Proof that mobiles can be used for tracking

[mada88]

Has anyone seen that vinnie jones RAC (car lol) advert where he breaks down and he doesn't want to say the village he has broke down near "crapstone" lol. So RAC use there mobile tracking to find his car.
I remember when I worked for vodafone and I asked if mobiles could be dangerous to a persons health and could they be tracked lol. We get sucked into thinking phones are a must have and all the new gadgets they have on them.
But once again we are only aloud to have mobile phones because they benifit the elite.

[kblood]

I thought this was something that was quite common knowledge :)

Most mobile phones are able to show what area of your country you are in. Should not be that hard to get this information out of it, remotely. Cannot be sure about that though, but I do find it very likely.

[catfood]

Is there not a website were you can find the location of any Mobil phone.
You give them the number then they send the phone a text message asking if they want you to no were they are and if they reply yes the website gives you a map with there location on it. Of cores the powers that be wudent ask to track phones thay wud just do it!

[catfood]

Go to: www.childlocate.co.uk/


Big brother is tracing you:eek::eek::eek:

[marpat]

Cant see why anybody would be bothered by mobile phone tracking unless they were doing something illegal. I guess there is a privacy issue but in reality how much privacy does a person have? we live in a world where the hi-tech is so abundant that unless you live out in the country you will be on a lot of cameras.

[kblood]

As far as I know, then it is only used against criminals, because it is not easy tracking people. There would of course need to be a reason, whatever the reason is for the tracking of a person.

[lookfar]

I've seen that child tracking site before. I reckon it's all part of the programming to get us used to the fact that we can be located anytime, anywhere - next stage the microchip!!:rolleyes: They play on the fear that you wouldn't want to not ever be able to locate your kids in this day & age, heaven forbid :eek:

Yep, mobiles are definitely a tracking device, even when switched off. If you're really concerned then I believe the only way to escape this is to take the battery out, or better still, not have one at all! Let's also not forget that EVERY piece of electronic communication we have these days is recorded too.

[marpat]

I recall that there are certain codes that communications companies can send to mobile phones to turn them on without the user knowing so that any conversation can be listened to. Cant recall where I saw the info but I think there were several codes they could use for different things.

[serpentoffire]

I thought this was something that was quite common knowledge :)

Most mobile phones are able to show what area of your country you are in. Should not be that hard to get this information out of it, remotely. Cannot be sure about that though, but I do find it very likely.

GSM network is able to locate a mobile phone inside a sector of 4km using the BTS's antenna to define the direction of the source.

UMTS technology is more accurate and it is able to locate a 3G/3,5G mobile phone with the precision of 1 meter, more than GPS.

[steevo]

Go to: www.childlocate.co.uk/


Big brother is tracing you:eek::eek::eek:

That website is sick. I bet child molesters use it.

[hagbard_celine]

As far as I know, then it is only used against criminals, because it is not easy tracking people.

And tracking criminals will be how it is justified to the public. This will allow the police and govt to set up the infrastructure to track everybody else! The same goes for tagging probationers.

I remember seeing a news story of how they caught a murderer by using his mobile phone. I weote to my own network, O2 with my concerns over this but they never replied. Of course it's a good thing when hey catch a violent criminal, but not when their crime is harnessed to the drive to bring in universal tracking. I think this is an insult to the murder victim.

[hagbard_celine]

That website is sick. I bet child molesters use it.

That's another of my fears. I don't see the govt complaining about that eh?;)

[craven dark]

Personally i always forget to pick mine up when i go out, so as far as tptb are concerned i never leave my flat:)

[serpentoffire]

I thought this was something that was quite common knowledge :)

Most mobile phones are able to show what area of your country you are in. Should not be that hard to get this information out of it, remotely. Cannot be sure about that though, but I do find it very likely.

The information of BTS cell is updated at run time on the Home Location Register (HLR) of GSM network. Here is stored the geographical region where the mobile phone is connected with local BTS.

The espionage system read on HLR using X25 network the location of mobile phone and open using the intelligent network SS7 a communication link with the BTS. The BTS send a remote command to switch on the mobile phone. So in this way they know your position and can listen what you say easily.

[hagbard_celine]

Personally i always forget to pick mine up when i go out, so as far as tptb are concerned i never leave my flat:)

:D:D This makes me think of ways to really fuck with their heads!

[serpentoffire]

Milan magistrates have arrested four Telecom Italia employees for alleged illegal espionage activities, bringing a fresh wave of scandal crashing down onto the former national carrier.

The suspects were identified as Fabio Ghioni, the head of information security at Telecom Italia; his assistant, Rocco Lucia; and Guglielmo Sasinini, a former journalist who had been hired by the company to conduct country risk analyses for the Middle East region, according to a 230-page arrest warrant signed by Judge Giuseppe Gennari and widely cited in newspaper reports Friday.

A fourth warrant was served in prison on Giuliano Tavaroli, the former head of security at Telecom Italia, who had already been incarcerated on illegal espionage charges as a result of a separate investigation.

The four men are accused of using Telecom Italia’s resources to spy on Vittorio Colao, the former executive chief executive officer of the Rizzoli Corriere della Sera (RCS) publishing group, and on Massimo Mucchetti, the deputy director of the Corriere della Sera newspaper, as part of an elaborate intelligence operation that has all the hallmarks of a spy thriller, according to wire reports Thursday and newspaper articles Friday.

Ghioni and his colleagues targeted Mucchetti because of his well-informed and critical articles about Telecom Italia and its parent company, Pirelli, according to an article in the Corriere della Sera, which contained excerpts from a book written by Muchetti on the subject.

Ghioni, the head of a 10-member "Tiger Team" set up to run penetration tests against Telecom Italia's information security system, allegedly used a Trojan program, a Telecom Italia server in Rome, and computers in Brazil and Switzerland to break into Colao's company notebook computer and steal sensitive data.

Among the documents allegedly stolen was a draft version of RCS's three-year business plan. Ghioni allegedly exploited the theft by contacting RCS and warning the company that its security measures were inadequate. He told company officials the business plan was floating around on hacker Web sites and offered to take over the RCS security function himself, newspapers reported Friday.

The modus operandi resembled that of his former boss Tavaroli, who allegedly rose to the top of Telecom Italia’s security department after engineering the discovery of an electronic bug planted in the Telecom Italia chief executive officer’s car in 2001. The then head of security at Telecom Italia was fired for the lapse, and Tavaroli was able to take his place.

The suspects allegedly exploited contacts with officers of the French domestic intelligence service Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire (DST) to spy on Pirelli Chairman Marco Tronchetti Provera and his family when they spent time in Paris. They are also accused of spying on Mucchetti’s bank accounts and are even alleged to have hired an attractive young woman to loiter in a bar near the Corriere della Sera in the hopes of picking up the newspaper’s deputy director.

Though himself a victim of the Tiger Team’s espionage, Tronchetti Provera has also been accused by a collaborating witness of having a professional interest in some of the intelligence that was allegedly illegally gathered by Ghioni, Tavaroli, and their associates.

Milan prosecutors say the quantity and quality of the information gathered on behalf of Pirelli/Telecom was completely out of proportion to the real needs of the group.

Tronchetti Provera issued a statement Thursday saying he had never authorized the illegal collection of information on anyone and had “taken absolutely no part in any illegal activity.”

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/19/HNitaliaespionage_1.html

[kblood]

GSM network is able to locate a mobile phone inside a sector of 4km using the BTS's antenna to define the direction of the source.

UMTS technology is more accurate and it is able to locate a 3G/3,5G mobile phone with the precision of 1 meter, more than GPS.

Depends on how many antennas there are near, when using the GSM network. I work at an ISP / Tele company, and they have a department that helps the police track down criminals when needed, which isnt all that often as far as I know. If there are 3 or more masts within range of the phone they want to track, then the accuracy becomes alot more accurate than 4km from what I have heard.

[marc_o]

I knew a person that worked for SOCA in the UK, which is the Serious Organised Crime Something, they can do a whole lot more than trace you trust me.

If your mobile phone is near your computer (I'm not sure how near), even if it is off, it can be used to see exactly what is on your computers' monitor.

I had a drawer full of old phones near my comp so they must have had a perfect picture of mine if they chose to look at it.

Technology in use by intelligence agencies is far beyond what we can comprehend.

[lookfar]

I knew a person that worked for SOCA in the UK, which is the Serious Organised Crime Something, they can do a whole lot more than trace you trust me.

If your mobile phone is near your computer (I'm not sure how near), even if it is off, it can be used to see exactly what is on your computers' monitor.

I had a drawer full of old phones near my comp so they must have had a perfect picture of mine if they chose to look at it.

Technology in use by intelligence agencies is far beyond what we can comprehend.

Shit that's scary!!:eek: But if they're really that interested in whats on your pc then I'm sure they have access to that too if they want.

[marc_o]

Shit that's scary!!:eek: But if they're really that interested in whats on your pc then I'm sure they have access to that too if they want.



A new law has passed in the UK allowing a huge number of authoritative bodies to access our e-mails, phone calls, visited websites etc. The police, hospitals, social services, and a huge number of ridiculously unnecessary organisations can access these details, but this takes time as the police etc have to apply for the information from Internet Service Providers. MI5 and MI6 under new legislation, recieve the details of every visited webpage, e-mail, phone call automatically and directly from the Internet and telephone providers.

Also, the intellegence services have all the best hackers, they can access any civilian PC anytime they want.

The worrying aspect of the phone thing is that they can watch you in real-time. Thats what everything is working toward. Complete real-time surveillence of every aspect of society. The idea of recording behaviour to monitor it after is just too labourious.

Bastards. :(

[lookfar]

A new law has passed in the UK allowing a huge number of authoritative bodies to access our e-mails, phone calls, visited websites etc. The police, hospitals, social services, and a huge number of ridiculously unnecessary organisations can access these details, but this takes time as the police etc have to apply for the information from Internet Service Providers. MI5 and MI6 under new legislation, recieve the details of every visited webpage, e-mail, phone call automatically and directly from the Internet and telephone providers.

Also, the intellegence services have all the best hackers, they can access any civilian PC anytime they want.

The worrying aspect of the phone thing is that they can watch you in real-time. Thats what everything is working toward. Complete real-time surveillence of every aspect of society. The idea of recording behaviour to monitor it after is just too labourious.

Bastards. :(

Yeah I know & you're right there "bastards" sums it up pretty well imo :mad::mad::mad:

[asentinel]

That would be why they are trying to incorporate GPS into as much gadgetry as possible.

They made early mobile quite disposable, so that you have to keep upgrading.

Those Italians, mafia-like subtefuge, brilliant baddies! :D:eek:

[flare]

http://www.ulocate.com/

Saw this used on Parco PI on crime channel pay TV. A private investigator taped his own mobile phone to the underside of target vehicle, and by using ulocate was able to pinpoint a location.

[marpat]

I think it is time to build a farraday cage for mobile phones!!!!!!!!!!!

[serpentoffire]

I think it is time to build a farraday cage for mobile phones!!!!!!!!!!!

it's only time to bring down the NWO.