13 million people attended Michael J B'day Tribute

[neon]

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab160/MissPradaGirly/90177277.jpg
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab160/MissPradaGirly/90177274.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj82qkrdhRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tiUjpux6dU&feature=channel_page

http://www.1tv.ru/news/n150735

Spike Lee Celebration of Michael's Birthday in Prospect Park in Brooklyn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS3nFx0SRJ4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emjj2005%2Ecom%2Fkopboard%2 Findex%2Ephp%3Fshowtopic%3D46371&feature=player_embedded#t=110

[d9d9d9]

Wasn't Michael a paedo? Why celebrate a paedo?
Don't get it :confused:

[joe911]

Wasn't Michael a paedo? Why celebrate a paedo?
Don't get it :confused:

He was found not guilty in a court of law.

People celebrate what he braught so many of us in this world,how many artists could bring that many people together to make history whilst been amazingly happy at the same time?

[theoneandonly]

Wasn't Michael a paedo? Why celebrate a paedo?
Don't get it :confused:

No... i always see people saying on here the media are corrupt.. they destroy the good people in our society.. hence Michael was made to look like bad in media! What Michael did was phenomenal! Dont listen to media lies!

The truth of matter is.. the first allegations he settled out of court because he did not want to go through that long draining process (even if he IS innocent), he did not want to settle but had to! What would you want for your kid justice or money... they chose money! Case closed (LIARS)! The second time there was not a shred of evidence against him.. which was proved as he was found to be innocent!

Hate when i see these things written!

[nayan]

Wasn't Michael a paedo? Why celebrate a paedo?
Don't get it :confused:

Again, its the mass media.

[meksar]

13 million is of course a Illuminati ritual of massive emotional energy, i think that it is open to debate whether he was pedophile or not. When he made the song they don't care about us is when these accusations started to come out. It is known that he himself was abused throughout his childhood and this could have triggered him to engage in dark rituals etc, but you then also look at how he dangled his baby over the balcony in Germany. His videos of course were rife in occult symbolism and he was a big sacrificial lamb to them.

What i feel fans of his music should look at is his final message he was trying to get out, he wanted to remake heal the world for the children of Palestine etc as a tour in London. With all the media hype behind that it was set up to be a massive let down. I think this is the murder which will mean much more people will no longer be able to turn a blind eye to what is going on in Hollywood.

[redskywalker]

mercury in vaccines! squaline and the rest. chemtrails poisoning us all! bankers toppling economies! politicians scheming and plotting mass murder! cruelty! hate! war! greed!All of the above REAL ISSUES, and many many more, yet we get this :( if we want this we can watch teevee. please can everyone start rating useless threads 1 star. We don't have the time or energy to waste on this mince.

thank fech its been moved!

[joe911]

mercury in vaccines! squaline and the rest. chemtrails poisoning us all! bankers toppling economies! politicians scheming and plotting mass murder! cruelty! hate! war! greed!All of the above REAL ISSUES, and many many more, yet we get this :( if we want this we can watch teevee. please can everyone start rating useless threads 1 star. We don't have the time or energy to waste on this mince.

thank fech its been moved!

YES PEOPLE,,YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENJOY YOURSELVES.DONT GO OUT AND GATHER IN MASS AND DANCE TOGETHER. STAY AT HOME STUCK ON YOUR COMPUTERS ON LITTLE INTERNERNET FORUMS,LISTENING TO ALL THE FEAR MONGERING BULLSHIT.BE SCARED ALL YOUR LIVES.OUTSIDE WORLD=BAD STAYING INDOORS AND SENDING ALEX JONES YOUR MONEY=GOOD.

FFS PEOPLE GATHERING LIKE THIS,IS A MIRACLE. Just like the flashmobs...they meet as total strangers,and dance together,without judgement and prejudis. These things proove that there is good in the world,and that people can get on with each other. Interesting fact is that majority of those who take part arent even dancers.

[neon]

13 million is of course a Illuminati ritual of massive emotional energy, i think that it is open to debate whether he was pedophile or not. When he made the song they don't care about us is when these accusations started to come out. It is known that he himself was abused throughout his childhood and this could have triggered him to engage in dark rituals etc, but you then also look at how he dangled his baby over the balcony in Germany. His videos of course were rife in occult symbolism and he was a big sacrificial lamb to them.

What i feel fans of his music should look at is his final message he was trying to get out, he wanted to remake heal the world for the children of Palestine etc as a tour in London. With all the media hype behind that it was set up to be a massive let down. I think this is the murder which will mean much more people will no longer be able to turn a blind eye to what is going on in Hollywood.

Your looking at the negative side too long dear friend, i can understand your perspective but you need to focus on love more then the conspiracy side...

Stop giving the illuminati power......... no illuminati caused these people to go and unite and sing and dance with love and joy! People united from thier hearts with unconditional love for another being. God has the upper hand in everything.

[neon]

mercury in vaccines! squaline and the rest. chemtrails poisoning us all! bankers toppling economies! politicians scheming and plotting mass murder! cruelty! hate! war! greed!All of the above REAL ISSUES, and many many more, yet we get this :( if we want this we can watch teevee. please can everyone start rating useless threads 1 star. We don't have the time or energy to waste on this mince.

thank fech its been moved!

Why is it when the topic of MJ comes up, there are a few who screammm "WHO CARES""?? why does it bother you so much Michael is getting the attention and respect? IT just shows your insecurities within yourself, Michael is a mirror for you, time to look upon your own reflection and ask why you feel this way. Self love is the key.

The movie "Angels and Demons" was used as a distraction to focus on conspiracies to distract lightworkers away from focusing on the love that was outpouring that came from Michael passing.......but it failed.....Light conquered. :o

[neon]

yes people,,you are not allowed to enjoy yourselves.dont go out and gather in mass and dance together. Stay at home stuck on your computers on little internernet forums,listening to all the fear mongering bullshit.be scared all your lives.outside world=bad staying indoors and sending alex jones your money=good.

ffs people gathering like this,is a miracle. Just like the flashmobs...they meet as total strangers,and dance together,without judgement and prejudis. These things proove that there is good in the world,and that people can get on with each other. Interesting fact is that majority of those who take part arent even dancers.

a miracle indeed! :)

[neon]

Wasn't Michael a paedo? Why celebrate a paedo?
Don't get it :confused:

Your judgement and hate blind your eyes.

[clint_giles]

He was found not guilty in a court of law.

People celebrate what he braught so many of us in this world,how many artists could bring that many people together to make history whilst been amazingly happy at the same time?

let me correct you friend,he never went to a court of law.
he paid out befor doing so,not just once either.


i have been a long time beleiver that he was/is a kiddie diddler.

but im not sure anymore about that,or anything for that matter.

[joe911]

let me correct you friend,he never went to a court of law.
he paid out befor doing so,not just once either.


i have been a long time beleiver that he was/is a kiddie diddler.

but im not sure anymore about that,or anything for that matter.

And let me correct you,the second time he was accused he did go to court. AND WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY!

The only pheasable evidence they had the first time was that jordi described Michaels penis,he said he was circumcised. But when then examined him they found that he wasnt. Case closed.

[jojo]

Wasn't Michael a paedo? Why celebrate a paedo?
Don't get it :confused:

i thought this too, untill after his death, when i started to watch videos (filmed on mobile phones and such) of him speaking against the establishment, about the NWO agenda, mass veccinations etc. he knew something.

just before the last paedo charges were brought against him, he was speaking about blowing the lid off secrets of sony's corrupt management.

now i recon he was framed and then murdered to shut him up (because he was going to speak out agaisnt tptb in the O2 gigs)

[d9d9d9]

why does it bother you so much Michael is getting the attention and respect?

Maybe because he was a paedofile?
Or maybe just because in a greater scheme of things people like Jackson are irrelevant? Maybe both.

[timmy]

Wasn't Michael a paedo? Why celebrate a paedo?
Don't get it :confused:

What, you just woke up?
So many posts we write about this. Or you don't have time to read? Of, cource, it's more easy to say this s***t :(

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread477059/pg1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syQsYdrVuyQ

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/TrialMJJSource.htm

[pinnochio]

Listen to the lyrics.

Heal the world and Man in the mirror

then tell me the man wasn't a beautiful being.

And the dream we were concieved in will shine again in grace. So why do we keep straying when this earth crucifies its soul. This world is heavenly its plain to see. Let love flow!!!!!

Yh thats an evil man.

The media totally distort things

[joe911]

What, you just woke up?
So many posts we write about this. Or you don't have time to read? Of, cource, it's more easy to say this s***t :(


The same people who write stuff like "wacko was a pedo" [same headlines from tabloid trash] are the same people in other threads who write things like "dont beleive everything you read in the papers,especially tabloids" ohhhhh the irony.

[timmy]

let me correct you friend,he never went to a court of law.
he paid out befor doing so,not just once either.


i have been a long time beleiver that he was/is a kiddie diddler.

but im not sure anymore about that,or anything for that matter.

It is not Michael paid the money, but the insurance company. Michael wanted to go to court and fight back against these allegations.
Then Michael sue the insurance company, because they have done this without his approval.
And anyway, a real pedophile, would not have attracted attention, gathering children around him.

[joe911]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG-qd80tSKA

There's A Place In
Your Heart
And I Know That It Is Love
And This Place Could
Be Much
Brighter Than Tomorrow
And If You Really Try
You'll Find There's No Need
To Cry
In This Place You'll Feel
There's No Hurt Or Sorrow

There Are Ways
To Get There
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Little Space
Make A Better Place...

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

[joe911]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn4OYo7TYR0

Seeing him crying whilst singing this makes me http://icons-search.com/img/icons-land/IconsLandVistaStyleEmoticonsDemo.zip/IconsLandVistaStyleEmoticonsDemo-PNG-256x256-Cry.png-256x256.png

[timmy]

My friends and I went to a concert dedicated to MJ. Got a lot of positive energy! We danced and sang. We met a lot nice people. And what's wrong with that?!
And another thing I wanted to write ...
If you look back in history. All geniuses have been desecrated, people (and especially church) was saying that they came from hell: Poganini, Beethoven ...
Even the Church did not give permission to bury Poganini, when he's died. So his body were traveled several years across the country.

[joe911]

My friends and I went to a concert dedicated to MJ. Got a lot of positive energy! We danced and sang. We met a lot nice people. And what's wrong with that?!
And another thing I wanted to write ...
If you look back in history. All geniuses have been desecrated, people (and especially church) was saying that they came from hell: Poganini, Beethoven ...
Even the Church did not give permission to bury Poganini, when he's died. So his body were traveled several years across the country.

I totally agree,we are doing a tribute concert for him at school,and singing and dancing to his music is one of the most amazing feelings in the world! :)

We will learn alot more about michael now he is no longer with us,he is allready prooving we are able to get together without prejudice. Youtube; mj flashmobs.

This is good too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MAKLq865bk

[d9d9d9]

The same people who write stuff like "wacko was a pedo" [same headlines from tabloid trash] are the same people in other threads who write things like "dont beleive everything you read in the papers,especially tabloids" ohhhhh the irony.

M.J. admitted to sleeping with young boys. You're telling it's normal that 40 year old dude likes sleeping with young boys in the same bed?

No, he wasn't paedo. Also, moon is made of cheese.

Garry Glitter is not paedo either...it's all tabloids, right?


M.J. had the money to buy silence… so he did.

[timmy]

Look at this video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hfL859YY0&feature=related
Quality, of course, suffers. But look at Michael, he is not smiling. He is serious, because it raised a very important topic. And he's right 100%

[joe911]

M.J. admitted to sleeping with young boys. You're telling it's normal that 40 year old dude likes sleeping with young boys in the same bed?

No, he wasn't paedo. Also, moon is made of cheese.

Garry Glitter is not paedo either...it's all tabloids, right?


M.J. had the money to buy silence… so he did.

Wrong again,,he admitted to sharing his bed with them,its YOUR twisted mind that assums sharing a bed=mollesting. Of course its not normal,but michael wasnt normal,he had never known normal so how can you judge him by your standards of normal.

Garry glitter is a different story,this is about MJ. Garry was tried and convicted,show me evidence to suggest he wasnt guilty and i will listen.

Prehaps you should watch the unedited version of the bashir interview;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN1lOBLaEKE

[timmy]

Wrong again,,he admitted to sharing his bed with them,its YOUR twisted mind that assums sharing a bed=mollesting. Of course its not normal,but michael wasnt normal,he had never known normal so how can you judge him by your standards of normal.

Garry glitter is a different story,this is about MJ. Garry was tried and convicted,show me evidence to suggest he wasnt guilty and i will listen.

Prehaps you should watch the unedited version of the bashir interview;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN1lOBLaEKE
A-a-a, don't waste your time. He make his mind already, he's not gonna read or watch. :(

[d9d9d9]

its YOUR twisted mind that assums sharing a bed=mollesting. Of course its not normal,but michael wasnt normal,
You're contradicting yourself...and that tells me that you're approaching this subject with your emotions and not your brain.

All evidence points in the direction of M.J. being a paedofile (with very deep pockets).

He was a paedo... Truth hurts, deal with it Joe.

[timmy]

You're contradicting yourself...and that tells me that you're approaching this subject with your emotions and not your brain.

All evidence points in the direction of M.J. being a paedofile (with very deep pockets).

He was a paedo... Truth hurts, deal with it Joe.
Evidence, please!
Without evidence it`s just "bla-bla-bla"

[joe911]

You're contradicting yourself...and that tells me that you're approaching this subject with your emotions and not your brain.

All evidence points in the direction of M.J. being a paedofile (with very deep pockets).

He was a paedo... Truth hurts, deal with it Joe.

Sometimes when my little cousain has nightmares he comes and gets in my bed. "I share my bed with a little boy" Would you class me as a pedophile???

The truth is you have no evidence,other than the very bias martin bashtwat interview,which you have only seen his edited version,i have linked you to the unedited videos,if you are interested in truth i suggest you watch those.

If all you have is the line "he admitted to sharing his bed with kids" then i feel sorry for you. You know nothing about Michael,so go and do a little research,and we will have a discussion.

[brainfreeze]

Sometimes when my little cousain has nightmares he comes and gets in my bed. "I share my bed with a little boy" Would you class me as a pedophile???

The truth is you have no evidence,other than the very bias martin bashtwat interview,which you have only seen his edited version,i have linked you to the unedited videos,if you are interested in truth i suggest you watch those.

If all you have is the line "he admitted to sharing his bed with kids" then i feel sorry for you. You know nothing about Michael,so go and do a little research,and we will have a discussion.

That kid MJ paid out 21 million to is still about - grown now. When MJ died peeps were reporting that the guy admitted to making it up, but that was rubbish. In fact I read somewhere recently where his girlfriend spoke out about his mental anguish he has suffered due to those like you who don't believe he was molested by MJ.

And then there are those who say that MJ only paid out that much on the advise of his lawyer, and still others who blame it all on a Sony fix to get MJ's Beatle catalogue and such.

Personally, I'm more interested in the victim. He'll live with this forever and his molester is now the recognised and worshipped King of Pop. Well, guess the P in the last word there is right huh? But some say otherwise.

Also, what happened to MJ's "special friends" when they grew up? If he was such a loving innocent why didn't they keep in touch? He should have been surrouned by youths who loved him for his fab pj parties.

[joe911]

Evidence, please!
Without evidence it`s just "bla-bla-bla"

The truth is they dont have any evidence against him. We can show them mountains of positive things about michael,his life and his work,and all they have is the martin bashir interview.

Michael gave this world so much,i hope one day people will realise just how lucky we are to have had him.

[joe911]

Personally, I'm more interested in the victim. He'll live with this forever and his molester is now the recognised and worshipped King of Pop. Well, guess the P in the last word there is right huh? But some say otherwise.

Also, what happened to MJ's "special friends" when they grew up? If he was such a loving innocent why didn't they keep in touch? He should have been surrouned by youths who loved him for his fab pj parties.

What i dont understand about "his victim" is that his mother and father allowed him to stay with michael if they thought anything was wrong. Apparently evan started having suspicions when he invited michael over and he stayed in jordies bed. If that were my son i would have stopped it right there if i thought anything wrong was happening,but he allowed michael to stay for 12 days i beleive without once confronting him about it.

That family were just like any other family,now they have studio apartments in new york and dubai,,so much for him been scarred forever,he had no problem spending mjs money.

Mjs friends did keep in touch,alot were even at his memorial service.

[brainfreeze]

What i dont understand about "his victim" is that his mother and father allowed him to stay with michael if they thought anything was wrong. Apparently evan started having suspicions when he invited michael over and he stayed in jordies bed. If that were my son i would have stopped it right there if i thought anything wrong was happening,but he allowed michael to stay for 12 days i beleive without once confronting him about it.

That family were just like any other family,now they have studio apartments in new york and dubai,,so much for him been scarred forever,he had no problem spending mjs money.

Mjs friends did keep in touch,alot were even at his memorial service.

Yes, his parents should have taken more care. Doesn't make it ok for MJ to abuse the boy though.

Why should he have a problem spending the money when MJ didn't have a problem with abusing him? I'd piss it up against a wall after corpious amounts of expensive champagne. And I'm still wondering why MJ fans made up the story about the boy confessing about lying after MJ dying?

I don't know that any of the boys MJ befriended over time where at the funeral. Who were they? Any links, pics or names?

[joe911]

Yes, his parents should have taken more care. Doesn't make it ok for MJ to abuse the boy though.

Why should he have a problem spending the money when MJ didn't have a problem with abusing him? I'd piss it up against a wall after corpious amounts of expensive champagne.

I don't know that any of the boys MJ befriended over time where at the funeral. Who were they? Any links, pics or names?

But there is no evidence to say he abused him.

Again,there is no evidence prooving jordi was abused. And to accept payment rather than justice says it all.

Some of the children he befreiended were there,most were too grief strucken to attend,omar bhati was there in the front row.

[brainfreeze]

But there is no evidence to say he abused him.

Again,there is no evidence prooving jordi was abused. And to accept payment rather than justice says it all.
Some of the children he befreiended were there,most were too grief strucken to attend,omar bhati was there in the front row.

There was enough evidence to take the case to court or else it would not have been considered, but MJ settled out of. Bare that in mind.

Regarding the justice comment, the money was compensation, I'm sure that's how the boy sees it, and I'm sure he was relieved he didn't have to re-live the sordid details in court. I'm speculating. But as I've said before, big businesses settle out of court when they KNOW the damage will be worse should they go through with it.

MJ fans stuanchly believe he is innocent, others are more sceptical. 21 million in the eighties was a massive fortune! It's also an admission of guilt to some extent. He settled out of court, now show me the proof he didn't do it?

[timmy]

This reporter did an investigation and then what she had:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread477059/pg1



http://www.mj-upbeat.com/TrialMJJSource.htm

[brainfreeze]

This reporter did an investigation and then what she had:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread477059/pg1



http://www.mj-upbeat.com/TrialMJJSource.htm


Thanks for the links. Just reading the first one, not going to go through the court days on the second link. OJ scripts and court clips proove he's innocent too.

Reading the Fischer report, all those bodyguards, house-keepers and the Chandler lot all plotted against innocent MJ, and he did nothing to fight back? They all lied and conived, yet they've not been found guilty of any of these accusations, and I am to believe them, but not the accusations MJ actually settled out of court for? He did no investigating himself? He had the money to hire private investigators and to dig up the dirt, get the evidence needed on all of them to strengthen his case, but he didn't. Why? I'm sure he could have done it for 21 million?

We're to believe MJ was vulnerable to blackmail because of his wealth and his innocent love of children. Even a stupid man knows, leave the kiddies you love so much alone if your love for them is being exploited. But that love drug drew him back, in all innocence, and we had a repeat of allegations.

I cherry on top is, as reported, Chandlers mother forced the boy on MJ when she first met him, giving her number to MJ the way she did. Tutt..tutt.... The father used the truth drug on his son and implanted false memory and nothing has been done about it? Why aren't the Jackson clan making a who-ha over that with a mal-practice action?

Sounds like white-noise to me.

How many boys in total, and they all lied, not just the boys, but those who said they could bare witness too?

You don't think a 13 year old boy would have cracked up over the years and told at least one person, even in drunkeness, that he lied?

"The evidence was very good for us," says an attorney who worked on Jackson's defense. "The other side had nothing but a big mouth."

Over the months, lawyers for both sides were retained, demoted and ousted as they feuded over the best strategy to take. Rothman ceased being Chandler's lawyer in late August, when the Jackson camp filed extortion charges against the two. Both then hired high-priced criminal defense attorneys to represent them.. (Rothman retained Robert Shapiro, now O.J. Simpson's chief lawyer.) According to the diary kept by Rothman's former colleague, on August 26, before the extortion charges were filed, Chandler was heard to say "It's my (bleep) that's on the line and in danger of going to prison." The investigation into the extortion charges was superficial because, says a source, "the police never took it that seriously. But a whole lot more could have been done." For example, as they had done with Jackson, the police could have sought warrants to search the homes and offices of Rothman and Chandler. And when both men, through their attorneys, declined to be interviewed by police, a grand jury could have been convened.

Here's all the excuses why a famous black guy gone white may lose in court...

Why would Jackson's side agree to settle out of court, given his claims of innocence and the questionable evidence against him? His attorneys apparently decided there were many factors that argued against taking the case to civil court. Among them was the fact that Jackson's emotional fragility would be tested by the oppressive media coverage that would likely plague the singer day after day during a trial that could last as long as six months. Politics and racial issues had also seeped into legal proceedings -- particularly in Los Angeles, which was still recovering from the Rodney King ordeal -- and the defense feared that a court of law could not be counted on to deliver justice. Then, too, there was the jury mix to consider. As one attorney says, "They figured that Hispanics might resent [Jackson] for his money, blacks might resent him for trying to be white, and whites would have trouble getting around the molestation issue." In Resnick's opinion, "The hysteria is so great and the stigma [of child molestation] is so strong, there is no defense against it."

Jackson's lawyers also worried about what might happen if a criminal trial followed, particularly in Santa Barbara, which is a largely white, conservative, middle-to-upper-class community. Any way the defense looked at it, a civil trial seemed too big a gamble. By meeting the terms of a civil settlement, sources say, the lawyers figured they could forestall a criminal trial through a tacit understanding that Chandler would agree to make his son unavailable to testify.

Others close to the case say the decision to settle also probably had to do with another factor -- the lawyers' reputations. "Can you imagine what would happen to an attorney who lost the Michael Jackson case?" says Anthony Pellicano. "There's no way for all three lawyers to come out winners unless they settle. The only person who lost is Michael Jackson." But Jackson, says Branca, "changed his mind about [taking the case to trial] when he returned to this country. He hadn't seen the massive coverage and how hostile it was. He just wanted the whole thing to go away."

What really stuck me is "the lawyers believed they had a strong case but were worried about loosing?

[timmy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPzfQeW-Gwk

[brainfreeze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPzfQeW-Gwk

Thanks for that link, very interesting. Rodney Allen said he made it up because he wanted Michael to "face it". Wonder what he means? Wonder what happened regarding the alligations that another Jackson member had molested him? Wish they would report ALL the facts.

OK, so how many kids made alligations against MJ?

Did ALL of them lie?

[joe911]

There was enough evidence to take the case to court or else it would not have been considered, but MJ settled out of. Bare that in mind.

Regarding the justice comment, the money was compensation, I'm sure that's how the boy sees it, and I'm sure he was relieved he didn't have to re-live the sordid details in court. I'm speculating. But as I've said before, big businesses settle out of court when they KNOW the damage will be worse should they go through with it.

MJ fans stuanchly believe he is innocent, others are more sceptical. 21 million in the eighties was a massive fortune! It's also an admission of guilt to some extent. He settled out of court, now show me the proof he didn't do it?

That is a fair point,but i always thought the only credible evidence they would have had would be that jordi claimed he knew what mjs penis looked like,and when they examined it,it turned out to be wrong.

That is also another valid point,but it boils down to opinion wether one see's it as proof of guilt.

[d9d9d9]

LaToya Jackson :
"Michael has molested young boys over the years at the family's home and (her mother) Katherine, knew about it.
She made her charges first at a news conference suggesting that "I can't remain silent. I will not be a silent collaborator in his crimes against small, innocent children."

[joe911]

LaToya Jackson :
"Michael has molested young boys over the years at the family's home and (her mother) Katherine, knew about it.
She made her charges first at a news conference suggesting that "I can't remain silent. I will not be a silent collaborator in his crimes against small, innocent children."

She also said that her own dad,joe mollested her. She later retracted her statments and apologeized.

The only one who really loved and cared for michael in that family was Jermaine.

[timmy]

LaToya Jackson :
"Michael has molested young boys over the years at the family's home and (her mother) Katherine, knew about it.
She made her charges first at a news conference suggesting that "I can't remain silent. I will not be a silent collaborator in his crimes against small, innocent children."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VnPqCAv47c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijTBRnQNdz0&feature=related

[joe911]

Using latoyas statment is flawed anyways. Jermain and Katherine [publicly]beleived Michael was innocent thats 2 family to your 1. FAIL

[brainfreeze]

That is a fair point,but i always thought the only credible evidence they would have had would be that jordi claimed he knew what mjs penis looked like,and when they examined it,it turned out to be wrong.

That is also another valid point,but it boils down to opinion wether one see's it as proof of guilt.

My father raped my sister and I and I can't discribe his penis for you. Unless of course MJ had something unusual about his cock I don't see how a cock discription is proof of anything.

[timmy]

My father raped my sister and I and I can't discribe his penis for you. Unless of course MJ had something unusual about his cock I don't see how a cock discription is proof of anything.
He had birthmark or somekind spot, looks like..... (I saw an interview with his old friend-I will try to find the link and share with you).
If the boy saw his penis, he would have described this spot.
And yes, kids lie (especially when they 11-15 y.o.) I know that because my kids lie to me sometimes. And in such serious cases (like MJ case), they will lie, if behind their backs are adults.

[brainfreeze]

He had birthmark or somekind spot, looks like..... (I saw an interview with his old friend-I will try to find the link and share with you).
If the boy saw his penis, he would have described this spot.
And yes, kids lie (especially when they 11-15 y.o.) I know that because my kids lie to me sometimes. And in such serious cases (like MJ case), they will lie, if behind their backs are adults.

It's the adults who have the lying to a fine art though.

Latoyas words aren't accepted, they're refuted because she's not credible, but she's as credible as her weird brother was with as many issues as him. Her and MJ were allies once regarding their fathers abuse of them. Latoya was married to the old guy for how many years without anyone even realising it. Smacks of her being controlled to me, look how timid she is. So I'm not surprised she's retracted what she previously said about her and her mother suspecting MJ of abusing the boys.

[timmy]

It's the adults who have the lying to a fine art though.

Latoyas words aren't accepted, they're refuted because she's not credible, but she's as credible as her weird brother was with as many issues as him. Her and MJ were allies once regarding their fathers abuse of them. Latoya was married to the old guy for how many years without anyone even realising it. Smacks of her being controlled to me, look how timid she is. So I'm not surprised she's retracted what she previously said about her and her mother suspecting MJ of abusing the boys.
And if you look at the video where she said that Michael is guilty, she looks like a robot, repeating memorized words. She even not look like her with the horrible yellow wig.

[brainfreeze]

And if you look at the video where she said that Michael is guilty, she looks like a robot, repeating memorized words. She even not look like her with the horrible yellow wig.

But when she was speaking to, is it Conan O' Brian in that clip, she was guarded and wasn't sure she should be discussing the issue. He was her brother, why shouldn't she discuss him? What was she worried she might slip up on?

[gaias child]

There is no evidence that show Michael Jackson was guilty of child molestation and loads of evidence to show what a kind hearted innocent naive spiritual person he was. Eccentric he was by what society regards as normal but that doesn't make him a criminal, and being a world famous superstar since child hood isn't normal either.

The court transcripts demonstrate the conspiracy against him. The lies told. This would never have gone to court if it had been anyone else. There was no doubt, every single juror cleared him on every single count. The DA Tom Sneddon had an unhealthy obsession with MJ and loathed him , along with him having been deliberately set up with Martin Bashir. There were other powerful people involved with trying to bring MJ down ie Sony who Michael Jackson exposed for corruption in the music industry and called Tommy Mottola a criminal a few months before. He boasted that he would be leaving Sony owning half of sony , after that they tried to destroy sales of his album.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIb9PFrmCT4




Sony and Mottola loathed Michael Jackson, incidentally Martin Bashir brother was a driver for Tommy Mottola, and Uri Geller introduced Michael to Martin Bashir. The allegations were designed to destroy Michaels career and create a financial situation and force him to sell his sony publishing catelogue because whoever has that is powerful in the music industry and that is why it came to court. This time he was coming back to do the concerts which after he had done them he would have been free of sony and now he is dead.

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/TrialMJJSource.htm court transcripts

Also Aphrodite Jones a fox news journalist who covered the trial and also believed Michael Jackso was guilty until she saw the evidence and realised what was being done to Michael Jackson was wrong and it was untrue and they were destroying a human being. Doing weird stories on Michael Jackson had become multi billion dollar commodity, the weirder the better, whether they were true or not didn't matter, this was a viscious attack on an innocent person. After the trials she decided to do a book on Jackson to expose what occured in the trials, given the media weren't interested in reporting the truth, they just made most of it up, but no one would publish it, they thought she was insane no one would buy a pro jackson book, no money in that ,so she decided to self published. She didn't do it for the money, there was more in unpleasant stories on Michael, she did it because of a belief in decency honesty and integrity.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Michael-Jackson-Conspiracy-Aphrodite-Jones/dp/0979549809/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251830344&sr=8-1

[timmy]

Yes, the media lost a lot.
They wanted this:
Michael is guilty, Michael goes to jail, not an easy life of Michael in prison, who of stars-friens came and who did not come to visit Michael, Michael could not stand the harsh prison life and committed suicide.
And so their plans have all collapsed.

[timmy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michae l_Jackson
"In the same conversation, when asked how this would affect his son, Chandler replied, "That's irrelevant to me...It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want. It's going to be bigger than all us put together...This man [Jackson] is going to be humiliated beyond belief...He will not sell one more record".[2] The recorded conversation was a critical aspect of Jackson's defense against the upcoming allegation made against him. He and his supporters argue that he was the victim of a jealous father whose only goal was to extort money from the singer.[2]


Once labeled a "Truth Serum", sodium Amytal is now considered a mind-altering sedative.In early August, Chandler, a registered dentist, extracted a tooth from his son's mouth, and was later forced to admit that he used the controversial sedative sodium Amytal during the procedure.[1] Under the influence of the drug, Jordan alleged that Jackson had touched his penis. Experts state that the drug sodium Amytal "makes patients extremely susceptible to suggestions".[1] Dr Lewis Strong, a Los Angeles psychiatrist stated, "You can't trust it, I never use it in my practice. I have found it to be unreliable. It's certainly not a truth serum".[1] Dr Kenneth Gottlieb, a San Francisco psychiatrist who has used the drug, stated, "I would never want to use a drug that tampers with a person's unconscious unless there was no other drug available, and I would not use it without resuscitation equipment in case of allergic reaction".[1]

Over the next couple of months both parties engaged in unsuccessful (out of court) financial negotiations, with Chandler and his legal team asking for $20 million, or the issue would be taken to criminal court.[3] Jackson declined the offer, saying, "No way in Hell". A few weeks later, Jackson's legal team gave a counter-offer to the value of $1 million, which was declined by Chandler.[3] The father then lowered his request to $15 million; Jackson rejected this and lowered his original counter-offer to $350,000. With both sides unable to reach an agreement, Chandler decided he would take it to court.[3] Chandler then took his son to see a psychiatrist called Dr. Mathis Abrams, and during the three-hour session with the doctor, Jordan Chandler said he had had a sexual relationship with Jackson that included incidents of kissing, masturbation and oral sex that went on for months. He then repeated these allegations to police and gave a detailed description of what he alleged was Jackson's penis.[3][4]"

[joe911]

Unless of course MJ had something unusual about his cock I don't see how a cock discription is proof of anything.

A circumsiced dick is very different to a uncut one. Jordi claimed mj was cut,and if he had been forced to touch it,or do other things with it,he would surley be able to tell wether mj was cut or not.

[brainfreeze]

A circumsiced dick is very different to a uncut one. Jordi claimed mj was cut,and if he had been forced to touch it,or do other things with it,he would surley be able to tell wether mj was cut or not.

EDIT: What I wrote is not important.

Moving on, I doubt the truth will ever out, and I've spent far too much energy on this tread.

[timmy]

EDIT: What I wrote is not important.

Moving on, I doubt the truth will ever out, and I've spent far too much energy on this tread.

Oh, you spent a lot of energy? How so? You did not bother to search any link that supports your theory. :rolleyes:

[brainfreeze]

Oh, you spent a lot of energy? How so? You did not bother to search any link that supports your theory. :rolleyes:

It's a full time job researching MJ and no I didn't follow the court link as I said but I've followed others, so bang goes your little theary Wally :rolleyes:

Oh the arrogance of you huh?

[timmy]

It's a full time job researching MJ and no I didn't follow the court link as I said but I've followed others, so bang goes your little theary Wally :rolleyes:

Oh the arrogance of you huh?
You were following others... who (or what)? I did not understand. And who is Wally?
Sorry for my English.

[linda28]

I feel so sorry for those who call Michael a child molester because you are believing the media lies.
You should do some research into the people that accused him, and find that the family had already been accused of false sexual accusations before the MJ case, also for fraud.

MJ helped this kid from dying of cancer. The family first praised Michael for what he did, (they even got that on tape), but when they started acting more and more rude and taking advantage of him, Michael turned his back, and that's when these accusations came.

And remember it was the kid who wanted to sleep in Michael's bed -and kind as he is, he couldn't say no, because he wanted to heal the child from cancer with giving love and warmth (which he did, the kid was dying).

Hard to believe what the accuser testified in court - that AFTER, not before, this Bashir documentary came out, Michael supposedly molested him. Yeah right. If someone makes a documentary indicating you are a peado, I'm sure everyone would not until then make a first move on a child, perfect timing huh?

Not to mention that lie of how MJ supposedly showed them porn and was talking dirty to his own son (7) while he was sleeping. Totally low life trash lies. Why would anyone find any excitment in sharing his porn only with that one child, and not any of the hundreds of other kids that were there? And after having met him only ONCE before??!?

The accuser, Gavin, also claimed that Michael licked his face on an airplane with 14 other people who were asleep, except for Gavin's mom who woke up and saw that. This is total absurd. If MJ took that chance to do such a thing, he'd be convicted for sure and get 20 years in prison.

Michael likes women. I think proof of that is in his private phone conversation with a woman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSv0t_52qPg

He actually was/is very normal. Has great moral.

The 1993 case was also just accusations. No proof. And to avoid a 5 year long trial in the media, MJ paid them money. Who could blame him? He would never survive such a trial. Who can? There is great evil in accusing someone for sexual molestation. And the crazy thing is, anyone can do it, and instantly everybody thinks you're guilty because "yeah, he is kinda weird isn't he?"

Anyway, there was tons of workers at Neverland 24/7, and lots of kids everywhere, yet no one ever saw anything suspicious. Funny how only those 2 wacko families would be so appealing to a man like MJ. Low life trash was that Gavin's mom.

[dinachick]

I agree with you linda28!

RIP Michael.