Russian scientist photos souls.

[jamesc]

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These astonishing images are said to show the human spirit (in blue) leaving the body.
Russian scientist Dr Konstantin Korotkov claims that the pictures show the exact moment of death.

The images show "the soul" gradually slipping out of the body before the patient's image turns red. Talk about an out-of-body experience...

The activity of Konstantin Korotkov, deputy director of the St. Petersburg Research Institute of Physical Culture and world-renowned authority on Kirlian photography, was recently highlighted by Life.ru. Korotkov is the developer of the gas-discharge visualization (GDV) technique in Kirlian photography.

Kirlian photography takes its name from Soviet electrician Semyon Kirlian, who discovered the process in 1939. It was the subject of extensive research in the 1970s in the Soviet Union and the West. It is commonly described as photographing an object’s aura. According to a website associated with Korotkov, he “confirmed earlier observations… that the stimulated electro-photonic glow around human fingertips contained astonishingly coherent and comprehensive information about the human state – both physiological and psychological.”

In other words, the GDV technique, which was developed in the late 1990s, can be used for diagnostic and assessment purposes. It is already used to measure stress and monitor the progress of medical treatments. In its most sophisticated form, the GDV technique is incorporated with computer imaging.

Now scientists have taken GDV photographs of a person as he was dying. In the photos, it could be seen that the area of the belly lost its life force (the purported soul) first, followed by the head. The heart and groin were the last to lose their life force, in that order.

Scientists using the GDV technique say that the aura of those who die unexpectedly or violently differs from those who experience a calm death. The souls of the former remain in a state of confusion for several days and return frequently to their bodies, especially at night. Korotkov ascribes that phenomenon to unused energy retained by the soul. He suggests that the GDV technique will also have applications for distinguishing genuine psychics from frauds. Source

Dr Korotkov's Research Website & Conscious Media Network Interview


http://2012changesarenow.blogspot.com/2009/08/russian-scientist-photographs-souls.html


Interesting stuff here on the reality of the soul.

[marpat]

Or it could be heat leaving the body. Why would the souls appear on a thermal scan and why would Russian doctors be looking for something like that If it was so easy to find it would have been done by now.

[unusual_suspect]

That is just thermal imaging, I've seen it before!

[merlincove]

Hm, i'm thinking that it is heat too, marpat :rolleyes:

Same as these aura photographs you see every mind body and spirit fest, they are just computer generated images, nothing more.

[jamesc]

Or it could be heat leaving the body. Why would the souls appear on a thermal scan and why would Russian doctors be looking for something like that If it was so easy to find it would have been done by now.

Yes i did think that myself but is it possible to detect something like the soul by PHYSICAL means/technology??Is bodily heat any set organised pattern in which it leaves the physical body?? Solar plexus then heart then head followed by all other so called spiritual chakas centres first ?? Or is it just pure coincidence??:confused::cool:

[jamesc]

There are several energy lines between chakras/sephiroth: these lines globally result into 7 layers of aura:




http://occult-advances.org/images/aura.jpg



Layer 1 : physical body

Layer 2 : etheric body; brings together all bottom chakras; acupuncture meridians are the energetic lines of this body

Layer 3 : inner astral body : around the heart: link between soul and matter; silver cord

Layer 4 psychic body: ego, has to be dominated

Layer 5 : spiritual body; brings together all top chakras: each thought draws a line of energy in this body

Layer 6 : divine body : spiritual potential is linked with the quality and quantity of energy of this body

Layer 7 : outer astral body, in contact with exterior macrocosm

Feeling aura layers needs training. try to feel them :

http://occult-advances.org/images/aura3.jpg

http://occult-advances.org/

If there is energies that radiate from our body but are encased out side of the body then can these be detected, computer generated images or aurora are possible but what if the confusion lies in being able to differentiate the two.:cool::confused:

[marpat]

Yes i did think that myself but is it possible to detect something like the soul by PHYSICAL means/technology??Is bodily heat any set organised pattern in which it leaves the physical body?? Solar plexus then heart then head followed by all other so called spiritual chakas centres first ?? Or is it just pure coincidence??:confused::cool:

Maybe it depends on what major organs die in what order.

[jamesc]

Maybe it depends on what major organs die in what order.

Maybe but if science is using physical means/technology to detect or prove NON-PHYSICAL realities then is there a possibility that it will fail along those lines. In so much as it is using physical means when this is insufficient to do so?? If so then we are reliant on people who report experiences of astral projections were they claim the conciousness survives and they are concious that they are not in their physical bodies.

[marpat]

Maybe but if science is using physical means/technology to detect or prove NON-PHYSICAL realities then is there a possibility that it will fail along those lines. In so much as it is using physical means when this is insufficient to do so?? If so then we are reliant on people who report experiences of astral projections were they claim the conciousness survives and they are concious that they are not in their physical bodies.

So if this were the case then that device should show people astral projecting. I would also think that any effort at concentration should show something as the mind will be directed and focussed towards something.

Personally I am doubtful of physical machines that claim to measure non-physical, or meta-physical, things.

People claiming they can project can be tested by very simple means, such as placing an object in a remote location. If they can identify the object then something is as work. Personally I do not feel the need to prove spiritual things by material methods.

Not only that but what if the subtle body is more of an inner dimension. Would a device pick up something that is on an inner plane?

[jamesc]

So if this were the case then that device should show people astral projecting. I would also think that any effort at concentration should show something as the mind will be directed and focussed towards something.

Personally I am doubtful of physical machines that claim to measure non-physical, or meta-physical, things.

People claiming they can project can be tested by very simple means, such as placing an object in a remote location. If they can identify the object then something is as work. Personally I do not feel the need to prove spiritual things by material methods.

Not only that but what if the subtle body is more of an inner dimension. Would a device pick up something that is on an inner plane?

Yes i agree with that was just trying to point out that the materialistic physical sciences are using methods that are not capable of detecting spiritual or higher frequencies with physical methods.:cool:

[lost_in_translation]

to determine if it was body heat we would have to get a time line and since we have no way of knowing for sure how long the pic sequence was i would have to say keep looking

[rhydra]

Astral projection won't leave any physical evidence of leaving or entering. My guess is that a change in consciousness alters the blood flow in areas of the body and can be picked up in infrared. I do believe in souls, astral projection and the like but It's always wise to discount the more obvious explanations before jumping down a blind alley.

[jamesc]

A Trip to the Moon.

From the earliest times of my astral projection investigations, I wanted to make one of my destinations the moon. I read over and over in books how people would go to their friend's house or some such thing, but all I could think of was "how boring!" Maybe it was my natural love of space that created this desire, but all I knew was that I would not give up until my goal of seeing Earth from the surface of the moon had been met.

I typically don't post too many of my personal astral projection experiences, as they are all deeply personal, but someone sent me a link recently that supported a very odd thing that I saw on the moon.

First let me outline my astral endeavor to the moon. I did my hemi-sync tape before bed, and sometime during the night I became lucid while vibrating heavily. I was able to separate my astral arms and pull myself out. I went outside and searched the night sky for the moon, of which I was able to locate. Then, I started to fly towards it, but this was taking an agonizingly long time so I decided to see if I could simply "will" myself to it. Before I could finish that thought, I was on the dark side of the moon. I couldn't see earth so I skimmed the surface until I could see earth shimmering in front of me. The colors are more intense in the astral so it was a wondrous vision for me. At last!

Now, here's where it got interesting. After I admired the Earth for a while, I was approached by a man who said almost nothing to me, but instead led me below the loamy gray surface of the moon to a compound. I've attempted to describe this before, and I've used the terms "military" or "research facility". It had the feel of being primarily inhabited by men (versus perhaps a family feel to it). We didn't do much except look around for a while. I saw an area similar to a "mess hall" with things like cigarette butts and trash. The rest was rather boring and sterile in detail.

Well, the link that was recently sent to me included a reference to a book written by Ingo Swann. In his new book, "Penetration" it states that the book "Reveals a long-held secret series of experiences with a 'deep black' agency whose apparent charter was simple: UFOs and extraterrestrials on the moon..." There was also mention of military involvement and an underground structure. Most people in the astral projection/remote viewing community are familiar with Ingo Swann. Here's a copy of his bio: "Ingo Swann, parapsychology researcher, author, and artist, is the originator of the Coordinate Remote Viewing protocols. He has an MA and a Doctorate in Humanities with a concentration in parapsychology, and another honorary Doctorate degree. He worked at the United nations for 12 years. He is now retired and living in Manhattan where he continues his personal research into the vast possible potentials of the human mind."

While this is hardly evidence that what I saw was real (A military type underground compound) it was interesting non-the-less. A seemingly outlandish claim (for both of us), but most would say that anyways about astral projection.

Additionally, here is a related excerpt from "The Energy Grid" by Bruce L. Cathie. "During my many years of research I have uncovered a considerable body of evidence pointing to the existence of projects being carried out on a world-wide basis which have direct connections with UFOs. From this evidence the logical conclusion is that top scientists and electronic engineers have direct contact and communication with UFOs. I also believe it is most probable that a Moon-base has already been established by our own scientists. The advanced technology would give them this capability. When the rocket program was wound down years ago, it was probably because it was obsolete.";)

Here's some links on moon structures:
Moon Object Footage
Comment about Moon Object Footage http://shadowboxent.brinkster.net/moon/esjmoon.html
www.mufor.org/moon.html
www.vgl.org/
I'd be interested in hearing from other projectors, if they have seen this as well.

Take care,
Anne


http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/moon.html

[marpat]

to determine if it was body heat we would have to get a time line and since we have no way of knowing for sure how long the pic sequence was i would have to say keep looking

If such a device was actually reading soul energy then it would be possible to prove hauntings as well would it not. All you would have to do is walk around cemetaries and hanted places and hope one pops up.

Also, if it were a soul would it not continue to travel rather than just disappear once it reached the extreme point of the body

[jamesc]

If such a device was actually reading soul energy then it would be possible to prove hauntings as well would it not. All you would have to do is walk around cemetaries and hanted places and hope one pops up.

Also, if it were a soul would it not continue to travel rather than just disappear once it reached the extreme point of the body

I think the disappearance of the soul that happens after the extreme heat point of the body could be that at that critical point the sould enters or submerges into the next frequency range , undetectable by the current physical technology's we have today or what we are ALLOWED to be aware of in our current technology.:cool: