Postman signing for registered post.

[mark1963]

I had a registered letter from my loan company this morning that was signed for by my postman and then delivered. I have A4V their loan. Does anyone else know about this???

[tien an]

I had a registered letter from my loan company this morning that was signed for by my postman and then delivered. I have A4V their loan. Does anyone else know about this???



Sounds like the Post Office (private company with royal charter), colluding with the government (fiduciary for your 'dead' entity).


Are they (Royal Mail) allowed to do this?


tian an.

[mark1963]

I came home too late to contact them. I will send the proverbial rocket Monday though.

[geewhizz]

I came home too late to contact them. I will send the proverbial rocket Monday though.

My postie does this for me as a favour when I'm not in, whats wrong with it?

[yozhik]

Well, for a start, signing for it is proof of delivery.
How can it be proof of delivery if the person signing isn't the intended recipient?
Unless the postie has legal Power of Attorney, in my opinion, it sounds like mail fraud.

[tien an]

Well, for a start, signing for it is proof of delivery.
How can it be proof of delivery if the person signing isn't the intended recipient?
Unless the postie has legal Power of Attorney, in my opinion, it sounds like mail fraud.

Quite.

tian an.

[tom bombadil]

Hullo! :)

There are two types of regestered post.

One is when the recipiant signs and the other when the posty notes the delivery.

In the first instance, proof of receiving is gained by the signature of the resipiant, the other is from the sig of the posty that the post was delivered, not recived.

Which is yours?


nelly.

[yozhik]

Hullo! :)

There are two types of regestered post.

One is when the recipiant signs and the other when the posty notes the delivery.

In the first instance, proof of receiving is gained by the signature of the resipiant, the other is from the sig of the posty that the post was delivered, not recived.

Which is yours?


nelly.

Then let's hope that all NoUI/CoR senders in the UK have used the correct "registered post" ...
:eek:

[tom bombadil]

:) My point was that it may have been the other.

If I was to send my editing unit by post then I would want it signed for by the man at the door or their employee. If I was to send a dvd in the post that costs the client 50 quid , then the other type is used by me. I dont want my client to be bothered by my post to them in the morning, but I dont want it lost for their sakes either so the posty regesters the delivery.


Nelly.

[stickwhistler]

Signing for by the postman isn't correct procedure!

If the postman signs for it and keeps the post,
you will never know - unless there are consequences
such as billing, or missing payment etc.

There is an Electronic Proof Of Delivery (POD)
via the royal mail website,
where you can track the post i.e. delivered/not delivered,
and see the signature of the person receiving the post.
The POD can be printed, for records or evidence.

http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/personal?pageId=tab_track_rm&catId=500185&mediaId=83900761

I lived in a sequentially numbered street i.e. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.
We once had a new postman who went to number 5 with post,
and then posted an expensive item into number 4,
thinking it was number 3 because most streets run
1,3,5,7,9 etc or 2,4,6,8,10 etc.

He also signed for it, because he couldn't be bothered
to take it back and leave an official note saying it was at the sorting office,
and it was only when I raised a query that it came to light.

Our neighbour was eventually 'found out'
because he tried to 'dispose' of the expensive item in a pub,
and fortunately a family member was there at the time,
and the item returned to me because the neighbour wanted to avoid police involvement.
The POD was nothing like my signature,
and we had witnesses because we were elsewhere the time of the delivery.

We had a chat with the postman,
who then went on a different round
after a complaint was made, and the 'signing for' came to light.
I believe he was lucky to keep his job!

[rosix]

Signing for by the postman isn't correct procedure!

If the postman signs for it and keeps the post,
you will never know - unless there are consequences
such as billing, or missing payment etc.

There is an Electronic Proof Of Delivery (POD)
via the royal mail website,
where you can track the post i.e. delivered/not delivered,
and see the signature of the person receiving the post.
The POD can be printed, for records or evidence.

http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/personal?pageId=tab_track_rm&catId=500185&mediaId=83900761

I lived in a sequentially numbered street i.e. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.
We once had a new postman who went to number 5 with post,
and then posted an expensive item into number 4,
thinking it was number 3 because most streets run
1,3,5,7,9 etc or 2,4,6,8,10 etc.

He also signed for it, because he couldn't be bothered
to take it back and leave an official note saying it was at the sorting office,
and it was only when I raised a query that it came to light.

Our neighbour was eventually 'found out'
because he tried to 'dispose' of the expensive item in a pub,
and fortunately a family member was there at the time,
and the item returned to me because the neighbour wanted to avoid police involvement.
The POD was nothing like my signature,
and we had witnesses because we were elsewhere the time of the delivery.

We had a chat with the postman,
who then went on a different round
after a complaint was made, and the 'signing for' came to light.
I believe he was lucky to keep his job!

this is absolutely disgusting

why on earth is he not charged? imagine if any of us truthers did anything remotely like this by mistake, the cavalry would come running!

[girlgye]

Sounds like the Post Office (private company with royal charter), colluding with the government (fiduciary for your 'dead' entity).


Are they (Royal Mail) allowed to do this?


tian an.

Wow. ROFL. You've really gobbled that freeman board haven't you!!!!:eek:

[girlgye]

My postie does this for me as a favour when I'm not in, whats wrong with it?

Do your own due diligence then come back and tell us.

[merlincove]

Well, for a start, signing for it is proof of delivery.
How can it be proof of delivery if the person signing isn't the intended recipient?
Unless the postie has legal Power of Attorney, in my opinion, it sounds like mail fraud.

i think that the Post Office are officers of her majesty, their vans carry the royal seal, and as a trusted officer arguing any toss with them doesn't hold any water in courts.

If for instance you are hit by a Post Office vehicle, curiering the mail of her maj then no matter who is at fault, the accident is your fault. Or at least it used to be that way.

So, arguing that an officer of the post office in respect of her maj's mail has done something illegal - well there might be a president in their company allowing them to sign for?

Is worth while checking that out, let us know how the proverbial rocket goes OP :D

This has happened to me a few times, altho not recently, as we were on very friendly terms with our old postie - when i mentioned this to another postie she frowned a little and said that it wasn't general procedure and that it was 'a bit naughty.'

If somethin comes from a company that you do not want dealings with, and you refuse to sign, the mail goes back, not good if the postie is then 'forcing' the recipient to recieve against their better judgement / will / acceptance.

Yoz is right, this is fraud.