Army Pissup Fund wtf!!!

[seeking_truth_lpool]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090906/tuk-appeal-to-bring-troops-beer-cheer-6323e80.html

Sounds like something from "The Day Today" or "BrassEye"

[gods sun]

hows poppy tea, kratom and weed sound :)

[henryv]

I'm sure a few whores would be welcome too.

[diaphos]

For christ's sake the article mentions giving each soldier 1 cold can of beer on the plane home, hardly a piss up

[grachtengordel]

For christ's sake the article mentions giving each soldier 1 cold can of beer on the plane home, hardly a piss up

but they should not get anything, they should be given a can of blood, thought they would have the taste for it after all the murder they have done.
I suppose giving them physically addictive alcohol before they have landed will keep these brainwashed 'violence machines' in that drunken zone.
this will reinforce pleasant associations the thugs have to alcohol and it will
keep 'the taste' there.
the thugs will then probably go drinking immediately on landing. come 11pm we could see a lot of violence from these traumatised attack dogs.

would be better for all of us decent, non-violent humans if they gave them a can of fast acting poison. use the bodies as winter fuel

I'm sure a few whores would be welcome too.

looks like the rent boys and 'toilet traders' across u.k. will be in full employment

[mark1963]

I do not agree with what they are doing/have done out there, but they are human beings and I'm sure a can of beer would be nice.

[bluegrazz]

I do not agree with what they are doing/have done out there, but they are human beings and I'm sure a can of beer would be nice.

QFT- Even if what they are doing is evil- To them , to those men and women who are fighting- They for the most part really believe they are doing whats necessary.

Alot of these people signed up because they thought their Nation had been attacked. Alot of Brits signed up because they thought their Brothers, the Americans were attacked and then came 7/7 .

These people think they are doing the right thing. They are sons and daughters and brothers and sisters. If the Brits were attacked (really attacked) or if my Country was- Dammit I would fight... These people are doing what they think is the right thing.

Lets not debate war and the nature of war. Just give your Countrymen a beer.

[armoured_amazon]

I do not agree with what they are doing/have done out there, but they are human beings and I'm sure a can of beer would be nice.

QFT- Even if what they are doing is evil- To them , to those men and women who are fighting- They for the most part really believe they are doing whats necessary.

Alot of these people signed up because they thought their Nation had been attacked. Alot of Brits signed up because they thought their Brothers, the Americans were attacked and then came 7/7 .

These people think they are doing the right thing. They are sons and daughters and brothers and sisters. If the Brits were attacked (really attacked) or if my Country was- Dammit I would fight... These people are doing what they think is the right thing.

Lets not debate war and the nature of war. Just give your Countrymen a beer.

Agreed. :)

[diaphos]

but they should not get anything, they should be given a can of blood, thought they would have the taste for it after all the murder they have done.
I suppose giving them physically addictive alcohol before they have landed will keep these brainwashed 'violence machines' in that drunken zone.
this will reinforce pleasant associations the thugs have to alcohol and it will
keep 'the taste' there.
the thugs will then probably go drinking immediately on landing. come 11pm we could see a lot of violence from these traumatised attack dogs.

would be better for all of us decent, non-violent humans if they gave them a can of fast acting poison. use the bodies as winter fuel



looks like the rent boys and 'toilet traders' across u.k. will be in full employment


So your a decent none violent human being who thinks returning soldiers should be given a can of fast acting poison and then use there bodies as winter fuel

I have family serving out there, I really am very pissed off at your comments, so I think its best i keep quiet and not say any more to you.

[grachtengordel]

QFT- Even if what they are doing is evil- To them , to those men and women who are fighting- They for the most part really believe they are doing whats necessary.

as does a robot programmed to kill. the thing does not realise that it is an automaton. well, I don't trust robots or any programmed lifeform so safer to just flick the 'off' switch

Alot of these people signed up because they thought their Nation had been attacked. Alot of Brits signed up because they thought their Brothers, the Americans were attacked and then came 7/7

you obviously don't have a clue and are not in u.k.
only americans call us 'brits' and we 'brtish' never refer to ourselves as such, after all , I am not 'british', I am english.
we certainly don't see the yanks as our "brothers" , that is really quite funny,

So your a decent none violent human being who thinks returning soldiers should be given a can of fast acting poison and then use there bodies as winter fuel.

is the vet 'violent' when he puts a demented and dangerous dog to sleep?

I have family serving out there,

"serving" who? serving the evil bastards in washington, downing st and occupied palestine. your 'family' is a servent of evil, they willingly further the aims of the sickest evil bastards, they should never have gone there and they deserve all the suffering that will befall them

[bluegrazz]

So your a decent none violent human being who thinks returning soldiers should be given a can of fast acting poison and then use there bodies as winter fuel

I have family serving out there, I really am very pissed off at your comments, so I think its best i keep quiet and not say any more to you.

its all good bro- That persons words speak very clearly as to what type of person (term used loosely) he/she is.

I wish your Family/Friends the best. I dont even know what to say here. I dont know anyone serving right now but those comments pissed me off because there are many of my Countrymen who really are putting their lives on the line and really feel that they are doing it to protect me, my family and my way of life...

If someone (usually a liberal) is too cowardly to defend their country upon an attack (whether real or not- Its how its perceived) or has a "peace and love" attitude but would poison soldiers- Nope, not gunna go on and get myself banned.

[drhemp]

I'd rather give them some mushroom tea to help them on the path to enlightenment so they can realise how wrong what the Government has been making them do is. To be fair, a lot of them realise this even without the mushroom tea.

[bluegrazz]

as does a robot programmed to kill. the thing does not realise that it is an automaton. well, I don't trust robots or any programmed lifeform so safer to just flick the 'off' switch



you obviously don't have a clue and are not in u.k.
only americans call us 'brits' and we 'brtish' never refer to ourselves as such, after all , I am not 'british', I am english.
we certainly don't see the yanks as our "brothers" , that is really quite funny,



is the vet 'violent' when he puts a demented and dangerous dog to sleep?



"serving" who? serving the evil bastards in washington, downing st and occupied palestine. your 'family' is a servent of evil, they willingly further the aims of the sickest evil bastards, they should never have gone there and they deserve all the suffering that will befall them

Oh yeah, we kicked your ass right? Calling us Yanks would insult us and we'd havta kick some ass again.:D

BTW- This goes to the asshole who dosent see us 'Yanks" as his Brothers and Sisters. (Also note the flag I use as an avatar... I am a REB not a YANK. You obviously dont live in the States and are pretty ignorant of our history.... (Beyond when we kicked your ass out)- I actually love the Brits (and if thats demeaning I am sorry. I call my brit friends brits and my Australian Friends "aussie" and they call me a wanker.) I just dont like idiots like you.

Anyhow, i hope your Country is never attacked for real lest your countrymen see you for the coward you are- And BTW- say that stuff to a "Vet" k.

[diaphos]

its all good bro- That persons words speak very clearly as to what type of person (term used loosely) he/she is.

I wish your Family/Friends the best. I dont even know what to say here. I dont know anyone serving right now but those comments pissed me off because there are many of my Countrymen who really are putting their lives on the line and really feel that they are doing it to protect me, my family and my way of life...

If someone (usually a liberal) is too cowardly to defend their country upon an attack (whether real or not- Its how its perceived) or has a "peace and love" attitude but would poison soldiers- Nope, not gunna go on and get myself banned.


Thanks for your good wishes.

I best not say anymore about that excuse for a human being i will definatley get banned

[johnthejedi24]

His comments piss me off to no end also. While I did not support the Iraq war I support the Afghan intervention. 99% of our troops are not cold blooded murderers, just people doing a job and supporting their country in the way they see fit.

[dmt head]

I'd rather give them some mushroom tea to help them on the path to enlightenment so they can realise how wrong what the Government has been making them do is. To be fair, a lot of them realise this even without the mushroom tea.

Thats what they should do lol

[i_am]

Most of the anti Iraq invasion demonstrations in my area were organised by Vietnam Vets. They knew from experience that what they had believed when enlisting, was far from the truth.

[bluegrazz]

Yeah, my dad was in Nam... My Dad's the most gentle, loving, courageous man I know who was a good provider, a good Father and a great friend. My dad believed he was fighting the Communist threat when his Country called and he stood up and did what was right in his mind- Prepared to die if necessary.

My Dad wasnt some "programmed killing machine" who could "go off at any time" nor are most of the Veterans I know... These people are people, like you and I, with feelings and regrets- Often haunted by what they had to do in order to save themselves or a friend.

There is a fine distinction between the troops and the war or the government who calls these KIDS (usually below drinking age) to fight and die on Foreign soil... You can diametricly oppose the waar but you cannot turn your back on the troops.

Like the post above said- Huge amounts of Veterans (my father included) opposed and protested these insane wars. But, there is a time and a place and a reason for War- War can be necessary. Unfortunately these troops were tricked into thinking this one was- BUT they did what they thought in their hearts was right and necessary- And that is commendable and courageous.

This is a touch subject for me- I seriously apologize from my heart if I offended anyone with my Brit/Yank post above... That guy really pissed me off and I wrote that in anger... I consider the Brits (no offense guys, you can call me a Yank- I play an Online game on an Oceanic Server so my whole Guild is Brits and Aussies so get alot of shit from you people) NOTE: The derogatory use of "you people" :D

We are brothers. Hell, even include the Canadians of you want (So they dont feel left out) and the shit happening in your country and to you regarding freedoms and such bothers me as much as whats going on at home- We're in this together.

So basically, sorry if I insulted anyone except 1 or 2 assholes who shall remain nameless.

[yozhik]

Right ... so we're expected to be concerned about giving the soldiers a can of fucking beer ...

But noone seems to give a shit about the £6.5 Billion anomaly in the accounts of the military hardware, between what has been spent and what actually exists?

Dig deep ... donate beer ...
But don't worry about £6.5 Billion in missing equipment AND substandard equipment on front lines.

Ah, fuck it ... maybe they could start putting beer cans on the side of vehicles as armour plating, or holding workshops to learn how to turn beer tabs into bullets or the plastic shrink wrap that holds the cans together into useful temporary handcuffs or restraints.

Whip out the "every soldier needs a beer" violin, to help us forget about the missing billions and the troops actually dead due to faulty equipment.

[gods sun]

dont tell me that they dont smoke weed over there ither

[grachtengordel]

And BTW- say that stuff to a "Vet" k.

i was talking about a vet/animal doctor, the ones you get to put dangerous dogs to sleep

I actually love the Brits (and if thats demeaning I am sorry. I call my brit friends brits and my Australian Friends "aussie".

it's not 'demeaning' , just incorrect. people who live in 'britain' are NOT 'brits' or even 'british' , that is an abstract concept. the scotch dont consider thgemselves 'brits', they are scotchish, 'britain' is a concept like the NAU. I dont call americans 'north american unioners'

While I did not support the Iraq war I support the Afghan intervention.

then you are a fool, totally brainwashed. you support the traffic of heroin to destroy lives in your own country

[jhado]

i was talking about a vet/animal doctor, the ones you get to put dangerous dogs to sleep



it's not 'demeaning' , just incorrect. people who live in 'britain' are NOT 'brits' or even 'british' , that is an abstract concept. the scotch dont consider thgemselves 'brits', they are scotchish, 'britain' is a concept like the NAU. I dont call americans 'north american unioners'



then you are a fool, totally brainwashed. you support the traffic of heroin to destroy lives in your own country

OK, I'll take your bait,

There is no such nationality as Scotch or Scotchish.

Even Scotchish soldiers aren't real.:p

[entrangermercenary]

but they should not get anything, they should be given a can of blood, thought they would have the taste for it after all the murder they have done.
I suppose giving them physically addictive alcohol before they have landed will keep these brainwashed 'violence machines' in that drunken zone.
this will reinforce pleasant associations the thugs have to alcohol and it will
keep 'the taste' there.
the thugs will then probably go drinking immediately on landing. come 11pm we could see a lot of violence from these traumatised attack dogs.

would be better for all of us decent, non-violent humans if they gave them a can of fast acting poison. use the bodies as winter fuel



looks like the rent boys and 'toilet traders' across u.k. will be in full employment

Seems to me like u are a suppressed homosexual who is frightened to come out :D
All your posts go on about homos and rent boys with regards to the military. Whats up , wont the boyfriend wear a uniform for you anymore.
Hows the punctuation, seems your keen on pulling people up on that as a last resort. Personally I cdnt give a fuck about it, but each to there own eh!!! xx

Any way slink the fuck back into your dark cupboard and smoke some more skunk. As for Brits lol a man of knowledge on that subject eh !!

[cpfc12]

Don't see what the problem is if its only a can of a beer, its not like we are going to give away millions of pounds so some squaddies can get rat arsed.

[Ian2day]

Right ... so we're expected to be concerned about giving the soldiers a can of fucking beer ...

But noone seems to give a shit about the £6.5 Billion anomaly in the accounts of the military hardware, between what has been spent and what actually exists?

Dig deep ... donate beer ...
But don't worry about £6.5 Billion in missing equipment AND substandard equipment on front lines.

Ah, fuck it ... maybe they could start putting beer cans on the side of vehicles as armour plating, or holding workshops to learn how to turn beer tabs into bullets or the plastic shrink wrap that holds the cans together into useful temporary handcuffs or restraints.

Whip out the "every soldier needs a beer" violin, to help us forget about the missing billions and the troops actually dead due to faulty equipment.

The missing money explanation is an abstract concept that would require people acknowledging that their society is a banana republic. They self reinforce a media constructed false perception of standards with their denial and ignorance of reality. If the unified message is constantly reinforced by the constructed hero's and folklore of a society. Will these people ever wake up. Even if a revolution was to happen. These people would just go with the flow as they lack the conceptual ability and discernment needed to decide for themselves the legitamacy of any new doctrine or ideology. So it will take just 5% of any population to bring about change. As the rest will just follow as they do now. Once a large enough number are awoken to the failings of the current paradigms system. Then new leaders with an acceptable direction and ethos to the 5% will emerge and challenge the status quo.

[cpfc12]

His comments piss me off to no end also. While I did not support the Iraq war I support the Afghan intervention. 99% of our troops are not cold blooded murderers, just people doing a job and supporting their country in the way they see fit.

Then again you can easily say the Nazis where just following their duty and supporting their country. But then again to strike a comparison between the british army and the nazi party is incomprehensible

[hawks29]

as does a robot programmed to kill. the thing does not realise that it is an automaton. well, I don't trust robots or any programmed lifeform so safer to just flick the 'off' switch



you obviously don't have a clue and are not in u.k.
only americans call us 'brits' and we 'brtish' never refer to ourselves as such, after all , I am not 'british', I am english.
we certainly don't see the yanks as our "brothers" , that is really quite funny,



is the vet 'violent' when he puts a demented and dangerous dog to sleep?



"serving" who? serving the evil bastards in washington, downing st and occupied palestine. your 'family' is a servent of evil, they willingly further the aims of the sickest evil bastards, they should never have gone there and they deserve all the suffering that will befall them



I do not agree with the war , but these young kids signed up to defend their country, they probably think what they are doing is for the best.

You, are a tool

[cpfc12]

No one is out their fighting for their government or country, for one its fuck knows how many thousands of miles away, they fight for their mates, alot of my mates are signing up because they don't want a boring 9 to 5 job and its a way of life, it is appealing, and hard not to resist

[Ian2day]

I live right in the heart of British military hive mind land. This area is awash with an 'alternative interest' culture. If that is the way of life they have signed up to defend. Then bring on the revolution I say.

[cpfc12]

I live right in the heart of British military hive mind land. This area is awash with an 'alternative interest' culture. If that is the way of life they have signed up to defend. Then bring on the revolution I say.

Could you please explain further

[cryst4l]

QFT- Even if what they are doing is evil- To them , to those men and women who are fighting- They for the most part really believe they are doing whats necessary.

Alot of these people signed up because they thought their Nation had been attacked. Alot of Brits signed up because they thought their Brothers, the Americans were attacked and then came 7/7 .

These people think they are doing the right thing. They are sons and daughters and brothers and sisters. If the Brits were attacked (really attacked) or if my Country was- Dammit I would fight... These people are doing what they think is the right thing.

Lets not debate war and the nature of war. Just give your Countrymen a beer.

And it is this thought process that is required with all humans......even the MASON'S PEOPLE :eek:

They are human and although they know not of what they stand for, they are not primarily responsible.

If they know what they stand for and still abide by it then that's a different gether all to matter :)

[cpfc12]

I find it kind of suprising how more attention and the lack of " oh they don't know what they are doing" "they dont know that they are working for evil satanic forces" if recieved to a cop in this country arresting somebody for bullshit reasons in a protest or taking someones megaphone away, where as people seem to shy away from when our military cause mass murder of innocents out in iraq or afghanistan.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80668

I mean that is what is being reported, so god knows what else is going on out there.
And also it clearly shows which lives are deemed more important :( a middle class person recieving a chinesse burn or a some children getting blown up :(
yes its all bad, but how we are desensitised too it all is just tragic. I have no problem with giving these soldiers a beer. I feel sorry for all those that are in that position of working for the state, i mean pretty much everybody, although people on here can play the card of "oh they don't really know what they are doing" , we are all on here to learn lessons, no matter how fucked up they are.

[nofuture]

I might be wrong but some of them seem to revel in violence and love it, and the machismo of it, and the camaraderie you don't get in ordinary life, not considering the rights and wrongs.

But no one said it was a nice world.

[pinnochio]

Like has been said before. Alot of these guys and women truly believe in what they're fighting for and doing.

I heard this saying in an interview. If someone is fighting for something they truly believe in. That gives them the dispensation from god to take life. I'm not saying kilings fine and should be accepted. But they are fighting who they believe to be the enemy.

And all this stuff about soldiers will go to some sort of hell. No they won't. I think the creator knows they're fighting for something they believe in. Its not like they joined up just to go and kill people for fun. Well most of them didn't.

I don't agree with the war and think its bullshit. But you can't take thousands of soldiers overnight and say hey your wrong. This is whats right stop fighting. Thats not gonna happen

[cpfc12]

Like has been said before. Alot of these guys and women truly believe in what they're fighting for and doing.

I heard this saying in an interview. If someone is fighting for something they truly believe in. That gives them the dispensation from god to take life. I'm not saying kilings fine and should be accepted. But they are fighting who they believe to be the enemy.

And all this stuff about soldiers will go to some sort of hell. No they won't. I think the creator knows they're fighting for something they believe in. Its not like they joined up just to go and kill people for fun. Well most of them didn't.

I don't agree with the war and think its bullshit. But you can't take thousands of soldiers overnight and say hey your wrong. This is whats right stop fighting. Thats not gonna happen

But then again most people kill because they believe they are killing the enemy, just a point

[jim fear]

Universal Soldier
He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four,
He fights with missiles and with spears.
He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen,
Been a soldier for a thousand years.

He'a a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain,
A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew.
And he knows he shouldn't kill,
And he knows he always will,
Kill you for me my friend and me for you.

And he's fighting for Canada,
He's fighting for France,
He's fighting for the USA,
And he's fighting for the Russians,
And he's fighting for Japan,
And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way.

And he's fighting for Democracy,
He's fighting for the Reds,
He says it's for the peace of all.
He's the one who must decide,
Who's to live and who's to die,
And he never sees the writing on the wall.

But without him,
How would Hitler have condemned him at Labau?
Without him Caesar would have stood alone,
He's the one who gives his body
As a weapon of the war,
And without him all this killing can't go on.

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame,
His orders come from far away no more,
They come from here and there and you and me,
And brothers can't you see,
This is not the way we put the end to war.

[kerravon33]

Donovan's Universal Soldier...Great post. Hits the nail on the head perfectly. Not much left to say after that.

is the vet 'violent' when he puts a demented and dangerous dog to sleep?Well said. Actually you just reminded me of a Prince Harry quote from Afghanistan. Remember he said once to the Sky News team following him around, "Sometimes it takes a dog, to kill a dog". Do you remember that? I thought that was a particularly sick thing for him to say because the news of those U.S. Marines throwing that helpless bound and tied puppy off a cliff and laughing about it only a few days previously was still fresh in my mind. Of course I'm sure it was "all just a coincidence, nothing to worry about".....

You're right. The fact is, if you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Surely everybody knows that the "war" in Afghanistan is a criminal occupation, waged by criminals primarily interested in the increase of poppy production and oil pipelines? There's no other way around it. So, if YOU stick up for "our boys" in any way, then YOU are an accomplice in crimes against humanity and the continuation of the drug trade. You are nothing more than a common criminal. True, there is arguably a need to have a military standing army - AT HOME - but the entire system needs to be changed (i.e. a revolution) before we even need that. I think Smedley Butler's War is a Racket explains the situation perfectly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0

While it's true that some of the troops in Afghanistan may be good upstanding people - and I have the utmost respect for those loyal to their unit and their comrades-in-arms - the inescapable truth of the matter is that they are ultimately "loyal" and responsible for the protection of The Crown - the royal family - and NOT in the interest of the general public whatsoever. They are property of the Crown, to be played with like toys. They are pawns on the grand chessboard. For "Queen and country" does NOT include YOU. It's a scam. Or should I say, a "racket".

Another sad fact is that the troops are currently being subjected to secret medical experiments, so-called vaccinations, depleted uranium, brainwashing and all sorts of mind-control. Not to mention all the MI6, CIA, Mossad and Blackwater agents dressed-up in fake beards blowing them up left right and centre... Indeed the troops won't even know that even the fucking "free" beer they're given as a "good will" gesture isn't laced with cancer-causing viruses or poison or not! Gratchen may actually be closer to the truth than she knows.

So if their masters are psychopathic degenerate criminal eugenicist scum like the world has ever known, and the troops down the chain KNOW it, what does that make THEM? Well we know what Henry Kissinger thinks, don't we? "dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy". That was nice of him to say that, wasn't it?

This line caught my eye in the original article..."British military bases in southern Afghanistan are alcohol-free zones"If only that statement was posted on a banner in large, bold lettering above every UK Army recruitment office....