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[adbasque]

Consumers in dark over
risks of new light bulbs

I don't know if it has been posted already, but most of you have probably heard of the new "Low" consumption light Bulbs, which are extremely dangerous to our health.

This thread is to let people know and not to use them if possible, I'd rather use candles if I have to.

here is an article



WASHINGTON – Brandy Bridges heard the claims of government officials, environmentalists and retailers like Wal-Mart all pushing the idea of replacing incandescent light bulbs with energy-saving and money-saving compact fluorescent lamps.

So, last month, the Prospect, Maine, resident went out and bought two dozen CFLs and began installing them in her home. One broke. A month later, her daughter's bedroom remains sealed off with plastic like the site of a hazardous materials accident, while Bridges works on a way to pay off a $2,000 estimate by a company specializing in environmentally sound cleanups of the mercury inside the bulb.

With everyone from Al Gore to Wal-Mart to the Environmental Protection Agency promoting CFLs as the greatest thing since, well, the light bulb, consumers have been left in the dark about a problem they will all face eventually – how to get rid of the darn things when they burn out or, worse yet, break.

CFLs are all the rage. They are the spirally shaped, long-lasting bulbs everyone is being urged, cajoled and guilt-tripped into purchasing to replace Thomas Edison's incandescents, which are being compared to sports utility vehicles for their impracticality and energy inefficiency. However, there is no problem disposing of incandescents when their life is over. You can throw them in the trash can and they won't hurt the garbage collector. They won't leech deadly compounds into the air or water. They won't kill people working in the landfills.

More Here (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55213)

I have found this video but it's in French If anyone can find a similar video in English that would be nice.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9ykpm_danger-choquant-des-lampes-economiq_tech

[redskywalker]

I have been shouting about this for years. The stupidity of this decision alone should have shown us across the globe our politicians are insane. The environmental costs of these bulbs is immense. I believe philips have already started making a new incandescnt bulb because this issue has to explode soon. Ordinary bulbs will be illegal in 2 days here:mad: arses! led's here I come :(

[zenith82]

I never really gave this much thought before now thanks for bringing it to my attention. They actually give these "energy saving" bulbs out for free in community centre's etc in my area.

[rodin]

The old New Lamps for Old trick. Its another degeneration vector. These crafty masters of our universe, eh?

[flyermay]

They have been sending them free by mail to our entire neighbourhood last week.

Are they also dangerous just for using them?

[missbehave]

Thanks for the post.

Must read more about it to fully understand (english not my mothertounge) and to let it sink in.
Phew!
Conspiracy-stuff is all new to me, I have been digesting quite alot only the last year since Ive learned about it. Have been learning some about vaccines, and little bit about the monetary system. Now this.

Does one have to become a professor just to make it through the day nowadays or what?

Anyway, many thanks for the thumbs up, really appreciate this forum and its members, this is one main site where I get the news.

Seems they´re attacking us with mercury on all fronts these days:(

Peace!

[adbasque]

They have been sending them free by mail to our entire neighbourhood last week.

Are they also dangerous just for using them?

Yes they are dangerous very, there was an increase of a prostate cancer since they have been introduced, I am sorry guys I couldn't find an English version of that Video but watch it anyway, you'll get a general idea.

When she does the experiment watch how the mercury detector jumps from 1.4 to the end of the screen.

I always said it here that they are dangerous and if you're not sure, when you see a government pushing something very heavily you know it's very bad news for us.

Please spread the word so we can get them all banned.
Did you notice they have stopped selling the old bulbs, they won't give people a choice ;)

These ugly bastards are after our blood.

Believe me they have geared up to kill us, and kill as many as they possibly can.

With all means.

[xpleet]

throw them in the trash can

,or eat them.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Todd Robbins Eats a light bulb on AOSLI! - YouTube

[adbasque]

Thanks for the post.

Must read more about it to fully understand (english not my mothertounge) and to let it sink in.
Phew!
Conspiracy-stuff is all new to me, I have been digesting quite alot only the last year since Ive learned about it. Have been learning some about vaccines, and little bit about the monetary system. Now this.

Does one have to become a professor just to make it through the day nowadays or what?

Anyway, many thanks for the thumbs up, really appreciate this forum and its members, this is one main site where I get the news.

Seems they´re attacking us with mercury on all fronts these days:(

Peace!

You're welcome

They certainly are and we MUST do something and quick, or we are all doomed.

Watch out for the shills now :rolleyes:

[kriss_crow]

They have been sending them free by mail to our entire neighbourhood last week.

Are they also dangerous just for using them?

Yes they are - very strong electromagnetic pollution.
How strong and what sort - unfortunately cant find.
Anyone knows?

[redskywalker]

yep not good to use.

[motleyhoo]

Yes indeed, CFLs come with a downside. But I have been using them in certain lamps in my home for over 10 years and I have not even come close to ever breaking one. And if I did, the last thing I would do is call in a govt hazmat team. LOL!!! I don't who the lady in that article is, but what an idiot!

Unless you get down on the floor and snort the powder from the broken bulb up into your nostrils it's of little danger to you. Get a damp paper towel, wipe it up, and throw said towel in the trash. Easy, peazy.

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[jolinemaria]

Yes they are dangerous very, there was an increase of a prostate cancer since they have been introduced, I am sorry guys I couldn't find an English version of that Video but watch it anyway, you'll get a general idea.

When she does the experiment watch how the mercury detector jumps from 1.4 to the end of the screen.

I always said it here that they are dangerous and if you're not sure, when you see a government pushing something very heavily you know it's very bad news for us.

Please spread the word so we can get them all banned.
Did you notice they have stopped selling the old bulbs, they won't give people a choice ;)

These ugly bastards are after our blood.

Believe me they have geared up to kill us, and kill as many as they possibly can.

With all means.

My French is not that good, but my impression is that she is not messuring mercury levels but the electro magnetic field coming from the light. The report she is showing is about the dangers of ELF (low fequencies) and their connection to cancer.
By which I don't say they don't emmit mercury. I think one should steer away from these lamps as far as possible. For both reasons.

[ge_mike]

The only incandescent bulbs that will disappear from the shelves in the EU in September 2009 are the frosted bulbs and bulbs >= 100 W.

Read all about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs

Until 2012, there is still lots of time to get your lifetime supply of incandescent bulbs. You only have to hurry if you really really want those 100 W babies... :D

And if we need any bulbs at all after 2012, well ... whole different question! ;-)

[1eyeopen]

Yes indeed, CFLs come with a downside. But I have been using them in certain lamps in my home for over 10 years......
.

LOL. Me too. I've used them for about 2 years now and never broke one. Only in certain lamps though. ;)

[the nine]

Consumers in dark over
risks of new light bulbs

I don't know if it has been posted already, but most of you have probably heard of the new "Low" consumption light Bulbs, which are extremely dangerous to our health.

This thread is to let people know and not to use them if possible, I'd rather use candles if I have to.

here is an article



More Here (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55213)

I have found this video but it's in French If anyone can find a similar video in English that would be nice.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9ykpm_danger-choquant-des-lampes-economiq_tech

so, if you accidentally dropped one of these bulbs in a major public building, like the town hall or crown court or a shopping centre, they would have to be cleaned up by haz-mat specialists?

[adbasque]

so, if you accidentally dropped one of these bulbs in a major public building, like the town hall or crown court or a shopping centre, they would have to be cleaned up by haz-mat specialists?

Exactly Nine, just to show how dangerous they are but they don't need to break, it's the electromagnetic charges that it releases while you use them at home.

If a government is pushing some thing you can bet your life that it's for our destruction, especially when they are pushy, like the ID card, the GM food, the global warming, etc etc etc etc too many things to cite.

That's why they kept promoting cereals and many other things, we know why.

[adbasque]

LOL. Me too. I've used them for about 2 years now and never broke one. Only in certain lamps though. ;)

Their real danger is not just when you brake them, they are dangerous when you use them day in day out.

They cause cancer there's a direct link between them and the increase of the prostate cancer.

Do a search and you'll see.

[dude111]

So, last month, the Prospect, Maine, resident went out and bought two dozen CFLs and began installing them in her home.Its a shame she is acting like the programmed robot she is by listening to MSM news!!

[monkeyboy]

your right adbasque people need to know this information i dont know why this information wasn`t made more permanent the last time it came up?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62259

[jp13]

I've been using them for about 5 years now. The main thing I notice is that they are very dull i.e. they don't actually give out that much light, and your/my eye's have to get adjusted to them, and the thing I have noticed since using them is that I hardly ever read a book any more, ansd my eyesight is not bad.

[angelx666]

but how are those lamps are 'environmentally friendly' if mercury isn't biodegradable ??

who gona take care of hazardous waste of it in to the ecosystem ?

maybe someone should ask 'UK environmental agency' under Freedom of Information act '? i got no time

[the nine]

Exactly Nine, just to show how dangerous they are but they don't need to break, it's the electromagnetic charges that it releases while you use them at home.

If a government is pushing some thing you can bet your life that it's for our destruction, especially when they are pushy, like the ID card, the GM food, the global warming, etc etc etc etc too many things to cite.

That's why they kept promoting cereals and many other things, we know why.

I have watched a video of someone who explains that the EMF pollution kicked out by these bulbs, affects the cells of the body allowing disease to emerge.
good news for big pharma!

I dont understand why they would put potential terrorist weapons in the hands of the many

[killmicrosoft]

this is not about light bulbs this has a hidden message

What is the symbol of an idea ?????????

http://www.psfk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/lightbulb-idea1.jpg

don't get any idea's anyone !!!!!!!!!


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[angelx666]

this is not about light bulbs this has a hidden message

What is the symbol of an idea ?????????



hmm, interesting theory, i always knew idea was a bulb, but those bulbs can be new ideas too ?

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:lpl2E3GOhzkXPM:http://www.tradevv.com/TradevvImage/productimages/12V-24V-DC-Compact-Fluorescent-Lamps-DC-CFLs-A165c7.jpg"]http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:lpl2E3GOhzkXPM:http://www.tradevv.com/TradevvImage/productimages/12V-24V-DC-Compact-Fluorescent-Lamps-DC-CFLs-A165c7.jpg

[gripit]

Junk Science: Light Bulb Lunacy

By Steven Milloy

How much money does it take to screw in a compact fluorescent lightbulb? About $4.28 for the bulb and labor — unless you break the bulb. Then you, like Brandy Bridges of Ellsworth, Maine, could be looking at a cost of about $2,004.28, which doesn’t include the costs of frayed nerves and risks to health.

Sound crazy? Perhaps no more than the stampede to ban the incandescent light bulb in favor of compact fluorescent lightbulbs (CFLs) — a move already either adopted or being considered in California, Canada, the European Union and Australia.

According to an April 12 article in The Ellsworth American, Bridges had the misfortune of breaking a CFL during installation in her daughter’s bedroom: It dropped and shattered on the carpeted floor.

Aware that CFLs contain potentially hazardous substances, Bridges called her local Home Depot for advice. The store told her that the CFL contained mercury and that she should call the Poison Control hotline, which in turn directed her to the Maine Department of Environmental Protection.

The DEP sent a specialist to Bridges’ house to test for mercury contamination. The specialist found mercury levels in the bedroom in excess of six times the state’s “safe” level for mercury contamination of 300 billionths of a gram per cubic meter.

The DEP specialist recommended that Bridges call an environmental cleanup firm, which reportedly gave her a “low-ball” estimate of $2,000 to clean up the room. The room then was sealed off with plastic and Bridges began “gathering finances” to pay for the $2,000 cleaning. Reportedly, her insurance company wouldn’t cover the cleanup costs because mercury is a pollutant.

Given that the replacement of incandescent bulbs with CFLs in the average U.S. household is touted as saving as much as $180 annually in energy costs — and assuming that Bridges doesn’t break any more CFLs — it will take her more than 11 years to recoup the cleanup costs in the form of energy savings.

Even if you don’t go for the full-scale panic of the $2,000 cleanup, the do-it-yourself approach is still somewhat intense, if not downright alarming.

Consider the procedure offered by the Maine DEP’s Web page entitled, “What if I accidentally break a fluorescent bulb in my home?”

Don’t vacuum bulb debris because a standard vacuum will spread mercury-containing dust throughout the area and contaminate the vacuum. Ventilate the area and reduce the temperature. Wear protective equipment like goggles, coveralls and a dust mask.

Collect the waste material into an airtight container. Pat the area with the sticky side of tape. Wipe with a damp cloth. Finally, check with local authorities to see where hazardous waste may be properly disposed.

The only step the Maine DEP left off was the final one: Hope that you did a good enough cleanup so that you, your family and pets aren’t poisoned by any mercury inadvertently dispersed or missed.

This, of course, assumes that people are even aware that breaking CFLs entails special cleanup procedures.

The potentially hazardous CFL is being pushed by companies such as Wal-Mart, which wants to sell 100 million CFLs at five times the cost of incandescent bulbs during 2007, and, surprisingly, environmentalists.

It’s quite odd that environmentalists have embraced the CFL, which cannot now and will not in the foreseeable future be made without mercury. Given that there are about 4 billion lightbulb sockets in American households, we’re looking at the possibility of creating billions of hazardous waste sites such as the Bridges’ bedroom.

Usually, environmentalists want hazardous materials out of, not in, our homes.

These are the same people who go berserk at the thought of mercury being emitted from power plants and the presence of mercury in seafood. Environmentalists have whipped up so much fear of mercury among the public that many local governments have even launched mercury thermometer exchange programs.

As the activist group Environmental Defense urges us to buy CFLs, it defines mercury on a separate part of its Web site as a “highly toxic heavy metal that can cause brain damage and learning disabilities in fetuses and children” and as “one of the most poisonous forms of pollution.”

Greenpeace also recommends CFLs while simultaneously bemoaning contamination caused by a mercury thermometer factory in India. But where are mercury-containing CFLs made? Not in the U.S., under strict environmental regulation. CFLs are made in India and China, where environmental standards are virtually non-existent.

And let’s not forget about the regulatory nightmare known as the Superfund law, the EPA regulatory program best known for requiring expensive but often needless cleanup of toxic waste sites, along with endless litigation over such cleanups.

We’ll eventually be disposing billions and billions of CFL mercury bombs. Much of the mercury from discarded and/or broken CFLs is bound to make its way into the environment and give rise to Superfund liability, which in the past has needlessly disrupted many lives, cost tens of billions of dollars and sent many businesses into bankruptcy.

As each CFL contains 5 milligrams of mercury, at the Maine “safety” standard of 300 nanograms per cubic meter, it would take 16,667 cubic meters of soil to “safely” contain all the mercury in a single CFL. While CFL vendors and environmentalists tout the energy cost savings of CFLs, they conveniently omit the personal and societal costs of CFL disposal.

Not only are CFLs much more expensive than incandescent bulbs and emit light that many regard as inferior to incandescent bulbs, they pose a nightmare if they break and require special disposal procedures. Should government (egged on by environmentalists and the Wal-Marts of the world) impose on us such higher costs, denial of lighting choice, disposal hassles and breakage risks in the name of saving a few dollars every year on the electric bill?

Steven Milloy publishes JunkScience.com and CSRWatch.com. He is a junk science expert, and advocate of free enterprise and an adjunct scholar at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268747,00.html

[curtaincat]

all i can say is i hope no-one on here buys these bulbs. i won't. steppe definately won't. i have a certain amount of the usual ones, and will never go to the mercury poison ones. Ever.

i wouldn't be surprised if there will be a turn-around in thinking and they will go back to the good old-fashioned ones, as more and more people are realising these new bulbs are bad for you. !

[harry_88]

Thanks for the post.

Must read more about it to fully understand (english not my mothertounge) and to let it sink in.
Phew!
Conspiracy-stuff is all new to me, I have been digesting quite alot only the last year since Ive learned about it. Have been learning some about vaccines, and little bit about the monetary system. Now this.

Does one have to become a professor just to make it through the day nowadays or what?

Anyway, many thanks for the thumbs up, really appreciate this forum and its members, this is one main site where I get the news.

Seems they´re attacking us with mercury on all fronts these days:(

Peace!

"Does one have to become a professor just to make it through the day nowadays or what?"

Yes, I'm a newbe to these forums and knowledge also and have had similar thoughts.
We live in such a dangerous world, almost every step is dangerous!

[coco]

What's the difference between a CFL and the long tube-style fluorescent lights used in schools and retail stores and private individual's workshops? I really don't know the answer.

Thank you

[wakeuptime]

Thanks for the post. I had no idea they were dangerous but now I've thrown out the one I had and went to buy some of the good old fashioned kind. To my surprise, the store had plenty of them. Maybe the word is getting out.

[adbasque]

Thanks for the post. I had no idea they were dangerous but now I've thrown out the one I had and went to buy some of the good old fashioned kind. To my surprise, the store had plenty of them. Maybe the word is getting out.

Yes, there are a lot of things we don't know, like the new TVs, chek out the flat screen TVs, see how much heat they project forward, the old TVs the heat goes out from the rear, microwaves, lot of things are done secretly, and they are dangerous.

I suggest people replace their TVs with projectors it's the best option, I don't have a TV, I have a projector I have been using it for at least 3 years and it works beautifully.

They are even cheaper than certain TVs :)

You're welcome

[adbasque]

I have watched a video of someone who explains that the EMF pollution kicked out by these bulbs, affects the cells of the body allowing disease to emerge.
good news for big pharma!

I dont understand why they would put potential terrorist weapons in the hands of the many

Hi nine,
I didn't understand what you meant by them putting terrorist weapons in the hand of many, is it because they contain mercury?

The aim is to make the general public sick, and die from cancer mainly.

Did you know that they can cure upto 85% of all cancers? Even if it is caught a bit late.

But they won't!

[adbasque]

Thanks for the post. I had no idea they were dangerous but now I've thrown out the one I had and went to buy some of the good old fashioned kind. To my surprise, the store had plenty of them. Maybe the word is getting out.

You're welcome I have done so on other forums too, in a hope to wake more people up and boycott them along with cereals etc...

Yes please get rid of them especially if you have young children in your house.

[coco]

What's the difference between a CFL and the long tube-style fluorescent lights used in schools and retail stores and private individual's workshops? I really don't know the answer.

Thank you

http://www.gelighting.com/na/home_lighting/ask_us/faq_compact.htm#difference

What's the difference between a compact fluorescent light bulb and a fluorescent bulb?

The primary difference is in size; compact fluorescent bulbs are made in special shapes (which require special technologies) to fit in standard household light sockets, like table lamps and ceiling fixtures. In addition, most compact fluorescent lamps have an "integral" ballast that is built into the light bulb, whereas most fluorescent tubes require a separate ballast independent of the bulb.

I scroogled it.

[paolo]

Full Spectrum light bulbs produce a much better light, at a frequency imitating the light of the sun at noon, which is fine for people with migraine, epilepsy or atopic disease (eczema,asthma etc)who may be particularly sensitive to low energy bulbs, may alleviate SAD in sufferers,contain no mercury and last as long with as low energy usage as conventional low energy bulbs.
This is an advertisement but contains plenty of useful info
http://products.mercola.com/light-bulbs/

The full spectrum bulbs are easily obtained from, Amazon, ebay and plenty of other sources.
You won't find them in the supermarkets. Wonder why!!!!

[dude111]

Yes, there are a lot of things we don't know, like the new TVs, chek out the flat screen TVs, see how much heat they project forward, the old TVs the heat goes out from the rear, microwaves, lot of things are done secretly, and they are dangerous.I think these new flat screen TVs are garbage!!

I prefer the older original style ANALOG TV :)

[adbasque]

I think these new flat screen TVs are garbage!!

I prefer the older original style ANALOG TV :)

Agreed!

I never liked them

[sloloris]

I read somewhere that compact flouresent (soft white/soft mood) lights are used in some medical places as the spectrum of light affects the mood. Flouresents can also be used for growing small plants. Of course be careful handling any kind of bulb.