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Anders Lindman
20-08-2007, 02:15 PM
The closer to the top of the power pyramid we get, the more the people in those positions are directly dependent on those 'above' them. Oliver North said something like (when interrogated by the court): "If my boss tells me to go to the corner and stand on my head, I will do so!"

There is a sense of security of having a boss to tell oneself what to do. The problem is that one then becomes a total puppet! No intrinsic power within oneself. The only power is then to use what the boss has ordered and rule those 'below' by following the order. This can give a sense of pseudo-power, but it's not real individual power.

The problem is that those higher up in the power pyramid must obey orders or else they are degraded, removed, fired or even killed.

What is needed is some mechanism whereby those higher up in the pyramid of power can escape the clutches of their bossed without fearing to be punished. Does anyone have an idea of how this can be achieved?

One idea is that there are two kinds of agents: (1) agents working for the banking elite, and (2) agents working for business interests. It's only the agents who work for the banking elite who have anything to fear. Maybe they could be recruited by the business team who will then protect them?

dondaz
20-08-2007, 03:01 PM
One idea is that there are two kinds of agents: (1) agents working for the banking elite, and (2) agents working for business interests.

I thought the banking and buisness interests were, on the whole, run by the same families?

What is needed is some mechanism whereby those higher up in the pyramid of power can escape the clutches of their bossed without fearing to be punished. Does anyone have an idea of how this can be achieved?

Give them a David Icke book?

We need free thinking people in parliment to help stop us getting under the full control of the EU. If we keep out of the EU we can do a lot more to expose this NWO monster.

I have found that one way to show others not to fear is to lead by example. The more that speak out, the more people see them doing this, the more likely they will speak out themselves.

I don't think the higher ranks can be turned from the dark side, as it were, they are under too much control and fear.

It is us, the majority in society, that have to take the lead in this info war and stand up for ourselves. and spread the word.

The powers that be have to know we are not afraid of them and their evil ways. I have had to make a stand against people who would chew the Rothchilds and Windsers up and spit them out ten times over. Viscious thugs who are equally as nasty as the royals, just not as rich or organised.

I think it's what we know about ourselves inside that makes us afraid or not.

spiraltrance
20-08-2007, 03:17 PM
We need free thinking people in parliment to help stop us getting under the full control of the EU. If we keep out of the EU we can do a lot more to expose this NWO monster.

The very nature of parliament destroys free thinking and changing the people in parliament is like repairing rot in the foundations of your house by giving the walls a new coat of paint. In fact the NWO will reign indefinitely while people cling to the notion that handing over power to other people and elected bodies to RE-PRESENT them can alter there own circumstances.

Anders Lindman
20-08-2007, 03:25 PM
I just wrote it as a shot in the dark. Or as predictive programming.

But actually I don't think banking interests are the same as business interests. It's true that the bankers have control over all the big corporations. Just as they have control over all governments. So the bankers are above the business leaders. However, many, many business leaders (and also politicians) must be totally fed up with having the bankers always telling them what to do.

bigus_dickus
20-08-2007, 03:32 PM
we all have names and surnames. and in front of them, we have the title "master". although we are not informed that "mr.", "mrs." and "miss" stand for "master" and "mistress" and thus we are part of the power structure pyramid right there at the bottom of it. in greece, the word is "lord", so we are all lords, or at least that's what our papers say. so here we are, undercover members of our local lodge without even noticing it ;)

lydia78
20-08-2007, 03:38 PM
we all have names and surnames. and in front of them, we have the title "master". although we are not informed that "mr.", "mrs." and "miss" stand for "master" and "mistress" and thus we are part of the power structure pyramid right there at the bottom of it. in greece, the word is "lord", so we are all lords, or at least that's what our papers say. so here we are, undercover members of our local lodge without even noticing it ;)

LOL bigus_dickus, very good point actually.....surnames are of interest...."to carry on the family name" takes on new meaning!!:D

cruise4
21-08-2007, 07:52 AM
"handing over power to other people and elected bodies to RE-PRESENT them can alter there own circumstances."

Of course the idea of representatives can work. Just not the way its done now.

People can just leave their jobs can't they Anders? They don't have to publically state their intentions to 'spill the beans' or anything do they?

Anders Lindman
21-08-2007, 08:11 AM
People can just leave their jobs can't they Anders? They don't have to publically state their intentions to 'spill the beans' or anything do they?

I wouldn't bet on it. Take the CIA for example. Behind a semi-secret facade is an entire shadow government with its own rules, and not pleasant rules at that. Not pleasant at all. That's my bet. If a CIA agent as much as farts without permission he or she will get a bullet in the head. Just as JFK. You can't just leave a secrecy monster like that.

My guess at the moment is that CIA is behind most of the illegal drug trafficing in the world, illegal weapon trade, kidnapping, torture, murder, terrorisma and organized crime to just name a few 'markets' for this ever expanding shadow government. It's a cancer. And it is growing day by day.

spiraltrance
21-08-2007, 11:29 AM
Of course the idea of representatives can work. Just not the way its done now.


Ok so how would you intend it be done? Maybe a system where we vote for the representatives to represent us or where before any law is passed our so called representatives debate the pros and cons in parliament? Isn't that what we have already yet the system is still highly incompetant? And please don't say 'but we need a new way of doing things' or 'new people in there' because that's just repeating david cameron.

2013
21-08-2007, 11:36 AM
we all have names and surnames. and in front of them, we have the title "master". although we are not informed that "mr.", "mrs." and "miss" stand for "master" and "mistress" and thus we are part of the power structure pyramid right there at the bottom of it. in greece, the word is "lord", so we are all lords, or at least that's what our papers say. so here we are, undercover members of our local lodge without even noticing it ;)

Thanks for that insight , i never like being called MR or signing it , i usually say my name is steve when address officialy as MR .Although to master onesel:Df is something different .

cruise4
21-08-2007, 11:51 AM
Ok so how would you intend it be done? Maybe a system where we vote for the representatives to represent us or where before any law is passed our so called representatives debate the pros and cons in parliament? Isn't that what we have already yet the system is still highly incompetant? And please don't say 'but we need a new way of doing things' or 'new people in there' because that's just repeating david cameron.

Your statement rules out any response as you say the old and the new is no good. If thats not what you intended...

I like the idea of a broad based Meritocracy, but this requires debate on what segments within society exist as segments and how to elect representatives for each segment. How often this 'council' meet and where, would also have to be established. The decisions would be made by the people in their segment wherever possible. As this all needs to be a part of a complete society change, the discussion would have to be as conditions will exist, rather than now.

Anders Lindman
21-08-2007, 12:09 PM
My guess at the moment is that CIA is behind most of the illegal drug trafficing in the world, illegal weapon trade, kidnapping, torture, murder, terrorisma and organized crime to just name a few 'markets' for this ever expanding shadow government. It's a cancer. And it is growing day by day.

And the expansion is not only within the CIA itself and its sister organizations like FEMA and NSA. Through Executive Orders for Homeland security and the PATRIOT act and so on, the shadow government is now expanding into the American public society.

Who will gain more power through laws like the PATRIOT act? That's something to think about.

noewhan
13-10-2010, 09:00 AM
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