urine therapy / a cure for all disease

[astraltraveller]

urine therapy is the consumption of your own wee wee . sounds disgusting doesnt is especialy when we have been told that body toxins are excreeted via urine . well its bullshit . the urine is known to science as the most perfect and most advanced medicine known to humankind . the urine is not a waist product , it is infact food wich has been produced by the blood and has every single vitamin and mineral and hormone in it that the body needs and thier are infact so many that science has still not finneshed catalogueing them . your body is a big fractal or series of fractals , a perfect mathmatical equation that is self suffictient providing it is fed and waterd .

pharmacuitical companies do not whant you to know that many drugs and even buity products contain islolated elements of human urine . some cancer drugs are made of some of the elements of human urine and then sold for so much money many cannot afford the treatment yet they are carrying the tratment with them all along and it is fresh and free and in abundance , so big pharma realy is litteraly taking the piss out of us .

Most human illnesses and diseases are due to a deficiency of vital nutrients!

and they are all in your very own urine!

the only drawback i have found with this therapy is that if you are taking pharmacuitical drugs then it is said you cannot do this therapy .

if all this is hard to swallow "pun intended" then do some digging .

drink and be merry

[smariot]

Why do humans need to urinate at all, then?

[megafish33]

I think the educateyourself website as an article on this "therapy." Hey, whatever works I guess... To those it has helped: more power to ya!

[astraltraveller]

one reason people pee is because when we eat we cannot allways proccess all the nutrients from the food wich goes into the blood so these exseses of nutriens from the blood have to coe out and the body wich is like a manufaturing factory of vitamins/minerals/hormones are made by the body itself and are not just from the food.

another reason we pee must be because we are 80% water and need fresh water to clean out kidneys and other organs and replace the bodies reserve or something like that anyway .


now dont be shy , you know your desperate to guzzle down some fresh pee :D

[lemonique]

one reason people pee is because when we eat we cannot allways proccess all the nutrients from the food wich goes into the blood so these exseses of nutriens from the blood have to coe out and the body wich is like a manufaturing factory of vitamins/minerals/hormones are made by the body itself and are not just from the food.

another reason we pee must be because we are 80% water and need fresh water to clean out kidneys and other organs and replace the bodies reserve or something like that anyway .


now dont be shy , you know your desperate to guzzle down some fresh pee :D

LoL no I'm not!:D
But would pee be good for psoriasis? I have thought of trying it on a couple of small patches on elbow.

Cheers
Lemonique

[castoroil]

Hi,
My grand mother used her own pee to acquire a sheen on her furniture!

[astraltraveller]

hello Lemonique


many thanks for your question , i whant as many people as possible to respond to my health posts so the more questions i am asked then the more answers thier will be for other people and it might help me stumble upon something that will help me plus lime lady made an amaizing new post to get all the healers together to send remote healing to everyone that needs it and she set up the post to help me and others and im so greatfull i whant to contribute here everything i think will help . my aim is to bring a solution to every single health problem in exsistance to the david icke website and to provide healing methods that are free werever possible but sometimes it seems thier is no option but to have to pay for something to cure something and in that case i try not to mention a product name to prove i am not affiliated with any company but sometimes this is not possible for me but i am working hard to find free alternatives for healing a problem and urine therapy is said to be able to cure any illness and ovcourse urine is free but it hasnt been an option for me because im on toxic addictive drugs and you cannot use urine therapy if you are on drugs . ok got that out of the way now onwards to the skin problem in question and thank you for reading thus far .

urine is said to be great for skin complaints when applied externally but i have read that it is even better for external use if you put some in a cup or something and let it stand for so many days because it matures and this increses its potency but im not sure how many days to leave it and how long is too long because you dont whant to use it when it is stagnant yuck! . but im sure its ok to leave it 3 days then use it then make another batch but i will try finding out the correct times to leave it . drinking it makes people with gry hair resume thier naturel color and it makes nails strong and healthy again but as you whant to treat a skin complaint then try applying it 3 times a day and see how that goes . i must ass im not an expert because i only learned from the internet because i did try drinking it for a while but i was not getting any better and realized it must be true that you cant drink it while on drugs .

if you do not whant to try this therapy for any reason then colloidal silver is suposed to be great for skin conditions and it also is great for pets when drank or applied externally . i read someone with a horse that had a very bad wound was healed with colloidal silver but it can cost a lot of money to keep buying this so i purchased a colloidal silver maker . first i made my own and you can do this if you like and might do a better job of it than me but the one i made with parts from maplins electronics only cost a few pounds to make but it used a lot of batteries and it just was so lame . thiers a lot of cheap colloidal silver makers on the net but i purchased one by sota because it has a timmer so you can just leave it as it switches off automaticly and got a matching brain tuner but you can shop around to buy the cheapest or look on the net for instructions to make your own but if i was you i would save money and try the free urine therapy because its free and dont worry that it is dirty because it is not because urine is actualy sterile and can even be used on open wounds so thiers no need to worry about brocken skin and infections from using urine and it is so powerfull when used internally it can even cure brain tumours .

sorry to ramble on and thanks for your question and i hope this helps and if you still have questions dont hesitate to ask and ile do my best to find out for you .

[astraltraveller]

hello casteroil

many thanks for your tip , i never knew you could use urine in this way but here i have a cleaning lady and she likes mr sheen and i dont think ile be able to convert her to using pee lol .

[notaslave]

I think they are taking the piss.

[ho1ogram]

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But would pee be good for psoriasis? I have thought of trying it on a couple of small patches on elbow.

G'day lemonique, I think it would be great for that. I have used urine topically lots of times. Soldiers used to use it for their blisters and sores in the trenches. Simply move your fingers under your stream and dabble a bit on the affected area, it works best if you do it a few times during the day.

I read a great book on urine therapy, it is available here:
http://www.holisticpage.com.au/_Harald_Tietze.php

If people do an internet search on urine therapy they'll find a lot of information. Here are some links:

http://battathiri-india.sulekha.com/blog/post/2004/04/urine-therapy-shivambu-kalpa.htm

http://innerself.ca/Health/urine.htm

http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html

http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/traditional-therapies/urine-therapy.asp

http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/19/urine.html

There is another thread on it here:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3577&highlight=urine

your body is a big fractal or series of fractals I agree... reality is one large fractal I reckon... we are perfect inside of a perfect creation.
All is one, all parts contain the whole.... your urine contains an up to date blueprint of your bodies health. When ingested your 'mind' reads the blueprint and tells your immune system which areas need healing.

THANK YOU

[astraltraveller]

hello ho1ogram


many thanks for your help for lemonique and your testamony , this might be good encouagement for others to try it .

i am on tabblets so i cant do it but now im just down to being on painkillers , do you know if i could try this therapy again while being on just painkillers or do you realy have to be free of all drugs ? . i just came off tranquilizers the otger day .

if you come back to this thread i would be realy greatfull for any advice as i know this therapy works and i need to get rid of asthma and chronic fatigue and diabeties .

[lemonique]

Hi Astral Traveller and Hologram!!

Thanks a bunch for your information ppls. :)
I'm going to give the pee a go, and I'll let you know if it works. I used some Cider Vinegar today, I'll see if that works first. I read somewhere that lemon juice is also good, and I have a lemon tree, so I guess I'll try that too.
Really appreciate your help folks!!!

Cheers
Lemonique XX

[lemonique]

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G'day lemonique, I think it would be great for that. I have used urine topically lots of times. Soldiers used to use it for their blisters and sores in the trenches. Simply move your fingers under your stream and dabble a bit on the affected area, it works best if you do it a few times during the day.

I read a great book on urine therapy, it is available here:
http://www.holisticpage.com.au/_Harald_Tietze.php

If people do an internet search on urine therapy they'll find a lot of information. Here are some links:

http://battathiri-india.sulekha.com/blog/post/2004/04/urine-therapy-shivambu-kalpa.htm

http://innerself.ca/Health/urine.htm

http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html

http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/traditional-therapies/urine-therapy.asp

http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/19/urine.html

There is another thread on it here:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3577&highlight=urine

I agree... reality is one large fractal I reckon... we are perfect inside of a perfect creation.
All is one, all parts contain the whole.... your urine contains an up to date blueprint of your bodies health. When ingested your 'mind' reads the blueprint and tells your immune system which areas need healing.

THANK YOU


This is exciting!!
Scroll down to Shiramba Gita... number 19.. on the
http://battathiri-india.sulekha.com/...ambu-kalpa.htm site..
apparently after a period of time on urine you are able to FLY!!!!!!!:eek:
Wow...must try :D

Cheers
Lem.

[lemonique]

I think they are taking the piss.

I appreciate your sense of humour!!!

Hi castoroil, good hint thanks!! but I may give it a miss just for now ;)

Cheers
Lemonique

[castoroil]

hi,

you know it doesnt smell at all and it really works. I saw my gran do it once on an old chest and after that the chest was beautiful and all shiny!
Take care all.
Pat.

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G'day astraltraveller,
I haven't used it for any of those ailments but on this thread: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3577 orgo knight uses when he/she is run down and cupevampe uses it as part of his/her diet to treat diabetes.

As for drinking it while on medication it might be good to do some research in that area as it does seem to reintroduce the drug back into the body. In some cultures urine has been drunk by people on natural hallucinogens to prolong the high. I have read about people in one culture who would give the women a plant to consume and then the men would drink the women's urine... apparently the men didn't suffer the unpleasant side effects of the plant only the women... so the men got high and the women got sick.

With anything the diet is important and so is a positive outlook. I like lemonique's signature "angels fly because they take themselves lightly".

If your put off by the smell just hold your nose. Without the smell it has no taste.

And remember to love yourself. :)

THE SOURCE


A HEALING LIGHT,

CLEAN AND PURE,

TO WIN THE FIGHT,

LOVE IS THE CURE.


OUT WITH THE OLD,

AND IN WITH THE NEW,

AN IDEA TO HOLD,

TO YOURSELF BE TRUE.


HAVE NO FEAR,

AND YOU WILL SEE,

A LOVE SO CLEAR,

IT'S DIVINITY.

By i am all i am



THANK YOU

[astraltraveller]

thanks lemonique for your cidar vinegar and lemon juice tips and whatever you try i hope it works fast for you . thanks also for your link , i would like to read that , i cant get it working at the moment though but it could be my proxy .

god bless you


castoroil

thanks for your furnature polish tip , i wasnt sure if you were joking but i know for sure you are not now . gran allways knows best :)


ho1ogram

thanks very much for your advice and for the link wich ile be checking out in a bit . it looks like i will have to wait to get off the last tabblet before i try this again but i am definitly going to go back to it .

i like lemoniques signature too , i try to not take anything to serious because life is just like a big movie plus ile never win any awards for my acting ability when it ends :)

lime ladies signature about the plastic dog turd makes me chuckle every time i think about it .


thanks again everyone and god bless you all

astral

[karma19]

My nan used wee on her bunions and they went...........Hi presto

[ho1ogram]

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No worries AT, have fun :)

You may be able to begin taking it in a homeopathic dilution before you get off your tablets, as this consists of just a few drops of your urine it may be safe. It's an idea for you to explore if you wish, there are some details here: http://www.universal-tao.com/article/therapy.html

Apple cider vinegar may be good for your energy levels, http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html and probably okay to take while on medication.

THANK YOU

[ho1ogram]

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Hi,
My grand mother used her own pee to acquire a sheen on her furniture!

My nan used wee on her bunions and they went...........Hi presto
This is why the system wants to lock up gran and gramps in the nursing home... to suppress the old school info that can free people from chemical and drug companies..:D

THANK YOU

[astraltraveller]

thanks a bunch ho1ogram , some great info thier , rite im definitly going to take urine homeopathicly , im sure it can only be good plus im off the tranquilizers now so im only on one drug and the tranquilizers cause asthma and diabneties and alter blood glucose and protiene production and enzymes from the liver and realy hurt the immune system and cause brain damage and god knows what else but with them out of the way i stand a better chance of the urine therapy working .

i have heard good things about cidar vinegar too so im gonna get some .

thanks a lot dude its great to have someone here who knows about this amaizing fee therapy . i was put off from learning more because i read it cant be used by people on meds plus ive seen books on it on amazon costing upto $100 wow lol thats so much for a book but it must mean it realy is a good therapy .

god bless you all

love and light

astral

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thanks a lot dude its great to have someone here who knows about this amaizing fee therapy .

No worries.
I cured myself of hepc and some blood sugar complaints. I explored many things includiing urine therapy but the healing really began when I made the conscious choice to be healthy... the healing ended when I said I was healed and lived it. What we think, say and do creates our reality... perceiving from the physical plane of awareness it seems as though this doesn't work but that is because of the illusion of time... From the 'human experience' perspective there is a time lag between the quantum world of thought and the Newtonian physical plane of experience. People often make a decision, but then change their mind about it before they have seen the results manifest. They revert to the old thought patterns and the old reality remains in place.

I was reading the book Conversations with God today. Here is an extract that is relevant to creating one's health:
Life is a creation, not a discovery.
You do not live each day to discover what it holds for you, but to create it. You are creating your reality every minute, probably without knowing it.
Here’s why that is so, and how that works.
1. I have created you in the image and likeness of God.
2. God is the creator.
3. You are three beings in one. You can call these three aspects of being anything you want: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; mind, body, and spirit; superconscious, conscious, subconscious.
4. Creation is a process that proceeds from these three parts of your body. Put another way, you create at three levels. The tools of creation are: thought, word, and deed.
5. All creation begins with thought (“Proceeds from the Father”). All creation then moves to word (“Ask and you shall receive, speak and it shall be done unto you”). All creation is fulfilled in deed (“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us”).
6. That which you think of, but thereafter never speak of, creates at one level. That which you think of and speak of creates at another level. That which you think, speak, and do becomes made manifest in your reality.
7. To think, speak, and do something which you do not truly believe is impossible. Therefore, the process of creation must include belief, or knowing. This is absolute faith. This is beyond hoping. This is knowing of a certainty (“By your faith shall ye be healed”). Therefore, the doing part of creation always includes knowing. It is a gut-level clarity, a total certainty, a complete acceptance as reality of something.
8. This place of knowing is a place of intense and incredible gratitude. It is a thankfulness in advance. And that, perhaps, is the biggest key to creation: to be grateful before, and for, the creation. Such taking for granted is not only condoned, but encouraged. It is the sure sign of mastery. All Masters know in advance that the deed has been done.
9. Celebrate and enjoy all that you create, have created. To reject any part of it is to reject a part of yourself. Whatever it is that is now presenting itself as part of your creation, own it, claim it, bless it, be thankful for it. Seek not to condemn it (“God damn it! “), for to condemn it is to condemn yourself.
10. If there is some aspect of creation you find you do not enjoy, bless it and simply change it. Choose again. Call forth a new reality. Think a new thought. Say a new word. Do a new thing. Do this magnificently and the rest of the world will follow you. Ask it to. Call for it to. Say, “I am the Life and the Way, follow me.”
This is how to manifest God’s will “on Earth as it is in Heaven.”

If it is all as simple as that, if these ten steps are all we need, why does it not work that way for more of us?

It does work that way, for all of you. Some of you are using the “system” consciously, with full awareness, and some of you are using it unconsciously, without even knowing what you are doing.
Some of you are walking in wakefulness, and some of you are sleepwalking. Yet all of you are creating your reality—creating, not discovering—using the power I have given you, and the process I’ve just described.

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This is exciting!!
Scroll down to Shiramba Gita... number 19.. on the
http://battathiri-india.sulekha.com/...ambu-kalpa.htm site..
apparently after a period of time on urine you are able to FLY!!!!!!!:eek:
Wow...must try :D

Cheers
Lem.

G'day Lem, yeah I remember reading in the book I had that Yogis or gurus or what have you drink it daily for years and are able to levitate.. :cool:

I was reading about honey cures today, heres one for the skin:
http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Newswire/Back_issues/newswire_2004_03_25_1.htm

http://www.honeybook.net/psoriasis.shtml

THANK YOU

[celtic isis]

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G'day lemonique, I think it would be great for that. I have used urine topically lots of times. Soldiers used to use it for their blisters and sores in the trenches. Simply move your fingers under your stream and dabble a bit on the affected area, it works best if you do it a few times during the day.



hehe only you could put that in such an erotic way hologram! :D

I would never do this though, maybe topically as for jelly fish stings etc but drinking it...never. :eek:

fair play to anyone who does though!

[astraltraveller]

my gran told me the other day that during the second world war the poor soldiers had to live on pee and scrounge for turnips in the feilds . she says the soldiers have said for years that people dont realie what they sacrificed for people . it made me sad when she told me this because as we know all the wars were orchestraited to make money and were sacrificed in a ritualistic way and the elite have allays seeked to lower the population of young men and older . it pisses me off that these soldiers were duped and had been led to believe they were serving thier country and saving the country from an enemy . even though they were living in an illusive war they are still heros .

[pacoquerak]

The idea THAT I SHOULD CONSUME MY OWN URIN BECAUSE GOD MADE ME EXACTLY THE WAY I AM SUPOSED TO BE IS INSANE. Not sure if that is the main stream idea that you are trying to get across, but it stuck out to me. In the states here we got poison nettles and the best way to get rid of it is a good piss. I think though this is because the nettles poison is some sort of an iron compound and your urin actualy rusts it off. Like when you break the stem it quickly oxidizes and turns purple. What's funny is it makes a pretty good cooked vegtable or tea for something that makes you itch like crazy if you happen to move against it. Super high in iron. I would like some like real scientific proof here before like you get all these people "yo check it out people on david icke's site are starting to drink their own urin what a bunch of loons!" or something. Just seems really fishy.

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G'day pacoquerak,

there is science behind the urine therapy, there are plenty of links there for you to explore. Here's a starter:
Q. Can you think of any specific modern scientists as living examples to substantiate this theory?

A. Dr. Morris Mezel, Chief Surgeon of Edgewater Hospital, Chicago, USA states that there is no substance more efficacious than urokinase (urine extract) to treat heart disease. Dr Maganbhai Salaria of Ahmedabad injects patients with their own urine when preparing them for various surgeries. He says, it prevents post-surgical complications and maintains the efficiency of the heart. Dr Hamao, Professor, Medical University of Kyoto, Japan has isolated a substance from human urine, which is beneficial in the treatment of cancer (The Illustrated Weekly of India, August 26, 1973). Nobel Laureate Albert Sczent Georgyi has had considerable success with methyl glyoxal (a urine extract) in the treatment of cancer. The English treatise on therapeutics, 'Salmon's English Physician', 1695, talks of the prophylactic and healing properties of urine.
http://www.lankaeverything.com/go/front/index.htm?bypass=19


The extract from CwG has nothing to do with urine. I posted that as I was talking about self healing... the idea being that you can heal yourself... with or without any treatment you desire. If you are familiar with DI's work then you'll kknow he states that we are in charge of our own reality.. we are God.. I'm God and you're God (and I'm not taking the piss :D) we are parts of the whole. When the extract I quoted above is read within the context of the book you can see that 'God' isn't some being out there or something that we are seperate from or need to be 'saved' (I don't go in for that saviour shit.. we are already complete, we're not sinful, we have merely chosen to forget that we are God/All That Is so we may experience this frequency of perception).

Your worried about people associating you with urine drinking because of something that is posted on a site that you visit? Ha.. what about me..I've been posting lots of the info... I bet peopel are taking the piss (:D) but who cares? Btw - I've only tried it twice, for a week each time, once while coming off drugs and the other to try it as a tonic. It's full of good stuff:
The following are the average quantities of the various substances listed below, in 100 milliliters of urine as reported in 'Introduction to Biochemistry' by Dr. Pharon:

Substance

Milligrams

1] Urea nitrogen

682.00

2] Urea

1459.00

3] Creatinin nitrogen

36.00

4] Creatinin

97.20

5] Uric acid nitrogen

12.30

6] Uric acid

36.90

7] Amino nitrogen

9.70

8] Ammonia nitrogen

57.00

9] Sodium

212.00

10] Potassium

137.00

11] Calcium

19.50

12] Magnesium

11.30

13] Chloride

314.00

14] Total sulphate

91.00

15] Inorganic sulphate

83.00

16] Inorganic phosphate

127.00

17] N/10 acid

27.80

Some other important constituents of Shivambu are as follows:

Enzymes

Amylase (diastase).

Lactic dehydrogenate (L. D. H.).

Leucine amino-peptidase (L. A. P.).

Urokinase.

Hormones

Catechol amines.

Hydroxy-steroids.

17-Catosteroids.

Erythropoietine.

Adenylate cyclase.

Prostaglandin's.

Sex hormones.

Miscellaneous

Copper.

Urobilinogen.


As a knowledgeable qualified doctor has pointed out, there is a strong possibility of there being several other beneficial substances not yet know to science, in addition to the above substances, present in urine.
http://www.hps-online.com/hurine3.htm
Q. So what are the beneficial compounds that have been discovered to boost one's health or to act as a preventative agent against disease?

A. Hundreds of substances beneficial to human health have been identified in urine with more and more being discovered and many more yet to be known to science. To call it a 'waste product' is not semantically correct. It is excess water that is pumped out to maintain body fluid balance and with it many nutrients in a potentised form are pumped out. It is this potentised nature of urine that exerts a positive influence upon the physiology. In homoeopathy, drugs are potentised and it is this potentised effect that wards off disease by acting on the vital force within the human body.

Q. So, do you mean to say that drinking urine is almost akin to one taking vitamin pills?

A. Drinking urine would mean that the body is constantly being supplied with nutrients (enzymes, hormones, salts, vitamins, natural steroids, trace minerals etc), which the body may lack at times owing to metabolic dysfunction or disease. The body would re-absorb what is lacking and shed the excess off again. The outflow and inflow of urine thus assures good health in a continuous manner. It is much, much more powerful than swallowing artificial vitamin pills - some of which are not body friendly and some subject to malabsorption (with much of the money going waste via the commode!) http://www.lankaeverything.com/go/front/index.htm?bypass=19

And there is a long history of it's use, check the links I posted earlier. Hope this clears things up for you. Free tonic and treatment!

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I'm posting the interview in it's entirety because it's easier to read here than on the website where the font is a little small and dull.
UROPATHY BOLDY CHALLENGES
ANY SCIENTIST TO PROVE IT WRONG !
by Dr. Tilak S. Fernando

Dr. Mass R. Usuf of Sri Lanka is the Senior Vice President of the National Association of Homoeopaths & Affiliates (NAHA) and is the Chief Acupuncturist - Holistic Diagnosis & Healing Centre - Pita Kotte, Sri Lanka. He is a Doctor of Philosophy (Thesis - Palm Diagnosis) and holds a Doctorate in Acupuncture. Besides, he is qualified in Acupressure, Naturopathy and Magnet Therapy. He also practices Palm Diagnosis. Dr. Usuf is a Member of the Foundation for Homoeopathy (Medicina Alternativa) and of the International Association of Colour (UK). He is a practicing naturopath embracing many therapeutic systems and offering a combined restorative approach to any ailment. Dr. Mass R. Usuf can be contacted at: costrans@zeylan.net


"In recent times with beneficial properties of urine being discovered by modern day biochemists, with graduated overt practice in the face of changing society where stigma was not that serious, with International conferences being held on uropathy the practice of uropathy became a thing to be talked about. Uropathy boldy challenges any scientist to prove it wrong! Unfortunately science does not still possess tools to understand the incomprehensible, which is born of ancient instinctive wisdom............which is understood in tits and bits over the centuries by tottering modern day science"

Dr. Mass R. Usuf comes out with some unbelievable yet impressive arguments, which go back to many Centuries to confirm that urine in fact is the best medicine for the human body to restore and maintain health. Dr. Tilak S. Fernando PhD, who is currently conducting a series of medical interviews discussed this topic at length.

Q. The moment you suggest drinking urine, any human being's reaction would be one of sheer astonishment.............maybe tinged with some revulsion! How do you then make people to accept what you say, leave alone persuading him or her to drink urine - for better health?

A. Yes, most do get astonished and some show revulsion too at the notion. But once I start speaking seriously about uropathy most become ardent listeners and most of the most start practicing it (the fortunates I would call them!!). Astonishment and revulsion recedes and understanding and commitment pervades.

This is a very serious subject...........if I am to quote: In the Damar Tantra (an ancient Sanskrit work), Lord Shiva expounds to His Divine Consort, Goddess Parvati, the benefits of urine therapy in 107 shlokas. Moreover, The Christian Old Testament says: 'Drink waters out of thine own cistern' (Proverb 5-15). Prophet Mohamed had ordered some people of the tribe of Ukl and Uraynah to drink the urine of camels when they fell sick (Medicine of the Prophet - page 55). The great Tibetan yogi Milarepa has stated the benefits of urine when monks perform exacting penances (G.C.C. Chang : Milarepa in Ragma, Boulder & London 1977). Our own Vedamahaththayas (native doctors ) made use of urine in many forms to treat various ailments.
In some matters of medicine (like in some matters of other incomprehensible things) the wisdom of the ancients born of the verities of metaphysics shouldn't be ignored, as man's scientific knowledge is still learning to crawl!!

Q. If you were to talk about modern times, how would you go about it?

A. To come to modern times, the common drug Premarin has a urine component as its primary base. Urokinase and other clot busters given in a cardiac emergency again have a urine component as its primary base. The many fertility drugs that adorn pharmacy shelves today are made out of an extract of pregnant mare's urine ........... and many more the pharmaceutical giants would not want to reveal!! In fact, the base of many perfumery products are based on urine extracts!!
Ladies ............ how about your moisturiser cream tomorrow morning when you set out to work??

Q. Can you think of any specific modern scientists as living examples to substantiate this theory?

A. Dr. Morris Mezel, Chief Surgeon of Edgewater Hospital, Chicago, USA states that there is no substance more efficacious than urokinase (urine extract) to treat heart disease. Dr Maganbhai Salaria of Ahmedabad injects patients with their own urine when preparing them for various surgeries. He says, it prevents post-surgical complications and maintains the efficiency of the heart. Dr Hamao, Professor, Medical University of Kyoto, Japan has isolated a substance from human urine, which is beneficial in the treatment of cancer (The Illustrated Weekly of India, August 26, 1973). Nobel Laureate Albert Sczent Georgyi has had considerable success with methyl glyoxal (a urine extract) in the treatment of cancer. The English treatise on therapeutics, 'Salmon's English Physician', 1695, talks of the prophylactic and healing properties of urine.

Q. I have heard about a full body massage with urine and of urine fasting. Could you elaborate?

A. Urine fasting, urine drinking and urine body massage is the first line of attack suggested by uropaths to rid the body of cancer ............ with a high degree of efficacy.

For body massage stale urine of about 4 days old is used. The whole body is massaged well and left to dry for some time. It is then washed off using NO soap. It is an ideal complementary treatment for cancer patients and for any chronic, life threatening condition.

Drinking only urine (sometimes complemented with water) as the only 'beverage' while fasting for a day or two every month or so (first consult a uropath for directions) is a superlative treatment for continued general health.

But cancer patients can benefit greatly by fasting from three to 14 days or even more depending on the degree of the disease. A few bouts of urine fasting would give astounding results in cancer patients. There are records of cancer patients under urine therapy registering a total regression of the cancer.

Q. I guess many would like to think that urine being a waste product it could be poisonous to the human body contrary to what you say!

A. I am sorry to disagree with you here - urine is the purest liquid in the world, purer even than distilled water.............it is sterile. Put it under the microscope and you will see. In fact urine has very strong detoxifying properties that leaches the poisons in you when drunk regularly..............so it can no way be poisonous to you. Moreover, you cannot have a poisonous substance in the kidneys, urethras and urinary bladder.................you will fall sick!!

Urine per se does not have pathogens but passing or stored urine (in the urinary tract/urinary bladder) can be contaminated with bacteria when the urinary system is infected - like blood would (with blood being pure otherwise) in a case of septicaemia. If it is something dirty and harmful one will not be able to store it within one's body!! Urine is only excess body fluid, a filtrate of blood chockfull of pre-digested super nutrients. You cannot filter rubbish from pure blood!

Q. So what are the beneficial compounds that have been discovered to boost one's health or to act as a preventative agent against disease?

A. Hundreds of substances beneficial to human health have been identified in urine with more and more being discovered and many more yet to be known to science. To call it a 'waste product' is not semantically correct. It is excess water that is pumped out to maintain body fluid balance and with it many nutrients in a potentised form are pumped out. It is this potentised nature of urine that exerts a positive influence upon the physiology. In homoeopathy, drugs are potentised and it is this potentised effect that wards off disease by acting on the vital force within the human body.

Q. So, do you mean to say that drinking urine is almost akin to one taking vitamin pills?

A. Drinking urine would mean that the body is constantly being supplied with nutrients (enzymes, hormones, salts, vitamins, natural steroids, trace minerals etc), which the body may lack at times owing to metabolic dysfunction or disease. The body would re-absorb what is lacking and shed the excess off again. The outflow and inflow of urine thus assures good health in a continuous manner. It is much, much more powerful than swallowing artificial vitamin pills - some of which are not body friendly and some subject to malabsorption (with much of the money going waste via the commode!)

Q. I can guarantee that 99% of the people will entertain the idea of drinking urine with repugnance................. a waste product as they would see it. How can any one even think of attempting to drink urine when such feelings dominate one's mind?

A. You will be surprised to know that approximately 70% of my patients practice uropathy. 99% repugnance gets converted to 70% compliance!! How? Two things. One is the realisation by them that uropathy with a hallowed tradition has more than mere ingrained verities. Second the patient wants relief - at any cost - even at the cost of shedding his or her prejudices. You either got to be a suffering patient with a disabling, painful or life threatening condition or an unprejudiced person to understand that!!

Q. Do you drink urine as a health drink?

A. Yes. Not only me, but my wife and my kids including my nine year old boy.

Q. What does it taste like?

A. Like water ........... or less than water...........it's difficult to describe the taste. You got to drink it and see for yourself. Urine naturally has a salty taste and its vapour once it oxides with air can be obnoxious. But after only a few days of drinking urine the smell and the taste disappear. This is the amazing thing about urine. It happens ONLY to those who practice uropathy. Their urine becomes totally colourless and free of smell and taste.

Q. What advise would you give to someone who has a belly full of beer in relation to drinking one's own urine.

A. The product called urine should ideally be the product of body friendly intakes. I would not consider beer as a body friendly intake. Traditionally, a person practicing uropathy is supposed to keep off spirits and tobacco and be more of a vegetarian than a 'meatarian'. Anyway, in my opinion even those not adhering to traditional requirements can practice uropathy - so, beer drinkers can drink urine and derive benefits.

Q. When I think of it, I remember when I was a kid people used to say to apply urine for any kind of local burn!

A. You would find people telling you so a generation and a half back and predominantly so in the eastern countries. Things have changed now. Wisdom by instinct has been replaced by commercialised modern medicare worshipped by the new generation.

The Vedamahaththayas (native Ayurvedic practitioners of Sri Lanka) of yore took with them the many secrets of uropathy when the commercialised modern medicare overwhelmed them.

Coming to your point - urine is not only for local burns of a superficial nature but even for serious third degree burns all over the body. It retards harmful microbial activity by providing a sterile surface burn area against infection and helps in healthy tissue proliferation. It is ideal for burns...........of any degree!

Q. Under what circumstances should one not practice uropathy?

A. One must not drink urine if one's blood glucose level is above normal (ie: sugar in the urine). One may refrain from drinking urine if one is having a urine infection (although some proponents maintain it is okay - and I do agree with them). One must avoid drinking urine late in the night. One must avoid the first stream of the morning urine (some uropaths do). Women must not drink urine either when they are menstruating or having profuse leucorrhoea or if they think they are liable to contaminate the urine by their menstruum or the vaginal discharge or if they are having an overt persistent vaginal infection (candidiasis for eg.) or if they secrete pus from the urethra owing to some infection (but some proponents do).

Q. What are the Do's then in your theory?

A. Take the morning urine first - but midstream onwards. Drink as much urine as possible during the day - the more, the merrier - any stream! Take urine in a sterile container (as urine is sterile and pure and should not be contaminated).

A urine mouthwash by gargling the urine in the mouth before you swallow it is extremely good for disorders like gingivitis, bleeding gums, receding gums, shaky teeth, pyorrhoea, apthous stomatitis etc. Brushing your teeth with urine is a good thing too. Put a few drops of urine in the ear in case of ear disorders. Put a few drops of urine in the nasal passage (nose) to clear the passage. A few drops in the eyes when having kerato conjunctivitis works wonders (even for other eye disorders).

A urine application all over the body as often as you can (no massage - as massage is only with stale urine) will enrich your skin and give you a youthful look. Simply apply urine all over the body and let it dry for about 10 minutes before washing - use no soap. Stale urine applied to the head is good for hair problems.

As a first aid for any type of wounds - lacerations, incised, superficial skin damage etc it is incomparable. Dip a piece of cotton in urine and squeeze some drops over the wound thrice a day. Keep it covered lightly if it is extensive and deep. In no time the wound would heal sans complications. It has powerful anti-bacterial properties, keeps the wound sterile and promotes healing........if it is a 'waste' a 'poison' how can it heal? All patients in my clinic apply urine for wounds and are astounded by its fast action.

Q. It sounds like a 'kokatath thailaye' (drug for anything!) to put it very bluntly!

A. You can say it again and a million times more! It IS the wonder drug bordering on the panacea for all ailments!!

Q. If this is such a miracle medicinal drink and helps people in maintaining their health in the pink why hasn't it caught up with masses at large throughout the world? Surely people will not want to go to doctors and undergo surgeries etc., if they can look after their health by themselves, by just drinking urine.

A. You yourself said that people look at it with repugnance and revulsion......that people look at it as some poisonous waste matter. In that case how can it ever be appealing to people? Nobody would want to drink it and naturally it has not 'caught up'. It is the people who should be blamed for their ignorant attitude and not urine with its wonderful properties!!

Also, uropathy since its inception has been cloaked with a holistic mantle and acquired a spiritual essence with mostly yogis and ayurvedic practitioners practicing it. Another reason for its sluggish perpetuation.

Even centuries back people must have looked at urine as something very obnoxious and would look at a man drinking it with revulsion. A man can get easily ostracised for drinking urine. So people who did drink urine for health benefits over the centuries did it surreptitiously. Yet another reason why it was not overtly popular but covertly practiced.

In recent times however with beneficial properties of urine being discovered by modern day biochemists, with graduated overt practice in the face of changing society where stigma was not that serious, with international conferences being held on uropathy the practice of uropathy became a thing to be talked about. Look at us now - we are here - you and I - talking about it - and others are reading this!! No fear of stigma, no covertness.

Moreover, people must be educated. The time has dawned with this age of the Internet and mass communication where awareness can be disseminated to a greater population at a faster pace than some generations back when such awareness was possible only among a few practicing uropaths living in disparate small illiterate communities. This way uropathy can be made more popular and people will 'catch up'. Centuries of revulsion may take a century for acceptance - let's start now!

Q. How many glasses or pints a day would you recommend one to experiment with?

A. It depends on the attitude of the person............ranging from a tablespoon to a full glass. Some dilute it with water the first few times. One can drink as much as he or she wants...........even one glass a day is beneficial.

Q. If I am correct, the former Indian Prime Minister Morarji Desai was a firm believer in drinking his own urine. Do you know of any other prominent personalities or world leaders who have adopted this theory and set themselves as living examples of exemplary health?

A. Take my clinic as an example. I told you about 70% of my patients practice uropathy. But 99% of them do not want to be known as uropathy practitioners as they feel that the other person wouldn't understand. And so it is the case with many people - normal people or those well known - where they wish to keep their practice of uroprathy a secret. That does not in any way demean the physiological verities behind uropathy but they keep prominent personalities practicing uropathy well concealed.

Q. Can anyone drink anyone's urine?

A. Whether you drink water from your tap or from the neighbour's it does not matter - the water is the same! If a person is diabetic he or she can drink the urine of the spouse or of a child...........or of a neighbour's! In India there are people drinking cow's urine.............and as I said before the Holy Prophet Mohamed ordered some people of the tribe of Ukl and Uraynah to drink the urine of camels when they fell sick. So I see nothing wrong for man to drink another man's urine!!

Q. Has any adverse reports subsequent to urine drinking been reported?

A. No. For the last 10,000 years or so urine drinking has been practiced and there is no ancient or modern document to show that urine drinking or uropathy in toto is harmful............only testimonies as to its efficacy are abundant........even from cancer patients who were sentenced to death by the modern orthodox system!!
If a therapeutic system is harmful even in the least of ways surely there will be reports about such harm over a period of ten thousand years!! Even modern day investigations have not uttered a 'factual' sound where uropathy is concerned.

Every new fangled therapy or old fangled therapy has been cut and chopped and its innate essence questioned - NOT urine therapy with 'cogent' facts!!

Uropathy boldy challenges any scientist to prove it wrong! Unfortunately science does not still possess tools to understand the incomprehensible, which is born of ancient instinctive wisdom............which is understood in tits and bits over the centuries by tottering modern day science.
http://www.lankaeverything.com/go/front/index.htm?bypass=19

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[ugizz]

Holy shit! i just tried it! my urine tastes better than tap watter!!

i mean WAAAY BETTER:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[bigus_dickus]

Holy shit! i just tried it! my urine tastes better than tap watter!!

i mean WAAAY BETTER:eek::eek::eek::eek:

holy pee! :D

[ugizz]

holy pee! :D

I AGREE!

HOLY PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! :D

[ho1ogram]

Free e-book. Shivambu Gita by Dr. G.K. Thakkar
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/shivambu.pdf
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/ho1ogram/b2c9b340dca04c2617889010_AA240_.L.jpg
The forward by Dr. B.V. Khare includes description of treating malignant tumours with UT.

UROTHERAPY FOR PATIENTS WITH CANCER
Joseph Eldor, MD
Cancer cells release various antigens, some of which appear
in the urine. Oral auto-urotherapy is suggested as a new
treatment modality for cancer patients. It will provide the
intestinal lymphatic system the many tumor antigens against
which antibodies may be produced. These antibodies may be
transpierced through the blood stream and attack the tumor
and its cells.

Urotherapy is suggested as a new kind of immunotherapy for
cancer patients. Unlike the clonal immunotherapy the urine
of the cancer patients contain the many tumor antigens which
constitute the tumor. Oral auto-urotherapy will provide the
intestinal lymphatic system the tumor antigens against which
they may produce antibodies due to non-self recognition.
These antibodies may be transpierced through the blood
stream and attack the tumor and its cells.
http://www.csen.com/theory/cancer.htm

Dr. Evagelos Danopouolos of Greece reported that urea found in urine has anti-cancerous properties. The urea seems to disrupt the ability of cancer cells to group together and kills them by upsetting some of their normal metabolic activities. Urine therapy has been used to treat cancers of the skin, cervix, lungs, eyes, breast, and liver. http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Resort/1187/urinetherapy.htm


Medical testimonials:

- Hive Free! Testimonial from Lou Majors, Florida August 7, 2005

- Healing diabetes, improving blood circulation, and much more with urine therapy (UT) A testimonial from Rayna Knighton in New Zealand - September 1999

- Candida and other health problems - Sylvie naturinologie.info/

- Healing Second Degree Burn With Aged Urine
A testimonial from Shirley Robinson, Hollywood, CA - May 2000

- Subject: Urine Universal Remedy and migraine
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 From: Gina Tyler

- URINE THERAPY CURED PNEUMONIA BACK PAIN and MORE. November 2003
The full stories can be read here:
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine_testimonials.htm

Good for animals too (from link above):
We are firm believers in urine therapy as we have seen amazing results in all areas...for example, our greyhound dogs each had different kind of wounds suffered from falling, barb wire at the dog park, etc. ...

....put urine drops in her eyes often and now her eyes are clearing from a muddy, unclear, blurry look to a clear blue...she is now seeing everything once more. ...

We have been amazed at her progress and how she is a normal little kitty now. One of the other little boy kitties wasn't doing very well either as he was small like her...I felt through my intuition to move him up with her and it really helped both of them. The rest of the litter are bigger and doing well. One of the bigger ones had a stuffed nose today and runny eyes. I again used urine (either my husband's or mine or a combination of both) and within minutes he was breathing easily and his eyes cleared up. We continue to give them all urotherapy everyday and all are in vibrant health now.

I am very interested in the Transfer Factor as we do not plan on having any of our animals vaccinated anymore or treated with worming medicine...we prefer to find a natural product that does it for them. My husband has done extensive research into urine therapy and found that it is effective in regards to rabies.


Index of articles and testimonials on the web including an A- Z listing of medical conditions treated with Shivambu/Urine Therapy. http://naturinologie.info/english.html

[ho1ogram]

Holy shit! i just tried it! my urine tastes better than tap watter!!

i mean WAAAY BETTER:eek::eek::eek::eek:
And no added flouride... :D

[karma19]

I would love try it to see if it tastes good but I just cant bring myself to do it. Is it better if you hold your nose? one two three lol

[ho1ogram]

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G'day karma19, I can testify that if you hold your nose it definitely has no taste. You can always start off with a small amount...
Drinking:
Morning urine is best. Take the middle stream. You can start with a few drops, building up to one glass a day. Good as a tonic, as a preventive and in minor illnesses.
http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/traditional-therapies/urine-therapy.asp

If you have a chronic health problem or your diet isn't very good it may be best to start with small amounts as advised in this article. (But I have read of people who jump in at the deep end with no problems... there is a lot of info. out there and everything I have read agrees it is safe and the only possible side effects are from the body detoxifying too quickly if one is particularly ill.)
How to Use Urine

There are various ways to use urine but generally it is advisable to start with small amounts. This is not only to get accustomed to the taste of it, but also to slow down any healing reactions. These occur commonly with methods that genuinely improve our health.

Reactions may manifest as diarrhoea, vomiting, nausea, skin problems or a temporary flare-up of old health problems prior to their final elimination.

Start with a few drops or a teaspoonful. These may be swallowed immediately and you may wash it down with some water or juice or eat a piece of fruit. However, with allergies and immune disorders it is more effective to leave the diluted urine under the tongue for a few minutes.

An allergic reaction can best be stopped or neutralised by collecting the urine when the symptoms are worst, however in practice you try to use it as soon as you notice the first symptoms.

Some researchers suggest that the proper dose can be found by slowly putting single drops under the tongue until the taste and temperature of a drop can no longer be distinguished. This is then the neutralising dose. Each subsequent day you may double the previous dose or the number of times you take them per day until you reach your target amount or the dose that you are comfortable with.http://www.health-science-spirit.com/urine.html
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BOOKS: List of 38 books about Urine Therapy/Shivambu
http://naturinologie.info/ressources_amazon_en.htm
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[LasseMaja]

My friend had problem with eczem in the hollow of his knees and arms. He had tried different type of lotions prescribed by doctors but nothing helped.

I told him about this therapy and he rubbed in his urine on the affected area everyday in the morning for 15 minutes and then washed it.

His eczem was gone in two weeks.


(and btw, I started a thread about this a few weeks ago, you may use the search function ;))

[exclamatio]

ive used urine therapy quite a bit over the past few years with fantastic results

used it on throat infections, i had a really fucking bad infection when i was in thailand a few years back, i couldnt eat or drink, antibiotics didnt seem to be doing anything, a day or 2 drinking tiny amounts of my own wee and i was right as rain

used it on sunburn which i also picked up in thailand haha

ive used it on athletes foot and on fungal nails, fast and effective!

the 1st time i used it was when i had pretty bad impetigo, again i wasn't responding at all to antibiotics, my own urine was a totally different story, literally days and i was fine again

now and again if i get a sore throat or whatever if im in the mood ill give it a go but i hate the taste, some poeple dont mind it but i still gag :P

[abrilliantone]

I guess it's still my some what program mind to think that drinking pee sounds so nasty.:p But my wife told me how when she was younger and use to get ear infections. Her grandma would tell her to pee on her finger and let it run into her ear. A couple of days later she said it would be gone. I also remember watching this old kung fu flick. Where as this man had asthma and when he would have a attack he would drink the pee from a young boy to stop his weezing. But now I have a question if you can drink your pee for healing purposes what about your stools could you eat that and get the same results or better?:confused: I doubt many people would want to try it out and see.:D

[chris]

I guess it's still my some what program mind to think that drinking pee sounds so nasty.:p But my wife told me how when she was younger and use to get ear infections. Her grandma would tell her to pee on her finger and let it run into her ear. A couple of days later she said it would be gone. I also remember watching this old kung fu flick. Where as this man had asthma and when he would have a attack he would drink the pee from a young boy to stop his weezing. But now I have a question if you can drink your pee for healing purposes what about your stools could you eat that and get the same results or better?:confused: I doubt many people would want to try it out and see.:D

You've got to go with the science, just because it turns out that drinking your own piss is good for you, you take that far-out idea and think that eating shit is good for you. It's very bad for you. The reason why your penis is down there is because the kidneys filter better under a bit of weight (imagine it trying to filter on top of your head)...It is also where the female carries her baby so it's placed there.

Urine is very sterile, this is why you make love and piss with your penis, if it was a dirty thing then making babies would be a tough job. It's sterile.

I've been drinking my piss on and off for about 2 years now and it's extremely good for you.

I think the main benefit I notice more than any other is that I invoke spirits much better while on urine. I also have many dreams about invoking gods and things while practicing urine therapy. At one point I drank about 80% of it but it was very hard to keep up as I needed the toilet so often. Some say that you shouldn't drink it after a certain time but Hypocrites said that this is the best time because the stress hormones produced during the day when reingested are dealt with a second time, helping you learn.

I find one of the greatest benefits to urine therapy is that you can tell when you are detoxing...If your eating good diet (but not perfect) you might not know if you are detoxing but with Urine therapy you will get a very distinct taste of Keytones which taste chemically (very easy to spot). So this way you can eat a good diet and mildly detox without either going way overboard and causing to severe detox symptoms or by not eating well enough to have effect.

As for psoriasis, having had psoriasis for over 11 years I tell you that it needs supplementation (i.e. fasting). Urine therapy may have detoxification properties but not on the level able to deal with psoriasis. Technically it can help as urine is also a filtered product from a toxic body which contains its homeopathic trace and by reintroducing this into your body, you can revitalise the blind immune system to firstly recognise the trace toxin introduced into your body and then recognise the toxins that are all around it causing psoriasis. But in my research the only thing that really heals psoriasis is a perfect diet and fasting.

[astraltraveller]

ho1ogram

you realy have been a massive help on this thread , thanks very much and its great to see other people comming forward with thier testamonies , i realy wasnt expecting it and thought i was the nly secret lemonade drnker (r whites)(r white) i mean piss drinker lol although im not going to resume doing it yet but i am gonna try sniffing some up my snout to cleart my sinus .

as for eating poop yes its a bad idea but if you have trouble sleeping a guess you could pop a turd in each ear but if you forgot to take em out and was on the tube to work people might shout oy shit ears and you wouldnt even know lol .

chris

good info , i didnt know pee could put you more in touch with spirit but it sure makes good sense because the more pure you are the better and ee purifies the body better than anything . i read one of your posts about being self sufficient living off the fat of the land . you sertainly have got the rite idea and you know your carrying the worlds best medicine . my chinese bud says white eyebrow style kung fu is lethal but i dunno about that because he also told me years ago the chinese could leap as high as a house . so i said why dont they do it today then and he just said they dont practice hard enough anymore lol . the white eyebrow movies are great when the master sends his eyebrows to attack people :D .

anyay great info guys thanks a lot , i have learned some cool stuff .

[chris]

chris

good info , i didnt know pee could put you more in touch with spirit but it sure makes good sense because the more pure you are the better and ee purifies the body better than anything . i read one of your posts about being self sufficient living off the fat of the land . you sertainly have got the rite idea and you know your carrying the worlds best medicine . my chinese bud says white eyebrow style kung fu is lethal but i dunno about that because he also told me years ago the chinese could leap as high as a house . so i said why dont they do it today then and he just said they dont practice hard enough anymore lol . the white eyebrow movies are great when the master sends his eyebrows to attack people :D .

anyay great info guys thanks a lot , i have learned some cool stuff .

Urine has all the brain chemicals inside of it as well so I guess this is why it is so good for the mind and spirit.

95% of all vitamins are unknown, strange really but my friend laid a good hypothosis out and said that this was probably due to them releasing this knowledge bit by bit so they could make many fads and make more money off it. For instance they made a big deal out of omega 3 and then a few years later, 6 and then 9...Should be more to come when they get enough use out of all those supplements.

As for the taoist kung fu magicians, it is certainly possible although it sounds like your friend would believe in almost anything. Tao philosophy came from Alchemy and Egypt and so if a person was extremely good at the hidden arts then anything would be possible, although I doubt they would use it to kick peasants asses like they do on those old kung fu movies.

[astraltraveller]

chris

i bet your buddy is correct with his theory , he must be if the knowledge the annunaki had 200.000 years ago was passed on and they had the knowhow on how to create on the genetic level .

i believe we can do much more than we think we can , in kung fu ect you get the feeling that you can do so much more and try harder each time and try being faster ect , its just like you know thiers knowledge that you dont have and need .

[revolutionary_jam]

Wish I had the guts to drink my pee lol

[mountain]

Is this why we are pissing our vitamins in toilets and giving it away for free??
Should we go back to chamber pots??

[chris]

Is this why we are pissing our vitamins in toilets and giving it away for free??
Should we go back to chamber pots??

Keep pissing in public toilets for the beauty industry to collect and sell it off at crazy prices. Those people have families to feed.

[ho1ogram]

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(and btw, I started a thread about this a few weeks ago, you may use the search function ;)) G'day dumle, I posted a link to that thread in post number 10.

ho1ogram

you realy have been a massive help on this thread , thanks very much and its great to see other people comming forward with thier testamonies , i realy wasnt expecting it and thought i was the nly secret lemonade drnker (r whites)(r white) i mean piss drinker lol although im not going to resume doing it yet but i am gonna try sniffing some up my snout to cleart my sinus .
No worries, thanks for starting the thread. It makes sense to me that we would be able to provide ourselves with our own medicine/tonic. We often think and are often told that life is complicated and difficult when the reality is that it is as simple as trusting oneself and knowing oneself.

It is a holographic universe and we are aspects of Infinite Love experiencing itself.

Here is an article on self healing. To me it ties into the way in which urine therapy works... the soul, through the mind-body, reading it's own blueprint and reproducing itself in a new image:
What is the true nature of reality? The basics of quantum healing.
http://www.ascension-research.org/reality.html

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[adimon]

urine therapy is the consumption of your own wee wee . sounds disgusting doesnt is especialy when we have been told that body toxins are excreeted via urine . well its bullshit . the urine is known to science as the most perfect and most advanced medicine known to humankind . the urine is not a waist product , it is infact food wich has been produced by the blood and has every single vitamin and mineral and hormone in it that the body needs and thier are infact so many that science has still not finneshed catalogueing them . your body is a big fractal or series of fractals , a perfect mathmatical equation that is self suffictient providing it is fed and waterd .


So how much slash do you drink each day?

Are you prepared to go on record - kinda like Super Size Me

Maybe you could call it "I Drank Piss For A Month" so you could attract the Channel 5 viewers...

:D

[chris]

So how much slash do you drink each day?

Are you prepared to go on record - kinda like Super Size Me

Maybe you could call it "I Drank Piss For A Month" so you could attract the Channel 5 viewers...

:D

I've drank like 80% of my urine for over a week but I was working and it was very hard going to the toilet every few minutes...

If I was a real hustler I would wait until about 11pm on fridays and saterdays and hustle people to bet like £10 each for me to drink my urine...That could probably get at least £50 per pub and do that four or five times each night at different locations (preferably far away from your residence) then you could make like £400 per week...Easy money, though slightly degrading.

[revolutionary_jam]

according to wiki there is no evidence to support urine therapy but it isn't harmful either... not that wiki is the best source by any means but discuss or go on there and start a neutrality dispute :p

[adimon]

I've drank like 80% of my urine for over a week but I was working and it was very hard going to the toilet every few minutes...

If I was a real hustler I would wait until about 11pm on fridays and saterdays and hustle people to bet like £10 each for me to drink my urine...That could probably get at least £50 per pub and do that four or five times each night at different locations (preferably far away from your residence) then you could make like £400 per week...Easy money, though slightly degrading.

What a curious thought that is. :D

Seriously though, if you think drinking urine isn't harmful, I challenge you to do it every day and see how long before you fall really ill.

Same for those of you that think they can live off light.

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What a curious thought that is. :D

Seriously though, if you think drinking urine isn't harmful, I challenge you to do it every day and see how long before you fall really ill.

Same for those of you that think they can live off light.

What a curious troll you are. :D

Seriously though, where is your evidence that drinking urine is harmful, I challenge you to research the topic every day and see how long before you fuck off back to your lame five questions thread.

Who are those who think they can live off light?

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[adimon]

What a curious troll you are. :D

Seriously though, where is your evidence that drinking urine is harmful, I challenge you to research the topic every day and see how long before you fuck off back to your lame five questions thread.

Who are those who think they can live off light?


You guys don't like people with contrary opinions do you?

Luckily, I don't have the burden of proof on drinking urine. I've done enough research into to know it IS full of toxins. I've also had a blood parasite illness, and I had to have those parasites flushed out of my organs INTO my urine, which I then had to avoid all contact with under totally sterile conditions. When you are 'nil by mouth' before surgery, you only drink water and your urine still contains only harmful chemicals, urea, and bacteria.

There are a whole load of people who think they can live off light. I wouldn't call it a cult, but it's not far off. It's called breatharianism.

The woman who started it was subpoenaed to appear at the inquest of one of her followers who died of malnutrition, despite many opportunities to take help. The leader later admitted to nibbling at crackers, and that she had deceived her followers.

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You guys don't like people with contrary opinions do you?

Luckily, I don't have the burden of proof on drinking urine. I've done enough research into to know it IS full of toxins. I've also had a blood parasite illness, and I had to have those parasites flushed out of my organs INTO my urine, which I then had to avoid all contact with under totally sterile conditions. When you are 'nil by mouth' before surgery, you only drink water and your urine still contains only harmful chemicals, urea, and bacteria.

There are a whole load of people who think they can live off light. I wouldn't call it a cult, but it's not far off. It's called breatharianism.

The woman who started it was subpoenaed to appear at the inquest of one of her followers who died of malnutrition, despite many opportunities to take help. The leader later admitted to nibbling at crackers, and that she had deceived her followers.

It took you three posts to provide your reasons against drinking urine, are you always this slow?

Have you actually read this thread? It has been stated that drinking ones OWN urine MAY not be beneficial under certain circumstances such as if suffering from diabetes, a urine infection, or with blood glucose problems. This is a forum where people post information so it may be READ first and then discussed. Do you always display so much ignorance?

You have also attempted to associate urine therapy with a totally unrelated topic in what appears to be an attempt to ridicule and belittle a thread discussion.

Luckily, I don't have the burden of proof on drinking urine. I've done enough research into to know it IS full of toxins.
Are you going to post your research?

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Transmutation and the healer within

Coen Van der Koon

{An interesting exploration of another more subtle benefit of Urine Therapy}

"It has always been a kind of vocation for me to connect East and West, ancient and modern, spiritual heritage and science. So with urine therapy: it has a rich history, certainly here in the East. It is connected with spiritual practice as well as with modern scientific research. A good example is the research project at the University of Newcastle, England, into the effect of drinking morning urine by Indian yogis on their meditation practice. This paper is meant to make another such a small connection.

Over the years, urine therapy has proved to be an effective tool for healing. Most urine therapists, some of whom have been practicing urine therapy for decades, have never sought an explanation for why it works: their own experiences were sufficient proof. For some time now, however, there has been increasing interest in the search for a scientific explanation. This is because urine therapists believe it is important for urine therapy to be acknowledged as a valid method of treatment: doctors should be well-informed about the effects of this therapy so that as many people as possible can benefit from it. Since members of the medical world demand an explanation, the interest in scientific research has grown.

Another reason for this growing interest is that a number of 'mainstream' doctors have also had positive experiences with urine therapy, which is reason enough for them to investigate how and why it works. This is not a recent development: in the 1930's, for example, the German paediatrician Martin Krebs successfully treated many patients with urine therapy, and subsequently published the results

As a physician, he was convinced that urine therapy was an effective method of treatment, but he also realized that other doctors would not readily accept this fact since it conflicted with the scientific dogma which formed the foundation of their profession.

A good deal of research has already been conducted within the medical world into the composition of urine and its separate components. The researchers Free and Free published a report listing two hundred substances found in urine. They point out that these are only the most significant substances, and that urine probably contains thousands of components.

Several substances found in urine seem to be of value as medication, some of which have already been processed and used as such. The fact that certain individual components of urine are effective does not prove that urine therapy is effective. Conversely, however, it can be assumed that the components which have a particular effect as an individual substance, have the same effect when taken as a component of urine. In certain cases it could be imagined that the combination of these substances with other components of urine reduces or cancels out the effectiveness, but this is not the most obvious conclusion. We can, therefore, reasonably assume that if an individual substance displays a certain characteristic, it will also have this characteristic as a component of urine. The more individually effective substances found in urine, the stronger the argument that urine as a total entity has a therapeutic effect. A condition of this argument is that urine as a total entity does not contain substances with an obviously harmful effect: as yet there is no evidence to suggest that such substances have been found in urine. The small amounts of possibly toxic substances which can be found in urine largely seem to have a positive effect on the immune system. If urine did contain extremely harmful substances, it would be difficult to explain how many people (myself included) who drink their own urine every day for years could still be in exceptionally good health. So research has not yet been conducted on urine as a total entity which can be therapeutically applied. Still unanswered are questions regarding how and why urine therapy works, since urine is used here as a total entity.

A number of hypotheses have, however, been suggested which can serve as the basis for further scientific research. One of those hypotheses I would like to propose here. This hypothesis deals with the immunological effect of urine therapy and its deeper energetical dynamics. It deals with the so called 'healer within'. Urine therapy has often been associated with spiritual practice which might make it seem a bit magic. But, as science is discovering today, ancient spiritual ideas come very close to today's most recent discoveries in the field of quantum mechanics and vibrational healing methods.

But back to the basics: Urine therapy (using self-produced urine) can be considered to be an extension of the methods of Jenner and Pasteur.

An important task of the immune system is to rid the human body of diseased or unusable substances that have developed during the course of an illness. When these substances reach healthy tissue, the serum or blood becomes stronger, the activity of leukocytes (white blood cells) increases, and the patient probably recovers. This phenomenon is known as auto-inoculation or self-vaccination and can be seen as mother nature's method of healing an illness without external intervention. Urine therapy can be seen as a form of self-vaccination: certain bodily substances which have been removed from the body, some of which may have been produced as a result of illness, are re-introduced into the body in small amounts. These substances are re-absorbed into the blood through either the intestines or the skin. According to this hypothesis, the immune system is then given the chance to react appropriately. The doctors Remington, Merler and Uhr have demonstrated that a particular part of urine-protein is able to eliminate certain pathogens.

This discovery supports the assumption that urine therapy can be used to treat or prevent certain illnesses. In the early nineteenth century, Dr. Charles Duncan conducted research into therapies with self-produced substances, including urine therapy.

He demonstrated that patients suffering from gonorrhoeic urethritis (infection of the urinary tube as a result of the venereal disease gonorrhoea) produce their own medication in the form of their own discharge. Auto-therapy was applied here by placing a drop of a patient's discharge directly on the tongue, in order to stimulate the body's natural powers. This method had a strong healing effect at every stage of the illness: if applied at an early stage, it could cause the gonorrhoea to disappear. Auto-therapy is based on the principle that the body can use all fresh, self-produced, unaltered diseased tissue substances which originate from the micro-organisms causing the illness. Seen in this light, patients have their own medication in exactly the form constructed by nature to heal their condition. The results of Dr. William D. Linscott's research suggest that auto-therapy strengthens and stimulates the immune system, in particular with regard to the T-cells. The T-cell population of several patients who initially displayed a low T-cell count increased after treatment with urine therapy.

The Transmutation theory

Most of what has been said here will be valid from a strictly mechanistic point of view. The transmutation theory, though, needs a new, holistic paradigm which is based more on the dynamics of energies.

In recent scientific research, a shift is visible from reductionism to holism. It is beyond the scope of this paper to go into this matter. I nevertheless want to take the new paradigm fully into account here in trying to find explanations for the effectiveness of urine therapy. Urine can be considered to contain an exact holographic picture of the body fluids and tissues. The biofeedback of this holographic information by re-ingesting the urine may well inform the energy system in a way which helps restoring a disturbed balance. The medical doctor and urine therapist Abele cautiously discusses the possible effect of urine as holographic feedback: "The question rises as to whether urine could possibly be considered to be a sort of liquid-hologram. Once the body has been made conscious of urine in an unconventional way (such as it being reintroduced into the body by intramuscular injection) the whole organism evaluates it and subsequently updates its own regulating mechanisms (at least in specific cases)."

The theory of transmutation implies that the body is capable, through energetic exchange within the body itself, to transmute certain substances or molecules into other ones. 'Short-circuiting' the system by ingesting one's own secreted body fluids might stimulate the transmutational forces within and challenge the body to transform unusable substances into usable ones without being constantly disturbed by new external input. It could possibly go as deep as to restructure disturbed DNA. This would specifically apply to fasting on urine.

An important aspect here is the theory of structured water. The body consists for the biggest part of water and so does urine. Not all water is the same though. The molecular structure of water can be less or more organized and in the latter case one speaks of structured water. The more it is organized, the better all kind of enzymatic processes can do their job. These enzymatic processes, in their turn, are responsible and necessary for the digestion, absorption and transmutation of all nutrients.

It is scientifically proven how water in biological systems becomes more organized. Water also becomes more organized through exposure to sunlight and through close contact with crystals. The body is both a receptor of sunlight and it contains a high amount of solid and liquid crystalline-like substances. Also body fluids themselves form fluid crystals.

Urine is thus a crystalline-like substance containing a high amount of structured water. This structured water, when taken in again, promotes better enzymatic functioning and it has a higher solubility for minerals. A higher amount of structured water in the body system is correlated with better health and more energy.

The fact that urine is a liquid crystal substance, particularly because of the various salts in it, implies that it contains crystalline vibrations completely in tune with the vibrational condition of the body. Re-ingestion might give the body valuable vibrational information needed for two things. Healthy vibrations will strengthen the already existing, healthy body resonance. 'Diseased' or stress-vibrations will counteract any unhealthy resonance in the body. It is known that disturbing sounds of any sort can be counteracted best by confronting it with the same sounds. The vibratory patterns of the body, both in the bones (solid crystals) and in the tissues and fluids (liquid crystals), play an important role in the process of transmutation. The resonance field of a crystal can make a protein, for example, change its form into one that is more useful for the body, or easier adaptable by it.

Seeing urine as a liquid crystalline like substance containing a high amount of structured water may help understanding its healing qualities on the more subtle levels.

This is just one little step in trying to explain the energetical effect of urine therapy on the human organism. This way of thinking should be considered as a kind of scientific, modern 'alchemy'.

There is nothing wrong or scary about this terminology and the way of thinking that goes with it. It is nothing new and at the same time highly modern. It provides a chance to scientifically explain urine therapy in its fullest potential, while at the same time taking into account its rich, spiritually associated, history.

Urine therapy confronts us with a very concrete 'healer within' which works both on a mechanistic and on an energetic level. The latter implies that urine, as a holographic substance, can affect all levels of being, from the physical, through the electromagnetical fields of the emotions and the mind, up to the subtler genetic vibrational information of the soul. In this sense urine therapy can be verily seen as one of the divine manifestations of cosmic intelligence.

Thus the ancient name Shivambu Kalpa, a name and a therapy to be treated with appropriate respect.
http://www.lightbalance.com/articles/urine05.htm

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G'day Chris and other urine drinkers,
I know the morning urine is best but some people say that the first stream should be avoided and others say it is okay. What are your thoughts on this and do you drink the first stream of the morning?

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[lucky884]

But now I have a question if you can drink your pee for healing purposes what about your stools could you eat that and get the same results or better?:confused: I doubt many people would want to try it out and see.:D

I would say you can eat your stools (indirectly of course - just compost it and stick it on your vegetable patch!:)). See http://www.jenkinspublishing.com/humanure.html and download the book from the author's website for free.

It is a book that could save the planet.

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G'day Chris and other urine drinkers,
I know the morning urine is best but some people say that the first stream should be avoided and others say it is okay. What are your thoughts on this and do you drink the first stream of the morning?

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I just usually let a slight tinkle out and then start to fill my glass up. It's only to clear the passage which should be sterile anyway. I usually stop about 3/4 of emptying my bladder but it's all subjective, I don't know the real answer.

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Thanks Chris... I started on the first stream but the taste was pretty strong so now I am drinking the second one... it's heaps better... I feel good on it :cool:

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[picha]

does it make your teeth yellow?

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:D :D LMAO Only snow.. man. :D

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[adimon]

Drinking urine dehydrates you. Drink water instead. Your cells contain water, not urea.

[on the road]

If I was a real hustler I would wait until about 11pm on fridays and saterdays and hustle people to bet like £10 each for me to drink my urine...That could probably get at least £50 per pub and do that four or five times each night at different locations (preferably far away from your residence) then you could make like £400 per week...Easy money, though slightly degrading.


LOL quality humour

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[ssyx]

I am going to try this but I have a question first.
Do you drink it as soon as you've pissed?


Cheers.

[adimon]

I am going to try this but I have a question first.
Do you drink it as soon as you've pissed?

Don't try it. It will dehydrate you. Drink water instead. :)

[ssyx]

Don't try it. It will dehydrate you. Drink water instead. :)

Do you speak from experience adimon? If so, can you answer my question please?
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[sunyatta60]

Do you speak from experience adimon? If so, can you answer my question please?

Special forces aka SAS, Pathfinders et al are taught that drinking Urine will save your life in an emergency. I think it all comes down to Mind If you believe something is good for you it will be and conversely if you think something is bad for you it will be. Thoughts rule the world!!! Emerson

[adimon]

Do you speak from experience adimon? If so, can you answer my question please?

Special forces aka SAS, Pathfinders et al are taught that drinking Urine will save your life in an emergency. I think it all comes down to Mind If you believe something is good for you it will be and conversely if you think something is bad for you it will be. Thoughts rule the world!!! Emerson

The two mates I had in 22 weren't taught this. Regardless of whether it's the only liquid on hand, drinking it will hasten your dehydration.

Maybe you were taught it, but everyone I know who fits into the categories you outlined above would never do it.

[chris]

Don't try it. It will dehydrate you. Drink water instead. :)

Where are you getting your info from? Urine is a very good hydrator since it contains salts that hydrates the body and is already fit for your body to absorb.

Drinking urine is a good alternative wherever water is scarce. It not only satisfies the need for liquid, but also actually keeps the body healthy. Some time ago there was an earthquake in Egypt. A survivor was pulled out of the rubble in Cairo after being trapped for three days. The man had kept himself alive by, among other things, drinking his own urine and he was in excellent condition. I heard another story about a man who kept himself alive with his own urine for a week in a collapsed mine. At the time of his rescue, he looked fine and was in extraordinary health. I also recently read an article about an Italian athlete who was lost in the Sahara for ten days. Upon returning to the civilised world, he told how he had drunk his own urine for lack of other liquids. He had kept himself alive by eating desert plants and insects and drinking his own urine. Shipwrecked people can drink their own urinr to surtive, although one should not wait until the body is almost dehydrated before doing so. Drinking urine is also a smart way to survive in situations in which water is unsafe to drink. During earthquakes and floods, water is often infected with pathogens, while urine is always scenic Drinking polluted water can cause serious, often fatal, illnesses Urine is a perfect alternative: if drunk fresh, it quenches thirst without present-ing any danger and is always available - any timer anywhere. Moreover, it will help combat possible diseases. Soldiers have survived long periods in the wil-derness by drinking their own urine, and soldiers in the Foreign Legion are sometimes instructed to rub their own urine into their skin in order to build up resistance to illness. Soldiers sometimes also uri-nate into their shoes before starting on a march, as urine apparently helps prevent blisters. The method of using urine for (new) shoes was often applied in the past and today I sometimes meet people who know how to get their shoes fitting by using this versatile fluid. It is generally not recommended to combine urine therapy with the use of (prescribed) chemical allopathc medicines or recreational drugs. The combination may be dangerous to your health. If you are taking any form of allopathic medicine, begin with the external application (urine massage) until you are free of all medication, if possible.

[sunyatta60]

The two mates I had in 22 weren't taught this. Regardless of whether it's the only liquid on hand, drinking it will hasten your dehydration.

Maybe you were taught it, but everyone I know who fits into the categories you outlined above would never do it.

Whether or not your mates were taught it, if you are out in the middle of nowhere with no water it will save your life and that is the bottom line. I know that some of the guys have done it in hostile situations. I agree with people like Chris drinking your own urine is better for you than taking any pHARMAceutical. Your body has its own pharmacy and used in conjunction with the right foods and herbs Nature gave us all we needed, you don't need to look for help outside of your self.

[justinio]

Well, I always wondered why my pee smelled so strongly of vitamins, so it only took me about three minutes to finally grab my peeing cup, hold my nose, dump, then grab a glass of pop to wash it down, and the only surprise was the warmth (and thank God no gag reflex!) I'm going to try doing this every morning when I first get up. Pee to toilet STOP pee in cup STOP pee to toilet until empty (This feels weird to type, LOL!). I will let you know within a week if my acne or allergies (or anything else) seems improved before I tell my other ill family members/neighbors about this.

[chris]

Well, I always wondered why my pee smelled so strongly of vitamins, so it only took me about three minutes to finally grab my peeing cup, hold my nose, dump, then grab a glass of pop to wash it down, and the only surprise was the warmth (and thank God no gag reflex!) I'm going to try doing this every morning when I first get up. Pee to toilet STOP pee in cup STOP pee to toilet until empty (This feels weird to type, LOL!). I will let you know within a week if my acne or allergies (or anything else) seems improved before I tell my other ill family members/neighbors about this.

lol, it's funny hearing about peoples first times...When I did it, it took me several attempts, I would literally get it a millimeter away from my lips and then stop...Then I started drinking and half way through I realised what I was doing and spat a load out...

I've got a lot better since then:)

[21_12_2012]

I get a nice head-buzz when I do it...does anyone else ?

Been doing 'it' on and off for about 2 years now. Not very often though !

[justinio]

So, any improvements for anyone then?

[jackie73]

look on every face,body cream you have ever used does it say urea in the list of ingredients yes it does wee have been putting piss on ourselfs for years,i have known this for ages if i am right they get the piss from cows.i wonder if many vegatarians knew this,i wonder how many people know this.

[madthumbs]

AFAIK, no one has cured a disease by drinking piss. However, I do believe putting it on our skin can relieve certain conditions such as jellyfish stings, fungal infections, and other superficial problems.

[megafish33]

Piss drinking... another over rated fad IMHO. :) I hope it does what it's supposed to for those doing it... I'd be pretty pissed if I had to drink that without seeing any benefits.

[revolutionary_jam]

i'd like to see a mainstream study proving the benefits before i try it myself hhahahahah

[madthumbs]

Piss drinking... another over rated fad IMHO. :) I hope it does what it's supposed to for those doing it... I'd be pretty pissed if I had to drink that without seeing any benefits.

The flavor changes based on what you eat/ drink and how much excess fluid you're running through your system. I've had it nice fruity / mineral water tasting, and downright horrible (leaves an after taste and film in your mouth *from cayenne pepper). It didn't do a thing for my Lupus symptoms (actually probable made them worse), didn't seem to affect GERD, but I did get extremely sore shoulders for a week (occasional symptom). I tried it because I was ready to die of what I had, and was ready to take desperate measures. I do not recommend drinking it at all.

When it comes to itchy skin (probably due to fungus), topically it works great! Even just before a shower in the tub, it's effective.