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rwederfoort
08-09-2009, 03:58 PM
I do believe all this what I read, but the MEDIA would not say nothing but when you read it, You would understand the TRUTH. Thanks to Amitakh Stanford

There are two main Anunnaki alien groups in covert and overt battles for world domination. Humans are pawns caught in the middle of this brutal alien war. Likewise, the weaker alien groups are affected. They must align with either Reptilians or Vulturites or face the possibility of total annihilation.

The principle of divide and conquer has always been a main aspect of Anunnaki war strategy. This is being carried out through the human population on Earth. The history of this planet has witnessed many such events. The former U.S.S.R. and Yugoslavia are victims of divide and conquer. Even within nations, racial, religious, economic, political, educational and other sub-divisions are formed to cause inner-strife, or division for conquest or control.


Taiwan and Hong Kong served as Western divisions of China, the latter of which China has already reclaimed. Kosovo’s recent declaration of independence from Serbia is yet another example of the divide and conquer principle. China is well aware of the West’s desire to separate Tibet and establish it as a sovereign nation and is resisting this tremendously.


It could also cause China to move even faster in reclaiming Taiwan, which it sees as a part of China.

The Dalai Lama has accused China of “cultural genocide” by diluting the Tibetan population with non-Tibetans, and Tibetans are now rioting in the streets. Tibet has been encouraged by Kosovo to raise the issue of self-government. Underlying the Sino-Tibetan conflict is a long-standing feud within alien communities. Humans have been used to play out this feud under differing issues, all amounting to the divide and conquer principle. There is an important portal in Tibet that aliens are safeguarding, so the conflict could turn ugly as the alien group influencing China pursues guardianship of the portal.

Reptilians are influencing people to actively pursue CO2 reduction programs at this time. There are very devious reasons behind this push of carbon trading, emissions reductions and so on. As long as people believe that they can begin correcting environmental problems in such a slow, deliberate manner, they are lulled into the false sense that there is a great deal of time left to correct things.


This keeps the people from suspecting that the Earth’s remaining existence is very short. It further encourages people to accept extreme weather patterns, severe flooding and many other events as attributable to global warming.

As I indicated three years ago, part of the Olcar war plans involves the superheating and melting of glacial ice around the world. Aliens are now very actively melting ice on the planet and influencing humans to do so also. Whilst the air and water temperatures are rising, they are not rising at the rates represented by the rapid ice melting. In other words, part of the alien war is manifesting in unnatural glacial thaws. As might be expected, the Antarctic ice, anchored to a land mass, is less vulnerable to alien attacks upon it than is the Arctic ice, which is perilously floating atop water.



Thus, Europe is extremely vulnerable to a massive Arctic melt.

Storms around the world are becoming less and less predictable. Part of this is because of global warming, but much of it is being caused by aliens attacking various centers, or by aliens influencing humans to do so. That is, some of the storms now occurring are unnatural.

Aliens are using global warming as a license to cause all types of mischief worldwide. Global warming is being blamed for the recent break up of the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica. However, the ice broke away because of a blast. It was another casualty of the alien wars.

A recent alien battle in Southeast Queensland brought about an unexpected, hard and unprecedented frost. The media reported that the temperatures in parts of the area were the lowest ever recorded in March. Many areas were below freezing, yet it is still very early Autumn in a sub-tropical region. Such events would be highly unlikely were we not in the midst of alien wars. Despite meteorologists attributing the event to global warming, it is a by-product of alien battles.

When the battle was raging in the Southeast Queensland skies, a small alien craft was damaged. It landed on our property, seeking refuge. One of the occupants of the craft spent about ten minutes groaning in agony and gasping for breath. Its cry was heard around the neighborhood and alerted our dogs, who barked furiously.

As the world becomes more and more fragile, many things will happen that would alert thinking people that things are going wrong, but the ruling elite are quick to explain away events with seemingly plausible, rational reasons. They will also restrict the media from reporting oddities so as not to arouse suspicions of how precarious things are. For instance, construction site cranes are collapsing, as are buildings and other structures around the world. Subsequently, many large buildings, bridges, dams, roads etc. will be collapsing all around the world. These matters will be treated as independent events, if they are reported at all.



However, the ruling elites’ explanations for things will eventually become ludicrous to even the least aware people.

The Earth’s icosahedron is faltering due to the fracturing of the Virtual Reality. This results in “hiccoughs” and freak accidents in the air, water and on the land. These are already apparent. Automobile, rail and air travel will become more and more hazardous as the icosahedron winds down.

More importantly, aliens are directing beams at various targets. Sometimes an “accident” occurs that was intentionally caused by the alien activity, and sometimes a vehicle or structure is accidentally caught in crossfire. Either way, significant and freakish damage can occur.

Many things are changing dramatically. Things that used to work will become less reliable. For example, medications for allergies and other ailments will not be as effective for treating symptoms, and more adverse side effects will surface.

The New World Order is again pushing fluoridation of water, this time in Australia. This is part of the ruling elites’ sedation program. Besides, the Greys need fluoride in water supplies for their well-being.



Other toxins have been bombarding the Earth’s population for quite some time as part of the Anunnaki plans.

Many have scoffed at the proposition that fluoride is a lethal poison and have argued that dentists would not recommend it to the public if it were really dangerous. These people have not thought out their positions very well. In the past, the ruling elite have tricked people into ingesting many different poisons over long periods of time. An example of this is the long-standing use of lead in many things that would reasonably be expected to cause the toxin to enter human bodies.

In 1786, Benjamin Franklin sounded an alarm about lead poisoning, pointing out that lead type had injured printers, lead paint had injured painters and so on. He added that lead roofs caused rainwater supplies to be toxic and that lead barrel parts had adulterated rum and spirits.



He concluded his analysis with the following, which shows that despite the dangers of lead, the people kept using it:

“You will see by it, that the Opinion of this mischievous Effect from Lead is at least above Sixty Years old; and you will observe with Concern how long a useful Truth may be known and exist, before it is generally receiv’d and practis’d on.”

Of course, the dangerous applications of lead usage did not stop in 1786.



Lead pipes were subsequently used to supply drinking water, lead was added to petrol, and last year, it was still being used to paint children’s toys. The ruling elite keep their toxins flowing in the marketplace for as long as feasible, especially in third-world countries. Fluoride and lead are just two examples of this.

The Eagle (USA) is now frantically driving the Great Hawk (Europe) eastward. The push is irrationally fast and the territory is extraordinarily dangerous. The Bear (Russia) has been patiently appeasing, but it has given many strong warnings. The Great Hawk ignores the Bear’s warnings. This situation is precarious!

Whilst the Great Hawk pursues its eastward drive, the Eagle is also encouraging encroachment into the Dragon’s territory. The Eagle has spread itself way too far. The Dragon (China) will not succumb to threats of any kind. It will hold tightly to its own. Recklessly pushing the Dragon and the Bear simultaneously is a grave mistake that will devastate the Great Hawk, the Eagle and all its nests.

The West is hiding its recession by propping up the images of corporations. Share prices do not reflect the actual value of companies as much as they reflect the image of those organizations. Deception is everywhere. To allow the Great Hawk to lure more nations into its trap, the economic deception is absolutely critical. Very few countries would knowingly sign up to go through a deep depression led by the West. Fewer, still, would knowingly be a part of the Eagle’s further war plans.

The ENRON experiment has shown the ruling elite how gullible the public and private sectors are. The information from ENRON is being used to guide the ruling elite in how far they can push foreign and domestic investors with blatant share-price manipulations before the shell will crack. ENRON was a micro-level matter, concerning a single organization.



The ruling elite have pressed the result to the macro level and are openly manipulating entire share markets, trying to keep up the image of a healthy economy when they know it is facing certain collapse. As a consequence of the ENRON experiment, many unscrupulous corporate managers also know how much manipulation is possible before they are suspected. This has helped many otherwise weak corporations to keep their share prices artificially elevated to uphold the illusive image of prosperity.



The banking sector has used bonding theatrics to uphold their images also. This is just another chapter of the ENRON game being played out.

Ironically, the economic recession is part of the Reptilian scheme, but the Vulturites are turning it into a much more traumatic event by deceptively keeping share values so artificially inflated. This will cause the Reptilian-planned recession to become a full-blown, deep economic depression. The Vulturites are desperate and are manipulating so many aspects of the share markets that when the Reptilian attack scheme is unleashed it will severely cripple the entire Western economy.



Many public and private reporting agencies are intentionally distributing false information about the share markets and other world events to keep the economy hanging by a thread. The Vulturites are deceptively purchasing “days” of propped up image for the markets, but, the propping costs will soon be astronomical.

As I wrote last December, the American Democratic Party’s primary process has pitted a Vulturite-sponsored candidate against a Reptilian-sponsored one. The fighting seen between the two contenders is extraordinarily fierce and dirty. It is much more than the usual political filth. To unaware outsiders, it would appear that the two candidates would co-operate in the best interests of the party. However, things are not always what they appear to be because of alien influence in world affairs.

The Vulturites are fighting to wrest power from a long-standing Reptilian power base – the Democratic Party.



The American Reptilians are trying to reclaim total control of the Eagle after they have moved their base to China. If the Reptilians could successfully pull this maneuver off, they can swiftly take full control of the world. Thus, the upcoming selection for the Democratic presidential candidate is a major part of the alien wars. If Hillary Clinton receives the nomination, then the Vulturites are in a win-win situation regarding the presidency of the United States.

There are always plans within plans in the alien wars. If the Reptilians do not wait for the American election to happen, the conflagration will erupt beforehand.

The coming days are filled with peril. Hold onto your Will and trust your inner guidance.



They can carry you through the tumultuous times ahead.

namste

majorlee
10-09-2009, 03:31 PM
did u get this from a website? or is this above all your own material?

rwederfoort
10-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Well Nice to know the TRUTH, you have to do your part, and the rest of Others will always come. Its funny when you see how this reality is breaking down.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_21.htm

namste

ic_ic
10-09-2009, 08:20 PM
What are they fighting over?...oil?...gold?....human souls?....:eek:

What resource is only available on this particular planet thay they care so much about?

geewhizz
10-09-2009, 09:18 PM
Blame the ETs for GM moving Vauxhall/Opel jobs to Germany too?

Blame the Grays for Tesco putting the prices up on Yellowfin Tuna?

majorlee
11-09-2009, 12:48 AM
lmao

mind1universe
11-09-2009, 01:59 AM
:DBlame the ETs for GM moving Vauxhall/Opel jobs to Germany too?

Blame the Grays for Tesco putting the prices up on Yellowfin Tuna?



I still blame bush for those points and the other problems:D

I blame Obama for the new problems. I blame the people who speak for these guys.

Just josshinnn:D

(But on a serious note)
But I really blame myself for all of it. We are the blame for these wars. It's none of our business what the E.Ts do with each other. Just because they do thing's behind scenes and hope humanity fall under their whim, doesn't mean we have to or be manipulated any more from this point on.

The truth is your responsible for youself. There is no point picking tables and pointing fingers. Thats what happens in the cosmos. We came here to earth to stop that.

lezenko
12-09-2009, 05:15 PM
I saw something to do with night vision goggles on a documentary on google a while ago and I guy had a set of nightvision goggles and did see objects fighting in the sky Ill try fish it out for you.

xpleet
12-09-2009, 05:19 PM
did u get this from a website? or is this above all your own material?

He is posting articles and excerpts of articles written by Amitakh Stanford and it has nothing whatsoever to do with "Namaste".

Some of the copies of Amitakh's articles on the internet have received spins and are corrupted.
There are several mismatches in rwederfoorts posted material compared to Amitakh's originals, mainly small additions.

Amitakh's work is hosted on www.xeeatwelve.com, www.xeeatwelve.net aswell as www.canng.com

I already told rwederfoort that he's breaking copyright here but he doesn't seem to care. Amitakh has given permission to post copies of her material with link to the website(s).

He's only adding to confusion and contradiction with posting these materials *out of the open* and without source or reference everyone in the Icke forums.

rwederfoort
12-09-2009, 05:57 PM
http://www.geocities.com/allegory_of_the_alien/#Part%202


Please be senceer all of us know that there are ALIENS playing WAR on EARTH its a CHESS Game.

And we are in the MIDDLE of it.

Namaste

majorlee
12-09-2009, 06:31 PM
http://www.geocities.com/allegory_of_the_alien/#Part%202


Please be senceer all of us know that there are ALIENS playing WAR on EARTH its a CHESS Game.

And we are in the MIDDLE of it.

Namaste


no i totally disagree that all of us know this, many believe the contary

there maybe be issues about this planet in a universal political kinda of way, but when u say playing war on earth as a chess game , i think u are totally off track.

war is present on the planet because of the conflicts in ourselves, we need to balance this personally. our brothers and sisters from other worlds have helped us continuely to try and make it through this tough time and stopping us from self destruction. we are very special and our 'fathers' want us to grow with a destiny the same as theirs, which is in the stars and creating life on other worlds, just as was done here many years ago.

ANY race of space faring aliens would never fight amongst each other, they may disagree but no wars could happen, because they know that this way would lead to complete anihilation of the parties involved because there technology is so vast.

rwederfoort
12-09-2009, 07:24 PM
Nice Words, Have you noticed that evry SCIENCE fiction MOVIE as Start GATES SG1 , STAR GATE Atlantis, Start Trek , Voyager 1, Andromenda,

All of the who is fihgting every TIME, the BLONDS against several ALIENS beings, funny.

YOu show it TV , MEDIA, now its going STEALTH in HUMAN Bodies,

Namaste

billyboggs
12-09-2009, 08:13 PM
http://www.geocities.com/allegory_of_the_alien/#Part%202


Please be senceer all of us know that there are ALIENS playing WAR on EARTH its a CHESS Game.

And we are in the MIDDLE of it.

NamasteI believe you are correct! The names are always changed not to protect the "innocent" as we have been mislead to believe, but to continue the chess game, and protect the guilty. My greatest fear is that a good part of our resistance has been duped into believing total love will cure all. Not that love is a bad thing, but that it can and will be used as a weapon in any war......

We need to get out of the middle and decide our own fate. We do not need to align ourselves with any of the factions, except maybe one.

Its a shame this web site has no stars or flags........for I would have given you many.

rwederfoort
12-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Thank you my Friend, the Only Thing I can say I understand the Creators Poin of VIEW to have his new Children see the WAR that is going on, and to a have a better Understanding. SO we can stop this nonce when we ASCEND to a higher Dimension. The New Guardians of the Universe will EMerge from this Virtual reality.

ANGELIC HUMANS,

Namaste

billyboggs
12-09-2009, 09:02 PM
The New Guardians of the Universe will EMerge from this Virtual reality.

ANGELIC HUMANS,

NamasteI believe "They" the guardians, already have. They appear to be pulling their weight, for us, not the creators, not lord god of the bible, but us, the meek, who I prey will inherit this old world. And the more we learn about the truth, the more Human Angels will join in when we emerge (Die) from this VR. So, let them kill us off as much as they like, they are the ones who will pay hell.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWP_-a1P5hA&feature=channel_page

alan3333
12-09-2009, 10:11 PM
TBH i don't get all this Aliens at war stuff...i'm open minded don't get me wrong, but if this was going on i think we would have seen somthing by now?!

rwederfoort
12-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Come on My Friend you see always on TV , SCIENCE fictions, Dont tell me, it just came in their mind threw Channeling?

Funny

billyboggs
12-09-2009, 11:04 PM
TBH i don't get all this Aliens at war stuff...i'm open minded don't get me wrong, but if this was going on i think we would have seen somthing by now?!Maybe you have, but you just didn't know what you were looking at.

What goes up somewhere, must come down, eventually, somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrH6UvsFkrc&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-NTr4cc04&feature=channel_page

alan3333
13-09-2009, 01:50 AM
Come on My Friend you see always on TV , SCIENCE fictions, Dont tell me, it just came in their mind threw Channeling?

Funny

Well i suppose so :) there has to be limits to the human imagination before outside influence steps in..

alan3333
13-09-2009, 01:51 AM
Maybe you have, but you just didn't know what you were looking at.

What goes up somewhere, must come down, eventually, somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrH6UvsFkrc&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-NTr4cc04&feature=channel_page


Thanks for sharing those :)

majorlee
13-09-2009, 02:21 AM
TV series and movies are only shown because they appeal to the masses who are conditioned into thinking a certain way

anything outside the box gets no chance of being aired

although Babylon 5 had an interesting twist to it (huge fan too) and it kind of back ups what ur saying about the chess game

we dont have long until we find out whats going on, we just gotta hold on and make it there first lol

billyboggs
13-09-2009, 05:26 AM
Well i suppose so :) there has to be limits to the human imagination before outside influence steps in..Again, I agree with you, and again, this may have already happened.

Humbly, you are very welcome. You know, at one time in my life I was on the verge of giving up hope for this world. Everything was corrupt, dark. Then, I saw the light, I received a sign.

I will leave you now,hopefully with your hopes renewed, I give you, a Sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHasTTtwNQQ&feature=channel_page

rwederfoort
13-09-2009, 05:46 AM
Thanks for the A SIGN it gave me more ENERGY and HOPE.

Namaste

majorion
13-09-2009, 09:17 AM
Yep, it's all true. Crazy stuff like alien space wars is going on all the time, has been going on for eons, with us earth dwellers never the better. At the most top secret level, or should I say "cosmic" top secret level, a lot of governments know about this.

If religious people knew about this, they'd interpret such an event as a cosmic holy war, in which angels demons and jinns (genies?) are fighting over spiritual supremacy.

But I beg to differ. It is actually the cosmic cycle of life. Get used to it.

Cheers,
Majorion

majorlee
13-09-2009, 10:37 AM
Yep, it's all true. Crazy stuff like alien space wars is going on all the time, has been going on for eons, with us earth dwellers never the better. At the most top secret level, or should I say "cosmic" top secret level, a lot of governments know about this.

If religious people knew about this, they'd interpret such an event as a cosmic holy war, in which angels demons and jinns (genies?) are fighting over spiritual supremacy.

But I beg to differ. It is actually the cosmic cycle of life. Get used to it.

Cheers,
Majorion


where do you know this from my friend? is this your opinion or do you evidence of such things happening

to me the cosmic cycle of life is spread though the stars by peaceful and benelovent loving intelligent lifeforms turning dust into consciousness and this has been happening for infinity. i guess this is my opinion too tho :)

alan3333
13-09-2009, 01:11 PM
Again, I agree with you, and again, this may have already happened.

Humbly, you are very welcome. You know, at one time in my life I was on the verge of giving up hope for this world. Everything was corrupt, dark. Then, I saw the light, I received a sign.

I will leave you now,hopefully with your hopes renewed, I give you, a Sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHasTTtwNQQ&feature=channel_page


That is a great Video :D now saved to my Real Player...

The main thing that bothers me is that with all the astronomers both Professional and Amatuer why are things not seen/recorded every day? Why don't we have HD images of close up UFO's or motherships etc etc etc?

sickleblade
14-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Shits mad LOL

majorion
14-09-2009, 07:32 PM
where do you know this from my friend? is this your opinion or do you evidence of such things happening

There is an overwhelming preponderance of evidence. I just don't have it in my hands :)

Best,
M

kingmob
14-09-2009, 07:45 PM
Amitah Stanford, LOL. I advise everyone not to read her BS. She makes stuff up to bring more visitors to her website.

king triad
14-09-2009, 08:12 PM
the alien war around this planet ended years ago....

majorion
14-09-2009, 08:49 PM
the alien war around this planet ended years ago....

Maybe. But extraterrestrials having their own wars in different parts of the universe, has never ended.

Best
M,

mind1universe
15-09-2009, 01:57 AM
the alien war around this planet ended years ago....
Please stop talking through your ass.

There is still deception and power struggles around you. This means the ego is still attached. Until the ego is let go, then we will see peace beckoning the horizon.



Conflict hasn't ended. Even when you put the weapons down, there is also something call a wound and thas has to heal. This planet is the diamond in the sky that heals the pains of the universe.

majorion
15-09-2009, 04:22 AM
This planet is the diamond in the sky that heals the pains of the universe.

Excellent metaphor there my friend, I bet those aliens call us "doomsday planet", let's go see what those puny destructive humans are doing next!. :)

Best,
M

killuminati18
15-09-2009, 05:04 AM
Reminds me of Lost series war between Jacob and the other guy.

motleyhoo
16-09-2009, 06:55 AM
where do you know this from my friend? is this your opinion or do you evidence of such things happening

to me the cosmic cycle of life is spread though the stars by peaceful and benelovent loving intelligent lifeforms turning dust into consciousness and this has been happening for infinity. i guess this is my opinion too tho :)

The universe seems to be fractal in nature. The nature of life at the microscopic level mirrors that of the next level up, and that level mirrors the life of the next level above it and so on. I'm not a good explainer of this, but nce you have someone who is good at it show you how fractals run throughout nature the light bulb will come on.

In other words, there are wars going on at the microscopic level, and at the level around it, and at the level around it, and so on and so on, until we get to the level at which we are looking at it from the universal perspective. Each level is not really aware of what is going on at the levels outside of itself (eg, think about it from an ant's point of view).

.

billyboggs
22-09-2009, 12:28 AM
Oh my, the links I provided have mysteriously been deleted from my posts. David, do you condone with this type of "Censure"?

skyver
24-09-2009, 03:36 PM
where do you know this from my friend? is this your opinion or do you evidence of such things happening

to me the cosmic cycle of life is spread though the stars by peaceful and benelovent loving intelligent lifeforms turning dust into consciousness and this has been happening for infinity. i guess this is my opinion too tho :)

don't make the mistake of assuming that Aliens would all be "peaceful & benevolent".


Also this is what someone on here was mentioning I think Link (http://edgrimsley.com/videos.html)

king triad
24-09-2009, 04:17 PM
Please stop talking through your ass.



I wasn't sure I was talking through my ass...the draconians tried to attack this planet in 2001...the problems here are human problems at least aliens didn't eat anyone..

nicolaj
24-09-2009, 05:33 PM
The bible already explains this to us..so no surprise here.

alan3333
25-09-2009, 09:12 AM
I wasn't sure I was talking through my ass...the draconians tried to attack this planet in 2001...the problems here are human problems at least aliens didn't eat anyone..

Can you elaborate a bit more on this please friend?

nicolaj
25-09-2009, 10:19 AM
I wasn't sure I was talking through my ass...the draconians tried to attack this planet in 2001...the problems here are human problems at least aliens didn't eat anyone..

Im not surprised at all..do you have any information I could read about it please

the cosmos
27-09-2009, 06:17 PM
Yep, it's all true. Crazy stuff like alien space wars is going on all the time, has been going on for eons, with us earth dwellers never the better. At the most top secret level, or should I say "cosmic" top secret level, a lot of governments know about this.

If religious people knew about this, they'd interpret such an event as a cosmic holy war, in which angels demons and jinns (genies?) are fighting over spiritual supremacy.

But I beg to differ. It is actually the cosmic cycle of life. Get used to it.

Cheers,
Majorion

Great post. I agree entirely. :)

the cosmos
27-09-2009, 06:25 PM
Maybe. But extraterrestrials having their own wars in different parts of the universe, has never ended.

Best
M,

The Andromedans and Alpha Draconis have their own war that they are fighting. This might explain the bangs etc. in outer space heard by astronomers.

majorlee
28-09-2009, 02:49 AM
The Andromedans and Alpha Draconis have their own war that they are fighting. This might explain the bangs etc. in outer space heard by astronomers.

ohh come on!!!!

bangs in outer space???

our infinite universe is by its nature a self continuing explosion according to some!

do u think space faring aliens would wage war with explosions and 'bangs' hahaah sooo damn primitive it makes me laugh and cry

firstly if different factions had problems they would be handled in a peaceful manner diplomatically and if they wanted to 'bang' each other there technology would wipe out most of the area of space in which the 'bang' occured!

now maybe there is some truth to mental war, where hearts and minds are fought on the level on consciousness, this could be a possibiltity

but please just think a little more in depth about matters that are so in the future of our technology and understanding and put yourself in this position, things will become clearer and make much more sense

have fun dreaming and imagining x

alan3333
28-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Lol i was thinking the same thing mate.

time for change
29-09-2009, 05:10 AM
hey mate..

nice read. where are you from in aus? im from noosa, sunshinecoast.. right were all this UFO comotion you described has happened funnily enough. currently in england and have been away for almost 2 years. good to see that us aussie's are waking up aswell. although i have found on my travells that people in european countries seem to be more aware of NWO/UFO'S/ILLUMINATI.

makes me wonder if we can make a change before this 80% world reduction thing too. i hope so..

thanks !

kasalt
29-09-2009, 12:57 PM
ohh come on!!!!

bangs in outer space???

our infinite universe is by its nature a self continuing explosion according to some!

do u think space faring aliens would wage war with explosions and 'bangs' hahaah sooo damn primitive it makes me laugh and cry

firstly if different factions had problems they would be handled in a peaceful manner diplomatically and if they wanted to 'bang' each other there technology would wipe out most of the area of space in which the 'bang' occured!

UFO researcher Ed Grimsley has observed UFOs engaging in open warfare in the night skies over our planet. He has been working on recording his sightings with night vision equipment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fslytp-jT44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrcRbnJeqZ0

rwederfoort
29-09-2009, 07:29 PM
ALiens are not war, These Are FALLEN Angels, playing their GAMES,

THEY know their time is NEAR, the GAME is OVER.

namaste

kasalt
29-09-2009, 07:33 PM
Well I think they are aliens at war. This documentary on youtube is what convinced me:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Jd4jZoKGK5A

rwederfoort
29-09-2009, 08:15 PM
Well I am telling I am not writing to change your ways of thinking, BUT there was GOD ,and His Angels only.

I remember it said ALIENS, and GOD created MANKIND, which were Higher than Angels.

So I still dont understand ALIENS, because Angels can mimmic any FOR< like ALIENS, so they are still fallen ANGELS

Have a nice day

Namaste

kanz
29-09-2009, 08:21 PM
What are they fighting over?...oil?...gold?....human souls?....:eek:

What resource is only available on this particular planet thay they care so much about?

I remmeber reading somewhere about they wanted gold, as they needed it to use it as a shield for there planet or something , who know's?

majorlee
30-09-2009, 01:20 AM
I remmeber reading somewhere about they wanted gold, as they needed it to use it as a shield for there planet or something , who know's?

yeah all this BS gets out everywhere, still going back to other posts i have made, we gotta think more futuristic and out of 'our' boxes!

elemental reconfiguration would be a quite an obvious technology so the old myth of changing lead into gold would be quite real in 'matter' (excuse the pun) of speaking

i will check out those videos too and see what they have to say, i am always open minded about everything but i just cannot grasp that people NOT from this planet would be flying around shooting each other in some PC like game scenerio, maybe there is other explantions, the world is full of unknowns as we know

i also think its quite rare to see a real off world, ET type spacecraft flying around on earth - most have been made by lockhead skunkworks and other advance tech research/developers lol


love xx

majorlee
30-09-2009, 01:24 AM
Well I think they are aliens at war. This documentary on youtube is what convinced me:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Jd4jZoKGK5A


lmao

i thought you were serious b4 i saw this haha

just diggin those starfish guys heheh


goooo STARMAN!

majorlee
30-09-2009, 01:26 AM
UFO researcher Ed Grimsley has observed UFOs engaging in open warfare in the night skies over our planet. He has been working on recording his sightings with night vision equipment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fslytp-jT44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrcRbnJeqZ0



do we get to see any of his footage? or just take his word? what i saw did not really convince me too much sorry

kasalt
30-09-2009, 02:35 AM
lmao

i thought you were serious b4 i saw this haha

just diggin those starfish guys heheh

:D

do we get to see any of his footage? or just take his word? what i saw did not really convince me too much sorry

Ed Grimsley is currently compiling footage for a documentary. As you may have noticed in the videos, Ed is working in association with Jose Escamilla, who has made a number of highly regarded UFO documentaries of his own. You may be familiar with his work. Here is a link to his Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/joseescamilla

limelady
30-09-2009, 03:17 AM
Oh my, the links I provided have mysteriously been deleted from my posts. David, do you condone with this type of "Censure"?

You are new here, so you won't be aware that from time to time our forum software throws hissy-fits, and some links disappear. I have just restored yours. If this happens again, please just contact one of the moderators rather than jump to the conclusion you are being censored. :)

rwederfoort
02-10-2009, 02:53 PM
I have posted this THREAD, but as I keep going deeper, and deeper, because LIFE is like A puzzle you try to find the TRUTH, and all the BITS and peaces are scattered arround because most of the DATA and History was corrupted by them.

BUT if I ask my SELF the qquestion are ALIENS at WAR arround us, NO they are FALLEN Angels, Fallen Human Beings.

THESE FALLEN ANGELS manifets them selfs as ALIENS, trying to create Stories, in our minds for us not to be in the LIGHT, or the Correct Spirtual Path.

THE WHOLE HISTORY was their SCRIPT, But every STORY has to come to good ENDING, ALIENS or NO ALIENS,

namaste

mind1universe
02-10-2009, 02:59 PM
I have posted this THREAD, but as I keep going deeper, and deeper, because LIFE is like A puzzle you try to find the TRUTH, and all the BITS and peaces are scattered arround because most of the DATA and History was corrupted by them.

BUT if I ask my SELF the qquestion are ALIENS at WAR arround us, NO they are FALLEN Angels, Fallen Human Beings.

THESE FALLEN ANGELS manifets them selfs as ALIENS, trying to create Stories, in our minds for us not to be in the LIGHT, or the Correct Spirtual Path.

THE WHOLE HISTORY was their SCRIPT, But every STORY has to come to good ENDING, ALIENS or NO ALIENS,

namaste

The truth is inside you.

Can you guess where.

That's it the heart. Can you please refrain from the crapolgy. Fallen angels "fell" because they want you to be who you are. This universe is a program. Awareness is there to free you. It's not a fight of good and evil. But a fight of freedom. They are not aliens. They are not pretending to be aliens.

The beings as you say are fallen. Came here for a divine purpose. If someones falls after rising to heights most men never reached. It means they cannot rise any further without you. This means the connection with the divine. The universe is unbalanced and it has been for a very long time. This Universe is depending on this world to bring balance and harmony at this TIME NOW..



P.S Sorry they are aliens at war with each other. They are humans at war with each other. They are conflicts all over the cosmos in the lower densities. It's not something special to earth at all.

rwederfoort
02-10-2009, 03:04 PM
So are saying LUCIFER had to FALL to make us sunderstand his mistake much BETTER? There was no one which TOLD him to FALL, It just happpen by him self.

And he FORCED 1/3 of the ANGELS to follow him, and to range a battle in Heaven also to help us spiritualy GROW?

EXplain please?

Did you ask LUCIFER why he did it?

namaste

rwederfoort
02-10-2009, 03:11 PM
IF his Fallen ANGELS is doing the same thing he did do you think you have HARMONY, and LOVE for each other, because every one wants to do what he or she wants to,.

So if every one did what they want do you think it will work?

Each of us has our FREE will to do GOOD and bad, so If i could ask each of those Fallen Angels why to follow a Person, and not be a copy cat and deside your self as a leader.

Most LEADER think they know better that others, we are not GOD (YHWH) which is Perfect in Nature.

Look arround you every things is Destroyed ny Humans and Angels, thinking they know them selfs how to it, and they got their chances, but still wont admit, because of their EGO.

namaste

rwederfoort
02-10-2009, 03:22 PM
All of you which are saying that LUCIFER, SATAN and those fallen Angels are helping us to Grow Spirtuality. IT's to know that, DO you LIKE to TORTURED, and some of those EVIL ways to Feel YOUR SOUL going threw.

Would you like to be one if those People in World trade Center watching threw those WINDOWS , seeing how you lost your LIVE. Or some of them whoi JUMPED.

I would like to ask them ltes TRADE place, would those Fallen ANgels trade places?

IT funny

namaste

mind1universe
02-10-2009, 03:49 PM
So are saying LUCIFER had to FALL to make us sunderstand his mistake much BETTER? There was no one which TOLD him to FALL, It just happpen by him self.

And he FORCED 1/3 of the ANGELS to follow him, and to range a battle in Heaven also to help us spiritualy GROW?

EXplain please?

Did you ask LUCIFER why he did it?

namaste

Nobody told him to fall.


He fell. Nobody fell for him. He did. It's called sacrifice. His presence alone makes all beings in this padrigrim to re think their existence from an self perspective.

So your saying hes battling the heavens, because you read it somewhere. Just stop been so gullable. :rolleyes: They are not even your words.

I suggest you become like most human beings. Question and dicern the reality you live in. That is what time zero is about. That is what 2012 is about. Making your reality. Stop assuming everything you read is fact. There is mis information and lies in almost every truth you read.

So as I said. Listen to your heart and you wont get so confused as to whos who and what's what.


Get to know the light and demon in you. It's your reality. Stop living in fear and delusion over battles and realities you do not understand.


If he didn't fall, you wouldn't have a mind or an existence.

mind1universe
02-10-2009, 04:14 PM
All of you which are saying that LUCIFER, SATAN and those fallen Angels are helping us to Grow Spirtuality. IT's to know that, DO you LIKE to TORTURED, and some of those EVIL ways to Feel YOUR SOUL going threw.

Would you like to be one if those People in World trade Center watching threw those WINDOWS , seeing how you lost your LIVE. Or some of them whoi JUMPED.

I would like to ask them ltes TRADE place, would those Fallen ANgels trade places?

IT funny

namaste

If lucifer didn't exist you wouldn't have any feeling. You wouldn't have free will. Infact you created torture because you didn't know the choice of free will. Love and balance comes with wisdom and growth. The nature of the universe is light and dark. You do not die and your soul continues as always. Torture is a temporary feeling. Yaweh your sidekick is also part of this too.


Don't be just stupid believing thats hes the good guy and the other is the bad guy. This is retarded human fucked up thinking. Good and evil is necessary for human growth in this world. This world was created on the polarity of both using free will. Souls from all over the universe has incaranated here. So dont be expecting the world to be hunky dory. It's what you make of it.

Take responsibility for your life and stop blaming others.


Did you know without Sept 11th we wouldn't be awakening as we are.?;) The people that died in the trade centre didnyt die the body did. They knew their life path before they came here. If everyone was alive and there was no one dieing how would the world work. If Jesus didn't die for you in the way he did, how could you be free.


Oh dear oh dear. You one short thick of a plank............................


I am trying to contain myself while reading your shit. But Someone needs to telll you, to just STOP and think before you post.

rwederfoort
02-10-2009, 04:40 PM
HEY Look at your DEEDs, and way you express your SELF.

I am not here to Change each of us , Are here to do our MISSION mine is different as yours, because i am a CHOOSEN ONE, to be HERE.

So each of us have our mission,

Even dow this is the a ILLUSION, the only option is you Can CHANGE the only Variable in all REALITY, and also that we are ONE,

THE CHANGE has to do with your FREE WILL to change, and be GOOD, that is yoru Spiritual GROWTH,

If I was alsoe to create my Species before giving them POWERS, and wisdom, I would let them first experience all types of condutions, and test their SOULS, because it would make them STRONGER., that those FALEN ANGELS, who FALL for a OTHER angel.

SO to avoid what happen in HEAVEN it was a good PLAN to put HUMANITY threw this TEST angainst the FALLEN ANgels thems slefs, to understand if you go their ways, what will happen to any SPECIEs or any ANGELS who follow people like LUCIFER and SATAN.

namaste

mind1universe
02-10-2009, 05:25 PM
HEY Look at your DEEDs, and way you express your SELF.

I am not here to Change each of us , Are here to do our MISSION mine is different as yours, because i am a CHOOSEN ONE, to be HERE.

So each of us have our mission,

Even dow this is the a ILLUSION, the only option is you Can CHANGE the only Variable in all REALITY, and also that we are ONE,

THE CHANGE has to do with your FREE WILL to change, and be GOOD, that is yoru Spiritual GROWTH,

If I was alsoe to create my Species before giving them POWERS, and wisdom, I would let them first experience all types of condutions, and test their SOULS, because it would make them STRONGER., that those FALEN ANGELS, who FALL for a OTHER angel.

SO to avoid what happen in HEAVEN it was a good PLAN to put HUMANITY threw this TEST angainst the FALLEN ANgels thems slefs, to understand if you go their ways, what will happen to any SPECIEs or any ANGELS who follow people like LUCIFER and SATAN.

namaste


I am aware of my expression and my deeds. I don't need you to check on that. Thank you very much :)

Remember self awareness? No I didn't think so. Try it. Could work wonderful on you.

But "your the choosen one" I SEE. To do what exactly. Choosing to do what. Choosing to be something when your blind? Open your eyes first then choose. You live on a world, like we all do. Come back to earth and deal with this reality.


No spiritual growth is not simply to do good. Spiritual growth is you been aware of your journey. You made the decisions good and bad in your life ALREADY. Spiritual growth is you facing you in all ways. It is you becoming balanced in all ways. It's you on the journey remembering who you are.


It's why moses "turned the staff into a snake" The snake is the universal wavelenght awareness. It is the representation of you on a journey facing light and darkness. The snake is the fear you do not see in yourself. The wavelenght is the snake travelling as it moves in a S shape formation. In Sacred geomtry the S represents you been aware of your journey. The straight line represents from one point to another without awareness of experience.


YOUR FOOLING YOURSELF. big time.:D "im good wow I'm so sexy then" If im so good why am I here. Am I fooling myself thinking that I'm all light without darkness.


Can I ask, since your so bloody inept and out of touch with real reality. What were you choosn to do.?:D