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is this reality
25-08-2009, 12:30 AM
I ask only this, how loooooooooonnnggggg is the talking, the watching, the debating, the questioning, the moaning, and the wondering going to last till the human species STOPS RIGHT NOW and FIGHTS for it's freedom to live uncontrolled and dictated to by any other.

645 Members of Parliament
145,000 Policemen/women
68,000,000 humans in the UK (obviously not all can physically fight)

How long people? How long.......?

eternal_spirit
25-08-2009, 12:39 AM
Mass rebellion there are many reasons why it will never happen.

First someone needs to convince everyone else they have a better system than the current one ready to take it's place, but how can you prove to them it would be a better system? On paper? and in practice?

And how many deaths sufferings (possibly including many innocents) would have to happen to get this new better system in place? That's the major question people would want answers too.

And would things be worse off in the short term and even in the long term? Or better? The transition peroid could be difficult.

lady_oblivion
25-08-2009, 12:42 AM
funnilly enough i had this conversation with my friend the other night(yes we were very drunk but still), so many people in this country if we all just stood up at the same time and said right enough of this shyte something woud get done, but alas its never going to hapen as people are quite content to ignore(well oneof the many reasons).

Another drunken convo was last news years eve and how we going to plan a cou as it got to politics and the state of the country and we were all pissed off with it, realised it was a bit to late to start then so maybe next year LOL.

eternal_spirit
25-08-2009, 12:52 AM
Everyone goes on strike? And mass demonstrations? Draw all money out banks? The system may grind to a halt? Then we demand what we want from the Government!

I was half way up for this until I realised I was in a miniscule minority of the population. Some talk about it, less are willing to do it!

This will sound like a defeatist attitude (but maybe closer to reality) unfotunately:(

The fear and consequences of ensuing chaos is what stops people from trying to change the system.

An anarchist revolution to over throw the system? This usually only happens when people have no food or little freedom. And an even worse system can be the product of revolution, look at the Bolshevik communists for an example.

Some young people are uneducated and gullible and don't understand the consequences of such actions and live in a fantasy world (with revolutionary characters out of books or in the movies who are glamorised and their "real" actions and the death and blood ect are often hushed down)

Older people especially those with children - last thing they want is a bloody revolution (because they know better than the young ones who would consider or take part in a revolution)
I am just stating reality.

If everyone got paid the same wages, they could bring in new laws Tomorrow to do this on a national basis or even international.

Please someone tell me I'm chicken or fearmongering by giving another better appliable solution...

lightgiver
25-08-2009, 12:56 AM
People cannot even get on together on this forum,and that is just a small amount,it aint never going to happen in a wider context,sorry to say.

I would be surprised if it did,its all down to a personnel revolution,IMHO.

is this reality
25-08-2009, 01:03 AM
I ask only this, how loooooooooonnnggggg is the talking, the watching, the debating, the questioning, the moaning, and the wondering going to last till the human species STOPS RIGHT NOW and FIGHTS for it's freedom to live uncontrolled and dictated to by any other.

645 Members of Parliament
145,000 Policemen/women
68,000,000 humans in the UK (obviously not all can physically fight)

How long people? How long.......?

Question "excuse the pun"; how many of the 68,000,000 tonight sat infront of the tel-lie-vision and got spoon fed what to buy,what to do,where to go and what to believe just like they do every night of their controlled lives?

lightgiver
25-08-2009, 01:10 AM
Question "excuse the pun"; how many of the 68,000,000 tonight sat infront of the tel-lie-vision and got spoon fed what to buy,what to do,where to go and what to believe just like they do every night of their controlled lives?

Thats correct,millions,and in winter it goes up especially in blighty;)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9366/brainwash.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/brainwash.jpg/)

avoid these PROGRAMMES .:eek:

and watch or listen more of these,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocRxVt9jaF8

is this reality
25-08-2009, 01:47 AM
I ask only this, how loooooooooonnnggggg is the talking, the watching, the debating, the questioning, the moaning, and the wondering going to last till the human species STOPS RIGHT NOW and FIGHTS for it's freedom to live uncontrolled and dictated to by any other.

645 Members of Parliament
145,000 Policemen/women
68,000,000 humans in the UK (obviously not all can physically fight)

How long people? How long.......?


I'm not disrespecting other's on how they believe the way to go but leaflets,flyers,dvd's and meet-ups with coffee and biscuits isn't gonna cut it; I dont think so.

I have to ask what do you want to happen?

Answering "change!" doesn't mean shit.

Do you think (in the UK) the dictatorship (labour,conserves,liberals or whoever the sheeple assume are in their best interests at the time) are going to suddenly stop right in their tracks, hold their hands up and publically announce

"people, we've been greedy,selfish and have never given a fu.k about any of you all this time, but as a few of you have made some lovely leaflets and dvd's showing us to be a bunch of wankers, we're all gonna step down and let you lot dictate how to live from now on"

Are they fu.k!

If your really,really,really lucky you might get asked to appear on Good Morning, put some dumbmotherfuck..g make up on and answer some already scripted questions for 5 mins "look mum I'm on TEL-LIE-VISION:eek:" and then thankyou very much you can fu.k off now.

What is leaflets,dvds etc really going to achieve?

The mindset of the masses is to work all hours "choice?", buy useless shit in their hometown and watch mindless bolloc.s on the tv every spare waking hour.

P.S. and lap up whatever the newsreader tells them, I gotta chuckle, fuc.ing sheep.

dawnismygoddess
25-08-2009, 02:23 AM
Q: How do you fight gradualism?

A: You can't


Why do you think the Fabians adopted the turtle as one of their symbols?

is this reality
25-08-2009, 11:36 AM
Q: How do you fight gradualism?

A: You can't


Why do you think the Fabians adopted the turtle as one of their symbols?

Take down the TEL-LIE-VISION networks and keep them down (off the air) and maybe then the masses of sheeple would wake up a faster instead of vegetating on their fat behinds. People's minds generally switch into a trance like state infront of the dammned thing.

No tv whatsoever; can you imagine the uproar then? Those poor,poor sheeple............

dawnismygoddess
25-08-2009, 11:52 AM
Yes, throw the I.V. out the window.

I have never had a T.V., never, ever, ever, ever.

darreninnz
25-08-2009, 01:58 PM
It's never going to happen!!

In order for us to win, we have to be the majority and unfortunately the ptb have done an amazing job so far, that's why most people are asleep and will always continue to be asleep.

I've mentioned this before on previous posts but here goes again, what we really need is for all the dumb asses that are still asleep to take the swine flu vaccine, hopefully they'll all die and only leave people who know what is really going on to take the fight to the ptb.

No leaflets, dvd, website forum etc will ever wake anyone up, imo you can only wake up when its time for you to wake up.

On the subject of waking up, i'm not sure about anyone else but i dont feel that at any point of my life i woke up. I've always been awake, ever since i was a young lad i had a very strong feeling that something wasn't right with this world, with this feeling came hours of studying and here i am.

All we can hope for is some massive spiritual awakening, ( hopefully 2012 will be it ) but i can guarantee that they'll still be shitloads of people who still cant wake up.