View Full Version : People enjoy being Brainwashed
baron von lotsov
27-08-2009, 07:16 PM
This is a firm that is using subliminal sexual images to degrade the minds of children.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209383/Not-sweet-Fathers-outrage-pornographic-candy-wrappers.html
Someone complains and demands to see the manager about it. The Mail prints the story and so far 291 people have respond. Each comment can be rated plus one point or minus one point by anyone reading the comments. So lets look at the worst and best rated comments to see how group psychology works in the brainwashing.
For the top comment we have this mastermind piece by Trev from Kent: 419 more people voted for this than against it!
Would never have noticed, thanks for pointing it out. Now go and get a life.
- Trev, Kent, 27/8/2009 11:30
Now lets contrast and compare to the worst comment brought to you by dunstun of Hereford. 406 more people voted against this than for it, so he goes right to the back of the class. What did he say to create such wrath? Well take a look here:
I would agree with this gentleman. Years ago whilst abroad I read an article where an american firm was fined for selling something like scampi with a very subliminal picture on the front of an orgy between the scampi. Sex sells, and it is used so well done to this chap for spotting it.
- dunstun, hereford, 27/8/2009 11:15
Holy smoke he mentioned that forbidden word 'subliminal'!
chris
27-08-2009, 07:22 PM
Being Brainwashed is quite enjoyable. We never find silence comfortable and enjoy some kind of television/radio or mental stimulation going on, it's not too much difficulty to place a monopoly on these and your set.
As for the errotic sweeties, I've seen more errotic stuff down my nans carehome. However it is a subliminal but is it worth fighting?
supertzar
27-08-2009, 07:24 PM
I have a problem with subliminals, but not these goofy characters. They are overtly enjoying each other and that's fine with me. Adults pretending that sex doesn't exist to their kids stunts their development in my opinion. It's not natural for a child to be made to feel like it is bad to be at all aware that human beings are sexual and that the human body is amazing.
baron von lotsov
27-08-2009, 07:55 PM
I have a problem with subliminals, but not these goofy characters. They are overtly enjoying each other and that's fine with me. Adults pretending that sex doesn't exist to their kids stunts their development in my opinion. It's not natural for a child to be made to feel like it is bad to be at all aware that human beings are sexual and that the human body is amazing.
I think you will find that most parents disagree with you. A child's mind is innocent and the job of the parent is to help it find it's way by setting the highest standards and showing it what is good. Our society has somewhat moved out of the jungle and has achieved great things in the past. Its good to introduce children to the best of what has gone before, not sleazy degrading animalistic kind of behaviour. A child should be given something to aspire to.
You know it was the communists that planned to break the middle class by using sex to an abnormal degree such that people would become dysfunctional. Today we see people demanding that cultural revolution. They are literally building their own prisons, and that cult series in the 60s called The Prisoner reminds me of this. No one knew who number one was; they saw number two as a powerful illuminati figure but could never figure out who was top of that pyramid. In the last episode it was revealed that the real controllers of the prison were the inmates! This is precisely what we have here, and what is more is that just as it is now, the people watching the original series were incredibly miffed to discover the answer to the big question.
supertzar
27-08-2009, 09:08 PM
I don't consider human sexuality sleazy. I am more inclined to think of it as sacred and to frankly treat it as such where my own children are concerned. If my toddler casually touched their sex organs for the pleasure of it (and many parents will tell you that they do indeed do this) and said something about it, I would say something like "The human body is amazing, isn't it." To which she might carelessly reply "Mmhmm." No big deal and no one's sexuality being repressed at that critical age. This to me is healthy.
I myself desired to romantically kiss the girl next door at the age of five. I didn't know about intercourse except for vaguely gleaning the concept from "dirty" jokes at kindergarten, but I knew it was nice to kiss and hug a pretty girl. My parents considered me to be too young for any mention of sexuality at all so I had to pretend in a way to go along with their idea of innocence. Kind of like how I felt obliged to pretend to believe in Santa Claus well after I already knew it was a put-on. This to me is dysfunctional.
baron von lotsov
27-08-2009, 09:20 PM
Children should develop at their own rate. Childhood is essential in order to produce a balanced and civilised adult. The PTB have decided they can take advantage of children and wish to indoctrinate them at an early age. This is why they have sex education for five year olds. Wake up for goodness sake and think it through.
supertzar
27-08-2009, 09:33 PM
I have thought it through and I educate my own at their own pace. I think all parents should take that responsibility. Then there would be no need for sex ed for five year olds. I remember when I asked my mom how I was made. Her response was that my dad put his seed in her. Well, what the hell does that mean? His seed? Like what you put in a garden? Where did he get it? How did he put it in her? All unanswered because I was to befuddled to ask. Sex ed when I was ten or eleven answered far more questions than my parents ever did, unfortunately.
reality man
27-08-2009, 09:54 PM
I think that far too many people in positions of power, i.e. - the media, movies, advertising etc have turned sex into something akin to a circus spectacle. People speak about it these days like it something you need to train for - like an olympic sport.
Where did the love go?
I'll tell you where it went - it disappeared when the "powers that be" decided to turn a NATURAL thing like sex into a spectator sport. They have debased something which was once a sign of love from one to another. Now it has been turned into something perverted and sleazy. It makes me sick to listen to the stupid TV shows slabbering on about different positions, thier mind fetishes and thier experimenting - all of that old tired mind stuff.
The reason why children are being exposed so early in life is simple - they want to take the LOVE out of sex and replace it with mechanical sleaze. When best to do this type of brain-mudding as when you are an innocent child?
whiterain
27-08-2009, 10:30 PM
I don't consider human sexuality sleazy. I am more inclined to think of it as sacred and to frankly treat it as such where my own children are concerned. If my toddler casually touched their sex organs for the pleasure of it (and many parents will tell you that they do indeed do this) and said something about it, I would say something like "The human body is amazing, isn't it." To which she might carelessly reply "Mmhmm." No big deal and no one's sexuality being repressed at that critical age. This to me is healthy.
I myself desired to romantically kiss the girl next door at the age of five. I didn't know about intercourse except for vaguely gleaning the concept from "dirty" jokes at kindergarten, but I knew it was nice to kiss and hug a pretty girl. My parents considered me to be too young for any mention of sexuality at all so I had to pretend in a way to go along with their idea of innocence. Kind of like how I felt obliged to pretend to believe in Santa Claus well after I already knew it was a put-on. This to me is dysfunctional.
i agree theres nothing wrong with kids knowing about sex. the problems come when our sexuality is taken away from us through repression and religion (and disney ;)) then repackaged and sold back to us
baron von lotsov
27-08-2009, 10:55 PM
I think that far too many people in positions of power, i.e. - the media, movies, advertising etc have turned sex into something akin to a circus spectacle. People speak about it these days like it something you need to train for - like an olympic sport.
Where did the love go?
I'll tell you where it went - it disappeared when the "powers that be" decided to turn a NATURAL thing like sex into a spectator sport. They have debased something which was once a sign of love from one to another. Now it has been turned into something perverted and sleazy. It makes me sick to listen to the stupid TV shows slabbering on about different positions, thier mind fetishes and thier experimenting - all of that old tired mind stuff.
The reason why children are being exposed so early in life is simple - they want to take the LOVE out of sex and replace it with mechanical sleaze. When best to do this type of brain-mudding as when you are an innocent child?
That is exactly what is going on and you can trace this back to the Frankfurt School and communist infiltration of Middle America during the period between about 1920 and the 60s, when the school was at the height of its power. They had previously managed to control the working class via unions in industry, but America was mainly middle class, so they had to destroy its adhesion to the traditional values it upheld.
They used sex to do it with and they degraded that to the level of animals. They were originally known as ‘liberals’ due to their belief that tradition was restrictive and ridged and so in order to be free it was necessary to promote homosexuality and that sort of thing. Of course the opposite was true and those who chose freedom were actually choosing to be controlled and manipulated for political reasons.
reality man
27-08-2009, 11:33 PM
That is exactly what is going on and you can trace this back to the Frankfurt School and communist infiltration of Middle America during the period between about 1920 and the 60s, when the school was at the height of its power. They had previously managed to control the working class via unions in industry, but America was mainly middle class, so they had to destroy its adhesion to the traditional values it upheld.
They used sex to do it with and they degraded that to the level of animals. They were originally known as ‘liberals’ due to their belief that tradition was restrictive and ridged and so in order to be free it was necessary to promote homosexuality and that sort of thing. Of course the opposite was true and those who chose freedom were actually choosing to be controlled and manipulated for political reasons.
it gets to me the way these hidden guys are ruining life on our planet - we would live in a utopia if it were not for these shodow b'stards and thier perverted - well - thier perverted EVERYTHING!
Tbh I think it says a lot about about the guy that looked at the sweet packet and saw it like that and shows where his mind is at. I honestly never saw these packets like that and have been past them a thousand times. Even looking now I would never have seen them as sexual...they're fruit ffs. I know it is said to be subliminal but little kids don't really have sex as a primary thing going on for them in the backs of their heads like adults do. I think most kids who are not over puberty wouldn't be corrupted by these images because they don't think like that. They are more likely to see it as a playfight or hugging fruit. I think the designer was probably a bit cheeky.
Children should develop at their own rate. Childhood is essential in order to produce a balanced and civilised adult. The PTB have decided they can take advantage of children and wish to indoctrinate them at an early age. This is why they have sex education for five year olds. Wake up for goodness sake and think it through.
I don't agree with sex education for small children because they learn by example and teaching and like to try things out....like playing mummy and daddy and nurse and doctor etc. They are explorative and of course if you tell small children not to do something they instantly go do it because it is denied them and they are curious little critters. I personally think this is partially why we have such a high teen pregnancy rate here. I'm not for denying information but they need at least some period of innocence.
You know it was the communists that planned to break the middle class by using sex to an abnormal degree such that people would become dysfunctional. Today we see people demanding that cultural revolution. They are literally building their own prisons, and that cult series in the 60s called The Prisoner reminds me of this. No one knew who number one was; they saw number two as a powerful illuminati figure but could never figure out who was top of that pyramid. In the last episode it was revealed that the real controllers of the prison were the inmates! This is precisely what we have here, and what is more is that just as it is now, the people watching the original series were incredibly miffed to discover the answer to the big question.
aha that makes so much sense. thanks for sharing that. It really is the people who keep this hamster wheel turning!
baron von lotsov
28-08-2009, 05:29 PM
aha that makes so much sense. thanks for sharing that. It really is the people who keep this hamster wheel turning!
You’re welcome. I have some background to the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism here, that you might find interesting. The three Youtube links are a three-part documentary on the history of it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1677031/posts
Part 1: The History of Political Correctness - YouTube
Part 2: The History of Political Correctness - YouTube
Part 3: The History of Political Correctness - YouTube
mountain
28-08-2009, 06:03 PM
lololol someone made a thread about this awhile back, same product. I am still trying to figure out who the green dude is, a lima bean?! Who knows but he sure looks a bit frisky :p
What people fail to realise is that subliminals are targeted at the subconscious mind of any person, whether they notice them or not. In fact, the more subtle and less attention given to them makes them more effective it has been discovered.
There seems to be an agenda in regards to sex and our youth and women. Not sure what but its obvious. I watched a Youtube video where someone found the hidden word 'sex' at least 20 times in Disney's Beauty and the Beast movie.
baron von lotsov
29-08-2009, 09:24 PM
lololol someone made a thread about this awhile back, same product. I am still trying to figure out who the green dude is, a lima bean?! Who knows but he sure looks a bit frisky :p
What people fail to realise is that subliminals are targeted at the subconscious mind of any person, whether they notice them or not. In fact, the more subtle and less attention given to them makes them more effective it has been discovered.
There seems to be an agenda in regards to sex and our youth and women. Not sure what but its obvious. I watched a Youtube video where someone found the hidden word 'sex' at least 20 times in Disney's Beauty and the Beast movie.
You are correct. As soon as the mind consciously processes the information the brainwashing power is lost. So it follows that the best way to defend against brainwashing is to know what to look for and then to consciously ask questions about it like asking 'why are they trying to subliminally convince me of this.' You can actually go one step further and condition your own mind to flip into a beta brainwave state as soon as it detects some subliminal attempt, e.g. to build up an association between things like 'mood music' and softly spoken what have you with something hostile.
I'll give you another example I have noticed quite a lot these days and I believe it is a deliberate attempt at subliminal programming. When you see a politically correct picture of one black and one white in a system leaflet take a close look at the shades of their skin. I keep seeing photoshopped pictures to make the black person look whiter and the white person looking darker to such an extent that they appear to have the same colour skin. For example the picture on the front of the latest telephone directory has this Englishman with his face placed strategically in a shadow next to a whitened black woman. See if you can find any more like this, because I keep seeing it these days since I became aware of this subliminal trick.
shoust
29-08-2009, 09:52 PM
Didn't someone on this forum point out the basis of this article weeks ago? I swear, agents are watching us lol :P
netta
29-08-2009, 10:09 PM
I find the concept funny: two fruits mating in order to create a delicious treat for us to eat!
However if people are oversexualized, then they can lose touch with the spiritual. Too much focus on physical gratification only distracts one from other important elements of life and existense. So I am guessing that would be one of the reasons why the over-sexualized, lost in the base chakra, agenda is being pushed. It's all about control.
But I contradict myself because little things like this generally amuse me. Maybe it's only as big a deal as you make it.
danceswithbunnies
29-08-2009, 10:46 PM
This is a firm that is using subliminal sexual images to degrade the minds of children.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209383/Not-sweet-Fathers-outrage-pornographic-candy-wrappers.html
Someone complains and demands to see the manager about it. The Mail prints the story and so far 291 people have respond. Each comment can be rated plus one point or minus one point by anyone reading the comments. So lets look at the worst and best rated comments to see how group psychology works in the brainwashing.
For the top comment we have this mastermind piece by Trev from Kent: 419 more people voted for this than against it!
Now lets contrast and compare to the worst comment brought to you by dunstun of Hereford. 406 more people voted against this than for it, so he goes right to the back of the class. What did he say to create such wrath? Well take a look here:
Holy smoke he mentioned that forbidden word 'subliminal'!
What may actually be going on is that people have increasingly limited attention spans so that a one liner is considered the height of intellectual acumen, because if an argument or response is longer than one line, they lose interest...
baron von lotsov
29-08-2009, 11:42 PM
What may actually be going on is that people have increasingly limited attention spans so that a one liner is considered the height of intellectual acumen, because if an argument or response is longer than one line, they lose interest...
They do indeed and that is another aspect of brainwashing. When you watch the TV, notice how the camera shots change so frequently. I have seen one or two programmes where they change the shot less than once every second, and this is especially notable on young and trendy stuff, exactly where the majority of brainwashing is aimed at. All the news channels also encourage the mind to flip back and forth, and it is this action of flipping mental states that leads the mind into submission.
If you alternate love and hate rapidly then this has that effect and this is why sex is so often linked to violence. In a typical film you have love, flip to someone blowing the head off, then another love scene and back to another murder. The mind can't cope so it gives up and becomes passive and unresponsive. This is why we have such drones rather than people with personalities these days. They have undergone psychological attacks.
danceswithbunnies
31-08-2009, 04:08 PM
They do indeed and that is another aspect of brainwashing. When you watch the TV, notice how the camera shots change so frequently. I have seen one or two programmes where they change the shot less than once every second, and this is especially notable on young and trendy stuff, exactly where the majority of brainwashing is aimed at. All the news channels also encourage the mind to flip back and forth, and it is this action of flipping mental states that leads the mind into submission.
If you alternate love and hate rapidly then this has that effect and this is why sex is so often linked to violence. In a typical film you have love, flip to someone blowing the head off, then another love scene and back to another murder. The mind can't cope so it gives up and becomes passive and unresponsive. This is why we have such drones rather than people with personalities these days. They have undergone psychological attacks.
What you are saying reminds me of those damn car commercials where they flick through pictures rapidly with jarring music..i got to the point where i found TV so irritating that i had it disconnected. There probably are people out there who are hard wired to respond in the perscribed fashion but i am not one of them...i don't know about you, but it got to the point where i could not stand it any more..
baron von lotsov
01-09-2009, 04:42 AM
What you are saying reminds me of those damn car commercials where they flick through pictures rapidly with jarring music..i got to the point where i found TV so irritating that i had it disconnected. There probably are people out there who are hard wired to respond in the perscribed fashion but i am not one of them...i don't know about you, but it got to the point where i could not stand it any more..
I have not had one for the last ten years. As you say, I too found out it was brainwashing me, and so I got rid of it. It's a good thing the Internet is going these days though. I have chatted to all sorts of people on it and in a way it feels like one of those interactive things where you are no longer a passive observer. I mean you can influence it and make the news rather than just receiving it.
ex_anser_ovo
01-09-2009, 05:09 AM
Being brainwashed is fun. It makes everything taste different too.
All depends on who is brainwashing me.
So I like to get brainwashed by as many people as possible in order for my food to explode with virtual flavour.
http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/ekelig/g030.gif
heterophobia
01-09-2009, 05:48 AM
Eveytime I go see a mainstream horror film I notice that parents frequently bring children under the age of 12 sometimes as young as a newborn. These same parents would not take their children to go see a film with a ton of sex and nudity. Apparently graphic violence, albeit stylized is easier to digest than nudity, which is natural and simulated sex.
People have been desensitized to violence, but trained to be uncomfortable around nudity and sex.
Also you can only be brainwashed if you don't realize it. Most people aren't aware that they are being hypontized with subliminals and auto-suggestions on a daily basis. Unlesss someone shook them and told them, but some people would be so far brainwashed they'd find it hard to believe.
uloodara
01-09-2009, 05:54 AM
I'm getting brainwashed right now. ¬_¬
mrindigo
01-09-2009, 05:57 AM
Eveytime I go see a mainstream horror film I notice that parents frequently bring children under the age of 12 sometimes as young as a newborn. These same parents would not take their children to go see a film with a ton of sex and nudity. Apparently graphic violence, albeit stylized is easier to digest than nudity, which is natural and simulated sex.
People have been desensitized to violence, but trained to be uncomfortable around nudity and sex.
Also you can only be brainwashed if you don't realize it. Most people aren't aware that they are being hypontized with subliminals and auto-suggestions on a daily basis. Unlesss someone shook them and told them, but some people would be so far brainwashed they'd find it hard to believe.
I saw that very thing some months ago. I saw a couple going into the Friday the 13'th movie with a baby. I was in awe. I don't know what runs through the mind of someone who brings a baby into such a movie, if anything. The one distances themselves mentally from the construct, the more backwards things seem to be. It's amazing and a bit disturbing at the same time.
baron von lotsov
08-09-2009, 08:28 PM
I saw that very thing some months ago. I saw a couple going into the Friday the 13'th movie with a baby. I was in awe. I don't know what runs through the mind of someone who brings a baby into such a movie, if anything. The one distances themselves mentally from the construct, the more backwards things seem to be. It's amazing and a bit disturbing at the same time.
A baby would not understand it at all and at the most just find it noisy and might get disturbed by all the screams. To anyone else it is pure brainwashing because it is shocking the mind into submission. The response of the mind is to become desensitised as a defence mechanism, and extreme shock can lead to multiple personality disorder. This is a well-known fact so if you see some professor say otherwise they are simply lying to you and no doubt have vested interests.
mrmoney
08-09-2009, 09:10 PM
A lot of people have never NOT been brainwashed, so I can assure you: if they got their minds back, they would never want to go back to being a sheep.
baron von lotsov
09-09-2009, 01:42 PM
A lot of people have never NOT been brainwashed, so I can assure you: if they got their minds back, they would never want to go back to being a sheep.
The education system is dumbed down enough to make sure that will never happen.
scooby doo
11-01-2010, 03:07 AM
I wouldn't say 'people enjoy being brainwashed'. I think most (including myself in ways) don't realize that it is/has been happening to them. Although I am slowly starting to see things in a different light. Always knew the game wasn't straight but see it pretty much everywhere now. (although again prob miss quite a few as well) and that is the bitch of it really isn't it. Hard to be on point all day long. All I can do personally is to try and be aware to the best of my ability. That wee thing inside me though I listen to the most. We all have it but blank it out alot which is sad. :cool:
michael christopher
11-01-2010, 05:01 AM
Wow, you are so hypocritical, Baron. :) You push one of the biggest brainwashing programs in human history. How foolish of you.