What is up with Vice magazine?!

[venusinpisces]

Has anyone else been paying attention to Vice Magazine and their creepy obsession with "tween sexuality"? Just this week I have noticed three separate references to the sexiness of preteens and pubescent teenagers. Earlier this week a photographer followed around some junior high kids, unbeknownst to them, and took pictures of them messing around at an amusement park.:( Isn't that illegal?
Today's article is called "Preteen Afgani brides are all right with me".
http://www.vbs.tv/blog/preteen-afghani-brides-are-just-all-right-with-me
This makes me so sad that I really don't know what to say. Why are people not upset about this? The comments section is full of people laughing and making jokes.:confused: Are people really that desensitized? Here is the text:
It’s a known fact that girls mature faster than their boyier counterparts, so what’s the big deal with pairing up a winsome little pre-teen with a swarthy, middle-aged Afghan man? For starters it’s a much better way of settling bets than giving up a year’s crops and trying to convince an Afghan judge that your wife starved to death from refusing to have sex with you instead of from starvation. It’s also way easier to deal with an autistic child or two from the groom’s aging sperm than a Down’s baby from some 35-year-old crone’s wizened, prunelike ovaries, and on top of that, even if your prepubescent bride refuses to get pregnant right after her nuptials, you can always starve her to death until her prepubescent eggs learn their lesson.

All right, look, we’re not saying it’s “cool” or “in” to deny food to the 10-year-old sex slave you bought off a desperate farmer and are somehow legally allowed to rape at your leisure, we just think all the haters and naysayers need to step off. Europeans used to do this shit all the time in the Middle Ages and just look at how their society turned out. Pretty danged awesome is how. Besides I’m sure “If she doesn’t fall down when you hit her with your cap, she’s old enough to marry,” probably makes far more sense to your average rural Afghan than some shit involving grass and fields and playing ball. In any case,

Hey, how great would it be if they hired one of these guys to play their daughters child wedding. Afghani child-sex hat trick!

[flereous]

Has anyone else been paying attention to Vice Magazine and their creepy obsession with "tween sexuality"? Just this week I have noticed three separate references to the sexiness of preteens and pubescent teenagers. Earlier this week a photographer followed around some junior high kids, unbeknownst to them, and took pictures of them messing around at an amusement park.:( Isn't that illegal?
Today's article is called "Preteen Afgani brides are all right with me".
http://www.vbs.tv/blog/preteen-afghani-brides-are-just-all-right-with-me
This makes me so sad that I really don't know what to say. Why are people not upset about this? The comments section is full of people laughing and making jokes.:confused: Are people really that desensitized? Here is the text:
It’s a known fact that girls mature faster than their boyier counterparts, so what’s the big deal with pairing up a winsome little pre-teen with a swarthy, middle-aged Afghan man? For starters it’s a much better way of settling bets than giving up a year’s crops and trying to convince an Afghan judge that your wife starved to death from refusing to have sex with you instead of from starvation. It’s also way easier to deal with an autistic child or two from the groom’s aging sperm than a Down’s baby from some 35-year-old crone’s wizened, prunelike ovaries, and on top of that, even if your prepubescent bride refuses to get pregnant right after her nuptials, you can always starve her to death until her prepubescent eggs learn their lesson.

All right, look, we’re not saying it’s “cool” or “in” to deny food to the 10-year-old sex slave you bought off a desperate farmer and are somehow legally allowed to rape at your leisure, we just think all the haters and naysayers need to step off. Europeans used to do this shit all the time in the Middle Ages and just look at how their society turned out. Pretty danged awesome is how. Besides I’m sure “If she doesn’t fall down when you hit her with your cap, she’s old enough to marry,” probably makes far more sense to your average rural Afghan than some shit involving grass and fields and playing ball. In any case,

Hey, how great would it be if they hired one of these guys to play their daughters child wedding. Afghani child-sex hat trick!

Ehhh its just a whatever subject. Who cares what they focus on?

[glacidtek]

I'm not sure, but you may not be getting the tongue in cheek style Vice is presented in......
....or they use this style as their cover for whatever their agenda is???

I have picked up Vice a few times, it can be a good read, if you accept the lowest common denomenator kindof humor.... light relief?

But, there have been a few times it has been way too close to the knuckle for me.... the 'Special Issue' in particular focussed, from memory on disabled people - I cannot remember the exact content, but it made me feel uncomfortable, as it all seemed to be a bit of 'laugh at the spastics..... look how beautiful we are in comparrison'.

Another point - Vice is just an advertisment feature for their advertisers.... AmericanApparrell, Fly etc...... trendy, overpriced, sweatshop made crap!

[venusinpisces]

Glacidtek, I am well aware of Vice's tongue-in-cheek sense of humor. I think you are right that it is actually just a mask for a deeper belief system. The problem with being ironic about everything is that nothing has any meaning after you are done trashing it, tongue-in-cheek style. Vice is like everything bad about the 60s, most specifically in the area of hedonistic drug use and superficial sexuality, but without any of the good parts, like the mistrust of materialism, the thriving musical culture, or the commitment to a non-hierarchical society. Vice has recently been publishing articles on "the merits of war" and placing riot cops in the Dos section. Here's an article that their founder wrote for the American Conservative:

Hip to Be Square

It’s geting cooler to be conservative.

By Gavin McInnes

If you ask the average American Conservative subscriber about the kids today, he will probably put down his cigar and complain, “They’re a bunch of knee-jerk liberals still brainwashed by the communist propaganda that worked so well on their parents. They’re against invading Iraq because ‘all war is bad.’ They’re against Israel because when it comes to light skin versus dark skin, the latter is always right, and they’re pro-immigration for exactly the same reasons.” I’d like to argue, but he’s right.

I should know. I run a $10 million corporation called VICE that has been deep inside the heads of 18-30s for the past 10 years. According to the Cassandra Report (a trend-spotting “cool hunter” that charges corporations tens of thousands of dollars to tell them what’s hip), our magazine is the number one read for women aged 19-24 and for men aged 25-30. That’s better than Maxim, Jane, or even the New Yorker. Since the Cassandra Report was made public, our magazine has branched out into retail (stores in Toronto, Los Angeles, and New York), film (four in production including director Spike Jonze’s next picture), and TV (on Showtime). We are a successful company that has made its money recognizing cool, and the one thing that has been painfully clear to us over the years is that it is not cool to be conservative. In fact, the majority of our readership (white, straight, middle-class, American) is only totally positive about one thing: being white, straight, middle-class, and American is wack—or, at least, it was wack.

Call me a blind optimist, but I see a light at the end of the anti-American tunnel, a new trend of young people tired of being lied to for the sake of the “greater good.” The New York Times dubbed them “Hipublicans.” Demographics expert Michael Adams labels them “Social Hedonists,” and when our magazine did a feature on them we called them “The New Conservatives.” We did the piece because it became impossible to ignore a difference in the reactions to some of our more right-wing reporting. A new group was emerging, and the vitriolic “You dudes are all Nazis” letters were being replaced by ones saying “You dudes are finally telling the truth.”

Five years ago, we did a two-page spread on how Project USA’s Craig

Nelson was brave enough to take on America’s seriously damaged immigration policies. (We are immigrants ourselves and were therefore not the least bit afraid of being blackballed as “anti-immigrant.”) The responses were hysterical. Formerly loyal readers called for boycotts. They annoyed our advertisers with silly rhetoric and called us racists. Needless to say, we were shocked. Like Toby Young in How to Lose Friends and Alienate People or Peter Brimelow in Alien Nation, we were new immigrants who couldn’t understand why Americans were so determined to favor PC posturing over simple facts. Immigration is out of hand, and it’s only going to get worse. Where were the young conservatives to come to our defense? Was the dumb community in control of the entire country?

Two years later, we ran an article on an artist who painted women with incredibly large rear ends. Gay men and straight women found the depictions revolting. Straight men loved it. In the article, the writer went so far as to blame the heavy concentration of gays in the magazine world for brainwashing women into thinking men don’t want them to be at least a little bit porky. He talked about how men bought more hair products than women last year and how heavy grooming like hair dying, chest waxing, and even eyebrow plucking have become de rigueur for straight men. He claimed the gay community had “recreated straights in their own image.” Predictably, our readers were outraged. But something was different this time. On our Web site’s message boards, advocates of the Right started to appear. For every three people who called the article homophobic, there was at least one saying, “What about the part where it’s true? Isn’t that worth something?”—a comment that beautifully sums up the difference between liberals (equality first, truth last) and conservatives (truth first, everything else second).

It was as though Bruce-Banner conservatives had been prodded for so long they were starting to get very angry. And you don’t want to see them when they’re angry. The final straw was an article we ran a few months ago called “The Merits of War.” It featured The American Conservative’s executive editor Scott McConnell, Coloring the News author Bill McGowan, and an incredibly drunk skateboarder named Throatie. Scott was against, Bill was pro, and the irreverent skateboarder held our readers’ MTV attention span for five pages of political discourse. The reaction was amazing. Of course there were the typical anti-American brats calling Bill and Scott “stupid white men” and uneducated academics raving about the lack of liberals in the debate, but, more than ever, there were young people responding with favor to a predominantly right-wing discussion. They lashed out at our liberal readers, “What’s with all the peace and love crap? You sound like a bunch of pathetic hippies.”

This wasn’t a group of already established conservative kids making a cameo on our Web site and our magazine’s letters page just to bash liberals. These were a new group of kids sick of how “intellectually lazy” (to quote the Hipublicans) the Left had become. They weren’t necessarily for invading Iraq. They just wanted to discuss the pros and cons in a rational and calm forum, without the liberal hyperbole of their peers. I felt like Dr. Frankenstein—“It’s alive! IT’S ALIVE!”

And it wasn’t just VICE’s readership. Suddenly it had become fashionable to link liberalism with weakness and conservatism with honesty. Underground film iconoclast Vincent Gallo (“Buffalo 66,” “Palookaville,” “Goodfellas”) is now quoting Nixon and Reagan as if they were Wordsworth and Yeats. Fashion photographer Terry Richardson (Gucci, Sisley, Levi’s) is showing up at conservative book launches and publicly trashing Clinton. Even high-school students are getting in on the act, like the southern Californian artist collective called Sofia that made t-shirts and panties with the illegal-immigrant-crossing logo on them.

You wouldn’t have seen anything like this five years ago, but now it seems that the reality of the boomers’ liberalism is slowly starting to affect the livelihood of Generation X. The joy of mass immigration is easy to talk about when you live in the suburbs and benefit from cheap housecleaning, but when you are going to schools that are 50 percent Spanish and watching your education slip through your fingers, you tend to be a little more pragmatic. The same goes for affirmative action. Who was laughing the loudest when Jayson Blair was exposed? The journalism students who were forced to intern for us because they couldn’t get paying jobs in the mainstream press.

These kids, the New Conservatives, don’t have the luxury of idealism that even the youth of the 1980s had. Due to the overwhelming glut of information on the Internet and an unprecedented barrage of marketing, these young people are more aware and more cynical than any generation that came before. Within this group, more and more are embracing conservatism. They are admittedly few—I would estimate that only 12 percent of our readers would dare call themselves conservatives—but that is at least twice what it was five years ago. Finally, the dumb community’s days are numbered. They are slowly but surely being replaced with a new breed of kid that isn’t afraid to embrace conservatism. I’m not saying I had anything to do with this newborn counterculture, but I do have this strange compulsion to start handing out cigars to all my friends. ______________

[skyver]

No, you are right (OP) to be disgusted with vice. Look, they are blatantly boasting of being "in the minds" of 18-30yr olds, in other words they can sway thought. It is just one off many avenues that the elite controlled media use to change peoples views. I know people will say "if people are stupid enough to follow it..." but remember not everyone is as clued about about whats going on & how sinister it is.