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blueyonder2012
06-09-2009, 03:59 PM
Maybe Icke is not so crazy after all (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
independent.ie | Article (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
DAVID Icke is widely pilloried for his claims that the world is controlled by a secret group of powerful people which he calls the ‘Global Elite’ or ‘Illuminati’.
He says that this group operates at a level higher than most national governments.
He claims that governments are instructed to introduce laws and pursue policies in support of the long-term aims of the architects of this New World Order, irrespective of the wishes of citizens.
Surprisingly, the result of the Lisbon referendum was rejected by our own government and the European Union. Mysteriously, the Supreme Court’s recent ruling in respect of the Zoe group’s receivership appears to have been ignored.
Incredibly, Mr Cowen is still Taoiseach.
Inexplicably, Mary Harney is still Health Minister. Unbelievably, the Greens are still in government.
And this is a democracy? Maybe Mr Icke is not totally wrong about everything.
He has propounded many crazy theories over the years, but to his credit he never proposed anything as dangerous as NAMA. Article > > > (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
:D:p;)
notthisshitagain
06-09-2009, 04:24 PM
Of course Icke is not so crazy after all! Too bad it took them too long to find out, :rolleyes: and too bad that article is so short =/ Well, let's hope it reaches more people...:)
martg
06-09-2009, 04:30 PM
that's a great letter for attracting people to this site (no mention of lizards :))
i wonder if Gerry O'Donnel is a member on here?
any idea what NAMA is? :confused:
francis
06-09-2009, 04:33 PM
David Icke is totaly sane IMHO.
Icke, David In March 1991, a former U.K. soccer star, spokesperson for the Green party, and broadcaster named David Icke called a press conference in London to announce a number of upcoming world-shaking events revealed to him personally, he said, by Socrates, “the Godhead,” Jesus Christ, and various other spirits. They had chosen him, he said, to be the “channel for the Christ spirit.” The press paid close attention and published lengthy interviews with Mr. Icke.
Mr. Icke declared that “disruptive thought vibrations” originating with the Sicilian Mafia and the Tiananmen Square massacre in China had combined to set in motion a cataclysm that would first be evidenced when Mount Rainier in the United States would explode. No date was given. This would be followed, he said, by the complete disappearance of New Zealand, the collapse of the Channel Tunnel, the fall of Naples Cathedral, and an unspecified failure of the Texas oil fields.
These events would be brought about by the “archangel Ak-Taurus,” who, he said, had previously managed to thwart an attempt by the citizens of Atlantis to avoid the submersion of that civilization. The Atlanteans, said Mr. Icke, had been urged to tune in to the “power point” at Stonehenge, but they did not heed the warning and were thus destroyed. He also revealed that both King Arthur and Merlin, along with the archangels, have now turned off the power at Stonehenge so that Ak-Taurus cannot use it against mankind. What a relief!
By Christmas 1991, Mr. Icke predicted, Cuba, Greece, the Isle of Arran, the cliffs of Kent, and Teeside would be hit by a great earthquake (8.0 on the Richter scale) that would submerge them.
Mr. Icke has since stated that at the time he made these predictions he knew they were crazy.
arty2000
06-09-2009, 04:55 PM
gee ya think,,blue:D
jamesc
06-09-2009, 05:02 PM
David Icke is totaly sane IMHO.
source links??:rolleyes:
nialldabass
06-09-2009, 05:04 PM
that's a great letter for attracting people to this site (no mention of lizards :))
i wonder if Gerry O'Donnel is a member on here?
any idea what NAMA is? :confused:
National Asset Management Agency
Its about buying the banks bad debt and giving it to the people to pay, same as what Gordy has done in England
frase
06-09-2009, 05:06 PM
In years to come I expect to see more and more of these type of articles....and I bet David will get a lot of satisfaction from saying.. I told you so.....
He will be looked at as a visionary in years to come, he is now to many of us, but on a far bigger scale, i am convinced about that.
martg
06-09-2009, 05:14 PM
National Asset Management Agency
Its about buying the banks bad debt and giving it to the people to pay, same as what Gordy has done in England
aah, thanks :)
blueyonder2012
06-09-2009, 05:17 PM
in years to come i expect to see more and more of these type of articles....and i bet david will get a lot of satisfaction from saying.. I told you so.....
He will be looked at as a visionary in years to come, he is now to many of us, but on a far bigger scale, i am convinced about that.
Send it to people (i will be) who call you crazy just to put that question mark in their mind!!
!
oilydoyley
06-09-2009, 05:23 PM
this is controversial however i would say be very careful.
any mainstream news that looks like it is positive against tptb keep an open mind.
in recent times i have seen various subliminals and signs during interviews of all famous guests and researchers that suggest mind manipulation or programming has taken place.
i will not go into great detail however, i would say keep an open mind.
regards
genieofwealth
Anyone who thinks DI is crazy, is really crazy.:D
blueyonder2012
06-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Anyone who thinks DI is crazy, is really crazy.:D
I will be buying tinfoil for my mates and some instructions for various hat styles;):p
:p
kriss_crow
06-09-2009, 05:28 PM
source links??:rolleyes:
it came from here:
http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/Icke,%20David.html
francis
06-09-2009, 06:33 PM
source links??:rolleyes:
Do you not know much of Mr Ickes past predictions?? :rolleyes:
Here's an up and coming beauty
In 20 years there will be a different kind of flying machine, very different from the aircraft of today. Time will have no meaning. Where you want to be, you will be.
This was told to David Icke on March 29th,1990.
I cant wait.
dangermouse
06-09-2009, 06:48 PM
that's a great letter for attracting people to this site (no mention of lizards :))
i wonder if Gerry O'Donnel is a member on here?
any idea what NAMA is? :confused:
Yes NAMA with advice from the Rothschild bank :rolleyes:
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssFinancialServicesAndRealEstateNews/idUSL121115920090901
martg
06-09-2009, 07:15 PM
Yes NAMA with advice from the Rothschild bank :rolleyes:
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssFinancialServicesAndRealEstateNews/idUSL121115920090901
Thanks for the link. :)
it's not exactly a suprise to find a Rothschild involved with this.
that's an interesting read "Government bonds issued in return for the assets will boost Ireland's national debt by 60 billion euros" :eek:
radford
06-09-2009, 07:25 PM
Do you not know much of Mr Ickes past predictions?? :rolleyes:
Here's an up and coming beauty
This was told to David Icke on March 29th,1990.
I cant wait.
There are many predictions that the Quantum Theory being tested at CERN which should take place this year will show that Time and Space can be conquered. I suggest you look at the HADRON COLLIDER stuff on the internet.
How David Icke could know that this experiment was due 20 years before it happened is beyond me. But if the experiment works then this will happen.
marpat
06-09-2009, 07:30 PM
David Icke is totaly sane IMHO.
Ak-Taurus? sounds like a corruption of the star Arcturus.
song_of_susannah
06-09-2009, 07:30 PM
Everybody is slightly unhinged, we all dip in and out of balanced and unbalanced thinking.
Icke seems like a pretty normal bloke to me.
The insane are running the asylum anyhows.
marpat
06-09-2009, 07:33 PM
Everybody is slightly unhinged, we all dip in and out of balanced and unbalanced thinking.
Icke seems like a pretty normal bloke to me.
The insane are running the asylum anyhows.
Just one who thinks a vase looks like an alien :D
dolores1
06-09-2009, 07:40 PM
Maybe Icke is not so crazy after all (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
independent.ie | Article (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
DAVID Icke is widely pilloried for his claims that the world is controlled by a secret group of powerful people which he calls the ‘Global Elite’ or ‘Illuminati’.
He says that this group operates at a level higher than most national governments.
He claims that governments are instructed to introduce laws and pursue policies in support of the long-term aims of the architects of this New World Order, irrespective of the wishes of citizens.
Surprisingly, the result of the Lisbon referendum was rejected by our own government and the European Union. Mysteriously, the Supreme Court’s recent ruling in respect of the Zoe group’s receivership appears to have been ignored.
Incredibly, Mr Cowen is still Taoiseach.
Inexplicably, Mary Harney is still Health Minister. Unbelievably, the Greens are still in government.
And this is a democracy? Maybe Mr Icke is not totally wrong about everything.
He has propounded many crazy theories over the years, but to his credit he never proposed anything as dangerous as NAMA. Article > > > (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
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Thanks BY2012,
It is worse that that, many of us Irish at present seem to be totally hypontised. I drove through 8 counties over Friday and Saturday 4th.& 5th. Sep. And the YES propoganda is everywhere. I talked to a couple of people, generally asking questions and sewing seeds like: Do they think we are children? Do we keep having to answer the question until we get it right?
And you could see the light going on in some people. Alas I could not speak to many, only plant seeds.
Its' the rich Dubliners and rich farmers who wish for the yes vote and the people who class them selves as "middle Class"? They don't see that they will be the first to go.
Ireland was always tribal, until recently and are now a class ridden society. The meaning of "society" in legislation is not understood by most people in the world.
jamesc
06-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Do you not know much of Mr Ickes past predictions?? :rolleyes:
Well i do know that most of the things he was supposed to have said were taken out of context,wording of his quotes subliminally presented as what he actually said.The MSM have been known to exaggerate his quotes and deliberately taken his quotes or sayings out of their intended meanings. :rolleyes::cool:
Here's an up and coming beauty
Who can say what the future holds and if DI believes he was given that thought or message then who are we to attack it..;)
This was told to David Icke on March 29th,1990.
I cant wait.;)
jamesc
06-09-2009, 07:43 PM
it came from here:
http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/Icke,%20David.html
James Randi eh, mmmm.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
jamesc
06-09-2009, 07:46 PM
So a couple of early quotes from him and then ALL of his work and warnings are to be ignored , come on, pretty poor from the people who would have us believe that ALL he has or is trying to exposed should be treated with contempt.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
francis
06-09-2009, 07:56 PM
There are many predictions that the Quantum Theory being tested at CERN which should take place this year will show that Time and Space can be conquered. I suggest you look at the HADRON COLLIDER stuff on the internet.
How David Icke could know that this experiment was due 20 years before it happened is beyond me. But if the experiment works then this will happen.
And your responce relates to people traveling in flying machines and through time how?
The LHC is not a machine that flys nor is it used to convay people. Read Mr Ickes quote again.
In 20 years there will be a different kind of flying machine, very different from the aircraft of today.
Time will have no meaning. Where you want to be, you will be.
francis
06-09-2009, 08:15 PM
So a couple of early quotes from him and then ALL of his work and warnings are to be ignored , come on, pretty poor from the people who would have us believe that ALL he has or is trying to exposed should be treated with contempt.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Who said that, not me thats for sure.
francis
06-09-2009, 08:20 PM
jamesc please do not atribute words to me in the form of a quote that i never said!
i did not say Originally Posted by francis
Well i do know that most of the things he was supposed to have said were taken out of context,wording of his quotes subliminally presented as what he actually said.The MSM have been known to exaggerate his quotes and deliberately taken his quotes or sayings out of their intended meanings.
jamesc
06-09-2009, 09:36 PM
jamesc please do not atribute words to me in the form of a quote that i never said!
i did not say
Sorry ,the quote you highlighted was MY response about what the MSM can do with some of Ickes quotes.I did not intend to makle it look like you had quoted that.
"Well i do know that most of the things he was supposed to have said were taken out of context,wording of his quotes subliminally presented as what he actually said.The MSM have been known to exaggerate his quotes and deliberately taken his quotes or sayings out of their intended meanings." THIS WAS MY QUOTE, SO EVERYONE KNOWS, WAS TRYING TO ADD THIS TO THE OP IN THE FORM OF A REPLY AND RESPONSE FROM MYSELF.obviously it went terribly wrong.:eek::rolleyes:
francis
06-09-2009, 09:42 PM
Sorry ,the quote you highlighted was MY response about what the MSM can do with some of Ickes quotes.I did not intend to makle it look like you had quoted that.
Could you show how Mr Ickes words were taken out of context in the press conference he gave in London. I doubt it because that was what he was saying at the time. So now we have Mr Icke obviously talking BS and you finding the need to back him up despite not knowing the facts. Icke was talking turd like that at the time and you have jumped in to defend him saying things are taken out of context even though he did say it. Do some history on David Icke to save future embarrassment for yourself.
Talk about bloody sheep and sheep dogs.
jamesc
06-09-2009, 09:49 PM
Could you give examples of where Mr Ickes words have been taken out of context by the MSM as you say they have been?
Son of God quote on Wogan ,is the one that sticks in my mind.After that i have never taken anything that they print about DI seriously, do you??:rolleyes: And if you are that serious about Ickes quotes why do you not ask or e-mail the man himself , better from the horses mouth than me??;)
Could you give me a couple of examples were the MSM have ever treated Icke fairly and NOT taking the piss out of him or trying to make him look like a nut case.;):cool::rolleyes::rolleyes:
dolores1
06-09-2009, 09:53 PM
BUY HIS BOOKS,
I HAVE BEEN READING THEM FROM THE 1st.
Nuff said!
francis
06-09-2009, 09:56 PM
Son of God quote on Wogan ,is the one that sticks in my mind.After that i have never taken anything that they print about DI seriously, do you??:rolleyes: And if you are that serious about Ickes quotes why do you not ask or e-mail the man himself , better from the horses mouth than me??;)
Could you give me a couple of examples were the MSM have ever treated Icke fairly and NOT taking the piss out of him or trying to make him look like a nut case.;):cool::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Could you show how Mr Ickes words were taken out of context in the press conference he gave in London. I doubt it because that was what he was saying at the time. So now we have Mr Icke obviously talking BS and you finding the need to back him up despite not knowing the facts. Icke was talking turd like that at the time and you have jumped in to defend him saying things are taken out of context even though he did say it. Do some history on David Icke to save future embarrassment for yourself.
Talk about bloody sheep and sheep dogs.
Off the top of my head (and i watched it live, even though people have said it was delayed and edited) Wogan said something like " now lets get this straight the press claim that you claim you are the son of god is this true". And Mr Icke said "yes".
francis
06-09-2009, 10:00 PM
Could you give me a couple of examples were the MSM have ever treated Icke fairly and NOT taking the piss out of him or trying to make him look like a nut case.;):cool::rolleyes::rolleyes:
The James Whale show or that twat Russell Brand. He always got his say on those MSM programs.
sannox
06-09-2009, 10:13 PM
Do you not know much of Mr Ickes past predictions?? :rolleyes:
Here's an up and coming beauty
This was told to David Icke on March 29th,1990.
I cant wait.
your not up to date on ram jet and inner space public transport then
or the advances in science that claim teleporting is possible
in fact it happened in an Australian lab already were they teleported an atom across the room .
not so far off the mark was he ?
francis
06-09-2009, 10:22 PM
your not up to date on ram jet and inner space public transport then
or the advances in science that claim teleporting is possible
in fact it happened in an Australian lab already were they teleported an atom across the room .
not so far off the mark was he ?
Lol , so people will be able to travel in time before the end of next year lol. If they cant he was wrong and his own words prove that,
sannox
06-09-2009, 10:33 PM
Lol , so people will be able to travel in time before the end of next year lol. If they cant he was wrong and his own words prove that,
and if it comes out in twenty years that ten years ago scientists developed the first working prototype what will you be ?
bluegrazz
06-09-2009, 10:48 PM
Maybe Icke is not so crazy after all (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
independent.ie | Article (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
DAVID Icke is widely pilloried for his claims that the world is controlled by a secret group of powerful people which he calls the ‘Global Elite’ or ‘Illuminati’.
He says that this group operates at a level higher than most national governments.
He claims that governments are instructed to introduce laws and pursue policies in support of the long-term aims of the architects of this New World Order, irrespective of the wishes of citizens.
Surprisingly, the result of the Lisbon referendum was rejected by our own government and the European Union. Mysteriously, the Supreme Court’s recent ruling in respect of the Zoe group’s receivership appears to have been ignored.
Incredibly, Mr Cowen is still Taoiseach.
Inexplicably, Mary Harney is still Health Minister. Unbelievably, the Greens are still in government.
And this is a democracy? Maybe Mr Icke is not totally wrong about everything.
He has propounded many crazy theories over the years, but to his credit he never proposed anything as dangerous as NAMA. Article > > > (http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/maybe-icke-is-not-so-crazy-after-all-1878287.html)
:D:p;)
Icke is being credited here with what exactly? Talking about a Global Elite, the Illuminati, NWO, etc.
Icke didnt "come up with that stuff on his own" or have some great discovery that brought this to the attention of the public. The things Icke gets "right" are the very same things researches and groups have been talking about for nearly a century (or more)
Icke gets most of research from other Researchers and I am not aware of any new theory's Icke came up with on his own (other than the Reptilian Theory and metaphysical stuff regarding "reality" that is speculation and unprovable)
The articlre I see here credits Icke for "maybe being right" because he talked about a Global NWO. Wow, that must have taken him alot of his own research to come to that conclusion. Glad Icke is here to "lead" us.
francis
06-09-2009, 10:52 PM
and if it comes out in twenty years that ten years ago scientists developed the first working prototype what will you be ?
Duh, we are talking next year and if people can travel in time in the next year i will say im a dick and Mr Icke was right, but it doubt in a years time you will have the balls to admit you were wrong. We should bookmark this thread.
dolores1
06-09-2009, 11:28 PM
Francis,
Why are you here?
bluegrazz
06-09-2009, 11:40 PM
Not trying to speak for Francis or anything- But you asked why he's here.
Probably for the same reason you are here- Just because he dosent blindly believe everything that comes across his plate- Just because he is skeptical and free thinking enough to decide for himself what is real- Demand some sort of proof and hold people to their "predictions".
I think there is something wronge with people who believe in everything in the same way its wronge not to accept anything... People in the "middle" are called naysayers and skeptics here but we are merely thinking for ourselves.
chipstyxx
06-09-2009, 11:42 PM
The articlre I see here credits Icke for "maybe being right" because he talked about a Global NWO. Wow, that must have taken him alot of his own research to come to that conclusion. Glad Icke is here to "lead" us.
You obviously haven't read any of Icke's books then have you? If you bothered you would see that he is elaborating on certain themes, maybe there is a reason for that - plagiarism is not what I'm getting at, 'being right' and on to something maybe. You are disillusioned if you think that David Icke is claiming to be some kind of leader, or blessed guru with all the answers. He sure as Hell aint my leader, I am! As for the misrepresentation in the media, at least on the Wogan show, Wogan said something along the lines of "Is it true people are claiming - that you say you are the son of god?" To which Ickey answererd 'Yes'. So yes, confirmation from Ickey that some people were saying at the time, that they thought he was claiming he was the son of god. One example of Ickey being taken out of context, by some ego ridden idiot with an agenda to get a few laughs. To be honest I don't know why I am bothering in this defensive diatribe, I think Icke has some very positive things to say, if you don't want to listen then fine, don't bother.
bluegrazz
06-09-2009, 11:50 PM
You obviously haven't read any of Icke's books then have you? If you bothered you would see that he is elaborating on certain themes, maybe there is a reason for that - plagiarism is not what I'm getting at, 'being right' and on to something maybe. You are disillusioned if you think that David Icke is claiming to be some kind of leader, or blessed guru with all the answers. He sure as Hell aint my leader, I am! As for the misrepresentation in the media, at least on the Wogan show, Wogan said something along the lines of "Is it true people are claiming - that you say you are the son of god?" To which Ickey answererd 'Yes'. So yes, confirmation from Ickey that some people were saying at the time, that they thought he was claiming he was the son of god. One example of Ickey being taken out of context, by some ego ridden idiot with an agenda to get a few laughs. To be honest I don't know why I am bothering in this defensive diatribe, I think Icke has some very positive things to say, if you don't want to listen then fine, don't bother.
See- you are taking things to the extreme here... I actually like Icke, read his books (not the new one), watched (and even purchased) most (not sure if I have seen everything he has done) of his Videos that werent availible on Google Vid.
I dont care about, nor am I discussing discrediting Icke. Im not accusing him of Plagiarism... I am merely stating that the article presented credits Icke with basically predicting the NWO... He didnt, people have been talking about this stuff in the United States (probably everywhere) for 100 years.
Icke (even in his videos) uses others research (not faulting him for that either) but I havnt seen him ever present his own regarding the NWO (with the exception of research into the "nature of reality", "reptilians", etc. Things that are not concrete.)
I am saying that this article is crediting Icke with (possibly) being right about the NWO- Yeah, kk. But how is this being credited to Icke?
hometownmaverick
06-09-2009, 11:55 PM
I think there will be a disclosure of the truth in the not too far away future, specially about 9/11. I'm reading so much ignorance and stupidity from people who are making fun of " truthers " and the " conspiracy nutjobs ".
Some day it will be common knowledge what we already knew all the time, and people like Icke will hopefully get the credit they deserve.
Unfortunatly it has always been like this throughout history,I hope that will change after the big change, that is in front of us, good or bad ( and later good ) ;>
blueyonder2012
07-09-2009, 12:02 AM
I think there will be a disclosure of the truth in the not too far away future, specially about 9/11. I'm reading so much ignorance and stupidity from people who are making fun of " truthers " and the " conspiracy nutjobs ".
Some day it will be common knowledge what we already knew all the time, and people like Icke will hopefully get the credit they deserve.
Unfortunatly it has always been like this throughout history,I hope that will change after the big change, that is in front of us, good or bad ( and later good ) ;>
TOO RIGHT: I like John Pilgers Bit at 2:00 "I dont know where people have been the last few years"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj7VDMJZB_s
;)
chipstyxx
07-09-2009, 12:18 AM
See- you are taking things to the extreme here... I actually like Icke, read his books (not the new one), watched (and even purchased) most (not sure if I have seen everything he has done) of his Videos that werent availible on Google Vid.
I dont care about, nor am I discussing discrediting Icke. Im not accusing him of Plagiarism... I am merely stating that the article presented credits Icke with basically predicting the NWO... He didnt, people have been talking about this stuff in the United States (probably everywhere) for 100 years.
Icke (even in his videos) uses others research (not faulting him for that either) but I havnt seen him ever present his own regarding the NWO (with the exception of research into the "nature of reality", "reptilians", etc. Things that are not concrete.)
I am saying that this article is crediting Icke with (possibly) being right about the NWO- Yeah, kk. But how is this being credited to Icke?
Ok, I see what you mean. It's likely that as this is just a small article from one small European country, the author has only ever associated 'nutjob' David Icke, with any NWO themes. That's not to say the author is crediting Icke with any kind of discovery or ownership of a certain genre. I see the article as written by someone who is starting to doubt the official story. It just so happens that they remember Icke as some one that talked about the NWO stuff.
cleopatraxxx
07-09-2009, 12:27 AM
Could you show how Mr Ickes words were taken out of context in the press conference he gave in London. I doubt it because that was what he was saying at the time. So now we have Mr Icke obviously talking BS and you finding the need to back him up despite not knowing the facts. Icke was talking turd like that at the time and you have jumped in to defend him saying things are taken out of context even though he did say it. Do some history on David Icke to save future embarrassment for yourself.
Talk about bloody sheep and sheep dogs.
i believe that life being a process of learning and experiencing teaches us that with time we learn after we made mistakes. some mistakes are incorrectible, others we can correct. Of course one needs to think first before saying anything, but that we also learn with time. Specially if it was such a ridiculous or unacceptable thing, people, because they are normally mean and don't know how to forgive and understand where from and why the statements, people immediately take advatage to ridicule and discriminate and criticise.
ONe should never judge. Imagine yourself in a position where it did really happen to you the vision and hearing of a spirit! what would you think? do how would you react? if the data given to you by this vision was so dramatic and scary for a young unprepared mind!?!?!?! imagine that was you. PUt yourselves in DAVID ICKES SHOES for one second, at leatst that. Give the man the bnefit of the doubt.
You knwo what is most scary? My intuition rarely fails, when i first read and heard of things like anunaki, world order, microchipping, etc... you know what? i didn't hear them from DI, but something spoke louder in me. something told me: RESEARCH, READ< GET MORE vIEWS on this and then decide what feels true. when i did reasearch i was lead to DI forum. research: forever i have done this. so i try not to judge. i listen first, even if i do not agree i still listen first. allow time to show a bit more and then i come to a conslusion.
My conclusion is that DAVID took the risks because he knew down there deep oin him that he was given the knowledge of the truth earlier. his source to him was the most true and believable source, BECAUSE IT WAS HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, AND IT IS PART OF HIS DESTINY. we can only listen and then make our conslusions. But as far as i ma concerned personally, i KNOW/FEEL and now time has shown 9 years after i got aquainted with his material that DAVID ICKE IS RIGHT! right that the NWO he warned us about was taken a s a conspiracy, but it wasn't and is real now, Brown, Bush, Sarkozy all tell us in the official news...and the pandemic which is staged has to be, because nobody will accept microchipping, unless it is injected unkowingly and it can only be done in a scenario like a pandemic...
David Icke is no mad man.
thank You David
Cleo
bluegrazz
07-09-2009, 12:51 AM
i believe that life being a process of learning and experiencing teaches us that with time we learn after we made mistakes. some mistakes are incorrectible, others we can correct. Of course one needs to think first before saying anything, but that we also learn with time. Specially if it was such a ridiculous or unacceptable thing, people, because they are normally mean and don't know how to forgive and understand where from and why the statements, people immediately take advatage to ridicule and discriminate and criticise.
ONe should never judge. Imagine yourself in a position where it did really happen to you the vision and hearing of a spirit! what would you think? do how would you react? if the data given to you by this vision was so dramatic and scary for a young unprepared mind!?!?!?! imagine that was you. PUt yourselves in DAVID ICKES SHOES for one second, at leatst that. Give the man the bnefit of the doubt.
You knwo what is most scary? My intuition rarely fails, when i first read and heard of things like anunaki, world order, microchipping, etc... you know what? i didn't hear them from DI, but something spoke louder in me. something told me: RESEARCH, READ< GET MORE vIEWS on this and then decide what feels true. when i did reasearch i was lead to DI forum. research: forever i have done this. so i try not to judge. i listen first, even if i do not agree i still listen first. allow time to show a bit more and then i come to a conslusion.
My conclusion is that DAVID took the risks because he knew down there deep oin him that he was given the knowledge of the truth earlier. his source to him was the most true and believable source, BECAUSE IT WAS HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, AND IT IS PART OF HIS DESTINY. we can only listen and then make our conslusions. But as far as i ma concerned personally, i KNOW/FEEL and now time has shown 9 years after i got aquainted with his material that DAVID ICKE IS RIGHT! right that the NWO he warned us about was taken a s a conspiracy, but it wasn't and is real now, Brown, Bush, Sarkozy all tell us in the official news...and the pandemic which is staged has to be, because nobody will accept microchipping, unless it is injected unkowingly and it can only be done in a scenario like a pandemic...
David Icke is no mad man.
thank You David
Cleo
Yup- its kinda like how the American Media will label someone a "Flip-Flopper" if their opinion changes... The problem is, opinions have to change with new information or you are merely "clinging to a belief" and "refusing to change".
Now, I think that saying Icke is right is a misnomer. Right about the NWO? probably. Right about a conspiracy? Probably. Right that the queen is Reptile? Heres where I have an issue ith saying "David Icke is Right"
I am also not saying he is wrong (I dont have a clue- I think hes wrong but the Queen could be Godzilla for all I know) but since this is his major contribution to the 'conspiracy', 'patriot' movement (since the NWO part isnt 'his') this is what he should be considered "right' or 'wrong' on- Not something that has written about for a century.
AND- since I have seen no real evidence of a reptilian, Alien agenda I dont see how we are saying 'Icke is Right."
That would be like me (I am actually a newspaper columnist irl) who writes about the NWO and gets credited for predicting the NWO and being right(even though my NWO writings werent published until this year and is all based on existing research) even though the main point of my columns is that the president is a shape shifting chicken (thats not my main point, lol, just theoretically)...
Again, not knocking Icke here- I am nocking the "article" for not mentioning all of Ickes beliefs before crediting him for "truth"
blueyonder2012
07-09-2009, 12:55 AM
Icke came up with on his own (other than the Reptilian Theory and metaphysical stuff regarding "reality" that is speculation and unprovable)
It's NOT theory now: as they say "85% of people dont question authority, the other 15% use there common sence and logic"
ITS BECOMING MAIN STREAM SCIENCE: Its all in the GAME:
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/covers/20090117.jpg
Like David Lynch says at the start of this video encapsulates all of the research: "Read a book . . . ."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oePY_MH3mqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oePY_MH3mqk
;)
bluegrazz
07-09-2009, 01:03 AM
Just because "science" says it makes it so?
In my Country in the early 1900's "science" had proven that criminal tendencies and lunacy could be detected through feeling "bumps on your head" and many folks were institutionalized based on the shape of their head.
Science told us that cigarettes were good for chest colds (menthol's)
Science has put 1/3 of our people on drugs...
If you are just a Hologram, stop eating. Holograms dont need to eat and hunger pains are not "real"
Hell, reality isnt real so nothing must matter right? Were just holograms anyway.
martg
07-09-2009, 02:18 AM
"I think hes wrong but the Queen could be Godzilla for all I know"
LOL Priceless
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8351/rotflmaoke0.gif
clint_giles
07-09-2009, 02:58 AM
TOO RIGHT: I like John Pilgers Bit at 2:00 "I dont know where people have been the last few years"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj7VDMJZB_s
;)
NOT A WAR ON TERRORISM,BUT A WAR OF TERROR....
very very well said.
who is this man?
mrerisian
07-09-2009, 04:16 AM
In years to come I expect to see more and more of these type of articles....and I bet David will get a lot of satisfaction from saying.. I told you so.....
I think that sort of smug attitude is a thorn in the side of this "movement". I really hope Icke is above it and suggest a lot of posters on here get over themselves as well.
You won't convince anyone if you come over all superior and smug. You'll just make people think you're a cock.
mrerisian
07-09-2009, 04:34 AM
Icke was talking turd like that at the time and you have jumped in to defend him saying things are taken out of context even though he did say it. Do some history on David Icke to save future embarrassment for yourself.
Icke openly admits some of his earlier stuff was a little confusing and, I quote, "I did a few things back then that maybe I'm not too proud of"*.
* Interview with Regina from Conscious Media Network. Those interviews are really good. I think he and Regina are old friends so she controls him quite well.
I am not aware of any new theory's Icke came up with on his own (other than the Reptilian Theory and metaphysical stuff regarding "reality" that is speculation and unprovable)
Icke's not a fiction writer so there's nothing wrong with him quoting other people's work so long as he sources it, which he does. Furthermore, and in the same vein, the Lizard stuff isn't something he "invented" it comes from a long tradition that goes back to prehistoric times.
Yup- its kinda like how the American Media will label someone a "Flip-Flopper" if their opinion changes... The problem is, opinions have to change with new information or you are merely "clinging to a belief" and "refusing to change".
Yup. This notion annoys me intensely. People who DO NOT change their minds are the ones who have the problem. Being able to think, reason and alter your stance is a sign of intelligence.
ozpixie
07-09-2009, 06:43 AM
NOT A WAR ON TERRORISM,BUT A WAR OF TERROR....
very very well said.
who is this man?
In a time when there is a lot of fluff and disinformation to wade through, this clip was very good value. TKS to the original poster. :)
blueyonder2012
07-09-2009, 10:15 PM
NOT A WAR ON TERRORISM,BUT A WAR OF TERROR....
very very well said.
who is this man?
John Pilger http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partID=3
I like John Pilgers Bit at 2:00 "I dont know where people have been the last few years"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj7VDMJZB_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj7VDMJZB_s
;)
bowtiedaddy
08-09-2009, 11:30 AM
Yes, it is a democracy. A tyranny, based on the manipulation of the masses to make the majority choose your power, just like every other "democracy" turned into a dictatorship.
How about a constitutional republic? ;) That's a bit better.