Today's news: 2012, making sense of it all

[archemis]

Hi all,

Here is an excellent hypothesis on what has happened, what is happening now and what is going to happen. . . also, why it has to happen.

There are many prophecies, having a common thread, of apocolypse or ascension, depending upon which camp you reside. All of the prophecies, bar 1, give defining events but no specific timeline. The Mayan calendar and writings do give timeline/s that can be correlated to individual 'past', present and 'future' events.

Nothing is random / chaos. Everything is following a greater plan, designed for the spiritual development / ascension of human beings.

Dr. Carl Calleman is an expert in the Mayan calendar and his work is founded in association with current Mayan elders, and in events / prophecies which have already occurred, (hence substantiating the timeline and tallying our history of events, gregorian calendar and the Mayan calendar). It's not just another vague New Age focus of the Dec 2012 zero point.


For people wanting prophecy 'proof', this is worth checking out. For those who don't need proof and just 'know', it is still a good reference because it will prepare you for the energy shifts ahead and gives you a timeline to work by, so you are better prepared (practically and spiritually) for events.

My interest in the Mayan writings / artifacts goes back aroung 15 years and, after reading Dr. Calleman's work and speaking personally to him, I would now like to circulate this information.


Part 1 is here and it has several parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r41emghwunU

Dr Calleman's website is here:
http://www.calleman.com/

love
A x

[boy better know]

What will you do when nothing happens in 2012? Start talking about 2022?

Boy better know you shouldn't believe the hype.

[archemis]

I don't normally enter into debate because everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as stated in my signature. However, I think that Dec 2012 is not the correct date, based on my own research / experiences and the Mayan elders and Dr Calleman. I'm actually well out on a limb by thinking this because most of the 'hype' is centric to a 2012 zero point. So, if nothing happens at the end of 2011, then I will look at 2022 .... :)

love
A x

[bsmurph83]

Hi all,

Here is an excellent hypothesis on what has happened, what is happening now and what is going to happen. . . also, why it has to happen.

There are many prophecies, having a common thread, of apocolypse or ascension, depending upon which camp you reside. All of the prophecies, bar 1, give defining events but no specific timeline. The Mayan calendar and writings do give timeline/s that can be correlated to individual 'past', present and 'future' events.

Nothing is random / chaos. Everything is following a greater plan, designed for the spiritual development / ascension of human beings.

Dr. Carl Calleman is an expert in the Mayan calendar and his work is founded in association with current Mayan elders, and in events / prophecies which have already occurred, (hence substantiating the timeline and tallying our history of events, gregorian calendar and the Mayan calendar). It's not just another vague New Age focus of the Dec 2012 zero point.


For people wanting prophecy 'proof', this is worth checking out. For those who don't need proof and just 'know', it is still a good reference because it will prepare you for the energy shifts ahead and gives you a timeline to work by, so you are better prepared (practically and spiritually) for events.

My interest in the Mayan writings / artifacts goes back aroung 15 years and, after reading Dr. Calleman's work and speaking personally to him, I would now like to circulate this information.


Part 1 is here and it has several parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r41emghwunU

Dr Calleman's website is here:
http://www.calleman.com/

love
A x

i plan to watch this in the morning in 'offpeak' d/l time, cheers, A.

what is your timeframe for the culmination of events if not Dec 2012? clearly there IS something happening, but i'm curious as to the various dates people pinpoint. you got one? *sighs at A's avatar* :D

[garyhartill]

watch callerman talk of money & calender and you will see the similarities to what is & will happen with the global elite :(:eek:

[chaozine]

No point in waiting for what's going to happen in 2012 imo. The happening is happening right now.

[archemis]

i plan to watch this in the morning in 'offpeak' d/l time, cheers, A.

what is your timeframe for the culmination of events if not Dec 2012? clearly there IS something happening, but i'm curious as to the various dates people pinpoint. you got one? *sighs at A's avatar* :D

Thank you for your compliment, that was taken on a good hair day *blush*

My timeframe is the same as Dr. Calleman's, October 2011. The current overlay of the 260 day Tzolkin and our 365 day Gregorian is in error also the Mayan cycle must end on 13 Ahau.. . the 2012 date does not tally with either.

See Dr Calleman's report at:

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/risk_of_2012.htm

A
x

[echoes_of_a_dream]

I look at 2012 as more of a symbol than a date, as other people have said what we are collectively moving towards is already happening and the intensity of the changes is getting more and more psychotic.

I'll just throw in my two cents to the bucket on a few different angles...

I keep an open mind on the whole thing. I look at it as a cosmic birthing of the Earth from her "quarantine" if you like. As other people have pointed out Gaia is a living being and 26,000 years could be a period of gestation, it also happens to coincide with the average life span of a human being 26,000 days (71 years).

I find it no coincidence that at the point of certain planetary annihilation of many different fronts we are collective waking from our slumber and evolving beyond what we think we are. Just like Einstein said "problems cannot be solved by the same level of consciousness that created them".

I heard Drunvalo Melchizedek say in his latest video that the Mayans believe the event window for the end of this cycle is between 2007-2015 and admit themselves that it is unlikely anything will happen on 21st December, 2012.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/yugas.jpg

I agree with you archemis about Carl Calleman but also Ian Lungold is another researcher worth mentioning.

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/educational/watch/v319921MJxXY26x

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/educational/watch/v319921MJxXY26x

Aswell as the video posted by archemis also check out these articles from Calleman's site:

Why the Creation Cycles do not end December 21 2012, but October 28, 2011 (http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/end_of_creationcycles.htm)

The risks of believing that the Mayan calendar ends December 21, 2012! (calleman.com/content/articles/risk_of_2012.htm)

I also frequently listen to Clif High's web bot update (youtube.com/webbotproject)s and he mentions that we are entering a more energized area of space which he calls "the big squeeze" which is affecting the solar system and ultimately all living things. According to some "new age" beliefs, we enter the photon belt of the Pleiades cluster in 2011. remember reading recently that scientists found that we are not part of the Milky Way, we are in a separate Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy that is in the process of being swallowed by the Milky Way...

http://www.viewzone.com/milkyway.html

I also find Terence McKenna's ideas of Timewave Zero fascinating, and the notion of us experiencing fractal time makes perfect sense in a holographic universe. It is like time appears to be accelerating because our consciousness is becoming more aware of itself and we are manifesting things faster ("increased connectiveness" as McKenna put it).

In Bringers of the Dawn by Barbara Marciniak she says how the Prime Creator became aware of a tyranny in a future timeline for Earth and intervened by changing our timeline so that our reality merges with that of the Reptilians. She says we are being prepared for this and that from facing them we will know the complexity of the universe, of our past and our "self" which will enable us to "ascend" into a new dimension of existence. I am open to this too but I feel that the increase in UFOs, paranormal and supernatural events etc is a result of dimensions are overlapping as we approach the singularity. It is like all time lines converge, or the centre point of the mobius strip...

http://richardwiseman.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/escher-mobius_strip_ii.jpg

The human brain has a universe within it, we think that our thoughts all come from the same source, but they don't. They are like different egos trying to influence us in different ways. Like Robert Anton Wilson said he thought he was channelling a being from Sirius but then he came to the conclusion it was just his brain playing tricks with him. I mean McKenna used to say how he would try and have dialogues with psychedelic mushrooms to see if what he was being told was of any significance or not. I have found myself in these uncanny situations, the whole spectrum is there within your own mind, the different egos (internally and externally) are like programs which keep us identifying with the duality matrix.

I think what we are collectively evolving towards is the Self, the elimination of ego, non-duality, balance etc... and this is affecting every level of our being. This is why it is important to live from the heart and not the mind. The heart chakra is the fourth chakra, notice how there are three above and three below.

http://www.connectionspuzzles.com/prodimages/PW_CH_CHAKRAS01_cr.jpg

When David Icke took ayahuasca he claims to have heard a voice which said "infinite love is the only truth, everything else is an illusion". Most people do not understand what love is from it's highest ideal. Albert Einstein said "where there is love, there is no question". The ego only knows conditional love, which is really attachment. Infinite love is unconditional oneness, completion, eternity, the fullness of expression, seeing yourself in all things. Love embraces all, it does not deny anything, everything is accepted and transmuted, even fear. Love embraces the dark and the light without judgment, to live within love is to live at one with creation/manifestation. Think of it in terms of love as the harmony of unity. Ultimately love is the only truth, but we have chosen to experience duality in this plane of existence by forgetting that "we" are the dreamer of the dream.

Nature is perfection, nature is balanced and this has been known by the indigenous tribes since the beginning of time. Everything in nature occurs in cycles, we are at the dawn of a new day. If I go back to what I said about the Earth being ready to give birth it is then when we reach the singularity it is like waking up, regaining lucidity, literally become one with all existence, everything is converging.

A few other things I thought I would add in. I do not see transhumanism as the way forward, technology is just another matrix within the matrix, check out The Borg Agenda (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0D732BC0097BA0DC) by Lenon Honor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTJ7mCcFoY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTJ7mCcFoY

Technology has separated us from nature, the Mayans say a day will come where man will give up all his technology and return to nature. The only technology we need is our own mind!

The way I look at reality is that we are just egos of one mind, when we die all that dies is the ego. I feel (atleast within my subjective reality) that we will see an "externalizing of the Soul and internalizing of the body" as Terence McKenna put it. We are shifting from an outward projection to an inward reflection. In that respect we become the dreamer watching the universe within.

I do see the "2012" symbol as more of a wake up call to what "we" are. Maybe it is just a massive synchronicity placebo for people to find the divine within. Then again thoughts change reality.

Another thing to consider is the pole shifts. The sun is due its pole shift in 2012 as part of the 11 year sunspot cycle, the Earth could shift poles at any time as part of a larger cycle. We each have tiny magnetic particles in our brain so if all these pole reversals take place maybe it is akin to a switching from the left brain (compartmentalized) to the right (holistic)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEY

I think really the thing for people to remember is that the outside is a reflection of the inside, the outside doesn't change the inside.

"Die before you die, the mind sees things inside out. What it takes to be life is really death, and what it takes to be death is really life" -- Rumi

[archemis]

An excellent post, full of great info. Thank you. I will certainly have a look at Lungold's work.

Namaste
A x

[bsmurph83]

Thank you for your compliment, that was taken on a good hair day *blush*

My timeframe is the same as Dr. Calleman's, October 2011. The current overlay of the 260 day Tzolkin and our 365 day Gregorian is in error also the Mayan cycle must end on 13 Ahau.. . the 2012 date does not tally with either.

See Dr Calleman's report at:

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/risk_of_2012.htm

A
x

Archemis, i will have a look at Calleman's stuff, thanks. and who said anything about hair? :D probably just a 'good day' all round, eh?

echoes of a dream, cheers for the info. still more reading to do.

[bsmurph83]

remember reading recently that scientists found that we are not part of the Milky Way, we are in a separate Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy that is in the process of being swallowed by the Milky Way...

http://www.viewzone.com/milkyway.html



just on the viewzone thing, i think people need to read it within context of the following material (which i am glad i found after reading the viewzone article!!!):



stumbled upon some material relating to it on dave wilcock's site:

LightEye07-06-2007, 09:46 AM
Dear Friends,

http://astsun.astro.virginia.edu/~srm4n/

Here's the article;

http://viewzone.com/milkyway.html

Be Well, Be Love.

David

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS WEBPAGE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO CONTACT ME REGARDING FALLACIOUS NEWS REPORTS ABOUT THE SUN BEING FROM THE SAGITTARIUS DWARF GALAXY:

DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET! WE HAVE NEVER MADE THE CLAIM THAT THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS FROM THE SAGITTARIUS GALAXY, AND REPORTS TO THE CONTRARY ARE A GROSS DISTORTION OF OUR RESEARCH!

IF YOU ARE A JOURNALIST, PLEASE FOLLOW TRADITIONAL JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS AND DO PROPER SOURCE AND FACT CHECKING! (IF OTHER SUPPOSEDLY RELIABLE NEWS AGENCIES HAD SUBSCRIBED TO THESE BASIC PRINCIPLES, YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE WASTING TIME RIGHT NOW CHASING DOWN THIS ILLEGITIMATE NEWS STORY!)

THE WEBSITE http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/06/27/is-the-sun-from-another-galaxy , WRITTEN BY A Ph.D. ASTRONOMER, DOES A REASONABLE JOB OF ADDRESSING THE MISINFORMATION BEING CIRCULATED AROUND THE WORLD IN THIS "NEWS STORY" HOAX.

If after reading the above referenced wesbite you still wish to ask questions either about the ACTUAL science involved in our research, or my opinions about how shoddy reporting (at least reporting of science) has become in the mainstream press, please feel free to send me an email.

PS: It is ironic that journalists, who constantly rail against blogs as illegitimate sources of news, elected here to rely on a blog from someone with no scientific credentials (but a lot of imagination) as the sole source for breaking fanciful, but completely incorrect stories on something purporting to be as important as "one of the most pivotal discoveries of our time"....

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David Wilcock07-06-2007, 11:09 AM
I have been watching this story with interest. I knew from the beginning we were not from the Sagittarius galaxy for a variety of reasons, including those more cyclical in nature - namely the cycles of evolution in millions of years and how precisely they mate with the orbit of the galaxy.

The intersection with the debris of another galaxy COULD account for some of what we're seeing with the interplanetary climate change -- but it would be a gross distraction to focus on that at the exclusion of all the other processes that are at work.

- David

further worthwhile reading on this topic appears here: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/27/is-the-sun-from-another-galaxy/

this is probably all that's needed, actually. not that i'm a big fan of badastronomy or anything.

we aren't part of the sagittarius system, although the viewzone article makes it seems that way, which is why the other stuff needs to be read to correct its errors and put the factual scientific data in its proper context again (it was taken out of context by viewzone apparently).

at least, this is my non-astronomer point of view, having read through these articles quickly. looks like viewzone folks have been pulling our leg a little... :rolleyes:

oh well. still some interesting material in it.

the part about dark matter being in a spherical formation immediately triggered 'aether theory' in my mind. hence, the first site i went to in following it up was dave wilcock's. :D

[dolores1]

Thank you for your compliment, that was taken on a good hair day *blush*

My timeframe is the same as Dr. Calleman's, October 2011. The current overlay of the 260 day Tzolkin and our 365 day Gregorian is in error also the Mayan cycle must end on 13 Ahau.. . the 2012 date does not tally with either.

See Dr Calleman's report at:

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/risk_of_2012.htm

A
x


How does relate to the I Ching's completion date of Dec 2012 please.

[archemis]

Archemis, i will have a look at Calleman's stuff, thanks. and who said anything about hair? :D probably just a 'good day' all round, eh?

echoes of a dream, cheers for the info. still more reading to do.

lol ...... thanku.

cool avatar :)

love
A

[archemis]

How does relate to the I Ching's completion date of Dec 2012 please.

I'm sorry but I am not familiar with I Ching, hence can't correlate the two. I would be interested in your perception / findings re. I Ching though.

love
A x

[bsmurph83]

lol ...... thanku.

cool avatar :)

love
A

thanks. that's me on a bad hairday.... ;)

[echoes_of_a_dream]

Here's a few links for a background into the I-Ching and Timewave Zero...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8701042459684666916

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392386/pg1

I have a lot more to read too, thoughts changing all the time! :o

Love and Peace