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apemachine
13-02-2007, 04:25 AM
I would like to see a forum were we can discuss the use, effects and experiences of different drugs. Also, what is the reason for natural drugs being illegal? I believe the use (note, not misuse) of drugs could help a lot of humans to get a better life. For instance I have had many eye-opening experiences on psychadelic mushrooms which I would like to share and discuss with other users on this forum.

Any chance of this happening?

drgonzo
13-02-2007, 04:32 AM
I would love to see a forum like this, I don't know if theres a enough members that would use it though. I guess that's what this thread is here for..

apemachine
13-02-2007, 04:38 AM
I would love to see a forum like this, I don't know if theres a enough members that would use it though. I guess that's what this thread is here for..

From my experiences with people, many who are open minded have had experiences with drugs more than one time, so there should be some of us here at least. Of course I am not saying that you have to use drugs to be open-minded, that would be ridiculous.

One more thing came to mind.. The global drugcompanies and their hypocracy, man-made chemical drugs who destroys our bodies and gimps our minds are flooding mankind while at the same time natural drugs that have hundreds of true medical purposes, like cannabis, are being furiously fought.

luther
13-02-2007, 04:40 AM
Natural "drugs" are only negative if you take to much. Weed for instance is positive until 2 inhalations then it becomes negative. They temporarily extent perception and that can be valuable sometimes. However if you take to much then you loose control over the experience and that can be very bad. Also the environment you are in at the time has an amplified influence. Its best to do these things by yourself someplace safe.

Life & Laughter
Luther

drgonzo
13-02-2007, 04:44 AM
One more thing came to mind.. The global drugcompanies and their hypocracy, man-made chemical drugs who destroys our bodies and gimps our minds are flooding mankind while at the same time natural drugs that have hundreds of true medical purposes, like cannabis, are being furiously fought.

I got alot of good information on stuff like that, I'll hold off on posting it till we find out if the forum is a go or not though. General is already clogged up enough. Great to see someone with similar ideas.

oneofmany
13-02-2007, 04:55 AM
Natural "drugs" are only negative if you take to much. Weed for instance is positive until 2 inhalations then it becomes negative. They temporarily extent perception and that can be valuable sometimes. However if you take to much then you loose control over the experience and that can be very bad. Also the environment you are in at the time has an amplified influence. Its best to do these things by yourself someplace safe.

Life & Laughter
Luther

This response sounds like you've never smoked pot before in your life, coz any true pot smoker will tell you that one hit ain't enough. just gettin warmed up by then

luther
13-02-2007, 04:58 AM
I assure you that i have smoked pot many many times.

jimijams
13-02-2007, 05:03 AM
Mushroom forum
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/2
Ayahuasca forum
http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/

drgonzo
13-02-2007, 05:04 AM
It really depends on the quality and the method used. Also different people will lose "control" at different levels. I've always been able to maintain control no matter what the dosage, nor have I had any bad experiences. But again, it effects people differently.

apemachine
13-02-2007, 05:07 AM
Mushroom forum
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/2
Ayahuasca forum
http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/

Since I'm not a member of any other forum, because all the forums I've ever seen has given me a bad vibe. I've tried sometimes but given up. This place I'm giving a chance though, since it gives me a good vibe. :)

I'm not interested in seeking out other forums regarding the subject at hand, but thanks for posting the links anyway. Maybe someone else can use them.

jimijams
13-02-2007, 05:13 AM
Since I'm not a member of any other forum, because all the forums I've ever seen has given me a bad vibe. I've tried sometimes but given up. This place I'm giving a chance though, since it gives me a good vibe. :)

I'm not interested in seeking out other forums regarding the subject at hand, but thanks for posting the links anyway. Maybe someone else can use them.
If you want to go into depth on the subject dedicated forums are the best bet, or the Matrix/nature of reality forum already has some related threads maybe you could use that to start some threads.

Having a dedicated thread on drugs may attract unwanted attention to this forum and may not be appropriate.
Just my opinion.

luther
13-02-2007, 05:20 AM
well said dr gonzo.

apemachine
13-02-2007, 05:20 AM
If you want to go into depth on the subject dedicated forums are the best bet, or the Matrix/nature of reality forum already has some related threads maybe you could use that to start some threads.

Having a dedicated thread on drugs may attract unwanted attention to this forum and may not be appropriate.
Just my opinion.

I feel I wasn't clear enough. I read on a lot of forums and I'm a frequent visitor to erowid. It's just that I don't get involved in the threads, that's why I feel the need for a forum on this topic here on David Icke Forum.

I've thought about that regarding the Matrix/Nature of Reality-forum, but first I'm going to see if there is a possibility to get a dedicated forum.

I don't think a drug-forum would attract more unwanted attention than what is already brought. That's just my opinion. :)

limelady
13-02-2007, 06:12 AM
I personally don't have a problem with people discussing their drug use in here, particularly if you have experiences to share of an 'other dimensional' nature, but it may pay you all to remember the substances you will be discussing are illegal. I don't necessarily agree with them being illlegal because having looked into this subject myself it woud seem most of the laws involved are in place to either protect the pharmaceutical industry or keep street drug prices high for the illegal drugs trade - all run by the same people.

But just thought it wise to warn you to perhaps be a little discret with information.

eternal_spirit
13-02-2007, 11:50 AM
That's true about the legal prescription drugs Lime.
Marijuana was the most commonly used herb not that long ago in medicine before it was made ilegal!
It is one of the least toxic substances known to man, with no nasty side effects, no nasty chemicals lingering in the body for years later unlike so called modern medicine.

jimijams
13-02-2007, 12:19 PM
no nasty side effects
I have to disagree with you there, this depends on the person. I have had quite a few people close to me have major problems with THC, in one case causing acute psychosis and schizophrenia in another. One of my friends tried it only once and had to be on anti-anxiety medication for a year. It depends on the individual make-up of the person, I have smoked it myself for over twenty years and never had a problem but thats just me.

Most people will never have a problem with pot but there does seem to be a percentage af the population that do.

eternal_spirit
13-02-2007, 01:25 PM
[QUOTE=jimijams;7201]I have to disagree with you there, this depends on the person. I have had quite a few people close to me have major problems with THC, in one case causing acute psychosis and schizophrenia in another. One of my friends tried it only once and had to be on anti-anxiety medication for a year. It depends on the individual make-up of the person, I have smoked it myself for over twenty years and never had a problem but thats just me.

Most people will never have a problem with pot but there does seem to be a percentage af the population that do.[/QUOTE

That's the most ridiculous story I've ever heard.
Sounds like you're friends Doctor misdiagnosed the problem and blamed it on the marijuana (a scapegoat) I'm guessing it was stress or something else going on in you're friends life that made him anxious?
Antianxiety medication has many bad side effects including making some people (more anxious) not to mention the other mental and physical effects.

I know what I'm talking about I've experienced the negative effects of these so called antianxiety anti deppressants.

jimijams
13-02-2007, 02:04 PM
[QUOTE=jimijams;7201]I have to disagree with you there, this depends on the person. I have had quite a few people close to me have major problems with THC, in one case causing acute psychosis and schizophrenia in another. One of my friends tried it only once and had to be on anti-anxiety medication for a year. It depends on the individual make-up of the person, I have smoked it myself for over twenty years and never had a problem but thats just me.

Most people will never have a problem with pot but there does seem to be a percentage af the population that do.[/QUOTE

That's the most ridiculous story I've ever heard.
Sounds like you're friends Doctor misdiagnosed the problem and blamed it on the marijuana (a scapegoat) I'm guessing it was stress or something else going on in you're friends life that made him anxious?
Antianxiety medication has many bad side effects including making some people (more anxious) not to mention the other mental and physical effects.

I know what I'm talking about I've experienced the negative effects of these so called antianxiety anti deppressants.

It was three seperate cases I was talking about not one, anyway beside the point. It appears you have a particular belief system to support and thats your business not mine.
I will say though that you original comment is naïve to say the least and your response to my post condescending and ignorant.

amar7
13-02-2007, 07:57 PM
[QUOTE=jimijams;7201]I have to disagree with you there, this depends on the person. I have had quite a few people close to me have major problems with THC, in one case causing acute psychosis and schizophrenia in another. One of my friends tried it only once and had to be on anti-anxiety medication for a year. It depends on the individual make-up of the person, I have smoked it myself for over twenty years and never had a problem but thats just me.

Most people will never have a problem with pot but there does seem to be a percentage af the population that do.[/QUOTE

That's the most ridiculous story I've ever heard.
Sounds like you're friends Doctor misdiagnosed the problem and blamed it on the marijuana (a scapegoat) I'm guessing it was stress or something else going on in you're friends life that made him anxious?
Antianxiety medication has many bad side effects including making some people (more anxious) not to mention the other mental and physical effects.

I know what I'm talking about I've experienced the negative effects of these so called antianxiety anti deppressants.

thats very true! cannabis is good for most but not for everyone..

eternal_spirit
13-02-2007, 09:32 PM
[QUOTE=eternal_spirit;7216]

It was three seperate cases I was talking about not one, anyway beside the point. It appears you have a particular belief system to support and thats your business not mine.
I will say though that you original comment is naïve to say the least and your response to my post condescending and ignorant.

I agree some people may have a negative reaction to marijuana.
The point I was trying to make is marijuana could be used to cure many illnesses without the negative side effects some other prescribed medicines can have.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
14-02-2007, 09:07 AM
I've decided that after I've gone through my trials of completely searching my dark self. I want to try DMT.

I know it's hardcore. But I've been readnig about it(still more reading to do),but from what I read, I have to try it just once.

jimijams
14-02-2007, 09:16 AM
[QUOTE=jimijams;7223]

I agree some people may have a negative reaction to marijuana.
The point I was trying to make is marijuana could be used to cure many illnesses without the negative side effects some other prescribed medicines can have.
Marijuana to my knowledge has never been found to actually cure any disease, but it can be helpful in relieving the pain and nausea of many ailments.
But I understand your point and wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment.:)

apemachine
14-02-2007, 06:44 PM
I've decided that after I've gone through my trials of completely searching my dark self. I want to try DMT.

I know it's hardcore. But I've been readnig about it(still more reading to do),but from what I read, I have to try it just once.

If you haven't already I think you should try some psychadelics that are lighter (not light) than DMT.. Like mushrooms, LSD and perhaps salvia. Although salvia is extreme the effects are very shortlasting and the experience only lasts a couple of minutes.

apemachine
15-02-2007, 12:36 PM
So.. Admins and moderators, what say you? Yay or nay?

amar7
15-02-2007, 03:32 PM
its not only your suggestion for a drug forum, make more on this:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=987