when the switch occurred) which carry the most weight, as they appear to have been altered the most.

Also the technology was obviously not as good back then as it is today.

[orbandsceptre27]

Look how strange Paul looks in the below photo:
http://www.beatlesource.com/savage/1963/63.01.21%20emi%20house/00.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/MOA008_BEATLES_6.jpg
The above photo is the original. As you can see in the 1st photo, only Paul has been tampered with. My question is WHY ???


Another great comparison Truthseeker,

In the first photo it looks like Pauls head has been seriously tampered with - it doesn`t even look lifelike (too small for the body).

It`s the only head which has been tampered with, the other three appear normal (surprise, surprise).

Is also interesting, in the second photo how the Beatles copyright sign just happens to appear across Pauls face obscuring the lower jaw - where have we seen this before....?? - in the tampered photo above from the 1966 interview.

I said it before when I was watching "The Night Before" from Help - if you look closely you`ll see that Paul McCartneys lower jaw was always a give away. He has a much stronger bottom jaw than the present Faul has. When he smiled his bottom jaw protruded slightly. One of my mates has a similar jawline, and maybe that`s why it always stood out to me.

Billy (present Faul) doesn`t have this, you can see it when he talks - He tries to hide it by consciously drooping his mouth when he pauses between sentences. It just makes him plain dozy looking!

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnCngmi8gg
Faul

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=NTb3uifuKDc
The Night Before - Help (Paul McCartney)

[faulconandsnowjob]

only Paul has been tampered with. My question is WHY ???
They want people to forget what Paul looked like. Unfortunately, they've been largely successful. Some people can't tell the difference between this cutie

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/memphis_66_paul.jpg

and this bizarre creature

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/Faul_eyebrow.jpg

That is scary that some people's minds can be so easily manipulated so that they'll see what isn't there & vice versa :eek:

[coco]

Version most commonly found:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/photoedit2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/photoedit1.jpg
Is the second photo the same as the first, undoctored ???
I find the light patches on the 1st photo to be highly suspicious. :(

Look how strange Paul looks in the below photo:
http://www.beatlesource.com/savage/1963/63.01.21%20emi%20house/00.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/MOA008_BEATLES_6.jpg
The above photo is the original. As you can see in the 1st photo, only Paul has been tampered with. My question is WHY ???

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/truecolors112/part%203/82202304.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/WlarusGirl/53.jpg
The first photo is obviously tampered with. There are lines in Paul's forehead that are not apparent in the second photo. And... Paul's eyes in the first photo look cartoonish, proving that someone was messing around with it...

Photo number 2 is very messed up. Serious tampering!

[faulconandsnowjob]

He totally looks like my ex in this pic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/CorporateA/photoedit2.jpg

Freaks me out!

[orbandsceptre27]

He totally looks like my ex in this pic:

Freaks me out!

Jes Faulcon....... your ex was an ugly git if you don`t mind me saying j/k :p :D!

[orbandsceptre27]

Photo number 2 is very messed up. Serious tampering!

^ I agree with you Coco - there`s something very strange going on with when you compare it to the original. There doesn`t seem to be much/if any difference in the other three Beatles, but with Paul it`s as plain as day he was messed with here!

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ LOL! Well, my ex was an ass. I think I liked him b/c I've always secretly been in love w/ Paul :D <333 Anyway, looks like Faul is taken (oh, darn - lol):

All Paul Needs Is Love
Posted Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:23pm PST by Billy Altman in Stop The Presses!
Yes, but is she a vegetarian?

Rumors--with wings--have been flying all day since British tabloids the Sunday Mirror and Sunday Telegraph published reports that Paul McCart…er, make that Sir Paul McCartney, is poised to marry gal pal Nancy Shevell, whom he began dating a little over a year ago in the midst of his messy $50 million divorce from Heather Mills.

We don't know exactly when, or IF, the rumored nuptials may take place. (A McCartney rep has denied the wedding gossip altogether.) Given Macca's rep as a romantic--remember, it was a cozy Route 66 drive across the U.S. last summer that sealed his relationship with Nancy--could a Valentine's Day ceremony be possible? But there is one thing we do know: While Groucho Marx once famously noted that "love flies out the door when money flies innuendo," unlike the case with Heather Mills, no one's going to be able to hurl any gold-digger dirt at the late-fortysomething Nancy Shevell.

While the ex-Beatle may be the musical one in this couple, the very well-heeled Shevell's life story can perhaps be best summed up with her own theme song: "Keep On Truckin.'" She has spent the last 25 years working for her father's New Jersey-based New England Motor Freight Company, which back in the 1980s was investigated (though never officially put on trial) by the federal government for possible ties to organized crime. Additionally, Shevell has since 2001 been a member of the board of New York State's Metropolitan Transportation Authority, a position she was appointed to by former New York Governor George Pataki, who also just happened to appoint Shevell's former and newly divorced husband, Republican lawyer Robert Blakeman, to a high transportation-related position with the state. (All of which, I guess, would seem to imply that maybe it's McCartney who'd better play this marriage carefully.)

Another thing we do know is that if Shevell needs a wedding dress, she'll need look no further than her future stepdaughter, Stella McCartney. The second-oldest child of Paul and the late Linda McCartney's three children, Stella is a successful fashion designer, and has made high-profile wedding gowns for a number of celebs, including Madonna (oops, guess one that didn't turn out so good) and, most recently, Scarlett Johannson.

Too soon to tell if Scarlett's marriage will hold, of course. But whatever the case, here's wishing McCartney the very best if he weds again. And if he comes strolling down the aisle humming "(Money) Can't Buy Me Love," well, you heard it here first.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/16949/all-paul-needs-is-love/

Wonder if Ms. Shevell knows that crusty old guy isn't really Paul... Oh, & notice how they didn't miss an opportunity to discredit Heather Mills. Yeah, well, I don't blame her for not wanting to stay married to some bizarre Paul McCartney wannabe. It's worse than this guy:

http://www.vidmax.com/video/2670/This_crazy_guy_went_all_out_to_change_himself_to_a _clone_of_Michael_Jackson/

But hey, if they can turn some white Belgian guy into a Michael Jackson look-a-like, then it'd be possible to turn Bill into Paul.

[orbandsceptre27]

^ What is it with Billy and marriage - Is there some fine print in a Satanist, dopplegangers contract that precludes him from a life without marriage??

The supposed love of his life dies (Linda), he gets hammered by Heather -dragging out rumours of this that and you know what, and still he wants more.

The guy is supposedly over 70 years of age and worth a few hundred million - Hello............ maybe she`s not marrying you for your looks and staying power McFly? ;)

[coco]

^ What is it with Billy and marriage - Is there some fine print in a Satanist, dopplegangers contract that precludes him from a life without marriage??

The supposed love of his life dies (Linda), he gets hammered by Heather -dragging out rumours of this that and you know what, and still he wants more.

The guy is supposedly over 70 years of age and worth a few hundred million - Hello............ maybe she`s not marrying you for your looks and staying power McFly? ;)

He would probably have one heck of a water tight pre nup, eh? :p

[faulconandsnowjob]

maybe she`s not marrying you for your ... staying power McFly?
LMAO! :D Yeah... funny but kind of gross at the same time :-P

[faulconandsnowjob]

Lostworld noticed that this pic looks like a composite of Faul & Paul, & I tend to agree.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/Paultamperedtwo.jpg

She said:

I think the pic is a mix of both Paul and Faul's faces actually.
The eyes are def Pauls! Faul DID NOT have those gorgeous eyelashes...

The nose looks more like Faul's.

So eyes and above = Paul
Nose and below = Faul

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46038&page=57


I think that's right on. They've done that before!

[truthseeker49]

It's just pitiful. That goes for the photo composites of Paul & Faul & Faul remarrying AGAIN !!!! < rolls eyes >

[lostworld]

One thing I always look at are the eyelashes.
A small detail that "they" didn't seem to care about... :rolleyes:

Paul had gorgeous long dark eyelashes. Faul did not.
That's why that pic didn't add up to me...

[hugolast]

Lostworld noticed that this pic looks like a composite of Faul & Paul, & I tend to agree.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/Paultamperedtwo.jpg

She said:



I think that's right on. They've done that before!

that explains the wierd ear that doesn't look real, that must be the dividing line if they've messed with it and blended them together.

i really think some of this this looks about as realistic as monsters in b movies in the fifties and sixties - because that was the limit of the special effects in those days - (don't get me started on the moon landing)

[orbandsceptre27]

that explains the wierd ear that doesn't look real, that must be the dividing line if they've messed with it and blended them together.

i really think some of this this looks about as realistic as monsters in b movies in the fifties and sixties - because that was the limit of the special effects in those days - (don't get me started on the moon landing)

I know mate, I`m not saying they didn`t go to the moon but many of the photos look horrendous and completely staged.

Yeah some of these earlier McCartney/Faul shots are obviously composites of two different men. As you said they didn`t have the technology to get it right (or even close to right at times) so some of the photos indeed look ridiculous.

[orbandsceptre27]

One thing I always look at are the eyelashes.
A small detail that "they" didn't seem to care about... :rolleyes:

Paul had gorgeous long dark eyelashes. Faul did not.
That's why that pic didn't add up to me...

Good spot Lostworld. It`s definately a strange picture and that has to be one of the lamest excuses for a tash you could see! :cool:

[faulconandsnowjob]

hugolast, the ear is totally messed up! Good grief :-P

[truthseeker49]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/earcomparison2.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/Earcomparison3.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/earcomparison.jpg The previous three are Paul.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/f_fauxpaulmccm_1473996.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/f_fauxpaulmccm_307f62f.jpg
Faul & his fake ear !

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/2nq5mo5.jpg
Paul's ear has been tampered with in this photo !

[lostworld]

Good spot Lostworld. It`s definately a strange picture and that has to be one of the lamest excuses for a tash you could see! :cool:

Thanks Orb,
I'm just glad to help if I can :)

[lostworld]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6060/83813295wq7.jpg

Peter Kay and Faul at the Christmas Lights switch on ceremony at Stella McCartney Store on November 24, 2008 in London.

Now which one of them is most disguised? :rolleyes:

[orbandsceptre27]

^ Haha :D - Class!

[faulconandsnowjob]

Saw this great quote at PID Miss Him (http://only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi?board=ramblings&action=display&thread=1197&page=1) today:

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.
~ Henri L. Bergson

Isn't that pretty much what we're dealing w/ here? So many people seem to not be able to grasp that a double could be pretending to be Paul, so they see them as the same. Speaking of B movie monsters, how's this?

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/Faul_eyebrow.jpg
^ It's like something from an Ed Wood movie :eek:

[karol2020]

ok. I was wondering where to post this, here or at Satanic rituals forum, but i´ll put here cause is about paul mccartney:

from: http://www.thesleaze.co.uk/devilmccartney.html

"The Devil and Paul McCartney


Former Beatle Sir Paul McCartney’s mysteriously age-defying good looks have long been the source of speculation in the pop world. Whilst contemporaries such as David Bowie, Mick Jagger and Elton John have visibly aged, becoming wrinkled and stooped as the years have gone by, Sir Paul has barely changed. There have been many explanations for this phenomena, including the musician’s vegetarian diet, smoking huge quantities of pot or even secret tantric sex techniques taught to him by the Maharishi back in 1967. However, one man has a far more sinister explanation for Sir Paul’s apparently eternal youth – a Satanic pact which has resulted in McCartney being forced to murder some of pop’s top performers in return for his immortal soul! “The fact is that Paul McCartney did die in October 1966 in a moped accident – but as his soul floated in limbo, he did a deal with the Devil,” declares Ed Melons, a Staffordshire van driver and editor of the Wings of Death website, which is devoted to chronicling McCartney’s demonic activities. “Not only was he allowed to return to Earth, but he was guaranteed prosperity, creativity and youth beyond his wildest dreams!” In return, according to Melons, the Devil wanted Paul’s soul, but the musician thought he could outwit the Prince of Darkness. “He struck a deal that if he could provide Satan with a soul a year until he reached the age of sixty four, then he’d get his own soul back,” says the van driver, who contends that McCartney’s songs are peppered with veiled references to the pact. “In the meantime, his soul was to be hidden in a brown paper bag inside the zoo – the walrus enclosure at London Zoo, to be precise!” Inside the bag is a vinyl record on which McCartney’s true voice – cracked and quavering with age – can be heard performing every song he has recorded since 1966. “The voice on the released versions remains uncannily youthful sounding, albeit rather soulless!” observes Melons. The rapid deterioration in Sir Paul’s appearance since he turned sixty four has led Melons to speculate that his soul has fallen into the clutches of his estranged wife, Heather McCartney. “She’s now using it as a bargaining chip in the divorce, threatening to smash it if he doesn’t pay up,” says Melons.

According to Melons, McCartney’s efforts to keep his devilish pact on track lead to him being behind virtually every mysterious death to have occurred in the world of pop since 1966. “At first he tried to stick to people on the peripheries, rather than taking out performers, so as not to risk drawing attention to himself,” he claims. “But he couldn’t resist the temptation to kill two birds with one stone and get rid of some of the professional competition for long.” Close friend and Guinness heir Tara Browne became his first sacrificial victim in December 1966, when he apparently drove his car through a red light, into the side of a van. Paul quickly reaped the rewards of this ‘accident’, entering the creative phase which would produce the Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band album. “It was all coming together for him – he was finally eclipsing John Lennon as the main creative force in the Beatles and he was shagging Jane Asher,” says Melons. “He was so pleased with himself and the deal he’d struck with the Devil that he couldn’t resist putting an allusion to it on the album in the form of ‘When I’m Sixty Four’ – none of the other Beatles suspected a thing.” Other, increasingly famous, victims followed: Brian Epstein in 1967; Brian Jones in 1969; Jimi Hendrix in 1970 and Jim Morrison in 1971. “Epstein had to go as part of Paul’s plan to gain complete control of the Beatles,” explains Melons. “Obviously, the death of Brian Jones was designed to destabilise long-term rivals The Rolling Stones, leaving the way clear for Wings to establish themselves as the top band of the early 1970s!” Indeed, Melons is convinced that McCartney’s entire post-Beatles career was founded on the Satanic pact of 1966. “How else do you explain the chart success of Wings?” he asks. “Blood sacrifices and demonic possession are surely the only way that the likes of ‘The Pipes of Peace’ or the ‘Frog Song’ could ever sell any copies.”

However, McCartney found it increasingly difficult to meet his quota of souls as colleagues in the music business began to suspect his involvement in the increasingly high profile celebrity deaths. “John Lennon had long been suspicious of Paul’s post-Beatles success, but it was the knocking off of Elvis which finally convinced him,” reveals Melons. “He remembered that Paul had once described The King as being ‘full of shit’ – the next thing anyone knew, Elvis was dead on the toilet from chronic constipation!” With Lennon now threatening to reveal all, he inevitably became a target for his former band mate. Lennon’s demise in 1980 sent shockwaves through the remaining Beatles, with drummer Ringo Starr barricading himself into his mansion with a ten year supply of alcohol and a shotgun, whilst George Harrison attempted to protect himself within a wall of meditation and positive energy. “George managed to stave off McCartney’s attacks for several years,” says Melons. “No matter what supernatural threat Paul threw at him, he managed to survive – even that demonically possessed loony who broke into his house and tried to stab him that time!” Maintaining his psychic defences took their toll on Harrison, and he finally succumbed to illness in 2001. As he finally approached sixty four, McCartney found himself facing a new threat – the succubus known as Heather Mills McCartney. “Basically, she’d done her own deal with the Devil – who was still sore at the way McCartney had tried to cheat him out of his soul – in exchange for stopping Paul’s murder spree short of his sixty fourth birthday, she’d get her leg back,” claims Melons. “Ironically, though, she too decided to try and double cross the Devil!” Deciding that a divorce settlement of several million pounds was preferable to a leg, Heather McCartney managed to locate and steal Paul’s soul. “She’s already put a couple of scratches in it as a warning as to what will happen if he doesn't go along with her plans for the divorce settlement," Melons asserts. "The effects have been shocking - one minute he was the dynamic rocker we all knew and loved, the next he was this wizened old man sporting a bad hair piece! Just imagine the consequences if she destroys the record completely!” Neither Sir Paul nor his estranged wife have been prepared to comment on Melons’ bizarre claims, although an acquaintance of the ex-Beatle has stated that: “On the whole I think Paul prefers the nutters who think he’s dead – at least they don’t think he’s a murderer!”

what do you think? it seems very fantasy land, but could paul have made a pact with the devil?

[truthseeker49]

EEK!!! :eek:

[karol2020]

sorry for the loooong post

[truthseeker49]

Karol, I can believe that of Paul's replacement not Paul. I would not be surprised if Faul made a deal with the devil in order to pull off taking Paul's place. THAT I can easily believe. Something has to have been helping him, for him to get away with it all of these years.:rolleyes:
Although I must tell you that a few of the statements in your post made me laugh out loud. I find it flattering that "Sir Paul" finds us more appealing than people who think that he's a murderer. ;)
BTW, the EEK ! was in reference to that awful photo of "Sir Paul" that Faulcon posted. < grin >
In fact, that post is so funny that I've just copied it & I'm posting it on my forum !!! < grinning wider >

[toty1994]

ok. I was wondering where to post this, here or at Satanic rituals forum, but i´ll put here cause is about paul mccartney:

from: http://www.thesleaze.co.uk/devilmccartney.html


what do you think? it seems very fantasy land, but could paul have made a pact with the devil?

That was really funny whether or not you believe a truth is hidden beneath the satire.


“Blood sacrifices and demonic possession are surely the only way that the likes of ‘The Pipes of Peace’ or the ‘Frog Song’ could ever sell any copies.”

Ok, I can believe that!:D

[truthseeker49]

Or, it could just be because he's an ex-beatle. Although, I think that Ringo & George were never given the benefit of the doubt concerning their talent. They always have/had to prove it.
Like I stated, I would not be surprised to find out that Sir Paul has been involved in some nefarious dealings.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Karol, thanks for posting that article here. I'm w/ Truthseeker that it may be true of Faul, but def not Paul.

Former Beatle Sir Paul McCartney’s mysteriously age-defying good looks have long been the source of speculation in the pop world.
Ok, they must not have seen him on the Colbert Report last night. All those operations are really starting to show :eek:

[O]ne man has a far more sinister explanation for Sir Paul’s apparently eternal youth – a Satanic pact which has resulted in McCartney being forced to murder some of pop’s top performers in return for his immortal soul! “The fact is that Paul McCartney did die in October 1966 in a moped accident – but as his soul floated in limbo, he did a deal with the Devil,” declares Ed Melons, a Staffordshire van driver and editor of the Wings of Death website, which is devoted to chronicling McCartney’s demonic activities. “Not only was he allowed to return to Earth, but he was guaranteed prosperity, creativity and youth beyond his wildest dreams!”

Sir Faul, being involved w/ the Illuminati, could very well be a satanist.

I will agree w/ the author that Paul died in 1966, but not necessarily October, & def not in a moped accident.

Paul already had incredible success by 1966 - he didn't need to do a deal w/ the devil. Faul, on the other hand, may well have needed such help (I'm only slightly kidding here).

he was finally eclipsing John Lennon as the main creative force in the Beatles
What? I'm pretty convinced that the nature of their collaboration was that Paul wrote the music & John was the wordsmith, not that there was no cross-over.

Other, increasingly famous, victims followed: ... Brian Jones in 1969; Jimi Hendrix in 1970 and Jim Morrison in 1971.
BJ & JH were likely victims of the Illuminati. Jim Morrison had strong ties to the military intelligence community. His father was Admiral George Morrison - he happened to be heavily involved in the Gulf of Tonkin "incident." (more info: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr105.html) JM is a very suspicious figure, imo.

How else do you explain the chart success of Wings?” he asks.
Well, the Illuminati control the media, don't they?

the succubus known as Heather Mills McCartney.
Oh, come on. They always have to discredit her, don't they?

Anyway, this article just seems to be a repeat of the disinfo that John sold his soul to the devil. It's just a way to discredit these guys. I noticed the article failed to mention that intelligence agencies will often use satanism as a cover.

[toty1994]

Faulcon, the tone of your analysis suggests you didn't realise that article from 'The Sleaze' was meant to be satire. It's cleverly done, but still pretty obvious surely?:confused: Just take a look a the rest of the site!

[faulconandsnowjob]

Toty, unfortunately, there has been an effort to paint the Beatles as satanists, so I thought it was a good opportunity to bring up some points. There's a new book called "The Lennon Prophecy," which to my mind, is just as ridiculous, but a lot of people actually give it credence & debate whether John sold his soul to the devil.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51rBVUv2yML._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Product Description
Offering a new interpretation of the hidden messages and symbols that have ornamented Beatles mythology for years, this examination of the Beatles' recordings and album artwork theorizes that John Lennon's murder was eerily foretold. Following a fascinating and unique trail of sorcery, mysticism, numerology, backwards masking, anagrams, and literary and theological writings, the book posits that John Lennon sold his soul in order to achieve international fame and fortune and subsequently paid the ultimate price for his success.

http://www.amazon.com/Lennon-Prophecy-Examination-Death-Beatles/dp/0942257456

[toty1994]

Ok, I see. We're actually in agreement there, wonders never cease:)

[faulconandsnowjob]

Sir Faul on Colbert Report last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ZZnjz11Wc&feature=channel_page

Stephen Colbert should've asked him about being a satanist :-P

[truthseeker49]

Toty, I didn't check out the rest of that site. I can understand Faulcon's reaction though. They have been bad mouthing John for years. So, why not start on "Paul" now ???

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ I know, there really are people who think John was a satanist. IMO, they're not seeing the Illuminati/intelligence connection.

[coco]

Odd, I never regarded Lennon as a satanist. Where would people get that idea? I suppose if I had to put a label on him I would call him a humanist.

If one is a satanist, they behave/believe in direct opposition to God, meaning one acknowledges God's existence. That wasn't Lennon.

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ I think it's just a smear campaign to discredit John so that people won't see the truth & beauty in songs like "Imagine."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOkxRLzBf0

John Lennon
Imagine (1971)

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

http://www.mp3lyrics.org/j/john-lennon/imagine/

[karol2020]

welcome faulcon :)

[faulconandsnowjob]

This is another one of John's "light" songs, imo. "Luc" means light (lūc-, s. of lūx light - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Lucid), so I think he's saying to bring on the light :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J6HXbUXbSA

John Lennon Bring on the Lucie (Freda People)

(Alright Boys, this is it, over the hill)

We don't care what flag you're waving
We don't even want to know your name
We don't care where you're from
or where you're going
All we know is that you came
You're making all our decisions
We have just one request of you
That while you're thinking things over
Here's something you just better do

Free the people now
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now
Free the people now
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now

Well we were caught with our hands in the air
Don't despair paranoia is everywhere
We can shake it with love when we're scared
So let's shout it aloud like a prayer

Free the people now
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now
Free the people now
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now

We understand your paranoia
But we don't want to play your game
You think you're cool and know what you are doing
666 is your name
So while you're jerking off each other
You better bear this thought in mind
Your time is up you better know it
But maybe you don't read the signs

Free the people now
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now
Free the people now
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now

Well you were caught with your hands in the kill
And you still got to swallow your pill
As you slip and you slide down the hill
On the blood of the people you killed

Stop the killing (Free the people now)
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now
Stop the killing (Free the people now)
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Bring-On-The-Lucie-Freda-People-lyrics-John-Lennon/A1181D650FE3EDDD48256BCA0007F44A

[karol2020]

to add to the discussion:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=PD5h83XeEss

I watched this video yesterday, and I didnt undrstand what the man author of The beatles biography "Shout" wanted to say at the beggining of the video: "The beatles is not a normal story, is a supernatural story..... Mccartney wont tell you ringo wont tell you" and "He (Paul mccartney) rewrites history all the time." what do he mean with that? :confused:

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ I def believe the Beatles is a supernatural story! There is a spiritual aspect to it, imo.

[truthseeker49]

So do I. In the very least, it became one when Paul died. :(
I'm glad that you've joined us,Karol. Don't worry about your English. You're doing very well... {{{ HUGS }}}

[karol2020]

So do I. In the very least, it became one when Paul died. :(
I'm glad that you've joined us,Karol. Don't worry about your English. You're doing very well... {{{ HUGS }}}

Hi truthseeker :) my english is not that good so sometimes I have to take a look at the dictionarie, but i´m trying my best :p and hugs for you too :)

[truthseeker49]

Karol, you're doing very well. May I ask what country you're from ???

[humito]

^ I think it's just a smear campaign to discredit John so that people won't see the truth & beauty in songs like "Imagine."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOkxRLzBf0

John Lennon
Imagine (1971)

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

http://www.mp3lyrics.org/j/john-lennon/imagine/

sounds like a horrible totalitarian nihilistic nightmare to me..............he also sung (and probably his most spirited ever vocal!!!) GIVE ME MONEY ,THATS WHAT I WANT!!

john lennons solo career is just as lame as mc cartneys............mostly dirge and dross with the occaisional corker.........anyway lets deconstruct this "beautifull song"

Imagine there's no heaven . . . No hell below us . . . Imagine all the people living for today. Okay, let's imagine that;
let's imagine six billion people who believe that flesh and blood is all there is; that once you shuffle off this mortal coil, poof, you're history; that Hitler and Mother Teresa, for example, both met the same ultimate fate. Common sense suggests that such a world would produce a lot more Hitlers and a lot fewer Teresas, for the same reason that you get a lot more speeders / murderers / rapists / embezzlers when you eliminate laws, police, and punishment. Skeptics and atheists can say what they like about religion, but it's hard to deny that the fear of an afterlife where one will be judged has likely kept hundreds of millions from committing acts of aggression, if not outright horror. Nothing clears the conscience quite like a belief in eternal nothingness.

Imagine there's no countries . . . Nothing to kill or die for / No religion too / Imagine all the people / living life in peace. Hmmm. A single, borderless entity. No passports or customs inspectors rifling through your luggage. So far, so good. But wait a second. By what laws, rules, cultures, customs, and mores would we all be living? America's? Saudi Arabia's? Iceland's? Cuba's? Obviously, organizing billions of people from different traditions around a common mindset would require some serious coercion that progressives (many of whom will be out in force tonight with lighted candles) keep reminding us is not our prerogative--not even in countries with brutal dictators. And if there's nothing to kill or die for, then there's really nothing to live for, either--not equality, not liberty, not justice. It bears remembering that those young Englishmen who declared, in the 1930s, that they wouldn't fight for king and country did nothing for the cause of peace; quite the opposite. Lennon's own Oxford Pledge may warm the hearts of pacifists, but it's true music to a tyrant's ears.

Imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can / No need for greed or hunger, a brotherhood of man / Imagine all the people, sharing all the world. . . . Let's begin implementing the third stanza's message by splitting up the royalties to this copyrighted song. Mrs. Lennon, I imagine, will be only too happy to share with the rest of us the proceeds from the semiannual checks she receives for its licensing. In fact, why don't we all participate in every revenue stream created by John's invaluable catalogue? No, even that's not good enough. John wants us all to own everything, so we're each entitled to an equal share of not only his catalogue but also every album, tape, and CD ever made--by every artist. True, in such an egalitarian world, there soon won't be any record stores from which to take home recorded merchandise, since the owners will have nothing left to sell and are anyway no longer the owners (we all are). Nor will there be anything to play or record the music on (assuming any artist still wants to record), since there'd be no one to build the equipment. Why should anyone volunteer to work in a factory making hard goods when everyone else is living in the poshest houses and eating at the finest restaurants for free? Of course, housing and food are going to be problems, too, unless someone volunteers to mine the quarries, hammer nails, plant corn, and catch salmon for the rest of us. In John's imagined world, su casa es mi casa. So is su radicchio.

And the world will live as one. One what? Violent mess, apparently.

Imagine that.

he also may or may not have kicked to death a taxi driver in hamburg...................so karma did catch up with him. just not instantly .lol
oh and you guys still believe in Satan as a reality? lol
Talk about brainwashing of the masses :D

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ I think you completely misinterpret "Imagine." I'd prefer that world to this one.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Paul & his father v. Faul & Paul's father

http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/jim_mccartney_comparison/james_paul_mccartney_and_jim.jpghttp://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/jim_mccartney_comparison/bill_and_jim_pauls_dad.jpg

[karol2020]

Karol, you're doing very well. May I ask what country you're from ???

I think there´s no problem. I´m from Brasil, I would like to know how many people from brasil have in this forum... maybe not so much, but it´s a curiosity... and you? :)