SO, the BNP are a 'respectable party', huh?

[decode reality]

Today I've just read a story about a mixed race girl who was racially taunted so badly by a white boy (who was a pupil in her class) that she tried to committ suicide (where was the school disciplinary procedure in all of this, I wonder?). The story is in this week's Eastern Eye newspaper, part of which reads as follows:

"During the case, it emerged that the boy was a known BNP supporter who actively tried to enlist other youths"

I suppose he learnt all of that bullcrap from his parents, or from some oher "adult". Here is the story as it appeared in the Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5888596/Schoolboy-is-first-convicted-of-racist-harassment-of-classmate.html

And right now I can imagine and ANTICIPATE some forum users ('USERS' being the operative word) reacting "well, what about blacks and asians attacking innocent whites?" Yes, two wrongs do not make a right, it stinks no matter who is doing the crime. But this is always the cop out denial "the bnp aren't racist, I'm no racist" crap of those who follow Griffin. They ought to try telling the girl in the story and her parents that the bnp are respectable and aren't racist.

Well, that covers the bnp demographic......

This is also message to a few self proclaimed "truthers" who possibly think that a story like this doesn't warrant inclusion on this site. Well, I'm sorry but if anything, this has more immediate relevance to most of us than who runs the bloody Federal Reserve, or whatever else people want to navel-contemplate here.

'Truthers'?!? I think LIARS is a better word.

[pinkgeranium]

Bullys are bullys and it is always wrong to project your hatred
on to others and make their life hell.



The BNP represent a growing number of people, Either you believe in free speech or you dont.....!

Making something ilegal does not make the thoughts go away, it just
pushs them underground.....which can make them a bigger danger.

How about we as a nation have an up front, honest, non pc debate about
the issues that lead people to join the BMP.

[tracker]

decode reality ---------------- a while ago you and I fell out on public forum ------------- for which by the way near the end of it you showed an admirable nature of holding out a hand shake to me ------------- so for that I answer this thread -------------with good faith that you and I will not go through the same again . So with all respect I will give you a few facts about this --------and other situations regarding bullying at school --------and how this does not relate to the BNP .

1stly ) Youve got to admit --------you did say that you had got this story from a news paper . You should know better than relying on any truth from any news paper , they work for an agenda , and always have ------however this is not to say that the poor school girl did not get bullied --------I am actually sure that she did .


Today I've just read a story about a mixed race girl who was racially taunted so badly by a white boy (who was a pupil in her class) that she tried to commit suicide (where was the school disciplinary procedure in all of this, I wonder?).

Schools don't punish bullies -------because the system needs them . Not only do bullies supply an endless mountain of income for the law as they grow -----hence police , Dr's , therapists -and later in life -----------more departments because as they grow they get worse ----------but bullied pupils end up needing the same departments / anti bully campaign / Dr's / therapists / drugs -----because of complexes that they end up having -----personality difficulties ----------more self help classes / Dr's / therapists .





"During the case, it emerged that the boy was a known BNP supporter who actively tried to enlist other youths"
.
this racism isnt anything to do with BNP !
I should know --------- I am half German --------and was constantly bullied at school my entire life ---------no one helped ---every one ended up saying surely I was the instigator in some way or another ----------and guess what ?-----------they were all "WHITE" ! None of them were BNP supporters , or National front , yet they all liked madness ( the group ) who by the way had a coloured band player ----------------so ---------------- apparently being racist was out of the question .
thus
children will bully other children -------------not because of bands , or other parties like BNP -------but mainly because their parents were racist ------------or that mummy didn't put her tit in their gob for long enough .
This disgusting behaviour -------------( im sure you agree that it is disgusting ) does not come from some party -------it is implanted and comes from seeds laid at home , and always will do , my son was bullied once or twice years ago , he is half Turkish ------------------ it wasnt his colour that did it ---------it was because the parents of the other boy were just totally useless / always drunk / never knew how to raise kids with out anger . my son at the time was just so gentle ----he became an easy target .
Thus
the colour / race / what ever / hair colour -----------creed / background ------are only excuses used by kids --------because kids are unable to express what it is they really want to say ------so excuses can be found -------------through the reasons named . Im sure this makes sense to you .
thus
BNP ------------has nothing to do with this ------------and don't forget ----------the governments are afraid -----because soon it is election time -------------so they must do all they can to drag other parties through the mud ----------although -------I do not lay claim that the BNP are angels , I know that they wont get my vote ---------------but then ------------neither will all the other parties --------------------Labour has killed millions of people in Iraq------------they weren't white . and conservative are just as bad .




I suppose he learnt all of that bullcrap from his parents, or from some oher "adult". Here is the story as it appeared in the Telegraph:


YES HE DID ! A child would never publicly blame their parents ----------------------come on ----------------wake up .




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5888596/Schoolboy-is-first-convicted-of-racist-harassment-of-classmate.html



its about bloody time though Im sure you agree ----------but why ---------aren't the parents admitting that their child is a product of their own upbringing ? why are they refusing to take even a little responsability here ? maybe -----like the child --------they make excuses .
maybe -----being black ----was an excuse to bully --------------------wonder where he got the habit from -------------for making excuses ?





And right now I can imagine and ANTICIPATE some forum users ('USERS' being the operative word) reacting "well, what about blacks and asians attacking innocent whites?" Yes, two wrongs do not make a right, it stinks no matter who is doing the crime.

I fully agree with you here ----------all bullying and attacking is wrong --------it doesnt matter what excuse one uses .



They ought to try telling the girl in the story and her parents that the bnp are respectable and aren't racist.

Im sure BNP would make a good horror movie if they became the elected party to run this country ------- lets hope that they don't get in --------but if leaders are to blame for other peoples actions ------------------then what about war crimes in Iraq ? Afghanistan / Labia / Falklands ??????????????????????



This is also message to a few self proclaimed "truthers" who possibly think that a story like this doesn't warrant inclusion on this site. Well, I'm sorry but if anything, this has more immediate relevance to most of us than who runs the bloody Federal Reserve, or whatever else people want to navel-contemplate here.

I agree ------this type of story needs more attention than just thing like banks / etc .



My point is this
when concerning racism ---------------I fail to accept that a young boy brought up in the right situation ------would seek acceptance from a party like BNP --------------------just to feel like part of something better .
The home life must have been hell --------for him to seek acceptance from a party like the BNP in the 1st place ----------- if he had a loving home -----he would have never ------------EVER ! considered even listening to the BNP .

it all makes sense decode reality .

bullies will bully any one !
race / creed / colour ------are just excuses for a deeper underlying problem .

thats my idea on it .

Its called

personal experience .

[free thinker]

Taking a step back for a moment, just because he may have supported the BNP...Should it reflect on the BNP anymore than Islamic terrorists supporting the Labour or Conservative Parties.

And if you go one step further, the two main parties both voted for the middle eastern wars, something the BNP were, and still are against.

It's all too easy to jump on the band waggon blaming Political Parties for some things while neglecting to apportioning any blame on the main Parties for what destruction they have cause, for so many.

I do not condone what this little shit has done, BTW.:)

[tracker]

Taking a step back for a moment, just because he may have supported the BNP...Should it reflect on the BNP anymore than Islamic terrorists supporting the Labour or Conservative Parties.

And if you go one step further, the two main parties both voted for the middle eastern wars, something the BNP were, and still are against.

It's all too easy to jump on the band waggon blaming Political Parties for some things while neglecting to apportioning any blame on the main Parties for what destruction they have cause, for so many.

I do not condone what this little shit has done, BTW.:)

yeah ------what ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ also says . it is true though .

[flyboy]

"During the case, it emerged that the boy was a known BNP supporter who actively tried to enlist other youths"

But this is always the cop out denial "the bnp aren't racist, I'm no racist" crap of those who follow Griffin. They ought to try telling the girl in the story and her parents that the bnp are respectable and aren't racist.

Well, that covers the bnp demographic......

.

Here`s an interesting 'demorgaphic' you won`t like. A new guy came to work at our place. Big ugly bald looking fellow. We found out he was a member of the British National Party. mmmm we thought - even though he was proud of it and never tried to hide it. So, time goes by and the guy seems like a decent sort etc. etc. Then one day we meet him out of work with his wife and kids - WIFE BLACK! Kids 4 of them all black -( his ).

Like he told us - He is NOT racist he is Nationalist and proud of it.

Britain and many other countries have had 'multiculturalism' forced down it`s throat against the wishes of the majority of its people.

It`s good for no-one - the BNP are an official Political party. You might not like what they have to say. But an ever increasing number of British citizens do.

And no - I am not a member of any political 'puppet' party - I think most of the people on this forum realise (thanks to Icke) who`s pulling the strings)

[flyboy]

Taking a step back for a moment, just because he may have supported the BNP...Should it reflect on the BNP anymore than Islamic terrorists supporting the Labour or Conservative Parties.

And if you go one step further, the two main parties both voted for the middle eastern wars, something the BNP were, and still are against.

It's all too easy to jump on the band waggon blaming Political Parties for some things while neglecting to apportioning any blame on the main Parties for what destruction they have cause, for so many.

I do not condone what this little shit has done, BTW.:)

Agree

[wise haven]

Good posts Tracker - your dissection makes sense to me.

[tracker]

Good posts Tracker - your dissection makes sense to me.


yeah -----------from my own miandering experiences lol ------and yeah ---just because I dont agree with the thread creator ------youve got to admit --------this subject certainly brings up debate .

It also is a good path finder .

A way ( although probably not intentional ) to bring out what other people know , how much they know , and how ------------if possible --------people can see through the news papers reporting that they ( the repoters ) so lovingly do for their lord and masters --------the NWO bum lickers .

[rosix]

supporting any political party is far from respectable lol

[harry_88]

yeah -----------from my own miandering experiences lol ------and yeah ---just because I dont agree with the thread creator ------youve got to admit --------this subject certainly brings up debate .

It also is a good path finder .

A way ( although probably not intentional ) to bring out what other people know , how much they know , and how ------------if possible --------people can see through the news papers reporting that they ( the repoters ) so lovingly do for their lord and masters --------the NWO bum lickers .

Agreed.
The thread starter is ironically enuf named "decode reality".

[tracker]

Agreed.
The thread starter is ironically enuf named "decode reality".

well spotted .

an enigma ----------- creating -------------an enigma .:cool:

[wise haven]

Here`s an interesting 'demorgaphic' you won`t like. A new guy came to work at our place. Big ugly bald looking fellow. We found out he was a member of the British National Party. mmmm we thought - even though he was proud of it and never tried to hide it. So, time goes by and the guy seems like a decent sort etc. etc. Then one day we meet him out of work with his wife and kids - WIFE BLACK! Kids 4 of them all black -( his ).

Like he told us - He is NOT racist he is Nationalist and proud of it.

Britain and many other countries have had 'multiculturalism' forced down it`s throat against the wishes of the majority of its people.

It`s good for no-one - the BNP are an official Political party. You might not like what they have to say. But an ever increasing number of British citizens do.

And no - I am not a member of any political 'puppet' party - I think most of the people on this forum realise (thanks to Icke) who`s pulling the strings)

Nationalism is the biggest threat to Globalism because it empowers and enables a nation to resist the global takeover.

By erroneously and deliberately creating the perception that nationalism is somehow "Nazism" or "Racist" therefore this form of legitimate political resistance is discredited in the minds of their populations.

Nationalism is just "Us" on a larger scale, big family if you will. Any form of coordinated resistance is a danger to their (TPTB) agenda and will be attacked by any means possible.
It is self evident that the plan for Britain has been to import a foreign population that will water down, divide and spread discord in order to create many social fracture lines that will prevent there ever being one loud, united voice against their disempowering agenda.

The BNP is our only nationalist party - and is, unfortunately, flawed by it's race policies thereby making it vulnerable to attack. Maybe this suits TPTB and makes an uncontrolled opposition slightly controllable. Is that the trap the BNP have fallen into?

We have many options available to take down the Globalists - on the political front we need a strong Nationalist (non race defined) Libertarian party if we are to succeed. All it takes is for one country to do this and the rest of the world will see the shining example and follow suit.......that is why the Globalists are shit scared of nationalism....because once this beacon of Liberty is lit and shining it won't be put out and will start spreading worldwide.

The BNP could be part of this solution if it dropped the race aspect.....which many of it's new supporters do not condone but tolerate because that party is perceived as the only option to defeat the LibLabCon paradigm. Unfortunately the BNP will remain part of the problem until it wakes up to it's unknowing part in the divide and rule strategy of the Marxist/Globalist agenda.

[flyboy]

Nationalism is the biggest threat to Globalism because it empowers and enables a nation to resist the global takeover.

By erroneously and deliberately creating the perception that nationalism is somehow "Nazism" or "Racist" therefore this form of legitimate political resistance is discredited in the minds of their populations.

Yep

Nationalism is just "Us" on a larger scale, big family if you will. Any form of coordinated resistance is a danger to their (TPTB) agenda and will be attacked by any means possible.

Yep

It is self evident that the plan for Britain has been to import a foreign population that will water down, divide and spread discord in order to create many social fracture lines that will prevent there ever being one loud, united voice against their disempowering agenda.

Yep

The BNP is our only nationalist party - and is, unfortunately, flawed by it's race policies thereby making it vulnerable to attack. Maybe this suits TPTB and makes an uncontrolled opposition slightly controllable. Is that the trap the BNP have fallen into?

Yep they have

We have many options available to take down the Globalists - on the political front we need a strong Nationalist (non race defined) Libertarian party if we are to succeed. All it takes is for one country to do this and the rest of the world will see the shining example and follow suit.......that is why the Globalists are shit scared of nationalism....because once this beacon of Liberty is lit and shining it won't be put out and will start spreading worldwide.

The BNP could be part of this solution if it dropped the race aspect

It would help, but with the constant media dumbing down of the population over the last 30 years, there are only a few of us who now 'get it'. I think it`s already too late.


Many well educated 'bright' people are worse than the ever growing number of Eastenders watching sheep. I believe that each year it gets worse and we are heading ultimately towards a coffee coloured nation of controlled robot sheep. And thats not being racist either, it`s just inevitable through media control. It seems almost wrong / racist these days to marry someone of your own skin colour. You see the constant depiction of white kids on tv etc. (everywhere you look) pretending to be 'black' talking with some sort of Jamaican gangster accent while mispronouncing basic English, and that is now cool.(??)

We need some kind of 'big' alternative media to fight mainstream media otherwise we are all doomed (scottish accent - all doooomed:)

All we seem to have is the internet and when that finally gets taken over - with content certificates etc. we will lose that too. (and don`t think 'they can`t cos we won`t let em' mentality will work) Who`s left to stop them. The transformation is almost complete. Brainwashed people in a media controlled country...

[oneup]

"During the case, it emerged that the boy was a known BNP supporter who actively tried to enlist other youths"


And noone here thinks... propaganda?
I think it's quite strange for a newspaper to take notice of the political ideas of this bully.

[synergy777]

the bnp are a nationalist party with racist undertones.

the bnp are controlled by the elite, why,

in order to make nationalism appear bad, thus making our move into a super state european union easier, its was hitlers dream, a eu super state.

what we need is a true nationalist party, that does not harbour racist undertones like the bnp.

the bnp is being used to discredit the genuine need for a nationalistic party. nick griffin, and his family/dad, have good links to freemasonary/elite. they are an elite pawn, controlled oppostion.

i'm of indian heritage, born and bred in the england. i love england, and i want out of the european union, i want controlled immigration, i want a better england.

the only party i can vote for is ukip.

every country should have sovereignity, the abilty to govern itself, to determine its destiny, to safeguard equality and liberty for its people.

[flyboy]

the bnp are a nationalist party with racist undertones.

the bnp are controlled by the elite, why,

in order to make nationalism appear bad, thus making our move into a super state european union easier, its was hitlers dream, a eu super state.

what we need is a true nationalist party, that does not harbour racist undertones like the bnp.

the bnp is being used to discredit the genuine need for a nationalistic party. nick griffin, and his family/dad, have good links to freemasonary/elite. they are an elite pawn, controlled oppostion.

i'm of indian heritage, born and bred in the england. i love england, and i want out of the european union, i want controlled immigration, i want a better england.

the only party i can vote for is ukip.

every country should have sovereignity, the abilty to govern itself, to determine its destiny, to safeguard equality and liberty for its people.

UKIP - the only choice really (if you can be bothered to vote)

http://www.ukip.org/media/_leader/billboard.gif

http://blog.project76.tv/ukipbollocks.gif

[decim]

The UK contribution to the eu is to rise by 60% next year, your 'poster' requires an update.
£6.4 Billion a year is the new 'official' figure.
http://www.ukip.org/media/_leader/billboard.gif

[kanz]

Bullys are bullys and it is always wrong to project your hatred
on to others and make their life hell.



The BNP represent a growing number of people, Either you believe in free speech or you dont.....!

Making something ilegal does not make the thoughts go away, it just
pushs them underground.....which can make them a bigger danger.

How about we as a nation have an up front, honest, non pc debate about
the issues that lead people to join the BMP.

Couldn't agree more, if you silence people , you can only expect to get violence.

[flyboy]

The UK contribution to the eu is to rise by 60% next year, your 'poster' requires an update.
£6.4 Billion a year is the new 'official' figure.
http://www.ukip.org/media/_leader/billboard.gif

Can`t attach can only link and could only find these quickly...- I am up on what you say - 2.2 billion a year for EU propaganda alone too. Just to make sure the sheep obey...

Mind you - I`m starting to sound like a ukip member. I`m not, its just that if they were to win in a GE (ha) how could they go back on pulling out of the eu? Difficult - so at least we would be out.

[meksar]

The BNP have basically signed their death warrant, it is another form of Masonic/Zionist deception cloaked as nationalism.

[free thinker]

As a native of this Island (as native as you cant get, anyway) i will fight tooth and nail, not to have Islamic rule in the Country & i dont care what toes this treads on... tough shit if thats a problem.

[flyboy]

As a native of this Island (as native as you cant get, anyway) i will fight tooth and nail, not to have Islamic rule in the Country & i dont care what toes this treads on... tough shit if thats a problem.

Great post - If you have not seen this guy before you really need to. Funny too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

[free thinker]

Great post - If you have not seen this guy before you really need to. Funny too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

Like his take on Islam..:) And of course, essentially he's right...because some book says so...it must be true..lol:rolleyes:

[flyboy]

Like his take on Islam..:) And of course, essentially he's right...because some book says so...it must be true..lol:rolleyes:

It`s funny now but soon what he says will come is going to come. Sharia law? All over the uk, Europe, the world...

Europe non muslim birthrate averaging somewhere around 1.4

Muslims averaging around 8.1 !!!!

2020 were outnumbered they can do what the fu*k they like - scary!

[wise haven]

As a native of this Island (as native as you cant get, anyway) i will fight tooth and nail, not to have Islamic rule in the Country & i dont care what toes this treads on... tough shit if thats a problem.

Don't fall into the trap of fighting the symptom instead of the root cause of the problem. If you fight the symptom you will be distracted and diverted away from the solution.

[free thinker]

Don't fall into the trap of fighting the symptom instead of the root cause of the problem. If you fight the symptom you will be distracted and diverted away from the solution.

Not sure i get your drift?

[redskywalker]

can we stop advertising the fucking bnp in here! stop posting shit about them and stop putting their fucking name on thread titles. The fucked up ignorant bigots in here love it, but we decent folks bastardwell don't. FOR FUCKS SAKE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH OUT. WE ALL KNOW THE FUCKERS ARE SCUM!:mad:

[wise haven]

can we stop advertising the fucking bnp in here! stop posting shit about them and stop putting their fucking name on thread titles. The fucked up ignorant bigots in here love it, but we decent folks bastardwell don't. FOR FUCKS SAKE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH OUT. WE ALL KNOW THE FUCKERS ARE SCUM!:mad:

Not sure what you mean redsky.... - say what you mean :D

Seriously..... I know what you mean but it is a subject that needs to be played through otherwise we will never get the real message.

[mrmoney]

I can't tell you whether Nick Griffin is as evil as his supporters, but every member of the BNP I've met has been a two-faced Nazi who will claim anything to get supporters.

Griffin says that he could never manage to kick all non-natives out the country, as much as he may want to. But what he's never explained is what's wrong with having foreign people living here. It's just BS. Look on their website. They basically have no policies, no explanation. They keep information to a minimum, because they have no clear-cut information. It's all blatant Nazi lies.

[free thinker]

can we stop advertising the fucking bnp in here! stop posting shit about them and stop putting their fucking name on thread titles. The fucked up ignorant bigots in here love it, but we decent folks bastardwell don't. FOR FUCKS SAKE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH OUT. WE ALL KNOW THE FUCKERS ARE SCUM!:mad:

http://danoday.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/PDHeadInSand.gif

[hawks29]

Great post - If you have not seen this guy before you really need to. Funny too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

This guy is fooking funny!!. Cheers for the link

[wise haven]

I can't tell you whether Nick Griffin is as evil as his supporters, but every member of the BNP I've met has been a two-faced Nazi who will claim anything to get supporters.

Griffin says that he could never manage to kick all non-natives out the country, as much as he may want to. But what he's never explained is what's wrong with having foreign people living here. It's just BS. Look on their website. They basically have no policies, no explanation. They keep information to a minimum, because they have no clear-cut information. It's all blatant Nazi lies.

My experience is the opposite.

Most of the people who have expressed a desire to vote BNP have, 100%, been supporters of the BNP apart from their views/stance on race. In fact I would be bold enough to state - as fact - that the only thing stopping a massive majority of people voting for the BNP is the issue of excluding people because of racial origin.

[hawks29]

I cant stand the bnp, the raly the other day with the girl burning the doll and the hitler salutes says it all really

[wise haven]

I cant stand the bnp, the raly the other day with the girl burning the doll and the hitler salutes says it all really

I suggest you get the facts about those incidents before you form your opinion. You will be surprised when you get the facts.
Don't rely on the MSM when it comes to gathering the facts.

[rodin]

My own feelings about the BNP is that it attracts a lot of people more sensible than MSM gives them credit for. However I do not trust them. Actually I trust no-one that cannot lead from the front - starting with exposing the blatant lie of 911. (And even after that they have to pass several litmus tests)

[mynameis]

I suggest you get the facts about those incidents before you form your opinion. You will be surprised when you get the facts.
Don't rely on the MSM when it comes to gathering the facts.

Yes the video doesn't speak any better for the BNP socialites. You might as well call them Hitler youth scouts or something. Is that supposed to be a black marshmellow or a golliwog?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWqR7xtWExM

[themime]

Like it or not a lot of middle class folks vote BNP.

The majority are probably just sick of watching Britain turn into a crap hole under the main parties or tired of having multiculturalism forced on them.

Race may not be the main criteria for them but culture is.

[harry_88]

My experience is the opposite.

Most of the people who have expressed a desire to vote BNP have, 100%, been supporters of the BNP apart from their views/stance on race. In fact I would be bold enough to state - as fact - that the only thing stopping a massive majority of people voting for the BNP is the issue of excluding people because of racial origin.

My understanding is that the BNP base their policies on ethnic origins rather than racial. The difference is perhaps too subtle for most at this point in time to grasp due to the conditioning we are all subjected to from birth in the UK.
It is quite an acceptable position to have other than here in the UK.
For example; if your parents are white, British and give birth to you in Pakistan most people, rightly, will still regard you as being British due to ethnic origin.
However when Pakistani parents have a child in Britain those who regard the child as Pakistani are regarded as - being racist.
On a higher level we are actually spirit soul and have nothing to do with these temporary bodily designations - but that is another discussion.

[anthony65]

It`s funny now but soon what he says will come is going to come. Sharia law? All over the uk, Europe, the world...

Europe non muslim birthrate averaging somewhere around 1.4

Muslims averaging around 8.1 !!!!

2020 were outnumbered they can do what the fu*k they like - scary!

Could you share your sources on that, because I don't believe these figures.

8.1 per muslim woman in Europe?

The article below shows that muslim women in countries like Holland, Austria and Germany do have more babies, but that the number per woman is declining and is much lower than the 8.1 figure you give.

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2008/muslimsineurope.aspx

[free thinker]

http://forum.bnp.org.uk/


Some may find the above interesting...:);)

[rydeon]

Today I've just read a story about a mixed race girl who was racially taunted so badly by a white boy (who was a pupil in her class) that she tried to committ suicide (where was the school disciplinary procedure in all of this, I wonder?). The story is in this week's Eastern Eye newspaper, part of which reads as follows:

"During the case, it emerged that the boy was a known BNP supporter who actively tried to enlist other youths"

I suppose he learnt all of that bullcrap from his parents, or from some oher "adult". Here is the story as it appeared in the Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5888596/Schoolboy-is-first-convicted-of-racist-harassment-of-classmate.html

And right now I can imagine and ANTICIPATE some forum users ('USERS' being the operative word) reacting "well, what about blacks and asians attacking innocent whites?" Yes, two wrongs do not make a right, it stinks no matter who is doing the crime. But this is always the cop out denial "the bnp aren't racist, I'm no racist" crap of those who follow Griffin. They ought to try telling the girl in the story and her parents that the bnp are respectable and aren't racist.

Well, that covers the bnp demographic......

This is also message to a few self proclaimed "truthers" who possibly think that a story like this doesn't warrant inclusion on this site. Well, I'm sorry but if anything, this has more immediate relevance to most of us than who runs the bloody Federal Reserve, or whatever else people want to navel-contemplate here.

'Truthers'?!? I think LIARS is a better word.

Mods, this belongs in the rants section. It's a classic case of media hyperbole of a newstory being blown out of proportion and the OP making a song and dance over human nature.
I notice when someone rants against the BNP it stays on open forum, yet when a defensive BNP thread starts, it gets shut-down into the rants section.

[yozhik]

Taking a step back for a moment, just because he may have supported the BNP...Should it reflect on the BNP anymore than Islamic terrorists supporting the Labour or Conservative Parties.

And if you go one step further, the two main parties both voted for the middle eastern wars, something the BNP were, and still are against.

It's all too easy to jump on the band waggon blaming Political Parties for some things while neglecting to apportioning any blame on the main Parties for what destruction they have cause, for so many.

I do not condone what this little shit has done, BTW.:)

What he said.

Just another "all BNP supporters are bastards" beat up by the MSM.

How many convicted paedophiles, murderers or rapists voted for Labour or the Tories?

[rodin]

What he said.

Just another "all BNP supporters are bastards" beat up by the MSM.

How many convicted paedophiles, murderers or rapists voted for Labour or the Tories?

How many paedophiles, murderers or rapists are IN Labour or the Tories?

[teardropexplodes]

http://www.dragz.karoo.net/mp3/billy-brit.mp3


Everything any intelligent being needs to know about this disgustin zionist party.

Taken from the BNP website aimed at children.

[free thinker]

How many paedophiles, murderers or rapists are IN Labour or the Tories?

Errrmmm, most! :D

[wise haven]

My understanding is that the BNP base their policies on ethnic origins rather than racial. The difference is perhaps too subtle for most at this point in time to grasp due to the conditioning we are all subjected to from birth in the UK.
It is quite an acceptable position to have other than here in the UK.
For example; if your parents are white, British and give birth to you in Pakistan most people, rightly, will still regard you as being British due to ethnic origin.
However when Pakistani parents have a child in Britain those who regard the child as Pakistani are regarded as - being racist.
On a higher level we are actually spirit soul and have nothing to do with these temporary bodily designations - but that is another discussion.

You're right, this difference is much too subtle to be acknowledged never mind understood by many in the British Isles.

Apart from the alleged racism of the BNP the remainder of their manifesto is pretty sound. I would suggest we all join the BNP and by force of numbers force a change in their ethnic origin policy thereby creating a very credible threat to the three amigo parties.

Without that one nasty little problem - people would flock to the BNP and wipe the floor with the rest of the political establishment................maybe that is what the fear is - what if the BNP became acceptable? Throw away that one controversial policy and they would be unstoppable overnight.

[flyboy]

Like it or not a lot of middle class folks vote BNP.

The majority are probably just sick of watching Britain turn into a crap hole under the main parties or tired of having multiculturalism forced on them.

Race may not be the main criteria for them but culture is.

That is the nail whacked firmly on the head

[mrmoney]

My experience is the opposite.

Most of the people who have expressed a desire to vote BNP have, 100%, been supporters of the BNP apart from their views/stance on race. In fact I would be bold enough to state - as fact - that the only thing stopping a massive majority of people voting for the BNP is the issue of excluding people because of racial origin.

But how can you ignore that he would like to see non-natives booted out the country, yet he gives no logical reason why that would do anything? I mean, this is one of the main issues he is concerned with, yet he never even explains the merits of it. That is the definition of a two-faced liar.

[wise haven]

But how can you ignore that he would like to see non-natives booted out the country, yet he gives no logical reason why that would do anything? I mean, this is one of the main issues he is concerned with, yet he never even explains the merits of it. That is the definition of a two-faced liar.

If non natives are deliberately trying to stir up shit in this country why should they be tolerated?

People wanting to live in the UK have a choice whether they come here or not...if they don't like what we are why come here? and why should we change to accomodate them?

I wouldn't ever consider moving to Saudi Arabia because I wouldn't want to conform or comply with their laws - therefore I don't go there.

My understanding of the BNP's position on non natives is that if they wish to return to their countries of origin because they don't feel happy with our laws or culture they will be financially assisted to leave (with consent). It makes sense to me - because they may have come here under false assumptions and find they do not feel welcome or compatible with the native culture - but find themselves financially unable to leave.

Talking logically - why emigrate to a country with a culture you don't don't respect or want to integrate into? The only logical reason would be to take advantage of it's economic advantages and at the same time try to mould that country into a facsimile of your country of origin. That, to me, is nothing more than empire building and exploitation - something Britain has been labelled with in the past. Sounds like the pan calling the kettle black, in my opinion.

Immigrants of all and any racial or ethnic origin should come to Britain and make a commitment to integrate with it's existing population, culture and values or not come at all.
Is that such an unreasonable expectation?:)

After all, when I invite a guest into my house, I don't expect them to dictate their house rules and customs to me, their humble and accomodating host.

[couchtripper]

Here`s an interesting 'demorgaphic' you won`t like. A new guy came to work at our place. Big ugly bald looking fellow. We found out he was a member of the British National Party. mmmm we thought - even though he was proud of it and never tried to hide it. So, time goes by and the guy seems like a decent sort etc. etc. Then one day we meet him out of work with his wife and kids - WIFE BLACK! Kids 4 of them all black -( his ).

Like he told us - He is NOT racist he is Nationalist and proud of it.

I don't believe that for a minute - the reason being that in almost every place I've seen this topic debated there is someone who brings up the same, or very similar, story.

What kind of man who respects his wife joins a party which excludes her purely on the colour of her skin? If this mythical character doesn't care about her racial background then why join a group which does?

[wise haven]

I don't believe that for a minute - the reason being that in almost every place I've seen this topic debated there is someone who brings up the same, or very similar, story.

What kind of man who respects his wife joins a party which excludes her purely on the colour of her skin? If this mythical character doesn't care about her racial background then why join a group which does?

Someone who doesn't see the solution in any of the mainstream parties and is prepared to compromise until a better alternative comes along.

I know of people, brown skinned types, who privately support the BNP even though they would not be allowed membership.

Another inconvenient truth I'm afraid.

[snapdragon]

I used to be in the BNP before MI5? :cool: took over:eek:, and can assure you that many good and decent coloured folk support it;) (in the days when it was anti-establishment and anti-zionist rather than purely anti-islmaic rabble rousers for the zionists and establishment it once so strongly opposed):confused:
I have shaken a hand with many coloured folk when canvassing, many who say they came to Britain for what it was not what it has become. I remember one brave Sikh Indian who lost his teaching job in Brum because be publicly defended the BNP, he also had his windows smashed by hate-filled white lefties. That's more than most people will do, who think watching TV and grumbling is 'doing their bit'.

[couchtripper]

Someone who doesn't see the solution in any of the mainstream parties and is prepared to compromise until a better alternative comes along.

Another inconvenient truth I'm afraid.

If you put your politics before your wife then you're no man and you certainly have no respect for her. And if that's the case then using this example in defence of the racist scum BNP is insidious and deceptive.

The fact that some non-white people are into the politics of the gutter is no surprise - there are famous photos of black nazis in America sitting at KKK rallies.

[wise haven]

If you put your politics before your wife then you're no man and you certainly have no respect for her. And if that's the case then using this example in defence of the racist scum BNP is insidious and deceptive.

The fact that some non-white people are into the politics of the gutter is no surprise - there are famous photos of black nazis in America sitting at KKK rallies.

Maybe it is a case of putting common sense logic before an emotional knee jerk reaction plus adding in a bit of forethought rather than existing in the moment.

The biggest contributor to racial disharmony in this country is the multi-cultural philosophy - so many people of all races and ethnic backgrounds have become embattled, embittered and in conflict because of this nonsense propoganda.

This guy know that his wife and children are more at risk of violent action because of the lunacy being promoted in Britain. If we had true equality of race in the UK none of this would happen - there would be no conflict.

The sad thing is that the bodies set up to supposedly promote equality do nothing more than generate conflict.

Your use of the NAZI analogy is wearisome and pathetic - change the record. Most of us aren't stupid enough to fall for that approach....which insults our intelligence.

There are racists within the BNP, same as there are racists within all political communities. Racism comes in many forms and is evident in all cultures, societies and races - so don't give me the bleeding heart crap.

Get over it - grow up and open your mind enough to realise there is always a bigger picture than the one sold to you by emotion sucking propoganda.

[flyboy]

I don't believe that for a minute - the reason being that in almost every place I've seen this topic debated there is someone who brings up the same, or very similar, story.

What kind of man who respects his wife joins a party which excludes her purely on the colour of her skin? If this mythical character doesn't care about her racial background then why join a group which does?

I can guarantee you this is 100% true. No -one was more shocked than we were. But belive it or not it is true.

[flyboy]

If you put your politics before your wife then you're no man and you certainly have no respect for her. And if that's the case then using this example in defence of the racist scum BNP is insidious and deceptive.

The fact that some non-white people are into the politics of the gutter is no surprise - there are famous photos of black nazis in America sitting at KKK rallies.

what party is not politics of the gutter as you call it?

[teardropexplodes]

what party is not politics of the gutter as you call it?

Of course they're all the same. But we're not talking about other parties here... we're talking about the BNP. Such arguments are utterly devoid of any intellectual merit.

[harry_88]

If non natives are deliberately trying to stir up shit in this country why should they be tolerated?

People wanting to live in the UK have a choice whether they come here or not...if they don't like what we are why come here? and why should we change to accomodate them?

I wouldn't ever consider moving to Saudi Arabia because I wouldn't want to conform or comply with their laws - therefore I don't go there.

My understanding of the BNP's position on non natives is that if they wish to return to their countries of origin because they don't feel happy with our laws or culture they will be financially assisted to leave (with consent). It makes sense to me - because they may have come here under false assumptions and find they do not feel welcome or compatible with the native culture - but find themselves financially unable to leave.

Talking logically - why emigrate to a country with a culture you don't don't respect or want to integrate into? The only logical reason would be to take advantage of it's economic advantages and at the same time try to mould that country into a facsimile of your country of origin. That, to me, is nothing more than empire building and exploitation - something Britain has been labelled with in the past. Sounds like the pan calling the kettle black, in my opinion.

Immigrants of all and any racial or ethnic origin should come to Britain and make a commitment to integrate with it's existing population, culture and values or not come at all.
Is that such an unreasonable expectation?:)

After all, when I invite a guest into my house, I don't expect them to dictate their house rules and customs to me, their humble and accomodating host.

Agreed.
Some that are born here identify themselves as British, much the same as the ethnic British. They just have a different colour of skin. For them to return to their ethnic roots would be too difficult cos of the heat and cultural differences etc. That's why the proposed BNP re-patriation schemes are voluntary so as to not cause any unnecessary hardship.
There are a lot who resent being here and would be glad of any assistance to get out. Most ethnic British I know would be happy to see them go.

[harry_88]

Someone who doesn't see the solution in any of the mainstream parties and is prepared to compromise until a better alternative comes along.

I know of people, brown skinned types, who privately support the BNP even though they would not be allowed membership.

Another inconvenient truth I'm afraid.

Agreed, I also.
In fact it was an Indian who recommended the BNP web-site to me. Prior to that I only knew the lies that I had read in the media.

[ibaster]

Nationalism and racism go hand in hand.

[free thinker]

Maybe it is a case of putting common sense logic before an emotional knee jerk reaction plus adding in a bit of forethought rather than existing in the moment.

The biggest contributor to racial disharmony in this country is the multi-cultural philosophy - so many people of all races and ethnic backgrounds have become embattled, embittered and in conflict because of this nonsense propoganda.

This guy know that his wife and children are more at risk of violent action because of the lunacy being promoted in Britain. If we had true equality of race in the UK none of this would happen - there would be no conflict.

The sad thing is that the bodies set up to supposedly promote equality do nothing more than generate conflict.

Your use of the NAZI analogy is wearisome and pathetic - change the record. Most of us aren't stupid enough to fall for that approach....which insults our intelligence.

There are racists within the BNP, same as there are racists within all political communities. Racism comes in many forms and is evident in all cultures, societies and races - so don't give me the bleeding heart crap.

Get over it - grow up and open your mind enough to realise there is always a bigger picture than the one sold to you by emotion sucking propoganda.

For example....> http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79709

[shearer318]

Everyone here who is anti-BNP please read the following:

The BNP is called racist and fascist by many who haven't bothered researching properly into the BNP's true beliefs.

Racism = Discriminating against certain people because of their ethnic background.
The BNP have never said that foreigners of any sort cannot live in Britain, so long as they abide by our culture and our ways of "democratic freedom" (if it could be called that these days!)

Fascism = authoritarian governing, where no choices are allowed to be made up by the people. Only the government have control and will use their power to fight the weaker nations to force them to follow their oppressive beliefs
The BNP wouldn't have got anywhere without dedicating their whole existence to the people who support it, they would be shooting themselves in the foot later if they ever turned against them. And secondly, the BNP has no intentions of forcing their beliefs onto others, they want an independent, unique Britain.

So before believing everything the establishment-funded media tells you, look into the BNP's actual policies and you'll see that the BNP want nothing but a better tomorrow for Britain.

What sense does it make to vote for a party which has no interest in the people of it's own country? This is Britain, so give the power to a party which wants only the best for the British people... Why would you want anything else?

[anthony65]

Everyone here who is anti-BNP please read the following:

The BNP is called racist and fascist by many who haven't bothered researching properly into the BNP's true beliefs.

Racism = Discriminating against certain people because of their ethnic background.
The BNP have never said that foreigners of any sort cannot live in Britain, so long as they abide by our culture and our ways of "democratic freedom" (if it could be called that these days!)

Fascism = authoritarian governing, where no choices are allowed to be made up by the people. Only the government have control and will use their power to fight the weaker nations to force them to follow their oppressive beliefs
The BNP wouldn't have got anywhere without dedicating their whole existence to the people who support it, they would be shooting themselves in the foot later if they ever turned against them. And secondly, the BNP has no intentions of forcing their beliefs onto others, they want an independent, unique Britain.

So before believing everything the establishment-funded media tells you, look into the BNP's actual policies and you'll see that the BNP want nothing but a better tomorrow for Britain.

What sense does it make to vote for a party which has no interest in the people of it's own country? This is Britain, so give the power to a party which wants only the best for the British people... Why would you want anything else?

Many of us have researched.

The BNP was founded and led by John Tyndall, a man who liked to dress up as a nazi.

The BNP is now led by Nick Griffin who spoke to a group of white supremacists a few years ago and told his audience that the BNP must change its language to gain wider appeal while retaining their core aims... "perhaps one day we will control the media and the british people will say let's throw every one of them out..." or something similar.

We've seen and heard Billy Brit the racist shit who is bizarrely, embarrassingly bad.

We've seen that Nick Griffin's father is a very high ranking freemason.

[free thinker]

Nationalism and racism go hand in hand.

Is this just your opinion, or do you have some conclusive proof?

[grachtengordel]

[B]Fascism = authoritarian governing,

you are wrong. Look it up. U.k. is a fascist state.

Fascism = corporatism

the corporations run the country through the 'government' who is subservient to the corporations, thus by default , we are a fascist state

[gremlin]

well said:D

[grachtengordel]

Maybe it is a case of putting common sense logic before an emotional knee jerk reaction plus adding in a bit of forethought rather than existing in the moment.

I would be suspicious of anyone who exalts themselves as "wise".
wisdom does not have to advertise

If non natives are deliberately trying to stir up shit in this country why should they be tolerated?

"non-natives" ?

where are YOU from? oh 'wise' man

what colour is your hair, what colour your eyes? better not be different from mine or I will run you out of MY land.

[shearer318]

Well I have brown hair and brown eyes. I'm 7/8 scottish and 1/8 English... Still it's racist of you to say that just because people have to be similar skin, hair and eye colour as you (such as the Arian race, which many of you will know about!)

But that isn't what the BNP stands for, they have said time after time. They do not discriminate against races, as long as people living in Britain abide by British culture and respect British rights to jobs. (Which is perfectly fair considering they're guests and should wait their turn before earning from a foreign country.)

That really is all the 'racism' there is about the BNP, whether the media exaggerate that into much more or not.
Other than wanting British culture and independence the BNP have no racially discriminating qualities. The rest of their policies are based on common sense and when people are asked in the street "What do you think is the most sensible way to solve...?" And the answer you would get from the British population, is the same answer you will find within the BNP.

The BNP want what's right and sensible for Britain and think the same as the rest of the British public.

[melinda980]

Today I've just read a story about a mixed race girl who was racially taunted so badly by a white boy (who was a pupil in her class) that she tried to committ suicide (where was the school disciplinary procedure in all of this, I wonder?). The story is in this week's Eastern Eye newspaper, part of which reads as follows:

"During the case, it emerged that the boy was a known BNP supporter who actively tried to enlist other youths"

I suppose he learnt all of that bullcrap from his parents, or from some oher "adult". Here is the story as it appeared in the Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5888596/Schoolboy-is-first-convicted-of-racist-harassment-of-classmate.html

And right now I can imagine and ANTICIPATE some forum users ('USERS' being the operative word) reacting "well, what about blacks and asians attacking innocent whites?" Yes, two wrongs do not make a right, it stinks no matter who is doing the crime. But this is always the cop out denial "the bnp aren't racist, I'm no racist" crap of those who follow Griffin. They ought to try telling the girl in the story and her parents that the bnp are respectable and aren't racist.

Well, that covers the bnp demographic......

This is also message to a few self proclaimed "truthers" who possibly think that a story like this doesn't warrant inclusion on this site. Well, I'm sorry but if anything, this has more immediate relevance to most of us than who runs the bloody Federal Reserve, or whatever else people want to navel-contemplate here.

'Truthers'?!? I think LIARS is a better word.

Racial hatred is destructive and poisonous whoever instigates it. It also plays into the hands of the elite. Don't automatically assume that 'everyone' is going to come down on you for mentioning this.

[snapdragon]

I went to a Nick Griffen speech years ago, and he said they would NOT be throwing foreigners out. They would give them repatriation grants which would be 20,000 times more generous than the ones New Labour have given. He said anyone who thinks the BNP should deport all foreigners should leave the party. He also said that they would deport the bad apples and criminals who are foreign as this is our country to pick and choose who lives here, not criminals. It all seems like a good idea to me, but will never happen due to the real hidden agenda.

[anthony65]

I went to a Nick Griffen speech years ago, and he said they would NOT be throwing foreigners out. They would give them repatriation grants which would be 20,000 times more generous than the ones New Labour have given. He said anyone who thinks the BNP should deport all foreigners should leave the party. He also said that they would deport the bad apples and criminals who are foreign as this is our country to pick and choose who lives here, not criminals. It all seems like a good idea to me, but will never happen due to the real hidden agenda.

Watch this and tell me if you trust Nick Griffin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OSzAtxnAJU&feature=related

Here he is telling the audience of white supremacists in the USA in 2000 that the BNP would need to modify its message but would not sell out its ideas and that one day, if they had control of the British media, the British public would demand that they kicked out every last one...

[ibaster]

Is this just your opinion, or do you have some conclusive proof?

It is a logical opinion.

[shearer318]

Watch this and tell me if you trust Nick Griffin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OSzAtxnAJU&feature=related

Here he is telling the audience of white supremacists in the USA in 2000 that the BNP would need to modify its message but would not sell out its ideas and that one day, if they had control of the British media, the British public would demand that they kicked out every last one...

The simple message he was trying to get out there was that the BNP wouldn't censor the media like the current establishment does.

Muslim and UAF protests are surely media gold, yet for some reason they decide not to show them, time after time... If the public saw what really happened nearly every day in Britain, I know that the BNP would be even more supported than it is now.

The kind of censored information most of you miss out on reveals exactly what kind of violence and unrest the BNP want to get Britain away from!

[harry_88]

Watch this and tell me if you trust Nick Griffin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OSzAtxnAJU&feature=related

Here he is telling the audience of white supremacists in the USA in 2000 that the BNP would need to modify its message but would not sell out its ideas and that one day, if they had control of the British media, the British public would demand that they kicked out every last one...

How can any politician be trusted?
Politics is such a dirty business.
At least Nick Griffin has the intention in his heart to help the British public break free from their slavery to the ptb/nwo.
That's why the BNP are under constant attack by ptb via the media, legalisms and yobs.
Plus many more I don't even know about but Nick could tell you.

Some of these attacks are reactionary ie: due to BNP actions.
For example in this thread we have seen the way Muslims react just to the suspicion that the BNP were going to be present on that day in Luton.
The BNP have to be more careful in how they deal with their Muslim neighbours.
A start would be the curtailing of inflammatory comments about Prophet Mohamed which are made without proper comprehension and may thus also lack truth. Best to check such statement out with a Mullah before putting them in print or if that is too distasteful check with the nearest University professor who teaches religious studies.

[wise haven]

I would be suspicious of anyone who exalts themselves as "wise".
wisdom does not have to advertise



"non-natives" ?

where are YOU from? oh 'wise' man

what colour is your hair, what colour your eyes? better not be different from mine or I will run you out of MY land.

The reason behind my username is on record and was never intended to imply a claim to wisdom - in fact quite the opposite.

Non native is simple - Coming from a different geographical location. Meaning someone who has up sticked from their country of birth and come to the UK. Their skin colour is irrelevant as is their religion or culture because when they come to the UK they are expressing a desire to partake of the benefits of UK culture.

When in Rome etc - the fact is that people who do not like or want to integrate into the existing culture shouldn't have come here and always have the choice to leave.

What with the hair colour/eyes crap - Once again you are attempting to make this a race issue when it isn't. This is the constant logical fallacy presented by the bleeding hearts. It is all designed to obfuscate and confuse the valid issues.

I really don't care what someone's colour or religion is - never have, but I draw the line when some group wants to dictate my cultural values and personal freedoms by trying to inflict the culture brought from their home countries on to me.

[wise haven]

Agreed, I also.
In fact it was an Indian who recommended the BNP web-site to me. Prior to that I only knew the lies that I had read in the media.

I first went to the BNP site when I heard of the leaked membership list. Like a lot of people I had been suckered by MSM lies and had avoided looking too closely at them.

I was surprised to find that the BNP has developed, generally, some very worthwhile policies - though I do not unanimously agree with all their ideals.

The BNP are not perfect by a long chalk - but they are one of a small group of parties that could break the LibLabCon stranglehold on British politics - if, I repeat, if enough people wake up and stop listening to MSM propaganda and letting them cloud our judgement and prod us to emotional reactionary fluff.

[teardropexplodes]

I went to a Nick Griffen speech years ago, and he said they would NOT be throwing foreigners out. They would give them repatriation grants which would be 20,000 times more generous than the ones New Labour have given. He said anyone who thinks the BNP should deport all foreigners should leave the party. He also said that they would deport the bad apples and criminals who are foreign as this is our country to pick and choose who lives here, not criminals. It all seems like a good idea to me, but will never happen due to the real hidden agenda.

And you believe anything a politician tells you?
What is it New Labour tells us... ID cards will be voluntary. You believe them?
They promised a referendum on the constitution. Still waiting.
Did Hitler say vote for me and I'll cart all the gypos, slavs, gays, jews etc to concentration camps? I don't think so. But anyone with half a brain knew what that evil rothschild agent was really about -- division, paranoia, chaos, conflict.
I can't believe anyone who reads this site would trust that zionist piece of trash party.
Have you all lost your marbles?

[bendoon]

Today I've just read a story about a mixed race girl who was racially taunted so badly by a white boy .

What about all the thousands of white people who have been murdered, raped and mugged by coloured immigrants ?



Cry me a river :rolleyes: