fasting tips...

[dark86]

first time - only 2 or 3 days. any tips pretty please?

obviously not going to go running or anything too harsh but aim to drink lots of juice n water.

[chris]

I've done 4X 10day pure water fasts. I'm also going to do a 40+ day supervised water fast later this year.

The very first 3 days of your first fast is literal hell but just keep going and it's actually not that bad. It's also much easier to break into a fast from then on.

What kind of Juice are you thinking of?

I wouldn't expect much as far as results from a three day juice fast but it's certainly much better for you than regular eating...

Detoxing gets worse before it gets better, you need to break through on through to the other side. If you do then you will manage to get real benefits from health otherwise you are just slowing down the degeneration of negative health...

[soglad]

Why would you want to fast?

Just out of curiosity.

[chris]

Why would you want to fast?

Just out of curiosity.

Nano technology...

The body after three days will enter ketosis and these 'keytones' will selectively feed off the crap you've put into your body...After a few weeks it will finish with the degenerated cells, mucus and pollution and will start to feed of reserves which lasts a long time. This is when your body will enter repair mode, since your not spending 30% of your energy on digestion then you will have a lot of energy availible to repair the damage done by all the shit you've just gotten rid of.

Think about it...Do animals get medicines? All animals fast, all apart from humans (which is only recent)...

[lifeofbrian]

first time - only 2 or 3 days. any tips pretty please?

obviously not going to go running or anything too harsh but aim to drink lots of juice n water.

If it's your first time, go with a prep diet of raw veg and fruit for a couple of weeks beforehand. During the fast, stay with a combo of juices and water.

Fasting is great. Gives clarity of mind, speeds up the thought process and opens people up to ESP (Extra Sensory Perception) the natural way.

Good luck with the detox!

[soglad]

That actually makes sense to me! I will read up more on this Chris, thanks!

[chris]

That actually makes sense to me! I will read up more on this Chris, thanks!

You will find negative sites which will say lies about fasting.

You will get pro fasting sites which will say lies about fasting.

You need to be careful...A perfect diet is the key then you can't go wrong.

If you have any questions then just ask...

The truth is that fasting is the most healthy thing a relatively healthy person can do. But these pro-fasting sites try to counter the negative fasting sites by saying fasting is totally safe and can be done in all situations...This is not true.

You also find the negative sites that are so full of bullshit its unbelievable but what's funny is that they miss all the real dangers.

So its difficult to get real good information on it...2tuff (the unhived mind) is the best resource for information on it.

The benefits of a well conducted fast are very widespread...Especially for your mind and reproductive powers (which usually go hand in hand)...A lot of stress hormones are constantly being created from the mucus and pollution and this is a way to get rid of post traumatic stress disorder (which most of us have to some degree)...I read a testimonial of a guy who had PTSD and he said as he got to the end of his fast he just saw his combat flash before his eye's and then his whole life flashed before his eye's all the way back to his birth and a few days later he broke his fast and his ptsd had totally gone and his digestion became perfect and all his symptoms had cleared up (eye movements and such)...

[danielg]

The first 3 days suck having toxins dislodged into the bloodstream. Do plenty of stretching to aid circulation. Like they say, running water is never stale.
Try using Spirulina powder (not tablets) too:

Fasting and cleansing

Fasting one day a week is a common practice in traditional societies and in many religions. The purpose of going without solid food for three days to a week or longer is to allow the body to cleanse and renew itself. People who benefit from prolonged fasting report a feeling of detoxification which makes them feel physically stronger and psychologically clearer.7

One of the first discoveries was spirulina's value as an aid for fasting. It eases intestinal problems because it is easy to digest and provides energy and stamina for work and play during a fast. Because it is a light, low calorie food providing essential nutrients, and because it digests easily, spirulina makes fasting easier and more effective.

A well known booklet on this subject is Rejuvenating the Body through Fasting with Spirulina Plankton by Dr. Christopher Hills. He writes: "as a source of nutrition during fasting or dieting, it is excellent because it helps cleanse the intestinal tract as well as relax the smooth muscle of the bowels."8

"Fasting with spirulina and mixing it with fruit and vegetable juices is the perfect and most natural way to flush out the system with liquids and chlorophyll without denying the body the nutrients for full and effective metabolism."9 Dr. Hills suggests a seven day fast with fruit, fruit juices, water and spirulina, without any other solid food.

Fasting requires discipline and should be done for limited periods. Fasting should be accompanied with common sense, and when it is over, light simple meals should be phased in slowly over several days before moving back to a normal diet.

The first few days of fasting may result in discomfort due to detoxification. If side effects become severe, fasting should be stopped. Fasting is not for everyone, and people with special dietary or medical problems should consult their health practitioner first.10

[kashmirz]

what about those of us that naturally don't eat alot ... alow me to elaborate.

For those of you who have seen some of my posts i make no secret that i have had a darker past, whats more i thank the light for putting me through it every day because it brought me to here... i had believed in all honesty that i was a psychic vampire and had practiced as such up until i heard these .. voices last week i mean i have researched the illuminati & nwo for a long time now but that .. changed my life... check some of my posts for more info on that.. anyway..moving on.

Im a person who probably eats a decent meal once every 3? 4 days? the rest of the time i live on coffee, water and milk pretty much ...

This has been because my life involved with psychic vamprism tought me about energy manipulation, and through that for the past ... 8 years? i have lead a day to day life very aware that energy all around us can be naturally soaked up on a day to day basis.

For example it has been raining the past few hours ... im not going to be hungry for at least two days just because of .. that naturally soaking into me because of me teaching myself in my vamprism days to absorb energy.

My question is, does this mean i have been fasting on a small scale on a regular basis since i was 13 ... because i very rarley eat, nor do i need to ...

the only time i make sure i eat is when i can feel my stomach is completley empty and is starting to churn on itself...

if anyone has some thoughts on my situation and if this means i would take to fasting easier please comment :) because i find this interesting with my personal background.

Thank you very much for reading :)
<3

[chris]

kashmirz I'd probably eat well before trying fasting...You've probably held health up quite well by not eating much but when you do it, it sounds like it is pretty shitty food...

If you read into 'calorie restriction diet' you will see that all scientists in the health field actually practice what the preach but it's not like we get access to this information (unless we look very hard)...

You probably get some energy from your practice but I have no idea how much...Sun gazing and sex fasts are also a great way of building energy.

If you've got an eating problem then that's something different and I don't have any experience on the subject...I just recommend researching well and eating perfectly when you do eat and then I'm sure you wouldn't need to fast.

After my 40 day fast I'm going to ease into 2 days fasting per week but I have researched diet a great deal and it's not like you can do this without really good food when you do eat.

[phoebe]

first time - only 2 or 3 days. any tips pretty please?

obviously not going to go running or anything too harsh but aim to drink lots of juice n water.

hi dark

I have only ever lasted for 4 days on any fast.
So I'm probably not the best person to give advice but...
I found the best thing to do was to try to keep out of people's way.
Make it into "you" time.
Shut yourself in and read all those books you have been meaning to read.

I did the mastercleanse lemonade fast, details of which can be found at http://www.curezone.com/

Some info on cleansing:

http://curezone.com/cleanse/

[neon]

Best of luck to anyone going on a fast, its very hard work and takes alot of will power. Recently for the past 2 month or so, im only able to fast for a few days and break it then go back into it again. Lost about 9kgs....

Im starting to learn to eat raw foods more often.....onions and ginger tea etc etc. Man i use to be a very healthy eater then got into all the junk stuff which is hard to break man. But im working on it, trying to train myself to fast once a week.

Anyways hope you guys succeed.

[cf24]

I managed a 21 day juice fast a few months ago, and I was well chuffed, but I did suffer symptoms most of the way through. My skin was terrible, depression and mood swings were pretty bad too. I only gave up after that long because I couldn't cope with the symptoms any longer. I have to admit after the first 4 or 5 days, it gets easier the more you go on(the hunger part).

I would love to do one again, but i am wondering if its because my liver is congested why my detox symptoms were so bad. It kind of puts me off, knowing im going to be so ill.

The weight loss is also very dramatic if you are overweight too.

[chris]

I managed a 21 day juice fast a few months ago, and I was well chuffed, but I did suffer symptoms most of the way through. My skin was terrible, depression and mood swings were pretty bad too. I only gave up after that long because I couldn't cope with the symptoms any longer. I have to admit after the first 4 or 5 days, it gets easier the more you go on(the hunger part).

I would love to do one again, but i am wondering if its because my liver is congested why my detox symptoms were so bad. It kind of puts me off, knowing im going to be so ill.

The weight loss is also very dramatic if you are overweight too.

What juice were you drinking? If you have very light fruit like pears then you shouldn't have much of a problem but stuff like pineapples and lemons will rip you up.

Best piece of advice I can give anyone going on a fast Don't tell anyone. They just don't get it and think your going through a kind of crisis or having an eating disorder. I didn't know how bitchy my friends have become until I did my first fast, rather than going up and asking me, they just talked behind my back like they found some kind of chink in my armour. I did nothing to deserve this, I always thought my friends were the best friends ever but I guess time and conditioning had gotten to them and they've been turned into gossiping twats. Maybe it's only a survival mechanism...

[kashmirz]

kashmirz I'd probably eat well before trying fasting...You've probably held health up quite well by not eating much but when you do it, it sounds like it is pretty shitty food...

If you read into 'calorie restriction diet' you will see that all scientists in the health field actually practice what the preach but it's not like we get access to this information (unless we look very hard)...

You probably get some energy from your practice but I have no idea how much...Sun gazing and sex fasts are also a great way of building energy.

If you've got an eating problem then that's something different and I don't have any experience on the subject...I just recommend researching well and eating perfectly when you do eat and then I'm sure you wouldn't need to fast.

After my 40 day fast I'm going to ease into 2 days fasting per week but I have researched diet a great deal and it's not like you can do this without really good food when you do eat.


oh i would eat before hand and when i do eat i try and make sure its always fresh ingredients in the food i eat, however i just thought it was worth mentioning that due to my past ive been aware of how to take energy from nature, be it thunder storms, trees , stars etc etc for a very very long time, and thus i have .. sort of always lived in a state of , 3 days no food, eat, 3 days no food, eat, its just that after you have practiced this you realize how .. pathetic food is for energy consumption compared to whats around you, to me i always found it so .. bloating i suppose, but ive lived the past 6 years with eating probably 2 or 3 meals a week? i can tell you im in a full bill of health and i havent been sick since i was 10 ... so .. yeah just thought it was worth sharing my experiences :) thanks for the reply :D

[chris]

oh i would eat before hand and when i do eat i try and make sure its always fresh ingredients in the food i eat, however i just thought it was worth mentioning that due to my past ive been aware of how to take energy from nature, be it thunder storms, trees , stars etc etc for a very very long time, and thus i have .. sort of always lived in a state of , 3 days no food, eat, 3 days no food, eat, its just that after you have practiced this you realize how .. pathetic food is for energy consumption compared to whats around you, to me i always found it so .. bloating i suppose, but ive lived the past 6 years with eating probably 2 or 3 meals a week? i can tell you im in a full bill of health and i havent been sick since i was 10 ... so .. yeah just thought it was worth sharing my experiences :) thanks for the reply :D

Yeah I agree, you don't need much food at all to stay alive...I mean though that you are probably not getting all you can from the food you are eating. I am just nitpicking really but milk really sucks so does coffee and they have antinutrients which stop you from getting the gosu shit.

[phoebe]

Best piece of advice I can give anyone going on a fast Don't tell anyone. They just don't get it and think your going through a kind of crisis or having an eating disorder. I didn't know how bitchy my friends have become until I did my first fast, rather than going up and asking me, they just talked behind my back like they found some kind of chink in my armour

hahaha!
Ain't that the truth!
It's either that or they start waving
Chicken salad sandwiches in front of your face
And saying "mmmmmm".

Bastards!

[cf24]

What juice were you drinking? If you have very light fruit like pears then you shouldn't have much of a problem but stuff like pineapples and lemons will rip you up.

Best piece of advice I can give anyone going on a fast Don't tell anyone. They just don't get it and think your going through a kind of crisis or having an eating disorder. I didn't know how bitchy my friends have become until I did my first fast, rather than going up and asking me, they just talked behind my back like they found some kind of chink in my armour. I did nothing to deserve this, I always thought my friends were the best friends ever but I guess time and conditioning had gotten to them and they've been turned into gossiping twats. Maybe it's only a survival mechanism...

Hi Chris, what do you mean when you say that Pineapples and lemons will rip you up? What else would you recommend?

Thanks...

[kashmirz]

Yeah I agree, you don't need much food at all to stay alive...I mean though that you are probably not getting all you can from the food you are eating. I am just nitpicking really but milk really sucks so does coffee and they have antinutrients which stop you from getting the gosu shit.

gosu shit? i drink coffee in unhealthy quantities already ... is there something i should be aware of?

just dont get on me about tobaco and herbs of .. er .. love lets say because yeah "if i dont smoke theirs gona be secondary bullets" -rip mr hicks :P

[chris]

Hi Chris, what do you mean when you say that Pineapples and lemons will rip you up? What else would you recommend?

Thanks...

In my experience they are too strong...They are great food when you are extremely healthy but not good for a person in acidosis...They can be too strong for your gut and that will irratate the skin

Lighter fruit like apples and pears are perfect.

[chris]

gosu shit? i drink coffee in unhealthy quantities already ... is there something i should be aware of?

just dont get on me about tobaco and herbs of .. er .. love lets say because yeah "if i dont smoke theirs gona be secondary bullets" -rip mr hicks :P

Well I know quite a few people in your situation who don't eat much but what they do eat is really bad...

If I were you I'd start eating properly over quitting smoking because a lot of tribes who eat nothing but fruit and salad stuff are in great health (though do suffer from smoking related illnesses) on average living to 100+

But it's not about how long you live, it's about how healthy you are right now...The way people are eating today, people my age (24) probably won't get an average life expectancy over 50 and the poisons in the food are only going to get worse. Food is our biggest cause of death in the world, not lack of it...

I'm sure your not too bad since you don't eat a shed load but coffee is a slave drink and is nothing more than a drug. You haven't even said what you eat when you do eat...You should check out 2tuff's site for health info...

This is a good talk about diet...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5215695644951404318&q=heart+attack+proof&total=84&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[cf24]

In my experience they are too strong...They are great food when you are extremely healthy but not good for a person in acidosis...They can be too strong for your gut and that will irratate the skin

Lighter fruit like apples and pears are perfect.

Cheers Chris, that makes sense. I was doing all sorts of citrus as well as veg. I will try all veg, and the fruit you suggested. Are most veg ok?

thanks....

[kashmirz]

Thanks chris :) well im gona kick the coffee to the curb, however here is my thoughts on tobacco

You know what you were saying before about the body being clogged with food slowing the repair process etc etc, i personally thing it would work the same with tobacco related illness, i mean if your body was in a healthy state, and you had your energy's working on healing rather than digesting over time one can only assume thats going to have a positive affect, combine that with moderation and you got yourself a winning combo.

When i do eat i usually eat pastas, vegetables, poultry meats, most of my diet consist of breads and pasta however when i do eat.

thanks so much for the words of wisdom :)

[turquoisefyre]

i've been detoxing/fasting the last few days with wheatgrass and other juices. lost 6 kilo's in 6 days (lol, weightloss was NOT my goal, btw...) this is a fantastic book written by Ann Wigmore, "The Wheatgrass Book" The Wheatgrass Book (Avery Health Guides): Amazon.co.uk: Ann Wigmore: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51vc%2Bgb62dL.@@AMEPARAM@@51vc%2Bgb62dL

http://amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b/202-2676344-7909452?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the+wheatgrass+book

also be sure to get your omega oils (especially omega 3) in. http://www.bodykind.com/search.asp?SearchString=ultimate+udo&Referer=Google_udos%20oil&PartnerID=6&gclid=CKfAxrmzgo4CFQQdEgodcBXTOQ

i'm sure there are plenty of interesting ways of detoxing. have fun.

http://www.goodhealth.co.th/images/wheatgrass.jpg
http://www.thebigbananajuicebar.co.uk/images/Wheatgrassjuiceshot.jpg

[chris]

Cheers Chris, that makes sense. I was doing all sorts of citrus as well as veg. I will try all veg, and the fruit you suggested. Are most veg ok?

thanks....

Yes, perfect...I love carrot and celery, delicious.

No potatoes and other veg you need to cook the poison out of.

Herbal teas are good, with honey! (manuka contains over 100 different types of sugar!!!)

[chris]

Thanks chris :) well im gona kick the coffee to the curb, however here is my thoughts on tobacco

You know what you were saying before about the body being clogged with food slowing the repair process etc etc, i personally thing it would work the same with tobacco related illness, i mean if your body was in a healthy state, and you had your energy's working on healing rather than digesting over time one can only assume thats going to have a positive affect, combine that with moderation and you got yourself a winning combo.

When i do eat i usually eat pastas, vegetables, poultry meats, most of my diet consist of breads and pasta however when i do eat.

thanks so much for the words of wisdom :)

Eating well will certainly slow the bad effects of smoking and reverse the effects of bad eating.

You really need to learn about diet first...try 2tuff's site and ask him.

[chris]

Wheatgrass is probably the most nutritional, versitile food in the world...

I've stocked up on it in case the shit hits the fan, got about a years supply...I also have a manual juicer in case the energy goes as well. You can also juice the normal grass as well...Easy

[kashmirz]

Chris, im just about 25 min into this, gona pause to listen to the sunday alex jones edition which is starting now, but ive made the choice :) im gona change everything in my diet... gona start as of today, im not a obese man by any means im skinny as a rake, im healthy just a slim build but i am going to make this change for the benefit of my body :) so that it has the ability to heal itself :)


Chris , my eternal love to you brother, you just saved my life, truly... thank you , thank you so much.

<3

[cf24]

I tried wheatgrass a couple of times and it gave me a dizzy spell. Think I must be allergic to it or something. Pretty shortly after drinking it I went all funny, a bit light headed and cold sweats. Havent tried it since. I hate being allergic to things...

[cf24]

Yes, perfect...I love carrot and celery, delicious.

No potatoes and other veg you need to cook the poison out of.

Herbal teas are good, with honey! (manuka contains over 100 different types of sugar!!!)

Cheers Chris, im gonna start another fast tomorrow. If I can do away with the symptoms I had last time then I will have no problem doing another 3 weeks. Will let you know how I get on with your recommendations....

Nice one.

[chris]

Chris, im just about 25 min into this, gona pause to listen to the sunday alex jones edition which is starting now, but ive made the choice :) im gona change everything in my diet... gona start as of today, im not a obese man by any means im skinny as a rake, im healthy just a slim build but i am going to make this change for the benefit of my body :) so that it has the ability to heal itself :)


Chris , my eternal love to you brother, you just saved my life, truly... thank you , thank you so much.

<3

The key is persistance.

The big myth of society is that because you are slim you are healthy. Some store mucus as fat, some in their liver (me) and some keep it in their bowels or eye's or teeth, it doesn't matter...It's like a room might look nice but you look under the bed and it's full of shit. Your probably lucky if your overweight because then you know that your storing mucus...

My old friend's lifestyle reminds me of you (he's 24)...The skinniest guy I know, he got sick a few years ago and had his thyroid out. Then just a few months ago they took out a cancerous tumour from his bladder. There's no getting through to him, people rather live in denial and chase fad diets than to really understand the truth which they knew all along but are psychologically weak.

[chris]

Cheers Chris, im gonna start another fast tomorrow. If I can do away with the symptoms I had last time then I will have no problem doing another 3 weeks. Will let you know how I get on with your recommendations....

Nice one.

What are your problems? If you have psoriasis then your likely to experience darker patches as your skin is detoxing...You'll have to do a very very long juice fast to fully detox but fully detoxing is the goal, it's only then will you experience real health because your body priorities detoxing over feeling good...That's why you feel good when you just eaten a load of shit, because you've managed to stop the detox...Imagine if you stop the detox by being completely clean.

[cf24]

What are your problems? If you have psoriasis then your likely to experience darker patches as your skin is detoxing...You'll have to do a very very long juice fast to fully detox but fully detoxing is the goal, it's only then will you experience real health because your body priorities detoxing over feeling good...That's why you feel good when you just eaten a load of shit, because you've managed to stop the detox...Imagine if you stop the detox by being completely clean.

Asthma, eczema/psoriasis. All gets worse while on the fast last time. If I went on a water fast, would the symptoms be worse do you think?

[chris]

Asthma, eczema/psoriasis. All gets worse while on the fast last time. If I went on a water fast, would the symptoms be worse do you think?

Well it all depends on the individual...

A water fast is less likely to get scaly skin, in fact that should stay normal...What's most likely is that you will get dark (liver) patches or if you already have them they will get darker...This is a good sign.

To be honest it's best to eat a good diet and go to a person that does pure medical supervised fasts...There is a guy in the UK and I'll give you feedback on him after I have seen him. His practice is discontinued but he still does one at a time...

The worst thing you can do is water fast and then break it badly, I'm sure this will happen if you try it...Even breaking it well is quite bad if your still detoxing.

The best thing with a water fast is to fast all the way until you are pretty much detoxed. That way you will be able to break the fast well and you will notice the improvement...If you break the fast halfway between detoxing, it seems to take about two weeks until you notice the improvement.

The thing about detoxing is that you don't really see a great improvement until you've detoxed but when you've done then your on your way up.

[cf24]

Well it all depends on the individual...

A water fast is less likely to get scaly skin, in fact that should stay normal...What's most likely is that you will get dark (liver) patches or if you already have them they will get darker...This is a good sign.

To be honest it's best to eat a good diet and go to a person that does pure medical supervised fasts...There is a guy in the UK and I'll give you feedback on him after I have seen him. His practice is discontinued but he still does one at a time...

The worst thing you can do is water fast and then break it badly, I'm sure this will happen if you try it...Even breaking it well is quite bad if your still detoxing.

The best thing with a water fast is to fast all the way until you are pretty much detoxed. That way you will be able to break the fast well and you will notice the improvement...If you break the fast halfway between detoxing, it seems to take about two weeks until you notice the improvement.

The thing about detoxing is that you don't really see a great improvement until you've detoxed but when you've done then your on your way up.

From what I've read about water fasting, it is supposed to be very tough. Is that mentally tough or physical symptoms or both? Have you done a water fast on your own before?

[chris]

http://www.americanvegan.org/resources/images/t_fasting_eating_health.jpg

Get this book if your interested...This guy goes through stuff like psoriasis and yes they've been cured completely from it.

[chris]

From what I've read about water fasting, it is supposed to be very tough. Is that mentally tough or physical symptoms or both? Have you done a water fast on your own before?

It is very tough...I've done 4x10 day pure water fasts. My psoriasis has gotten a lot better but not gone completely...That's why I intend to do a prolonged one under supervision.

I was even working while doing those fasts...The detox effect got too strong and I just couldn't continue.

Supervision is the way to go...That way the person will make sure you break it safely and also you won't want be tempted to eat when under supervision.

It is very difficult...the first 3 days of my first fast was utter hell, I was literally food obsessed.

My detox effects were mostly dizziness, I could handle the other things but I could not be dizzy on my job.

[cf24]

It is very tough...I've done 4x10 day pure water fasts. My psoriasis has gotten a lot better but not gone completely...That's why I intend to do a prolonged one under supervision.

I was even working while doing those fasts...The detox effect got too strong and I just couldn't continue.

Supervision is the way to go...That way the person will make sure you break it safely and also you won't want be tempted to eat when under supervision.

It is very difficult...the first 3 days of my first fast was utter hell, I was literally food obsessed.

My detox effects were mostly dizziness, I could handle the other things but I could not be dizzy on my job.

I've only done juice, and the first few days are tough, then the hunger goes, then I start to suffer the symptoms I described earlier. I would like to do the water fast but i'm concerned about the detox reaction. I know I detox a lot via the skin, and it gets really bad. Mentally is also very tough. Im defo going to try a new fast tomorrow on veg and your suggestions. This time I hope it wont be so tough. Let me know if you wouldn't mind via pm if you wish regarding your supervised fast. I would be interested to know how you get on with it. When you planning on going ahead?

Good luck with it mate! and thanks for the advice, its really appreciated....

[dark86]

cheers for all the info...wow.

just into day 2 and very confident........and dizzy .....and a constant crappy taste in my mouth.

[hutanic]

I done around 14 days with out food. My source of energy was sun. 1 hour per day of looking directly at sun. Took me some time to slowly get my eye's used to it with out damaging them. Goal i try to accomplish is to completely not be dependent on food. Did a lot 3-4 days with out food pauses with are quite easy for me now, and gonna give it a new try to see how will it go this time. I heard of this on one tv show here in Croatia where they showed 2 man who both haven't ate in decades and drink like 1 glass of water per day. But cant give u any more info on it since i haven't seen any of it on internet so far. Coud be a worth method to research.

P.S. if u ever consider this go very easy on sun thing can fry your eyes.

[neon]

The key is persistance.

The big myth of society is that because you are slim you are healthy. Some store mucus as fat, some in their liver (me) and some keep it in their bowels or eye's or teeth, it doesn't matter...It's like a room might look nice but you look under the bed and it's full of shit. Your probably lucky if your overweight because then you know that your storing mucus...



Dude whats mucus? is that why my bottom left eye looks kinda swollen? or is it lack of sleep? ive had this for the last 2 years.......have no idea whats wrong with it. I always think its my sleep deprivation thats making it swell. This is not like eye bags, its just a slight lower from the eye bags...

[chris]

I done around 14 days with out food. My source of energy was sun. 1 hour per day of looking directly at sun. Took me some time to slowly get my eye's used to it with out damaging them. Goal i try to accomplish is to completely not be dependent on food. Did a lot 3-4 days with out food pauses with are quite easy for me now, and gonna give it a new try to see how will it go this time. I heard of this on one tv show here in Croatia where they showed 2 man who both haven't ate in decades and drink like 1 glass of water per day. But cant give u any more info on it since i haven't seen any of it on internet so far. Coud be a worth method to research.

P.S. if u ever consider this go very easy on sun thing can fry your eyes.

http://www.solarhealing.com/about.htm

This is the guy your probably talking about...

I do sun/star/planet gazing, although I limit the sun to sunrise and sunset...Very good for the energies and you get different energies from the different planetary bodies.

[chris]

Dude whats mucus? is that why my bottom left eye looks kinda swollen? or is it lack of sleep? ive had this for the last 2 years.......have no idea whats wrong with it. I always think its my sleep deprivation thats making it swell. This is not like eye bags, its just a slight lower from the eye bags...

Well there are many different things that happens when you are toxic...Some people say your 'acidic' some people say it's lack of blood circulation and some say it's mucus, there are many different types of describing poor health and you don't get one without the other but I think mucus is one of the very first cause with a clue how to get rid of it...

If you have a problem then its down to toxicity. Eating is a major factor of sleep, this is how I got into eating mostly vegan because it gave me the best sleep ever.

If you totally detox then your eye will loose it's inflamation no prob.

[neon]

Well there are many different things that happens when you are toxic...Some people say your 'acidic' some people say it's lack of blood circulation and some say it's mucus, there are many different types of describing poor health and you don't get one without the other but I think mucus is one of the very first cause with a clue how to get rid of it...

If you have a problem then its down to toxicity. Eating is a major factor of sleep, this is how I got into eating mostly vegan because it gave me the best sleep ever.

If you totally detox then your eye will loose it's inflamation no prob.

Thanks man, i must be very toxic then and i dont feel very good. You are right.....check out the list of my problems...

Lack of sleep
Bloating
blood circulation
Very pale grey, my brother says i look like a ghost
Viens abnormal, they can be seen through out my whole body. Looks scary
Hands and feet look like grannys, very dry and wrinkly. I have noticed if i do alot of work with my arms and hands, the viens pop out and the more dry the hands get.
inflamation on the eyes and lips, my lips have turned darker. Not normal:confused:

I use to be a junk eater, and was obsessed with salt. I use to just eat it alone and eat large amounts of salt.:eek:

I was just wondering if you knew anything about the viens? why is it now showing all over my body? also what detox do you suggest i go on? thanks Chris.

[lydia78]

Thanks man, i must be very toxic then and i dont feel very good. You are right.....check out the list of my problems...

Lack of sleep
Bloating
blood circulation
Very pale grey, my brother says i look like a ghost
Viens abnormal, they can be seen through out my whole body. Looks scary
Hands and feet look like grannys, very dry and wrinkly. I have noticed if i do alot of work with my arms and hands, the viens pop out and the more dry the hands get.
inflamation on the eyes and lips, my lips have turned darker. Not normal:confused:

I use to be a junk eater, and was obsessed with salt. I use to just eat it alone and eat large amounts of salt.:eek:

I was just wondering if you knew anything about the viens? why is it now showing all over my body? also what detox do you suggest i go on? thanks Chris.



Hi neon,

Protruding veins could be a sign of high blood pressure or the thickening of the blood.....unless your very slim, then the cause is due to lack of fat.

You ate salt like that?? Whoa....wouldn't want to imagine how THAT tasted lol!!

Anyway, wishing you a healthier lifestyle:D

[cf24]

Well, here goes another fast starting today!

Wish me luck, see how long I can go this time.

[lydia78]

Well, here goes another fast starting today!

Wish me luck, see how long I can go this time.

GOODLUCK!!!!Wish you longevity in your task.....:)

[cf24]

Thank you Lydia, I managed 21 days last time, so If I can manage that again I will be chuffed!:D

[spiraltrance]

The body after three days will enter ketosis and these 'keytones' will selectively feed off the crap you've put into your body...After a few weeks it will finish with the degenerated cells, mucus and pollution and will start to feed of reserves which lasts a long time. This is when your body will enter repair mode, since your not spending 30% of your energy on digestion then you will have a lot of energy availible to repair the damage done by all the shit you've just gotten rid of.

When approximately does the body start to cannanbaloize protien and muscle? Is it before or after it's ate all the toxins?

[chris]

Thanks man, i must be very toxic then and i dont feel very good. You are right.....check out the list of my problems...

Lack of sleep
Bloating
blood circulation
Very pale grey, my brother says i look like a ghost
Viens abnormal, they can be seen through out my whole body. Looks scary
Hands and feet look like grannys, very dry and wrinkly. I have noticed if i do alot of work with my arms and hands, the viens pop out and the more dry the hands get.
inflamation on the eyes and lips, my lips have turned darker. Not normal:confused:

I use to be a junk eater, and was obsessed with salt. I use to just eat it alone and eat large amounts of salt.:eek:

I was just wondering if you knew anything about the viens? why is it now showing all over my body? also what detox do you suggest i go on? thanks Chris.

Different people show different symtoms but the causes are mostly the same...

I wouldn't suggest a faddy detox, I would suggest you research and start eating the way people did when they lived in nature.

[chris]

When approximately does the body start to cannanbaloize protien and muscle? Is it before or after it's ate all the toxins?

AFTER in fact your body will burn reserves after it's burned the toxins and then it will start on muscle, these reserves will last about 4 weeks in most people (that's on a pure water fast).

Your body is very selective about what it burns and what it doesn't...You might loose water but and slim down quite a bit but this has nothing to do with muscle mass. Its infact a sign that you are being hydrated since your body no longer needs to store water reserves outside its cells.

You will know when you are nearly detoxed because while detoxing you will see a white film go across your tongue and when it dissapears you know your close to starting your reserves.

[hutanic]

http://www.solarhealing.com/about.htm

This is the guy your probably talking about...

I do sun/star/planet gazing, although I limit the sun to sunrise and sunset...Very good for the energies and you get different energies from the different planetary bodies.

Yup, one of guys i saw doing it. Thnx for link.

[spiraltrance]

If it's your first time, go with a prep diet of raw veg and fruit for a couple of weeks beforehand. During the fast, stay with a combo of juices and water.

How do you manage to stomach raw vegetables? I read patirck holfords nutrition bible which reccomends raw vegetables and thought I'd try a week long diet of raw vegetables but they tasted vile and only managed a few mouthfulls. I tried raw garlic but nearly made me physcialy sick and left me with horrible burning taste in my mouth and chest for a few hours. Surely cold raw food can't be as energising as a warm meal?

[spiraltrance]

AFTER in fact your body will burn reserves after it's burned the toxins and then it will start on muscle, these reserves will last about 4 weeks in most people (that's on a pure water fast).

Your body is very selective about what it burns and what it doesn't...You might loose water but and slim down quite a bit but this has nothing to do with muscle mass. Its infact a sign that you are being hydrated since your body no longer needs to store water reserves outside its cells.

You will know when you are nearly detoxed because while detoxing you will see a white film go across your tongue and when it dissapears you know your close to starting your reserves.

Ok Thanks :-)

[chris]

How do you manage to stomach raw vegetables? I read patirck holfords nutrition bible which reccomends raw vegetables and thought I'd try a week long diet of raw vegetables but they tasted vile and only managed a few mouthfulls. I tried raw garlic but nearly made me physcialy sick and left me with horrible burning taste in my mouth and chest for a few hours. Surely cold raw food can't be as energising as a warm meal?

Since you burn calories, how can already heated food be more energising? Not only that but the devistation caused by heating food to it's nutrient values not to mention the phytomins. The reason we started to heat food was to kill the poisons in potatoes and other starchy veg and it grew from there. The only reason why people back then wanted potatoes was because back then they found it useful to get a lot of calories to stock up when food became rare. Research how we used to live when we were twice as strong, all over 6 foot...Research paleodiets or the diets of our closest relatives and how they compare to us physically.

I wouldn't eat raw garlic on it's own, I didn't like raw food at first but now it tastes good (even though everyone thinks I'm crazy but I genuinly like it now). Might be nice if you cut up one clove into tiny pieces and mix it with your salad...

Carrots, lettuce, celery, cucumbers are my favourite veg....But still I eat mostly fruit and walk to my favourite apple tree everyday to pick a couple of delicious shiney apples (you don't get that taste in the stores anymore, so much more zing)...

[spiraltrance]

The reason we started to heat food was to kill the poisons in potatoes and other starchy veg and it grew from there.

But without the amount of pesticides sprayed on vegetables nowadays couldn't they be just as poisonous as they were back then? I know you can get organic food but in my local supermarket organic foods aren't always available 100% of the time.

[chris]

But without the amount of pesticides sprayed on vegetables nowadays couldn't they be just as poisonous as they were back then? I know you can get organic food but in my local supermarket organic foods aren't always available 100% of the time.

Organic is preferable but a lot of the time I don't bother.

DDT was demonised so they could ban it in Africa which caused millions to starve unnecessarily.

I would stay away from GM as much as possible though. That’s why I don’t eat corn.

I get 90% of my fruit from nature as it grows in abundance at this time of year.

[spiraltrance]

Organic is preferable but a lot of the time I don't bother.

DDT was demonised so they could ban it in Africa which caused millions to starve unnecessarily.

I would stay away from GM as much as possible though. That’s why I don’t eat corn.

I get 90% of my fruit from nature as it grows in abundance at this time of year.

Thanks for all your info. I'm seriously reconsidering trying raw veg diet again. I'll let you know how I get on. Lucky for you to have fresh fruit growing where you are - US I take it? We dont get any in england.

[chris]

Thanks for all your info. I'm seriously reconsidering trying raw veg diet again. I'll let you know how I get on. Lucky for you to have fresh fruit growing where you are - US I take it? We dont get any in england.

I wouldn't be so sure...I am from England as well and when you start to look you will find fruit everywhere. I laugh at the people buying apples at the supermarket now, picked wild they are free and taste so much better.

I am from Essex so I'm sure that nottingham has much more to offer than my town. I don't live close to the country. Even if you lived in the city you'd find many fruit tree's about the place...

I eat mostly apples and greengages...Just have a look about, soon the black berries and pears will come out en mass...

[neon]

Hi neon,

Protruding veins could be a sign of high blood pressure or the thickening of the blood.....unless your very slim, then the cause is due to lack of fat.

You ate salt like that?? Whoa....wouldn't want to imagine how THAT tasted lol!!

Anyway, wishing you a healthier lifestyle:D

Hi Lydia, thanks:D lol man i am sick. I was addicted to salt like crazy, i just loved the taste i guess eewww. But i havnt done that in like 5 months or so. I am healing slowing....Also i am normal weight 46kg not like stick skinny. I think its due to the lack of vitamins and sun, unhealthy lifestyle and lack of excercise i had.

Chris - Ive noticed my body has been healing anyways.....im just gonna learn how to eat better and be more active. Def fast from time to time.....

[cf24]

Hi Lydia, thanks:D lol man i am sick. I was addicted to salt like crazy, i just loved the taste i guess eewww. But i havnt done that in like 5 months or so. I am healing slowing....Also i am normal weight 46kg not like stick skinny. I think its due to the lack of vitamins and sun, unhealthy lifestyle and lack of excercise i had.

Chris - Ive noticed my body has been healing anyways.....im just gonna learn how to eat better and be more active. Def fast from time to time.....

If you have a craving for salt I think this indicates your deficient in Zinc or something similar, anyone confirm this?

[dark86]

well to go back to my original post-

now in day 3 and feel fine. really white tongue tho and crappy taste in mouth. last night had a massive headache and some sweats which a decent healing meditation cured
( Zen Planet Relaxation Meditation - YouTube )

today my perception is as clear as water, and i just bought some more veg juice which tastes tops, even walked past lots of food in the supermarket and it didnt bother me. Going to go for 4 days as i want the day past the third so my body can clear some real crap out.

now i know i can do this i aim to do a 4 day fast every month or two.

I realise how many times i eat just for the sake of it.

[chris]

If you have a craving for salt I think this indicates your deficient in Zinc or something similar, anyone confirm this?

Don't believe the anti salt bullshit. You need salt but just like sugar, you want natural unrefined salt, these have 80+ minerals in and will help you hydrate...Normal salt is shit and it tastes exactly the same, the only difference is that normal refined salt is evaporated in a furnace and natural salt is either gathered from minerals or taken out the sea and dried in the sun.

I use Himalayan salt and put it on my salads, delicious.

Think about it...Every liquid in your body is salty, every solid in your body is a mineral, why is salt bad? Because it is good! Heart attacks go through the roof on a low salt diet. Look at Gillian Anne McCeath (you are what you eat) she advocates a low salt diet and she's wasting away.

Think of the properties of salt, it preserves things...In maritime expaditions they kept their biscuits in salt to preserve their life.

This is why you see signs everywhere saying how bad salt is for you, population reduction. Only people wanting to be healthy will listen to the low salt diet and so it's like outa the frying pan into the fire.

Still have everything in moderation...

[chris]

well to go back to my original post-

now in day 3 and feel fine. really white tongue tho and crappy taste in mouth. last night had a massive headache and some sweats which a decent healing meditation cured
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNjaB0DoA_g )

today my perception is as clear as water, and i just bought some more veg juice which tastes tops, even walked past lots of food in the supermarket and it didnt bother me. Going to go for 4 days as i want the day past the third so my body can clear some real crap out.

now i know i can do this i aim to do a 4 day fast every month or two.

I realise how many times i eat just for the sake of it.

Sounds good...What white mucus on your tongue means your detoxifying...If you detoxify until your tongue becomes clear again, you probably will never eat badly again (as its a sign that you have burned up most of your toxins).

[lifeofbrian]

well to go back to my original post-

now in day 3 and feel fine. really white tongue tho and crappy taste in mouth. last night had a massive headache and some sweats which a decent healing meditation cured
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNjaB0DoA_g )

today my perception is as clear as water, and i just bought some more veg juice which tastes tops, even walked past lots of food in the supermarket and it didnt bother me. Going to go for 4 days as i want the day past the third so my body can clear some real crap out.

now i know i can do this i aim to do a 4 day fast every month or two.

I realise how many times i eat just for the sake of it.

Chewing the fluids you drink during the fast is a method rarely mentioned. By chewing, not only is the saliva activated, it is also a powerful mental satisfaction which can mean the difference between enjoying a fast or simply enduring it.

Some use a spoon to take in the fluids slowly. Chewing is a notch better.

[fremmenwarrior]

Quite recently there have been a number of tv documentary / health programs on the UK terrestrial channels, stating that fasting doesn't work and can be 'dangerous' - one BBC program stated that fasting 'is a complete waste of time.' However, THIS IS A LIE!

The drug companies (pharmakia) would have us buy their expensive (toxic) mish mash of pills, chemicals, potions and tablets etc., to cure simple ailments, so obviously they want to keep the powerful health-giving properties of fasting as quiet as possible - yes, even paying for tv programs to be made stating that fasting is dangerous / useless.

However, the ancient civilisations knew all about the health-promoting / increased longevity effects that regular fasting has upon the body. I admit that I was skeptical at first, but when you really get into regular fasting, you will find that it is a high-powered spiritual tool for cleansing body, mind, and spirit, all in one go!

How can the drug companies state that fasting is dangerous or uselesss when fasting is well documented in many ancient texts written by people in virtually EVERY civilisation in the world? The ancients had an instinctive understanding of the beneficial powers and health / longevity yielding properties of regular fasting.

Whenever we get sick, hunger pangs tend to diminish completely and we rest whilst the body heals itself naturally. If we try to force feed ourselves when we are ill, the result is often chronic indigestion, severe vomiting, gas, headaches, or other discomfort. Not eating promotes powerful healing in the body. When we fast, the huge amounts of energy needed to digest food is now utilised by the immune and lymphatic systems to heal the body naturally.

WHEN TO FAST

It is important to understand how and when to fast. In the toxic world in which we all live in today, embarking on a complete obstention from food and water, or a water only fast, may place considerable 'toxic-shock' burden upon the body, and is NOT recommended as first.

However, selected fasting, on a less vigorous fast (such as fruit and water only, or a broiled vegetables and water only fast), will cleanse the body of toxins and will bring improvement in such conditions as arthritis, digestive and intestinal problems, obesity and even diabetes (diabetics and pregant women must consult their GP before going on any fast). I FOUND THIS REALLY HELPFUL:

FASTING FOR SIX DAYS PER MONTH:

Suggest a one day per week fast of: water and fruit only, or water and vegetables only. Also, for maximum health benefits and cleansing effects, would suggest a three day fast of: water and fruit only, or water and vegetables only, once per month.

FOLLOW THIS SIMPLE MONTHLY DETOX / FASTING PROGRAM:

A ONE DAY FAST done once per week on Saturdays - for three consecutive weeks

then,

A THREE DAY FAST on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday of the fourth week.

If you get into the four-weekly routine of regular fasting on every Saturday for three consecutive weeks, then fast on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday of the fourth week of each month, so that fasting becomes part of your lifestyle. Thus, every month you will be fasting on water and fruit only, or water and vegetables only, for six days per month.

Ok, you need to be disciplined and don't break your fast. But I promise you that you will experience some amazing health benefits if you stick with it, and you will take on that healthy looking 'glow' as your body cleanses and detoxifies itself - your blood and soft tissues becomes cleaner - and your body restores to it's natural PH balance. The six days per month program should keep you in tip-top shape.

After one year you may wish to fast for longer periods.

FASTING FOR NINE DAYS PER MONTH:

Try a 2 days per week fast (on Friday and Saturday), then do the three day Friday, Saturday Sunday fast at the end of fourth week. In this way you will be fasting for 9 days per month.

After your fasting days are over, you mustn't be tempted to overeat lots of junk, chocolate, sugary, fatty foods etc (as a treat for completing the fast). This will have detrimental effects and shock the (cleansed) system. After each fast, ease back gently into eating regular foods - I don't eat meat anyway, but suggest you keep off the meat, sugar and dairy - go for whole grains, fresh fruit and vegetables, fruit smoothies, oatmeal / cornmeal porridge. I take fish oils and garlic perls; eat lots of onions, root ginger, fresh garlic and shallots (natural antiseptics) in veggie stir fry recipes and curries.

I was a junk food addict in my late teens - but now I truly believe that the body is our 'temple' and we should choose carefully what we put into it if we want to get the best out of it. Always try eat slowly, gently and serve yourself much smaller portions. I think people these days are encouraged (especially by advertising media) to eat far too many calories per day, and if you don't exercise regularly then you are asking for trouble.

Food manufacturers don't give a shit what chemicals, toxins, additives, preservatives, and high amounts of animal fat and sugar goes into their pre-packaged crap - and that's without the high bacteria content in many pre-packaged foods!! I've seen stuff on the net showing that a lot of the meat and fish on the supermarket shelves is only just above the level of decomposing!! and people shovel down this shite - no wonder we get ill. I wouldn't touch any of it!! Even mass-produced bread has unknown stuff added to it, so get a breadmaker - buy fresh strong bread flours and bake your own bread and cakes.

**********

As a personal testimony to this fasting program - I lost 30lbs of excess weight (fat) in one year!! on the 6 day per month fasting program (eating normally but smaller portions on regular days).

I cured myself of an eating disorder (which had all but wrecked and ruled my life up to that point); my thinning hair has now grown back completely. I suffered from recurring yeast infections (jock-itch) in my groin and armpits area which I had for years, but that has completely cleared up too. My friends are always saying that I don't look half my age and I can easily walk 10 miles at power-walking pace without hardly breaking into a sweat.

Honestly, this is proof that *they* LIE about EVERYTHING; and I believe that *they* are quite literally CULLING THE HUMAN POPULATION using chemicals and additives in highly processed pre-packaged foods, junk food, bottled water, soft drinks, so-called medicines, pills etc., and *they* only want people to live until their mid-fifties when *they* consider people as life expired.

Strange that a lot of the Chinese, Japanese, and eastern peoples (who fast regularly and live on grain-based lower calorie diets (with little animal fat, dairy and sugar) easily live to 100 - 120 years.

Again, hope you find this useful.
All the best,
Fremmenwarrior.

[fremmenwarrior]

Chris, agree - if you don't get stale breath and a little white mucus on the back of the tongue - then you probably ain't fasting properly. Best to brush the teeth and tongue regularly whilst fasting.

Once you detoxify and the body's PH levels restore to normal, the tongue becomes clean and pink again. Chew cardomon seeds, or try sipping a glass of warm water with a couple of slices of fresh lemon and a small piece of peeled fresh root ginger soaked in it - a great mouth/breath freshener and internal cleanser.

[spiraltrance]

Quite recently there have been a number of tv documentary / health programs on the UK terrestrial channels, stating that fasting doesn't work and can be 'dangerous' - one BBC program stated that fasting 'is a complete waste of time.' However, THIS IS A LIE!

The drug companies (pharmakia) would have us buy their expensive (toxic) mish mash of pills, chemicals, potions and tablets etc., to cure simple ailments, so obviously they want to keep the powerful health-giving properties of fasting as quiet as possible - yes, even paying for tv programs to be made stating that fasting is dangerous / useless.

Agreed. I've fasted before and after 2 days or so you'r body feels really light, you feel clean inside. Your head is clearer and you sleep less. I did feel a bit tireder though.

It made me realise that our body doesn't need probably 50-60% of the food we eat. Though we've been conditioned from young into eating 3 large meals a day and our bodies have a built a dependancy on 'nice food'.

I asked my doctor once for his advice because I told him I was intending on doing a 3-5 day fast. He told me not to do it and that there's no 'scientific' evidence showing any benefits for it. I told him about a story I heard some people have cured chronic illness from fasting and he said 'Well things like occasionaly happen and it's not necesarily the fasting'. I think my doctor had my best intentions when he advised me against it but it goes to show our medical schools are biased to a particular viewpoint.

[fremmenwarrior]

Hi Spiraltrance,

Yes I agree - it's true, people do eat more than they need and indeed are encouraged to overeat, drink too much (and under-exercise) these days, evident from the chronic levels of obesity / heart disease we have in Western society these days.

I can remember being encouraged to drink pints and pints of (full fat) milk as a kid, and the huge portions my parents would serve up 3 times per day - you weren't allowed to leave the table until you had cleaned the plate!

Agree, the doctors seem reluctant to discuss or prescribe fasting and my own GP is strongly against it. Perhaps this is because they receive money for every drug prescription they write, and also the multi-national drug companies give huge amounts of money to local heath authorities if their medical staff 'push' their particular brand of 'medecine' on patients.

The delicate balance of the PH levels (acidity / alkalinity) of our blood plays a critical role in our overall health, vitality and longevity. There is a lot of research out there now showing that overeating, under-exercising and eating a diet high in animal meat, animal fat, dairy, and sugar have a terrible effect on the bodys PH levels, making the body VERY ACIDIC.

Our blood is rarely too alkaline because the modern day diet focuses on acid-forming proteins; also, most of the natural chemical reactions in the body create acidity in the body tissues. We naturally balance the PH levels in the body simply by respiration (breathing in air). The breath removes acids from the body before they can build up and cause pain, inflammation or disease.

However, if we're taking in too many calories, not exercising and breathing deeply on a regular basis, and if we eat an overly-acidic diet, the acids build up and the body tries to balance on its own; but when overloaded, the body almost always creates a disease of some sort, as a direct result of this chronic PH imbalance.

Disciplining your body to do without food for one day per week for 3 weeks, and then Fri, Sat, Sun of the 4th week has amazing healing and heatlh-promoting properties.

A classic example of how a lower calorie diet increases longevity, is the OAP's of today, (those who lived through the 2 world wars). They lived on a diet of staple foods, cereals, grains, bread, veggies, and had little meat, dairy and eggs. They endured food rationing and had to go without all the fancy chemical-laden crap we can buy at the supermarkets these days - and yet many elderly people today who lived through that period of doing without, are healthy, sprightly and living to their late 90's and into their early 100's.

So there must be something of value in regular fasting (and also surviving on much less food than we 'think' we need), that's worth a serious look - regardless of what the medical profession says.

Cheers,
Fremmenwarrior.

[strider]

O.k. I haven't read the whole thing through but in reply to the original question..

Drink lots of pure water and fresh fruit juices.
Do plenty of gentle exercises and stretching to speed the detox up.
Look up something called 'four thieves vinegar'. It's a potent health drink and cleanser, amongst other things.
If you have a bit of money to spare take a look at this site www.blessedherbs.com
If you do really feel you need to eat during a fast, eat a small about of bowel stimulating fibre..
Don't fast too often!!!