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bicycle
19-08-2007, 11:54 PM
Just heard Swerdlow on the radio talking about jupiter becoming a second sun and that those pearls of 'objects' that impacted jupiter a few years ago have something to do with this, so essentially this solar system is destined to become a binary star system:eek:

alexph777
19-08-2007, 11:55 PM
I think Authur C Clarke new more than what he was telling in his book 2010 space odessey.

cf24
20-08-2007, 12:02 AM
I think the reason for this is they want to move loads of us to other planets and Jupiter will need to be a sun to create the right enviroment for us to live there....

bicycle
20-08-2007, 12:05 AM
I think the reason for this is they want to move loads of us to other planets and Jupiter will need to be a sun to create the right enviroment for us to live there....


Who is they?

cf24
20-08-2007, 12:07 AM
NWO, reptillians, hybrids, illuminati. Whatever you want to call them....

bicycle
20-08-2007, 12:09 AM
NWO, reptillians, hybrids, illuminati. Whatever you want to call them....

I'll be ok, I havent got a passport:)

cf24
20-08-2007, 12:11 AM
I'll be ok, I havent got a passport:)

I wont be going either....

bicycle
20-08-2007, 12:14 AM
I wont be going either....

Not even if they have lots of sheep , male voice choirs and rugby on saturdays?

cf24
20-08-2007, 12:27 AM
Nah, not even for that. lol.

Couldn't think of much worse really.....

holydiver55
20-08-2007, 01:04 AM
If its going to be an all female planet then Im going!
:D

cheeb
20-08-2007, 01:27 AM
Not even if they have lots of sheep , male voice choirs and rugby on saturdays?
That is tantamount to racism,
Your holiday cottages will burn,
The sons of Glendower are outraged,
And when my mate ,
Mad dog Daffid gets his dole money,
watch out.

Goldie Lookin Chain (GLC): Leisurewear '07 - YouTube

boyos
:cool:

revolution 9
20-08-2007, 05:16 AM
If its going to be an all female planet then Im going!
:D

Are you a girl?

sentient
20-08-2007, 05:40 AM
I think Swerdlow is a dis-informer, still under serious control. Perhaps his intent is good, but I've read "Blue Blood, True Blood" and it's really difficult to take seriously.

I actually contacted him once regarding an experience I've had before I knew anything about Icke or Reptilians.

First of all, I saw a UFO in my area. It glowed orange, seemingly having no solidity, and it was almond shaped. At the larger end of it there was a pulsating red light.

Sometime after this I had a dream where I was in a small room, and in front of me was a hallway. Its walls seemed to be walls of light, and at the end of it was a dark doorway. At the foot of this hallway lies a golden being, looking like it was asleep or dead. I walk over to it, examine its skin, and I see scales. Then I back away and sit on a couch that was in this room. I then look over at it, and it's looking back, eyes glowing orange like the ship. At this moment I get an extremely sharp pain in my head. My eyes close, and I'm seeing myself sitting on an operating table, in a round room; the only light available coming from a strange fixture above me, and from that hallway.

Soon after this I notice a small incision on my right ear, like a needle had gone through. The funny thing about this is that from this point on I had an increase in comprehension. I began to really understand things like I never have before. I can't say it's in relation to what may have happened, but the timing is synchronistic.

So, I contacted Swerdlow on the matter, and he tells me how ETs have not visited our planet for a long, long time, and that what I saw in my dream was an implanted memory while a chip was either implanted or replaced. So he thinks it had to have been a government operation. I really don't know what to think about it, except that it hasn't interfered with my cognition negatively. If it's simply a tracking device, it hasn't been used to my disadvantage.

Any thoughts on this?

barbitone
20-08-2007, 07:53 AM
So, I contacted Swerdlow on the matter, and he tells me how ETs have not visited our planet for a long, long time, and that what I saw in my dream was an implanted memory while a chip was either implanted or replaced.

I don't know how Swerdlow came up with that one?:rolleyes:

cf24
20-08-2007, 11:16 AM
I'm still undecided on Swedlow, his claims are outlandish to say the least, but he does sing from the same hymn sheet as David Icke on such a lot of subjects. I'm sure David has taken a lot of ideas from him. The one thing he has going from him is he tells you to look inside for your answers, and tells you to question all that he says, try it and if it feels good then continue.

I have read Blue blood true blood, and if most of what he says is true, then the leap of faith people will have to take from current beliefs is astronomical to say the least. I thought icke was 'out there' when I first read his stuff, but now I get pretty much all of it, so perhaps its just digesting Swerdlow's info and then giving it time to come to your own conclusions again....

cf24
20-08-2007, 11:40 AM
That is tantamount to racism,
Your holiday cottages will burn,
The sons of Glendower are outraged,
And when my mate ,
Mad dog Daffid gets his dole money,
watch out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggI6ZDbpvC4

boyos
:cool:

You knows it.....

tinmenace
20-08-2007, 12:29 PM
I'll be ok, I havent got a passport:)

Hope you're not behind on any child-support (if you live in the USA). Anyone owing more than $2500 in child-support cannot get a passport. :confused:

cf24
20-08-2007, 12:39 PM
Hope you're not behind on any child-support (if you live in the USA). Anyone owing more than $2500 in child-support cannot get a passport. :confused:

They have talked about doing the same here in the uk. If you don't pay child maintenance or if your in dispute with the CSA(child support agency) then you could have your passport taken away. Absolutely disgusting.

Due to the incompetence of the CSA, I think they would have a difficult time pushing it through over here.

America is truly fucked, I can't believe the changes over there since 9/11. Its more staggering that the average American hasn't taken to the streets in a national protest etc.

revolution....

tinmenace
20-08-2007, 12:43 PM
They have talked about doing the same here in the uk. If you don't pay child maintenance or if your in dispute with the CSA(child support agency) then you could have your passport taken away. Absolutely disgusting.

Due to the incompetence of the CSA, I think they would have a difficult time pushing it through over here.

America is truly fucked, I can't believe the changes over there since 9/11. Its more staggering that the average American hasn't taken to the streets in a national protest etc.

revolution....

Totally love your avatar, btw :D

Yes, Child Support has nothing to do with Passport. But, it's sick how they will use any excuse to restrict people's freedom.

Bastards!

cf24
20-08-2007, 12:59 PM
Totally love your avatar, btw :D

Yes, Child Support has nothing to do with Passport. But, it's sick how they will use any excuse to restrict people's freedom.

Bastards!




Thank you...:D

supertzar
20-08-2007, 01:44 PM
Stewart makes a distinction between aliens and ET's. Aliens are physical and ET's are non-physical. Do you have the exact words he wrote to you, Sentient?

tejas
20-08-2007, 01:54 PM
I'm still undecided on Swedlow, his claims are outlandish to say the least, but he does sing from the same hymn sheet as David Icke on such a lot of subjects. I'm sure David has taken a lot of ideas from him. The one thing he has going from him is he tells you to look inside for your answers, and tells you to question all that he says, try it and if it feels good then continue.

I have read Blue blood true blood, and if most of what he says is true, then the leap of faith people will have to take from current beliefs is astronomical to say the least. I thought icke was 'out there' when I first read his stuff, but now I get pretty much all of it, so perhaps its just digesting Swerdlow's info and then giving it time to come to your own conclusions again....

I agree, I am also very unsure about Swedlow - he introduces a lot of hebrew mythology into what he says and it seems very unreal.

supertzar
20-08-2007, 02:19 PM
Jupiter's transformation is imminent according to Stewart, by the way. It's supposed to happen in 2010.

bicycle
20-08-2007, 02:24 PM
Jupiter's transformation is imminent according to Stewart, by the way. It's supposed to happen in 2010.

Better stock up on some suntan lotion then:)

sentient
20-08-2007, 02:39 PM
Stewart makes a distinction between aliens and ET's. Aliens are physical and ET's are non-physical. Do you have the exact words he wrote to you, Sentient?

This was quite a while ago, so no, but his point was that I couldn't have been abducted or implanted by anything other than the government. I think that's bullshit.

cf24
20-08-2007, 02:46 PM
Jupiter's transformation is imminent according to Stewart, by the way. It's supposed to happen in 2010.

He has been right on some of his predictions, but some of them have happened years after the dates he predicted them on, so we will have to wait and see.

lifeofbrian
20-08-2007, 04:52 PM
Swerdlow is one of the vanguards I deeply respect.

survivor1
20-08-2007, 05:23 PM
I think Authur C Clarke new more than what he was telling in his book 2010 space odessey.

In the book it was Saturn, in the film it was Jupiter because they couldn't replicate the rings using special effects.
Good point though, I agree.

hagbard_celine
20-08-2007, 10:33 PM
In the book it was Saturn, in the film it was Jupiter because they couldn't replicate the rings using special effects.
Good point though, I agree.

That's the first book, 2001. In 2010 it was Jupiter to merge it with the plot from the movie.

After Jupiter changes to a star it's called Lucifer. Well well well, you've probably heard of the Lucifer Project.

hagbard_celine
20-08-2007, 10:37 PM
Jupiter's transformation is imminent according to Stewart, by the way. It's supposed to happen in 2010.

If the Lucifer Project goes ahead then next year we'll have Saturn as a sun! so our solar system won't be just a binary, it will be a triple sun system!

Funny you should bring this up: A friend of mine has left her job and is moving to the Scottish Highlands with her husband to try and escape the effects of the Lucifer Project. She says that the when the sky turns red it will be a sign that Saturn is transforming.

I'll really miss her actually because she's one of the few people I know who I can discuss this kind of stuff with. Obviously most other people think I'm nuts!

cruise4
21-08-2007, 07:24 AM
Perhaps Europa is already teeming with life and their new sun allows them to come here en masse rapidly. Thats the big secret. Its Europans, not the Europeans we have to worry about.

bicycle
21-08-2007, 12:32 PM
Conspiratorial theory and timeline of events (speculations and wild conjectures are italicized)


1945 (July)-- we ignite our first atom bomb

1950 -- a team is assembled to study how this new technology can be used to create a star. Some of the world's best scientists work on it secretly. This group is the “JASON Group” within the “JASON Society”, a think tank of geniuses that work full time to solve many major science problems.

1968 – Arthur C. Clarke promotes the “Lucifer Project” in books and movies entitled 2001 and 2010, using Saturn initially, but is later told to use Jupiter. (Once something spectacular occurs in a movie, it takes on a non-real possibility) 1972 – William Cooper sees or hears of the “Lucifer Project” during his time with the U.S. Naval Intelligence Briefing Team. 1983 – An unnamed craft or “lost” craft is secretly sent on a course to nudge a comet currently on a near collision course with Jupiter to a direct collision course with Jupiter. 1989 – Galileo is launched with two secret missions: 1) Collect information about the interior of gas giants using data from an upcoming comet collision with Jupiter (SL-9). 2) Impact Jupiter to ignite it, or if that fails, to collect more information about the interior by igniting as far beneath the atmosphere as possible, thereby bringing the interior to the surface. 1990 – William Cooper exposes the reality of the “Lucifer Project” in his book “Behold, A Pale Horse”. 1991 – Galileo's main antenna supposedly deploys incorrectly. In reality, the antenna is fine and is being used to send the prime data to a few elite “higher-ups”.

1994 – Someone “in the know” helps Shoemaker spot the comet and the proper viewing is set up with Hubble and Galileo, etc. The high quality Galileo-SL-9 imagery and data is kept from the general public. 1994 – Data collected from the SL-9 collision is used to tweak the specifications of the Cassini RTG setup in order to improve the odds of a Saturn ignition.

1997 – Shoemaker is killed in a car crash in Australia. I am not aware of any evidence of foul play. 1997- Cassini is launched for Saturn with a tremendous load of Pu-238 dioxide (72 lbs!), many times the amount actually needed to run the craft's instruments. 2003 – NASA scientists decide to plunge Galileo into Jupiter after claiming there is no other logical option after initially implying that the craft would be sent to deep space, crashed into a moon, or left in orbit. 2003 (July) Geographer, J.C. Goliathan publishes a report stating that a nuclear reaction is slightly possible if Galileo goes into Jupiter. 25 2003 (early Sept) Physicist, Jacco van der Worp publishes a report warning of what could happen if Galileo plunges into Jupiter citing Goliathan's report and actually crunching the numbers to prove it. Jacco sites the low probability, but believes the risk is high enough to warrant a warning. 2003 (Sept. 21) Galileo dives into Jupiter at the equator. As was likely expected, nothing happens. Then 4 weeks later: 2003 (Oct. 19) Olivier Meeckers images a “mystery spot” the size of Earth with a streak trailing away near the equator of Jupiter. All other professional telescopes ignore the spot! 2003 (late Oct.) Richard C. Hoagland publishes a report detailing the entire amazing scenario showing that the “mystery spot” is most likely Galileo's plutonium that had drifted down 700 miles into Jupiter at 1 mph for most of the trip! 2004- Cassini arrives at Saturn to study the system. The start of attempt #2. 2005 (early) - Cassini-launched Huygens probe studies Titan in depth revealing its primordial earthlike attributes.

2008 (early July to late July) – Cassini plunges into a polar region of Saturn in order to increase acceleration of gravity before impact (Saturn is very oblate). This will give the pellets a head start and a much greater penetration depth than if the equator were used. Also the polar region is less likely to have a storm brewing. A few days later, or maybe weeks later, the plutonium pellets reach crush depth and implode 15-25% of the way to the center of Saturn and igniting it entirely into a star. NASA does not have to officially deny responsibility because the question is never asked of them “Did Cassini cause this?” just as they were never questioned about the mystery Jupiter spot at the point where Galileo went in. The trick has been all along how to get the pellets in deep enough for a significant disturbance to occur. Saturn allows this with much less density than Jupiter and less of a radius to start with especially going into Saturn at its pole where the radius is 10% less than Saturn at the equator. Jupiter may have been a hopeful first try and more of a test or precursor to Saturn. Even A.C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick originally envisioned Saturn as the best candidate. Another thing to note is that a Saturn ignition is much safer for Earth than a Jupiter ignition as far as ejecta disturbing our atmosphere. The amount of ionized hydrogen that reaches us from Saturn will be a fraction of that from a Jupiter ignition, but still risky . I estimate the mass of ionized hydrogen intercepted by the Earth to average .015 kg/m2/day for every square meter of the Earth for about two weeks and traveling at high speeds. During the last couple days heavier elements will reach the Earth in smaller quantities. 2008 (late July) – The new star is named, possibly Lucifer, or a derivative of that. The “sign from the heavens” is used to ordain a great world leader, or a leader who had just taken power prior to the event.

2008 (Jul/Aug/Sept) – After a few weeks of 24/7 talk of the implications, causes, effects, etc. of the new star, Earth begins to get showered with the ejecta from Saturn. The shower lasts 2 to 3 weeks and includes some heavier elements towards the end. This directly or indirectly kills millions of people and animals on Earth - a great boost for population control. Those “in the know” hide out in underground cities and bunkers for several weeks to several months until Earth's ozone shell has recovered. 2009 – The new world reality sets in. After coping with the effects of the event, the survivors find that having a second sun is novel. Earth is completely changed, all infrastructures, political structures, and religions are thrust into chaos. The strongest surviving military force soon takes control of the Earth. 2010 – A call goes up to investigate and explore the new system of Saturn/Titan. 365/24/7 time and unlimited resources go into the new international venture. Terraforming plans start on a grand scale.

2033 - Humans set foot on an earthlike Titan.


References:

1. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/cassini-essay/html/6.html

2. http://www.monarchnote.com/basementpapers/papers/stack14_10.html

3. Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary – Tenth Edition

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14. “Behold A Pale Horse” pg. 72, William Cooper 1991

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22. “Ancient Operative Masonry and the Mysteries of Antiquity” pg. 25, S.R. Parchment

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28. http://www.fas.org/rlg

father ted
21-08-2007, 01:15 PM
If the Lucifer Project goes ahead then next year we'll have Saturn as a sun! so our solar system won't be just a binary, it will be a triple sun system!

Funny you should bring this up: A friend of mine has left her job and is moving to the Scottish Highlands with her husband to try and escape the effects of the Lucifer Project. She says that the when the sky turns red it will be a sign that Saturn is transforming.

I'll really miss her actually because she's one of the few people I know who I can discuss this kind of stuff with. Obviously most other people think I'm nuts!

Swerdlow says it's impossible to have a trinary star system (due to physics), and that sirius is a binary not a trinary star system, trinary being dis-info (new age). He also says the second sun will cause more moisture to fill the atmosphere blocking out the suns turning our temperature cooler, best move to the equator:D:eek::confused::eek:

I had a dream about this last night, man, you should have seen the sight!!!!:eek: and a few other nights.

father ted
21-08-2007, 01:18 PM
In the book it was Saturn, in the film it was Jupiter because they couldn't replicate the rings using special effects.
Good point though, I agree.

Saturn, jupiter, what's the difference?:D

mada88
21-08-2007, 01:31 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Vz532wUmM

It is a lot like 2010, great film btw.

tinmenace
21-08-2007, 01:47 PM
Take a look at this cool myspace ( http://www.myspace.com/dwarfplanetpride ) about planets and what qualifies as a planet.

hagbard_celine
22-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Perhaps Europa is already teeming with life and their new sun allows them to come here en masse rapidly. Thats the big secret. Its Europans, not the Europeans we have to worry about.

That's what happened in the third book of the series "2061". The people of Earth gradually get used to Lucifer, but the aliens have forbidden them to land on Europa. Then one spaceship is hijacked and lands there... but I won't spoil it for you.

hagbard_celine
22-08-2007, 09:41 PM
Swerdlow says it's impossible to have a trinary star system (due to physics), and that sirius is a binary not a trinary star system, trinary being dis-info (new age). He also says the second sun will cause more moisture to fill the atmosphere blocking out the suns turning our temperature cooler, best move to the equator:D:eek::confused::eek:

I had a dream about this last night, man, you should have seen the sight!!!!:eek: and a few other nights.

Dreams can tell you a lot!

If the Lucifer Project goes ahead though, I've heard that the solar system will be swamped with radiation. This could be the "eschaton" that we've been told about. The final push by the Illuminati for global control.

tejas
22-08-2007, 10:45 PM
I think this is ridiculous. The amount of energy required to create a star is enormous. A few atomic bombs won't do anything, you need at least 10 to the power 9 or something bombs. Or maybe more, and that is just in a minute. Stars use a stupid amount of energy, a gaseous atmosphere filled planet just wont do the job, it might last a few weeks, but then everything will burn out. There is just no way it is possible.

There are so many problems with this idea it hurts, anyone who has studied physics at a-level or any level will tell you. Im not saying its not possible, (its about as possible as Icke being a giant pink bunny rabbit from the planet Omacron Persion 8i is possible) Its just INCREDIBLY INCREDIBLY INprobable.

Jupiter is FAR too small to become a star, and it simply does not have the fuel to do so.

Another reason why I think Swerdlow is full of it.

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/sun/images/sun_jove_earth_size_compare.jpg

bicycle
22-08-2007, 10:50 PM
I think this is ridiculous. The amount of energy required to create a star is enormous. A few atomic bombs won't do anything, you need at least 10 to the power 9 or something bombs. Or maybe more, and that is just in a minute. Stars use a stupid amount of energy, a gaseous atmosphere filled planet just wont do the job, it might last a few weeks, but then everything will burn out. There is just no way it is possible.


We live in an infinite multiverse with infinite possibilities, remember "Wisdom is knowing how little we know," - Socrates ;)

tejas
22-08-2007, 11:08 PM
We live in an infinite multiverse with infinite possibilities, remember "Wisdom is knowing how little we know," - Socrates ;)

Yes I agree, thats why Im saying its possible. BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE GOD :)

bicycle
22-08-2007, 11:17 PM
Yes I agree, thats why Im saying its possible. BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE GOD :)

We are all aspects of god, or all of the same energy experiencing itself subjectively.

tejas
22-08-2007, 11:32 PM
We are all aspects of god, or all of the same energy experiencing itself subjectively.

I knew you were going to say that :P

Yes we are all an aspect of God, however In my current human form I do not posses the ability to create stars by my own will alone!

Not yet anyway

bicycle
22-08-2007, 11:41 PM
I knew you were going to say that :P

Yes we are all an aspect of God, however In my current human form I do not posses the ability to create stars by my own will alone!

Not yet anyway

No need you allready have.

tejas
22-08-2007, 11:50 PM
No need you allready have.

Yea but I want to do it now..

irak
23-08-2007, 01:03 AM
[QUOTE=tejas;105044]I think this is ridiculous. The amount of energy required to create a star is enormous. A few atomic bombs won't do anything, you need at least 10 to the power 9 or something bombs. Or maybe more, and that is just in a minute. Stars use a stupid amount of energy, a gaseous atmosphere filled planet just wont do the job, it might last a few weeks, but then everything will burn out. There is just no way it is possible.







http://www.nonk.info/cool_pictures/cool_pictures/biggest_bomb_in_history_tsar_bomba.php

how bout now?

tejas
23-08-2007, 12:00 PM
[QUOTE=tejas;105044]I think this is ridiculous. The amount of energy required to create a star is enormous. A few atomic bombs won't do anything, you need at least 10 to the power 9 or something bombs. Or maybe more, and that is just in a minute. Stars use a stupid amount of energy, a gaseous atmosphere filled planet just wont do the job, it might last a few weeks, but then everything will burn out. There is just no way it is possible.







http://www.nonk.info/cool_pictures/cool_pictures/biggest_bomb_in_history_tsar_bomba.php

how bout now?


Yeah you would need about a trillion trillion trillion of those to run a star for about 2 seconds.
I dont think you understand what I mean. Stars need a constant FUEL source, An atomic bomb isnt a fuel source its just an ignition. Its like comparing a match to a bottle of kerosine. You need both to run a gas-heater! The idea that the atmosphere of the planet is enough to create a fuel source is preposterous.
Most stars fuel sources lie in the center, where an insane atomic fusion occurs as the stars mass is turned into energy.

Hey I could be wrong, but the likelyhood of this is so miniscule.

father ted
23-08-2007, 01:23 PM
Remember the string of pearl commets? I feel that that incident was too perfect and planned, I mean, a string of commets like that seems so unlikley and staged.

2013
23-08-2007, 01:42 PM
Maybe its not intended to be a permanant sun just as long as it is seen as one and produces the desired effects on this planet anything is a bonus to them .what no one is taking into consideration is the conciousness of the planet itself and the effect of it becoming a star would be on the universe and our own conciousness:D

intruder
23-08-2007, 02:36 PM
I thought that plan was the "cassini project" in which SATURN is to be ignited via plutonium to herald in the NEW WORLD ORDER....

damn, as if I'll get to see ANY of this stuff!!!

intruder
23-08-2007, 02:38 PM
creating a new sun is not sufficient... what about precious H2O and a moon to help balance the planet and tidal effects.....IT'S ALL A LOAD OF CRAP!!!!

bicycle
23-08-2007, 03:39 PM
Yea but I want to do it now..


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shottie
23-08-2007, 11:13 PM
If its going to be an all female planet then Im going!
:D

Why are you all female?

ninpo
23-08-2007, 11:18 PM
Just heard Swerdlow on the radio talking about jupiter becoming a second sun and that those pearls of 'objects' that impacted jupiter a few years ago have something to do with this, so essentially this solar system is destined to become a binary star system:eek:

Tell him to quit smoking so much crack.

bicycle
24-08-2007, 02:38 PM
Tell him to quit smoking so much crack.

You tell him.

If I tell him he might remote view me or something dodgey like that:eek:

ninpo
24-08-2007, 04:46 PM
You tell him.

If I tell him he might remote view me or something dodgey like that:eek:

I am trying to tell him, but the mods here keep telling me they are going to ban me.

Weird.

chicken_little
24-08-2007, 04:47 PM
This whole idea of turning Saturn or Jupiter into a star makes no sense. I agree with the comment that it's VERY INprobable from an energy point of view. But there's more to think about than that.

Thanks to Isaac Newton we understand that gravity helps the solar system to maintain it's current system of orbits. Each planet, satellite, and I imagine even the sum mass of the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, all play a role in the delicate balance of the orbits. Now if Saturn or Jupiter are somehow turned into a star, who knows what affect that would have on the rest of the things that currently orbit the sun. I mean, in order to maintain an ongoing reaction such as that going on with the Sun, a lot of fuel is required...and that fuel would have to come from the mass that is currently either Saturn or Jupiter. Thus some of the matter currently making up the planet to be ignited would be lost as energy, and it's total mass would decrease, which would in turn affect it's gravitational influence within the solar system. Even if the immediate influence wasn't noticeable, I would be shocked if the long term consequences were not obvious. Plus it would also affect things like comets, large asteroids, and other such objects...the courses these things take in their orbits would be changed.

Then there's the whole problem that the energy released by a new star would affect everything. Who knows how much light, heat, radiation (what kind?) and other very critical things would be sent to Earth as a result of this ignition? What about the effect it would have on other planets?

Ugh...I wouldn't be surprised if the NWO or some other kooks would try something like this simply to accomplish their short term goals like population control. But I think that they're too short-sighted to anticipate the entire consequence of such a plan. And unless they've already found a way to travel to other planetary systems, they'll just be screwing themselves in the process. :)

2013
24-08-2007, 05:12 PM
When they where about to split the atom they didnt know theoretically if it was going to work or destroy everything by trying but they still went ahead and did it anyway.So messing with planets if they where able to wouldnt cause them a problem. I wonder what the effect on the hologram we call life would be by adding an extra light source ? Any ideas :D

cruise4
24-08-2007, 09:10 PM
Yes... they'd have you working all night too!

2013
24-08-2007, 09:12 PM
pmsl
true
still the night shift would have an easy time of it :D

bicycle
24-08-2007, 11:03 PM
I am trying to tell him, but the mods here keep telling me they are going to ban me.

Weird.

why?
:confused:

father ted
25-08-2007, 01:18 AM
I think it's best not to rely on "official science" on matters to do with space, planets, solar systems ect. What the hell does "official science" know about outer space?

Officially, they haven't done anything in space - oh, wait, they landed a pissy little hunk o' junk with a camera that moved about a foot the whole time it was there... oh, and they did well on a grand production, staring freemasons, on the moon landidng.

Oh yes kids, you should of paid attention at school when they were teaching you about these things, so you can pontificate about it to those who are too open minded, pffft... how dare they.