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metacomet

29-08-2009, 08:19 PM

Gather 'round While I tell you of an account I once heard from the man himself, who had investigated the jungles of Africa and FOUND a living breathing dinosaur. This professor took his story and his piece of evidence around the country giving seminars, and I was priveleged enough to go to one when I was a kid. I have not been able to find him, his name, or his story since, but I KNOW that Behemoth is a well known crypto to this day, and that a supposed Japanese photographer has a photograph.

The Behemoth resides in a lake in the Congo (I believe) and the locals refer to this Dinosaur as Li'kele-bembe (also known as mkole mombo or Mokele-mbembe). I will dig up more info on this cryptid if I can.

First to begin the story: a familiar question opted by another thread:

Could man live with dinosaur? YES. And probably HAS and probably IS CURRENTLY living with dinosaurs on this planet. They are rare specimens but the accounts are there.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iq2vQY1Jeaw/RgrdSPtZx0I/AAAAAAAABFc/twr79gouoiY/s320/dino.jpg

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/mokele3_01.jpg

We see these creatures and we call them sea monsters, or we hear about them from native lore, (the thunderbird, the behemoth). Certain species did survive extinction of the Dinosaurs, Alligators, Turtles... we know this.

But according to the man I heard, there are probably rare specimens that have been alive, and may still be alive.

I once went to a conference of a man who went to see the African Pygmies about their local monster. It was 'Behemoth' - it was a giant dinosaur. When showed a picture of a Brontosaurus (now a Bracchiosaurus (sp?) they said that was Behemoth. In fact, they were so certain that the Bracchiosaurus was their Behemoth that they demanded to know how the western people knew of it...

So they claimed a massive Dinosaur was living in their jungle. They would hear it at night time and it lived in a particular lake that was forbidden to them for a whole generation.

Well, this guy and a small crew of locals and one of his friends went in to the jungle. They approached the lake where the monster was. The locals would go no further. So he and his friend set up camp. They boated out onto the lake and let the water still.

After fifteen minutes, a massive head rose out of the water and looked at them. It was a Dinosaur. They fumbled for their cameras while shouting in excitement and the thing slowly submerged. They paddled back to shore as fast as they can - about to have a heartattack. The camera had no footage except the shaky water after the Behemoth submerged. They were devastated, but hoped to see it again.

They didn't see the thing for another full day. The conditions were miserable (mosquitos, humidity and heat). Basically, they were risking sickness and predators in an area far from help. They knew they couldn't stay long.

They were spending their last night in the area, when they awoke in the middle of the night. The Behemoth was crashing through the forest nearby and bellowing. The man grabbed his audio recorder and pressed record.

He played for us that recording. Whatever the creature was, it was enormous. After every bellow, you could hear a 'clack'. You could hear trees creaking under stress, then cracking and slamming on the ground. You could hear the steps of the Behemoth, it sounded like massive boulders being dropped onto the ground from an inch up. The sounds of this thing bellowing totally washed out all the background noise of the jungle, (which at night, is VERY noisy). The Behemoth walked about like this for a full 3 minutes before 'disappearing' (possibly entering the lake.)

The man took the audio tape back to America and it was examined by several different colleges and professionals: IT WAS AUTHENTIC. No editing was done to the tape, no tampering could be found, and no animal or possible hoax could explain the frequencies present within the Behemoths recording... This was no man made tape, this was not an animal familiar to modern science. And the 'clacking' which followed every bellowing roar was determined to be the sound of the Behemoths massive jaws closing.

This was and is the only modern account I know of where a person saw a dinosaur and had evidence. I have not seen this man or heard of him sense... but the lecture was amazing and apparently he went all around the country sharing this story. : PEOPLE SIMPLY DID NOT BELIEVE HIM. Even AFTER having heard the tape.

The idea that a gigantic Dinosaur was actually alive in the Jungles of Africa seems almost too fanciful and too perfect a setup for a Hollywood movie. But my friends , I do believe it was reality.

This man had everything to lose and nothing to gain from sharing this groundbreaking experience, and I am afraid he both gained nothing and lost everything for sharing it. In any event, I wanted to share it with you. I wish with all my heart that recording had made its way to the internet, but if it did, it gained no notoriety and is impossible to find. I have also failed to ever recall the mans exact name or find mention of him. But his story is still amazing to me. And I will never forget hearing that tape.

metacomet

02-09-2009, 09:54 PM

http://www.unknownexplorers.com/cryptogallery/hybrids/hybridsgallery/mokelembembe/images/mokelembembesmall5.jpg

I found the photograph taken by the Japanese photographer -

http://www.trueauthority.com/cryptozoology/mokjap.gif

Not a very good size... I found another version.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2hfqt1v.jpg

The argument for this footage was that it was a man standing in a boat, or a pair of swimming hippos.

Did some enhancements - Does this look like a pair of swimming hippos?
If it's a man standing at the end of an enormous canoe, why is there no definition of height? There is nothing resembling a standing person, even a crouched person would provide a different form.

Auto-Enhanced Light values:
http://i31.tinypic.com/rbjjfo.jpg

Contrast turned up - no change in lighting values:
http://i30.tinypic.com/154u9ll.jpg

Maximum evaluation of object-
http://i25.tinypic.com/s3elg8.jpg

The following link contains over 12 accounts of expeditions in search of the Behemoth :

Most result in hearing the beast or witnessing it's footprints, some involve actual witnessing of the animal. All three outcomes left conclusive impressions on the explorers that this was a real animal.

http://www.trueauthority.com/cryptozoology/mokele.htm

Today in Africa, in the People's Republic of the Congo, there lies a vast, hot and humid area covered with thick forests and dotted with streams and swamps. Of these swamps, there exists one that is undisputedly the largest in the entire world . . . the Likouala Swamp. Approximately 55,000 square miles, larger than the entire state of Florida, the government has officially declared it 80% unexplored. To the scientific community, this area is as foreign as an entirely new planet.

n 1776, French missionaries passing through the forests reported finding huge footprints in the ground. The clawed prints were three feet in circumference and were spaced about seven feet apart. This would have made the animal as big as an elephant, but it was common knowledge to the locals that the tracks were not from an elephant, since elephants do not posses claws.

In 1932, a British scientist, exploring near the Likouala region where the creatures are said to live, came across some abnormally huge footprints. Later, when he went down one of the rivers in a canoe, he heard strange sounds, but did not see anything.

Coincidentally, that same year the world famous zoologist and biologist, Ivan T. Sanderson, along with animal-trader Gerald Russel, were paddling up the Mainyu River in the heart of western Africa when, according to Sanderson's report:

"The most terrifying sound I have ever heard, which sounded like an on-coming earthquake or an exploding, nearby robot, suddenly greeted us from a large underwater cave."

While the water of the river was boiling and foaming directly in front of their canoe, a darkish, shining lizard-like head suddenly rose from the dark water. They described the head as nearly the size of the head of a fully grown hippo, which sat on a thick, swan-like neck. The enormous neck was turned towards the two men, and for just a few seconds, although it seemed like an eternity, the monster simply stared at Sanderson and Russel. Mr. Sanderson summed up his thoughts with these emphatic words:

"I don't know what we saw, but the animal, the monster, burned itself into my retinas. It looked like something that ought to have been dead millions of years ago. As a scientist, I should have been happy, of course, but this encounter was so frightening, so nasty that I never want to see it again."

^ The above encounter is very similar to that given by the man at the seminar I attended.

AMERICAN EXPEDITION 1920

A 32-men-strong expedition was sent out from the Smithsonian Institution in Washington D.C. After six days, African guides found large, unexplained tracks along the bank of a river and later the team heard mysterious "roars, which had no resemblance with any known animal," coming from an unexplored swamp.

http://www.unknownexplorers.com/cryptogallery/hybrids/hybridsgallery/mokelembembe/images/mokelembembesmall3.jpg

metacomet

03-09-2009, 03:25 PM

http://www.cryptozoology.com/cryptids/mokele.php

Without a doubt, the most tantalizing evidence for the Mokele-mbembe has come in the year of 1992 from a Japanese television crew that was not particularly looking for the animal. Instead, they were shooting a documentary. From a small plane above Lake Tele, while getting aerial shots for the documentary, they spotted something moving about the lake. The cameraman focused, and got something quite extraordinary for about fifteen seconds before the 'thing' plunged back down into the murky lake.

Upon analysis, a black object can be seen, with clearly discernible protrusions above the water. A neck, some suggest. The object is moving at a rapid pace, leaving a V-shaped wake behind it. If one looks for it, they can also see a hump and tail. However, as with most lake monster videos, it is a Rorschach test where one can see whatever he or she wants. Still, because of its protrudances, a crocodile can be ruled out. Its rapid pace also rules out elephant. One thing that it does somewhat resemble is a boat with persons inside it, some say, but its rapid pace and mysterious sinking oppose this explanation.

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/mm-expedition/

The latest expedition to search for the “dinosaurlike” cryptids known by African natives as mokele-mbembe has departed. Milt Marcy, Peter Beach and Rob Mullin left Portland, Oregon for Cameroon on January 10, 2006. They will be teaming up with Pierre Sima to conduct the next phase of the cryptozoological research on the Congo/Cameroon border.

The Milt Marcy Expedition is the fourth such trek to Africa, with the three before this one being lead by William Gibbons. Marcy is an insurance broker (Milt Marcy Insurance) in Portland, Oregon, who has funded the last three expeditions, and will be participating in this one himself as Gibbons cannot go.

The four expeditions have been greatly assisted by the cryptozoology-friendly government of Cameroon (they received all their official documents quickly). Furthermore, Pierre Sima has collected several new reports of Mokele-mbembe activity in the river system which borders the Congo Republic. Ed Holdroyd, an atmospheric scientist, has also helped the expedition by providing some superb high resolution satellite photographs of an undisclosed area of the river system where Gibbons, Marcy, and all believe the animals are currently active.

Mokele Mbembe has become so well known that the government of Cameroon is more than willing to let expeditions in...

I WANT IN!!!

Also as the above excerpt mentions it is no small matter how far technology has advanced between now and the earlier expeditions. In 1992 for instance, satellite technology was a mere shadow of what it is today. Although when it all comes down to it, the thick of a jungle swamp still has all the potential to render technology useless.

biblegirl

15-09-2009, 07:52 AM

http://www.unknownexplorers.com/cryptogallery/hybrids/hybridsgallery/mokelembembe/images/mokelembembesmall3.jpg

wow, i'm guessing this is THE photo?

i want to go on the expedition too :o

metacomet

15-09-2009, 07:56 AM

wow, i'm guessing this is THE photo?

i want to go on the expedition too :o

What are you doin this weekend? :)

Hope you have more than a few pairs of boots.

biblegirl

15-09-2009, 08:03 AM

bsmurph83

17-09-2009, 07:56 AM

Rex Gilroy is an Australian researcher who has written about dinosaurs still being around today in Australia. He had a great article published in Nexus not that long ago (maybe longer than I realise) about people seeing T-Rex-like animals in the outback and dino tracks and such. One expedition was mounted (that I can vaguely recall) in which their dogs would reach a certain point and refuse to go any further, they got weirded out. Wish I could remember more than just this - I can't be stuffed going and finding it, but Gilroy's material looks worth looking into. The Gov has gone to the trouble of sending goofballs posing as telecommunications workers to spy on him at his house! (Though this would be more to do with his research into underground UFO bases in the Blue Mountains area) :eek:

bsmurph83

17-09-2009, 07:58 AM

biblegirl

09-10-2009, 06:39 AM

http://creationwiki.org/images/a/a0/Brachiosaurus.jpg

Job 40:15-24 [the Lord speaks to Job from a whirlwind]

Behold now behemoth, which I made with the; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is the chief in the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. Behold he drinketh up a river and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

apparently some people who cannot fathom the idea of dinosaurs coexisting with man have suggested that this text describes an elephant :rolleyes:.

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/african-elephant2.jpg

the most glaring problem with this is the description of the tail "moving like a cedar"

truth finder

09-10-2009, 10:37 AM

there's also this famous photo of the thing brought up by the japanese fishing boat:

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/zm1a.jpg

i remember reading a rebuttal on this photo explaining how it's really a shark, LOLLLL!!! i'm sorry, but that explanation is utterly ridiculous, even more so than an extinct plesiosaur caught by a fishing boat!!

hey biblegirl,

I know it don't look like a shark, and i also heard it was something from an inside of the whale..
And don't u find it annoying that they find these things, and say where sending it in for DNA samples and we never here anymore about it...
But i realy believe there out there. there are some natives in paupa new guinie who swear they have seen it, it was in a Monster quest episode.

mr sunny

09-10-2009, 03:16 PM

These "monsters" do exist, but if the government did reveal this to the public they would start an event of questioning this in turn may awaken these people into looking deeper, then the government will start losing its hold.

mephibosheth

10-10-2009, 01:43 AM

biblegirl

20-12-2010, 05:59 AM

On the basis of two investigatory expeditions, made in 1980 and 1981, Dr. Roy P. Mackal, a research biologist at the University of Chicago, is convinced of the existence of the legendary monster in the swampy Ubangi-Congo basin of central Africa, described by the Congo pygmies as half-elephant, half-dragon, and much more fearsome than a crocodile, the creature has been dodging hunter-explorers since the start of the 20th century- although reports of something weird in central African rivers and swamps go back to the 1800s.

In 1980 Roy Mackal and James H. Powell, Jr., a crocodile specialist, went deep into the heart of the wild Likouala region to track the tales to their source and try to identify the beast. They arrived at the remote outpost of Impfondo early in February, and although they were appalled by the trackless swamps and jungles that lay ahead, they were heartened to hear locally that the mokele-mbembe was often spoken of as a well-known phenomenon if unfamiliar beast.

One of the older eyewitness reports was given by one Firman Mosomele, who said that about 45 years earlier, when he was a 14-year-old, he had seen the creature while paddling his canoe around a bend on the Likouala aux Herbes River near the town of Epena. He waited only long enough to see a reddish-brown snakelike head and neck about six to eight feet long before he paddled briskly away, but the image was burned on his brain. When shown a book of animal pictures, Mosomele picked a sauropod (or dinosaur) as the creature he had seen.

The next report, by a woman from Epena, confirmed that such a creature was indeed a habitue of that area. Two of the beasts, she said, had recently entered Lake Tele from the Bai River. One had been killed by lakesiders, then cut up and eaten in spite of a local belief that people eating its flesh would soon die.

The explorers and their porters spent most of the rest of the month "slogging" through mokele-mbembe territory, hunting the creature and collecting many more eyewitness accounts. One of the most circumstantial was given by Nicolas Mondongo, a Congolese from the village of Bandeko. During a journey on the Likouala aux Herbes between Mokengui and Bandeko he saw a mokele-mbembe "making the water run backwards as it rose out of the river."
The water at that point was only three to six feet deep, and virtually the whole animal was visible. Mondongo said he saw its back, neck, head, part of a long tail, and short legs. The head was topped with something like a cockscomb. As nearly as he could judge, the length of the creature was 32 feet, about 6 to 10 feet of which were head and neck.

Convinced by such reports that "although rare, rhe mokele mbembes do exist and that they correspond to no other living forms known to science," Dr. Mackal returned to Africa in 1981 on a six-week expedition with a group of French, American, and Congolese scientists. Their foray was highlighted by the discovery of "huge footprints and a wide swath of bent and flattened vegetation. The track led into a river." In size the footprints compared with those of an elephant, according to Dr. Mackal, but the flattened vegetation suggested that the trail had been made by a reptilian creature "taller and larger than any known crocodile."

Dr. Mackal, who is "more convinced now than ever' of the creature's existence, thinks that it inhabits swamps but uses the rivers to facilitate moving about. Further ventures in search of the beast are expected. (Animal Kingdom, 83:4-10, December 1980; The New York Times, October 18 and December 10, 1981)

http://www.paranormalphenomena.com/unexplained-creatures/mokelembembe.html

biblegirl

20-12-2010, 06:04 AM

Of course Hollywood has been there, done that in Baby: The Secret of the Lost Legend (1985):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZ8XKfJWvE

The thing is, for these things to continue living, there must be a thriving population somewhere, not just one or two lurking around in the swamp, unless they live to a hoary old age. When I hear about them coming up from under the lake and underwater caverns, I think that maybe they are wandering out from the underground occassionally. But mind you, 55000 square miles of jungle is probably enough to hide a couple Brachiosaurs.

8)

wow that actually used to be my FAVORITE movie when I was a little girl!! funny thing is i never watched the entire movie or even knew the title of it until now, because we had taped it off the TV and only got part of it :o I'm going to have to watch the whole thing now, although I can already tell the graphics are going to seem cheesy compared to Jurassic Park :D

biblegirl

20-12-2010, 06:24 AM

http://americanmonsters.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Lake_Khaiyr_seamonster19.jpg

This bizarre beast was seen by a team of scientists while grazing along the shoreline of Russia’s volcanic Lake Khaiyr, making this arguably the most significant eyewitness report of a frightening, quasi-prehistoric monster ever recorded.
Dwelling deep within the bowels of the shallow, yet actively volcanic, Lake Khaiyr (also known as Lake Khainyr) — located in the isolated , permafrost ridden Yakutia region in eastern Siberia — is a beast which has stirred both fear and controversy ever since it first reared its head in front of a renowned, Russian biologist and a team of scientists from Moscow State University.
The biologist in question was one Dr. Nikolai Gladkikh, who, in 1964, made the pilgrimage to this remote region in order to sample rare mineral deposits and survey the Yakutia in Siberia. It was in a moment of quiet on the rocky shore of Lake Khaiyr that Gladkikh had the first encounter with this beast.
While most LAKE MONSTER sightings are of vague humps or serpentine necks bobbing in the center of the lake, Gladkikh’s sighting is made more intriguing by the fact that he saw the creature close to the shore and almost entirely above the waterline.
Gladkikh claimed in his account that he had woken early on that misty morning in order to gather water — and enjoy the solitude and placid splendor of a Khaiyr sunrise — when he was confronted by an amazing sight. According to Gladkikh, as he fetched water on the edge of the lake he was shocked to see a small headed, primeval looking animal emerge from the water and begin to feed on the long grass sprouting up along the shoreline.
Gladkikh described the being as a massive, long-necked, blackish-blue, reptilian quadruped with a heavy tail and a lizard-like head with two, tiny supra-orbital horns.
The creature’s most distinguishing attribute, however, was the squat, triangular fin (supported by vertical rays) that ran down the length of its spine, not unlike a dimetrodon.
Gladkikh claimed that he watched as the enormous beast thrashed its tail in the water. Rukosuyev later recorded his report:
“It had a long gleaming neck with a small head. Its body was huge, covered with black-blue skin. There was a big dorsal fin on the back of its body. All of sudden, the animal slid back into the water. Some time later I saw it standing out the water in the middle of the lake. The animal started swinging its long tail to whip the water. The waves were rippling the surface of the lake.”
Wasting no time, the terrified — yet no doubt exhilarated –biologist swiftly made his way back to the base camp in order to alert his teammates about his incredible discovery. Gladkikh, now armed with a rifle, returned to the beach with his fellow scientists in tow, but the only evidence that remained was a large swathe of flattened grass.
His cohorts were understandably dubious concerning the beast he had described, but just when it seemed as if Gladkikh was going to have his vodka ration terminated, the expedition chief, Dr. G. Rukosuyev — along with two of his assistants — claimed that they watched in awe as the very same (or a remarkably similar) life form reemerged in the center of the lake just two days later.
After this second event, Rukosuyev and his men described the animal in much the same way as Gladkikh, only their accounts included the appearance of a distinct dorsal fin. The witnesses all agreed that the monsters epidermis was so black that it almost looked blue.
Although all of the men concurred that the animal in the lake appeared to be of prehistoric biology, there was some dispute between those who believed the beast to be related to the plesiosaur family, those who contended it was a tetrapod (“four-footed” rather than flippered.)
Perhaps the strangest theory of all came from Rukosuyev who speculated that the creature might be a relic ichthyosaur. This seems dubious as the shark-like ichthyosaur did not match any of the eyewitness descriptions, including Rukosuyev’s!
It wasn’t long before word of this enigmatic entity found its way to the press and the scientists’ reports were published in the Komsomolskaya Pravda and the magazine Soviet Life. From there the story took on a life of its own, spreading swiftly across the globe. Sadly, due to the remoteness of Lake Khaiyr (as well as the lack of photographic evidence) it wasn’t long before the public’s interest died down and the legends of this mysterious monster began to fade once again into obscurity.
Skeptics, recognizing the fact that Khaiyr is resting atop an active volcano, have been quick to conclude that most of the monster sightings have probably been caused by sub-aquatic tremors sending a rush of water boiling to the surface. These alleged academics have (of course) offered no explanation as to how a surge of water might resemble a grazing tetra-pod at close range.
Doubters have also claimed that Gladkikh was not a scientist :rolleyes:, but a migrant worker who was hired to help with the expedition. Whether or not Gladkikh had an academic pedigree, the fact remains that Rukosuyev and his comrades also claimed to have seen the same creature. A creature which some have even suggested may be related to the notoriously carnivorous WATER HORSES found throughout Europe.
While skeptics will continue to raise the hoax flag — including the lake’s apparent dearth of fish, which might explain the beast’s penchant for feasting on the sprouts along the shore – one cannot ignore the fact that in the quagmire of the Cold War that permeated the Eastern Block in 1964, almost any event that occurred (or evidence gathered) behind the now defunct Iron Curtain will likely always be shrouded under a veil of contradiction and mystery.
Unfortunately, there seems to be little scientific interest in the case and it would seem that those who continue to dwell near the mist smothered shores of Lake Khaiyr are forced to live not only in fear of the strange (and possibly prehistoric) beast dwelling therein, but also of the churning volcano that lies below the lake itself.
http://americanmonsters.com/site/2010/04/khaiyr-beast-russia/

cathar

20-12-2010, 06:26 AM

I remember reading the Nexus article about 2 years ago...Australia is a HUGE country..

and I believe the story completly,,,,,

shankers

20-12-2010, 04:08 PM

http://americanmonsters.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Lake_Khaiyr_seamonster19.jpg

http://americanmonsters.com/site/2010/04/khaiyr-beast-russia/

Excellent- hadn't heard of this one. Sounds very intriguing and plausible given the remote and unusual region.

shankers

20-12-2010, 04:10 PM

thoughtmage

21-12-2010, 04:45 AM

there's also this famous photo of the thing brought up by the japanese fishing boat:

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/zm1a.jpg

i remember reading a rebuttal on this photo explaining how it's really a shark, LOLLLL!!! i'm sorry, but that explanation is utterly ridiculous, even more so than an extinct plesiosaur caught by a fishing boat!!

I've been mulling over this photo for some time now and I can clearly see a skeletal structure here. The head seems to be supported by a spine, which when followed further down appears to come near a rib cage and what seems like fins. The rest has clearly been fed on by multiple animals over time and general deterioration is also partly responsible, but it appears to be the complete carcass of an animal and not just simply part of a larger creature such as a whale. The shark scenario is also not likely as sharks are obviously not built that way. Largely made from cartiledge, a shark's body is much too blunt to look like that, and the suggestion of a bone structure also discredits the shark theory.

biblegirl

21-12-2010, 07:21 AM

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/3/2/f_facamb1mcc2m_2d839e9.jpg

In 1945 Waldemar Julsrud, a German immigrant and an experienced archeologist, discovered some little clay statues, buried at the foot of El Toro Mountain, near Acambaro, Guanajuato, in Mexico. Near El Toro and at the other side of the town, in the vicinity of Mount Chivo, more than 33,000 figurines made of porcelain were discovered. Similar relics found nearby were associated to the Chupicuaro pre-classical Chupicuaro Culture (800 BC to 200 AD). The figurines are representations of various species of dinosaurs, which are believed to have disappeared 65 millions years ago. The authenticity of Julsrud's large collection was challenged. Many archeologists believe dinosaurs have been extinct for the past 65 million years and man knowledge of them has been limited to the past 200 years. If this is true, man could not possibly have seen and modeled them 2,500 years ago.

http://www.ufoarea.com/main_relics9.html

thanks to chattanova in this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20719&page=3

biblegirl

03-01-2011, 07:41 AM

these footprints are not "new" by any means, but show evidence of dinosaurs + humans coexisting in the same age:

http://saintsagainsttyranny.com/Dino_and_Human_Tracks.jpg

http://saintsagainsttyranny.com/delk-track.jpg

http://saintsagainsttyranny.com/human_footprint_04.jpg

biblegirl

03-01-2011, 07:44 AM

what do you make of these pics :eek:? apparently from the year 1932 taken on a shore in North America

http://saintsagainsttyranny.com/Creature-From-The-Deep-3.png

http://saintsagainsttyranny.com/Creature-From-The-Deep-4.png
http://saintsagainsttyranny.com/amazing_anomalies_on_gods_earth.htm

that's just awesome

metacomet

03-01-2011, 07:49 AM

:D wowww thank you for posting that biblegirl. Lots of great stuff.

I remember seeing a photo of the paluxy river prints at the original presentation as a kid! I believe the guy actually went there and saw the prints.

Really seems like something that is just conveniently ignored, because it would rewrite history. Scary that the world works that way.

As for

http://saintsagainsttyranny.com/Creature-From-The-Deep-4.png

I have definitely never seen that one before. Crypto gold right there!

manxboz

03-01-2011, 05:34 PM

biblegirl

03-01-2011, 07:46 PM

As a big shark fan, that looks like no shark I have seen.

I have a friend who is very much into Crytozoology. He has so much information upon the subject.

Here is his myspace (http://www.myspace.com/the_cryptozoologist) for those interested, he is always willing to talk.

Thanks for the link manxboz :) Yep the shark explanation was really reaching. Can you maybe talk your friend into joining here? The crypto subforum needs some serious help and "new stuff" to keep it going.

For instance on your friend's myspace page he debunked the pterodactyl photo, and I have not seen that debunked yet, but very interesting if Loren Coleman acquired the prop lol.

manxboz

03-01-2011, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the link manxboz :) Yep the shark explanation was really reaching. Can you maybe talk your friend into joining here? The crypto subforum needs some serious help and "new stuff" to keep it going.

For instance on your friend's myspace page he debunked the pterodactyl photo, and I have not seen that debunked yet, but very interesting if Loren Coleman acquired the prop lol.

Wow, the pterodactyl photo is a well known hoax within Cryto circles. I will talk to him and ask if he would like to maybe join and post a few pieces. He is very clued up on all this stuff.

kingmob

08-01-2011, 10:15 PM

There are still a shitload of dinosaurs on planet Earth. They are just underground, and can be seen if one accesses the North Pole.

metacomet

25-01-2011, 08:16 AM

There are still a shitload of dinosaurs on planet Earth. They are just underground, and can be seen if one accesses the North Pole.

Definitely one of the cooler aspects of the Inner Earth stories.