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gribz
28-08-2009, 04:27 AM
Its probably been mentioned on here many times, but I just read that Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain all died aged 27.
I wondered if this number had any symbolic meaning to it for musicians to die at such age.
socrates
28-08-2009, 06:08 PM
Its probably been mentioned on here many times, but I just read that Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain all died aged 27.
I wondered if this number had any symbolic meaning to it for musicians to die at such age.
No.
zenith82
28-08-2009, 06:10 PM
I'm 27 should I be worried lol. Wasn't aware they all died at the same age, might have some sort of meaning i suppose.
supertzar
28-08-2009, 06:12 PM
No.
Well that settles it then, doesn't it!
socrates
28-08-2009, 06:45 PM
Well that settles it then, doesn't it!
It sure does. :D
Will the last person in this thread turn off the light...... :)
el jefe
28-08-2009, 06:57 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club
supertzar
28-08-2009, 06:59 PM
It sure does. :D
Will the last person in this thread turn off the light...... :)
First it ought to be acknowledged that Hendrix died in most unusual circumstances, which I know you are aware of, soc.
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44630&highlight=hendrix+murdered%3F
There seems to be some funny business with the death of Mr. Mojo Risin', too. Can't forget about Janis Joplin either, also dead at 27.
biblegirl
28-08-2009, 07:00 PM
i'm 27 too :D
hmm i don't know of the symbolism for 27, but i do know there is significance in age 33
timmy
28-08-2009, 07:14 PM
Its probably been mentioned on here many times, but I just read that Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain all died aged 27.
I wondered if this number had any symbolic meaning to it for musicians to die at such age.
Jimi Hendrix was killed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cVb0OWqySE&feature=related
supertzar
28-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Jimi Hendrix was killed.
Yeah, not too many people have drowned themselves in wine in the course of human history.
merlincove
28-08-2009, 07:24 PM
Its probably been mentioned on here many times, but I just read that Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain all died aged 27.
I wondered if this number had any symbolic meaning to it for musicians to die at such age.
Has also been mentioned elsewhere gribz, there is a lot of it linked with media fame.
There was a black guitarist, can't rememebr his name now, much before hendirx, samuel johnson, i think who is said to have sold his soul and died at 27 too - apparently, he sold he was given another finger with which to play the bguitar - many of his riffs still ring beautiful today, and can be heard in a lot of rock tunes.
It is said that when you listen to him playing it sounds like there is more than one guitar, but there was only him playing.
A friend of mine wrote a sci fi book about it some time ago, the dadedada code, Robert Rankin, with a rankinesque twist to the tale :D
supertzar
28-08-2009, 07:29 PM
Has also been mentioned elsewhere gribz, there is a lot of it linked with media fame.
There was a black guitarist, can't rememebr his name now, much before hendirx, samuel johnson, i think who is said to have sold his soul and died at 27 too - apparently, he sold he was given another finger with which to play the bguitar - many of his riffs still ring beautiful today, and can be heard in a lot of rock tunes.
It is said that when you listen to him playing it sounds like there is more than one guitar, but there was only him playing.
A friend of mine wrote a sci fi book about it some time ago, the dadedada code, Robert Rankin, with a rankinesque twist to the tale :D
It's Robert Johnson. Never heard about him having an extra finger, but yes there is a lot of folklore surrounding this great bluesman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AkN-jQ9L4
merlincove
28-08-2009, 07:40 PM
It's Robert Johnson. Never heard about him having an extra finger, but yes there is a lot of folklore surrounding this great bluesman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AkN-jQ9L4
Cheers Super :D
i don't think there is any proof he had an extra finger, just folklore like you say....
apparently he would sometimes turn his back to the audience when playing, so they couldn't see his riffs.
I made it thru 27 fine. Got a tattoo that year.
gribz
29-08-2009, 03:11 AM
Has also been mentioned elsewhere gribz, there is a lot of it linked with media fame.
There was a black guitarist, can't rememebr his name now, much before hendirx, samuel johnson, i think who is said to have sold his soul and died at 27 too - apparently, he sold he was given another finger with which to play the bguitar - many of his riffs still ring beautiful today, and can be heard in a lot of rock tunes.
It is said that when you listen to him playing it sounds like there is more than one guitar, but there was only him playing.
A friend of mine wrote a sci fi book about it some time ago, the dadedada code, Robert Rankin, with a rankinesque twist to the tale :D
Thanks! A sensible reply at last :)
Obviously my point was that plenty believe these 3 were killed and they were all 27.
socrates
29-08-2009, 02:31 PM
Thanks! A sensible reply at last :)
Obviously my point was that plenty believe these 3 were killed and they were all 27.
Ever heard of a thing called coincidence?
Michael Jackson, who various people on here think was killed, was 50.
John Lennon was killed at 40.
Why weren't they killed at 27?
Because of the large number of pop stars, some are bound to die at the same age.
merlincove
29-08-2009, 10:35 PM
Brandon Lee: died aged 28.
Heth Ledger: died aged 28.
********
James Marshal Hendrix: Died aged 27.
Kurt Donald Cobain: Died aged 27.
Janis Joplin: Died aged 27.
Robert Leroy Johnson: Died aged 27.
James Douglas Morrison - jim to his mates: Died aged 27.
Brian Jones (rolling stone): Died aged 27.
Richard James Edwards (Manic st Preachers): Died aged 27.
Loads more linked too here....
http://www.rankopedia.com/ZoneID=3/11213/Greatest-Musician-who-Died-at-Age-27/Step1/15467.htm
Seems more than mere conincidences......
socrates
29-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Brandon Lee: died aged 28.
Heth Ledger: died aged 28.
********
James Marshal Hendrix: Died aged 27.
Kurt Donald Cobain: Died aged 27.
Janis Joplin: Died aged 27.
Robert Leroy Johnson: Died aged 27.
James Douglas Morrison - jim to his mates: Died aged 27.
Brian Jones (rolling stone): Died aged 27.
Richard James Edwards (Manic st Preachers): Died aged 27.
Loads more linked too here....
http://www.rankopedia.com/ZoneID=3/11213/Greatest-Musician-who-Died-at-Age-27/Step1/15467.htm
Seems more than mere conincidences......
That site gives a mere 25 musicians.
How many famous musicians have there been over the last 50 years?
Hundreds.
It's obvious that out of hundreds, some of them will die at the same age.
This site gives the ages of famous people, many of them musicians, who died at 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38 and 39.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_died_in_their_thirties
No conspiracy, just simple coincidences.
We've all got to die at some age.
gribz
30-08-2009, 09:32 AM
Ever heard of a thing called coincidence?
.
Yes, its an illusion!
merlincove
30-08-2009, 01:45 PM
Ever heard of a thing called coincidence?
There is no such thing as coincidence, :D it is a created fiction to keep you from attaining your soul link
:eek:
supertzar
30-08-2009, 01:51 PM
Socrates, do you not make any distinction between being murdered and dying?
socrates
30-08-2009, 05:38 PM
Socrates, do you not make any distinction between being murdered and dying?
Of course. One is exclusively caused by a deliberate act to facilitate a death and the other not necessarily so.
lucyfer1111
31-08-2009, 09:21 AM
They are going to re-examine the death of Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/8229478.stm
Also the Finnish media stated that there has been various speculation about the case because of the multiple deaths of rock musicians at age 27 in the 1970's :eek: .
supertzar
31-08-2009, 06:56 PM
Of course. One is exclusively caused by a deliberate act to facilitate a death and the other not necessarily so.
Then it is a non-sequitor to say
It's obvious that out of hundreds, some of them will die at the same age.
concerning the cases where there seems to be evidence of murder, such as with Hendrix and Brian Jones and Kurdt Cobain. It's not so obvious that a number of top musicians would be murdered at 27, is it?
socrates
31-08-2009, 08:45 PM
It's not so obvious that a number of top musicians would be murdered at 27, is it?
How many have been murded at 27?
Compared to 28, 30, 45 etc?
supertzar
31-08-2009, 11:40 PM
Let's start with those three. What other rock stars have been murdered and at what ages?
socrates
01-09-2009, 12:31 AM
Let's start with those three. What other rock stars have been murdered and at what ages?
Suzanne Tamim, aged 30.
supertzar
01-09-2009, 03:42 AM
Haha. Who? Start with the biggest names. John Lennon 40, Marvin Gaye 45, who else? Peter Tosh 42.
socrates
01-09-2009, 07:15 PM
Haha. Who?
She is a big name in the Middle East:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/5362272/Egyptian-billionaire-sentenced-to-death-for-pop-stars-murder.html
Or is this 'famous pop stars who have died at 27, but only in the West'?
supertzar
01-09-2009, 07:27 PM
Whatever, you like using Suzanne Tamim in your list of world famous murdered rock stars, great. Okay, so that's four. So far we have musician murders at 30, 40, 42 and 45 with only one of them, Lennon, truly qualifying for major rock star status vs. three of the top rockers of their time murdered at 27.
merlincove
01-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Whatever, you like using Suzanne Tamim in your list of world famous murdered rock stars, great. Okay, so that's four. So far we have musician murders at 30, 40, 42 and 45 with only one of them, Lennon, truly qualifying for major rock star status vs. three of the top rockers of their time murdered at 27.
Correction, i count five.... six if you include the rolling stone bloke!
:rolleyes:
James Marshal Hendrix: Died aged 27.
Kurt Donald Cobain: Died aged 27.
Janis Joplin: Died aged 27.
Robert Leroy Johnson: Died aged 27.
James Douglas Morrison - jim to his mates: Died aged 27.
Brian Jones (rolling stone): Died aged 27.
......
All big names in my opinion :D (even tho i couldn't remember one of em lol) But it has been said that Rob Johnson influenced just about everything involving a guitar that came after him :cool:
supertzar
01-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Correction, i count five.... six if you include the rolling stone bloke!
:rolleyes:
All big names in my opinion :D (even tho i couldn't remember one of em lol) But it has been said that Rob Johnson influenced just about everything involving a guitar that came after him :cool:
I'm going slightly off course by specifying rock star murders to make a point about what socrates said. Hendrix was murdered for sure in my opinion. Cobain and Jones were both likely murdered in my opinion as well. Don't know as much about Mr. Mojo Risin's or Janis Joplin's death. Robert Johnson, that's going back a ways.
So, take these three at 27 against all other rock star murders and it appears there don't seem to be a lot of major rock stars actually murdered outside the 27 club. Lennon, Gaye and Tosh are pretty much the biggest names and two of those are a stretch to call rock stars.
i know its wikipedia, but they do include a nice graph showing a spike of rockstar deaths at 27.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club#Musicians_usually_included_in_the_27_Club
i read somewhere that 27 is the average age for young to commit suicide, something to do with them realising that they're grown up and they're proper adults now. i don't remember the details, it does sound pretty sketchy though.
having said that, i'm 27 and still feel like i'm 14 or something.
supertzar
08-09-2009, 05:32 AM
It could be when programming breaks down for a lot of people or it could be the peak of a person's energy.
the first person to ever commit suicide at yellowstone national park was a girl called emily moore. how old was she? 27.:eek:
i don't think she was a world famous rockstar though.:rolleyes:
pipsicle
09-09-2009, 05:37 PM
Bono was being interviewed on Channel 4 some time ago about being in the rock business as a middle-aged man. He said "What you have to remember ias that it's a death cult, and everyone wants you dead at 27".
Bono was being interviewed on Channel 4 some time ago about being in the rock business as a middle-aged man. He said "What you have to remember ias that it's a death cult, and everyone wants you dead at 27".
i fucking hate bono.