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dude111
08-09-2009, 03:59 PM
1. GOD LOVES YOU AND IS SEEKING TO HAVE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent His Son to remove the barrier of sin." (1 John 4:10)
God loves you and planned a wonderful, full life for you. He wants to enter a personal and intimate relationship with you that includes fellowship, inner peace, happiness, guidance in life and power to fulfill His special plan for your life.

2. SIN HAS CREATED A BARRIER BETWEEN MAN AND GOD
“All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.” (Romans 3:23)
GOD is Holy, and cannot have a relationship with anyone who falls short of His righteous character. Sin began when man went his own independent way and rejected his relationship with God. At that point, man became unacceptable to God’s Holy character.
The Ten Commandments were given to show us how good we would have to be if we try to come to God in our own merit. But God doesn’t grade our law-keeping on the curve. He said, “For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.” (James 2:10)
No matter how sincere we are, or how hard we try, or how religious we are, we can never produce a righteousness that God can accept. Even our good deeds are not acceptable in God’s sight, “But we are all like an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags …” (Isaiah 64:6)
So our sin has created a barrier that we cannot remove. Even though God loves you, He cannot compromise His holy character to receive you. Only God can remove this barrier.

3. JESUS CHRIST CAME TO REMOVE THE BARRIER BETWEEN GOD AND MAN
Jesus said of Himself, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)
“The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” (Matthew 20:28)
You see, God so loved us that He stepped out of eternity into time and became a man in the person of Jesus Christ. He lived a perfect life as a man and thus qualified to die for the sins of the world. He then willingly died in our place to purchase a pardon for sins and satisfy the demands of His own perfect justice. When He did, He tore down the barrier of sin that separated us.

4. NOW THERE IS ONLY ONE BARRIER BETWEEN YOU AND GOD YOU MUST RECEIVE THE PARDON JESUS PURCHASED FOR YOU
Jesus Christ has removed every barrier that stood between you and God except one -- you must receive the pardon He purchased for you by an act of your will. You see, a pardon is not a pardon until it is received. There is a pardon with your name on it in heaven, but you must receive it to make it valid.
It is not a matter of how good you are -- or even how bad you are. The issue is, will you talk to God and tell him you receive the pardon he purchased for you. He wants you to come just as you are and confess you can never be good enough for Him to accept.
YOU can change your eternal destiny right now. Wherever you are, just bow your head and tell God you receive His pardon for your sins. Ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and begin to give you a new heart with new desires. He will come into your life and bring a new power and motivation for living you never dreamed possible.
Jesus gave us this invitation, “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.” (Revelation 3:20) The door represents your will.
The Lord Jesus Christ is knocking at the door of your will right now. Just invite Him in and receive the gift of pardon He gave His life to give you. Then thank Him for the pardon and that He must keep His Word.
Don’t expect feelings right away. Some have them, some don’t. The important thing is to simply believe God keeps His Word and He now has come to live in you. Seek out a Church that is true to the Bible and seek to learn about your new life.
“For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21)

element
08-09-2009, 04:42 PM
Ah, you mean the Christian (view of) God?

God loves you and planned a wonderful, full life for you.
How about those that are born with disease and no chance to live like you and me? Fair? Hmm.

Tell that to those people, that they need to believe in your Jesus. Give us a break please! :rolleyes:

The rest could have been copied (and probably has been copied) from a fundamentalist Christian website (hey, at least I use capital C). So what's the point of this thread?

Fundamentalist threads like these and threads with the sole purpose to convert add nothing to these forums in my opinion.

dude111
08-09-2009, 06:54 PM
Hehe trust me,im not trying to convert anyone.

dedicate
08-09-2009, 07:08 PM
So you don't believe this tripe, dude111. You are just trying to incite a riot. Good for you. Bravo.

dude111
08-09-2009, 07:53 PM
No no not at all.......

I think we should all try and love god,there is too much hate in the world...... (No matter what you believe,love should prevail)

dedicate
08-09-2009, 08:00 PM
Maybe I shouldn't call it tripe, as it is possible you believe it or are making an effort to bring people to God. Fine.

I can tell you though, a lot of those verses from the Gospel of John are not for the ordinary person. -- In the begining was the Logos and the Logos was deity John1:1. Could 1 person in 10 understand that? But this book is the basis of a great majority fundamentalism Christianity. Therefore,,, most people are basing their faith on scripture they have barely an understanding of. I know, I don't know what Logos is.

alchemiser
08-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Maybe I shouldn't call it tripe, as it is possible you believe it or are making an effort to bring people to God. Fine.

I can tell you though, a lot of those verses from the Gospel of John are not for the ordinary person. -- In the begining was the Logos and the Logos was deity John1:1. Could 1 person in 10 understand that? But this book is the basis of a great majority fundamentalism Christianity. Therefore,,, most people are basing their faith on scripture they have barely an understanding of. I know, I don't know what Logos is.

Logos = The source and fundamental order of the cosmos.

John15:12 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you."

The godspell of John is wonderful. :)

dedicate
08-09-2009, 11:35 PM
Logos is "source and fundamental order of cosmos"? If true than it is beautiful. Also, I can see how "word" is fundamentally the order and source of the universe,,, but can most people, really?

Anyway, look what has been done to the scriptures: "I and the father are one" and "God so loved the world he sent his only Son" and "Only through me,, etc". -- all from the Gospel of John. Those scriptures take a deep understanding of the source and fundamental order of the cosmos.

miracles
09-09-2009, 01:09 AM
1. GOD LOVES YOU AND IS SEEKING TO HAVE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent His Son to remove the barrier of sin." (1 John 4:10)
God loves you and planned a wonderful, full life for you. He wants to enter a personal and intimate relationship with you that includes fellowship, inner peace, happiness, guidance in life and power to fulfill His special plan for your life.

2. SIN HAS CREATED A BARRIER BETWEEN MAN AND GOD
“All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.” (Romans 3:23)
GOD is Holy, and cannot have a relationship with anyone who falls short of His righteous character. Sin began when man went his own independent way and rejected his relationship with God. At that point, man became unacceptable to God’s Holy character.
The Ten Commandments were given to show us how good we would have to be if we try to come to God in our own merit. But God doesn’t grade our law-keeping on the curve. He said, “For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.” (James 2:10)
No matter how sincere we are, or how hard we try, or how religious we are, we can never produce a righteousness that God can accept. Even our good deeds are not acceptable in God’s sight, “But we are all like an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags …” (Isaiah 64:6)
So our sin has created a barrier that we cannot remove. Even though God loves you, He cannot compromise His holy character to receive you. Only God can remove this barrier.

3. JESUS CHRIST CAME TO REMOVE THE BARRIER BETWEEN GOD AND MAN
Jesus said of Himself, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)
“The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” (Matthew 20:28)
You see, God so loved us that He stepped out of eternity into time and became a man in the person of Jesus Christ. He lived a perfect life as a man and thus qualified to die for the sins of the world. He then willingly died in our place to purchase a pardon for sins and satisfy the demands of His own perfect justice. When He did, He tore down the barrier of sin that separated us.

4. NOW THERE IS ONLY ONE BARRIER BETWEEN YOU AND GOD YOU MUST RECEIVE THE PARDON JESUS PURCHASED FOR YOU
Jesus Christ has removed every barrier that stood between you and God except one -- you must receive the pardon He purchased for you by an act of your will. You see, a pardon is not a pardon until it is received. There is a pardon with your name on it in heaven, but you must receive it to make it valid.
It is not a matter of how good you are -- or even how bad you are. The issue is, will you talk to God and tell him you receive the pardon he purchased for you. He wants you to come just as you are and confess you can never be good enough for Him to accept.
YOU can change your eternal destiny right now. Wherever you are, just bow your head and tell God you receive His pardon for your sins. Ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and begin to give you a new heart with new desires. He will come into your life and bring a new power and motivation for living you never dreamed possible.
Jesus gave us this invitation, “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.” (Revelation 3:20) The door represents your will.
The Lord Jesus Christ is knocking at the door of your will right now. Just invite Him in and receive the gift of pardon He gave His life to give you. Then thank Him for the pardon and that He must keep His Word.
Don’t expect feelings right away. Some have them, some don’t. The important thing is to simply believe God keeps His Word and He now has come to live in you. Seek out a Church that is true to the Bible and seek to learn about your new life.
“For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21)


Good stuff dude:)

miracles
09-09-2009, 01:13 AM
Logos is "source and fundamental order of cosmos"? If true than it is beautiful. Also, I can see how "word" is fundamentally the order and source of the universe,,, but can most people, really?

Anyway, look what has been done to the scriptures: "I and the father are one" and "God so loved the world he sent his only Son" and "Only through me,, etc". -- all from the Gospel of John. Those scriptures take a deep understanding of the source and fundamental order of the cosmos.

What do you mean "look what has been done to those scriptures" Ya cosmanaut!!.

Dont you mean "look what I am trying to do with these scriptures and why cant you see what Im trying to make them say?

No we cant please explain, we arent all space cadets.

miracles
09-09-2009, 01:35 AM
Ah, you mean the Christian (view of) God?


How about those that are born with disease and no chance to live like you and me? Fair? Hmm.

Tell that to those people, that they need to believe in your Jesus. Give us a break please! :rolleyes:

The rest could have been copied (and probably has been copied) from a fundamentalist Christian website (hey, at least I use capital C). So what's the point of this thread?

Fundamentalist threads like these and threads with the sole purpose to convert add nothing to these forums in my opinion.

At least it gets you started on the "what about those that are born in disease?" train. Have you still not figured that one out Element? It's elementry my dear watson. The fastest swimmer wins. He may not have swum so fast he if knew where he was gonna end up mind.

suicidal_martyr
09-09-2009, 01:40 AM
Ah, you mean the Christian (view of) God?


How about those that are born with disease and no chance to live like you and me? Fair? Hmm.

Tell that to those people, that they need to believe in your Jesus. Give us a break please! :rolleyes:.

Well, then whatever God/Higher Power you believe in doesn't seem to be any different, that's assuming you aren't Atheist?

Solution - If people want religious debates make a thread for it. Threads like this here tend to turn into fussing as soon as someone comes in to post their opposing view, which in my opinion wasn't the goal of the thread. Let the people who believe in what they believe commune with eachother for once, sheesh. Not every thread is intended to be a debate people, come on now. We all know by now what it leads too but I see no changes.

miracles
09-09-2009, 01:50 AM
Well, then whatever God/Higher Power you believe in doesn't seem to be any different, that's assuming you aren't Atheist?

Solution - If people want religious debates make a thread for it. Threads like this here tend to turn into fussing as soon as someone comes in to post their opposing view, which in my opinion wasn't the goal of the thread. Let the people who believe in what they believe commune with eachother for once, sheesh. Not every thread is intended to be a debate people, come on now. We all know by now what it leads too but I see no changes.
WOW suicidal Martyr is calming down a bit. Good work :D,

alchemiser
09-09-2009, 02:43 PM
Logos is "source and fundamental order of cosmos"? If true than it is beautiful. Also, I can see how "word" is fundamentally the order and source of the universe,,, but can most people, really?

Anyway, look what has been done to the scriptures: "I and the father are one" and "God so loved the world he sent his only Son" and "Only through me,, etc". -- all from the Gospel of John. Those scriptures take a deep understanding of the source and fundamental order of the cosmos.

Eyes to not see with, ears to not hear with & an imagination to twist anything to evil is human nature without the love of our source in your heart.

I am a master of nothing but never a follower of another human ever!

What is nice though is when my path in life runs alongside others who have love in their hearts & truth as their tongues. :)

deafbred
09-09-2009, 03:18 PM
What is nice though is when my path in life runs alongside others

that statement is more than u know. its Key! (to perpetual motion machine)

i agree <3 tongue truth

danceswithbunnies
10-09-2009, 07:00 AM
Logos = The source and fundamental order of the cosmos.

John15:12 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you."

The godspell of John is wonderful. :)

John was always my favorite gospel..it is lyrical and beautiful, rich in meaning.
Used to read it every night in bed as a kid,.

Logic is also from the word Logos..