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lostinstrangeworld
18-08-2007, 01:52 PM
This is a great movie, I told the friends who sent it to me it is probably the most fascinating thing I've watched in my life:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


Apparently, the beginning upset a lot of Christians they knew. I also think we should be sensitive about it.....someone who is a deep believer in Christianity could have a nervous breakdown if they ever found out the truth too suddenly......

However, I thought about the beginning part of it a little bit. The movie insinuates that Jesus never even existed.

I have another theory.

My theory is that he did exist. He was a deeply and truly spiritual teacher, just like Buddha and the Yogis, the Tibetan monks, Amma, etc..........

His teachings were so moving that they became very widespread. This worried and annoyed the authorities, so they decided to take the matter into their own hands. They re-wrote the Bible. They turned Jesus into something he wasn't, incorporating him into their own myths, to make it
more acceptable to people worshiping other 'gods'.....but the main reason, of course (and as always) was for CONTROL!

Buddha formed his own spiritual path to get away from some of the idolatry and dogma of his upbringing. The real truth can be found within. The most profound and spiritual writings are by those who have gone within.

If you look at Jesus' teachings and the rest of the Bible, it is clear that they contradict each other!

Jesus taught forgiveness, love, equality and not to judge. If you look at the characteristics of 'God' (which really meant 'those who came from the sky' in Hebrew)....you see, if you look.....that this God is actually quite sadistic and controlling.

True love is unconditional.

So I say that Jesus did in fact live, they just changed the story. Jesus was in fact a true teacher, but I feel he didn't want us to worship him as such, only to realize that all that he did, we can do also. (Now we can see the story was changed, we can also see it is likely he didn't perform the super-miracles the Bible says he did.....although I do believe in the power of mind over matter).


Written with LOVE.

*There are also slight inaccuracies with the film...the film failed to mention the Dead Sea Scrolls; I'm sure there is other evidence he lived which can be found in the books of various authors/researchers.

lydia78
18-08-2007, 02:07 PM
Hi :)

Have you read the nag hammeid, the gnostic scriptures....think you'd find them interesting..:)

just in the process of reading them myself.

lostinstrangeworld
18-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Hi Lydia.....

I'd really like to! It's just the illusion of Time can get in the way!;)

revolution 9
18-08-2007, 05:32 PM
I've never seen convincing evidence that there was a Jesus, "pure love" or otherwise. Jesus was symbolic.

john white
18-08-2007, 06:24 PM
Astro Theology, as presented by Maxwell, Acharya S, Zeitgeist part 1, etc, does indeed threaten the faith of christians... who have never questioned, that is to say, quested, to really understand their faith

But in fact, in simply deepens the mystery and the marvel of it for those who have truly ears to understand

pumma
18-08-2007, 08:21 PM
*There are also slight inaccuracies with the film...the film failed to mention the Dead Sea Scrolls; I'm sure there is other evidence he lived which can be found in the books of various authors/researchers.

I don't know if these are the one wich were found in caves by a Egyptian farmer ... but those scrolls showed Jesus in a more human way, he got a women, he smiled, laughed, etc... and didn't do any miracles that were common myths (like stories) at that time...

lostinstrangeworld
18-08-2007, 09:11 PM
I don't know if these are the one wich were found in caves by a Egyptian farmer ... but those scrolls showed Jesus in a more human way, he got a women, he smiled, laughed, etc... and didn't do any miracles that were common myths (like stories) at that time...

Exactly;)

As for the issue of pure love.......

kblood
18-08-2007, 10:13 PM
Zietgeist? Are they refering to god as a ghost of time? That would explain some of the insane events in my life, like having memories of things that didnt happen, and things that havent happened. Im trying to get rid of my oneness state so I can return to my normal life before I start working on a "real" job. It really torns up your mind trying to make spells in instants :(

That pitcher of water thing worries me as well... I dont really want to be "the" jesus... isnt there several? I hope there is. Sounds like there is. At least there will be since the god equation have been broken down to data quite well by now. I am trying to figure out what happens with souls entering computers, and I can only hope they retain some personality and essence of their real being. Try looking the the song "Analyze" by Thom Yorke. This song contains secrets about the essence of god, whatever it is. Since this secret is out, we can only try to figure out what to do with or against it. I have a few friends that might be partly affected by this equation that someone solved in some way and was stupid enough to make electronic. Only solace is that it was probably done before he did it as well.

Well... this video is very nice by the way :) Seems quite minor problems though. Guess this machine problem could solve them, if I find a way to use the machinepeople for good deeds of some kind. I guess we can look at it as the "chips" starting to fight back ;) That is what I hope at least. I hope you will all find ways of being immune to mind control. Having a very "active" mind seems to help. Getting sleep with an "active" mind is quite hard though.

Good sumarized research in the video. I hope we become able to identify these new machine people soon. Im trying to... experiment with them, but proving anything at all, especially when it comes to the theory about there being a god is so difficult that I simply wont bother trying.

Thanks for the post :)

bigus_dickus
22-08-2007, 04:35 AM
I don't know if these are the one wich were found in caves by a Egyptian farmer ... but those scrolls showed Jesus in a more human way, he got a women, he smiled, laughed, etc... and didn't do any miracles that were common myths (like stories) at that time...

you are obviously talking about the Nag Hammadi Library (NHL), which is a separate and different set of scrolls from the DSS.

http://www.gnosis.org/library/dss/dss.htm

james777
23-08-2007, 05:05 AM
Astro Theology, as presented by Maxwell, Acharya S, Zeitgeist part 1, etc, does indeed threaten the faith of christians... who have never questioned, that is to say, quested, to really understand their faith

But in fact, in simply deepens the mystery and the marvel of it for those who have truly ears to understand

You're right, but you would have to be blind if you didn't see the 'direct' SLAM against the christian faith

pumma
24-08-2007, 12:46 AM
you are obviously talking about the Nag Hammadi Library (NHL), which is a separate and different set of scrolls from the DSS.

http://www.gnosis.org/library/dss/dss.htm

I think that's the one yes ...

lostinstrangeworld
24-08-2007, 10:17 PM
Gosh....I'd love to study them! So little 'Time', so much to do!!

Perhaps I should try osmosis?:D