Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming

[analog]

Has anyone here ever had a real Astral Experience, as in acctuly there awareness leaving there physical body?.


I have a completly open mind on this subject, however when people talk about Lucid dreaming it seems very similer to an Astral experience, so i puts dought in my mind weather AP is acctuly real.

I have also heard that in order to Astral Project you must first become a good Lucid Dreamer.



what are you thoughts on this?.

[whiterain]

ever found your self drifting off to sleep, then suddenly snap back awake with a jolt like your falling over? thats when you project into a dream then suddenly lose it. loads of these threads around at the moment which is great

not mastered it consciously yet, but have many lucids which ive yet to turn into deeper projections, and some conscious yet uncontrollable projections with the help of plants

[marpat]

Has anyone here ever had a real Astral Experience, as in acctuly there awareness leaving there physical body?.


I have a completly open mind on this subject, however when people talk about Lucid dreaming it seems very similer to an Astral experience, so i puts dought in my mind weather AP is acctuly real.

I have also heard that in order to Astral Project you must first become a good Lucid Dreamer.



what are you thoughts on this?.

There seem to be variations of astral ptrojection which go from being in the physical workd to totally abstract events, such as Dr Dougla Monroes work.

A lot of people tend to avoid confusion be refering to physical world projection as etheric body projection and referring to astral projection for the more subtle planes.

I have had a few lucid dreams but the trick seems to be maintaining the condition

[analog]

ever found your self drifting off to sleep, then suddenly snap back awake with a jolt like your falling over? thats when you project into a dream then suddenly lose it. loads of these threads around at the moment which is great

not mastered it consciously yet, but have many lucids which ive yet to turn into deeper projections, and some conscious yet uncontrollable projections with the help of plants


I have felt that jolt many times, I would realy like to master Astral Projection and Lucid dreaming although it frightens me a bit becuese, you somtimes have to go through sleep paralysis which i have experienced before. :(

[marpat]

I have felt that jolt many times, I would realy like to master Astral Projection and Lucid dreaming although it frightens me a bit becuese, you somtimes have to go through sleep paralysis which i have experienced before. :(

In lucid dreaming you dont go through that paralysis.

[analog]

In lucid dreaming you dont go through that paralysis.

Can you give me some advice on how to induce a lucid dream?.

[presence]

Can you give me some advice on how to induce a lucid dream?.
Look for inconsistencies, logical or physical impossibilities, in your dreams - while you're still dreaming them. Then you know that you're dreaming. Then look at the perceptions in the dream. It gets interesting.

I had a series of lucid dreams earlier this year. i discovered, repeatedly, that I could not distinguish the perceptions in the dreams from the perceptions of waking reality - apart from the aformentioned inconsistencies that had alerted me to the fact that i was dreaming.

The first time I noticed that lucid dream perceptions are essentially the same as those of waking reality, I became frightened at my inability to tell the difference, and the fear woke me up. The last time I had a lucid dream I said to myself 'I know i am now wide awake and perceiving everything with absolute clarity' I would have sworn in court that that was the truth.Then I woke up, very surprised!

Good luck with it.

[suicidal_martyr]

I heard a loud screeching like scream when I first tried to force an O.B.E., I was having a electrical like vibrating all over I can't explain it, really intense but not painful. Then I heard that crap and said F that, so I snapped out of it. Haven't tried it since, will stick to lucid dreaming instead. Oh, analog the easiest way I found to be aware of dream is to just repeat in your mind over and over when you go to sleep "i am going to be aware of my dream", just keep your mind awake as long as you can and keep doing that, eventually you will be aware during the middle of a dream as you have drifted off. If it doesn't work the first time just keep trying. It's a bit hard to look for inconsistencies while in the dream because you would have to be aware in the first place to look for inconsistencies or else why would you think to look at them, maybe if you look for inconsistencies throughout your daily life you will think to do it in a dream. It's easier than most people describe or lengthy books you might read describe. The only thing difficult is remaining lucid once you are. You accidently can forget then and there and wind up going about the dream, I noticed this after waking up that I had forgetten I was lucid. Also one more key thing is excitement. I found that getting excited makes me wake up.

[presence]

Yes, looking for inconsistencies, ie paranormal events, in waking life may alert you to inconsistencies in your dreams.

I found 2 stages of knowing I'm dreaming: 1 - by noticing inconsistencies. 2 - by waking up.

Mystics, masters, sages, saints etc throughout history have said that normal waking reality is a kind of dream from which we need to awaken.

So, as inconsistencies in a dream are a wake-up call to the fact that we are dreaming, so maybe paranormal events in waking reality are a wake-up call to the fact that we are dreaming!

So, noticing paranormal events in waking reality is only the first stage of waking up, ie of becoming like the saints and sages etc., a fully awakened being.

[analog]

please describe in detail your lucid dreaming esperiences im very interested

[suicidal_martyr]

please describe in detail your lucid dreaming esperiences im very interested

I fly, anywhere and everywhere and I treat it like i'm not even in the dream adn I show off to people that I can fly, lol. I am obsessed with flying in dreams, everytime I am aware it's all that I do. One time I part my arms out and was like "I'm peter pan I can fly!" I landed and put my arm out and said I could shoot fireballs out of my hands too but then woke up :mad:

[presence]

please describe in detail your lucid dreaming esperiences im very interested
The details reflect ongoing events in my own life.

I had my first lucid dream decades ago after reading one of Castaneda's books about his Mexican teacher Don Juan. Don Juan had told Castaneda that if he should ever wake up in a dream he should look at his hands - in the dream that is. Then he should look at some particular thing in the dream. Then back at his hands. Then at another item in the dream. And so on. The idea being to remain aware that you are asleep and dreaming and explore ever element of the dream.

At the time, I kept having a recurring dream in which I was being chased down some stairs in total darkness. Quite scarry. One night during this dream I woke up to the fact that I was dreaming and remembered what Don Juan had said. I looked at my hands and then turned around to look at whoever or whatever was chasing me. I immediately woke up and have never dreamt that dream since.

Probably my recurring dream was telling me to face up to what I fear, and I was failing to get the point. Facing it in the lucid dream solved that particular problem in my psyche.

My most recent lucid dreams have all revolved around the concept of, what is reality? and the nature of perception? because that's what proccupies me. My subsequent understandings on that theme I've already posted.

Incidentally, neurophysists say that the activities of the brain during a lucid dream are essentially the same as the actvities of the brain during normal consciousness. That's why the perceptions in the lucid dream seem so real. They are real. Or, alternatively if you can handle it, the perceptions in waking consciousness are as unreal as the perceptions of a lucid dream.

The difference is that we all wake up from a lucid dream, but we don't all wake up from waking consciousness - and generally don't believe those who say they do.

You probably need to read some mystical literature. Or stories of people who have woken up. Merrell Wolf, Pathways Through to Space, describes a 100 day process of unfolding consciousness. Dr Bucke, Cosmic Consciousness, describes his awakening to 'higher consciousness' for want of a better way of putting it.

If you're interested, the right book for you will find you. The two above are pretty old. A contemporary book you might like is, Eckhard Tolle, The Power of Now. Tolle was seriously depressed. He threw himself on the bed and surrendered. Gave up completely. He found himself drawn into a vortex into unconsciousness. In the morning ever item in his room was new! Everything was new! Read the book maybe. I've gone on long enough.

[xpleet]

I'm convinced to properly deal with the reality of lucid dreams we must firmly acknowledge that since dreams are happening on the mental planes, and not really within our minds (although our minds seem to go along), they are as real as the physical realm, with the only difference being that the physical laws don't apply.

We must somehow get this idea out of our minds, that dreams are just shadows of our unconscious and imagination because they are not.

Got a question to ya'll.

Do you believe, generally people have more lucid dreams that they remember, or is it generally the case for a lucid dream to be recalled? We tend to remember only the last of our dreams, in the ending period, aprox the last 2 hours of our sleep, i'd say, except if we wake up from a nightmare in the middle of the night. This means that lucid dreams, if they are at the beginning of our sleep period (where our auto-suggestion and mnemoinic induction would kick in with most probability i'd say), we would in fact forget a lot of lucid dreams.

[presence]

You say that lucid dreams

'are as real as the physical realm, with the only difference being that the physical laws don't apply'

My point about noticing paranormal phenomena in waking consciousness was that what makes them paranormal is that the known laws of physics don't apply!

That puts the lucid dream realm and the physical realm on an equal footing, except, as I've noted already, we all wake up from the lucid dream realm but only some of us wake up from the physical realm.

Why? Because most of us are locked into a fixed reality-paradigm from which we cannot escape. We assume without question that, reality = space/time physical objects governed by physical laws as discovered by science.

Quantum physics proves that paradigm wrong. So do paranormal phenomena.

[tezza]

Has anyone here ever had a real Astral Experience, as in acctuly there awareness leaving there physical body?.


I have a completly open mind on this subject, however when people talk about Lucid dreaming it seems very similer to an Astral experience, so i puts dought in my mind weather AP is acctuly real.

I have also heard that in order to Astral Project you must first become a good Lucid Dreamer.



what are you thoughts on this?.

Lucid dreaming and Astral projection seem similar but are different, Suposedly Astral is your spirit actually leaving your body as a result of your mental state and desire to do so (not an accident in most cases), well focused and trained mind is required. For my experience it takes a more tuned meditation to have any type of Astral effect. Only managed it twice so far, my mind and life is too cluttered at present to return to that level for now.
As for Lucid dreaming you still need a focused and trained mind but the end result is more like a reality that you can create and manipulate at will.
The more you think and try the less results you will get. it just has to flow.
For best results keep practicing with visualising yourself simply moving out of your body and looking back at yourself, then back in your body again, keep repeating and then add variations to this and the more realistic your visualisations and the better you get at them the more easily it will be to slip into a more concious dream state and then the sky is the limit (actally there is no limit). you can visualise flying then it can actually turn into really flying in a dream state, visualizing flying to places you know helps then you will realise you are no longer visualizing, it is just creating in front of you and you are going along for the ride and the detail will become beatifully real.
Creating a habit / daily routine helps alot, Start a journal and write down everything after you wake up, its a bit tedious at first but after a few days you sub concious kick in and helps you remember dreams and jouneys and you will recall them and create them more easily. If you wake up in the middle of the night, instead of going back to sleep, just try visualisations and see where you end up.

The best results ive got with any type of Meditation, Astral projection or Lucid Dream is to keep doing it for a number of days in a row and your mind remembers the path and you can get to the same level much easier and easier with each trip, It's as if your mind can still follow a bit of the trail you left the night before, you will feel the right vibe easier, if you leave it too long between journeys, your mind goes back to its old habits and you will feel like you are getting nowhere.
For me Lucid dreaming is like the CONSTRUCT as in the matrix movie, maybe its like a training ground before we venture into the real universe.

A Dream is real until it ends, The same can be said about life.
Tezza

[xpleet]

You say that lucid dreams

'are as real as the physical realm, with the only difference being that the physical laws don't apply'

My point about noticing paranormal phenomena in waking consciousness was that what makes them paranormal is that the known laws of physics don't apply!

That puts the lucid dream realm and the physical realm on an equal footing, except, as I've noted already, we all wake up from the lucid dream realm but only some of us wake up from the physical realm.

Why? Because most of us are locked into a fixed reality-paradigm from which we cannot escape. We assume without question that, reality = space/time physical objects governed by physical laws as discovered by science.

Quantum physics proves that paradigm wrong. So do paranormal phenomena.

We have to make a harsh discernment.

There's the virtual reality of the atomic matter and there's the virtual-reality within the virtual-reality of atomic matter that we call the mind.
With the mind we are looking through organic looking-glasses, hearing through organic headphones etc.
Hence the mind can distort the virtual-reality of atomic-matters, HOWEVER that does not change the actual virtual relaity of atomic-matters, you see.
Laid on the matress yesterday, observing the sky through my horrizontal-window. There was a clear distinction between a cloudlayer and the open blue sky. So i stared at it, and my mind made it appear as if the sky were the clouds and the clouds were the sky.
However, that did not change anything in the sky, it only changed my perception of it. Quantum physics is talking about subatomic movements as far as I've heard, not about the atomic. We know that our perception does not change the universe, it is in the design of the atoms.

The difference in the virtual-reality of the dream-world is, that perception is EVERYTHING.


I'm currently reading Stephen Laberge's "Exploring the world of LDs", a very nice, scientifically oriented book, the "bible of Lucid Dreams", so I heard.

He describes the holy-grail method he calls MILD (mnemoinic induced lucid dream).
So instead of doing reality checks in life and hoping that this will manifest in a dream, you lay down in your bed and simply resolve that as soon as you're in dreamland, you want to realize that you're dreaming. It has to be focused and as real as any of one's intentions in real life, you have to be serious about it.

Laberge says that with this method, he has come to about 20 LD's per month, instead of just about 5 with all the other techniques. Of course individuals have individual skills, but MILD is about the nature of doing things, which is INTENTION.


Last night I used MILD resolved to consciously eject myself from a dream, in order to have a better memory of it. I ended up waking up and becoming conscious atleast 4 times in that night, which was unusual for me but unfortunately my recall (even right after) was so bad that I just wondered why i would "sleep so bad".
I normally consciously wake up only 2 times maximum.

The point is that MILD works, as focused intention setting is how you do move forward in life.

[geewhizz]

We have to make a harsh discernment.

There's the virtual reality of the atomic matter and there's the virtual-reality within the virtual-reality of atomic matter that we call the mind.
With the mind we are looking through organic looking-glasses, hearing through organic headphones etc.
Hence the mind can distort the virtual-reality of atomic-matters, HOWEVER that does not change the actual virtual relaity of atomic-matters, you see.
Laid on the matress yesterday, observing the sky through my horrizontal-window. There was a clear distinction between a cloudlayer and the open blue sky. So i stared at it, and my mind made it appear as if the sky were the clouds and the clouds were the sky.
However, that did not change anything in the sky, it only changed my perception of it. Quantum physics is talking about subatomic movements as far as I've heard, not about the atomic. We know that our perception does not change the universe, it is in the design of the atoms.

The difference in the virtual-reality of the dream-world is, that perception is EVERYTHING.


I'm currently reading Stephen Laberge's "Exploring the world of LDs", a very nice, scientifically oriented book, the "bible of Lucid Dreams", so I heard.

He describes the holy-grail method he calls MILD (mnemoinic induced lucid dream).
So instead of doing reality checks in life and hoping that this will manifest in a dream, you lay down in your bed and simply resolve that as soon as you're in dreamland, you want to realize that you're dreaming. It has to be focused and as real as any of one's intentions in real life, you have to be serious about it.

Laberge says that with this method, he has come to about 20 LD's per month, instead of just about 5 with all the other techniques. Of course individuals have individual skills, but MILD is about the nature of doing things, which is INTENTION.


Last night I used MILD resolved to consciously eject myself from a dream, in order to have a better memory of it. I ended up waking up and becoming conscious atleast 4 times in that night, which was unusual for me but unfortunately my recall (even right after) was so bad that I just wondered why i would "sleep so bad".
I normally consciously wake up only 2 times maximum.

The point is that MILD works, as focused intention setting is how you do move forward in life.

Perception can alter our Physical Universe, it just takes a hell of a lot longer than in AP/OBE or LD state.

We live in vibrational concrete or the freeze vibration as Icke put it.

[presence]

We have to make a harsh discernment.

There's the virtual reality of the atomic matter and there's the virtual-reality within the virtual-reality of atomic matter that we call the mind.
With the mind we are looking through organic looking-glasses, hearing through organic headphones etc.
Hence the mind can distort the virtual-reality of atomic-matters, HOWEVER that does not change the actual virtual relaity of atomic-matters, you see.
Laid on the matress yesterday, observing the sky through my horrizontal-window. There was a clear distinction between a cloudlayer and the open blue sky. So i stared at it, and my mind made it appear as if the sky were the clouds and the clouds were the sky.
However, that did not change anything in the sky, it only changed my perception of it. Quantum physics is talking about subatomic movements as far as I've heard, not about the atomic. We know that our perception does not change the universe, it is in the design of the atoms.

The difference in the virtual-reality of the dream-world is, that perception is EVERYTHING.


I'm currently reading Stephen Laberge's "Exploring the world of LDs", a very nice, scientifically oriented book, the "bible of Lucid Dreams", so I heard.

He describes the holy-grail method he calls MILD (mnemoinic induced lucid dream).
So instead of doing reality checks in life and hoping that this will manifest in a dream, you lay down in your bed and simply resolve that as soon as you're in dreamland, you want to realize that you're dreaming. It has to be focused and as real as any of one's intentions in real life, you have to be serious about it.

Laberge says that with this method, he has come to about 20 LD's per month, instead of just about 5 with all the other techniques. Of course individuals have individual skills, but MILD is about the nature of doing things, which is INTENTION.


Last night I used MILD resolved to consciously eject myself from a dream, in order to have a better memory of it. I ended up waking up and becoming conscious atleast 4 times in that night, which was unusual for me but unfortunately my recall (even right after) was so bad that I just wondered why i would "sleep so bad".
I normally consciously wake up only 2 times maximum.

The point is that MILD works, as focused intention setting is how you do move forward in life.
I don’t share your assumption of a separation of mind from matter. Neither do I share your assumption that atomic matter is as it were base reality – even though you call it a virtual reality.
Neither do I share your assumption that quantum physics deals with ‘subatomic movement..not the atomic’
The following quotes from
http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid183_gci332247,00.html
define quantum physics as the science of the atomic, and therefore of the whole physical universe,

and as fundamentally contradicting our naive normal reality paradigm:

'Quantum theory is the theoretical basis of modern physics that explains the nature and behavior of matter and energy on the atomic and subatomic level.
• In 1924, Louis de Broglie proposed that there is no fundamental difference in the makeup and behavior of energy and matter; on the atomic and subatomic level either may behave as if made of either particles or waves. This theory became known as the principle of wave-particle duality: elementary particles of both energy and matter behave, depending on the conditions, like either particles or waves.
• In 1927, Werner Heisenberg proposed that precise, simultaneous measurement of two complementary values - such as the position and momentum of a subatomic particle - is impossible. Contrary to the principles of classical physics, their simultaneous measurement is inescapably flawed; the more precisely one value is measured, the more flawed will be the measurement of the other value.
• The Copenhagen Interpretation and the Many-Worlds Theory
• The two major interpretations of quantum theory's implications for the nature of reality are the Copenhagen interpretation and the many-worlds theory. Niels Bohr proposed the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum theory, which asserts that a particle is whatever it is measured to be (for example, a wave or a particle), but that it cannot be assumed to have specific properties, or even to exist, until it is measured. In short, Bohr was saying that objective reality does not exist. This translates to a principle called superposition that claims that while we do not know what the state of any object is, it is actually in all possible states simultaneously, as long as we don't look to check
• The second interpretation of quantum theory is the many-worlds (or multiverse theory. It holds that as soon as a potential exists for any object to be in any state, the universe of that object transmutes into a series of parallel universes equal to the number of possible states in which that the object can exist, with each universe containing a unique single possible state of that object. Furthermore, there is a mechanism for interaction between these universes that somehow permits all states to be accessible in some way and for all possible states to be affected in some manner.
• Although scientists throughout the past century have balked at the implications of quantum theory - Planck and Einstein among them - the theory's principles have repeatedly been supported by experimentation, even when the scientists were trying to disprove them. Quantum theory and Einstein's theory of relativity form the basis for modern physics.'

However, thanks for the book ref. ‘Exploring the World of LDs’ I’ll check it out.

[tone ible]

I had only just recently been awoken to the depth of the subject of AP, and I'd just like to get a few thoughts/responses on my experience.

I had a couple of weeks off of work and took a vacation with a girlfriend (who I split with as a result of the bad holiday away) so, on returning for the second week off of work I became a bit reclusive in an attempt to recharge my batteries, which ultimately worked well. In this reclusive stage I did my research as I usually do (conciousness, metaphysics, truth seeking, Icke, etc..)

However, after many attempts, I was inadvertedly laying down in the morning after waking up too early, and I was locked in the vibrational state (sleep paralysis to some) this lasted around 8 seconds, and in a state of panic I called out to a family member, but there was no volume nor movement to accompany my bodys fear response (just vibrations around my head) I then of course physically woke up and felt my heart pulsating after the euthoric state I had just been in and was half shocked and scared and half totally excited and intruiged.

Although I'd discussed AP with a close friend (he claimed to have projected at will many times and met various interesting people on the astral plane) I still approached Astral Projection with the same theory as Thomas Campbell did (open minded skepticism.)

Well, after discussing my experience with my friend, he came to the conclusion that I could have had a blocked chakra which presented the vibrational state without projection. He also told me that the more the AP related information entered my belief system and the more like minded projectors I conversed and shared experiences with, the better my projections would be and the more prone I would be to go a little further than before on the Astral plane..

The night after, I had a semi lucid dream where I was with friends in my local town, then it all went black and I got nervous and started to fly away as a result of this, then I snapped back to physicality and woke up.

The same day, I attempted to project again and had a lucid about my ex girlfriend and reconciliating with her. The thing is, these dreams werent 100% lucid, they felt just like dreams, and even though I flew in the first dream looking back on it now in hindsight, it wasn't clear at all, it was infact quite vague.. Ie. I wasn't very aware of my state at the time..

Then BANG. The day after I felt my conciousness leave my body and move towards the edge of my bed and try and step out of my bed. But the feeling wasn't too controlable, it felt like I was an astronaut in one of those big shapeships kinda floating and the surrounding energy is in control rather than my conciousness. But it was very VIVID and clear. I can almost feel how it then right now. What brought my travel to the end was that I could feel my concious self in the astral plane trying to LOOK at my body. I was trying to control my movements but it felt like I would fall over off of my bed (lol) I think what brought me to wake up out of the astral state was the fact that in the astral state I invisioned physical eyes to try and remote view back to my body, and as a result of this I 'thought of physicality' which unfortunately brought me back to my body against my ambition to remote view. But it felt like if I kept this work up I could find a successful way to remote view. I just need to know how to control my awareness in the astral a bit better and exempt of physicality which I think was my downfall.

Since that projection, I've been doing a lot of researching Tom Campbell and a lot of my experience I can relate to him, which is helpful with the info entering my believe system, thus hopefully allowing me to gain awareness to channel conciously on to the astral level.

My primary issue is; what is the signifance in seperation between the awareness levels?! Can they be categorised as Lucid, AP, normal dreams, Remote viewing (even though I didn't view my body, I viewed my room VAGUELY in my third experience - floating off of the bed), Is it still Astral Projecting, or would you call the first experiences of flying and with my ex girlfriend as simply lucids with the last experience of trying to step out of bed actually an aware state of my conciousness in the astral plane?

My other issue is, going back to the only time I did fully project (the situation where I got to the edge of my bed and tried to leave my bed and tried to remote view) I didn't have to go into the vibrational stage to get there :S does it vary?! Ie. sometimes you have a vibrational state and it just ends up with sleep paralysis with no projection, then maybe on the other hand you just project without any vibrational experience? I'm intruiged to know, does all of this have to coinscide as one process? or are the processes seperated by variation depending on the diverse amount of scenarios?

I hope my story can shed light and responses would be awfully helpful. In addition to that it does feel like I am naturally progessing at a nice and easy pace in an astral state, which each experience getting broader and broader it feels like I am gaining more and more power in the astral state as my belief system is growing.

Also, since then I have been in a mini vibrational stage and attempted to send a 'white light' to my brain to project, which didn't work and I didn't project successully at all lmao (but the vibrations weren't as strong or intimidating may I add so it was OK.)

[presence]

I had only just recently been awoken to the depth of the subject of AP, and I'd just like to get a few thoughts/responses on my experience.

I had a couple of weeks off of work and took a vacation with a girlfriend (who I split with as a result of the bad holiday away) so, on returning for the second week off of work I became a bit reclusive in an attempt to recharge my batteries, which ultimately worked well. In this reclusive stage I did my research as I usually do (conciousness, metaphysics, truth seeking, Icke, etc..)

However, after many attempts, I was inadvertedly laying down in the morning after waking up too early, and I was locked in the vibrational state (sleep paralysis to some) this lasted around 8 seconds, and in a state of panic I called out to a family member, but there was no volume nor movement to accompany my bodys fear response (just vibrations around my head) I then of course physically woke up and felt my heart pulsating after the euthoric state I had just been in and was half shocked and scared and half totally excited and intruiged.

Although I'd discussed AP with a close friend (he claimed to have projected at will many times and met various interesting people on the astral plane) I still approached Astral Projection with the same theory as Thomas Campbell did (open minded skepticism.)

Well, after discussing my experience with my friend, he came to the conclusion that I could have had a blocked chakra which presented the vibrational state without projection. He also told me that the more the AP related information entered my belief system and the more like minded projectors I conversed and shared experiences with, the better my projections would be and the more prone I would be to go a little further than before on the Astral plane..

The night after, I had a semi lucid dream where I was with friends in my local town, then it all went black and I got nervous and started to fly away as a result of this, then I snapped back to physicality and woke up.

The same day, I attempted to project again and had a lucid about my ex girlfriend and reconciliating with her. The thing is, these dreams werent 100% lucid, they felt just like dreams, and even though I flew in the first dream looking back on it now in hindsight, it wasn't clear at all, it was infact quite vague.. Ie. I wasn't very aware of my state at the time..

Then BANG. The day after I felt my conciousness leave my body and move towards the edge of my bed and try and step out of my bed. But the feeling wasn't too controlable, it felt like I was an astronaut in one of those big shapeships kinda floating and the surrounding energy is in control rather than my conciousness. But it was very VIVID and clear. I can almost feel how it then right now. What brought my travel to the end was that I could feel my concious self in the astral plane trying to LOOK at my body. I was trying to control my movements but it felt like I would fall over off of my bed (lol) I think what brought me to wake up out of the astral state was the fact that in the astral state I invisioned physical eyes to try and remote view back to my body, and as a result of this I 'thought of physicality' which unfortunately brought me back to my body against my ambition to remote view. But it felt like if I kept this work up I could find a successful way to remote view. I just need to know how to control my awareness in the astral a bit better and exempt of physicality which I think was my downfall.

Since that projection, I've been doing a lot of researching Tom Campbell and a lot of my experience I can relate to him, which is helpful with the info entering my believe system, thus hopefully allowing me to gain awareness to channel conciously on to the astral level.

My primary issue is; what is the signifance in seperation between the awareness levels?! Can they be categorised as Lucid, AP, normal dreams, Remote viewing (even though I didn't view my body, I viewed my room VAGUELY in my third experience - floating off of the bed), Is it still Astral Projecting, or would you call the first experiences of flying and with my ex girlfriend as simply lucids with the last experience of trying to step out of bed actually an aware state of my conciousness in the astral plane?

My other issue is, going back to the only time I did fully project (the situation where I got to the edge of my bed and tried to leave my bed and tried to remote view) I didn't have to go into the vibrational stage to get there :S does it vary?! Ie. sometimes you have a vibrational state and it just ends up with sleep paralysis with no projection, then maybe on the other hand you just project without any vibrational experience? I'm intruiged to know, does all of this have to coinscide as one process? or are the processes seperated by variation depending on the diverse amount of scenarios?

I hope my story can shed light and responses would be awfully helpful. In addition to that it does feel like I am naturally progessing at a nice and easy pace in an astral state, which each experience getting broader and broader it feels like I am gaining more and more power in the astral state as my belief system is growing.

Also, since then I have been in a mini vibrational stage and attempted to send a 'white light' to my brain to project, which didn't work and I didn't project successully at all lmao (but the vibrations weren't as strong or intimidating may I add so it was OK.)
An emotional disturbance over unresolved issues can precipitate lucid dreaming. Maybe clear the air with your ex? girlfriend.