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karol2020
03-09-2009, 04:21 PM
Hi girls of the forum, let´s talk here all about menstruation? My menstruation cycle tend to be irregular (sometimes comes with 30 days, sometimes in the right day, and others more than 40 or 50 days) and I´ve been searching what causes this and ways to regulate it. Do you have some tips or experiences to share in this?

Are your cycles regular or irregular?

karol2020
04-09-2009, 07:07 PM
No one? :(

unusual_suspect
04-09-2009, 07:53 PM
Hi cool, thanks for starting this thread, I have womens trouble too lol.

I am 12 ays late now but I'm not even pregnant, I have had pms the whole time and I could really do with coming on soon cause I feel rather sorry for my family, I feel hot, bothered, sore and grumpy and I am very, very hungry :o

The only thing I can think of is that I started dieting in earnest about 8 weeks ago, I have lost weight but not loads and I am certainly not fading away or starving myself. I have also had a nasty kidney infection the last couple of weeks and have been working like 10 and 12 hours days this last week or so.

The period before that was a week late, before that is was pretty regular and for ages exactly every 28 days.

Can anyone else help with this?

Actually I just wish I didn't get them ever and didn't ever have pms!

lady_oblivion
04-09-2009, 10:08 PM
i have the implant so i can time mine to the clock, though the pmt and the extreme bleeding means i'm getting it taken out lol. Vit b6 and evening primrose oil helps regulate the hormones

coco
04-09-2009, 10:16 PM
evening primrose oil helps with warm flashes and calms the temper but only temporarily in my experience at least. Before they changed my medication and then upgraded it ate EPO like candy. The effects of two EPO's lasted about 1 1/2 hours for me.

sorry for the quickness of the post - I'm calling renewals, typing on another screen and this one as well and also running debits - multi tasking!!!

enga
04-09-2009, 10:46 PM
No one? :(

It's been pretty regular of late although somewhat watery. Last year though I had to wait 6 weeks sometimes and missed a couple of periods and had some slight pains. I have a coil (non-hormonal, NOT a mirena) and it can make you more prone to infection...I don't think it was that though but it may have been. I don't really get infections and it's cool I only have to go every 5-6 years and can literally forget about contraception imbetween. I have at least 1 day a month the week before my period where it feels like all the life has been sucked out and totally drained and exhausted. Then right after the period it's like an energy surge.

karol2020
05-09-2009, 06:30 PM
Hi cool, thanks for starting this thread, I have womens trouble too lol.

I am 12 ays late now but I'm not even pregnant, I have had pms the whole time and I could really do with coming on soon cause I feel rather sorry for my family, I feel hot, bothered, sore and grumpy and I am very, very hungry :o

The only thing I can think of is that I started dieting in earnest about 8 weeks ago, I have lost weight but not loads and I am certainly not fading away or starving myself. I have also had a nasty kidney infection the last couple of weeks and have been working like 10 and 12 hours days this last week or so.

The period before that was a week late, before that is was pretty regular and for ages exactly every 28 days.

Can anyone else help with this?

Actually I just wish I didn't get them ever and didn't ever have pms!

So your cycle was pretty regular all your life and only now with this desregulation? Mine (I have 25 years) was never regular, I have times when it was late almost 2 months. My first menstruation was with 11 years and i read the first years is normal to have it irregular, and with the time it regulates... but mine never regulated.....

karol2020
05-09-2009, 06:31 PM
i have the implant so i can time mine to the clock, though the pmt and the extreme bleeding means i'm getting it taken out lol. Vit b6 and evening primrose oil helps regulate the hormones

Hi there, what is primrose oil?

karol2020
05-09-2009, 06:40 PM
Another thing I noted people, is that before (like until 3 years ago) my menstruation lasted for 3 days, the two first with many blood and the third with less. And now I´m bleeding less, the first day has many blood, the second less almost finishing and in the third few.... I don´t know why...

How many days do your menstruation lasts?

I have heard of women who have a week bleeding.... :eek: and it´s their normal days of bleeding....

coco
06-09-2009, 12:54 AM
Another thing I noted people, is that before (like until 3 years ago) my menstruation lasted for 3 days, the two first with many blood and the third with less. And now I´m bleeding less, the first day has many blood, the second less almost finishing and in the third few.... I don´t know why...

How many days do your menstruation lasts?

I have heard of women who have a week bleeding.... :eek: and it´s their normal days of bleeding....

I always used to go for 7-8 days ever since I was 11 years old. When I described my experience with Evening Primrose Oil I will say that an 1 1/2 - 2 hours relief was welcome indeed. My circumstance is not usual so if the others say they had a very good experience lasting much longer than mine then I am very glad and if you should wish to learn about it here is a bit of info.

http://www.naturalherbsguide.com/evening-primrose.html

http://www.femalehealthissues.co.uk/benefits-evening-primrose-oil.html

http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetContent.aspx?token=e0498803-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=21587

Reading over that information I am reminded how much time I spent researching it before the internet. It was time consuming but then again, we didn't know any different back then. :)

karol2020
06-09-2009, 07:06 PM
I always used to go for 7-8 days ever since I was 11 years old. When I described my experience with Evening Primrose Oil I will say that an 1 1/2 - 2 hours relief was welcome indeed. My circumstance is not usual so if the others say they had a very good experience lasting much longer than mine then I am very glad and if you should wish to learn about it here is a bit of info.

http://www.naturalherbsguide.com/evening-primrose.html

http://www.femalehealthissues.co.uk/benefits-evening-primrose-oil.html

http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetContent.aspx?token=e0498803-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=21587

Reading over that information I am reminded how much time I spent researching it before the internet. It was time consuming but then again, we didn't know any different back then. :)

Hi coco, thankx a lot for your helps and links, I have took a look at them and now I know this primrose is a plant... good infos there. But where do can i find it, in natural medicines shops?

And your menstruation lasting for a week since 11? :eek: It shouldnt be easy....

coco
06-09-2009, 10:00 PM
Hi coco, thankx a lot for your helps and links, I have took a look at them and now I know this primrose is a plant... good infos there. But where do can i find it, in natural medicines shops?

And your menstruation lasting for a week since 11? :eek: It shouldnt be easy....

As a child, doctors said the period lasted that long because I was still developing and such was perfectly natural and I would outgrow it. They thought my complaints of pain was simply being childish and vying for attention. My mum was all over that information as she trusts doctors completely. Even after I hit my 20's I would sometimes walk a bit gingerly during the first couple of days of the period. It was a bit embarrassing as people could see my tummy was larger than usual and the less discreet would ask me if I was pregnant or wearing a padded brassiere. Then came the 90's and I met a doctor who opened my eyes to some updated facts.

He said it IS possible for young women/children to have REAL issues. Even though it was not his place to apologize, he did apologize for previous doctors' assumptions explaining they were only working with the knowledge available to them at the time.

As far as finding EPO. I purchased it in gel-pill form from the pharmacy or health food stores.

Here are some suggestions. I know you are not in the US but perhaps this will guide you as to how to locate it on the internet if you cannot find it locally.

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp58417_333181_sespider/gnc_womens/evening_primrose_oil_1300_softgel_capsules.htm

http://store.drugsforpregnant.com/item/evening_primrose_oil.html

http://static.canadadrugs.com/eveningprimroseoil500mgwvitamine15iucapsules/

Here's a bit more on gamma linolenic acid:

http://www.massagetoday.com/topics/herbcentral/gamma_linolenic.php

unusual_suspect
06-09-2009, 10:08 PM
I am 2 weeks late now, I'm not pregnant and I'mnot too sure what's going on, can't find much about it online, it would just be great to come on and stop having pms symptoms :(

btw Coco, I know what you mean about your boobs and tummy, my trousers are all too small for me at the moment and my boobs are like rocket launchers lol

coco
06-09-2009, 10:17 PM
I am 2 weeks late now, I'm not pregnant and I'mnot too sure what's going on, can't find much about it online, it would just be great to come on and stop having pms symptoms :(

btw Coco, I know what you mean about your boobs and tummy, my trousers are all too small for me at the moment and my boobs are like rocket launchers lol

Have you tried intercourse? Or working out - going for brisk walks or runs, climbing stairs or trees, bicycling?

I was never on time - either a couple of weeks apart or three - three and half weeks apart. I hated when I was late. I know what you are talking about completely. I remember one time I was when I was about 19 when I was late. I felt so run down. Then one morning I woke up coughing - I had a cold! The coughing action actually got me started.

Hmmm, I don't know your age or what issues you may have or not have. One of the mods (Limelady, I believe) turned me onto this natural progesterone concept below. I don't suggest you run out and buy some but for my instance I am on progesterone. You may want to look into this and discuss it with your doctor.

http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/naturalprogesterone.html

unusual_suspect
06-09-2009, 11:03 PM
Have you tried intercourse? Or working out - going for brisk walks or runs, climbing stairs or trees, bicycling?

I was never on time - either a couple of weeks apart or three - three and half weeks apart. I hated when I was late. I know what you are talking about completely. I remember one time I was when I was about 19 when I was late. I felt so run down. Then one morning I woke up coughing - I had a cold! The coughing action actually got me started.

Hmmm, I don't know your age or what issues you may have or not have. One of the mods (Limelady, I believe) turned me onto this natural progesterone concept below. I don't suggest you run out and buy some but for my instance I am on progesterone. You may want to look into this and discuss it with your doctor.

http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/naturalprogesterone.html

Thanks Coco, I'm about to check out that link and it's nice to talk to someone who understands, it's a real pain.

I'm 32 and throughout my life I have had the odd spell where my periods have been erratic, it just seems to come and go.

Thanks :)

hey_jude
08-09-2009, 10:27 AM
Hi all, definately some good advice on this thread and good links too - thanks.

Me personally, I'm in my menopausal phase and have eliminated all symptoms such as; hot flushes/flashes, bloating, cramps, cravings, mood swings - you name it!

I take a product called Femicell™ I also recommend this for a lot of my female clients.

Femicell™ as a daily dietary supplement contains vitamins and minerals together with herbal oestrogens which support women’s metabolism at a cellular level.

We women have specific needs and it is a combination of our nervous, hormone, immune and cardio-vascular systems which need support at the cellular level.

patrish
08-09-2009, 08:05 PM
I read that keeping the light on when there is a full moon helps regulate the cycle

pat x

unusual_suspect
08-09-2009, 08:22 PM
Pat, that is very interesting! I got my period yesterday so I am very happy, I thought my bits and bobs had stopped working!

karol2020
09-09-2009, 02:47 AM
I read that keeping the light on when there is a full moon helps regulate the cycle

pat x

? :confused: how keep the light on? can you explain better?

lauren_almighty
09-09-2009, 05:37 PM
Just realised that I haven't had a period in almost 2 months! :eek:
I obviously wasn't missing it! :rolleyes:

I was really irregular when I was diagnosed with anaemia at the beginning of the year because all I lived on was carbs :o

I suppose I've got to be more healthy and look after myself more. It's such a chore. I keep getting an acid build up in my stomach because I forget to eat and I keep losing weight dramatically because my body goes into starvation mode :eek:

unusual_suspect
09-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Just realised that I haven't had a period in almost 2 months! :eek:
I obviously wasn't missing it! :rolleyes:

I was really irregular when I was diagnosed with anaemia at the beginning of the year because all I lived on was carbs :o

I suppose I've got to be more healthy and look after myself more. It's such a chore. I keep getting an acid build up in my stomach because I forget to eat and I keep losing weight dramatically because my body goes into starvation mode :eek:

You poor thing, you got me all worried about you, you need to take care of yourself!

coco
09-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Pat, that is very interesting! I got my period yesterday so I am very happy, I thought my bits and bobs had stopped working!

Yesss! You'll feel better now.

coco
09-09-2009, 06:14 PM
Just realised that I haven't had a period in almost 2 months! :eek:
I obviously wasn't missing it! :rolleyes:

I was really irregular when I was diagnosed with anaemia at the beginning of the year because all I lived on was carbs :o

I suppose I've got to be more healthy and look after myself more. It's such a chore. I keep getting an acid build up in my stomach because I forget to eat and I keep losing weight dramatically because my body goes into starvation mode :eek:

Lauren! *dissappointed*

You must eat.

karol2020
09-09-2009, 06:57 PM
I was at a forum in orkut about menstruation and almost all women there have periods that lasts 5 to 7 or 8 days.... only very few had a period of only 3 days.... Is this normal? i thought was more usual 3 days....

karol2020
09-09-2009, 07:00 PM
Just realised that I haven't had a period in almost 2 months! :eek:
I obviously wasn't missing it! :rolleyes:

I was really irregular when I was diagnosed with anaemia at the beginning of the year because all I lived on was carbs :o

I suppose I've got to be more healthy and look after myself more. It's such a chore. I keep getting an acid build up in my stomach because I forget to eat and I keep losing weight dramatically because my body goes into starvation mode :eek:

yeah, you should take more care of your healthy and take note of your periods so you can know your cycle...

mistress_medusa
09-09-2009, 07:22 PM
I have the most horrendous cramps in my stomach right now so it was quite weird that I should accidently click on this thread as I never visit this part of the forum LOL

I started my period quite early compared to most of the girls I know and I never really had much trouble with it. A few tummy aches here and there but that was pretty much it. I gained a lot of weight when I was around 18 and my periods stopped until I started losing it again. That was up until a couple of years ago when I met my other half and needed to use contraception. That's when my real problems started!

I got an implant fitted and OH MY GOODNESS..it was the worst mistake I ever made in that department! I bled non-stop for months and months until I had to get it removed and was diagnosed with anaemia. My body hasn't been the same since, seriously.

I've got a coil fitted now and thankfully it's much better. I'm just getting back into 'normal' cycles now but I get a lot more pain which I'm told is due to the coil. I get really awful cramps, I'm much more moody and irritable, my boobies feel like two hot rocks on my chest and I'm hornier than a bitch in heat LOL

I don't like the idea of taking tablets like Feminax, etc. You know what I swear by? A hot bath and an orgasm or two! :D

coco
09-09-2009, 08:01 PM
You know what I swear by? A hot bath and an orgasm or two! :D

That helps with cramps. Really.

patrish
09-09-2009, 09:33 PM
If you keep the light on an night when there is a full moon it simulates a real full moon. It can help regulate your periods.

It helped me in the past, luckily I no longer have to worry about that stuff - I'm too old!

Pat xx

mistress_medusa
10-09-2009, 02:24 AM
I always used to be able to time my period by the full moon. The coil messed that up though :(

We are all LUNAR GODDESSES :D

armoured_amazon
10-09-2009, 02:54 AM
Hi girls of the forum, let´s talk here all about menstruation? My menstruation cycle tend to be irregular (sometimes comes with 30 days, sometimes in the right day, and others more than 40 or 50 days) and I´ve been searching what causes this and ways to regulate it. Do you have some tips or experiences to share in this?

Are your cycles regular or irregular?

Mine varies between 34 and 44 days. Always had a weird cycle. I'm going to the hospital, soon as I remember, to get some bloodwork done (PCOS etc). No tips, I'm afraid. :o

sensitivesoul
10-09-2009, 04:25 AM
Well I don't have any tips but I can relate to irregular periods for sure. It's a pain in the bumm... Mines cause of stress, usually it's delayed by a week or so or sometimes I just don't have it that month depending on how stressed I've been. Plus I get those times where it surprises me too. Anyone else get the 'surprise'? find that I can tell by cramping or headaches before hand but I've been known to have a brain fart now and again ha ha:p.

mistress_medusa
10-09-2009, 11:45 AM
I can always tell when mine is coming so I'm rarely suprised these days.

I get extremely moody, horny and emotional all at once. I feel sorry for my other half..I fuck him, beat him up then cry about it!! :eek:

Only joking ladies..I don't really cry :D

sorath
10-09-2009, 04:54 PM
Or beat me up!

mistress_medusa
10-09-2009, 08:16 PM
Jokes, baby! It's just jokes :D

runlikehell
10-09-2009, 09:02 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

lauren_almighty
12-09-2009, 08:42 PM
There's no need to worry anymore. I've started to eat healthily again and my period came yesterday. Hurray! :o

1971
12-09-2009, 08:51 PM
nice topic for us ladies.
I was recently talking to a mate about this, not sure if its my age (37)

Last time it came BAM on a full moon - it was awful...

oh just looked back, weird as patrish mentioned full moon - even stranger, your id is me in the real world :eek:

Also I haven't use tampons for years, I really cant see they are good for you, interesting to hear everyone thoughts on this..

2nd also, isnt menstrual blood quite sort after for the sacrifice...

unusual_suspect
12-09-2009, 09:00 PM
There's no need to worry anymore. I've started to eat healthily again and my period came yesterday. Hurray! :o

Good, my dietary habits used to be rather erratic and my periods stopped at that time. What you have to realise is that the hormaonal changes that you experiance when your body goes in to starvation mode are exactly what causes brittle bone disease and thinning of the bones. For women anyway, you don't want to be breaking your bones averytime you fall over and knock yourself by the time you are 50 or 60 do you!

Anyway, lecture over now :)

lauren_almighty
12-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Good, my dietary habits used to be rather erratic and my periods stopped at that time. What you have to realise is that the hormaonal changes that you experiance when your body goes in to starvation mode are exactly what causes brittle bone disease and thinning of the bones. For women anyway, you don't want to be breaking your bones averytime you fall over and knock yourself by the time you are 50 or 60 do you!

Anyway, lecture over now :)

I do not want that to happen to me! Thanks for the warning. I'll definitely be looking after myself a lot more. I am really white like ghostly pale and have been looking terrible with the under eye circles lately. I haven't been looking well at all. It was time I sorted myself out. I feel such an idiot for letting myself get this way. But at least I've learnt my lesson. I was really worried when my periods stopped.

unusual_suspect
12-09-2009, 09:27 PM
I do not want that to happen to me! Thanks for the warning. I'll definitely be looking after myself a lot more. I am really white like ghostly pale and have been looking terrible with the under eye circles lately. I haven't been looking well at all. It was time I sorted myself out. I feel such an idiot for letting myself get this way. But at least I've learnt my lesson. I was really worried when my periods stopped.

that's really good news, what you said hit a bit of a raw nerve. I never looked after myself when I was younger and I have spent most of this year being seriously ill at the age of 32. When you are younger you think that you will just bounce back and that you can get away with treating your body badly. This isn't always the case, not eating properly can cause all sorts of health problems for you further down the road. Your body deserves respect :)

Btw, sorry for shite typing! :o

coco
12-09-2009, 10:00 PM
nice topic for us ladies.
I was recently talking to a mate about this, not sure if its my age (37)

Last time it came BAM on a full moon - it was awful...

oh just looked back, weird as patrish mentioned full moon - even stranger, your id is me in the real world :eek:

Also I haven't use tampons for years, I really cant see they are good for you, interesting to hear everyone thoughts on this..

2nd also, isnt menstrual blood quite sort after for the sacrifice...

My grandmother was very against their use though she never explained why except that she felt it was unhealthy. :confused: I've never looked into the subject myself.

lauren_almighty
12-09-2009, 10:34 PM
that's really good news, what you said hit a bit of a raw nerve. I never looked after myself when I was younger and I have spent most of this year being seriously ill at the age of 32. When you are younger you think that you will just bounce back and that you can get away with treating your body badly. This isn't always the case, not eating properly can cause all sorts of health problems for you further down the road. Your body deserves respect :)

Btw, sorry for shite typing! :o

You are right. It took me a while to understand that. My body had been giving me signs that I had been ignoring but once my periods stopped I knew that I had to stop abusing my body before I got alot worse.

coco
12-09-2009, 10:37 PM
You are right. It took me a while to understand that. My body had been giving me signs that I had been ignoring but once my periods stopped I knew that I had to stop abusing my body before I got alot worse.

I'm glad you recognized the signs and are doing better. :)

lauren_almighty
12-09-2009, 10:38 PM
My grandmother was very against their use though she never explained why except that she felt it was unhealthy. :confused: I've never looked into the subject myself.

You can get toxic shock syndrome from tampons. I know girls that leave them in too long and I knew one girl who wanted to use 2 at once! (I know this through girly conversations :o)

My mum's friend knew somebody who had to have an operation to remove an old tampon after 25 years because she had forgotten about it! :eek:

entrangermercenary
13-09-2009, 12:10 AM
You can get toxic shock syndrome from tampons. I know girls that leave them in too long and I knew one girl who wanted to use 2 at once! (I know this through girly conversations :o)

My mum's friend knew somebody who had to have an operation to remove an old tampon after 25 years because she had forgotten about it! :eek:

PMSL while spewing :eek:The things my wife never tells me :o Thank the Lord for that ;)

armoured_amazon
13-09-2009, 05:57 AM
PMSL while spewing :eek:The things my wife never tells me :o Thank the Lord for that ;)

Hehehe

xxadam810xx
14-09-2009, 07:40 PM
I know this is a girls forum but I'll just throw in what I have heard,
in wikipedia you can find information about a woman's cycle in the armpit section, it states that a woman's cycle can regulate from the smell of a male's armpit due to the hormonal effect, I dont know how accurate this is but check it out.
Also, the use of contraceptives such as the famous pill can affect a woman's cycle, while many people might think the pill is safe and the changes are a normal side effects, there are many other side effects from the pill that are overlooked and affect a woman's body in a very serious way from changes in the cycle to getting brown/dark vaginal discharge which is said to be very serious by several doctors.

karol2020
14-09-2009, 08:07 PM
I know this is a girls forum but I'll just throw in what I have heard,
in wikipedia you can find information about a woman's cycle in the armpit section, it states that a woman's cycle can regulate from the smell of a male's armpit due to the hormonal effect, I dont know how accurate this is but check it out.
Also, the use of contraceptives such as the famous pill can affect a woman's cycle, while many people might think the pill is safe and the changes are a normal side effects, there are many other side effects from the pill that are overlooked and affect a woman's body in a very serious way from changes in the cycle to getting brown/dark vaginal discharge which is said to be very serious by several doctors.

Hi there, thankx for your help to this thread, althought is a girls forum you men can give your contributions, is very welcome :) I´ve heard this that the smell of the armpit can regulate the cycle, altought i don´t know if it´s true... maybe, but what should I do- I have no boyfriend- take a sample of a man and smell it all days? hauhua Regarding the pill, I know it affects the woman body and help regulate the cycle, but i have never used it... i know women who use pills only to have the side effects of it, such as a better skin without acne or to regulate...

coco
14-09-2009, 08:09 PM
The brown or dark vaginal discharge may be old blood. It generally occurs during flow either the start or near the end. If it happens as break through (occurs outside normal period flow time) then the lady should consult her physician.

Should a lady have a disorder, that among other things, causes the ovaries to hemorrhage within themselves and cause the ovaries to retain said blood, thus causing the ovaries to enlarge a great deal thus causing a world of hurt, the lady will kiss the doctor on the mouth a week after he gives her the pill so she will be able discharge all the varying colors of old blood and obtain relief and become pain free.

The pill isn't for everyone. It can have its side effects.

karol2020
14-09-2009, 08:12 PM
these things i could ask my father cause he is gynecologist, but i couldn´t, embarassing...:o and I have never gone to one....

coco
14-09-2009, 08:18 PM
these things i could ask my father cause he is gynecologist, but i couldn´t, embarassing...:o and I have never gone to one....


Especially if it's your dad. I understand. :)

wildhorse
14-09-2009, 09:26 PM
oh laydees thank fuck for this thread...!!!

june the 4th I last came on... I used to have a regular 5week cycle, but had that awful implant, got the appetite of a horse and put on 2 stone. 9months later, I am still not regular!!

Last full moon, I was convinced that I was going to come on, thanks to the moon...but no... still no show!

I bought a load of preg tests and it was negative

I dunno whats going on.

I read about a herbal pill that regulates women, I found it on some womans site that dealt with getting pregnant basically. I am sure the pill was called summit like Arcus Cactus ??

will go look it up now as it had good reviews....brb ;)

wildhorse
14-09-2009, 09:29 PM
backs...

the herbal supplement is called Agnus Castus :D

coco
14-09-2009, 09:39 PM
backs...

the herbal supplement is called Agnus Castus :D

Thank you for the suggestion. Doing some initial reading on this. Does it create, mimic progesterone? Still looking but this is one of the articles I've found thus far:

http://www.stevenfoster.com/education/monograph/vitex.html

by Steven Foster © 2009

For over 2500 years chaste tree (Vitex agnus-castus) has been used for gynecological conditions since the days of Hippocrates. With a rich traditional of use, modern research supports historical wisdom, and has made chaste tree fruit preparations a phytomedicine of choice by European gynecologists for treatment of various menstrual disorders, PMS, and other conditions.

Chaste tree was associated with ancient Greek festivals. In the Thesmophoria, a festival held in honor of Demeter, the Greek goddess of agriculture, fertility and marriage, women (who remained "chaste" during the festival), used chaste tree blossoms for adornment, while bows of twigs and leaves, were strewn around Demeter's temple during the festival. In Rome, vestal virgins carried twigs of chaste tree as a symbol of chastity. According to Greek mythology, Hera, sister and wife of Zeus, regarded as protectress of marriage, was born under a chaste tree. Ancient traditions associating the shrub with chastity were adopted in Christian ritual. Novitiates entering a monastery walked on a path strewn with the blossoms of the tree, a ritual that continues to the present day in some regions of Italy.

The shrub's ancient association with chastity led to later use of the fruits as an "anaphrodisiac," quieting the desires of the flesh, especially of celibate clergy. "These seeds have been celebrated as antiaphrodisiacs, and were formerly much used by monks for allaying the venereal appetite; but experience does not warrant their having any such virtues," wrote Andrew Duncan in the 1789 edition of the Edinburgh Dispensatory. Robert John Thorton in his 1814 Family Herbal put it more eloquently, "As there are provocatives to procreations, as shell-fish, eggs, and roots of orchises made into salep for the male, and spare dict and use of steel for the female, so it is possible the chaste tree may have a contrary effect; and hence the seeds have been called Piper monachorum (Monk's pepper), who flew to them when they found the spirit to be willing, but the flesh weak."

Many of the common names of the shrub refer to this use of the plant, including, Abraham's Balm, Chaste Lamb-Tree, Safe Tree, and Monk's Pepper-Tree. It has also been called Indian-Spice, and Wild-Pepper, referring to the use of the fruits as a pepper substitute. The small round fruits (seeds) have a pungent scent and flavor reminiscent of black pepper.

Vitex agnus-castus L., commonly known as chaste tree, is native to West Asia and southwestern Europe. The shrub was introduced throughout Europe at an early date. It was known in English gardens as early a 1570, and now occurs throughout the European continent. Introduced to American gardens by European immigrants in the early nineteenth century, the shrub has become naturalized in much of the Southeastern United States, occurring in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, southeast Oklahoma, north to Maryland. Chaste tree is a shrub growing from nine to seventeen feet tall, though specimens can reach twenty-five feet high in the deep South.

Chaste tree has been used for the treatment of menstrual difficulties for at least 2,500 years. The Greek physician Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.) wrote, "If blood flows from the womb, let the woman drink dark wine in which the leaves of the chaste tree have been steeped."Use for gynecological conditions is also noted in the works of Pliny and Dioscorides (1st century A. D.), as well as Theophrastus (3rd century A.D.). "The trees furnish medicines that promote urine and menstruation," wrote Pliny, "They encourage abundant rich milk. . ."

These recommendations survive to the time of sixteenth century English herbalist John Gerarde, "The decoction of the herbe and seed is good against pain and inflammations about the matrix, if women be caused to sit and bathe their privy parts therein; the seed being drunke with Pennyroiall bringeth downe the menses, as it doth also both in a fume and in a pessary. . ." (Gerarde 1633).

The Twentieth Century
In 1938, a German researcher, Gerhard Madaus, was the first to initiate use of chaste tree in the twentieth century. Recognizing the long value of the plant in gynecological disorders, he designed a series of animal experiment to determine which part of the plant had the greatest biological activity. Madaus found that extracts of the leaves, fruits, and bark retarded estrus (heat) in female rats, without evidence of adverse effects on reproductive performance. The fruits had the greatest activity.

During the Second World War, medical practitioners in Germany recognized a stress-induced lactation repression in women, prompting a search for effective milk stimulating substances. Clinical confirmation of the effectiveness of chaste tree fruit preparations in stimulating milk production in German women under stress from Allied bombing were published in three separate papers in 1941, 1942, ands 1943. Later in the 1950s, animal studies further confirmed an experimental lactation-stimulating action. In 1954, a clinical study on 1000 maternity patients, compared vitamin B1 and a chaste tree fruit preparation in stimulating milk production to a placebo. Chaste tree preparations came out on top. Increased lactation has been attributed to an increase in prolactin secretion, increased progesterone synthesis, reducing estrogen secretions (which tend to inhibit milk production). Results of these early studies led investigators to postulate that either the plant contained a component that replaced hormones produced by the body, or plant extracts, acting through the pituitary, might regulate hormone production. It was found that chaste tree fruit preparations act on the pituitary gland to regulate the production of, and induce normalization of the ovarian hormones. The timing of the release of pituitary hormones, regulates menstruation, fertility, and other processes. Hence, an agent that will produce a balance of hormones can help to regulate these processes. The biological activity of chaste tree cannot be attributed to a single chemical component. The fruits contain flavonoids including the major flavonoid casticin, as well as orientin and isovitexin. Many chaste tree products are standardized to flavonoid content.

Modern Use in PMS
Given the positive results of experimental studies in the 1940s and 50s coupled with clinical experience, has lead to the use of chaste tree extracts in European phytotherapy in several major areas including: management of menstrual disorders, PMS, treatment of infertility produced by mild corpus luteum insufficiency, and hot flashes at the initial stages of menopause, among other conditions. An imbalance of estrogen and progesterone has also been associated with premenstrual syndrome (PMS). Symptoms appear seven to ten days before the beginning of menstruation, and cease once the cycle begins. Physical symptoms include painful breasts, abdominal discomfort and fullness, flatulence, edema (especially of the lower extremities, as well as the hands and the face), and headache. Mental symptoms may include mood swings, nervous irritability, depression, restlessness, and aggressiveness. It is estimated that between 5 and 30% of women may be affected by PMS. Therapeutic choices by health care professionals are based on severity of symptoms. In severe cases, the treatment is likely to be steroidal hormones. In Europe, however, gynecologists have another choice, preparations made from the fruits of the chaste tree.

A 1986 German clinical trial over a three month period with 36 PMS patients reported positive results in physical and psychological symptoms. A dose of 40 drops a day, taken over a three month period, produced a reduction in headaches, breast tenderness and pressure, bloating, and fatigue. Improvement in anxiety, mood swings, and other psychological symptoms were also reported.

In a 1990 German clinical drug monitoring study of the efficacy and safety of long-term treatment with a chaste tree fruit tincture, 1571 women with menstrual disorders including corpus-luteum insufficiency and PMS were followed for a period of 7 days to six years (average 147.6 days). The dose was 40 drops once a day taken on an empty stomach in the morning with water. In 90 percent of patients, the treatment eliminated or alleviated symptoms of PMS. Results for 465 patients were rated very good, 714 good, 220 satisfactory, 110 unsatisfactory, and in 62 cases no data was available. Adverse reactions were reported for 30 patients (1.9 percent), including 12 cases of nausea, , gastric symptoms and diarrhea, and a single allergic reaction.

A clinical survey of German gynecologists published in 1992 evaluated the effect of a chaste-tree preparation (Agnolyt®) on 1542 women diagnosed with PMS. Treatment of 40 drops (tincture) daily lasted an average of 166 days. Both physicians and patient assessed efficacy, with 90 percent reporting relief of symptoms, after an average treatment duration of 25.3 days. Two percent reported side effects, mostly gastrointestinal in nature.

The vast majority of chemical, pharmacological and clinical studies have involved a proprietary extract, Agnolyt®, (capsules and liquid) manufactured by Madaus AG, Cologne, Germany. Until the 1990s most studies involved the liquid preparation, a tincture of the fruits (1:5 tincture, with a 58% alcohol content). This liquid product has recently been reformulated into a solid extract available in capsules.

In order to test the effectiveness and tolerability of the new formulation, a research group in Germany conducted a controlled, double-blind study on the use of the product compared with vitamin B-6. The study was conducted in sixteen centers involving 175 female patients, 85 of whom received the chaste tree preparation, while 90 received pyridoxine. Efficacy was assessed by both the patient and physician at the end of the trial. Treatment was continued for three menstrual cycles. Those who received the chaste tree fruit dried extract (3.5-4.2 mg) took one capsule and one placebo capsule per day. Those in the pyridoxine group, received one capsule of placebo twice daily on days 1 to 15 and one capsule of pyroxidine-HCL (100 mg) twice daily from the 16th through the 35th days of the cycle.

Using a standard clinical global impression scale to record results, the researchers found that those who received the chaste tree extract had a marked reduction of PMS symptoms such as breast tenderness, edema, tension, headache, constipation and depression. It was found useful in 80 percent of the women, and results were rated by practitioners as excellent in over 24 percent of cases. Twelve patients in the chaste tree berry extract treatment group reported gastrointestinal complaints, transitory headaches, or mild skin reactions. These adverse effects were transient in nature. The researchers concluded that the dried berry extract of chaste tree was safe and effective in the treatment of PMS.

Modern Applications
In Germany, the use of phytomedicines in the treatment of menstrual disturbances is often preferred over conventional treatment, if no contraceptives are indicated. Steroidal hormones are often considered unnecessary, and individual treatment initiated once differentiation has been made between cyclic and acyclic bleeding difficulties. A benefit of chaste tree treatment is the relative lack of side effects compared with treatment with steroidal hormones. Another benefit is that the price of chaste tree preparation therapy is far below that of conventional treatment methods. The German Commission E monograph on chaste tree fruits allows use of preparations for menstrual disorders due to rhythmic disorders of menstruation, mastodynia (pressure and swelling in the breasts), and premenstrual syndrome. Preparations include alcoholic extracts of the pulverized fruits (tincture) formulated to an average daily dose equivalent to 30-40 mg of the fruits. No contraindications are listed. While no interactions with other drugs are reported, animal experiments indicate the possibility of interference with dopamine-receptor antagonists. Side effects noted include too early menstruation following delivery (resulting from activation of the pituitary), as well as rare instances of itching and rashes. Chaste tree preparations are contraindicated during pregnancy.

In a recent review on the relationship between phytotherapy and orthodox medicine, a leading German researcher, H. Schilcher, noted that an important reason for the acceptance of phytotherapy by many German physicians is the existence of the scientifically supported Commission E monographs (recently published in English, cited below). Dr. Schilcher also notes that acceptance of phytotherapy rests with the fact that in Germany, their use is consider a component of orthodox medicine and not an alternative approach. In Germany chaste tree fruit preparations are considered a safe, effective, and low-priced tool available to, accepted by, and widely used by gynecologists.

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karol2020
15-09-2009, 12:15 AM
Interesting this of the menstruation comes with the full moon... I´ve never heard of it before, now I will pay attention to this to se if my menstruation comes in this moon. But i´ve looked at my lasts bledding days to cheek this and were not at full moon, one was in the new moon and the other at first quarter...

biblegirl
15-09-2009, 12:36 AM
Just thought i'd chime in here to add my stats :p.

Right now i'm on precisely every full moon, and last for 7 days :rolleyes:.

I have not always been regular though, after i did some juice fasts i seemed to repair and got regular for the first time ever, to where i could predict it to the hour.

A few days before, i get the worst migraine, sometimes it lasts two days, and it's awful...i don't know how to fix that!

But the fasting seemed to kill the cramps at least. Now i don't really feel them anymore, as opposed to before i detoxed, when i felt like i was in labor every month :eek:!


oh just looked back, weird as patrish mentioned full moon - even stranger, your id is me in the real world :eek:

Also I haven't use tampons for years, I really cant see they are good for you, interesting to hear everyone thoughts on this..


My grandmother was very against their use though she never explained why except that she felt it was unhealthy. :confused: I've never looked into the subject myself.

Yeah from my understanding, tampons contain asbestos and other chemicals that are rather toxic and dangerous to us...when i have to use them (which i hate) i opt for the organic cotton ones.

Also the birth control pill gets two thumbs down from me :mad:! It gave me a blood clot and practically killed me! i couldn't walk for a few days and it was horrible...aside from that the headaches and mood swings just weren't worth it, I had to stop taking it and got my nicer personality back as a result :p.

And lol at the armpit thing, i've never heard that before :D!

karol2020
15-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Just thought i'd chime in here to add my stats :p.

Right now i'm on precisely every full moon, and last for 7 days :rolleyes:.

I have not always been regular though, after i did some juice fasts i seemed to repair and got regular for the first time ever, to where i could predict it to the hour.



Hi biblegirl, thankx to share your experiences and give contributions to the forum:) What had in the juice fasts you done, can you say? And good that you are sincronized with the full moon, so you can know where you are in your cycle by the moon fase... you don´t even need to note the days. good for you...

Would be great to read more people with the cycle syncronized wih the moon ....if you have it, post here please... :)

coco
15-09-2009, 05:04 PM
Just thought i'd chime in here to add my stats :p.

Right now i'm on precisely every full moon, and last for 7 days :rolleyes:.

I have not always been regular though, after i did some juice fasts i seemed to repair and got regular for the first time ever, to where i could predict it to the hour.

A few days before, i get the worst migraine, sometimes it lasts two days, and it's awful...i don't know how to fix that!

But the fasting seemed to kill the cramps at least. Now i don't really feel them anymore, as opposed to before i detoxed, when i felt like i was in labor every month :eek:!





Yeah from my understanding, tampons contain asbestos and other chemicals that are rather toxic and dangerous to us...when i have to use them (which i hate) i opt for the organic cotton ones.

Also the birth control pill gets two thumbs down from me :mad:! It gave me a blood clot and practically killed me! i couldn't walk for a few days and it was horrible...aside from that the headaches and mood swings just weren't worth it, I had to stop taking it and got my nicer personality back as a result :p.

And lol at the armpit thing, i've never heard that before :D!

Asbestos! I wasn't aware of that! My grandmother just felt using such a thing was 'unhealthy'. I'm confident she didn't know about the ingredients - I didn't. Sometimes the old women know best even if they are not aware of the details.

The pill is famous for blood clots. I'm not happy you had one and it threatened you but I'm glad you're off of it and that's the best for you. Criminey I'm glad they caught that clot!
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Karol, I've heard that ladies used to synchronize with the moon but perhaps in modern society not many ladies do anymore.

http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/1286

meno-, men-, meni-, -mena
(Greek: month; moon; denotes the menses)

wildhorse
16-09-2009, 07:23 PM
well I am now taking Agnus Castus so will keep you posted...I don't know how it works, I just hope it does :D

as for fasting...yes indeed it does rid you of cramps, as you are detoxed etc, thou in my case, I had only a very small bleed for 3 days. It is interesting!

I am looking at a 'mooncup' which holds the blood during your cycle, so saves on throwing tammys away. Thing is, its bloody dear for what it is

I dont use any contraceptive either, they always end up messing with me on some level, and never for the good of my health...I learnt about my cycles, when they were regular mind, and was able to birth control down to the day. It can be done just by listening to your body, and none of this taking temp crap...tho being regular to some degree is half the battle :rolleyes:

jojo
16-09-2009, 07:47 PM
ooh, good thread.

im usually on during a full moon give or take the odd day. if im ever late i find swimming lengths for about 30 mins usually gets it moving.

my boobs swell to the size of hard melons and feel so painful and bruised, my fella dare not go anywhere near them during this time as he would get a swift knee to the crown jewels if he did :D

when i lived with 3 other women (about 12 years ago) we all syncronised with one another so we were all on at the same time.

oh and i find excersise like walking and horse riding really really helps me with bad cramps.... and a hot water bottle ;)

karol2020
16-09-2009, 09:57 PM
ooh, good thread.

im usually on during a full moon give or take the odd day. if im ever late i find swimming lengths for about 30 mins usually gets it moving.

my boobs swell to the size of hard melons and feel so painful and bruised, my fella dare not go anywhere near them during this time as he would get a swift knee to the crown jewels if he did :D

when i lived with 3 other women (about 12 years ago) we all syncronised with one another so we were all on at the same time.

oh and i find excersise like walking and horse riding really really helps me with bad cramps.... and a hot water bottle ;)

H Jojo!! I was just now in the art thread and saw your drawing there, they are amazing, i loved them! :)

jojo
16-09-2009, 10:11 PM
H Jojo!! I was just now in the art thread and saw your drawing there, they are amazing, i loved them! :)

thanks karol! i replied :)

wildhorse
19-09-2009, 07:35 PM
quick update...started taking angus castus on wednesday, its now saturday, and this morning after three and a half months, the painters finally showed up!

lauren_almighty
22-09-2009, 01:00 PM
backs...

the herbal supplement is called Agnus Castus :D

I've just been to the doctors because I've been on my period for longer than I should have after previously going 2 months of not having one at all. He said that it is hormonal and completely normal for somebody my age to experience irregularities. He prescribed me something that mimics progesterone, I think, but I'm not sure about taking it. I would prefer to try something herbal than whatever crap is in those pills. Normally I wouldn't bother and would just let my body sort itself out but this bloody period is doing my head in! (pun unintended)

I've been in a really crappy mood lately too and have been really snappy and that's not like me at all. I'm alienating everybody at home because they can't stand to be around me.

karol2020
22-09-2009, 10:17 PM
quick update...started taking angus castus on wednesday, its now saturday, and this morning after three and a half months, the painters finally showed up!

oh thats good for you, so this herb gives result...

karol2020
22-09-2009, 10:24 PM
I've just been to the doctors because I've been on my period for longer than I should have after previously going 2 months of not having one at all. He said that it is hormonal and completely normal for somebody my age to experience irregularities. He prescribed me something that mimics progesterone, I think, but I'm not sure about taking it. I would prefer to try something herbal than whatever crap is in those pills. Normally I wouldn't bother and would just let my body sort itself out but this bloody period is doing my head in! (pun unintended)

I've been in a really crappy mood lately too and have been really snappy and that's not like me at all. I'm alienating everybody at home because they can't stand to be around me.

he said is normal for your age? what´s your age? I think you should try something maybe this agnus herb, or othera alternatives if not gives result, you could go for the pill he prescribed...

I don´t like to take medicines too, i prefer to let it go way naturally like a headache or even stomach pains of pms, but sometimes is necessary....

lauren_almighty
22-09-2009, 10:38 PM
he said is normal for your age? what´s your age? I think you should try something maybe this agnus herb, or othera alternatives if not gives result, you could go for the pill he prescribed...

I don´t like to take medicines too, i prefer to let it go way naturally like a headache or even stomach pains of pms, but sometimes is necessary....

I'm 21. I'll try something herbal first before I go for this pill thing. I'm very wary of prescribed medicines anyway because I've experienced horrible side effects in the past.

geewhizz
24-09-2009, 07:04 PM
This thread is Sexist.

I can't believe you get away with this women only thread.

lauren_almighty
24-09-2009, 07:11 PM
This thread is Sexist.

I can't believe you get away with this women only thread.

I agree.
Men should tell us girls all about their menstruation irregularities. do you suffer from pmt?

geewhizz
24-09-2009, 07:13 PM
I agree.
Men should tell us girls all about their menstruation irregularities. do you suffer from pmt?

Yes ITS YOUR FAULT, You just dont UNDERSTAND! lol

lauren_almighty
24-09-2009, 07:44 PM
Yes ITS YOUR FAULT, You just dont UNDERSTAND! lol

Typical!

karol2020
25-09-2009, 09:40 PM
I agree.
Men should tell us girls all about their menstruation irregularities. do you suffer from pmt?

yeah, he says is sexiest so lets let men tell us about his menstruation problems... But serious I thought only women would have interest and experiences to share in this, but if you men want to participate, ok you are welcome here, I supose you men read a lot too this thread considering the number of views...

But let´s try not to deviate from the subject of the thread ok? This thread was done to help and share experiences about menstruation irregularities and cycle.

notthisshitagain
25-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Very interesting thread! My body's weird.. sometimes I'm regular, sometimes I'm irregular =/ most of my life I've been irregular, though.. it's weird cause usually I don't get acne at all, I only get it right before I menstruate... but sometimes I get the acne.. and I don't menstruate at all! So frustrating!

karol2020
29-09-2009, 03:17 AM
Very interesting thread! My body's weird.. sometimes I'm regular, sometimes I'm irregular =/ most of my life I've been irregular, though.. it's weird cause usually I don't get acne at all, I only get it right before I menstruate... but sometimes I get the acne.. and I don't menstruate at all! So frustrating!


me too, I have noted this some years ago, that usually when I´m to menstruate some acne show in my face... :(

coco
29-09-2009, 05:37 PM
I hate those big nasty looking things I get on my chin. It depends which ovary is more active as to which side of my chin the pimple develops.

notthisshitagain
04-10-2009, 04:51 AM
Lol.. I have this pimple on the right side of my chin.. ugh... :rolleyes: and fuck, I was supposed to menstruate on the twenty-something of September.. and my period just started today! (October 3rd)....

unusual_suspect
04-10-2009, 12:04 PM
I get the old irregular cycle, this month I am not even going to bother trying to guess when mine will fall, there really is no point. I am getting some lovely spots at the moment too :)

notthisshitagain
18-10-2009, 04:38 AM
Cloth menstrual pads are a reusable alternative to disposable sanitary napkins.

They receive praise for being environmentally friendly as well as cost-cutting. They may come with or without wings.

Generally they are made from layers of absorbent fabrics (such as cotton or hemp) which are worn by a woman while she is menstruating, for post-birth bleeding or any other situation where it is necessary to absorb the flow of blood from the vagina. After use, they are washed, dried and then reused.

There's a company called Lunapads, I think they're Canadian.

Pad Gallery (http://www.lunapads.com/department.aspx?DeptId=2&PriceCat=2&Lang=EN-US&SID=abe535b0-5063-4683-9606-46aa8717d690)

karol2020
19-10-2009, 06:26 PM
I hate those big nasty looking things I get on my chin. It depends which ovary is more active as to which side of my chin the pimple develops.

this is true? the side of your overy more active makes the pimples in that side appear more?

coco
19-10-2009, 06:28 PM
this is true? the side of your overy more active makes the pimples in that side appear more?

A nurse told me that one time. To be honest I don't know if that's true as I've never looked into it for myself.

karol2020
19-10-2009, 06:47 PM
A nurse told me that one time. To be honest I don't know if that's true as I've never looked into it for myself.

hmm really? so my left ovary is much more active than the rigth because the left side of my face has more tendence to acne..... hauhauahu

coco
19-10-2009, 06:50 PM
OK, I've been scouting around. This is the closest thing I've found so far in reference to the chin pimple/ovulation subject. I never knew so many women had an issue with chin pimples during ovulation, really. I never knew any women who had a problem with it and never thought to speak to my gynecologist about it as I thought it was a dermatologic issue and that isn't his field of expertise. Live and learn.

http://www.soulcysters.net/acne-cleared-up-everywhere-but-chin-87777/

In reference to a question about monthly acne especially on the chin:

Hi there,
I too have acne on my chin...I think I could maybe have 2 days a month when I am acne free.
I have bad blackheads, your average zits plus the big red raging angry ones too. Not to mention the scarring that goes with it.

My beauty therapist does 'face mapping' - she told me that the chin area is your reproductive system and the sides of your chin are your ovaries. I think dermalogica have info on this if you are interested.

Just interesting info for you...not that it will help much!

Good luck

Neat forum they have over there. :)

coco
19-10-2009, 06:54 PM
hmm really? so my left ovary is much more active than the rigth because the left side of my face has more tendence to acne..... hauhauahu

That's what started the brief conversation with the nurse. Truth is I was horribly embarrassed about the big, ugly monster on my chin and was really just making small talk. That's when she said made mention about the ovaries and the sides of the chin.

The above comment by the lady on another forum stated her 'beauty specialist' mentioned the chin represents the ovaries' activity on the face. Interesting.

karol2020
19-10-2009, 07:31 PM
OK, I've been scouting around. This is the closest thing I've found so far in reference to the chin pimple/ovulation subject. I never knew so many women had an issue with chin pimples during ovulation, really. I never knew any women who had a problem with it and never thought to speak to my gynecologist about it as I thought it was a dermatologic issue and that isn't his field of expertise. Live and learn.

http://www.soulcysters.net/acne-cleared-up-everywhere-but-chin-87777/

In reference to a question about monthly acne especially on the chin:

Hi there,
I too have acne on my chin...I think I could maybe have 2 days a month when I am acne free.
I have bad blackheads, your average zits plus the big red raging angry ones too. Not to mention the scarring that goes with it.

My beauty therapist does 'face mapping' - she told me that the chin area is your reproductive system and the sides of your chin are your ovaries. I think dermalogica have info on this if you are interested.

Just interesting info for you...not that it will help much!

Good luck

Neat forum they have over there. :)

Hi coco, thankx for your informations and link, I was searching and found this: http://www.vivawoman.net/2008/07/21/how-i-deal-with-my-hormonal-chin-acne/ that says acne in the chin and jawline is a hormonal adult acne... interesting i didnt know this, but my ane is not in the chin area, is the cheeks, and I´m 25 years old. I rarely have in the chin, I read that as we grow the acne tends to concetrante in the lower face...

karol2020
19-10-2009, 07:34 PM
in the moment I am with one in the cheeck that came in the Pre menstrual period and is still a bit here...

coco
19-10-2009, 07:37 PM
Hi coco, thankx for your informations and link, I was searching and found this: http://www.vivawoman.net/2008/07/21/how-i-deal-with-my-hormonal-chin-acne/ that says acne in the chin and jawline is a hormonal adult acne... interesting i didnt know this, but my ane is not in the chin area, is the cheeks, and I´m 25 years old. I rarely have in the chin, I read that as we grow the acne tends to concetrante in the lower face...

Hmmm, interesting. I've always had oily skin and once a month - oi! The chin gets it the worst but I can break out elsewhere on the face too. I'll look at the link, thank you. :)

We'll get to the bottom of this yet. :)

coco
19-10-2009, 07:43 PM
There's a company called Lunapads, I think they're Canadian.

Pad Gallery (http://www.lunapads.com/department.aspx?DeptId=2&PriceCat=2&Lang=EN-US&SID=abe535b0-5063-4683-9606-46aa8717d690)

My grandmother, born in the late 1920's, said women used to have to use old rags and cloths for once a month.

The more things change the more they stay the same. ;)

Appreciate the link. :)

karol2020
21-10-2009, 06:41 PM
There´s a way of change the title of the topic? I want to call it woman´s topic, and not girl´s... there´s a way?

kweli
21-10-2009, 06:45 PM
There´s a way of change the title of the topic? I want to call it woman´s topic, and not girl´s... there´s a way?

Does it really matter?

karol2020
21-10-2009, 06:48 PM
Does it really matter?

not so much, but i think is a more aproppriate title... :)

coco
21-10-2009, 06:48 PM
There´s a way of change the title of the topic? I want to call it woman´s topic, and not girl´s... there´s a way?

Try PM'ing one of the mods. :)

antinwo
21-10-2009, 10:04 PM
I am having problems with my menstural cycle at the moment I used to have a period which would be every three weeks but it just seems to be getting more often than that. So I will start say 1st of the month finish around 8th and then start again around the 21st I always seem to be on at the moment:(

notthisshitagain
28-10-2009, 04:33 AM
I am having problems with my menstural cycle at the moment I used to have a period which would be every three weeks but it just seems to be getting more often than that. So I will start say 1st of the month finish around 8th and then start again around the 21st I always seem to be on at the moment:(

Damn, that's pretty crazy.. do you get a lot of pains too? :(

karol2020
28-10-2009, 06:08 PM
Try PM'ing one of the mods. :)


Pm one of the mods? i think i will let as it is.... :D