How The Government Has Declared War On White Engli

[nickatnoon61]

Daily Express. 14 August 2007

HOW THE GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED WAR ON WHITE ENGLISH PEOPLE




VALID POINT: George Orwell

Thursday August 9,2007

By Leo McKinstry

England is in the middle of a profoundly disturbing social experiment. For the first time in a mature democracy, a Government is waging a campaign of aggressive discrimination against its indigenous population.? ?

In the name of cultural diversity, Labour attacks anything that smacks of Englishness.?The mainstream public are treated with contempt, their rights ignored, their history trashed.?In their own land, the English are being turned into second-class citizens.

This trend was highlighted this week by the case of Abigail Howarth, a bright teenager who applied for a training position with the Environment Agency in East Anglia but was turned down because she was too white and English.?The post, which carries a £13,000 grant, was open only to ethnic minorities, including the Scots, Welsh and Irish.

Such social engineering was justified by the Agency on the grounds that minorities were under-represented in its workforce, the parrot cry used by bureaucrats throughout the public sector to justify bias against the English.?



Almost every interaction with any public service now leads to a detailed analysis of one’s ethnic status


Though Abigail’s case rightly caused outrage, it was not unique. This kind of reverse discrimination is now rife across the state machine, underwritten by the very English tax payers who are the targets of institutional prejudice.

Although it is technically illegal to restrict jobs to certain ethnic groups, the racially fixated commissars have found a way round that problem by developing training schemes open only to minorities.?Under the 1976 Race Relations Act it is permissible to use racial considerations in recruitment to trainee positions such as the one to which Abigail applied.?

Such practices are dressed up as “positive action” to widen diversity and, in the words of one Labour council, “to overcome past discrimination”.?So?HM Revenue and Customs offers work experience jobs, worth up to £15,900 a year pro-rata,?to?ethnic?minority graduates, while the Museums Association has two-year ethnic minority apprenticeships.



Similarly, Birmingham City Council gives £16,000 a year to “black and minority ethnic individuals” in its “Positive Action Traineeship Scheme”, and a £10,000 allowance to clerical?trainees?from?“the Bangladeshi?and?Pakistani communities”.

Discriminatory?training schemes can also be found in ITV, the civil service and the NHS, which boasts “a management development programme specifically designed and tail ored to the needs of black and minority ethnic midwives”.?

It was revealed last year that Avon and Somerset Constab-ulary rejected 186 applications from white men on the grounds that they were already “over-represented” in the force.?In the same way, London Mayor Ken Livingstone last month refused to endorse a series of nominations for the London Fire Authority because they were dominated by whites.

And whole towns are beginning to suffer state disapproval.?Eighty administrative jobs in the Prison Service have recently been transferred from Corby in Northamptonshire to Leicester?because,?as?the Home Office admitted, Corby’s population is predominantly “white British”, a terrible sin in our multicultural society.

It is a bitter irony that the Labour?Government,?which works?itself?into?such?a synthetic rage over racial prejudice, should practise overt discrimination on an epic scale.?The remorseless focus on supporting minorities has led to a perverted ideology of anti-white racism.?

Almost?every?interaction with any public service now leads to a detailed analysis of one’s ethnic status.?A vast race equality industry has been built up, filled with overpaid paper shufflers, consultants and advisers with little to do except invent new grievances.??

There is an air of the Maoist permanent revolution about their activities. Since immigration now runs at probably one million?people?a?year,?the make-up of society is changing dramatically.?So, in this climate of endless demographic upheaval, the race relations brigade will always be able to invent more work for itself.

Yet anti-English discrimination undermines the central plank of the propaganda for mass?immigration.?We?are constantly told we need vast influxes of foreigners to boost our economy and fill vacancies but unem ployment levels in immigrant communities are so high and skills so lacking that we need to reserve parts of our economy for them.
So if we have to spend a fortune on training schemes, why are we inviting hundreds of thousands of arrivals from the Third?World?and?Eastern Europe here every year?

Economics have little to do with the issue.?The Left in Britain have seized on mass immigration and multiculturalism as a battering ram to destroy?the?society?they despise.?They once sought to change our country through economic?revolution.?That failed with the Winter of Discontent and the downfall of communism.?But demographic change through migration has proved far more damaging.

George Orwell once wrote: “England is perhaps the only great country whose intellec tuals are ashamed of their own nationality.?In Left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution.”

That is now precisely the mentality that predominates within the machinery of the British state. And our country is dying as a result.

[woghd]

As an American, I find it interesting and fascinating that Scots, Welsh, and Irish are considered "ethnic minorities" over in England...over here, you'd all just be whites...in fact ANYONE of European descent would pretty much just be WHITE.

There's a movement show that all humans are of one race. That blacks are not really different from whites, asians, etc...

But we aren't ready for that.

People of middle east descent still fight over race, as do various black african tribes, and now it's obvious that there is even stress among whites.

The overlords of the planet are sure doing a good job of making sure we all keep fighting each other over race and ethnicity, even though we look the same as the people we are fighting. We deserve to be slaves to them if we can't be any smarter than that. We are a planet of idiots.

Archangel

[archangel]

it sure is pathetic, I believe...

you are up against the odds being a white man in todays world. There is special treatment for everyone else but him. I'm not sure why this is happening exactly??

I sure hope that once the NWO takes over they adopt some type of Eugenic Breeding program at least. Whether we are are one race or not, something needs to be done about the poor physical qualities of people today. Only the most physically fit, most intelligent, and people with the least amount of heridity disease should be allowed to reproduce. It would make the world a better place.

[megafish33]

I sure hope that once the NWO takes over they adopt some type of Eugenic Breeding program at least. Whether we are are one race or not, something needs to be done about the poor physical qualities of people today. Only the most physically fit, most intelligent, and people with the least amount of heridity disease should be allowed to reproduce. It would make the world a better place.

I agree, makes sense from the evolutionary perspective...

[_underscore_]

I agree, makes sense from the evolutionary perspective...


Yous guys sound like a bunch of fucking Nazis.

Just whom would decide which people are intelligent enough to breed and how? With those ethno-centric IQ tests? Brilliant.

[archangel]

Yous guys sound like a bunch of fucking Nazis.

Just whom would decide which people are intelligent enough to breed and how? With those ethno-centric IQ tests? Brilliant.


who exactly qualifies and who doesn't....

none the less, it something that should and needs to addressed and done. I'm sure that eventually the kinks would work themselves out.

In nature, the smaller weaker animals don't get the female and the weak animals die off. hence you are left with a race that is predominantly fit for the most part.

In todays world, modern medicine saves people who would normally die off and then those people reproduce and pass on bad genes to future generations. The same thing with phyical fitness. People that are small, skinny, fat, etc all can repoduce where this does not happen in nature.

we need to follow the the universal laws of nature to some degree in a some what civilized way. It is what is best for the human race.

People should not be so selfish and think only about themselves and what they want.

[cruise4]

I believe Archangel is joking, _underscore_.:D

Otherwise extremely stupid.

I have recently seen the anti-english establishment at work up close. Housing priority is given to foreigners 'first'. They jump housing queues. This is nothing to do with Race, ethnic or colour issues - its do do with divide and conquer, de-nationalisation, voting patterns and embedding cogs in the wheel.

[freedomnonfighter]

I sure hope that once the NWO takes over they adopt some type of Eugenic Breeding program at least. Whether we are are one race or not, something needs to be done about the poor physical qualities of people today. Only the most physically fit, most intelligent, and people with the least amount of heridity disease should be allowed to reproduce. It would make the world a better place.

Whoa there, Adolf Darwin. I don't even know what to post in response to that garbage. Why don't you just fill out an application to work for them. We'll call it the "I wish I was bloodline so I'd have an excuse for my conditioned elitist views" paperwork.

Did you ever wonder why people are in such poor physical qualities these days?
Perhaps, y'know just maybe, it has something to do with the fact that our food, our water, and our air have all been poisoned and are only increasingly so?
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that our society conditions and imposes itself on people, encouraging them to ingest wretched pharmaceuticals to solve all their problems (whilst creating a hellish reality inside the body and furthering the destruction of the immune system)? And most of those 'problems' are engineered or just totally non-existant!!
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that our society practically revolves around eating McDonalds while watching American Idol?

And who runs this society? Who creates the norms that control it and limit the minds of all those within?

Does Oneness, Infinite Consciousness, have to manifest itself as Johnny Depp to meet your requirements?

Just like you said yourself:
People should not be so selfish and think only about themselves and what they want.

Edit:
I believe Archangel is joking
I truly hope that is the case, though it didn't sound like it to me.

[archangel]

I'm not joking

I totally support Eugenic Breeding. Only the strong should be able to reproduce.

People most certainly can keep themselves physically fit today. Don't blame the Man for everything.

But even if people do workout and eat healthy, a lot of people just have bad genetics. its not their fault. But it is their fault if they pass those bad genes on.

aside from physical attributes, some people are more prone to illness and disease based on heridity. These people should not breed either.

It seems only logical to Purify the human race IMO. If we are all children of the earth and all one as so many like to proclaim, Then we should do what is best for the Race as a whole.

[_underscore_]

By your logic, archangel, Steven Hawking has no right to live? Correct? Because his parents should have had tests done on him while he was in the womb, which would have (if todays technology was available at the time of his birth) revealed his motor neurone disease. Should Mr. Hawking have been culled? How about hearing loss? Do you hate deaf people too? Because Thomas Edison had a genetic hearing fault. Did you know that Socrates had epilepsy? Do you think Socrates was unfit to reproduce? How about Stevie Wonder, did you know he was blind?

[edelweiss pirate]

In nature, the smaller weaker animals don't get the female and the weak animals die off. hence you are left with a race that is predominantly fit for the most part.

In todays world, modern medicine saves people who would normally die off and then those people reproduce and pass on bad genes to future generations. The same thing with phyical fitness. People that are small, skinny, fat, etc all can repoduce where this does not happen in nature.


You sound like a person with very little experience of life and fellow humans.

Rather hilariously you seem not to have learnt the lessons of history, you, unlike the nazi supporters, have no excuse for adopting such objectionable ideology.

Have you come here to get us? Are we to be culled because we don't fit into consensus society. Are we trouble makers? You bet, come get me sicko!

[lumukanda]

we're not animals, we're people, survival of the fittest does exist within our societies, but it shouldn't, most of have compassion.
eugenics? how very 40's.

[mr_moon]

I'm not joking

I totally support Eugenic Breeding. Only the strong should be able to reproduce.

People most certainly can keep themselves physically fit today. Don't blame the Man for everything.

But even if people do workout and eat healthy, a lot of people just have bad genetics. its not their fault. But it is their fault if they pass those bad genes on.

aside from physical attributes, some people are more prone to illness and disease based on heridity. These people should not breed either.

It seems only logical to Purify the human race IMO. If we are all children of the earth and all one as so many like to proclaim, Then we should do what is best for the Race as a whole.

You poor lost soul. This is just glorified, flowery racism. Are you so blind to your own nature that you have been open to brainwashing and mind programming by people who believe this? Like the Nazis for example? Or maybe even our current governments?

There is a way out of this kind of thinking and it's not your fault that you believe this to be true- i'm so sorry and I Love You.

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

[spiraltrance]

Daily Express. 14 August 2007

HOW THE GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED WAR ON WHITE ENGLISH PEOPLE



nickatnoon61 there are some genuine points raised in that article but be very careful becuase sensationalism like this is 'divide and conqour' in its most subtle and effective form. Its designed to put you into a tribal and divided mindset and prevents a higher universal mindset if that makes sense.

[woghd]

I'm appalled at this entire conversation.

This is a test.

I am being tested. We are all being tested. There are very strong arguments for eugenics and "survival of the fittest". But those theories lack the most important element of all.

The fifth element.

LOVE.

Archangel (same name as me), where is the LOVE in your equation?

Archangel
WOGHD

[smariot]

Eugenics would seem to be the evolutionists version of 'putting all your eggs in one basket'.

Just look at the poor Greys. They've done away with sex and now they're all effectively clones of each other, and now they've been reduced to abducting people for their genetic material, trying to reconstruct the missing bits of their genome that they've lost.

Genetic diversity is a wonderful thing.

[notaslave]

Its a typical mass media racist article designed as always to have us all squabbling amongst each other. Keep the resources in short supply and give preference to one group over another - BOLLOCKS.

As for only allowing certain people to reproduce again that is saying this person has more value than that person. And really where do you draw the line? One might take exception to the shape of your nose, call it a genetic fault and you're out the game. And then how about "policing" such a ghastly idea? Do you suggest sterilisation or abortion - or killing off the offspring, like seal clubbing.

And what kind of society exists in the transition from the society we have now to one of so called purity? Where a large group of people are "not allowed" to reproduce? Imagine that when you are chatting someone up - oh yeah btw are you allowed to reproduce? It's sick.

I have a friend who would probably fall easy into the sector not allowed to reproduce - he's a mathematical near genius, I'd say. So we wipe out his genes from the gene pool. We'd be left with a race of morons.

How many so called beautiful people have you met that are dim as 40 watt bulb?

[notaslave]

There is a link between schizophrenia and highly intelligent parents.

[dondaz]

archangel, you are begining to sound like december.

Devide and rule. My son is deaf in one ear you mindless fucking cretin.

So he should not be allowed to live? You saying he is an inferier being?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/Brad01.jpg

You are a nazi genocidal twat. Why don't you start with wiping yourself out!

[synergy777]

Kevin Cahill

who owns britain, then you might wake up.

[archangel]

I'm not talking about race here at all...as far as white,black, etc. I'm speaking on the human race as whole.

how am I endorsing on Divide and rule??? i'm saying the race as whole is more important than the individual. I'm speaking on Unity here.

Eugenic Breeding is nothing new. Many civilizations of the past have done it.

IMO, people who would not consider this or are against it do not care about their race at all and only about their selfish wants.

Dondaz, I'm not sure why your son is deaf. If it is hereditary then Yes, I would say he doesn't qualify.

My cousins wife does not have diabetes but it runs in her family to a great degree. They had a child and now the child has diabetes.

Eugenic breeding would weed out the bad genetic strans so that they would not be passed on to future generations.

[lumukanda]

i don't care about my race, i care for humanity as a whole.
this is the physical, it's defective, thats the point, there will never be perfection on this plane of existence, and eugenics is sure as hell not even going to get us anywhere near paradise.

[archangel]

i don't care about my race, i care for humanity as a whole.
this is the physical, it's defective, thats the point, there will never be perfection on this plane of existence, and eugenics is sure as hell not even going to get us anywhere near paradise.

Eugenic breeding has nothing to do with paradise. That is a different topic entirely.

Eugenic s deals with creating a physically fit, disease free, mentally sound society. You can't expect to make it perfect immediatley but you need to take a step in the right direction.

[mr_moon]

Eugenic breeding has nothing to do with paradise. That is a different topic entirely.

Eugenic s deals with creating a physically fit, disease free, mentally sound society. You can't expect to make it perfect immediatley but you need to take a step in the right direction.

And go on then- how is that NOT discrimination?

This is total blindness- caring for your fellow man is important no matter how they are- evil or stupid or vicious or weird we're all the same.

This is such a physical perception of reality i'm wondering if you even grasp the concept of another dimension which manifests in this one.

We should be cleansing and healing our MINDS and CONSCIOUSNESS- not our physical bodies because that comes as a result- not the other way round...

[synergy777]

mr moon is one of my fave characters from the mighty boosh/top comedy, lol.

[mr_moon]

archangel, you are begining to sound like december.

Devide and rule. My son is deaf in one ear you mindless fucking cretin.

So he should not be allowed to live? You saying he is an inferier being?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/Brad01.jpg

You are a nazi genocidal twat. Why don't you start with wiping yourself out!

He looks like a Beautiful Being to me- saviour of the World in fact!

Don't get angry- this is the response required to keep this thread burning. Let's put it out with some Air and Water!

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

[mr_moon]

mr moon is one of my fave characters from the mighty boosh/top comedy, lol.

Hehe! Never thought of that- you know i've never watched the Mighty Boosh but i like the Moon...

Jay
xxx

[synergy777]

i'm the moon, its hilarious. you should watch it.

[lumukanda]

Eugenic breeding has nothing to do with paradise. That is a different topic entirely.

Eugenic s deals with creating a physically fit, disease free, mentally sound society. You can't expect to make it perfect immediatley but you need to take a step in the right direction.
see this is the thing, mentally fit, i'm sorry to say so, but i think anyone who thinks eugenics is a good idea wouldn't qualify either on the mentally fit grounds.

[archangel]

And go on then- how is that NOT discrimination?

This is total blindness- caring for your fellow man is important no matter how they are- evil or stupid or vicious or weird we're all the same.

This is such a physical perception of reality i'm wondering if you even grasp the concept of another dimension which manifests in this one.

We should be cleansing and healing our MINDS and CONSCIOUSNESS- not our physical bodies because that comes as a result- not the other way round...

Yes, perhaps there are other dimensions. All the more reason not to worry about having kids. everyone lives on and if your ever reincarnate on earth you will be better b/c of selective breeding.

Care for your fellow man? absolutely, we all should care for our fellow man.

cleanse our minds and consiousness is a great idea. I'm with you. But we should also make the physical world better too.

Mind-Body-Spirit.

Lumakana

Maybe I'm not qualified to reproduce because i'm Crazy haha. but thats fine with me. No sweet of my back.:D

[woghd]

Archangel, (I cringe that we share the same name)

I ask again, where is the LOVE in your theories? Is there no place for LOVE in your paradise of perfect beings?

Archangel
WOGHD

[synergy777]

eugenics is wrong archangel. the most important thing should be the parents love for one another, not their genetics, culture/nationalilty.

[archangel]

I'm not deliberatley trying to upset anyone here. I'm just stating my opinion.

They way I see it is the world is becoming over populated. IMO, It is already over populated.

We need to get the population under control. We can't have people breeding at will untill the population is 16 Billion. At what point should we draw the line? 12 Billion? 15 Billion? 20 billion? The population will keep growing and growing. Its an inevitability if nothing is done.

If you recogize that over population is a real thing. Even if you don't believe it is a problem right now, It most certainly WILL BE in the near future. Then Eugenic Breeding makes logical sense. If you are going to restrict breeding rights it might as well be reserved for those who are most fit to do so.

----
and before anyone starts bashing me. No I do not support depopulating the world and doing shady things liking sneaking harmful agents into food an water.

I don't agree with killing poeple.

however, I do agree with many of the NWO agendas. I just think they are going about everything entirely wrong and doing things for the wrong reasons. Corruption and greed has gotten in the way.

[synergy777]

why don't you help with depopulation, do the noble thing, delete yourself, lol only joking. the world can support the numbers if tesla tech, suppressed tech was realeased/restricted production was lifted. we could have hydrogen cars, free electricity, no pollution, land freed up for farming, etc. its called false scarcity, to keep the prices up. look at opec, they hustle the west, by purposely keeping production levels low, demand, supply, price of inelastic goods. the oil majors in cahoots, control refinery capacity, these two things keep oil at the price its is, with the added factor of vat/tax.why, i hear you ask, well the bottom line is profit.

[archangel]

why don't you help with depopulation, do the noble thing, delete yourself, lol only joking. the world can support the numbers if tesla tech, suppressed tech was realeased/restricted production was lifted. we could have hydrogen cars, free electricity, no pollution, land freed up for farming, etc. its called false scarcity, to keep the prices up. look at opec, they hustle the west, by purposely keeping production levels low, demand, supply, price of inelastic goods. the oil majors in cahoots, control refinery capacity, these two things keep oil at the price its is, with the added factor of vat/tax.why, i hear you ask, well the bottom line is profit.

You do have a point there

However, there still would need to be some type of balance, don't ya think?

Eventually overpopulation will become a problem. Do you not agree? 50 years from now? 100 years from now? 1000 years from now? that is just a blip in time when you consider how long this planet has been here.

[synergy777]

it can only be deemed over populated if we know the true levels of resources/tech, hence our capacity. as we have false levels of capacity, we are not in a postion to determine the accuracy of the overpopulation judgement.

its a scare tactic in my view.

[archangel]

it can only be deemed over populated if we know the true levels of resources/tech, hence our capacity. as we have false levels of capacity, we are not in a postion to determine the accuracy of the overpopulation judgement.

its a scare tactic in my view.

Perhaps Me or you are not qualified to say what is the globes capacity. But I don't think we can deny the fact that SOME DAY it will be a major issue.

When that day comes what should be done?
Should we wait untill that point and then start panicking?
or take preventative measures?

I know these are tough questions and no body wants to think about them but it needs to be addressed.

ALSO something else to consider.
IF the population was lower. it would be much easier to spread the wealth so to speak. Much much more attention could be given to the individuals of Society.

[nickatnoon61]

Perhaps Me or you are not qualified to say what is the globes capacity. But I don't think we can deny the fact that SOME DAY it will be a major issue.

When that day comes what should be done?
Should we wait untill that point and then start panicking?
or take preventative measures?

I know these are tough questions and no body wants to think about them but it needs to be addressed.

ALSO something else to consider.
IF the population was lower. it would be much easier to spread the wealth so to speak. Much much more attention could be given to the individuals of Society.

Hi AA, I also agree with "quality" over "quantity". I read somewhere that the whole pop. of the Earth could fit in Texas comfortably. It seems overpopulated because all the people are piled on top of eachother like Jew York/London,etc.! We flock to the cities to aquire jobs(see slavery) as the Illuminati(Monsanto) buy up(steal) all the land to create genetically modified crops to poison us with! We live like rats in a cage, instead having nature as our environment!

[synergy777]

i hope your soups are gm free, you soup nazi, or kramer will come and see you, lol

[nickatnoon61]

i hope your soups are gm free, you soup nazi, or kramer will come and see you, lol

777,They are GM free but loaded with MSG!!!That is why they are so popular!!!! :eek: Seinfeld is actually a very racist(anti-Goy) show, if you know what to watch for! To start with, almost all of the actors are Jewish, including character actors and guest stars.The Goys are made out to be fools and the Jews, to be heroes! Hows that for anti-semitism, drones??????:eek:

[bigus_dickus]

I'm not deliberatley trying to upset anyone here. I'm just stating my opinion.

They way I see it is the world is becoming over populated. IMO, It is already over populated.

no it's not, this is a popular myth. land is not overpopulated by humans, rather humans concentrate in huge groups and cause problems to each other. big groups, need huge amount of supplies and energy and the result is, nations are depriving water and other supplies from other nations in their national favor, not giving a fuck about people dying "next door" to them.

if the administrations cared for all the people and their well being, you wouldn't think about overpopulation for a split second.

[john white]

We've actually got a member of this forum fuck-tarded enough to be arguing FOR Eugenics?

LOL on a stick!

[john white]

we're not animals, we're people, survival of the fittest does exist within our societies, but it shouldn't, most of have compassion.
eugenics? how very 40's.

1870's actually: google Galton, relative of Darwin, then Lenin. Eugenics is pinned solely on the Nazi's, but really it was an inevitable offshot of evolutionary theory: and shows why materialist scientists should never be allowed to run society, any more than priests should be

[archangel]

1870's actually: google Galton, relative of Darwin, then Lenin. Eugenics is pinned solely on the Nazi's, but really it was an inevitable offshot of evolutionary theory: and shows why materialist scientists should never be allowed to run society, any more than priests should be

many of the greatest civilizations of the past used this concept.

[nickatnoon61]

well...

It sure would be nice if it ever happened..I pray that it does.

I would much rather see future generations be healthy in mind body-and-spirit and look like this.

http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/i/08/91/cd/4a_1_sbl.JPG


instead of being sickly slobs like this with high Blood pressure, Diabetes and Heart Disease.

http://www.randomfatkids.com/fat-feature-nov.jpg

I guess the trend here is that the individual means everything. The Race as a whole means nothing. Just have as many kids as you want. It doesn't matter if kids are born with heridary disease and bad genetics, as long as their parents love them. The earth will never ever ever ever become over populated. Once the NWO is defeated everyone will be free and happy and healthy and we can just hump and have kids, 365 days a year.

Be fruitfull and Multiply

AA, where did you find that photo of me?.....er....the 1st one!!!!:D

[archangel]

I found it on your website!!

Great physique brother :D

[i_am]

Just a thought!

If we lived in a world of genetically engineered people, all perfect, where we would ever learn compassion? and humility? and gratitude? and tolerance?

What would we have? hmmmmmm! Ego! Pride! Narcissism!

[nickatnoon61]

Just a thought!

If we lived in a world of genetically engineered people, all perfect, where we would ever learn compassion? and humility? and gratitude? and tolerance?

What would we have? hmmmmmm! Ego! Pride! Narcissism!

And no-one to laff at!!!!!:D:D:D

[archangel]

Just a thought!

If we lived in a world of genetically engineered people, all perfect, where we would ever learn compassion? and humility? and gratitude? and tolerance?

What would we have? hmmmmmm! Ego! Pride! Narcissism!

Compasion to who?
Humility in what regard?
Gratitude to whom and for what?
Tolerance??

how do you believe these be be worse by Eugenic breeding?

I believe all these things would improve in a "god Man/Super Man" society.

Plus there would be no fatties at the beach or club and everyone you took home was a winner!! :)

[limelady]

Archangel, I think you've stumbled into the wrong forum.
This is the David Icke forum.

I think this is where you must have been headed when you
took a wrong turn.

http://www.nazi.org/community/forum/

[archangel]

Archangel, I think you've stumbled into the wrong forum.
This is the David Icke forum.

I think this is where you must have been headed when you
took a wrong turn.

http://www.nazi.org/community/forum/

why should I go there?
When did I mention this plan should include only whites?

I guess I'm not allowed to have an opinion??

I was simply stating my opinion with logical reasons here. Instead of debate the reasoning behind it, people just got upset at the "IDEA" of it.

I am NOT the one calling people "Fuck-tarded" here. Those were flames toward me.

[nickatnoon61]

why should I go there?
When did I mention this plan should include only whites?

I guess I'm not allowed to have an opinion??

I was simply stating my opinion with logical reasons here. Instead of debate the reasoning behind it, people just got upset at the "IDEA" of it.

I am NOT the one calling people "Fuck-tarded" here. Those were flames toward me.

AA,this forum,alltho better than most, is still just another reflection of the conditioned and limited thought-patterns of most of us.

[limelady]

why should I go there?
When did I mention this plan should include only whites?

I guess I'm not allowed to have an opinion??

I was simply stating my opinion with logical reasons here. Instead of debate the reasoning behind it, people just got upset at the "IDEA" of it.

I am NOT the one calling people "Fuck-tarded" here. Those were flames toward me.

Yes, you're intitled to your opinion, and my post was intended
to show you my thoughts (my opinion) of your opinion. I'm
sure you would agree that even a Forum Advisor is entitled to
make their feelings and opinions known?

I don't like your 'IDEA" of eugenics at all archangel, and I'm not
about to enter a debate with you about this, but regardless of how
you have presented your case, it's still 'nazi' thinking, which
prompted me to point you in the direction of a more appropriate
forum (IMO) for discussing such topics.

But I repeat, you ARE entitled to your opinion.

[archangel]

Yes, you're intitled to your opinion, and my post was intended
to show you my thoughts (my opinion) of your opinion. I'm
sure you would agree that even a Forum Advisor is entitled to
make their feelings and opinions known?

I don't like your 'IDEA" of eugenics at all archangel, and I'm not
about to enter a debate with you about this, but regardless of how
you have presented your case, it's still 'nazi' thinking, which
prompted me to point you in the direction of a more appropriate
forum (IMO) for discussing such topics.

But I repeat, you ARE entitled to your opinion.

well thanks for allowing me to have an opinion. I respect yours but disagree with you. I think your way of thinking is selfish IMO

Eugenic Breeding dates much farther back than the Nazis to many of the greatest civilizations and their "diversification" is what led to their decline.

I see that you do not want to discuss the benefits of it because you do not like the "IDEA" as you put it.

Funny how everyone believes these stories about hollow earth and this advanced race of beings who might live there who supposedly ""PURIFIED"" their race...as A. Byrd reported.

I have no clue if this story is true or not but next time someone posts about hollow earth lets all jump in and call them Nazi aliens who are cruel and un loving for ever thinking of doing such a thing. Who votes that if they ever reveal themselvs whe should boy-cott them for being such meanies?? :)

[woghd]

(This is the third time asking)

Archangel, (I cringe that we share the same name)

I ask again, where is the LOVE in your theories? Is there no place for LOVE in your paradise of perfect beings?
Survival of the fittest is fine for animals, but we are not animals! Animals don't create art, poetry, science, etc.!

Archangel
WOGHD

PS. You do realize that the majority of the smartest people in the world have hanging bellies and great big fat asses, right? Sorry if they don't fit your perfect aesthetically pleasing profile, but you really need to expand your view of what is beautiful in a human being. It's not how we look outside, it's how we are INSIDE, get it? Some of our greatest achievers lived in crippled bodies!

[nickatnoon61]

well thanks for allowing me to have an opinion. I respect yours but disagree with you. I think your way of thinking is selfish IMO

Eugenic Breeding dates much farther back than the Nazis to many of the greatest civilizations and their "diversification" is what led to their decline.

I see that you do not want to discuss the benefits of it because you do not like the "IDEA" as you put it.

Funny how everyone believes these stories about hollow earth and this advanced race of beings who might live there who supposedly ""PURIFIED"" their race...as A. Byrd reported.

I have no clue if this story is true or not but next time someone posts about hollow earth lets all jump in and call them Nazi aliens who are cruel and un loving for ever thinking of doing such a thing. Who votes that if they ever reveal themselvs whe should boy-cott them for being such meanies?? :)
It's all part of the Zionist/Illuminati conditioning to keep us dumbed-down physically as well as mentally/spiritually. A strong healthy body is harder to subdue and control,than a weak sickly one! See how the word Nazi comes in to play, at the drop of a hat? Did you know that term wasn't heard of until way after WWII? Can anyone here, even imagine where we would be without generations of Zionist propaganda????? Did you not know the administrators of this forum are scared shitless of being shut down by the Jew-operated ADL! How many of us can rid ourselves of the images created to sell the HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY, for all it's worth? GOOGLE the PURIM FESTIVAL to see why Jews drink the blood of a perfect Goy.

[megafish33]

Yous guys sound like a bunch of fucking Nazis.

Just whom would decide which people are intelligent enough to breed and how? With those ethno-centric IQ tests? Brilliant.

Woa... fall back there tiger. I had family that died under the Nazi regime.

I simply meant it, in theory, I apologize if I was offensive. Rereading it, I see that it seemed a bit cold and heartless to say so I'm sorry, but please refrain from the personal attacks _underscore.

[nickatnoon61]

(This is the third time asking)

Archangel, (I cringe that we share the same name)

I ask again, where is the LOVE in your theories? Is there no place for LOVE in your paradise of perfect beings?
Survival of the fittest is fine for animals, but we are not animals! Animals don't create art, poetry, science, etc.!

Archangel
WOGHD

PS. You do realize that the majority of the smartest people in the world have hanging bellies and great big fat asses, right? Sorry if they don't fit your perfect aesthetically pleasing profile, but you really need to expand your view of what is beautiful in a human being. It's not how we look outside, it's how we are INSIDE, get it? Some of our greatest achievers lived in crippled bodies!

WOGHD,Animals don't traipse around like spaced out, toxic, zombies, on drugs either! Show some of these fat asses who are so smart????:eek: If I were king there would be a heavily enforced curfew on the fat and stoooopid!!!!NO BEACHES for them either!!!!!! :D ha ha

[_underscore_]

Woa... fall back there tiger. I had family that died under the Nazi regime.

I simply meant it, in theory, I apologize if I was offensive. Rereading it, I see that it seemed a bit cold and heartless to say so I'm sorry, but please refrain from the personal attacks _underscore.


Megafish,
_underscore_ stating that pro-eugenics is akin to the ideals of the National Socialists of 1930's Germany is not a personal attack.

Archangel,
In 100 or 1000 years, humans (if not extinct) should be able to colonize the solar system, thus rendering moot your point of overpopulation.

Thanks,
_underscore_

[notaslave]

Compasion to who?
Humility in what regard?
Gratitude to whom and for what?
Tolerance??

how do you believe these be be worse by Eugenic breeding?

I believe all these things would improve in a "god Man/Super Man" society.

Plus there would be no fatties at the beach or club and everyone you took home was a winner!! :)

Fatties are only considered undesirable in our culture. In other cultures skinnies would be considered undesirable.

In that case is Eugenic breeding in your society going to come from an Anglo-American viewpoint? I sincerely hope not as current "fashion" is to be stick thin to size 0 here. And I dont think any sane minded person would think that Victoria Beckham in her current starved state looks attractive.

But perhaps with Eugenics, the concentration camp look, would be very in vogue?

[nickatnoon61]

Fatties are only considered undesirable in our culture. In other cultures skinnies would be considered undesirable.

In that case is Eugenic breeding in your society going to come from an Anglo-American viewpoint? I sincerely hope not as current "fashion" is to be stick thin to size 0 here. And I dont think any sane minded person would think that Victoria Beckham in her current starved state looks attractive.

But perhaps with Eugenics, the concentration camp look, would be very in vogue?

Hey Monkeywoman, I am actually a chubby-chaser!:eek: I wanted to flush you out fer a date!!!!!:eek :;) Seriously there is the unhealthy looking fat and stupid (see the American junk food industry), then there is the"heavy-set" Husky Ruskies(Russian) women with 5 o'clock shadows!! :eek:Not much of a choice is there????? I was looking at the Felions (BC Lions cheerleaders on the web) I am a Lions fan. Most of these young women are loaded with makeup on their faces because even at that young of an age their skin is so sickly looking! One of them said her favorite food is McDonalds!!!:eek:

[notaslave]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u22/magswozhere/monkey.jpg

^ me. I aint chubby mate but I like people in all shapes and sizes.

[nickatnoon61]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u22/magswozhere/monkey.jpg

^ me. I aint chubby mate but I like people in all shapes and sizes.

Whoa!!!!! I think I'm in love!!!!!:eek:

[cruise4]

"Eventually overpopulation will become a problem. Do you not agree? 50 years from now? 100 years from now? 1000 years from now? that is just a blip in time when you consider how long this planet has been here."

It seems you aren't taking space into your argumenent at all. If it wasn't for all this cloak and dagger rolloks throughout history by retards we would probably be already collonising Mars. So that ends the 'overpopulation' question. The Universe is enormous. Plenty of space out there and plenty of space down here still, in reality.

What else.. oh yes genetics. Anyone who thinks they know enough about DNA, time, mutation or 1001 other factors to forcast what is desirable or what is not desirable in this field is just a self deluded idiot. There are countless examples of things being good one minute and bad the next. No-one is qualified to make these choices.

Lets suppose I was qualified... I'd get rid of Bush and Co... they'd get rid of me. This is called War. You call it Eugenics all you like. It just advertises how you are a mind-control victim.

Still you seem open to looking at the issues so maybe there's hope you'll work it all out eventually.

[eternal_spirit]

Whoa!!!!! I think I'm in love!!!!!:eek:
............

You'll have to fight my avatar for her soup boy!

[nickatnoon61]

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You'll have to fight my avatar for her, soup boy!

I demand satisfaction MonkeyBoy!!! I will duel you, for this fair Baboon's hand!! :eek::D Bananas at 40 paces??????:confused:

[archangel]

Fatties are only considered undesirable in our culture. In other cultures skinnies would be considered undesirable.

In that case is Eugenic breeding in your society going to come from an Anglo-American viewpoint? I sincerely hope not as current "fashion" is to be stick thin to size 0 here. And I dont think any sane minded person would think that Victoria Beckham in her current starved state looks attractive.

But perhaps with Eugenics, the concentration camp look, would be very in vogue?


this thread is getting funny. Well No if your skinny thats just as bad as being fat. Not fatties and no stick figures would be allowed. or any combination of the two hahaha.

This would be final outcome of the selective breeding process.
http://www.fitlist.de/blog/uploads/Meisterschaften/54.jpg

http://www.postavaprokazdeho.cz/users/kulturistika/p_clanky/f_brant_monica_02_l.jpg

of course the above specimens would have to be free of heridary illness and disease :D:);)

[eternal_spirit]

I demand satisfaction MonkeyBoy!!! I will duel you, for this fair Baboon's hand!! :eek::D Bananas at 40 paces??????:confused:
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http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4453/smiliehappybanananv8.gif

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4724/smilieevilbananamj4.gif

[eternal_spirit]

this thread is getting funny. Well No if your skinny thats just as bad as being fat. Not fatties and no stick figures would be allowed. or any combination of the two hahaha.

This would be final outcome of the selective breeding process.
http://www.fitlist.de/blog/uploads/Meisterschaften/54.jpg

http://www.postavaprokazdeho.cz/users/kulturistika/p_clanky/f_brant_monica_02_l.jpg

of course the above specimens would have to be free of heridary illness and disease :D:);)
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These two are uckingfugly yuk! I wouldn't wan't to look like that
bloke and I'd rather not touch her with someone elses cock:rolleyes:

[nickatnoon61]

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http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4453/smiliehappybanananv8.gif

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4724/smilieevilbananamj4.gif

Laffin' my monkey ass off!!!!:D

[nickatnoon61]

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These two are uckingfugly yuk! I wouldn't wan't to look like that
bloke and I'd rather not touch her with someone elses cock:rolleyes:

I agree E.S.!!! Steroid monkeys/freaks....ALL!!!!:eek:

[archangel]

here is a video of my buddy...

Dennis Wolf

Dennis Wolf - YouTube

Yes, good idea. Once we destroy this planet will can simply move on to the next. Hopefully Mars will be ready by then. :)

only kidding. I sure hope it doesn't come to that!!

[archangel]

I agree E.S.!!! Steroid monkeys/freaks....ALL!!!!:eek:

We can just genetically alter people and turn off the Myostatin Gene. No need for steroids then.

Its important that everyone gets big and lean like this. It will come it handy when them damn giant reptillians try to invade us again. We will be able to run them out of town easier.. hahaha

[eternal_spirit]

[quote=archangel;104347]We can just genetically alter people and turn off the Myostatin Gene. No need for steroids then.

Its important that everyone gets big and lean like this. It will come it handy when them damn giant reptillians try to invade us again. We will be able to run them out of town easier.. hahaha[/quote

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Term used in body building repetitons usually spoken as reps! Yes guess if you do enough reps you might be able to do or out do a rep.:eek:

[nickatnoon61]

here is a video of my buddy...

Dennis Wolf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=658KdBcoRL8

Yes, good idea. Once we destroy this planet will can simply move on to the next. Hopefully Mars will be ready by then. :)

only kidding. I sure hope it doesn't come to that!!

Archie, to each their own, but I do not find that attractive or appealing at all!!! The women are even worse,IMO!!! I go to the gym and those who are so into this (muscleheads) are highly imbalanced! mostly UNINTELLIGENT EGOMANIACS!

[bigus_dickus]

This would be final outcome of the selective breeding process.
http://www.fitlist.de/blog/uploads/Meisterschaften/54.jpg

http://www.postavaprokazdeho.cz/users/kulturistika/p_clanky/f_brant_monica_02_l.jpg

of course the above specimens would have to be free of heridary illness and disease :D:);)

wrong, this IS the outcome of intensive training. anyone can achieve that if they decide. bodybuilders when competing, have to lower the fat in their body to a minimum percentage, which means that every move that consumes energy, takes it from the muscles and not from the fat, which is a repository of energy in the human body.

thus, the above pictures are essentially unnatural for humans and by no means representative of genetics of any sort known to humans or selective breeding.

[archangel]

We can comprimise here. haha

However, those above pictures have everything to do with genetics. You can not look like that without elite genetics. No amount of training or supplements will give u that look without the god given Genes.


http://www.wesseloconnor.com/exhibits/images/ritts/01.jpg
http://www.essentuale.com/images/Models/DanielleNagel/DanielleUpside.jpg

[bigus_dickus]

However, those above pictures have everything to do with genetics. You can not look like that without elite genetics. No amount of training or supplements will give u that look without the god given Genes.

how can you back that up?

[archangel]

how can you back that up?

I have been into competitive bodybuilding and powerlifting my entire life. That is elite genetics right there. Only a handful of men on the planet have the bone structure, muscle bellie attachment, and shape to look like that.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/AndreConan/denniswolf.jpg

watch this video

Dennis Wolf - YouTube

There have been very few men in the existence of the planet to ever possess such Pure size and also possess such tremendous muscle belly sweeps and small joints as you see on this guy. No matter how hard 99.9% ever tried we could achieve this.

[nickatnoon61]

We can comprimise here. haha

However, those above pictures have everything to do with genetics. You can not look like that without elite genetics. No amount of training or supplements will give u that look without the god given Genes.


http://www.wesseloconnor.com/exhibits/images/ritts/01.jpg
http://www.essentuale.com/images/Models/DanielleNagel/DanielleUpside.jpg

Arch, u better not screw with me then, because Johnny Weismuller(Tarzan) was a distant cousin of mine!:eek: ES, he was a monkey-lover too!!!(Cheetah) :D Not literally,tho, I hope!!!:eek:

[eternal_spirit]

how can you back that up?
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I think some people can only go so far with weight training. Some bodys respond and grow bigger muscles than others so it may be something to do with genetics. Wouldn't surprise me if it's some weird genetic experiment which isn't a natural thing, but created in a labarotary if they can manipulate genes to grow muscles so big. But seriously have you seen his avatar, is it some Pagan God warrior type thing lol.

But no way without steroids can you look like those pics and there are many bad side effects to taking too many steroids.

[archangel]

Well I guess you can atleast make the first breeding cut then!! :D

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/assets/HB_cover1.jpg

[bigus_dickus]

I have been into competitive bodybuilding and powerlifting my entire life. That is elite genetics right there. Only a handful of men on the planet have the bone structure, muscle bellie attachment, and shape to look like that.

you mean that competitive bodybuilding and power lifting is "elite genetics"?

the reality is not that there is only a handful of people who have the potential to look like that, but many more. but few of them decide to start pumping iron. i've been pumping myself and i am going to start again and i have many friends who have been doing competitive bodybuilding and are currently training. the thing is, most of them were quite bony and disfigured when they were children, which was the main reason that got them wanting to get into it.

your genes provide you with the potential, your mind decides what to do with it. genes don't build your body, you do. and genes don't control our physiology as it was believed in the previous century, rather the mind (belief, behavior) plays a determinative role in the physiology and health of the body.

furthermore, every individual has different characteristics and traits, so we can't put everyone on the same pool and separate the 'strong' from the 'weak', otherwise we would be a globe of uniform hive collective, not unique individuals.

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.sternsgym.com/images/i_leo3.jpg Body building chamion 1950's How come they only got a body like this back then? from this to what we see today. genetic maipulation or? :confused:

[nickatnoon61]

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I think some people can only go so far with weight training. Some bodys respond and grow bigger muscles than others so it may be something to do with genetics. Wouldn't surprise me if it's some weird genetic experiment which isn't a natural thing, but created in a labarotary if they can manipulate genes to grow muscles so big. But seriously have you seen his avatar, is it some Pagan God warrior type thing lol.

But no way without steroids can you look like those pics and there are many bad side effects to taking too many steroids.
I believe their are definitely strains of warrior-type Nordic/Germanic humans who were genetically created to do the "heavy lifting",(work) so to speak. Look at the Mandingo tribes, who were breeded in captivity, for fighting, only as recent as the 1800s! It's plausible. MAN WAS NOT CREATED EQUAL! I think the dragonslayers were/are the higher-evolved Nordics who live in Inner Earth!

[archangel]

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I think some people can only go so far with weight training. Some bodys respond and grow bigger muscles than others so it may be something to do with genetics. Wouldn't surprise me if it's some weird genetic experiment which isn't a natural thing, but created in a labarotary if they can manipulate genes to grow muscles so big. But seriously have you seen his avatar, is it some Pagan God warrior type thing lol.

But no way without steroids can you look like those pics and there are many bad side effects to taking too many steroids.

Yes good post. some people just respond better to weights. Its genetics.

actually there is a gene called the Myostatin Gene. Which regulates muscle growth. There was actually a boy born in germany that was born without this gene. He is in perfect health but heavily muslced for todler they say. I have not seen pictures of him though.

http://www.mounteverest.net/story/GermanSuperKidBecomesSuperClimberJun242004.shtml

They have done some genetic tests on some bodybuilders and some of them pocess much less of the this specific gene than normal people which allows them to pack on muscle mass much easier.

They are actually currently developing drugs which block this gene to use for wasting disease. I'm sure it will be used for sports enhancement as well.

Scientists can easily turn this gene "off" in the labratory and the result has been heavily muscled lab rats.

There is a certain type of cow that does not pocess the myostatin gene and they are MASSIVE. this is NOT b/c of genetic experimentation. These cows just do not pocess this gene.

http://www.unc.edu/~wbollenb/beef.GIF

http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/150/neuro/belgian.blue.jpg

[bigus_dickus]

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I think some people can only go so far with weight training. Some bodys respond and grow bigger muscles than others so it may be something to do with genetics. Wouldn't surprise me if it's some weird genetic experiment which isn't a natural thing, but created in a labarotary if they can manipulate genes to grow muscles so big. But seriously have you seen his avatar, is it some Pagan God warrior type thing lol.

But no way without steroids can you look like those pics and there are many bad side effects to taking too many steroids.

my best friend almost died from steroids. he was going for the championship and he was potent to win it. now he is very fat, because of what he did to his body. this is no joke, and human life is not about competing for the biggest bicep or penis. everyone can train in various ways and be in good shape and health as much as they wish, without having to push it to the limits. the same guy you see in these pics right now, can turn into a huge fatso in a few years time, you can bet your ass on it. and it won't be because of genes, but because of personal choices and way of life.

[nickatnoon61]

Well I guess you can atleast make the first breeding cut then!! :D

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/assets/HB_cover1.jpg

Thats the wrong "Tarzan" !!! This guy is queeeeer:eek:!!!LMAO I'll find a pic of him. Actually, I have an autographed photo of him with Cheetah. It says to Nicky. I was only around 2-3 years old!!! In the photo, Johnny is holding Cheetah. I show it to people and say, I am related to him. They reply which one????:eek: Johnny Weissmuller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://imagesource.allposters.com:80/images/pic/MMPH/175614~Johnny-Weissmuller- Here is a pic of Tarzan.

This is for you E.S.......http://cheetathechimp.org/

[archangel]

http://www.sternsgym.com/images/i_leo3.jpg Body building chamion 1950's How come they only got a body like this back then? from this to what we see today. genetic maipulation or? :confused:

I doubt it has to do with genetic manipulation.

There is access to better food today. Better training equipment. and people are devoting more time to it instead of it just being a "hobby".

Also, more people are training today so u see more possibilites.

A big factor is also drugs. No one can deny this. Back then most of the guys were natural or used very little amounts of hormones just occasionally. It is more rampant in todays sport sadly.

[eternal_spirit]

QUOTE: archangel
actually there is a gene called the Myostatin Gene. Which regulates muscle growth. There was actually a boy born in germany that was born without this gene. He is in perfect health but heavily muslced for todler they say. I have not seen pictures of him though.

http://www.mounteverest.net/story/images/20040624xsuperkid.jpg

LOl great pic

[archangel]

I don't think that is a real picture him.

[_underscore_]

I doubt it has to do with genetic manipulation.

There is access to better food today. Better training equipment. and people are devoting more time to it instead of it just being a "hobby".

Also, more people are training today so u see more possibilites.

A big factor is also drugs. No one can deny this. Back then most of the guys were natural or used very little amounts of hormones just occasionally. It is more rampant in todays sport sadly.


Access to better food today as opposed to the fifties? Do you work for Monsanto? _underscore_ doubts that the bodybuilding champ from that era worked out as a hobby. You just shot yourself in the foot with the drug factor, as well. Archangel, you may wish to look like the aforementioned muscle dudes, and you may want to mate with a woman that looks like a dude, but that is just you. Not everybody needs or wishes to appear like the incredible hulk. Although, _underscore_ does turn green when he gets mad.

[bigus_dickus]

athletics, gymnastics, genetics, all greek words, they come from the greek spirit, for the virtue of a healthy and balanced mind/body. big muscles is not healthy, they take up too much blood. the body needs good balance to be healthy, not taking it to the extreme. that is the sole purpose of physical gymnastics, not the competition, but health in the body and the mind and also friendship.

the ancient greek olympic champions would receive only a bay as a winning prize. recognition of their effort and nothing more. western culture have fucked everything up to the fullest extent..

the motto was "νους υγειής, εν σώματι υγειή" = healthy mind, in healthy body

http://www.show.me.uk/dbimages/chunked_image/discus.jpg

[archangel]

you mean that competitive bodybuilding and power lifting is "elite genetics"?

the reality is not that there is only a handful of people who have the potential to look like that, but many more. but few of them decide to start pumping iron. i've been pumping myself and i am going to start again and i have many friends who have been doing competitive bodybuilding and are currently training. the thing is, most of them were quite bony and disfigured when they were children, which was the main reason that got them wanting to get into it.

your genes provide you with the potential, your mind decides what to do with it. genes don't build your body, you do. and genes don't control our physiology as it was believed in the previous century, rather the mind (belief, behavior) plays a determinative role in the physiology and health of the body.

furthermore, every individual has different characteristics and traits, so we can't put everyone on the same pool and separate the 'strong' from the 'weak', otherwise we would be a globe of uniform hive collective, not unique individuals.

you can not look like that without genetics, no matter how hard u lift, or what ever drug you take. Show me one person. It is a matter of genetics. alot of people can get in shape. a super small percentage can look like the guy above.

There is no one else on the planet at this very moment who has the size and proportions, muscle bellies, small joints and waist that this guy has.

[nickatnoon61]

you can not look like that without genetics, no matter how hard u lift, or what ever drug you take. Show me one person. It is a matter of genetics. alot of people can get in shape. a super small percentage can look like the guy above.

There is no one else on the planet at this very moment who has the size and proportions, muscle bellies, small joints and waist that this guy has.

I agree, but a genetically inferior human can overcome his genes with will/mind power to attain loftier heights! Genes is not an end-all be-all,IMO.

[archangel]

Access to better food today as opposed to the fifties? Do you work for Monsanto? _underscore_ doubts that the bodybuilding champ from that era worked out as a hobby. You just shot yourself in the foot with the drug factor, as well. Archangel, you may wish to look like the aforementioned muscle dudes, and you may want to mate with a woman that looks like a dude, but that is just you. Not everybody needs or wishes to appear like the incredible hulk. Although, _underscore_ does turn green when he gets mad.

access to better food today.

There was no quality protein supplements back then.
People had to get it all from food and milk. Hence people took in more fat calories, and carbs and had a very hard time achieving Precise nutrient breakdowns. also IT is way more convenient now adays will nutritional supplements to get all of your meals in. They aslo did not have access to special carbohyrdate supplements, vitamins, etc. as they do today.

How did I shoot myself in the foot by mentioning drugs??? haha. I have been joking about this for the last couple pages. I personally do not want to be that big, I was just using his picture to get a rise out of people on here.

I am content with myself where I am right now

[archangel]

athletics, gymnastics, genetics, all greek words, they come from the greek spirit, for the virtue of a healthy and balanced mind/body. big muscles is not healthy, they take up too much blood. the body needs good balance to be healthy, not taking it to the extreme. that is the sole purpose of physical gymnastics, not the competition, but health in the body and the mind and also friendship.

the ancient greek olympic champions would receive only a bay as a winning prize. recognition of their effort and nothing more. western culture have fucked everything up to the fullest extent..

the motto was "νους υγειής, εν σώματι υγειή" = healthy mind, in healthy body

http://www.show.me.uk/dbimages/chunked_image/discus.jpg

a balance of Mind-Body-Spirit. There is no reason to not have enough time to devote equal amonts to all three areas.

That statue guy doesn't look like he trains his legs at all though...haha

[bigus_dickus]

you can not look like that without genetics, no matter how hard u lift, or what ever drug you take. Show me one person. It is a matter of genetics. alot of people can get in shape. a super small percentage can look like the guy above.

there is a missing link in our communication here. you probably mean "genes" and not "genetics". do you understand what the word "genetics" mean?

http://www.cccoe.net/genetics/glossary.html

[notaslave]

Those guys have problems. Yuk. They look like they have small appendages too. Most women like the muscle where it counts :eek:

[archangel]

I agree, but a genetically inferior human can overcome his genes with will/mind power to attain loftier heights! Genes is not an end-all be-all,IMO.

You are right!!!

[nickatnoon61]

Those guys have problems. Yuk. They look like they have small appendages too. Most women like the muscle where it counts :eek:

Yes NAS, I have 12 inches,:eek: but I don't use it as a rule!!!!: :D

[archangel]

there is a missing link in our communication here. you probably mean "genes" and not "genetics". do you understand what the word "genetics" mean?

http://www.cccoe.net/genetics/glossary.html

Lets not play word games here. I think you know what im talking about.

[archangel]

Those guys have problems. Yuk. They look like they have small appendages too. Most women like the muscle where it counts :eek:

I have noticed that when you make your legs bigger, it can make your Pee Pee look smaller. :eek: lol

Have any of you guys tried the Penis Pump? maybe that would help?? :p

[bigus_dickus]

Lets not play word games here. I think you know what im talking about.

sure, whatever :rolleyes:

[_underscore_]

sure, whatever :rolleyes:


You and your semantics!

[eternal_spirit]

LOL back to the issue of this thread.....Not sure what the number is but emmigration of white English people to other countries is growing, for those who have the money to leave or a job and life to go to abroad. Many who can't leave due to lack of prosepects in foreign countires and travelling expenses etc would leave the Uk if they had the chance. I probably would.

I doubt an English man in a foreign country would get any benefit or oppurtunities for being an ethnic minority!

The History they teach at school about the Slave trade is full of disinfo. Let me expand on the stuff they don't teach you at school..... Yes it's true many black Africans were brought to the UK as slaves. But the black Africans where selling their own people as slaves to each other and other countries long before the white man did.

The Irish where brought to England to work on the canals, roads and building of railways they were known as navvies ( navigators) many died on the job due to the dangerous nature of the work, worked long hours for litlte pay same as slavery?

At the time the indigenous white peoples of England worked a 16 hour day, many would die on the job, some would drop dead from overwork and malnutrition. The average life expectancy was 26! for the lower classes, young children worked along side parents so they could just about survive on the extra wages. chimney sweeps, coalmining and the cotton mills were some of the jobs they did. Death occured frequentley at work. Slaves?

The point is this....because of the British Empire and colonial rule over many countries 100's of years ago, some of the peoples of these countries believe that the English still owe them something. There are no anti racist laws to protect the white English people in their own country or any other country that I can think of.

[notaslave]

I have noticed that when you make your legs bigger, it can make your Pee Pee look smaller. :eek: lol

Have any of you guys tried the Penis Pump? maybe that would help?? :p

hate to tell you this - but your doing it wrong mate :D :D :D

[archangel]

LOL back to the issue of this thread.....Not sure what the number is but emmigration of white English people to other countries is growing, for those who have the money to leave or a job and life to go to abroad. Many who can't leave due to lack of prosepects in foreign countires and travelling expenses etc would leave the Uk if they had the chance. I probably would.

I doubt an English man in a foreign country would get any benefit or oppurtunities for being an ethnic minority!

The History they teach at school about the Slave trade is full of disinfo. Let me expand on the stuff they don't teach you at school..... Yes it's true many black Africans were brought to the UK as slaves. But the black Africans where selling their own people as slaves to each other and other countries long before the white man did.

The Irish where brought to England to work on the canals, roads and building of railways they were known as navvies ( navigators) many died on the job due to the dangerous nature of the work, worked long hours for litlte pay same as slavery?

At the time the indigenous white peoples of England worked a 16 hour day, many would die on the job, some would drop dead from overwork and malnutrition. The average life expectancy was 26! for the lower classes, young children worked along side parents so they could just about survive on the extra wages. chimney sweeps, coalmining and the cotton mills were some of the jobs they did. Death occured frequentley at work. Slaves?

The point is this....because of the British Empire and colonial rule over many countries 100's of years ago, some of the peoples of these countries believe that the English still owe them something. There are no anti racist laws to protect the white English people in their own country or any other country that I can think of.

Great post there!!! You speak the truth...

One thing that I can't figure out though...Is WHY???

Why is this happening?? what is the hidden plot to make the white guy the out cast of society???

[nickatnoon61]

LOL back to the issue of this thread.....Not sure what the number is but emmigration of white English people to other countries is growing, for those who have the money to leave or a job and life to go to abroad. Many who can't leave due to lack of prosepects in foreign countires and travelling expenses etc would leave the Uk if they had the chance. I probably would.

I doubt an English man in a foreign country would get any benefit or oppurtunities for being an ethnic minority!

The History they teach at school about the Slave trade is full of disinfo. Let me expand on the stuff they don't teach you at school..... Yes it's true many black Africans were brought to the UK as slaves. But the black Africans where selling their own people as slaves to each other and other countries long before the white man did.

The Irish where brought to England to work on the canals, roads and building of railways they were known as navvies ( navigators) many died on the job due to the dangerous nature of the work, worked long hours for litlte pay same as slavery?

At the time the indigenous white peoples of England worked a 16 hour day, many would die on the job, some would drop dead from overwork and malnutrition. The average life expectancy was 26! for the lower classes, young children worked along side parents so they could just about survive on the extra wages. chimney sweeps, coalmining and the cotton mills were some of the jobs they did. Death occured frequentley at work. Slaves?

The point is this....because of the British Empire and colonial rule over many countries 100's of years ago, some of the peoples of these countries believe that the English still owe them something. There are no anti racist laws to protect the white English people in their own country or any other country that I can think of.



ES, It seems we have always been killing/enslaving eachother! This is why i think the human race has been and still is, controlled by non-humans.

[archangel]

hate to tell you this - but your doing it wrong mate :D :D :D

But what can I do ya know???:(

When a girl says she wants 8 inches of pain. I just have to hump her 3 times and then punch her in the back of the head twice. :)

P.S

NickatNoon, Eternal Spirit, and notaslave are my new favorite crew on this board. I like you guys. I think alot of other people here need to calm down. practice some breathing techniques or go on a nature walk or something. To much anxiety on this board.

[_underscore_]

But what can I do ya know???:(

When a girl says she wants 8 inches of pain. I just have to hump her 3 times and then punch her in the back of the head twice. :)

P.S

NickatNoon, Eternal Spirit, and notaslave are my new favorite crew on this board. I like you guys. I think alot of other people here need to calm down. practice some breathing techniques or go on a nature walk or something. To much anxiety on this board.


Yeah!

[nickatnoon61]

But what can I do ya know???:(

When a girl says she wants 8 inches of pain. I just have to hump her 3 times and then punch her in the back of the head twice. :)

P.S

NickatNoon, Eternal Spirit, and notaslave are my new favorite crew on this board. I like you guys. I think alot of other people here need to calm down. practice some breathing techniques or go on a nature walk or something. To much anxiety on this board.

Thanx Arch, The others are probably on the Roids!!!!:eek:but with your math, you'd have to screw her 2.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 6 times, not 3!!!!:eek:

[_underscore_]

Thanx Arch, The others are probably on the Roids!!!!:eek:but with your math, you'd have to screw her 2.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 6 times, not 3!!!!:eek:


Or maybe they have 'riods!

[archangel]

Thanx Arch, The others are probably on the Roids!!!!:eek:but with your math, you'd have to screw her 2.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 6 times, not 3!!!!:eek:

I have had this happen to me more than once. I know what I'm talking about.

1 hump counts as 2 inches
and a donkey punch to the back of the head counts as 1

3 humps = 6
2 punches = 2
you arrive at 8 total inches (6+2=8)

MOst of the time I don't even care if shes pleased or not though. Only if I want to be a repeat customer will I go the extra mile...:D

[nickatnoon61]

I have had this happen to me more than once. I know what I'm talking about.

1 hump counts as 2 inches
and a donkey punch to the back of the head counts as 1

3 humps = 6
2 punches = 2
you arrive at 8 total inches (6+2=8)

MOst of the time I don't even care if shes pleased or not though. Only if I want to be a repeat customer will I go the extra mile...:D

You mean the extra centimeter?????:eek: LMAO:D

[archangel]

You mean the extra centimeter?????:eek: LMAO:D

I always round up:D

[limelady]

Erm, just wondered how this thread got from eugenics to
humping and 2 punches to the back of the head? :cool:

[lemonique]

LoL Limelady. Also, how do you spell hereditary??
Just wondering :D

Lem. XX

[_underscore_]

LoL Limelady. Also, how do you spell hereditary??
Just wondering :D

Lem. XX

C-O-N-G-E-N-I-T-A-L

Archangel puts the genital in eugenics?

[lemonique]

LoL!! Well Archangel is CON something...just can't work out what yet, but interesting thread....I thought it was going to explode there at one stage! well done one and all :)

Lem X

[nickatnoon61]

LoL Limelady. Also, how do you spell hereditary??
Just wondering :D

Lem. XX

You two are sisters of the Citrus family, aren't you?????:eek::confused::D

[limelady]

Indeed we are "citrus sisters"!!

Our other sibbling is an orange....isn't that right lemonique? :D

[nickatnoon61]

Indeed we are "citrus sisters"!!

Our other sibbling is an orange....isn't that right lemonique? :D

LL you look a little "bugged" out lately. :eek: U bin eatin' ur greens????;)

[dondaz]

how am I endorsing on Divide and rule??? i'm saying the race as whole is more important than the individual. I'm speaking on Unity here.


You are endorsing devide and rule through deliberately creating negative issues under the guise of 'I'm entitled to my oppinion.'

We know only too well what your oppinions stand for. You want everyone to have the same physical attributes, a master race!

You have the wrong idea of unity.

Unite in the light of diversity, that's the key!

Eugenic Breeding is nothing new. Many civilizations of the past have done it.

Just because we can doesn't mean we should!

Dondaz, I'm not sure why your son is deaf. If it is hereditary then Yes, I would say he doesn't qualify.

Yeah, it's hereditary. All his ancesters went deaf when they died! So thank fuck for that. I am very happy you are not accepting my son into your master race!

Well No if your skinny thats just as bad as being fat. Not fatties and no stick figures would be allowed. or any combination of the two hahaha.

This would be final outcome of the selective breeding process.
http://www.fitlist.de/blog/uploads/Meisterschaften/54.jpg

The master race eh? And they are going to save the world from the reps?

How the f**k is a muscle bound freak going to fight anyone? Fighting is like a game of chess, you need a brain to do that, not OTT brawn.

You are obviously still controlled by the illuminati system. I bet you are a big fan of Arnold.

Yeah, I read the Education of a Bodybuilder back in the 80s, amongst many others. You are a hero worshiper Archangel:eek:

You need to wake up and worship your spirit!

The overall concept of Bodybuilding is not a sport, the training is sport, but standing on stage posing is a crock of shite 'I'm better than though' nonsense. It's just subjective judging.

I think you need to learn about the principles of the Ectomorph, Mesomorph and Endomorph physical combinations.

I work with weights here and there but MMA is the best way to fight the reps any day!:D

Look at yourself, you're living in fantasy land. A wannabe Olympian god who has to idolise someone with more muscle than thou!

Who the f**k wants to idolise a bloated freak who knows 50 different ways to have a shite in his pants on stage?

Only someone like you archangel!

Bet you haven't posted a pic of yourself in the photothread:eek: Bet you won't either:D

[game over]

i'm 5'8 165 pounds physically fit i just moved to eating vegitarian dish's i imagaine i should move to farm grown organaic food as well i scored average on my iq tests and got a 23 on my ACT but i consider myself superior to most humans just becouse of what i know



just thought i would throw that out there ladie's

also i dont have any STD's that i know of:cool:

[woghd]

Am I the only one who appalled at this entire thread?

I'm appalled that eugenics is still discussed as viable.
Im appalled that Archangel is using the same nick as me, I've been Archangel since 1977, which was probably before this nazi was born. He displays no quality of an Archangel at all. All he does is post pics of the blonde haired blue eyed freaks he worshops.

Archangel,

I asked you three times, a simple question, and you ignored it each time, so I'm going to assume you have no answer and continue my point. I am a Daito-Ryu instructor, and my school is directly over a weight lifting academy. I am short, fully neopolitan, a good 40lbs overweight, and in great physical condition. When I do my demonstrations, there is nothing I love to do more than to call up two or three of those muscle-bound gentlemen and challenge them to restrain my hands and neck. They end up on the floor every time. It's one of my favorite demonstrations to do for new students.

You have no idea what you are talking about. One sumo wrestler would clean up an entire stage of your aryan "supermen"...

Like I said, I'm appalled at this entire thread.

Archangel
WOGHD

[game over]

Am I the only one who appalled at this entire thread?

I'm appalled that eugenics is still discussed as viable.
Im appalled that Archangel is using the same nick as me, I've been Archangel since 1977, which was probably before this nazi was born. He displays no quality of an Archangel at all. All he does is post pics of the blonde haired blue eyed freaks he worshops.

Archangel,

I asked you three times, a simple question, and you ignored it each time, so I'm going to assume you have no answer and continue my point. I am a Daito-Ryu instructor, and my school is directly over a weight lifting academy. I am short, fully neopolitan, a good 40lbs overweight, and in great physical condition. When I do my demonstrations, there is nothing I love to do more than to call up two or three of those muscle-bound gentlemen and challenge them to restrain my hands and neck. They end up on the floor every time. It's one of my favorite demonstrations to do for new students.

You have no idea what you are talking about. One sumo wrestler would clean up an entire stage of your aryan "supermen"...

Like I said, I'm appalled at this entire thread.

Archangel
WOGHD



your an over weight fat ass that know's a few wrestling move's why dont you challenge one of those so called muscle heads to a ehad to head toe to toe match and see if your little hand holding trick work's

40 pounds over weigth isnt healthy buddy late breaking new's

[unique one]

Eugenics is here to stay. There is no need to abort babies or stop people breeding ,since the world is heading to a world of super breeds. The rich will be living to five hundred as they can afford to be selectively bred through gene selection.
Brave New World will come and the rest of the world will become a slave class eventually to be exterminated. After this -who knows? Just make sure it is the white breed who become the super humans.

[woghd]

your an over weight fat ass that know's a few wrestling move's why dont you challenge one of those so called muscle heads to a ehad to head toe to toe match and see if your little hand holding trick work's

40 pounds over weigth isnt healthy buddy late breaking new's

Like I said, I have no problem taking on three weightlifters at once, and have on several occasions, because it makes a great demonstration. As for my health, My cholesterol is low, and my blood pressure is exactly where it should be. My doctor says that in spite of my weight, I'm perfectly healthy. I train in my martial art every day, including running an obstacle course, and I can hold my breath for four minutes. I can do 72 situps in one minute, all that and I'm 40 lbs overweight. I'm also a member of MENSA. I don't say all this to brag, I say it to point out that you nazi-types are all talking out of your hat. If there's anything that's unhealthy, it's pumping your body full of 'roids and blowing a blood vessel out in your brain for the sake of vanity.

Archangel
WOGHD

[archangel]

How are you today? Its a beautiful day here. I'm just relaxing by the pool. Enjoying this beautiful stress free summer day with a few girls. How are things with you??

I actually did post a picture in the photo section :) but here is another one from the back side. different view. Camera phone pic.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/AndreConan/back.jpg

WHERE IS YOUR PICTURE?

also I'm a very big fan of MMA. Great sport. Lotta respect for those guys. My brother is just starting his fighting career and I think he is going to go all the way. He is also a tremendous powerlifter. world class strength.

here is his picture too. He Just turned 19 years old and I'd bet every penny I had he would OWN you like a child in an MMA match.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/AndreConan/jb2.jpg


WOGHD, You should be very proud of yourself. I am happy for you.
You sound like you are quit the fighter.

[woghd]

I'll ask again, one last time. I hope somebody answers, especially Archangel, since it is you I have been directing this question at.

Where is the love?
Where is the compassion for fellow man?
Where is the concern for those who are not fortunate enough to be born "Perfect"?

Even in the healthiest of groups there are always those who are born imperfect. Be honest. Would you have aborted Stephen Hawkings because your tests would have indicated that his body would become hopelessly crippled? I think you would have. What a loss to humanity your system of perfect supermen would have created. Many of our greatest achievers would have been aborted in an unloving incompassionate and unforgiving system of eugenics.

We are not animals, we are human beings. A society must have LOVE if it is to be viable.

[archangel]

I'll ask again, one last time. I hope somebody answers, especially Archangel, since it is you I have been directing this question at.

Where is the love?
Where is the compassion for fellow man?
Where is the concern for those who are not fortunate enough to be born "Perfect"?

Even in the healthiest of groups there are always those who are born imperfect. Be honest. Would you have aborted Stephen Hawkings because your tests would have indicated that his body would become hopelessly crippled? I think you would have. What a loss to humanity your system of perfect supermen would have created. Many of our greatest achievers would have been aborted in an unloving incompassionate and unforgiving system of eugenics.

We are not animals, we are human beings. A society must have LOVE if it is to be viable.

Love would be for your familiy, fellow man, commonunity, future generations, and race.

compassion for fellow man would exist in picking him up when he is down, helping him achieve his goals, accepting his an equal in society, treating him as a brother

People who are born with heridary diseases should still be treated just the same as everyone else. Just don't pass on your bad genes so future souls have healthy bodies to experience their earthly existence.

I don't think Eugenic breeding would have stopped any of the geniuses from being born. The body is just a vehicle which a soul uses to experience earthly life. The still would have came to earth, just had a different body. the spirit is the real person. not the body. Although the genetics due effect the personality and mind as well so this is somewhat of a complicated thing to discuss.

I do believe people are just animals. A highly evolved animal is all humans are. Our conciousness is more evolved and we have free will but animals are devine beings too. They should be treated with respect as should nature and everything should follow universal laws.

all things that exist in the physical world have devine energy with in them.

[archangel]

Science could simply alter peoples genes through Gene Manipluation to created a desired outcome. This will be possible some day without question.

Then Eugenic breeding would not be necessary. Everyone could have kids. The only thing to monitor and control would be the amount of children you are allowed to have in order to keep Population stable.

[woghd]

Well, thank you for your thoughtful reply. One more question, as I find your philosophy fascinating even though I very much disagree with it. Have you ever considered the life stories of those achievers among us who became great only BECAUSE of their hereditary disabilities? IE. Helen Keller or certain blind musicians?

Archangel
WOGHD

[archangel]

Thanks for the reply.

I actually deleted my posts you are referring to. I just don't want to argue with anyone and get called a "fuck-tard". Its just my opinion, and even if you disagree, hopefully you atleast see my point of view a little bit better now.

yes, That is true. Some people have become who they are because of their illness.

But to be honest. I dont think anyone really wishes to live with such things. I'm sure if you could ask one of those blind musicians would they trade their music in for the ability to see a sun rise or see the face of a beautiful women when you talked to her I think they would say Yes. I know I sure would. Would you?? I just think it would good for the human race to illiminate genetic impurities. My cousins daughter has diabetis b/c it runs in his wifes family. I just don't think its fair to willingly pass on these things to future generations. How many lives into the future are they effecting by doing so??

This could be done through Eugenic breeding or Gene manipulation. The latter of the two would probably be the most civilized way of doing things.

But I do believe a restriction will have to be put on child birth eventually too. I don't think it is cruel at all to tell people they are only allowed to have 1 or 2 kids in order to maintain a proper balance between humanity and nature so that ut most attention can be given to every individual on the planet.

maybe I should not have deleted those posts.
CAN A MODERATOR UN-DELETE MY LAST TWO POSTS ON THIS THREAD??

[nickatnoon61]

Thanks for the reply.

I actually deleted my posts you are referring to. I just don't want to argue with anyone and get called a "fuck-tard". Its just my opinion, and even if you disagree, hopefully you atleast see my point of view a little bit better now.

yes, That is true. Some people have become who they are because of their illness.

But to be honest. I dont think anyone really wishes to live with such things. I'm sure if you could ask one of those blind musicians would they trade their music in for the ability to see a sun rise or see the face of a beautiful women when you talked to her I think they would say Yes. I know I sure would. Would you?? I just think it would good for the human race to illiminate genetic impurities. My cousins daughter has diabetis b/c it runs in his wifes family. I just don't think its fair to willingly pass on these things to future generations.

This could be done through Eugenic breeding or Gene manipulation. The latter of the two would probably be the most civilized way of doing things.

But I do believe a restriction will have to be put on child birth eventually too. I don't think it is cruel at all to tell people they are only allowed to have 1 or 2 kids in order to maintain a proper balance between humanity and nature so that ut most attention can be given to every individual on the planet.

maybe I should not have deleted those posts.
CAN A MODERATOR UN-DELETE MY LAST TWO POSTS ON THIS THREAD??

Arch, Diabetes is not a disease, IT IS AN EATING DISORDER, created from eating the wrong "foods"!(see:GARBAGE IN....GARBAGE OUT) We pass down our bad habits/addictions to our sons and daughters! In most cases it is NOT genetic. That is a HUGE lie, created by the PharmaDoctors(see DRUG DEALERS) to disempowewr us, and become dependent on their poisonous drugs! There is a cure for all dis-eases! I am the runt of the litter(4 boys) and I am also the healthiest(but not the strongest) of ALL four! I am 6' 190 lbs.and athletic. I had to try harder, because I am not a natural athlete, but I have good hand-eye coordination! If I played baseball,I would be an 300 hitter, but not a POWER hitter! I also follow a natural lifestyle, and I DO NOT support the MEDICAL MAFIA! I DO NOT use any commercial soaps, shampoos, deoderants,toothpaste, perfumes/after-shaves, etc.I use ONLY natural personal care products! I am also vegetarian for over 20 years, and vegan for almost a year. I look 10 years younger than my age, despite being a drinker for most of my life! My main point here is,most of these unhealthy pasty-faced phatsos you see waddling around are made, not born like that. Now we are getting into almost the 3rd generation of those raised on GM foods and junk,unnatural, and poisonous food, so you will be seeing a lot of deformities in births because of this! Don't forget the garbage food, affects our ability to discern! Why do you think so many cannot see what is right in front of their faces?(chemtrails)If you really want a healthy glow, cleanse your colon and fast regularly, take wheatgrass as a supplement, and stay as natural as possible!

[john white]

I actually deleted my posts you are referring to. I just don't want to argue with anyone and get called a "fuck-tard". Its just my opinion, and even if you disagree, hopefully you atleast see my point of view a little bit better now.


Then its your choice to improve yourself in MORE ways than just your vehicle and un-fucktard yourself

Your point of view was seen with perfect clarity in the first place:

Except by you

[archangel]

I hear you. I too think many health problems might be being caused by what is put in food and water, medicine, etc. I do realize this.

But I really do believe somethings are genetic. I've seen many times where a sickness is present in the grandfather, his son, and his grandson. That is not coincidence. Diabetes can definately are hereditary thing. There is Type I and Type II remember.

I give you alot of respect for keeping yourself healthy and understand what your saying in that you were the smallest of your brothers but worked harder than all of them. The only thing we can control is being the best that WE can be. When you keep the focus on yourself you will always achieve more. I believe that if people really took great care of their bodies, inside and out. These heridary things MIGHT begin to disapear over time.

I am not going to blame the Man though for everyone being fat and unhealthy. Have some some self respect. Nick, Why can you take care of yourslef but 95% of the population can't? what makes u so special? nothing! other people are just lazy slobs.

At work I get jokes made about all the time for always packing my lunch, and eating chicken vegetables, nuts, etc. and having it measured out. I also get ragged on for not going out to eat with the guys to get some Pizza or so forthe. I rarely drink either and I have to defend myself every time I go out and explain myself as If I am weird for not doing so. I'm very out going and get crazy enough in the club. I don't need alchohol to losen up and be social and I sure as hell don't like having a hangover the next day and not be able to eat simply because my stomach is all jacked up and liver is stressed.

I'm the abnormal one supposedly, but the guys who are telling me this, all look like complete garbage. Fat, skinny, etc. They all look horrible for their age and look like old men when they take their shirt of and God knows what their blood work would look like if they ever got it checked. These are my friends and I hate to talk like this about them but its the truth.

I am repulsed by the habits of most people

[archangel]

Then its your choice to improve yourself in MORE ways than just your vehicle and un-fucktard yourself

Your point of view was seen with perfect clarity in the first place:

Except by you

I hope you got some sleep last night?!?!
you still seem angry?
are you constipated?
When was the last time you were laid?
have u tried the meditation thing?

-----------------------------------------
P.S SOGLAD undeleted my above posts where I answered WogHD's questions.

[john white]

I am repulsed by the habits of most people


Now this should tell you a lot more about why you are seduced by lies like "eugenics" than any self-delusion that "it is for the good of other people"

I know you'd like me to be angry Archangel: it would make it a lot easier for you to rationalise my confrontation of your error: easier for you to avoid re-examining your belief

But the truth is: I'm giving you love, with compassion, to help you

[archangel]

Now this should tell you a lot more about why you are seduced by lies like "eugenics" than any self-delusion that "it is for the good of other people"

I know you'd like me to be angry Archangel: it would make it a lot easier for you to rationalise my confrontation of your error: easier for you to avoid re-examining your belief

But the truth is: I'm giving you love, with compassion, to help you

Thanks for the love brother..:rolleyes:

Right back at ya....

[archangel]

I am confused bro....

You are calling me out about pictures on this thread when I never really was discussing myself personally, making claims, bragging, etc...

I have one posted in the members photo section and attached one just for you on this thread as well as my brother too.

but I see that that all you've posted picture wise in revealing who you are or your physique is this picture.

Post up some shots to show yourself off since you expected me to. We are all friends here. :)

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/AndreConan/db---reflections.jpg

[john white]

Thanks for the love brother..:rolleyes:

Right back at ya....

There's more than one form of Heart disease Archangel

You care about your health: I do to

And if you want to know what I am like, you only have to go and see my Vid

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5314

[archangel]

There's more than one form of Heart disease Archangel

You care about your health: I do to

And if you want to know what I am like, you only have to go and see my Vid

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5314

Personally, I don't care to watch your video. I clicked on the link but can barely understand you b/c your talking a million miles an hour and not speaking clearly. You are just rambling. From the looks of the room, it doesn't appear that more than a handful of people even bothered to come listen to you.

YOu have showed me no respect on this board simply for having different views than yourself.

You follow me around what ever thread I'm in and try to cause arguments

You speak about love and unity but attack me b/c you don't like what I have to say.

You insult my intelligence and say I'm not fit to even discuss certain things, refer to me as being "fuck-tarded" among many other insults and low blows your have given me.

I have not insulted you once on this board, except for maybe a slight dig after being spit on by you


Frankly, I do not care to learn any more about you than I already know.
On your video, You don't seem to have any professionalism nor do you appear to have good hygene or even keep yourself groomed.

Lets just leave it at that

[john white]

LOL! No-one ever said speaking truth was a recipie for gratitude

[nickatnoon61]

I hear you. I too think many health problems might be being caused by what is put in food and water, medicine, etc. I do realize this.

But I really do believe somethings are genetic. I've seen many times where a sickness is present in the grandfather, his son, and his grandson. That is not coincidence.

I give you alot of respect for keeping yourself healthy and understand what your saying in that you were the smallest of your brothers but worked harder than all of them. The only thing we can control is being the best that WE can be. When you keep the focus on yourself you will always achieve more. I believe that if people really took great care of their bodies, inside and out. These heridary things MIGHT begin to disapear over time.

I am not going to blame the Man though for everyone being fat and unhealthy. Have some some self respect. Nick, Why can you take care of yourslef but 95% of the population can't? what makes u so special? nothing! other people are just lazy slobs.

At work I get jokes made about all the time for always packing my lunch, and eating chicken vegetables, nuts, etc. and having it measured out. I also get ragged on for not going out to eat with the guys to get some Pizza or so forthe. I rarely drink either and I have to defend myself every time I go out and explain myself as If I am weird for not doing so. I'm very out going and get crazy enough in the club. I don't need alchohol to losen up and be social and I sure as hell don't like having a hangover the next day and not be able to eat simply because my stomach is all jacked up and liver is stressed.

I'm the abnormal one supposedly, but the guys who are telling me this, all look like complete garbage. Fat, skinny, etc. They all look horrible for their age and look like old men when they take their shirt of and God knows what their blood work would look like if they ever got it checked. These are my friends and I hate to talk like this about them but its the truth.

I am repulsed by the habits of most people

Hi Arch. I laffed at you r post "people are just lazy slobs". When I get that way, it is a direct result of my intake. Right now I am 10-15 lbs. overweight, from passive behavior like beer and computing, instead of physical activity. I still do the The 5 Tibetan Rites every day tho.Read up on Raw Foods book by Susan Schenck.She shows before and after pics. Her hubby is a body builder, and after he met Susan and went on a raw foods diet, he only works out 3 days a week, instead of 7, he is slimmer AND STRONGER!!!! GO FIGURE,EH??? NATURAL/ORGANIC IS THE WAY TO GO,Pal!!!:)

[lostinstrangeworld]

Eugenics is here to stay. There is no need to abort babies or stop people breeding ,since the world is heading to a world of super breeds. The rich will be living to five hundred as they can afford to be selectively bred through gene selection.
Brave New World will come and the rest of the world will become a slave class eventually to be exterminated. After this -who knows? Just make sure it is the white breed who become the super humans.

You are SICK.

[cruise4]

"Personally, I don't care to watch your video. I clicked on the link but can barely understand you b/c your talking a million miles an hour and not speaking clearly. You are just rambling. From the looks of the room, it doesn't appear that more than a handful of people even bothered to come listen to you."

You ignorant moron... come on then, lets see your contributions to the spread of truth outside the internet?

John White needs no defense from me but he's one of the most informed people on all the forums out there. Whereas you post 'hate' speech.

That video is OK, I've watched it all. And it was YOU that asked for a picture!
Ridiculous.

[archangel]

"Personally, I don't care to watch your video. I clicked on the link but can barely understand you b/c your talking a million miles an hour and not speaking clearly. You are just rambling. From the looks of the room, it doesn't appear that more than a handful of people even bothered to come listen to you."

You ignorant moron... come on then, lets see your contributions to the spread of truth outside the internet?

John White needs no defense from me but he's one of the most informed people on all the forums out there. Whereas you post 'hate' speech.

That video is OK, I've watched it all. And it was YOU that asked for a picture!
Ridiculous.

If J.W needs no defense, Why are you posting? why are you defending him?

He might know what hes talking about, who knows. But if he wants to do lectures he needs to take some public speaking class and at least brush his teeth so people will take him more serious.

also, I never asked him for a picture. Only Dondaz, whom I'm still waiting on.

[dondaz]

Busy right now archi, got a missus, 3 great kids, a dog, rabbit and hamster as my priority. I will respont to you v soon. He he he.

Here's archi's pm to me:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif dondaz
I have several pictures posted for you since you insisted on calling me out...

I am calling you out now and asking you to do the same.

Only fair that what you expect from me you should expect from yourself.

don't be a hypocrit dondaz

get it done
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THETONIC:
Archangel - Stop trying to flex your avatars pecs and think outside your box... we choose to use our resources for feeding Cows ( NWO SLAUGHTERFEST ) which im sure you partake so you can keep flexing your avatars pecs..... YOU WILL GET YOURS SOON ENOUGH!
John White
Then its your choice to improve yourself in MORE ways than just your vehicle and un-fucktard yourself

Here's my reply:rolleyes:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif Re: dondaz hey archangel,

great to see someone with a bit of fire in them for a change, you obviously like a challenge. It's all about the ego mate, I have one too.:rolleyes:

I'm just in the process of making a tribute movie on Aaron Russo, I'm gutted he died, so I'm a little busy right now.

However, I can assure you I will take a gander of the pics you posted tomorrow and answer accordingly;)

I posted ages ago in the photothread, about page 50/51/52, it's artistic, not narcisistic:eek:

Also, you might want to follow in your brothers footsteps if you plan on fighting those damn reptilians bare handed.:D

I recomend kick/boxing/ground/submission styles, works for me!

See you in the forum mate,

dondaz:)

As archi's hero is fond of saying 'I'll be back!'

[archangel]

Busy right now archi, got a missus, 3 great kids, a dog, rabbit and hamster as my priority. I will respont to you v soon. He he he.

Here's archi's pm to me:D



Here's my reply:rolleyes:



As archi's hero is fond of saying 'I'll be back!'

well I will be eagerly waiting. I expect to very impressed. You can call me out implying I'm some kind of bumb who won't post pictures but you have none posted.

I want to see some pics of this tremendous physique that you have. or perhaps a video or even a picture of proof that you are a real MMA fighter.

Frankly I think you are neither, so prove me wrong.

[joss classey]

we need to stop thinking in terms of colour, class and nationality

let us focus on what we all have in common

let us focus on the fact that WE'RE ALL FUCKING HUMAN

i hate this division between us all

[oceanwave]

it sure is pathetic, I believe...

you are up against the odds being a white man in todays world. There is special treatment for everyone else but him. I'm not sure why this is happening exactly??

I sure hope that once the NWO takes over they adopt some type of Eugenic Breeding program at least. Whether we are are one race or not, something needs to be done about the poor physical qualities of people today. Only the most physically fit, most intelligent, and people with the least amount of heridity disease should be allowed to reproduce. It would make the world a better place.

ever seen this film?

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2345/gattacaau2.jpg

[carlg1212]

Yous guys sound like a bunch of fucking Nazis.

Just whom would decide which people are intelligent enough to breed and how? With those ethno-centric IQ tests? Brilliant.

I don't think humans deserve to be here. We've destroyed the planet. Not the illuminati, not satanic whatevers, it's us, we let it happen.

[mr_moon]

How are you today? Its a beautiful day here. I'm just relaxing by the pool. Enjoying this beautiful stress free summer day with a few girls. How are things with you??

I actually did post a picture in the photo section :) but here is another one from the back side. different view. Camera phone pic.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/AndreConan/back.jpg

WHERE IS YOUR PICTURE?

also I'm a very big fan of MMA. Great sport. Lotta respect for those guys. My brother is just starting his fighting career and I think he is going to go all the way. He is also a tremendous powerlifter. world class strength.

here is his picture too. He Just turned 19 years old and I'd bet every penny I had he would OWN you like a child in an MMA match.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/AndreConan/jb2.jpg


WOGHD, You should be very proud of yourself. I am happy for you.
You sound like you are quit the fighter.

I'll keep this simple.

David and Goliath. Ever read the story? It's interesting...

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

[infinitely free]

'White people in UK's cities 'likely to be a minority in 20 years' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=478910&in_page_id=1770)'

This article is from Daily Mail, and is featured in David Icke news.

[cycles of time]

it sure is pathetic, I believe...

you are up against the odds being a white man in todays world. There is special treatment for everyone else but him. I'm not sure why this is happening exactly??

I sure hope that once the NWO takes over they adopt some type of Eugenic Breeding program at least. Whether we are are one race or not, something needs to be done about the poor physical qualities of people today. Only the most physically fit, most intelligent, and people with the least amount of heridity disease should be allowed to reproduce. It would make the world a better place.



http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/153/837331~Demolition-Man-Posters.jpg

[cycles of time]

eugenics goes against evolution,because evolution is based on randomness ,

randomness of situation,climate,natural disasters,predators,prey,time of day,even emotional state.


natural selection/randomness is evolution, and eugenics/planned is unnatural selection.