Second Credit Crunch ! September !

[radford]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6095203/German-state-to-lend-directly-as-second-credit-crunch-looms.html

The German Government is predicting a Second Credit Crunch crisis in as early as September according to this article.

As the write points out it is "Hard to reconcile this" with the other news coming out about recovery - GDP going up.

The reason is that Banks cant lend and are about to call in bank loans in September and October that they refuse to roll over. Thus shutting down industry.

This starts to resonate with the HALF PAST HUMAN ( web bot project ) belief that the economy will suffer in September leading to a bigger crash in October.

The problem now is that many Governments have already bailed out - and to do so again would shatter any remaining confidence - especially as the media has been spun a lie about a "recovery" taking place. ( See my other two threads on this issue )

A Whistleblower on a Finance site has claimed that CITIBANK in the USA has been secretly loaned a massive amount to keep it afloat by the FED - and that this is likely to leak out soon thus causing a run on the banks in the USA.......

So it looks as if the Recovery is a "cover story" to try and stop the forthcoming financial crash.......

[wakeup2nwo]

Gerald celente has predicted a second crash for months, and guess what, hes always right, when exactly? thats hard to determine even for him with all the surprise stunts the goverment are pulling, but he says its inevitable, and i think it gonna happen before 2010...

[seat139]

Subscriber to HPH myself and their hit rates (at least in the general themes as things and events play out) is pretty good. Gerald Celente also predicts a massive crash and his predictions for future trends are excellent.
Sadly both HPH and Mr. Celente predict that when the crash is coming, the Powers That Be have only one card left to play to ensure control, and thats War.

[sardonicus]

Thanks for the info / link.

[jiffy]

To be honest just reading your history and having the slightest knowledge of economics tells you that there will be peaks and troughs over the next few years.

Some would argue it is designed this way to sucker people into thinking the market has bottomed, thus robbing ALL the peoples of their wealth.

If this is anything like the 30s when there were 4 such events.
The worst part was every-time a trough came it was deeper than the one before:eek:

The large banks are now safe IMHO, it is currency that is at risk. Remember nothing happens over night.

I will be amazed that there isn't war in the next 5 to 10 years.

My reasoning is simple, the Chinese have been very clever. They hold roughly 50% of US debt, but rather than just sitting on that debt hoping the US doesn't scrap or collapse the dollar, they have used that debt as security to buy up US/UK assets (some have said 25% of US, so far)

The (so called) developing countries are starting to hold the (so called) west by the short and curley's.

Some of you I would guess think the former East and developing countries are part of the whole NWO. I don't, you seriously think they will be happy to be the USA lap dog forever:rolleyes:
Ultimate power corrupts ultimately!!!!

[radford]

could therefore explain why North Korea suddenly have started to become "friendly" in order to try and make the "war" happen in Iran.............but the vaccine could crash things on its own - hence ramping that up despite falling Swine Flu ( down to less than 5,000 cases in the UK from over 110,000 a week and the Gov predicted 100,000 a day by now !!!! )

The Elite had two get out plans - Swine Flu vaccine or War. At the moment War looks more likely to work.

Yes Gerald Celente has a good track record as well. There seems to be many financial commentators predicting a double dip or second crash and pointing to early October to mid November as the end of year figures come out. For many companies they will not be able to cover up what has happened.

The current "happy talk" from the media is to try and start from as high a position as possible before the inevitable happens. Makes sense when you think about it.

[jiffy]

could therefore explain why North Korea suddenly have started to become "friendly" in order to try and make the "war" happen in Iran............


I don't see North Korea helping with that one......the cold war hasn't stopped, it merely has had a capitalist face lift.

Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Sudan, Congo. North Korea all allies of Russia/china
all targets for "change you can believe in"

[655321]

I hope there's a run on the bank.

[stockstalker]

This is a bear flag (stock market back in Jan-March):

http://www.trending123.com/patterns/chart/b2d504e0.png

http://investmenthouse.com/ihmedia/SP500.jpeg

Stocks always rebound sharply following a bear flag (March-Present).

After a good rebound, there follows a crash towards the mid-point, or base of the bear flag-------- sometimes as low as the floor (March low).

Don't need an economics degree to figure out there will be a crash-------- just have to observe the stock charts for clues from experience!

Btw, stock patterns like this one------- the bear flag are some of the Illuminati symbolisms used to perform manipulation.

[dolores1]

I posted this over a month ago; get your "legal" currency out of the banks ASAP. The banks will say there has been a "terrorist" attack on their computers and the ATMs will also be shut down.

This will sound reasonable as pictured by their media slaves. They will not say how long it will last and as most people's salarys, and all benefits are paid into banks or Post Offices, so the majority won't have access to this "money". And will panic!

The majority of the population will buy the story until they find the Bank holiday continues.

Hold "Cash" buy tinned and dry goods have access to clean water, candles, a source of heat and grow your own vegetables. Keep your GOLD!

If we know what their plan is and spread the message, we can help cut down panic and as David says, problem, reaction, their solution. Dead people, through violence. Hello? Do I hear the sheeple call for marshal law?


There is less than 4% "cash money" in circulation, the remainder is only computer fiction!

I predicted the banks will have a Bank Holiday 09.09.09 which adds to 9/11?
09 = 09 = 18 = 9
2009 = 11
9.11 - Nuff said?

[d9d9d9]

To be honest just reading your history and having the slightest knowledge of economics tells you that there will be peaks and troughs over the next few years.

Some would argue it is designed this way to sucker people into thinking the market has bottomed, thus robbing ALL the peoples of their wealth.

If this is anything like the 30s when there were 4 such events.
The worst part was every-time a trough came it was deeper than the one before:eek:

The large banks are now safe IMHO, it is currency that is at risk. Remember nothing happens over night.

I will be amazed that there isn't war in the next 5 to 10 years.
...



Great post. And I agree about the war... The conditions are right. It's all designed, ... even on the forums the levels of racial hate and nationalist "pride" are on the rise (stupid and uneducated people are always first to fall in to this trap).
When there's enough gasoline all the "elite" have to do is ...

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9392/match.jpg

[phemohilia]

That's a great picture!!!

[stockstalker]

I posted this over a month ago; get your "legal" currency out of the banks ASAP. The banks will say there has been a "terrorist" attack on their computers and the ATMs will also be shut down.

This will sound reasonable as pictured by their media slaves. They will not say how long it will last and as most people's salarys, and all benefits are paid into banks or Post Offices, so the majority won't have access to this "money". And will panic!

The majority of the population will buy the story until they find the Bank holiday continues.

Hold "Cash" buy tinned and dry goods have access to clean water, candles, a source of heat and grow your own vegetables. Keep your GOLD!

If we know what their plan is and spread the message, we can help cut down panic and as David says, problem, reaction, their solution. Dead people, through violence. Hello? Do I hear the sheeple call for marshal law?


There is less than 4% "cash money" in circulation, the remainder is only computer fiction!

I predicted the banks will have a Bank Holiday 09.09.09 which adds to 9/11?
09 = 09 = 18 = 9
2009 = 11
9.11 - Nuff said?

Excellent insight!
09.09.09 is a date to "fear". Another revelation:
09.09.09 = 9.9.9. = 999 = 666 on its head (horns pointing down = stock market, look out below!).

[dolores1]

Dear D9D9D9,

Love your handle, my birthday is 09.09.09 and Iam D!

Thats why I am also watching this date.

[unusual_suspect]

[QUOTE=dolores1;1226447]

Hold "Cash" buy tinned and dry goods have access to clean water, candles, a source of heat and grow your own vegetables. Keep your GOLD!

QUOTE]

I have noticed ads crop up for companies that buy your gold off you recently.

[rosix]

everyone please for your own sake, SILVER NOT GOLD

buy SILVER

[unusual_suspect]

everyone please for your own sake, SILVER NOT GOLD

buy SILVER

Why silver not gold?

[rodin]

Why silver not gold?

You will see

BTW I am not sure if beginning of Sept will be IT. I will do some charts @ the weekend to illustrate maybe. (I did start a thread to see if anyone was interested in Technical Analysis and it got zero interest.)

[unusual_suspect]

You will see

BTW I am not sure if beginning of Sept will be IT. I will do some charts @ the weekend to illustrate maybe. (I did start a thread to see if anyone was interested in Technical Analysis and it got zero interest.)

Should I start withdrawing my cash now?

[rodin]

Should I start withdrawing my cash now?

Go to goldismoney and kitco for that kind of advice

that reminds me theres a new guy @ GIm called nidor, not sure if he's posted there yet :D

[djpad34]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siGDySyXIrU

google 09.09.09. most results come back to the beatles album release

gary bell had lots to say about beatles on his last 2 shows linking this year to a repeat of 1969 !

also the moon walks !! and jacko dying and a lot of other things i will have to listen again as i listen half asleep in bed with headphones on

some things seem to link up i am sure

[tb303]

Google Tim Rifat on Jeff Rense. For quite a while he's been suggesting that 09/09/09 is the day the Rothschilds need to start WWIII as a ritual according to Albert Pike's Third World War plan.

However, since Tim is an occult psy-lord, he's managed to battle the Rothschilds and foiled their planned overthrow of Iran and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad which means that their stooge Mousavi will not be able to prevent a cobalt 60 counter attack should Israel strike Iran which would involve thousands of martyrs realeasing cobalt 60 all over Rothschild controlled Europe, America and Israel - very nasty!

[motleyhoo]

Why silver not gold?

Gold is highly manipulated, especially by institutions like Goldman Sachs. Go here for some info: http://www.gata.org/

.

[hoffy]

I have some silver and some gold. But not enough ;)

[jimmythebee]

good posts by all
i saw this on another board--the imf can buy gold from the US treasury for 43 dollars an ounce.please check it out-----i stated that gold could drop like a rock if this were true,and i was snubbed hard by the goldbugs on that board.
i'm thinking diversify as much as possible.

[dolores1]

I did't say buy gold, I said don't sell it. I was thinking about monatomic gold that can be produced. LOL

[Ian2day]

Get as far south in the UK as you can before 09/09/09. Just get out of Scotland. I think that is what I recall from 2 or so years ago. Call me wrong on the 10th and I'll be glad.

[unusual_suspect]

Get as far south in the UK as you can before 09/09/09. Just get out of Scotland. I think that is what I recall from 2 or so years ago. Call me wrong on the 10th and I'll be glad.

whay is that? I'm intruigued.

[ben black]

^^ ?

Scotland v Holland?

What's bothering you about 09/09/09 and Scotland?

[decim]

The attack on queen Bee of Holland..?

^^ ?

Scotland v Holland?

What's bothering you about 09/09/09 and Scotland?

[rydeon]

The attack on queen Bee of Holland..?

Given the lack of population in Scotland and the quagmire of problems England faces I'd say it would be get to the North of England or even beyond!

[bendelapidate]

Max Keiser tells it like it is in his weekly "On the Edge" newscast:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CPR5XjKX70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wjnJk0_mNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6EYhoMM2Q

He and Gerald Celente seem to be loan voices who call it the way it is.

[dlb2007]

i have always thought that the economic crash would come in two parts, the link between the twin towers collapse and the economic crash is just too apparent. The collapse of the world trade centre then the collapse of world trade itself. twin towers collapse at the begining of bush's presidency then the economic collapse happens at the end of his presidency. however i think a second collapse in september although would link well with 9.11 and 9.9.9 in symbolism terms i just think its too early, i have been thinking late october.

[655321]

The earth is a finite resource. There is no way the economy is going to grow exponentially with finite resources. The economy will inevitably collapse to a sustainable level of consumption.

[tb303]

The earth is a finite resource.

It'll keep going as long as the sun does.

[655321]

The earth will be here alot longer than we will, but all the ore will be mined and all the oil will be pumped.

[dixie d]

I hope there's a run on the bank.

I’ll start the ball rolling here, maybe we should start a new thread "How To Live Without Money" Let the banks keep their money most of it is only paper shit anyway. It’s the rich that need the money more than the poor, but the rich cannot live without the poorer people and their countries. This is where people need to decide for themselves. The world belongs to everyone and we should all be able to share it and we should all be able to live a decent life.

I have quite a bit of money in the bank but I’m prepared to do without, if all the people stick together then we can turn this around to our advantage. If the banks don’t allow money to flow they will not survive and the rich will not survive, let the bank’s collapse, and let the money lenders go to hell.

I live in Thailand and have noticed many things about how they all have to live, you do not need much food in order to survive, when there is a crash I believe the poorer countries, if they all stand together, will stand a better chance of surviving than the West, you see, they now better how to live off the land. Most of the western countries have been made to be spoon fed, and look at how much food and everyday items the Western civilisation throw away. People in the poorer counties have to live on Peanuts.

I am an Electrician and I will work for nothing if I have to survive, all I would want in return is something I need to keep me alive. I know this sounds extreme but I just want to show how in my opinion we can live without money, which is how I believe God planned it. You see to me MONEY is the route of all Evil.

We all know this CRASH is coming so it’s now time for us all to put our heads together. The RICH cannot survive without the POOR, The richer countries cannot survive without the poorer countries. It’s time for the poorer countries to make a stand, it’s time for the "PEOPLE" to say "NO" it’s time to turn the table. They can kill as many of us as they like, but if we all say no what can they do? It’s time for us all to learn how to look after one another and build a better world for ourselves. They can break our bodies, but they cannot break our spirit.

I’ve started this off so let’s start putting our heads together, it’s going to happen, we know, so how are we going to survive. And I say to the people do not panic, that’s what they want us to do. If we keep our cool we can use this to make the rich think twice about what they are doing.

We don’t need the rich to make a better world, we only need good thinking people.

It's time we the "PEOPLE" started thinking outside the box.

Take care all
Dixie
:)

[redskywalker]

everyone please for your own sake, SILVER NOT GOLD

buy SILVER

absolutely agree. if you have the money buy silver then copper NOT gold

[tb303]

The earth will be here alot longer than we will, but all the ore will be mined and all the oil will be pumped.

Hemp For Victory!

[655321]

Yes!

[dixie d]

Hemp For Victory!

I don't know if you have already seen this, but have a look at this link:-

Brian O'Leary on Free Energy, 12 July (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=178TJujE5oY)

Take care
Dixie
:)

[redskywalker]

I don't know if you have already seen this, but have a look at this link:-

Brian O'Leary on Free Energy, 12 July (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=178TJujE5oY)

Take care
Dixie
:)

its 2:25 am :eek: and that's 2h43mins. :D i'm putting it on it looks good. wheres the caffeine:confused:. thanks for link

[dixie d]

its 2:25 am :eek: and that's 2h43mins. :D i'm putting it on it looks good. wheres the caffeine:confused:. thanks for link

Sorry I'm in a different time zone, it's only 8.48am here. I'd recommend everyone watch that video, it might inspire people to think twice about what's going on.

Take care
Dixie
:)

[redskywalker]

Sorry I'm in a different time zone, it's only 8.48am here. I'd recommend everyone watch that video, it might inspire people to think twice about what's going on.

Take care
Dixie
:)

just finished it, enjoyed muchly ty. :D More whistleblowers needed :D

[dixie d]

just finished it, enjoyed muchly ty. :D More whistleblowers needed :D

Definitely "MORE" whistle-blowers needed, and the more that come along the better. They can't keep killing all of them, because it will only highlight what the BASTARDS are up to. (excuse the language but that's how I've felt for a long time).

Take care all
Dixie
:)

[awakeorasleep]

Am getting the last things I need for my B.O.B and christmas presents over the next week while I still have cash. If anyone needs me I'll be on the survival threads!!

[redpill41]

Hi folks,

I opened a one year fixed interest account with a certain well known UK/European bank exactly a year ago. On maturity the account automatically converts to an instant access account. However, when I called up to remove my funds from this instant access account I was informed that a 2 month delay was now in force on any and all withdrawls!

full link http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=7555&st=0


Is this the match ?:eek:

[radford]

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

This is a FREE daily column on the World Economy by one half of the WEB BOT PROJECT.

Many people are now reading this each day at around 10a.m USA or 3p.m UK time Monday to Saturday.

The banks dont have enough money to cover deposits. So any type of bank run wipes out banks within hours ( Northern Rock in the UK prime example ) and most have to shut their doors.

Therefore, I tend to agree with people that having cash in safes or in precious metals ( Not sure how that will turn into food etc ) is better than leaving it in the banks where it may not exist in the case of any "major event". Last year showed us this. Interest rates are so low that it is not that worthwhile in any case.

September and October are going to be another bumpy ride. But we got through last year !

[radford]

Interesting how this thread has now moved into the BIG BROTHER part of the forum.

For those of you wondering why - this thread has nothing at all to do with BIG BROTHER - MICROCHIPPING or PROBLEM - REACTION - SOLUTION.

It is about a news story to do with the Banks and a discussion on the coming Second Economic Crisis.

It has been a broad discussion ( but not touching on any topic in this part of the forum )

Bizarre !

[redpill41]

about a bank refusing to pay out for 2 mths on instant access accounts!!

Who moved it and why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[clozaril]

I don't know if you have already seen this, but have a look at this link:-

Brian O'Leary on Free Energy, 12 July (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=178TJujE5oY)

Take care
Dixie
:)

thanks a good watch

[geewhizz]

defo 2nd credit crunch starts tomorrow onwards.

[unusual_suspect]

defo 2nd credit crunch starts tomorrow onwards.

What do you think the first sign will be? What are you expecting to happen?

Out of interest where are you based, will it be happening faster in the US?

[radford]

about a bank refusing to pay out for 2 mths on instant access accounts!!

Who moved it and why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I think it must have been moved here by mistake.....

Oh well. When the second crunch happens I will search for this thread and place a link in the actual crunch happening itself thread.

It does seem likely that "something" will happen to the economy in the September - October period.

[bendelapidate]

Oxford likes lizards and they screen for specific tongue movements and clicking sounds being emitted from the throat. The girl in the news article looks way too human.