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freemanpete
27-08-2009, 11:05 AM
http://www.freemanvalley.org/Freeman_Valley/The_Plan.html

Imagine going to a valley and finding a half dozen or more homesteaders who having secured land by scrimping and scraping and having worked together to help build each others dwellings, now co-exist with a high degree of freedom and without losing any existing modern living conveniences. With a central community area consisting of a small bakery, lodge, community areas, logwood cabins, utilities hub, artist vending area and market and what ever else would be required.

These Freeman on the Land would be encouraged to build cabins on their property for rental to visitors and open or operate small shops where they could offer whatever they wished. From fine art to blacksmithed items to candles, or home-grown organic produce whatever the homesteader wished to offer. This would help create not only a vibrant community, but help draw visitors from across the globe who would come to learn about the Freeman on the Land movement and exist freely and self sustainably in the 21st Century. People in this Valley would not only live free, but teach others how to do so as well.

The structures would vary from Monolithic Domes, log cabins, straw bale construction, compact earth adobe like structures, to underground hobbit like homes, treehouses, all forms of alternative construction would be encouraged, so each homestead is unique and awesome. If a good walking trail and board walk were incorporated into the infrastructure connecting the homesteads then an outdoor mall would develop, with the 'shops' being separated by a five minute walk through forest, and each shop a surprise in architecture and individual existence.

They types of people already involved are varied, but are all on the same page when it comes to self sustainability and becoming less dependent on 3rd party influences. We aim to create hydro electricity and harness the wind and sun, in order to free us from the ever increasing costs of being on a unreliable grid. With everyone growing a varied selection of crops, and having a few animals around, supermarket costs should drop considerably.

This Forest can be used for logging as well, and a sustainable logging arrangement can be made where we can log up to 250 cubic meters of any species we like including Rimu, Kaikatea, Puriri, Miro, Kauri, Rata
Large amounts of mature Nikau Palms.

I see a lot of woodworking and some lovely Rimu tables and chairs. I also see some very creative people being very creative and creating here a wonderful place of creativity.

This valley would develop into an eclectic collection of artists, craftsmen, teachers, writers, and others desiring a more laid-back and relaxed living environment, each living in a unique and inspiring structure. If every resident also was free to pursue individual artistic endeavours, and they had cabins to be rented, the Valley would become a destination vacation spot.

djhooker
27-08-2009, 01:50 PM
can i come? more and more i'm thinking of moving to NZ....

freemanpete
28-08-2009, 01:01 AM
This project is open to more parties, but a little more than "Can I come" would be needed to answer that question.
We are building this from scratch. There are no properties on this land, it would have to be developed.

Cheers:)

freemanpete
30-08-2009, 10:32 AM
We would consider a shares option and or a lifetime membership for camping and cabins for an investment.
We are planning to build at least a half dozen tree houses and cabins, with a lodge/tavern as well as a small camping area.
We are still raising money to buy this land, and are only about NZ$35K short of securing it, which is GB£ 14,700. Not a lot really.
The entire land costs NZ$185,000 for 191 acres or just £77,800
We have just enough to get a 50% mortgage. Which will cost us NZ$140 per week to service or £59.
The wood we can harvest will in the next 2 to 3 years pay off all debt on the property and will enable the people building a future there an easier start in life and one that will be more rewarding than one slaved to fictional job, earning fictional fiat currencies.
Once the land has become debt free, Allodial Title can be claimed and the ball game goes up a notch.
We have an awesome chance to secure a piece of paradise and you I guess have a choice as well.
We are miles away in New Zealand. We have the most awesome beaches and fishing and hunting. Forests that you only see in movies, and one of those we can buy and occupy, look after and live in.

Anyone want to secure a Cabin or Camping site for holidays?
Anyone want to jump in and become a Land Trust Member?
Anyone got any ideas what a camping for life option is worth?
And for that matter what a Cabin is worth and how many days or weeks per year do you think such a 'thing' is worth?

We need a minimum of 35KNZ of 14KGBP
We have a lifetime to enjoy this land. What is a piece of that worth?
Your own Private Treehouse, that will always be there, or that lovely spot by the river, under the big Kauri where you can park your caravan or pitch your tent.

We are open to offers.

Peace eh?

dolores1
30-08-2009, 05:27 PM
Won't the Queen or the Vatican still own the land?

freemanpete
30-08-2009, 10:11 PM
The Queen?
Which Queen?
Queen Elizabeth II Queen of England?
Her Majesty The Queen in Right of New Zealand?
The Crown?

The Vatican? Well, that is a good question, but one I have never had to answer.
The Vatican is rife in Europe, and has been claiming lands for 2000 years.
They haven't been here that long, and not as a Catholic entity, like in Europe.
I don't think the Pope has much to say down here, however, if you have some info you wish to share with us all here in NZ as to who owns what, we would be grateful.

The Title is FEE SIMPLE. Which is yes a glorified tenant.
However, if you do some research into LAND TITLES here in NZ, you will see there are actually many different types of title, from CROWN, EUROPEAN, MAORI and some land is still TITLE FREE.
Different to say England for example.

Cheers

freemanpete
22-09-2009, 06:39 AM
Meanwhile in the land of Nog, our offer has been accepted and we are in negotiation with some BANKSTERS to get the rest of the funds to purchase this land. 191 acres for NZ$185,000 or £81,000.
Here is a small video of some streams and small waterfalls on the property.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uBaRagjOEs

girlgye
22-09-2009, 01:38 PM
I'm sure you don't need to go to banks to raise the capital you need. I mean what is the point in that?

Have you got a plan on how you are going to get the ALLOIDIAL TITLE as i'm sure you are aware once you MORTGAGE you contract with the Queens title.

I'm looking closely at what you are doing here but I don't think you have thought this through in terms of remedy.

freemanpete
22-09-2009, 08:48 PM
I am interested as to how you would find remedy in a country that the CROWN has no claim to.
We have the blessing from local Maori, but as they have discoveed as well, the illegal CROWN tries it on no matter what.
I was considering asking the vendor for a BILL and A4V. And we may still do that or not as the case may be.

However, I would be interested as to your opinion and advice.

girlgye
22-09-2009, 08:59 PM
yes my friend i learned that from Mark McMurtie. What a guy!:mad:

And I quote him "yi she facking comes to oz and says she's the facking queen of oz and i'll facking av on lien straight away. when she came she came as facking queen of england mate'.

Well yoos are all on the ucc of admiralty i guess you must know that. however, the ucc of admiralty is just another long long ruse to complicate our lives and prevent us from really getting on with what it is we need to get on with.

YOu may find that should you go down the route you are planning and being on open land that armed police come to move you on. They can call martial law for one night. I'm sorry but that is what we consider here. However, if it is maori land and they are giving it to you what the heck right as i believe they negotiated all the contracts in winning a portion of their land back. If you don't need to pay any taxes. I can think of a few ukers who might join u myself included.

Where I was up to was buy the land outright then they can't come in and force you off. Claim alloidial title to the powers that be and transfer the contract over to that.

I miss the blue marlin and the freshness of new zealand food. I live on an island too and the food isn't good enough to feed to a rat. None of it is ever fresh - ever.